WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Turtle Talk 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.280 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:10.920 My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:14.880 Listener mail. This is Robert Lamb and I'm Seth Nicholas Johnson. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.119 That's right. Uh, the week we're recording this, Joe is 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:23.160 away from from work, uh, doing something non podcasting, and 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.000 so Seth agreed to step in with me here to 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.280 cover a couple of listener mails, but also especially at 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:34.000 the start here to talk a little Ninja Turtles with me. Yes. Um, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:39.680 today's a very momentous occasion. A new TMNT game, very 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.560 very exciting. Yeah, this is Shredder's Revenge, teenage muting Ninja Turtle. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.559 Shredder's Revenge just came out this morning on the day 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:50.839 we're recording. Uh. This is from Tribute Games, and uh, 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.080 let's see go to MU. I believe it is uh 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.480 as opposed to being a Konami game, which is of 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.480 course that's the famous realm of Keenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.360 Arc Beat Him Ups? Now, Rob, have you played any 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:08.240 other games from these developers? Most specifically, have you played 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:13.080 the Scott Pilgrim Beat Him Up to D side scroller? Oh? No, no, 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.840 I I haven't played that one, but I remember when 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.760 that came out. I remember being impressed with the like 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.039 the retro look of that game. It's the same people, 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.559 the same people, which which I think speaks very highly 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.959 of both honestly, because I think both are wonderful games. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:28.760 This game just came out today, but Rob and I 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.160 both have a had a chance to play Shredder's Revenge, 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.560 and um, it's actually really fun because, um, they've made 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.720 some references to their own past game in this. Maybe 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.759 maybe there's more than one, but the main one I've 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.520 noticed is one of the attacks as April O'Neil is 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.880 almost identical to one of the attacks as Ramota Flowers. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:54.160 So it's it's um, if you enjoyed that Scott Pilgrim 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.320 video game from from a while ago, ten years ago, 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.480 I think at this point you're gonna love this one too. Yeah, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.360 so the to take everybody back, so teenage meeting Ninja Turtles. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:05.920 We're not gonna hit everything here, but I guess that 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.000 the basic dates to keep in mind, the comics started 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.320 in eight four, we get the cartoon in eighties seven, 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.919 and in when we get that first Economi arcade beat 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.040 him up. I fondly remember this one. And we've been 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.320 chatting about this one off Mike a lot like this was. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.280 This was seemed like it was everywhere. Maybe it was 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:27.880 it pizza hut uh, And of course it was in 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.880 arcades and this was one of the arcade cabinets that 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.200 it was just a pleasure to hang out around, even 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.799 if you weren't playing, and if you didn't have the 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.480 quarters on you. I have fond memories of watching other 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:43.640 people play it. Yeah, most definitely it's um it felt 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.040 very collaborative in a way that um, I think ultimately 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.120 kind of couch co op has kind of needed to 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.360 fill that place in today's modern world. But especially too, 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.960 I felt like it was a social engagement when you 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.760 were at an arcade, whether by yourself or perhaps I 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.440 got a birthday party or something. You would just hop 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.120 onto these arcades with strangers and you would all suddenly 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.639 have like a common goal that you're all working towards. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:13.200 And uh, it's surprisingly um nostalgic to just just just 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.000 play video games in a public space with strangers. But 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.799 this one, and I gotta say, a very similar game 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:23.440 in in my childhood was the Simpsons side scroller as well. Uh, 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.000 those beat him ups were We're just wonderful for just 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.080 hop on putting a couple of quarters, run out, someone 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.000 else takes your place. It's just just fun times. Yeah, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:36.240 now they were real quarter gobblers for sure, but yeah, 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.800 X Men was another one. Uh. Later on Konami did 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:43.240 an Alien Versus Predator as well. That was fun, and 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.200 I don't think that one's ever been released on a 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.800 on a true console or port. I think there's some 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.160 sort of a Konami Arcade cabinet you can buy now 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.960 and get it that way, which makes me think, well, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.080 maybe there's hope because if they can re license it 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.520 somehow to do that, then surely it could pop up 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.240 on consoles again. And speaking of kind of pulling up 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.480 old licenses, are we going to talk about the Cowabunga collection? 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.080 Oh yeah, now that's that's not out yet, but it's 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.160 coming out soon, right, And this is gonna be all 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:15.200 the Konami games, including the big arcade games, which again 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.479 we have that one nine that was then ported to 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.360 an S in ninete. Then there was Teenage Meeting Jinja 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.160 Turtles Turtles in Time from ninety one, um, and then 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.360 you had some other Konami titles including teenage meeting Ninja 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.520 Turtles Tournament Fighters, where there was like one version that 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.839 came out on any S super in ne S. I 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.039 guess it was one version that came out on Sega 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.120 in ninety three, and I think there wasn't any S 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.880 traditional ports as well, like it was it was everywhere. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.239 I remember that game being on like every console. Everyone 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.919 had an opinion on, everyone tried it out. And also 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.239 that um, each version I think has had a slightly 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:55.599 different roster of characters too. Yeah, it was. I'm not, 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.839 you know, well informed on the process that goes into 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:01.000 these games now much less in but it seems kind 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.360 of weird in retrospectives, like they basically had the same idea, 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.440 but instead of like creating the same game on two consoles, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.320 they created two different variations on the same theme. It was. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.760 It's it's interesting, yeah, yeah, but but all fun. I 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:19.960 I UM, I have very very fond memories of all 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:24.080 of these old TMNT games, even the strange like just 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.920 kind of one off, seeming like disposable whatever games, Like 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.400 there was a game Boy one called Follow the Foot Clan. Oh, 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.720 it's just ingrained in my brain and in my heart. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.839 They all the TMNT games really do have a fond 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.719 place in my memory. Were you were you a turtle 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:42.400 in that one? Or were you like a foot clan 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.280 member you were a turtle? It was the traditional uh 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.359 four turtles, you pick one, you go through. And I 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.039 think this is a very important part of everyone's childhood. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:55.520 Much like today every child knows which um, which Hogwarts 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.880 house they would be in. Back when we were children 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.960 in the eighties, everyone knew which to dole they would be, Uh, Rob, 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.120 which turtle would you be? Had I faced the same 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.480 question when I fired the new game up this morning, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.200 I went. I went right where I would go in 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.920 the old days. I went with Donna Tello, with the 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.440 big staff. I don't know why, but I could just 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.360 I just remember part of me, remember that that's my 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.799 my turtle. That's me as well. Hundreds Uh, Donna Tello 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.720 is my go to turtle. Um. Perhaps we see a 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.240 bit of the intellectual of Donna Tello and we we 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.080 we we strive for that. We go, Hey, he's the 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.680 smart one. I I see myself. I want to be 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.480 an intellectual too. I think I would be the inventor 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.359 amongst the turtles. And also with his bow staff he 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.680 had a very good reach, which is always just just 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.000 a positive as well a good reach, and part of 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:46.920 me wonders if it's okay, it's not a bladed weapon, 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:48.600 so did that have something to do with me being 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.600 drawn to the staff. But then again, the nunchucks are also, 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.479 uh a blunt instrument. So I don't know. But I 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.960 wasn't silly enough to be a Michelangelo as a child, 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.960 or now I I I could pull off being a 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.720 Donna Tello. Maybe on my worst days, I could be 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.719 a Raphael, But I was never a Leonardo. I was 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:10.440 never a Michael Angelo. It just it just wasn't in me. Now, 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:15.000 I don't remember Turtles in Time all that much. Uh So, 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.560 I don't know if you had the same options, but 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.720 in that first beat him up game, it was just 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.240 the Turtles to choose from you. That is correct in 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.960 the Turtles and Time game as well. Yes, I think 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.280 for most of the entire series, up until the fighting, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.160 you could only be the Turtles. But in this new game, 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.760 yeah you can. You can be additional characters, including April O'Neil, 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.720 and you can be Splinter. The second time I played 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.520 the new game, I I did like an online multiplayer 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.080 deal where you can have like six different characters at once. 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.000 I went with Splinter, and he's he's a lot of 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.120 fun in this as well. I did the same. I 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.320 started as Donna Tello, and then I wanted to see 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.240 these other characters, so yeah, I switched to Splinter split. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.440 Splinter has got a lot of a great I guess 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.640 he's got a great range of martial arts tax which 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.280 makes perfect sense for you know, he's their leader, you know. 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.640 And uh. And then also I switched over to April O'Neil, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.880 who is also quite good in this new game. And 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.600 I've heard I have not experienced this yet, but I've 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.160 heard you can play as Casey Jones eventually. Yeah, that 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.000 must be an unlock or something. I'm assuming one of 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.640 the best things I can say about this game too. See. Um, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.120 you know me, rob, I I love music more than anything. 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.320 That's that's my my thing is. I spent all my 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.200 time listening to and talking about and doing music. I 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.720 I host a music podcast, Rusty Needles Record Club. Um 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.920 the um music in this game is so good that 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.880 it makes me do something that I never do. I 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.680 actually have the volume turned up on my game console. Yeah, 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.440 literally one hundred percent of the time when I'm playing 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.400 video games, I mute my game console and I listened 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.280 to the music that I want to listen to. That's 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.560 a hundred percent of the time. It's so good in 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.360 this game that I actually have I don't know, got 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:01.760 gone against my own like, uh instincts, and I'm actually 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:06.040 listening to the game provided soundtrack and it's wonderful. That's 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.120 that's a great point. Yeah. I I often do the 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.959 same thing with video games. I'll play SOFM over it 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.520 and just have the game itself muted. But yeah, with 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:17.040 this one, they've really done a great job creating the 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.120 the feel and the sound of of a nineties arcade game. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.360 And I I can't stress enough just how how how 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.040 good a job they seem to have done with it, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.600 because I've seen other games come out that are kind 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.760 of like a rehash, that are just kind of they're 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.880 they're tapping into the nostalgia, but they're not really doing 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.760 something with it like this game seems to have been. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.520 It seems to be true to that original vibe, but 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.559 they've also updated a little bit. You know, there's sort 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.600 of uh, some of the gameplay elements. I guess make 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.600 it feel more like a modern game without feeling like 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.600 it's you know, gone beyond its roots. I guess I'll 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:52.720 stressed real quick though, this is not an AD. We 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.600 just really like this game. Yeah, yeah, this is not 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.640 paid for or anything. Um, but they exist. I think 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.680 they also got some of the old voice actors in 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.520 there too. Um oh yeah. Really. I don't think they've 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.480 gotten all of them, because I know some have sadly passed, 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:11.640 but I do believe the four Turtles at the very 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.600 least are the original voice actors from the original eighties 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:19.200 animated series, and so great. It just you get that 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.760 instant rush of nostalgia and it's it's wonderful. All right. Well, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.559 as long as I've got you in here talking about 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.120 about the Turtles, Seth, what are your thoughts on the movies? 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.880 I love them. I mean I I grew up through 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.600 all three of them, obviously. Well, and it's funny we 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.560 call them three. I think at this point there's got 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.240 to be at least eight or nine, you know. Oh yeah, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.720 they've been various animated projects over the year, not to 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.880 mention those live action Michael Bay, I forgot about those. Yeah, 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.480 I haven't seen any of those I am. I am 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.760 a purist when it comes to Ninja Turtles. I stopped 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.400 after the nineties. The nineties were the end of Turtles 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.720 for me and um, but the original run, the original 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.280 three I love to death. The first one felt very 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.720 gritty and like, very mature, so I felt like kind 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.440 of like an adult watching it, like you know. And 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.040 then um, Secret of the Us was a lot of 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.239 fun because you know, to my childhood sensibilities, it had vindillies, 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.840 had things like that. And then three three is such 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.440 a strange thing, like I don't know the accuracy behind this. 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.040 This is just like my own vision in my mind 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:28.120 was that some screenwriter went out there and wrote a 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:34.160 a like feudal Japan, like you know, melodrama, and you know, 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.760 almost like Princess Mononoke asked of like you know, warring 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.920 factions and all that kind of stuff. And then someone 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:42.800 was like, oh, well, I can't sell this. Why don't 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.320 you put some Ninja turtles in it? And so they 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.199 just do a pass on this script, and in certain 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:51.319 Ninja turtles in they're traveling through time and being becoming kappa, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.840 you know, these demons that resemble turtles and uh. And 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.320 then somehow Ninja Turtles three came out of that. But 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.480 um no, I I loved the film franchise as a child, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.920 and I've actually gone back and rewatched the first one 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.680 a couple of times as an adult, and I gotta 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.920 say it holds up pretty well. I haven't revisited two 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.640 or three in quite a while, though, how about you. Okay, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.760 I haven't watched the three of them as so I 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.440 don't think I ever saw the third one, but I 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.240 did watch the first two, saw the first one in 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.120 a movie theater as a kid, and uh and and 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.160 loved it at the time. And I've been tempted to 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:31.480 show it to my son, who's now ten, and I think, yeah, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.360 it sounds like it would be be decent to show 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.640 to him. You got the I believe Jim Henson's creature 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.800 shop did the turtle effects. One of the last things 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:44.120 Jim did while he was still alive was was those Turtles. Yeah. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.480 I think he also had some inputs on the Dinosaurs 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:52.120 television sitcom, but I know that premiered after he had 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.840 already passed. But but yeah, Ninja Turtles was one of 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:58.560 Jim Henson's last projects, which is which is fascinating cool. Yeah, 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.400 I remember really digging Shredder in it, because Shredder was 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:05.240 always a cool, cool character I I it was. It's 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.280 weird looking back because at the time when Turtles was big, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.560 I thought I was too old for the the action figures. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.760 And I wasn't, but I but I wanted the action figures, 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.000 so like I really wanted a shred or action figure. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.679 I really wanted a Crane action figure. But um, but 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:23.800 for some reason, I was like, no, I can't. I'm 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.840 not supposed to have action figures anymore. There's definitely like 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.040 a an imaginary line, you know, at all children's minds 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.800 when they crossed beyond childish things, and it's way too early, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.600 like like that line is drawn by the child at 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.640 a very early age to go no, I can no 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.720 longer watch cartoons, I can no longer buy action figures. 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.640 And I think you get over that after you cross 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:51.360 another threshold, like decades later, you're on eBay looking up 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.000 those those action figures that you decided you were too 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.480 old for, and you're like, should I pay a hundred 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.560 and fifty dollars for this? I don't know, I feel 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.120 like I should. Yeah, yeah, now that's Um, I think 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.560 that's the stage of every adult's life, is trying to 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.559 re buy their childhood on eBay. I I know I've 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:12.160 gotten through that stage, so it's it's out there all right. Well, hey, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:13.840 we'd love to hear from anyone out there who has 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:18.640 thoughts about teenage meeting Ninja Turtle games, TV shows, and movies. 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.280 I mean, it's a in comics, it's a it's a 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.240 media empire. There's been so much of it. I don't 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.160 really know my way around anything, aside from some of 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.800 the video games, some of the movies, and of course, uh, 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.000 I guess some of the television series episodes because I 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.760 don't think I ever watched it all in its entirety. There's, um, 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.960 if you play this new game, audience, uh, there's a 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.840 lot of fun references to all of the weird little minutia. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:47.160 I'm I'm very very because well versed in the animated 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.120 series of Ninja Turtles. I own the whole series. I've 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.760 sadly watch it pretty regularly, and um, there's a lot 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.240 of fun little references in the new game Shredder's Revenge 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.520 to the old series. Like here's one of many examples. 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:07.120 There's a lot of unlockables and hidden items hidden throughout 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.960 the stages. You find one and it's Irma. Irma is 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.360 April O'Neil's like best friend that works with her at 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.640 the news station. You find her diary and you can 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.440 hear Irma's voice going, remember that one time I grew 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.760 really really big and it's like that was That was 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.280 an episode of the series where Irma became like, you know, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.520 a giantess and she was like, you know, uh much 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.520 like a Godzilla film rampaging through New York and the 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:34.840 Turtles had to help fix this. That's awesome. Yeah, there's 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.840 there's there's clearly a lot going on visually in on 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.240 each level. There's a lot of cool, funny stuff going 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.000 on in the background. Uh so, yeah, it's a lot 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:44.840 of a lot seemed to have gone into this game. Yeah, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:50.320 not an AD, but if it wasn't that I recommend it. Yeah. Yeah, 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.720 we'll make it fixt your not an AD by not 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.800 telling anybody where they can buy it. That's you're on 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.720 your own. This were an AD, we'd we'd give you 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:08.000 more instruction, right, all right, But this is technically listener mail. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.760 So I do have a couple of listener mail here 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.720 to go through and uh and and Seth is going 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.120 to join me here for this I've got I've got 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.520 one for stuff to blow your mind in one for 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.400 weird house. So we'll start with stuff to blow your mind, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:22.520 all right. This one comes to us from Adam Adam Rights. Hello, 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.880 Robert and Joe. My name is Adam and I'm from Ohio. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.200 I've been listening for two years and I am catching 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.240 up on some of your recent episodes. And I just 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:31.880 found the Cauldron Part one and two. And oh boy, 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.760 I have a great example of a very great cauldron 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:39.760 slash jar. You must see elden Ring Possible two Game 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:41.840 of the Year features one of my favorite characters in 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.520 any video game named Iron Fist Alexander, who is a 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:50.720 glorious giant sentient pot image included below for listeners. Alexander 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.480 has stubby little legs and long arms that he utilizes 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:57.680 for his legendary spin attack. You first encounter Alexander partially 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.520 stuck in the ground, and you help him out by 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.920 knocking him out of the hole. He tells you that 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.720 he is on a journey to be the greatest warrior 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.119 in all the lands. Throughout the game, you find him 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.480 in various wild environments that signify his quest for strength 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.359 and glory. You will later find Alexander inside of a 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.119 volcano because he is attempting to harden his shell in 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.359 order to be a stronger fighter. Spoilers. This epic quest 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.639 line comes to an end very near the final boss 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.040 of the game, where Alexander knows things are coming to 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.400 an end and wishes to fight you, and the bitter 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.040 sweet fight does not end well for him. Side note. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.560 There is also a well hidden, tranquil little town in 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.960 one of the first areas of the game called Jarberg. 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.439 All of the residents of Jarburg are also sentient pots 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.320 from small to giant, possibly suggesting the small pots maybe children. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.720 This is a peaceful town and it is very much 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.760 frowned upon by the Elder Ring community to disrupt their 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.000 way of life. Though this has no scientific, historical cultural relevance, 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:54.760 I'd still wanted to share this wonderful gym of characters 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.040 with you guys. Cheers, Adam, I'm looking at pictures of 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:03.679 Iron Fist Alexander now, and he is beautiful. Yeah uh Now, 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:05.359 I was familiar with this game, I haven't played it. 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.359 I think Joe might have some apologies Joe for for 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.600 jumping ahead and looking at this one. We can always 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.760 come back to this in another listener mail. But Seth, 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.760 have have you played this game? I haven't. I I'm 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.959 in the same boat as you. I've I've heard that 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.159 it's a wonderful game. I've seen people enjoying it in 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:25.240 the world. But man, this this is gorgeous. So many 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:29.600 um images of Iron Fist Alexander on the Internet, and 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:34.000 so many art projects people have made in in um 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:38.480 in tribute to Iron Fist Alexander. My favorite one I'm 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.240 seeing here lots of Etsy stuff. One it looks almost 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.960 like a little chia pet version of him, so growing 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.520 out the top of the cauldron is a nice little 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:52.640 fern and beautiful, beautiful stuff. I'd love to jump into 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.280 this series sometime because everyone who talks about it speaks 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.080 so glowingly of it and and clearly is connecting to 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.439 on such a such deep level. I'd heard that it 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:05.359 had like really weird bosses, and I heard that it 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.600 was really hard, but I didn't know that it had 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.639 any kind of humor to it. So it's I'm actually 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.000 more inspired learning that there's a character like this in 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.280 a town like this in this game. I completely agree. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.160 I've played so much Legend of Zelda and um that 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:24.000 that classically has a lot of humor and frivolity, and 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.440 you know, I guess wonder to it. And I always 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.920 pictured the elden Ring series being kind of like a 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.320 grim dark modern take on that same kind of fantasy 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:37.720 adventure and seeing a creature like this, this feels like 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.080 a Zelda character looking at these images, and you're right, 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.040 it does. It changes my perspective on this series. It 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:45.720 makes me think I need to play it. And I 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.960 will say I this is I think ultimately culturally relevant 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.399 to our discussions here on the show. So thanks for 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:58.320 writing in. All right, this next one is going to 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.760 be a weird house cinema suggests, and um, I guess 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:03.720 both of these have a lot in common. They're both 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:07.000 suggesting bits of media that I haven't checked out. Uh. 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:08.879 This is from a listener by the name of Rob. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:11.080 Rob writes in and says, I think both of you 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.159 all are fans of Jorge Louis Bohees, so you might 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:17.880 enjoy tackling the Alex Cox film Death and the Compass, 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:22.679 starring Peter Boyle and Christopher Eccleston. It's an expanded adaptation 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:25.880 of Boroo short story of the same name, in which 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.159 a detective investigates what appears to be a series of 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:33.520 ritual murders by Hastim. I haven't seen the film in 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.840 a few years, but I recall that it's very weird 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:40.040 in a number of respects narrative structure, dialogue performances, score 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:44.199 by the post punk group Prey for Rain, and superstylized 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:48.000 cinematography incorporating lots of fish Is lenses, blurring effects, and 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.320 so forth. I think it's weird enough for WHC. It's 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.280 certainly an obscure film, and one that is perhaps of 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:59.040 interest only to Alex Cox completest and Bohey enjoyers, since 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.720 it is, to my knowledge, the only feature link adaptation 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:04.239 of a Bohe story. It seems to be available on 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.600 Amazon Prime Video and on DVD. Wonderful. Yeah, thanks for 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.680 writing in about this, Rob. I have not seen this film, 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.920 but I was looking it up a little bit. Um. 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:16.080