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My next 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: guest is the CEO of Commercial Loan Success and their 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: mission is to help small business owners, entrepreneurs, and real 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: estate investors acquire successful commercial funding through their software, educational 38 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: material and other resources. Please work on the Money Making Conversation. 39 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: The CEO of commercial loan success. John Matheson, Well, good 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: morning and happy Monday to everybody. What what what part 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: of the country are you calling in from, John, I'm 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: in lovely sunny ice called Connecticut today. Lord, are you 43 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: you got the ice cold part Downpat? Now? I will 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: say win us southeast of course in a in a 45 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: nice ice storm, some with some heavy snow has started 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: to dominate this part of the country. So I can't 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: point fingers like we're in warm country right now, because 48 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: we're pretty much sisters in chio right now. Sisters, we'll 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: be able to laugh out loud. Well, good, Well, how 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: are you doing, my friend? I'm great, and thanks for 51 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: having me on. Well, thank you, because my show, Money 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: Making Conversation is about providing information and also extend the 53 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: brands of individuals who come on my show about what 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: they bring to the entrepreneurship community. And in my situation, 55 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: what exactly off the bat, I want to just say it. 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: What is actually is commercial lending. So commercial lending is 57 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: where you are securing money for your business or an 58 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: investment property transaction. And in the investment property space, that 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: usually means you're into an apartment building or you're into 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: a commercial building. That has over four units in regular 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: commercial lending, where we go for a business loan, it 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: might need to expand our business, a line of credit, equipment, loan, 63 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: cash flow, any purpose that we might take a business 64 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: credit line to try to improve our business or take 65 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: advantage of an opportunity. Okay, cool, Now here's my my 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: my wife. She's a retired uptometris. So yesterday we was 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: talking and she said, I'm gonna go back to Houston 68 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna open a business. I said, well, how 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: are you gonna fund it? She said, you I go. 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: You gotta get a loan. And the reason I said 71 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: that because I want to make sure she understands the 72 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: ramifications of the profit of law for poor So, uh, 73 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: my wife is listening, you know, and she's gonna be 74 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: mad at me because I'm for her own front street. 75 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: But it's a good lesson because she came to me, 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: and I probably could fund her long because you're my 77 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: wife and my helper, you know. But I felt, from 78 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: a business perspective, that will be a mistake. What are 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: your thoughts, Oh, let's have fun. This is going to 80 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: be fantastic. You're gonna love that, You're gonna love that. Um, 81 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: let me tell you a quick story how our software 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: got started, and then I'm going to connect this back 83 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: to your wife and how you and her are going 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: to be able to use software to determine whether or 85 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: not her business idea is viable for you to lend 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: to lend into it. Right, I mean, how many of 87 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: us out there are either parents or assisting you know, spouses, 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: and you know they come to you and they say, hey, 89 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: invest in my business opportunity, and you say, well, how 90 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: do I know getting paid back? And our software provides 91 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: you with the ability to sanity check that idea before 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: you ever lend to it, as if you were a banker. 93 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: But let's start from how I got into this. So 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like any other entrepreneur out there. I love 95 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: some of the stuff I hear you say about how 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,119 Speaker 1: you know it didn't come easy. I mean, I put 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: pretty thirty dollars into my business when I started it 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: in the late the late eighties. You know, and you know, 99 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: and then you know you can imagine you grow from there, 100 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: and it gets funny because you get to be my 101 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: agement fifties and you start to listen to the things 102 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: that you've done in resume form. You go, gee, I've 103 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: been around that law. But but along the way, I've 104 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: been through three recessions, and primary business was was real 105 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: estate development. And in that process, you can imagine, when 106 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: you're a real estate developer, you become very comfortable with 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: borrowing millions of dollars from commercial banks or private lenders 108 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: the line the way. So but in the in the 109 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: process of that, those recessions change things a lot. And 110 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: the last recession I was coming out of it. It 111 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: was probably a few years remove from the two thousand 112 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: and eight scenario, call it two thousand eleven or twelve, 113 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: and I had a property that my bank wanted me 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: to move off of their books because um, they were 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: just changing portfolio distribution for whatever reason. So I had 116 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: about six months to do it before maturity. And I 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: had been with this bank for like fourteen years, had 118 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: a nice relationship there. So I started to call around 119 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: a different banks and saying, Hey, I've got this awesome 120 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: asset and I need to move it. And I'm getting yeah, 121 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: we're kind of good with what you're telling us, that 122 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: we're not all that motivated to do it right, and 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm staying there. Don't wait a minute. I have track corectord, 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: perfect credit this that you know everything you need to get. 125 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: How come I'm not getting warm fuzzies out there? So 126 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: I start to do what any of us in the 127 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: audience would do as an entrepreneur. I network to a 128 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: resolution and I find commercial relators who who say to me, 129 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: you got to call this guy Dan. Who Dan, just 130 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: a fast forward is my partner now and commercial o success. 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: So fast forward to Dan. He said, They said, connect 132 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: contact Dan if anybody can do what he can. So 133 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I go to call Dan, and Dan's voicemails full and 134 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, isn't this great? The full voice? He 135 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: calls me right back and he says yeah, He goes 136 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: my voicemail number is my my cell phone is one 137 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: digit removed from the Department of Labor office up here. 138 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: So by eight in the morning it's fall I'm like, okay, 139 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: so I get it. So now we're gonna so we're 140 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna have So I start explaining what I have and 141 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: he says, all right, meet me at and we picked 142 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: a local diner to meet at, which at our age, 143 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: neither one of us should be in a diner, you know, 144 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: but but you know, so we're going to the diner 145 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: d and he comes in. So I bring my pro 146 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: forma no similar to what your wife would bring you. 147 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: I bring my numbers on my transaction. It was property, 148 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: so I hadn't come and expense. And Dan flips open 149 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: a laptop and the screen is back. It's facing back 150 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: to me. He says, all right, give me here and 151 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: come and expense numbers, and he starts tapping away and 152 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: he then turns the screen around and there's this great 153 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: big word art go on the screen and I'm looking 154 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: at it, going all right, what does that mean? And 155 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: this is a fairly large transaction. He goes, it means 156 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: you are a go to commercial bank application based on 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: the numbers you gave me. And I said, I don't understand. 158 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: What do you have in there that tells you that? 159 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: And he goes, I have on my own software that 160 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: I've used ever since my my days in commercial bank. 161 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: And I used my own software and I've used it 162 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: to that over a billion dollars of commercial real estate 163 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: and credit line transactions. And what it does is it 164 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: compares your numbers the common commercial bank guidelines and it 165 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: tells me before we ever apply for a bank loan, 166 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: whether or not you're likely a stop or a go 167 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: to proval. Really, now it's changing for me because as 168 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: the entrepreneur inside of me is saying, whoa what is 169 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: he having there? I'm feeling the ankst to get removed 170 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: from my body? Any right? Right? Right? Right? So he 171 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: has is software And now you're the entrepreneur, you're the 172 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: you're the visionary. Right so now you're okay, your wife's listening. 173 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: I know what she's going through. Every single one of 174 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: us since this last session, who says we're going to 175 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: go for any kind of bank capital And let's face it, 176 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: banks are still the best and fairest place for rate 177 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: and terms in this country to get money for your business. 178 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Any one of us going into that process today, the 179 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: best feeling we have is a little bit of trepidation 180 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: all the way to the worst feeling we have, which 181 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: is absolute dread of the process. There's just nobody out 182 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: there who says, hey, I'm really psyched to go for 183 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: a bank own today. Who's worse the bank or the dentist? 184 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: Where would you like to go? Right? So? I mean 185 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: you sit there and you say, all right, so what 186 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: does he have there? Andy? Andy? And so he said, 187 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean it's your software? Because yeah, 188 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: it's my software. I wrote it. I use it for 189 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: my clients. I've placed billions of dollars my clients are 190 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: are you know? Here's just gonna happen. I'm gonna take 191 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: your your information. I'm going to print my one sheet 192 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: of paper, which is the output from my software, distributed 193 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: to the handful of lenders that I know who are 194 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: are will do this and in a couple days you'll 195 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: have a letter of intent and you'll have your transaction funded. 196 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, and that's exactly what happened, but 197 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: at that time I don't know it. So I'm looking 198 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: at him, going, well, but what I understand? What do 199 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: you haven't? And I want that? Hold on, hold on, 200 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: I got all this information, but what what what? What's 201 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: what's over there? Though? What's over there? Did you so 202 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: confident in that's what you're talking about? Yeah? I want 203 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: this on my computer. I want to sit there and 204 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: and and know before I apply if I'm a stopper 205 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: or a bell when. If I'm a stopp it gives 206 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: me corrective action. If I'm a go it tells me 207 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: to connect with confidence to the institution. I mean, think 208 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: of the empowerment. If you're sitting here thinking, hey, they're 209 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna I'm good. I can walk into the bank and 210 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: say I'm I'm here with my transaction. Would you like 211 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: to continue the conversation with me? And that's exactly what's 212 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: happening now across the country with our so where from 213 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: commercial real estate all the way to business owners. Same 214 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: thing that happened with me. So I said that Dan, well, 215 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: do you realize the angst that you relieved from me 216 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: sitting his day, because yeah, it happens all the time. 217 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: People hugged me and Dan is one of the most 218 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: heartfelt entrepreneurship ever me. I mean, this is just a 219 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: guy who wants to have everybody with a business who's 220 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: borrowing to have financial dignity in the process. And so 221 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: so even tributing there. And I said to him, so, 222 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: have you ever thought about, you know, all the people 223 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: out there like me or across the country, and I 224 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: know there's millions of them who would love to have 225 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: the angst relieved in the commercial bank process, and maybe 226 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: we should. Have you ever considered putting this out there 227 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: in the cloud? He says, yeah, I have what I've 228 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: just been so busy in my consultancy, I haven't done it. 229 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: And you know, digital marketing is not my gig. And 230 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: I said, well, it just so happens to be mine. 231 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: How about we consider doing this together and it was great. 232 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Dan was like, yeah, I'd be happy to do him. 233 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: From there it started the journey of where we took 234 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: the software from out of Dan's computer to where now 235 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: it's at Commercial loan Success dot com in the cloud 236 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: where you can use it as somebody who's looking to 237 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: do anything from take bank capital for any reason, to 238 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: be the business loan and sp a loan, or for 239 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: a commercial real estate loan, and you can know that 240 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: you qualified before you ever applied. Now when you started 241 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: breaking this information back to him, because like I said, 242 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: he didn't realize that's how life works. You have a 243 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: you have a visionary, and you have a person who 244 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: creates application. So he created application and production content as 245 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: we say, and then you have this vision to say, 246 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: we can take it to the next level. What was 247 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: this take on it? When you start pitching that, um, 248 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: he loved it. I mean, Dan is a is one 249 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: of the most elegant speakers you'll ever meet too. I 250 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: mean the video to go to the site. You said, 251 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: a great video of you two talking everybody. I'm gonna saying, 252 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna post that on my on my social media. 253 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed it. That's fun. And you know, so 254 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: it's the classic odd couple sitting there because you have 255 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: the banker and Dan, and you have the entrepreneur in me. 256 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: And I'm defending our entrepreneurial side of the table, going hey, look, 257 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: what is it that all of us really want on 258 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: ever lender? How about a level of predictability. I mean, 259 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: until this point the film, you let's say even you 260 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: would think of it's a commercial bank process. It's kind 261 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: of a mystery, right, What is it when you give 262 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: them their numbers? What is it that they're doing to 263 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: determine whether or not you're going to be able to 264 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: get the loan that you're requesting to increase your business? Yeah? Great, okay, John, Oh, 265 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: when we're gonna come right back. I'm on the phone 266 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: talking to the CEO of Commercial Loan Success, John Matheson. 267 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: When he comes back, he's going to really start talking 268 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: to my wife how she can go online. He's giving 269 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: it a tremendous backstory, which is really cool because I 270 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: know when I go on my American Express account, they 271 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: tell me my spending power. You know, with my spending power, 272 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: you also can I can go to my City bank 273 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: and they tell me what my score is, you know, 274 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: when our credit score is. So this is a more 275 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: advanced version pulling all that together to get your commercial loan. 276 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: We're back more. We're back with more money Making Conversation. 277 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: John Matheson, Hi, just with Sean McDonald. Welcome to money 278 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: making Conversation on the phone. Uh glad, this is awesome. 279 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: He's the CEEO Commercial Loan Success. Their mission and Commercial 280 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: Loan Successes to help small business owners, entrepreneurs, and real 281 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: estate investors acquire successful commercial funding through their software, educational 282 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: material and other resources. Please welcome back to money Making Conversation. 283 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: The CEO of Commercial Loan Success John Matheson, How you doing, John? 284 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: You okay? John? Now we've got to set up. Now. 285 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: My wife comes into come to I was in the 286 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: kitchen cooking, you know, I was cooking, and she said 287 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: she said, she's a retired optometris And she says that 288 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking for a place in Houston she's licensed and 289 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: uh and she says, uh, you know, I think I 290 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: found myself. I wanted to like, um, you know, open 291 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: of new business and and I said, who's gonna fund it? 292 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: And she said you And I went, I don't think 293 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: that's a good business move. And then you said, ros Sean, 294 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: that's the conversation we want to talk about. So what'd 295 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: she should do next? Here? Because because because the loaner, 296 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: the loaning guy, that's me on the fence. Sure, hey, listen, 297 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: this is what this is how business to start, right, 298 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it goes all the way back to the 299 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: beginning of business. Somebody in the private community puts money 300 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: into somebody that they know to start a business. The 301 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: wonderful concept. So the question is, how do you know 302 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: that she's a good risk and that you're going to 303 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: get your money back as opposed to just knowing that 304 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: she's your wife. Yes, that would go, that would go. 305 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm removing love from the whole of marriage. I'm moving 306 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: all that from the equation. That's right, right. So we 307 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: are a software and education platform. We are not a 308 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: lender of brokers. We're here to use analytics to determine 309 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: the viability of what can happen when she becomes back 310 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: as a startup, it can be hard to get institutional capital. Now, 311 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: there's plenty of options out there. You can google all 312 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: the options for different money that you can get as 313 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: a startup. But the most common thing that we see 314 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: is the family friend investor that gets things started. So 315 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: when you're on commercial and success dot com and you 316 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: scroll down, you'll find boxes of who are the c 317 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: l S users, and one of them is the family 318 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: and peer to peer lender. And we say a in 319 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: the site, analyze the viability of a friend or family 320 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: members request for you to invest in a business or 321 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: property right. So she goes and she grabs our business 322 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: loan screener. All of our screeners are only a hundred 323 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: forty seven to a hundred dollars each, very affordable way 324 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: to analyze to be able to speak to her private 325 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: lender who happens to be you. She opens it up, 326 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: she puts in her expected income and expenses on our business. 327 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: If she's going to go into business, she's gonna want 328 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: to know what she thinks her income and expenses are. 329 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: And she does it up for and then maybe she says, 330 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: well where should I be in year two, because the 331 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: year two she's she's bankable if she's turning a profit 332 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: because she has history behind her, she has an expertise 333 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: that's got legacy, and she's able to let demonstrate profitability. 334 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: So at that point she could take a commercial bank 335 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: loan to repay you. So the question is, what are 336 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: those numbers really look like? Has she taken the time 337 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: to do those and if not, she probably shut And 338 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: if she hands you a document that says, hey, hubby, 339 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: I just did this based on commercial bank guidelines on 340 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: third party software that I bought to show you that 341 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: my business works, you now have a lending decision, because 342 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: if it's a go, she's lendable at the point in 343 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: time that her numbers actually hit the level that she's 344 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: put him in at. Okay, cool. Now that that's one way. 345 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: That's the that's the family and friend alone now, because 346 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: when you come to me, I'm a much not going 347 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: to repo anything. I'm being like, you know, you know, 348 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: quietly made, quietly made you know, yeah, you don't that 349 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: much choice and quietly mad over there. What's wrong, baby, 350 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: nothing nothing, nothing, ignore my teeth. I'll just grinding. I'm 351 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: just grinding nowhere now. Now the other way is the 352 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: bank how does that work with your software system? Well so, 353 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: and on the bank side, you can imagine if you 354 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: have how how the bank's market for customers today, And 355 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: if you have a commercial person in buying a ten 356 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: unit apartment building or getting a hundred thousand to two 357 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: credit line request on an established business using third party 358 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: software that they fought pre screening themselves determine if they're 359 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: a stop or a go, you can imagine the bankers 360 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: really want to meet that person, right And what's happening 361 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: that now is with our platform, we're creating where you 362 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: can digitally connect to the bankers in your area that 363 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: you know today. It's a download, print, and share you 364 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: It's a one sheet of paper that comes out of 365 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: our software. You download it, you print, and you share 366 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: it with the community banker or a commercial banker of 367 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: your choice in your area. So when you're gonna be 368 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: able to push a button and do that digitally across 369 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: the country to where you are able to present the 370 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: banker with your information and ask them if they'd like 371 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: to connect with you on your loan requests. It's all 372 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: about expedience. We want to expedite the process of lender 373 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: of customers to lender. If you think about what happens 374 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: today for a commercial loan for your wife, she could 375 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: put together any level of documentation on a historical or 376 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: her new business. She walks into a banker, there's a 377 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: wonderful presentation, and what typically occurs is she gets to 378 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: now wait for a response. And we said to each other, 379 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Dan and I, you know we can change that. Bankers 380 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: are very illocal people. They know what numbers they want 381 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: to see coming in to determine if somebody should move 382 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: immediately application. Why don't we just provided with that information 383 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: in a very distilled, concise fashion up front empower The 384 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: entrepreneur feeling is though, hey, I'm good, I know that 385 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: my my numbers are pre screened. I'm gonna go. Let's 386 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: do business. And the banker looks sentences. Yeah. So now 387 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: the banker wants to meet all of our people that 388 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: are coming through. So we're connecting those them now and 389 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: over the next year will continue to open more markets 390 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: for connectivity. And she would be able to that down 391 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: in your area. If you said, you know what, honey, 392 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit shy to the process today, she 393 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: can show you and say, well, guess what, I just 394 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: got a loan from a bank. Don't, don't, don't, I gotta, 395 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: I got a job, don't I'm don't don't don't say 396 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: me short, Yeah, I got I got the funds, I 397 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: got the internal funds. But let's talk about a couple 398 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: of things. CPS and other professional user of software to 399 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: help their business clients. I'll tell you finance, how do 400 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: they do that? How do the CPS and other professionals 401 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: use your software? So it's good stuff in the c 402 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: p A has what for customers business clients, and those 403 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: business clients often will come to the c p A 404 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: and the accounting professional and say, hey, I need a 405 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: bank or from or how do you think I look 406 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: on the numbers for a credit line, or I'd like 407 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: to buy this building as part of my portfolio. It's 408 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: a common conversation with the c p A. And the 409 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 1: c p A is in a position where there's no 410 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: analytics available to determine how the commercial bank thinks, so 411 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: they'll typically if they do anything, they would refer to 412 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: somebody they know in the commercial bank community. Now they're 413 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: able to actually help their clients at a at a 414 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: much more deep level, where they're able to say, hey, 415 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: that software here, I can do analytics for you to 416 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: determine if your stopper go, I have all your numbers. 417 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: Would you like me to run that and you can download, 418 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: print and share or connect into the digital platform with 419 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: a banker. Would you like me to do that for you? 420 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: Or would you like me to provide you with the 421 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: one sheet and you go do it? Or there's the software. 422 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: It's at Commercial and success dot com. Check it out, 423 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: see if it works for me. If it does print 424 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: your one sheet and go to your banker, it could 425 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: be much better conversation than the one that has historically 426 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: been happening. This is really so cool. So so basically 427 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: just walked from my wife through the steps. Okay, so 428 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: what does she go to to get the package to 429 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: be in? This package is hers? Is it forever as 430 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: a one time use? So it's her what it is 431 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: an annual subscription, So she has her own dashboard. It's 432 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: completely confidential. No lender has seen any of her inputs. 433 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: It's just like you would get word or Excel on 434 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: your computer. You are going to commercial and success dot com. 435 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: She navigates to the product page. She's starting a business. 436 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: So she buys the business loan screener and she gets that, 437 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: she gets her user name password, and she goes we 438 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: have a resource center that helps her with videos and 439 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: written tutorials every step of the way. There's tooltips in 440 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: the software. It's so easy to use. It will take 441 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: her five to ten minutes top stent or all any 442 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: information in there that she would need. All this fields 443 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: are all labeled for. And then she hits run analysis 444 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: and the software tells her if she's likely bankable or 445 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: not from the information she put in. If it says no, 446 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: she can go back in and she can tweak that 447 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: info to determine, well, what do I have to do? 448 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: How much more income do I need to get the 449 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: loan that I want? How much less expenses maybe do 450 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: I need? And she can manage that into over time 451 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: as her business matures. When she goes from startup to 452 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: a couple of years to five years, she can now 453 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: completely manage fall of her all of her borrowing one 454 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: dashboard for her business and sanity checked herself and make 455 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: sure that she's not over extending and not taking on 456 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: too much leverage. Ever, I love it because the fact 457 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: that I always people always start what is your business plan? 458 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: What is your business budget? This forces them to do 459 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: that before they enter into your software, which I think 460 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: is really the key to this whole madness and was 461 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: also my key to my hesitation with her not saying 462 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: that she hasn't run a successful business in the past, 463 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: but I'm seen her grinding numbers around the house. No, 464 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm going you know, you know, you know, you know, 465 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: you know you'd be grinding um, you know, you know 466 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: somebody working on a budget. Okay, I see People magazine, 467 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: But well what about the budget though? And so this, 468 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: this is good, This is really good. I got a 469 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: fantastic story for a friend of mine who is sounds 470 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: a lot like her. He is as decorated as you 471 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: can get in and as educated as you can get 472 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: in the health and wellness services business. Starts his own 473 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: business and he is a He's a Ramsey guy. He's 474 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: dead diverse, and I flamed him. Well, I am too 475 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: in my personal ledger. But business is different. You need 476 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: to leverage to grow. It's just part of it. He says. 477 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: I've got so many people I'm able to help here, 478 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: but I need that staff, and I need to get 479 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: an office space, and I need to get some money 480 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: in What do I do? So? I took his numbers, 481 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: put him through our business loan screener, and then gave 482 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: him the output and told him what I felt he 483 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: should be able to get for a credit line. And here, 484 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: from a couple of months go by, I get a 485 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: text from real Love. This text comes in. Now, this 486 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: is a guy in top shape. He's in his fifties 487 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: with ripped abs. He's enviable the sky right, I get. 488 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: I get a text he says, my fat pants are loose. 489 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it, going, what does he mean his 490 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: fat pants are loose? You know? So I call him. 491 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: I said, what the heck is this? He goes, Oh, 492 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't prep you. He goes, that's from 493 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: a client of mine. He goes, I've helped him lose 494 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: so much weight that he's me telling me his fat 495 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: Answer you, he says, John is his bald because of 496 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: your software. Awesome, Hey, John, thank you for calling on 497 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: my show Commercial Success, John matheson. 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