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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Chech twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. Lazar Lazar, well, everybody nailed it.

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Speaker 1: He joined us always buying our bark. Here is Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barr. Band is back together? Page The

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Speaker 1: band is rolling now the band's been back together. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's rolling. What is this? Six? Seven? Six or seven? Seven?

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Speaker 1: Six or seven? Here? Like we should probably know that

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Speaker 1: it's we're getting enough enough to count? Is seven? Seven?

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Speaker 1: All right? Like a Jacoby versette seven? Just Kobe Jake

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Speaker 1: Bailey seven, Jake Bailey seven, Trott Nix and seven. That's

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Speaker 1: a good one, Trott Jalen Brown. Of course was it

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Speaker 1: was Kenny Anderson seven? Am? I am? I imagining that

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Speaker 1: because I loved Kenny Anderson as a kid. I thought

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Speaker 1: thought he was was an MVP. He was seven? There

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Speaker 1: you go, all right, Kenny Anderson. You know, back when

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Speaker 1: Twine right obviously right seven was Kenny Anderson. So one

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Speaker 1: had to pick one or the other two. All right,

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Speaker 1: Evan Lazarre, Alex Barth, Patriots Cash twenty two pod Come

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Speaker 1: in your way. A new intro this time. We just

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Speaker 1: jumped right into it. Not my usual usual tea up.

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Speaker 1: So I mean I almost feel like, not that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we should start every show like that. It was a

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Speaker 1: good stick. So here's where I want to start today,

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Speaker 1: coming off the bye week. I do We're definitely gonna

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Speaker 1: preview the Jets. We're gonna get into that and in

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Speaker 1: I do want to talk about Vikings Bills because that

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Speaker 1: has such a relevant game to the Patriots with both

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. But here's where I want to start coming

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Speaker 1: my take was unoriginal, but I'm gonna give it anyways.

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Speaker 1: So here's the question of the day on the show.

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Speaker 1: What's the one thing you'd like to see the Patriots

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Speaker 1: it could be something very very specific specific. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be one way or the other. But if

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Speaker 1: you want to call in at eight five five Pats

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Speaker 1: five hundred, email in at web radio at Patriots dot com,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're asking you guys today, what's the one

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Speaker 1: thing you'd like to see the Patriots do coming off

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Speaker 1: the by? And I talked about this a little bit

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Speaker 1: unfiltered already, so I apologize for people that have been

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Speaker 1: want to see the Patriots do is rediscover their offensive identity. Right,

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Speaker 1: what is it that you're good at as an offense?

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Speaker 1: And the analogy that I'm gonna use is a I'm

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Speaker 1: What were the good plays that they hit on? And

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Speaker 1: And their dig routes are now instead of running digs

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Speaker 1: And I think the rest of it will come together

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Speaker 1: if they can get back to that. What's your one

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Speaker 1: more with yours. I didn't mean to call your take basic.

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Speaker 1: You just said we can't have the same take, and

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Speaker 1: you are the host. We talked about this last week,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't say RPOs because that's my whole thing, and

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Speaker 1: ninety eight five sports dot com, I instantly, I mean

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Speaker 1: within seconds. Gottie tweet asking if you made me write it.

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Speaker 1: why we're a good team. It would really help a

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Speaker 1: You can kind of negate some of the issues on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. It is more about attacking that short

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Speaker 1: They have guys who are experienced with these plays. For

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Romandre Stevenson, Damien Harris, DeVante Parker. It makes

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Speaker 1: a ton of sense. There's another interesting trend when it

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some numbers here. Evan vermondre Stevenson

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Speaker 1: Like that's what you got. So the obvious thing is

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Speaker 1: that the first and second down role now gets platooned

428
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Speaker 1: by Damien Harris and Romandre, and Ramandre is more in

429
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Speaker 1: that like Rex Birkhead type of role where he's playing

430
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Speaker 1: on like, you know, half of the first and second

431
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Speaker 1: down plays and then he's playing all of the third

432
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Speaker 1: down plays, right, Like that's kind of the the idea that,

433
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Speaker 1: so I think that that would certainly help. I do

434
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: think this team misses Drmond is just not the James

435
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: White type. He's a great player, I don't get me wrong,

436
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: but that's just not his skill set. You know. He's

437
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 1: not that jitterbug quick guy get open at the top

438
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Speaker 1: of the route. He's very very quick for his size,

439
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: but he's not necessarily very very quick in the grand

440
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: scheme of things, right in terms of getting open at

441
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Speaker 1: the top of the route. So I still think that

442
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Speaker 1: they missed that player. I think they drafted Pierre Strong

443
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: hoping that he would develop into that player. But as

444
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: we know, it takes time to develop that player. It's

445
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: not going to happen right away and this system. So

446
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's next year that Pierre Strong ends up being

447
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Speaker 1: that guy. But how do you think that they sorted

448
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Speaker 1: out at running back? I think that ultimately Damian Harris

449
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 1: gets ten carries a game, Ormandre gets twenty carries a game,

450
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Speaker 1: and he's still gonna play a lot. Like I just

451
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: think that that's sort of the way it's gonna go.

452
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: He's their best offensive playmaker right now. Yeah, so I

453
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Speaker 1: as and I'm the one who's been saying this NonStop.

454
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm a broken record on this. You can't run him

455
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Speaker 1: into the ground. And late in the season these Buffalo

456
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Speaker 1: games right in Miami, when you need him it is.

457
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: He going to be banged up, But I'm not sure

458
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: how much they can afford take him off the field.

459
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: I think he is the third down back at this

460
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Speaker 1: point on early downs. I would like to see more

461
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Speaker 1: of Damien Harris because I still think Damian lost in

462
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Speaker 1: all of this is Damien Harris is still a very

463
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: good player. Oh yeah. I don't know what it is

464
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Speaker 1: about some Patriots fans that want to bury Damien Harris

465
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Speaker 1: just because he's not Remandre Stevenson. It's a weird thing.

466
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really get it. Early in

467
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Speaker 1: the year they were kind of alternating drives and then

468
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Speaker 1: it would just be Remandre on third downs. I'd like

469
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Speaker 1: to see them go back to that. Yeah, yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: All right, Todd, North Carolina, Todd, what's up? Hey, guys?

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Speaker 1: You know my one thing that you mentioned, I don't

472
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Speaker 1: think you can say the identity. I think you just

473
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Speaker 1: need to find one thing on that open to make

474
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Speaker 1: it right and hopefully it'll cascade. And my thing to

475
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Speaker 1: make right is the old line, because that's where I

476
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Speaker 1: think we're really hurting. Is that old line. They like

477
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Speaker 1: you guys said switch sides. He saw it in practice.

478
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Speaker 1: They're switching back. They eat something seriously something. Yeah, that's

479
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Speaker 1: a great segue. Thanks Todd for teas and teeing us

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Speaker 1: up on that. I just want to go back to

481
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Speaker 1: something Patty said real quick because we didn't answer his

482
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Speaker 1: last question about Steve Sarkisian. Oh, he's not leaving Texas.

483
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: It's a great situation right now. He's not leaving Texas.

484
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: He has arch Manning coming right exactly. He's got Quinn.

485
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Speaker 1: Yours now have arch Manning. That roster's loaded. They'd be

486
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Speaker 1: a playoff team right now if it wasn't for yours

487
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: getting hurt. Okay, So, offensive line we did see briefly

488
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Speaker 1: at practice. And I say briefly because I don't want

489
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Speaker 1: to look too much into this right because you know,

490
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Speaker 1: who knows what happened when the media went away or

491
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen on Sunday. But we did see

492
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Speaker 1: briefly Isaiah Wynn taking reps at left tackle, which presumably

493
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Speaker 1: means that Trent Brown would be on the other side

494
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Speaker 1: at right tackle, except he wasn't in this case. And

495
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Speaker 1: what we saw, okay, so Yey at right tackle, yeah, right,

496
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Speaker 1: Trent was he had his helmet off. Okay, So they're

497
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Speaker 1: at least giving Win some reps on the left side

498
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Speaker 1: again at left tackle, and potentially maybe we could see

499
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Speaker 1: a flip back to what it was last year with

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Speaker 1: Trent at right and Win at left. But now that

501
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Speaker 1: you tell me that Yadney was still let right, tells

502
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Speaker 1: me that this means absolutely nothing, and it's most likely

503
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: just they've cycled guys in and practice to get guys

504
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Speaker 1: reps in work in case somebody gets hurt and you

505
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: know Blake break class scenarios, right, guys take reps at

506
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Speaker 1: different spots and things like that, just in case at

507
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Speaker 1: this juncture right of practice, I mean it the structure

508
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Speaker 1: so that that might just be typical you know rotation

509
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: right now, nothing really too deep to look into it,

510
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: but just to deep and dive deep into the offensive line.

511
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Speaker 1: What's the best way to configure this? Because I always

512
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: go back to all the Dante's scarneckia isms that we've

513
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Speaker 1: heard over the years, Getting continuity is the most important thing.

514
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Speaker 1: It's not like last year I don't know if that

515
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Speaker 1: five with Ted Carress at guard was actually their most

516
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Speaker 1: talented group of five, because Mike on Wenu might be

517
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Speaker 1: more talented than Ted Carresses. But it was consistent they

518
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Speaker 1: had now every week it was working. The guys were

519
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Speaker 1: seeing it through the same set of eyes as they

520
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Speaker 1: like to say here, and that was the key. It's

521
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Speaker 1: not necessarily the best five, it's just the right five, right,

522
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Speaker 1: and so what's A what's the right five? And B?

523
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Speaker 1: Can they fix it this year? Like is this? Because

524
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Speaker 1: that's the thing I go back to it, especially at

525
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Speaker 1: right tackle. Is I'm just not sure that they have

526
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Speaker 1: a great answer on the roster this year. Yeah. I

527
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Speaker 1: So Bill was asked this morning about playing Michael and

528
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Speaker 1: winning at right tackle. He said, they don't want to

529
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Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, So I think their best combination includes

530
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Speaker 1: him at right tackle, but we're gonna take that off

531
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Speaker 1: the table because they're not going to do it right right. So,

532
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Speaker 1: I I worry about when at left tackle at this

533
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Speaker 1: point because he just seems so disconnected, he seems broken

534
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: that like now we're gonna put him on the blind

535
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: side with Paul Strange next to him. Yeah, and look,

536
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Speaker 1: he's been better as a left tackle throughout his career.

537
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Speaker 1: I can understand the logic if that's what they're gonna do,

538
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Speaker 1: But I still think like Trent Brown has been fine

539
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Speaker 1: this year. He had one bad game against I think

540
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Speaker 1: it was the Packers right where he had like four enalties. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: but if Trent Brown was the biggest issue on their

542
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: offensive line, their offensive line would be fine. Right now,

543
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Speaker 1: I feel like I still I still think it's Trent

544
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Speaker 1: at left and then well, Marcus Cannon is not healthy,

545
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: so I guess, yeah, he could just at right tackle. Yeah,

546
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, because all this moving, you know, Trent

547
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Speaker 1: back to the right side or kicking on when you

548
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: out to right tackle. Like the three spots that have

549
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: worked have been Trent at left on when he went right,

550
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Speaker 1: and David Andrews at center. So like, why would you

551
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Speaker 1: move the guys that are actually playing well, right, Like,

552
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Speaker 1: let's move the let's figure it out with the guys

553
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Speaker 1: that are not playing so hot. I think with Cole

554
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Speaker 1: Strange at left guard, he's got to play, And I

555
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: think you just have to live with some of the

556
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Speaker 1: rookie mistakes that he's gonna make and some of the

557
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: rookie you know, some of the blown blocks that he's

558
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: gonna have, just because he's his first year in the

559
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: league and hope that this the reps help him work

560
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: out of it, especially with David Andrews back right right tackle.

561
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Speaker 1: I would roll the Cojuice too. I just think he

562
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: looks more comfortable if it's not it wasn't perfect and

563
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: far from perfect against the Colts, he looks more comfortable

564
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: playing on the right side than Isaiah wind Like, I

565
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: thought the issues that could Juice had right tackle were

566
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Speaker 1: not necessarily me looking at him and being like, you know,

567
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: his footwork is broken on this side of the line right,

568
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: or you know he's not getting out of his stance,

569
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Speaker 1: or he's not getting depth or being able to kick

570
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: and really slide his feet because he's his feet are

571
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Speaker 1: backwards right right. So this was more you know, I

572
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Speaker 1: think timing maybe a little bit limited in terms of

573
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Speaker 1: range at right tackle, but those I think are things

574
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Speaker 1: that hopefully with more reps, the timing and sort of

575
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: the rhythm of it will pick up. And then also

576
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Speaker 1: if he is going to be a little bit slower

577
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: footed over there and he isn't going to have great range,

578
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: you can chip, you can slide protection. You can leave

579
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: the tight end over there and block or chip on

580
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: his way out. Like, there's ways that you can help

581
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Speaker 1: him keep nner. I'd say this with him, and I

582
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't mean this is an excuse.

583
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm just add in context. He played ten offensive snaps

584
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Week one, so before that Colts game, right, Yeah, he

585
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: played ten offensive snaps Week one this year. Before that,

586
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: the last time he played any offensive snaps, and he

587
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: played special teams weeks two and three. But ten offensive

588
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: snaps in week one, you have to go back to

589
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Speaker 1: Week ten last year. It's actually over a year ago today,

590
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: a year ago and two days ago. He played two

591
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: offensive snaps against Cleveland. The last time he played significant

592
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: offensive snaps was Week five of last season, October tenth,

593
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: that Texans game when everybody had Covid on the offensive line, right, So, yeah,

594
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: the time he's gonna be off, the guy hasn't played forever.

595
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: So that's something that is relatively fixable. Yeah, if that

596
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: makes sense. Yeah, he had some range issues. You know,

597
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: he just wasn't he was giving up the corner too easily, right,

598
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: And I don't think, but I don't think that he's

599
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: that's indicative of his athleticism, because he's a very athletic

600
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Speaker 1: aspecting a guy that hasn't seen a live rep in

601
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: a year. Right, So I think that there there's ways

602
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: to improve that. So I think they would be okay there.

603
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say they're gonna be great, but well,

604
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: so let me ask you this, assuming he irons that out,

605
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: you're sticking with him when Marcus Cannon comes back, yes, okay,

606
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon to me, at this stage of his career,

607
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: is a tackle eligible. He's a sixth offensive lineman. Bring

608
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: him in on short yardage or if that's a game

609
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: plan wrinkle that you want to throw out there and

610
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: go go heavy against a light defense and run the football.

611
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Speaker 1: I think that that's what he can be. But in

612
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Speaker 1: terms of his days of being a full time right

613
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Speaker 1: tackle in this league, I think we're beyond it, right.

614
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: I think it's over now. To go back to some

615
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: of the things we were talking about off the top

616
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Speaker 1: of the show with the line sacks, pressures. Some of

617
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: the stuff is a quarterback stat, right, Like some of

618
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: this stuff is a play design stat. Yeah. And if

619
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Speaker 1: they get the ball out of the quarterback's hands faster,

620
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: the line's gonna look better, right Like, that's just in sense.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of it, I think too, is that

622
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: as a staff they have to look at it and say, well,

623
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Speaker 1: we our line's not playing great, like we have we

624
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: have some guy you know, right tackles a hole for us.

625
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: Right now, we have a guard, a rookie guard on

626
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Speaker 1: the left side. So seven step drop Bruce arians no

627
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: risk it, no biscuit like that. Come on, we can't

628
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: be doing that right like, you gotta get the ball

629
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Speaker 1: out of his hands faster. So whether that's RPOs like

630
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: we've always talked about or you just talked about, or

631
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: it's quick passing game, it's short and intermediate, you know,

632
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: doing that sort of thing. I think a lot of

633
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: that can be masked by play calling and design and

634
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: just getting the football out of the quarterback's hands. So

635
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: I think there's it all goes together. You know, they

636
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: don't have I think coming into the season, they thought

637
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: that they were going to have a line that was

638
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: capable of holding up in pass protection to be a

639
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Speaker 1: more vertical passing game team. They don't have that line.

640
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: It didn't come to fruition, And that goes back to

641
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: part of the caller's question, you know, do they have

642
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: enough to fix it? I think they can hide some

643
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: of it. Like you said, those quick passing concepts, our

644
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: pos again would be part of it, you know, breaking

645
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: up the play calling. Something that can help him in

646
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: a pass rush is play action. If you're running play action,

647
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: those edge rushers can't just pin their ears back right,

648
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: So more of that. But I think that's their best

649
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: bet at this point. I don't know that they have

650
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: the options in house to fully fully fix it. Like

651
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: I've said this before, when we do the offseason, a heavy, heavy,

652
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: heavy portion what we talk about is going to be

653
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: offensive line, specifically tackles. Yeah, it just you gotta know

654
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: your personnel and you have to know where your weaknesses are.

655
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: I think Belichick is another Belichick is um of it's

656
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: almost more important to hide your weaknesses and highlight your strengths,

657
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: right Like, you gotta know what you're bad at so

658
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: that you're able to cover it up. And they've always

659
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: done a good job of that. And I think the

660
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: line is you know, tackle right tackle, left guard, Like

661
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to know that they're not gonna they're

662
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: not going to be able to hit a play on

663
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: Sunday where they're making Mac hold the ball for three

664
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: seconds and quinnin Williams is one on one with Cole

665
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Strange like that's that play is not going to end

666
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: well for them, So they got to figure out ways

667
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: to scheme around it. All right, Eldred, North Carolina And

668
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get into the jets. What's up, Eldred? Hey?

669
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: So that how y'all doing? I'm Dan, Well, how are you?

670
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing? Hey? Uh, let's make fee a question. Sure?

671
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Could it be that? Uh? When they're steaming up? I

672
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: heard you talk earlier about those sixteen ends and people

673
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: running deep to clear. Could they beat it? Did they

674
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: got the Rome people are clear and the Rome people

675
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: running running the end route? Yeah? I think there's definitely

676
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: some truth to that. I mean, Kenrith Bourns your intermediate guy, right,

677
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers is that intermediate guy. So they're the ones

678
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: that you would typically run on the on the d cuts,

679
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: right on the inbreaking routes exactly. There's sometimes where you

680
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: know on the play that I was referencing, Taekwon was

681
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: the clear out quote unquote, So that's the right spot

682
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: to be in, but without DeVante Parker and with Nelson

683
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Agalore basically on the bench right right in the bench

684
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: right now, it's there three receivers strength of the formation

685
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the time right now it's Jacoby Kendrick

686
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: Born and Hunter Henry. Those are the three guys that

687
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: they're releasing into the pattern, and then Tai Kwon's at

688
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: the X on the back side. It's not a whole

689
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: lot of speed in that three man group, right Like,

690
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: that's not a vertical group. So to me, it's maybe

691
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: Devanta Parker comes back and that frees up Tai Kwon

692
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: to go onto the passing strength instead of being lost

693
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: on the back side. Maybe they if Devanta Parker is

694
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent, maybe they just need to have

695
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: aggle or run winsprints on the back side, right Like,

696
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: we're not necessarily going to come your way, but we

697
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: just want you to, you know, run your four four

698
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: up the field and take the coverage with you is

699
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: fine with us, and that would free up Tai Kwon

700
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: of course, and then go and clear coverage out on

701
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: this passing strength. But yeah, there's definitely a lot of

702
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: plays from that colds tape Eldred where it's born Myers

703
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: and Henry trying to create space off of each other.

704
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: And that's just not a very fast group of receivers. No, no,

705
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: it's just not at all. That's why I was get wondering.

706
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: But also one thing I want to see is, uh,

707
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: they get better at a play design and play college.

708
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: You know, I know what is the first time they

709
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: were thinking. But my own my own own thank you

710
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: is if Haley was turning in the under McDaniels and

711
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: it's first time he kind of skeptical of him, why

712
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: not getting a shot? It can't be no worse than

713
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: what it is now, lest you do, no office of

714
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: corn stamp. You know, I know how the skiing thing,

715
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: especially we've been training on the UNI MD Daniel, that's

716
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: the one thing I can't understand. You know, it doesn't

717
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: make sense to me. Yeah, no, eld it's a fair point.

718
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: And thanks for calling in. I think the the Nick

719
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: Keley thing is interesting. We were talking a little bit

720
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: about this earlier, Nick Hayley. I thought he said Haley.

721
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: I was like, Todd Haley. I was very confused. Okay,

722
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: we were talking a little bit about this earlier, Nick Keyley.

723
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: Todd Haley is a USFL GM right now, is he

724
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: really Nick Keyley getting essentially passed over? Yeah, And I

725
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: would throw Troy Brown in that category as well, right,

726
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: essentially passed over by Joe, Judge and Matt Patricia, especially

727
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: Patricia to call the offense. They're not. I don't think

728
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: they're going to take play calling responsibilities away from Patricia.

729
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: I just don't think that they I think that they are.

730
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: I think Bill has to recognize that he's put Patricia

731
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: in a little bit of a tough spot here, and

732
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's going to make it any

733
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: sort of appearance of we demoted him, right. I don't

734
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: think he's going to do that. But so I guess that,

735
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: you know, that's sort of the end of it. But

736
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: I do think that there's a conversation there of and

737
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: this gets into the inside out of the program that

738
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: they're running here with the coaching staff. So, you know,

739
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of information leaks out about what

740
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: exactly the coaches do or what exactly is going on

741
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: behind the closed doors. But Nick, Kaylee and Troy Brown's

742
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: role in all of this I think gets overlooked because

743
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: Patricia and Judge are the faces right now of the offense.

744
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: They're the guys running the show, it seems, so we're

745
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: not talking as much about well, they do have guys

746
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: on the staff that have offensive experience, but there does

747
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: not at the forefront of what's going on right now. Yeah,

748
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: and I you know what was really interesting to me

749
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: when we were going through that all this summer and

750
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: who's going to call the place and who's gonna be

751
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: the guy? Yeah, tight quarterbacks coaches obviously get the most

752
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: look for offensive coordinator spots, and it makes sense, right,

753
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, their former quarterba the quarterback position is still involved.

754
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the prevalence in which tight ends coaches

755
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: become offensive coordinators because essentially what happens is there's two

756
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: game plans created. They're in this a bit of an oversimplification,

757
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: but there's the passing game plan and the running game plan.

758
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: You hear teams of right passing game coordinators running game coordinators,

759
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: and then it's basically up to the offensive coordinator to

760
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: mold that all together and come up with the final

761
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: game plan. Tight Ends coaches are in a unique spot

762
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: where they, more so and any other positional coach, are

763
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: involved in both aspects of that right because tight ends

764
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: are going to run in the pass route and they

765
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: play key roles in run blocking. So that's why Nick

766
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: Kayley was an interesting candidate. And then Troy Brown having

767
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: been a running backs coach. Remember he was the running

768
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: backs coach when he first got here. Obviously we know

769
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: about his experience not only as a wide receivers coach,

770
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: but as a wide receiver. But he remember he also

771
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: was the emergency quarterback. Yeah, so he sort of has

772
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: that well rounded view of the game as well. And

773
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: this is where I actually liked that they that they

774
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: have coaches as they're coming up coach all over the place.

775
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: We've talked about this. Matt Patricia started as a defense

776
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: as an offensive line coach. Josh McDaniels was a defensive

777
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: assistant his first year. Now, I think you can go

778
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: too far with that, but there is some logic in that,

779
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: and to me, that prepared a guy like Nick Kaylee

780
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: for an opportunity like this, or prepared a guy like

781
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: Troy Brown having him coach running backs. I remember when

782
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: he did that. I was like, why why is Troy

783
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: Brown the running backs coach? He's receiver? Yeah, it makes sense,

784
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: but you gotta if you never promote them, then you

785
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: don't get to that step. And that's not say they'll

786
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: never be promoted, but yeah, I think when you look

787
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: at play calling in general, I think the biggest thing

788
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: that stands out to me is that they don't they

789
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: don't sequence the plays together right like. It's not they're

790
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: not complimentary. It feels like they have an under center

791
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: package and they have a gun package, but the gun

792
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: package and the under center package are totally different things,

793
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: right like, So when they get into first like first

794
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: down right now, they're one of the worst first down

795
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. I think they're twenty eighth and

796
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: first down, you know, yards per play on first down.

797
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: When you look at why, I think a big reason

798
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: why is that it's a it's predictable. I think that's

799
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: definitely been taught or you know, spelled out here for you.

800
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: But I think the biggest thing is is that there's

801
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: no there's no packaging of the plays together, right like.

802
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: The plays with the best first and second down teams

803
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: are the teams that make everything look the same, whether

804
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: they're they're pulling the guard to run the ball or

805
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: they're pulling the guard to hit you on play action

806
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: it looks the first initial three or four steps to

807
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: the play look exactly the same, So everybody has the

808
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: same keys as they would have run or pass. If

809
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: you're a wide zone team like a Shanahan Tree team,

810
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: then your outside zone looks exactly the same as your bootlegs.

811
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Right it's all buries up together, and right now, it

812
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: feels like their run game in their play action pass

813
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: game don't marry up together. Where what they're trying to

814
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: do is they're trying to just get single high based

815
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: off of formation, right, So they put run personnel or

816
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: run formation out there, or it's JOHNU in the backfield,

817
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: two tight end like whatever, and they're just trying to

818
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: attack the single high coverage down the field. But the

819
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: second level of the defense is really not a factor, right,

820
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: Like they're not trying to pull the second level up.

821
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: They're not trying to influence the second level at all.

822
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: They're just trying to get a vertical concept on a

823
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: single high coverage like that's the goal of the formation.

824
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: So if you look at McDaniels' offense is great at

825
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: it in terms of sequencing the power running game with

826
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: your play action passing game. Pull a guard lead a

827
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: full back like those types of things. The Shanahan Tree

828
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: does it with outside zone right outside zone, and then

829
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: we bootleg off of outside zone. Right now, the Patriots

830
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: don't have that identity that's sequencing going. It's just like

831
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: you mentioned I think this last weekly, it's like training camp,

832
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: like we're just calling plays right Like it's just there's

833
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: no there's no rhyme or reason to it. It's it's

834
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna call play A, then B, then C. Right.

835
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: So this is something by the way, Josh McDaniels, I

836
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: don't want to say he did too much, but you remember,

837
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 1: like Josh McDaniels, over the course of the game, they'd

838
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: run the same play three, four or five times and

839
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: it didn't work any of the times, and it's like,

840
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: why do they keep running this? It's not working right,

841
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: But then you get to the fourth quarter and they'd

842
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: run something that looked a lot like it, but then

843
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't. And the whole time he's sucking the defense

844
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: in and they see this look and then boom he

845
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: hit on the other side. I'll give you an example

846
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: from this year, right, I thought they and you see

847
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: this all the time when you see a team run

848
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: a play repeatedly that doesn't work most of the time.

849
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: That's why they're trying to set something up off of it.

850
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: It's a trap, right, and it's up for the defense

851
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: to be disciplined. And I still Star Wars reference, thank you.

852
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 1: So go back to the first game against the Jets, right, Yes,

853
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: And this one's interesting because against divisional teams you can

854
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: do this over the course of two games. It's not

855
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: necessarily within one game. So maybe this one isn't complete yet.

856
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: But they ran twice a screen to Jacoby Myers that

857
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: was not that disguise. It was literally Jacobe from his

858
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: dance hopped in ninety degrees. They threw the ball right

859
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: out to him. Sauce Reddit both times came up, made

860
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: the tackle the line of scrimmage. Right, what I was

861
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: waiting for them to do, And maybe they'll do it

862
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: this week. We'll see is Kobe jumps inside right, makes

863
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: that ninety degree cut inside, Mac pumps that and then

864
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: Jacoby takes off down the field and the ideas the

865
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: corners come up like a bluff screen. Right, they used

866
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: to do all the corner has seen that so many times. Right,

867
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: We're all right, the receiver's looking in and the quarterback

868
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: all right, it's that screen. I'm gonna move up. I'm

869
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna make the tackle, especially your rookie like Sauce Gardner.

870
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, well he's looking into Mac

871
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: to see where the screen's coming. Jacoby goes around the

872
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: back and is up the sideline like I was waiting for. Like,

873
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: it's the play whatever, it's a screen, it's whatever. It's

874
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: a pretty vanilla screen. But I'm like, this feels like

875
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: a setup play. But it's only a setup play if

876
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: you then go with the shot play off of it.

877
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: So we'll see if it comes this week. But that's

878
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: a perfect example of can they you know, just build

879
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: off it, just go to that next step step pos.

880
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: It's like you've shown that you have ourpos in your playbook,

881
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: but you're not hitting any of them down the field yet.

882
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: So now I mentioned that bluff slant that they ran

883
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: to Lazard the packers did. Yeah, it's like you've shown

884
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: on tape that RPO screen one hundred times at this point.

885
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: So now if you first initial step for the receiver

886
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: is oh, I'm blocking on the screen, and then all

887
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I release on the slant like that's

888
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: gonna be wide a open, as we say in the

889
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: film film Twitter World, right, like that's gonna be wide

890
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: a open. I can't say that a I think I

891
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: might be able to say the next time. Anyways, I

892
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: want to get into the Jets though, and I do

893
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: have a take on the Vikings and the Bills, and

894
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get to but let's let's talk a little

895
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: bit Jets. I think we've talked a lot about the

896
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: offense already just at the top of the show. And

897
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: I still feel like offensively, like when I used to do,

898
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: like my game preview pieces are very schemy, like I

899
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: kind of try to guess the game plan for the

900
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Patriots on both sides of the ball. When I used

901
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: to do it with you know, in the past, even

902
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: last year, I used to really look at all, this

903
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: is what this team ran, and this is what would

904
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: work again at this point, what the offense. It feels

905
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: like you gotta run what works for you, like you

906
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: gotta It's not so much about running plays at work

907
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: against a particular defense or system that the Jets run.

908
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: It's more about like, okay, what can we execute defensively?

909
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: Though it's a different ball game. I think the biggest

910
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: separation from the Bills game for the Jets and from

911
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: the Patriots game for the Jets was their running game.

912
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: They weren't able to run the ball on Buffalo. They

913
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: weren't able to run the ball on the Patriots, and

914
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: that was a big part of that game. And put

915
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and third and law, Josh Allen, Zach Wilson

916
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: in third and long and you know, really put the

917
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: game in his hands. He threw the ball forty times,

918
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: as Paul likes to remind me. So defensively, it kind

919
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: of feels like both sides of the football. But I

920
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: don't think a ton is gonna change, Like, I don't

921
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: think this matchup is going to change significantly in three weeks.

922
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see a completely different game

923
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: plan by the Jets. Maybe they do try to run

924
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: the football a little bit more, but if they can't

925
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: run it effectively on first down, then they're not going

926
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: to be able to keep running it. So that's really

927
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: the bottom line. But what are you looking to see

928
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: it from the Patriots in this game? And I do

929
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: you think the Jets are ready? Like? Do you think

930
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: that they're ready to win the first time in thirteen

931
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: straight games against the Patriots because I still can't pick

932
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: the Jets in this game. I see the pieces there

933
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: for them that makes me think, Okay, they probably are

934
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: playing better football right now than the Patriots, But I

935
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: just can't imagine Zach Wilson getting over the hump against

936
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: Bill in this game. The last game was decided to

937
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: me by what the Patriots did at the line of

938
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Absolutely, yeah, the

939
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: defense was able to force all those turnovers because when

940
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: we talked about this on the show, the pass rush,

941
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: and I should say, you know, on the line the

942
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: linebackers played a partners too. Pass rush was disciplined. They

943
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: contained Zach Wilson, they didn't overpursue. They basically hemmed him

944
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: into the sideline and said throw it. Either step out

945
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: of bounds or throw it. And as we know, Zach Wilson,

946
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, refuses to throw the football away. He

947
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: won't do it. His idea was actually weird about that game.

948
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: He actually had six throwaways in that game. He should

949
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: have had twenty. That right. That was the thing though,

950
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: It was like, if here's Zach Wilson and I think

951
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: that this is a great bait by Belichick. Yeah. It's like, okay, well,

952
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: I can't throw it away every single time on third down, right,

953
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: like I can't. We can't do this every single you can,

954
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: but you can you should, especially with that defense right right.

955
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: And let's remember too, his idea of throwing the ball

956
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: away is putting it like six inches over the sideline.

957
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: He won't put it up in the stands, and like that.

958
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: The democcordy interception is supposed to be I forget if

959
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: it was his first or second one right where he

960
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: goes down to his knees was supposed to be a throwaway.

961
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: Devin mccordy's first one, Zack Wilson's second, Okay, yeah, yeah,

962
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: um yeah, because the first one was John Bentley right

963
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: over the middle, like he has the arm to put

964
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: it six rows up and he just won't do it.

965
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: But um yeah. So on defense, the Patriots pass rush

966
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: containing not over pursuing Zach Wilson, not allowing him to

967
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: extend plays. That's why the Patriots won the game. The

968
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: reason it was as close as it was was the

969
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: Patriots could not give mac Jones anytime. He was constantly pressured,

970
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: he's constantly rush, he got sped up, he's throwing the

971
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: ball away a ton, he's throwing the ball at his

972
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: receiver's eat a ton. So what's going to change within

973
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: that one big change? David Andrews, we think sounded like

974
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: it this morning from Bill is going to be back.

975
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: And Quinnon Williams was a beast in that game. Quinn

976
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: Williams a beast in general, but I mean that was

977
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: even for him, those great games. So if the Patriots

978
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: can get blocked up front better, and the pass rush

979
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: can be just as disciplined and ineffective, which I think

980
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: it will be, then the Patriots at home should have

981
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: a relatively easy time. The way this game gets away

982
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: from them is if they can't block again, and if

983
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson starts getting time, that to me is what

984
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: could flip the game. Because I don't believe I thought

985
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: I saw today. Corey Davis didn't practice, he didn't play

986
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: in that last game, so we'll see if he's back.

987
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: That could help the passing game. But Zach Wilson through,

988
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: So here's kind of the rub of it. Zach Wilson

989
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: through for three hundred and fifty five yards. In that game,

990
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: as rough as it looked for him, he threw for

991
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty five yards. He probably should have

992
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: thrown for five, but he's constantly overthrowing guys and missing

993
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: breeds and whatever it was. It was three bad throws.

994
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: Like he played a fine game. I know, people see

995
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: here that knows more than three. How can you say

996
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: that he played a fine game through turning the ball

997
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: over three times? He was if you look at the numbers,

998
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: he was good from clean pockets, which were many of them,

999
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: but he was good from clean pockets. He was actually

1000
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 1: outside of two interceptions, I think one interception, he was

1001
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: actually really good against the Blitz. He averaged like ten

1002
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: yards per attempt against the Blitz. All right, here, here's

1003
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: where you have to go beyond the numbers. You want

1004
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: to say he had more than three bad throws. He

1005
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: threw the ball. I think what thirty five forty times

1006
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: forty one? Let's say he had ten bad throws. Eight

1007
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: of those occurred on third down. Oh yeah, like they

1008
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: threw the ball I think thirteen times on fourteen third

1009
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: down Mac throws that early interception. The Jets get the

1010
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: ball back, they have a lead, they have a chance

1011
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: to really take that game over. They get a third

1012
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: and now on was six seven and he has Tyler

1013
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: Conklin wide open fifteen yards down the field. Tyler Conklin's

1014
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: a big dude. Puts it about twenty feet over his head. Yeah,

1015
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: and there was some pressure, not a ton. So that's

1016
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: where again I go to, Yeah, he threw for three

1017
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five yards. A lot of those were

1018
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: after the catch, and he could have had more if

1019
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't out there overthrowing guys. So just keep it

1020
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: goes back, And we've talked about this with Mac a lot.

1021
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: If you get pressure on him regularly, the pressure will

1022
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: start to impact him, even on the snaps where he's

1023
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: not pressured, because now he's feeling it. And I think

1024
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: you saw some of that in that game. So the

1025
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: three hundred fifty again, you know it was a fine

1026
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: game minus three throws. I don't go that far. If

1027
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: they keep the pressure on him, they'll be okay. Yeah,

1028
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: I definitely agree at that point. But I looking at

1029
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: some of the table and some of the just metrics

1030
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: of it, I actually was surprised on how well he

1031
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: played outside of the three bone headed pins. Outside of

1032
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: well when he played poorly. He played well, is what

1033
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: you're saying. Well, what I'm saying is that you play

1034
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 1: this guy twice so if they can somehow drill into

1035
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: his head, just don't throw the all to Devin mccordy

1036
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: like he's the intended receiver. Then the game all of

1037
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, I think, I think you're It wasn't just

1038
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: the turnovers. Again, I go back to the third down

1039
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: play to Conklin. He had another. There was another third

1040
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: down where he had I don't remember it was Garrett

1041
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Wilson or Elijah Moore. He had a wide receiver just

1042
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 1: it was simple on the sideline, like eight yards away

1043
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: from him, and again put it over. It wasn't as

1044
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: bad the receiver got a finger on it going up.

1045
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: But a quarterback, he's also not a good quarterback under pressure.

1046
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: I threw this out earlier that these are the two

1047
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: lowest rated pastors in the league. Off of look at him.

1048
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean there's pictures right there because we have felgren

1049
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: Mas on the monitor. He looks terrified every time he's

1050
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: throwing the football, and mac Justin doesn't. I'm sorry, I'm

1051
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: just look at look at him though. Yeah, anyway, they

1052
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: are the two worst pastors in the league under pressure.

1053
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: Do you want to know Zach Wilson's passer rating while

1054
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: under under pressure? So I remember it was fifty four

1055
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: going into the last game against the Patriots. That was it?

1056
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: That his passerrating It's like NFL passer rating is six

1057
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: point six full a point six, Cody, Like, it's not

1058
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: even sixty six. I guess six point six. Now Mac

1059
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: Jones is twenty seven point two. So it's not much better. Both,

1060
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: it's like three times better, four times. It's so bad,

1061
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: is my point? Both quarterbacks. See what the passer rating

1062
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: is for an incomplete pass. It's thirty nine point six. Yeah,

1063
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: so if you just spike the ball into the ground,

1064
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: then you have a higher passer rating than Mac Jones

1065
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: and Zach Wilson under pressure. Like that's just wild, right, right,

1066
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: So this Jack Wilson just and I'm not saying that

1067
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: Mac is not prone to this as well, but just

1068
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: like the Patriots did two weeks ago, if you put

1069
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: pressure on Zach Wilson, he folds every single time, right,

1070
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: And the number one thing that he does, I mean,

1071
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: decision making obviously was bad against the Patriots, but in general,

1072
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: I would say that that first interception, the Jawan Bentley interception,

1073
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: is more in give of what happens. If that's overthrows,

1074
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: he just air mills it. When he sees pressure, he's

1075
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: he just his mechanics, guys. So that's the number one

1076
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: thing for the Patriots in this game is it's not

1077
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: necessarily like, oh, it should be calling zero blitzes and

1078
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Not not necessarily, But they need to

1079
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: scheme it up, just like they did in the meadow

1080
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: Lands in the past. For rush, they're in a lot

1081
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: of those replacement pressures where you drop guys off the

1082
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and blitz guys up the middle and

1083
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: to send guys from different directions and kind of confuse

1084
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: the protection that way. That that I'm sure will be

1085
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: a big part of the game plan. Again, But getting

1086
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: pressure on Wilson winning in the line of scrimmage, like

1087
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: this is these two teams are still flawed, right, So

1088
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: they're not This is not two teams that are just

1089
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: immune to operating in bad circumstances. Like if these two

1090
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are under pressure all day, they play poorly, just

1091
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: like they did two weeks ago. Right, So that's that's

1092
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: where the Jets and the pictures are. I guess this

1093
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: is what it comes down to. Which team is better

1094
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: equipped to cut down on the pressure from the last meeting.

1095
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think that mac Jones is

1096
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: better equipped to not have the catastrophic turnover. Okay, so

1097
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: that's part of it. But I would say, like which

1098
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: team is the most room for improvement in terms of

1099
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: pass protection? I would say it's the Patriots simply because

1100
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: they didn't have David Andrews last time and now they will. Right,

1101
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: this is pretty much been This is the Jets line,

1102
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: Like the Jets line is not good, and the Jets

1103
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: line is the Jets line, like right, Beckton is not

1104
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: coming back, Like they're not getting any pieces back. This

1105
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: is who they are. So Elijah Vera Tucker not coming back.

1106
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: So those guys are done. So whereas the Patriots, again,

1107
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: they didn't have David and that was the that was

1108
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: the first game without Andrews, right, because that was, yeah,

1109
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: the game after the Bears game. So not only did

1110
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: they not have them, they to adjust to playing without them.

1111
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: Now they have they we think they'll have him back. Well,

1112
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see you because in the next

1113
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: two weeks, and I know, one game at a time,

1114
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: but we can look ahead, all right. One of the

1115
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: things that bothers me, And this is a peeve. I

1116
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: know it doesn't matter, but it's a pet peeve when

1117
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: fans are like one game at a time, like we're

1118
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: not playing in the games, Like we can talk about

1119
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: the games that are coming up, all right? Can we

1120
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: say that? Oh Bill says one game at a time.

1121
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, you're gonna go out there on

1122
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: Sunday and play the Jets like you want to have

1123
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: a one game at him? And go ahead, come on

1124
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: it covering three games a twelve days, Like, oh, poor

1125
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: football media has to watch games. I am a little

1126
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: intimidated over the next fourteen day. Right, three game previews,

1127
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: three game recaps. I gotta watch all this like this

1128
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: is no come on, you were bragging me the other day,

1129
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: how good you felt because you already you're already ahead

1130
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: of stuff. I'm done on everything, all right, I'm sorry, sorry,

1131
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: can't be ahead of everything. You're right, you're right. So

1132
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: yesterday I took the buy, I took the extra time,

1133
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: and I watched Vikings bills that all twenty two of

1134
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: Vikings Bills because I felt like it was important a

1135
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: game that I was probably gonna watch anyways, just for

1136
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: you know, a cross. Yeah, I don't want to use

1137
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: that word across you know, analysis, right whatever. Ye. So

1138
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: the two biggest takeaways that I came away from those

1139
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: two games three, I should say, two of them are

1140
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: about the Bills won about the Vikings. The Vikings was

1141
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: quite honestly not very impressed with what I saw. Defensively,

1142
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: they played a really good game, and I think defensively

1143
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: the problem that they play well, they play fast, they're

1144
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: on a string. But the Bills are such a different animal,

1145
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 1: and I buy different, I mean better on offense that

1146
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: I just don't think that that's a game that's indicative

1147
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: of what the Vikings are gonna do against you, right,

1148
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna They're just not gonna play the

1149
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: Patriots the same way that they played Buffalo. So I

1150
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: kind of have to throw that game away away on

1151
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: the defense side of things. The Vikings offense, we were

1152
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: texting about this and I pushed back initially when you

1153
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: said they really don't have anybody outside of Justin Jefferson,

1154
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: When I kept wat, you're right, they don't have anybody

1155
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: outside of Justin Jefferson. I think Hawkinson could come on

1156
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: here and they'll bee being a factor. I like Hawkinson

1157
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: when when I said that, I'm more sum at Hawkinson's

1158
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: so new, they're how much of an impact he makes Now,

1159
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of weeks in he'll be a little

1160
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: bit more. But yeah, I mean Dalvin Cook's a good

1161
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: bye draft the roster, Dalvin Cooker, Ramondre Stevenson. I think

1162
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: it's closer now than Dalvin Cooks. I think a four

1163
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: time pro bowler, so I want right now, right now.

1164
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: I think it's a coin flip. I think whoever you said,

1165
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I think I think Dalvin's

1166
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: more explosive, right like he had that sixty sixty five

1167
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: yard run against Buffalo. I don't think that Romandre houses

1168
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: it from there. He's probably a slightly better receiver too.

1169
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: But I think Ramondres just he doesn't lose yards like

1170
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't, so obviously Justin Jefferson a wide receiver. But yeah,

1171
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: I take Justin Jefferson away. How different is that offense

1172
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: from the Patriots on It's not and honestly, which obviously

1173
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson be a huge differ. So, so here's the thing.

1174
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: When I was watching Kirk Cousins, I think I thought

1175
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: of the Spider Man, mean with Matt Jones. Yeah, it's

1176
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 1: the same guy. It's literally the same guy. Like it's

1177
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: wild and the only differences can't wait till we get

1178
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: the shirt playing picks. The only difference is is that

1179
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: I think O'Connell's a better play caller and the Patriots

1180
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: don't have Justin Jefferson. He's doing right. That's the biggest difference, right,

1181
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: is that they have a better offensive guy running the

1182
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: ship and they have an elite wide receiver at the

1183
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: Patriots don't have. But when I watched that game for

1184
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: the Bills, Yeah, and this relates to the Vikings. My

1185
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: whole point about the Vikings. I think that game on

1186
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving that is very winnable, very very very winnable because

1187
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: I look at that Vikings offense and that is an

1188
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: offense that Bill eats for breakfast. Like a quarterback that

1189
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: can't move, that can't throw to his second read, that's

1190
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: prone to turning the football over, that has one good

1191
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: receiver like that. This is like the book on the

1192
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have a quarterback like you much rather be.

1193
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: And you go up against Bill, you'd much rather it

1194
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: be Justin Fields and Kirk Cousins, right, Like, both have

1195
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: flaws and limitations, but one of those types of guys,

1196
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: Bill is going to come after Kirk Cousins. He's gonna

1197
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: put pressure on him all day long, and he's gonna

1198
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: make them throw to washed up Adam feland TJ Hawkinson.

1199
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: I can't even remember their third receiver's name, but he's

1200
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna make them throw to all the other guys right right,

1201
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: and Justin Jefferson is gonna be blanketed on every single play.

1202
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: That was to me, if that's a playoff game for Buffalo,

1203
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: that is a fireable game for Sean McDermott again, fireable again.

1204
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: They had they're like fourth and fifth string corners out

1205
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: there in that game, Dame Jackson on one side and

1206
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 1: Benford on the other side. They never helped. They didn't help,

1207
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: They didn't double or bracket Justin Jefferson. They played single

1208
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: high like quarters, and they played some two man right

1209
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: where they had the safety field safety over the top

1210
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: of Jefferson's side, but they essentially left ace. I think

1211
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: benfour was a sixth round pick and then the other

1212
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: guy was a UDFA. They essentially left. Like it would

1213
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: be like if the Patriots went into Thanksgiving Night, or

1214
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: it would be like last year when the Patriots had

1215
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: Vante Bosby on it would be like, let me give

1216
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: you a better comparison. That was mean. It'd be like

1217
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: it'd be like if they were said to Miles Bryant, like, Miles,

1218
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: you got eighteen the whole game right, Like just just

1219
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: take Justin Jefferson, Miles, like, you got this right. And

1220
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: they never adjusted. So when they don't adjust, they don't

1221
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: they do not adjust. They don't adjust, and they haven't

1222
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: for years. That gets into also, you know some of

1223
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: the game management stuff that QB sneaked that they botched, right.

1224
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: But this is a part of the reason why I

1225
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: think that Minnesota is beatable is because if they don't

1226
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: get a gift touchdown on Josh Allen fumbling on a

1227
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: QB sneak in his own end zone, and somebody decides

1228
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: to actually double team Justin Jefferson and make Kirk Cousins

1229
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: beat them throwing the ball elsewhere, then that's a that's

1230
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: a totally different game, and one I think that the

1231
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Patriots won't mess up like that like the Bills did

1232
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: on the half inch yard line and give up a touchdown.

1233
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: And two, I don't think that Bill is going to

1234
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: go into that game without a plan for Justin Jefferson.

1235
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: So this game for Kirk Cousins in the Vikings offense

1236
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: is gonna come down to can't Kirk Cousins, while under

1237
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: pressure beat them throwing to his other guys because Bill's

1238
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna bracket Justin Jefferson. He's gonna take Justin Jefferson and

1239
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna put two guys on him and he's gonna

1240
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: try to get him out of the game. And this

1241
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: is one of those offenses where they don't have It's

1242
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: not like the Chiefs back in the day when they

1243
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: had Hill and Kelsey, where you like, if you double

1244
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: Hill then it leaves Kelsey one on one or vice versa.

1245
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: They don't have another guy. So I really think that

1246
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: that Viking this game is very beatable. Now with the Bills.

1247
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: The two things that really stand out now, I think

1248
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: Payer was at practice today, so they might be getting

1249
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: him back. And I know Trey White's been practicing, so

1250
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: they're started building him back up. But that secondary is

1251
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: not the same like that's not their secondary play. And

1252
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: they really started with hide Ployer the two safeties, but

1253
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: also Trey White, that's probably been the best secondary in

1254
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,919
Speaker 1: the league for like two or three years. Now that's

1255
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: not that secondary anymore. You know, they're they're really shorthanded

1256
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: at corner now, to the Patriots have the pieces to

1257
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: exploit it, like, probably not. But when I just look

1258
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 1: at the big picture for Buffalo and they're Super Bowl aspirations,

1259
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: Miami Kansas City, like they don't match up well against

1260
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: those teams. Now. The other thing is is that and

1261
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: I thought Pat Pete was phenomenal at baiting Josh Allen

1262
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: into that game ending interception. There is not a throw

1263
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: on the field that Josh Allen doesn't think he can make, right,

1264
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: Like he thinks he can make every single throw. And

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01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: what teams are really doing against him now because he's

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01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: heard that too, of what teams are doing against him

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01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: now is they're they're baiting him right like they're giving

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01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: him the impression that guys are open so that he'll

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01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: try a throw into a tight window down the field

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01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: and then they're closing. They're closing the window. So there's

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Speaker 1: some of that going on. I think they're you know,

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Speaker 1: we talk about route spacing here a lot. With the Patriots,

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01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: their red zone rout spacing is actually terrible, like Buffalo

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01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: has got an issue in the red zone with their

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01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: routes spacing. So I'm not gonna say the Bills are

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01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: winnable game yet because I need to see the Patriots

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01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: offense over the next two weeks to something that's professional.

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01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: I definitely think that that game on Thanksgiving nights very winnable,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see about the Bills. I think that they

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01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: have some flaws in that roster that are starting to

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01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: come out, especially in the defensive backfield. And I would

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Speaker 1: also just say that Josh Allen needs to be smarter

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01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: with the ball. But with the Vikings, I, like I said,

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01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: I buy their offense especially. I mean Kirk Cousins was

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01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: throwing picks directly to Buffalo, Like right, two guys. He

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01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: threw one of the ugliest picks I've ever seen on

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01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: the second one where he's trying to throw the ball

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Speaker 1: into the flat, and it just you thought the Bills

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01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: defensive back was the intended receiver on the play. So

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Speaker 1: those are the types of quarterbacks in my mind that

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01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: that Bill just eats alive. Yeah, I don't disagree. I'd

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Speaker 1: say one more note on the Bills. It's interesting. Remember

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01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: the game here last year was close. Yeah, like J C.

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01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: Jackson picks that ball off. They would lead in the

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01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. In their last eleven one score games, the

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01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: Bills are two and nine, they're own four and overtime.

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01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: They don't they're front runners. They are. And look they

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01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: can get ahead. And it goes to the red zone

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01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: thing too. Yeah, they can hit, they can They can

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: execute an eighty yard bomb better than anybody else in

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01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: the league. But if you take that away and Josh

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01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: Allen's pass rating to Stefon Diggs is here something astronomicals,

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01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: well a one hundred to everybody else, that's right around.

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01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't check after Sunday, but going into

1305
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,919
Speaker 1: that game, this game, that game only reinforce this point,

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01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: it's around fifty. Yeah, So if you don't let him

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01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 1: throw the ball deep to Stefon Diggs or Gabriel Davis,

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01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: like you said, they don't really figured out in the

1309
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: red zone, they can't defend that. You go back to

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01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: the thirteen seconds against Kansas City, I mean that situation

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01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: they struggled to defend again. I'm not gonna sit here

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01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: and tell you the Patriots definitely gonna beat them. But

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01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: people over the summer talking about the Hills were going

1314
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: to go undefeated in a generational roster and all of that. No, no, no, no,

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01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: no no no, no, no, no no, that's some issues.

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01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. They have their flaws. Yeah,

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01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: and they have their flaws. They don't close out games.

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01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: They don't close out games. They can't close they can't

1319
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: close out drives. That's everything. They have to win from

1320
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: the beginning. They have to win a drive from the beginning.

1321
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: They have to win the game from the beginning. If

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: they have to work for it towards the end, work

1323
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: for it in the red zone, work for it in

1324
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, they can't do it. I think that Dable.

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 1: This is where losing Dable has really hurt. Yeah, because

1326
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: they were good in the red zone. So last year

1327
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: they're good in the red zone last year. This this

1328
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: strategy against against Josh Allen is just to play too

1329
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: high and make them check it down right right, Like

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01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: that's the strategy, and it's you know, quarters, too high

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01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: cover two. Um. They played a lot of like Tampa

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01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: two the Vikings day where they have the middle linebacker Kendricks.

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01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: As an athletic player, he runs the you know the

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: scene or the middle of the middle shoot route. So

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01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 1: they played a lot of too high coverage as everybody

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01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: has against Buffalo, and Dable had him locked in right

1337
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: like Dabele was like, we're not falling for it, Like

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01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna just we're gonna take the slant, We're gonna

1339
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: take the underneath stuff. We got guys that are good

1340
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: with the football in their hands, like they'll make yards

1341
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: after the catch, and yeah, we might have to sustain

1342
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: drives and go the length of the field instead, but

1343
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna be ultra efficient. And when they were in

1344
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: that groove last year against the Patriots in the wildcard

1345
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: round and then against Kansas City where nobody could stop them,

1346
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: that's he was taking profits, right. He was just like,

1347
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: all right, if you're gonna play too deep against me

1348
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: and take away the deep stuff, like I'm fine living

1349
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: under here, Like this is totally fine with me. Now

1350
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: he's he's regressing back into those bad habits of I

1351
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: gotta make the big play, I gotta push the ball

1352
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: down the field and those types of things. You know,

1353
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: on the game ending interception, then we got to wrap

1354
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: the they're trying to They're they're trying to kind of

1355
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: like put the safeties in conflict that they're playing quarters

1356
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: and they have one like deep post and then they

1357
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: have another post like a dino like a double post concept,

1358
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: where they'd have like the inside post is trying to

1359
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 1: take the coverage and that's gonna leave the outside post open.

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01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: I'll leverage, but unfortunately, like the spacing or unfortunately if

1361
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: you're the Patriots, the spacing just wasn't very good. So

1362
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: it's all kind of just became muddy in the middle there,

1363
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: and Patrick Peterson was outside leverage on Gabriel Davis and

1364
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen just thought, I'm gonna throw a bullet. Gabriel

1365
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: Davis is gonna cut inside at the very you know,

1366
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: exactly at the right time, and we got the leverage

1367
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: and we're gonna win this this game. And Pat Peterson

1368
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: just jumped it right. They just undercut the route and

1369
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: picked it off. But those are the types of throws

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01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: that you saw on the Jets tape, you saw on

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: this Vikings tape from Josh Allen where it's just thinks

1372
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: he can make it. Every throw. He thinks every window

1373
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: every he's every windows open, right, like, every windows accessible

1374
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: for him. And if you're the Patriots, if you're the Dolphins,

1375
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: if you're these teams that are going to play the

1376
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: Bills down the stretch, that's what you have to bait

1377
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: him into. By the way, Bills don't have a Division

1378
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: win yet this year. Man, you just got all the

1379
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: ammo against the Bills. I like it. I like it

1380
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: was called crazy over the summer. As a fanboy, it

1381
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: was this. I was that simply for suggesting they might

1382
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: not go twenty one enough. Well, I know in Orchard

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01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: Park in Western New York, all the Bills fans on

1384
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: my on my Twitter timeline, shout out to all of them.

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01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: They're all freaking out. They know that there's flaws on

1386
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: this team. And but we'll see, we'll see what it

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: looks like in a couple of weeks. To Poyer and

1388
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: Tradavious Whiter back then, I think that defense is scary good. Yeah,

1389
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: But if they're not, especially if they're limited, then it

1390
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: could be a different story. But we will be back.

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01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be on Tuesday next week because

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: I am headed to Minnesota on Wednesday, so we won't

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01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: be able to do Wednesday's show for the Thanksgiving game,

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01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 1: so we'll probably be here on Tuesday with you guys

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01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: to break down Patriot's jets to preview the Vikings game

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01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, So we'll see you then. Thanks so much

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01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 1: for listening, and we'll hear from us next week. So

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