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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Milly to Jericho.

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Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Henderson, and happy New Year everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty four. Dude, dude, that's like a sad

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Speaker 1: New Year's horn, a fog horn. Happy New Year, Danielle,

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Millie.

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Speaker 3: Are you looking forward to twenty twenty four since twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three was literally the worst year of our life?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can only look forward. I am so

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Speaker 1: far back. I'm so in the hole that the only

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Speaker 1: places up at this point, so oh my god, And

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Speaker 1: I'm not I mean, I'm excited only because it's so shitty,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I don't know, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: what's excited just means better than garbage right to me

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Speaker 1: at this point. But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's a low bar. It's a low, low fucking bar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I have a few kind of goals. I guess

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask because I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we do the first episode of the New Year every year,

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Speaker 1: and we always talk about this fantastic thing called the

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Speaker 1: uber list that I always make you explain to people

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Speaker 1: because I think it's actually brilliant. So can we talk

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Speaker 1: about the uber lists for this year? Have you started it?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 3: I started it in December. I started the beginning of December.

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Speaker 3: And the uber list is a concept created by the

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Speaker 3: artist and author and Nicole lore low Hr that came

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Speaker 3: to me by way of my friend Kelly Sue d Konnick.

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Speaker 3: They were roommates in college. And it's basically a list

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Speaker 3: of one hundred plus things that you want to accomplish

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Speaker 3: in the year. So the plus part is the number

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Speaker 3: of the year. So this year, I have one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty four things that I want to accomplish in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, right, and they're big.

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Speaker 2: They're little.

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Speaker 3: It's not all attainable. Some of it is very dreamy,

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Speaker 3: some of it is very small. I'm totally freakish about organizations,

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Speaker 3: so I always do categories.

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Speaker 2: But it's just stuff that I feel.

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Speaker 3: Like at the end of the year, if I finish

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Speaker 3: some of it, my year will have been better or

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Speaker 3: my life will have been improved in some way.

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Speaker 1: What is like the average completion rate for you?

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Speaker 3: Would you say for me, it's usually around sixty sixty

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Speaker 3: plus things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good. Actually, that's more than happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not bad.

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Speaker 3: And usually I start out strong and that shit peters

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Speaker 3: the fuck out by like October.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm only really doing it for like ten

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Speaker 2: months out of the.

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Speaker 3: Year, but I start strong, and I think my goal

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Speaker 3: this year, one of my goals this year is to

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Speaker 3: give myself a monthly check in goal so that I

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Speaker 3: can keep up with the Uber list all year. Last year,

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Speaker 3: I lost my list when my computer crash. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I did print it out. I always printed out and

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Speaker 3: put a copy of my journal, but I lost it

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Speaker 3: on the computer and I did not feel like fucking

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Speaker 3: retyping it. So unless I was looking at like my

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Speaker 3: paper journal, I wasn't doing anything. So now, so my

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Speaker 3: goal this year is to get a new computer at

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Speaker 3: some point. Right, Okay, hi on the list. Hi on

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Speaker 3: the list. But I'm also trying to think about, like

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Speaker 3: how to be personally happier because the world is not

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Speaker 3: going to do that for us anymore. Like I don't

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Speaker 3: feel like we can look outside of maybe philosophically we've

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Speaker 3: never been able to look outside of ourselves for happiness.

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Speaker 3: But I think I need to figure out on a

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Speaker 3: I don't think the world is getting better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're in an election year, don't forget God,

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Speaker 1: so you know what that's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Like, how fucking dare you? I did forget? How dare you?

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Speaker 1: Hooray? Fuck?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: We started this podcast in the last election year, I know,

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Speaker 1: so who knows. I mean, we've weathered some storms, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure, but I yeah, I'm with you. I this

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Speaker 1: entire experience of last year of going through unemployment, which

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Speaker 1: it was like, the thing that I realized was that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't just the tactical stress of like figuring out,

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Speaker 1: with my time and that kind of boots on the

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Speaker 1: ground stress of unemployment. It was also a lot of

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Speaker 1: of like mapping of like where that comes from, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that whole experience of being like laid off from my

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Speaker 1: job completely unrooted me, and I hate to admit that

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Speaker 1: in a way, but at the same time, it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, like it completely changed my life, Like it

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Speaker 1: was like a lot of feelings that I didn't know

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Speaker 1: I had a lot of feelings I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: admit that I had. But also like where do I

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Speaker 1: place value? Is that the wrong path? Why had Why

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Speaker 1: had I done that to begin with? Like why this?

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Speaker 1: And why are you so stressed out about money? Why

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Speaker 1: is money happiness in your brain or freedom in your brain?

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Speaker 1: And where does that come from? So it's like a

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Speaker 1: lot of that stuff that's hard that I want. I know,

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Speaker 1: I it really came up, and now I want to

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Speaker 1: try to like figure things out in a different way,

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Speaker 1: Like I want to try to maybe disconnect that money

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Speaker 1: equals happiness thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard.

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Speaker 3: Well because also I think this is probably an unpopular opinion,

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Speaker 3: but I think money does fucking equal happiness. Sorry, yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 3: but money equals freedom and freedom is happiness for most people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what. That's the thing. They don't want you

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Speaker 3: They want you to say that shit because they don't

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Speaker 3: want you to keep trying to get money. And look,

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Speaker 3: I don't think your whole value system of your life

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Speaker 3: should be set up around money. But we cannot deny

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Speaker 3: that in this capitalist, fucking economy, having it is better

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Speaker 3: than not having it.

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Speaker 1: Well, And I again, I don't want to like necessarily

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Speaker 1: like a person of color or something like that, but

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Speaker 1: it's it means more. I think it means more because

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Speaker 1: we traditionally do not have access to capital in the

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Speaker 1: way that other people do.

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Speaker 3: And because we don't have access to capital, we usually

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Speaker 3: don't have access to peace or calm or freedom or

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Speaker 3: self care or anything that comes with it. And that's

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Speaker 3: the thing, Like I don't I'm in the same boat

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Speaker 3: where like I do not make I try not to

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Speaker 3: make money the root of my happiness at all at all.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm happy when I get to see people.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy when I get to create, you know, when

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Speaker 3: I'm able to find time to write. But the only

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Speaker 3: way I'm able to do those things is by having

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Speaker 3: enough money to pay for the things that I need

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Speaker 3: to keep my life going. And I've had to do

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Speaker 3: that what you're talking about, And it's scariest shit to

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Speaker 3: do that disconnect because I kind of you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty frugal, like I have, as you guys know, I've

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Speaker 3: talked about it before. I have a business manager, and

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Speaker 3: she's great. She's this wonderful black woman, and she totally

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Speaker 3: understands where I'm coming from because we kind of grew

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Speaker 3: fears around my life are kind of rooted in not

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Speaker 3: being able to take care of myself. And that's where

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Speaker 3: money comes in, because that's the biggest fear of my

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Speaker 3: life is that I will be dependent on other people

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Speaker 3: for things that they cannot give me. I didn't grow

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Speaker 3: I've had to cultivate all of that myself. And in

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Speaker 3: the past, I did that by having multiple jobs, or

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, all right, if I need more comfort, freedom, sanity, whatever,

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Speaker 3: I'll just get another job. And there are times where

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Speaker 3: I had three or four jobs at once to achieve that.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm in a place.

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Speaker 3: Where I have to be really cognizant of saving because

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Speaker 3: I might work one job a year, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I haven't haven't started working again since the strike ended,

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Speaker 3: so I don't know how the new protocols are going

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Speaker 3: to change our ability to earn. But I basically have

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Speaker 3: to look for a new job every year for you know,

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Speaker 3: these shows that I work on because again longer conversations

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Speaker 3: is not one that is based on stability. Most shows

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Speaker 3: I know my job's going to be secure until everyone

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Speaker 3: to rely on her, my business manager, to help me

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Speaker 3: plan for that because she knows that my biggest fear

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Speaker 3: So I think that you're right, like there does have

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Speaker 3: to be some kind of a divorce between work and happiness,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think it's legitimate in this current iteration

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Speaker 3: of society to divorce money from happiness. And again y'all

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Speaker 3: might hate me, I don't know, but I just don't

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Speaker 3: think that's realistic. And if you don't believe me, talk

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Speaker 3: to a fucking poor person, Like I'll tell you I've been.

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Speaker 2: Poor and it ain't fun at all.

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Speaker 3: Like the stress, the day to day stress that comes

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Speaker 3: with like can I eat?

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Speaker 2: Can I pay my fucking bills?

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Speaker 3: Is my landlord going to kick me out of my

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Speaker 2: Because this is what I can't.

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Speaker 3: Afford, Like this is these are day to day stressors

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Speaker 3: that impact people's health mentally and physically, right yeah, and

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Speaker 3: it's money based, So I don't think you're wrong at all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, and like the thing that I was reminded

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Speaker 1: of pretty quickly when this was all happening is that

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Speaker 1: I have this immigrants narrative in my head about money

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Speaker 1: and value and success. I mean, my whole worth in

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Speaker 1: my family was my ability to keep a job and

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Speaker 1: to earn income. Yep, coupled with the fact that I

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Speaker 1: was like the first woman in my family to graduate

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Speaker 1: high school. Yes, okay, so there was this you know,

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Speaker 1: this sort of like pride in that, right, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: And you know, again, like the idea that I watched

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Speaker 1: all of the women in my family have like little

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Speaker 1: to no education. It meant that they weren't able to

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Speaker 1: They just didn't have choices, right, Yeah, they didn't have independence,

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Speaker 1: didn't have independence from their husbands, they didn't have choices.

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Speaker 1: And I rejected that. Like when I was growing up,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of them coming from other countries and

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Speaker 1: this theme every year. It's about change because duh the

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Speaker 1: New Year. One year was about physical change, physical changes

439
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: like the fly and seconds. One year was about people

440
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: being trapped in younger people's bodies with big and thirteen

441
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: going on thirty. And so this yeah, this year we

442
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, this might be a cool way in

443
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: for this annual tradition. And uh, like I said, I

444
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: had never seen Danielle's movie before.

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Speaker 3: And I truly I had only seen it once and

446
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: the first time I saw it was last year.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I truly. The only part that I know

448
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: that Stamsy's movies so hard is your grandma. Yeah, And

449
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: so I'm working off the reputation of that. If Daniel's

450
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: grandma loves the Saw movies, then they can't be like

451
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: all that bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

453
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 3: Oh, surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise.

454
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

455
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: She used to keep my granddad's ashes on a shelf

456
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: behind her Saw DVDs and now they're in my house

457
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: in a nicer place. But she not only saw the

458
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Speaker 3: Saw movies before I did, but she purchased them on DVDs.

459
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Speaker 1: And holds them with such reverence that they're you know,

460
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Speaker 1: the valuables.

461
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: It's basically absolutely like the most valuable relationship of her

462
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Speaker 3: fucking life, like a fifty plus year marriage.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I to be honest with you, I mean

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Speaker 1: I kind of knew that there were a lot of

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Speaker 1: Saw movies. I guess I didn't realize how many Saw

466
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Speaker 1: movies there were.

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Speaker 2: Bitch me either. I was shocked.

468
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Speaker 3: Our producer, Casey, is also a Saw Stan, which is

469
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Speaker 3: why I'm possibly going to transfer the care of my

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Speaker 3: grandmother to him. I think they get along well. I

471
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: think that he's very caring. He'd have a lot of

472
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: great input for her. They would watch amazing movies together.

473
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: I think it's time I just tap out and for

474
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 3: a minute and just tag team and let Casey tap in.

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Speaker 1: But Casey's the one. Thank you so much, Danielle, thank you.

476
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. That means a lot.

477
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a burden, but it's such a joy,

478
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: such a joy.

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00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: Casey now has power of attorney over your grandmother simply

480
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: because they both enjoy the Saw franchise.

481
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: Just think about that, truly, what better way is there

482
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: to make a match. This is how we should be

483
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 3: making matches in the world, romantic and otherwise. But like

484
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: your family member loves fucking Saw, make someone who loves

485
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 3: Saw and charge of their shit. They will make the

486
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 3: right decisions for you because they know where you're coming from.

487
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: But that's that's how I found out that there were

488
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: ten fucking Saw movies. I don't know where I lost

489
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: the plot or where I stopped paying attention, But this

490
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: past year they released Saw X, which is the tenth

491
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: fucking Saw movie. How many people have been trapped and

492
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: cutting off things? And how many diabolical situations could there

493
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: be beyond this first one?

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to know.

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Speaker 1: Here's my question for you. We haven't even set the

496
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: movie up yet, but I already have fucking questions. So

497
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: I'm so puzzled, but also like impressed almost that, Like,

498
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: these movies make a shit ton of money, yeah, which

499
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: is why they keep making them. Yet they're so badly rated.

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Speaker 1: Yes two at the same time, like, so people don't

501
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: like them, but they keep seeing them, and then they

502
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: keep making more of them. I'm just like, how does

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00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: that work?

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Speaker 3: That is the American condition in capsule, in one fucking sentence,

505
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 3: we don't like it. Here's all our money for it.

506
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: Let's keep doing it, because let me tell you, nobody

507
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: is doing their finest work in my movie this week.

508
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: If it were me, I there's no way to have

509
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: envisioned the success of this franchise or that it would

510
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: even be a franchise. But if it were me when

511
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 3: I acted in this movie, I wouldn't have even put

512
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: it on my fucking resume. I'd have been like, all right,

513
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: I'm doing it for the sag check, goodbye. I'm just

514
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: keeping my sag my sag card active.

515
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: Oh and like, the star of your movie this week

516
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: is somebody that we've talked about on the podcast before.

517
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan, And I was like, he is

518
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: selling it so fucking hard right now. But to what end, Like,

519
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: to what end is this effort going towards?

520
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: I mean, there's at least one actor in this film

521
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Speaker 3: who I would consider royalty like acting. And this felt

522
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: like a oh, you got divorced movie, or Oh, Bernie

523
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: made Off took all your fucking money in an Enron

524
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: scamfron whatever, like a Bernie made Off took all your

525
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: money in a fucking Ponzi scheme Ponzi's And now you're rebuilding.

526
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: That's what it felt like to me. But we're let's

527
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: let's get into it because I also have so much

528
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: to say and I cannot wait to talk.

529
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: About your film.

530
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: Yes, So my movie was released in two thousand and four.

531
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Speaker 3: The screenplay is by Leewan l It was directed by

532
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: James Wand in my movie is saw.

533
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Speaker 1: Who want us to cut through a chance?

534
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: He wants us to cut through a fee?

535
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: I saw saw the first saw that we saw.

536
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Speaker 2: And let me also at this.

537
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: Point tell you that Leewanell, the writer, also plays one

538
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Speaker 3: of the titch like one of the main characters.

539
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: And that was a mistake. Who he's Adam? Oh?

540
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: Hell though? What okay?

541
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

542
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: That I didn't realize that whatsoever? Okay?

543
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: That is that is the hubris of man, not like

544
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: in the hubris of man as a species.

545
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: That is the hubrews of man as an individual.

546
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 3: The hubres of men to write a movie and then

547
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: put themselves in it when they have no business being

548
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: in it.

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Speaker 1: That's the Tarantino effect. Oh, I swear to god. That's

550
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: like people being like, oh I wrote this fucking masterpiece.

551
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: Now I going to be in it and say my

552
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: own words.

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00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: Exactly a mistake, a mistake right off the bat is Lee.

554
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: One L from a foreign land.

555
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

556
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: Really, I don't believe, because I swear to God, this

557
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: entire movie is about people pretending not to have British access.

558
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Lee and L is Australian. Oh shit, oh shit.

559
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: Also, this is how invested I am in my research

560
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: this week.

561
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: I didn't even look that up.

562
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: I looked, I looked it up that he was the actor,

563
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: but I'm like, I don't care beyond that.

564
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't even know he was in the movie,

565
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: So there we go. We've done no research at all.

566
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: Australian the entire time, Like I know you're going to

567
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: set up the film and the plot and everything, but

568
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: the entire time, like him and the other dude that

569
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: he plays against the entire film. I was like, I've

570
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: never heard two motherfuckers pretending to be American in my life.

571
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: It was like and sort of failing at it. So

572
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: it was like they were running a marathon.

573
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: Like you can hear them wheezing, trying to pronounce these

574
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: words without their natural accent.

575
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you bosted, you Bostard, that you're not from America.

576
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 3: Ali Diana.

577
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

578
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: One sentence synopsis, A bored psychopath devises the worst escape

579
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: room of all time?

580
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: Aha, escape room? You think escape rooms proliferated because Saw?

581
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: Is that a research topic?

582
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely? If I were going back to college right now,

583
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: that would be my thesis. That'd be the subject of

584
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: my goddamn thesis.

585
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Do you remember when we did a fucking escape room together?

586
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: I remember, not only did we do an escape room

587
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: on a whim by the way, We're just hanging out

588
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: with some of your friends and like, let's do escape

589
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: room because we walked past one. Yes, we loved it

590
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: so much we did it again immediately after we finished.

591
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was an escape room that one of the

592
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: escape rooms that we did, somebody had to get into

593
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: a fucking two coffin, like an actual coffin, And I

594
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 1: was like, is this illegal? Like why are we doing this?

595
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: And now I'm thinking, oh, it's because of Saw. I

596
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: totally doom. Oh my god.

597
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, We're like, let's do this again.

598
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: And then the second one we're like, oh no, this

599
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: was a mistake. This is too Saw like, this is

600
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: a mistake. So basically the premise of the film there,

601
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: she's two characters Adam the Australian Lee one l and

602
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: doctor Lawrence Gordon, who I will be now from now

603
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: I'm calling Larry played by Carry Always, And Adam wakes

604
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: up in a bathtub in a dark room and there's

605
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: something like glowing and floating around his head and he's

606
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: shouting for help, and also Carrie Elwis is there so

607
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: so many questions right off the bat right, but like

608
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: when the lights come on, it's not any better, But like,

609
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: how how long was this man in this tub breathing underwaters?

610
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: As sensibly what was happened?

611
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: How?

612
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: That was my first question.

613
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: I Mean the movie just starts, it's not even a

614
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: minute in, and I'm like, how long was he in

615
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: that tub?

616
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: He was under fucking water. He wasn't just like floating

617
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: on top.

618
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: He was underwater, So he had to have been put

619
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: there almost immediately, which could have tipped off some of

620
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: the end of the movie for you know, if Adam

621
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: was paying attention. Also, what the fuck is Carrie Always doing?

622
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 3: Like Larry was not shouting even though you can't see

623
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: what's happening. The room was completely dark. Somebody is in

624
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: a fucking tub thrashing around, Like why aren't you yelling.

625
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, I'm just gonna sit here and see

626
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: how this shake's loose. Yeah, silently watching another man thrash

627
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: around in a tub.

628
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: Just listening to a dude thrashing around. Comeing to inside

629
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: of a fucking tub. And Larry's not the first one

630
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: we hear screaming, So I got problems with him right

631
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 3: off the bed. Yeah, but the lights come on, it's

632
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: not any better. Adam gets out of this tub, and

633
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 3: this room is fucking rank. It is like the bathroom

634
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 3: from Candy Man had five babies and then we let

635
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: those five babies devise this room.

636
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: It's like this.

637
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: White tiled nightmare, exposed pipe filth room. And there's a

638
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: dead body in the middle of the floor holding a

639
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: tape recorder in one hand and a gun on the

640
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: other hand, and a pool of blood because it looks

641
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: like he shot himself in the goddamn head.

642
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: And ps.

643
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: You're chained to the wall by your foot, so neither

644
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: one of these two dudes in this room can touch

645
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 3: each other, reach each other, reach most of the things

646
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: in the room. I mean, they're chained up like a

647
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: dog in an ASPCA commercial. We expect the Sarah maclachlin

648
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 3: songs that just come on at any minute in the

649
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: arms of an angel, Can we get these dudes out

650
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: of here? And the other crazy thing about this premise

651
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 3: is that neither one of them knows how or why

652
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: they are in this room. So Adam says, like, I

653
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: went to bed in my shithole apartment and I woke

654
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: up in an actual shithole. So at the beginning of

655
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 3: the film, we're set with questioning who are these people,

656
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: why are they here? They don't know each other, so

657
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: we're kind of learning about them and flashback. So what

658
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 3: we learn about doctor Lawrence Gordon Larry is again right away,

659
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't trust him because Adam is in a bathtub,

660
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: like he's like human bathtub gin and Larry ain't saying shit.

661
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: So what we find out is, you know, we're kind

662
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 2: of with them for a few minutes.

663
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: Adam reaches in his pocket and there's a cassette tape

664
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: in his pocket. Larry reaches in his pocket and there's

665
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: also a cassette tape, but it's in an envelope that

666
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: contains a bullet and a key, and the key does nothing,

667
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: It doesn't open their little chains. So the first issue

668
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 3: is that they can't reach the tape recorder that will

669
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: play these tapes. So Adam takes the plug out of

670
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: the bath and uses that with his shirt to kind

671
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: of reach the tape recorder and the tape. When he

672
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: finally gets to play it, his tape says, Hey, you

673
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: might be in the room that you die in, but

674
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do about it?

675
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: You apathetic shithead.

676
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: It's basically just reading them for filth, Like he's not

677
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 3: in a bad enough situation.

678
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you might die.

679
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: Bye, And Larry, he plays his tape finally, and his

680
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: tape says, this is a wake up call.

681
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: It's your turn to be the cause of death.

682
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: The aim is to kill Adam, and the ways to

683
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: do that are hidden all around you.

684
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: Also X marks the spot.

685
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 3: And also, if you don't kill him by six o'clock,

686
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to kill your whole family and leave you

687
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 3: in this room to rot.

688
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: And this is kind of masked voice.

689
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: So Larry is a doctor, he's a surgeon, and this voice,

690
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 3: this this tape is like way too much information. Like

691
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: if if I'm waking up locked in a room, I

692
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: just want the long and short of it. He's like

693
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: uh ps X marks the spot like, don't give me

694
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: a fucking riddle.

695
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I think you know my feelings on this based

696
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: on the episode we did about seven to seven to seven.

697
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: I'll right it off the bat when they rip those

698
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: envelopes open. And then they did this entire movie is

699
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: about two men who are trying to throw things at

700
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: each other from across the room. It's so annoying, and

701
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: so then they're like, throw me your tape. No, I

702
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 1: don't want to break the tape recorder. Let's play the tapes.

703
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you get the creepy

704
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: guy voice that's like, oh, welcome to my game, Welcome

705
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: to my riddle, and I'm like another one of these

706
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: motherfuckers again, one of these like Rube Goldberg murder guys.

707
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't need the Rube Goldberg machines.

708
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: Just kill me or tell me how to kill someone

709
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: and let me spend the movie making that decision.

710
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: And then there's the pump uncircumstanced of the guy that's like, ha, welcome.

711
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: You have one choice. You need to make it by

712
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: a certain time because I have to teach you a

713
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: lesson about a thing that I'm mad about.

714
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, I could have solved this

715
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: in therapy, but instead I turned to murder, straight up murder.

716
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

717
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: And then at the end of the tape there's this

718
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: whisper that's like follow your heart, and I'm like, what's

719
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 3: a fuck now You're adding whisper to this weird voice

720
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: and ps, it's a directive, of course, because there's a

721
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: heart made out of shit on the back of a

722
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 3: toilet tank.

723
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: Oh lord.

724
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: And Adam, who is already pissing me off because he's

725
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: coming at this.

726
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: His approach to this is just bravado and anger.

727
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: Yes, Adam reaches in the toilet first, and I'm like,

728
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: why are you not?

729
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: It says follow your heart, doesn't say follow.

730
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: The dank bowl of shit filled with like giardia, don't.

731
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: Follow the doodle. I was like, dude, you can't put me.

732
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: You can't put me in that situation because I'd be like,

733
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: guess what, my hand's not going in that thing. I'll

734
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: just fucking die with this Jacob Marley cuff around my ankle.

735
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm just fucking dying here. You don't even have to

736
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: shoot me. I am not putting my hand in the

737
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: toilet movies over one franchise one hundred percent.

738
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm not putting my hand in my own fucking toilet,

739
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,959
Speaker 3: and I think that.

740
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: Thing once a week. If I ever drop anything in

741
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: the toilet is gone.

742
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 3: I don't even care if it's like my grandma's ashes

743
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 3: in a necklace, like it's gone. I'm not that toilet

744
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: is now out of use for me forever, and that

745
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: thing is gone.

746
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't care if I drop the Hope diamond my

747
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: own toilet. If you don't want me to solve a riddle,

748
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: put the answer to the riddle in a toilet.

749
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 3: Of absolutely in or near a toilet. I'm not reaching

750
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 3: behind a toilet. I'm not reaching in a tank, because

751
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: that's eventually what these motherfuckers have to do. So Adam

752
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 3: reaches in the tank and he's like, oh, why didn't

753
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 3: I do this first? It's like, yeah, because you're fueled

754
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: by anger and bravado, so you don't think straight. So

755
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 3: he reaches in and there's a black plastic bag in there,

756
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 3: and it has two saws in it, two of those

757
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 3: little but it's not like a real like cartoon saw,

758
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: like the kind you can play music on if you

759
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: like balance it on your knee. It's like these two

760
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: little hack saws in there, and it's too flimsy to

761
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: cut through the chain or the lock. But I will

762
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: say they only tried for ten seconds each. I would

763
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: literally die trying to cut through that chain with that hacksaw.

764
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: I would work until that blade was dull. But they

765
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: spend ten seconds.

766
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: They gave up real easy. Actually, I think one of

767
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: them busts at one point. But then he's like, oh fuck.

768
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, you know what, dude, You're not cut

769
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: out for this. You got to play the long game,

770
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: thank you. Don't you know the serial killer method?

771
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: Don't they do that real quick? He already gave.

772
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: You a clock.

773
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: You got to play through the clock like a fucking

774
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: hockey game.

775
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

776
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: So Lawrence, maybe because he's a surgeon, maybe because he's

777
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: a psycho, maybe because we don't trust him and he

778
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 3: could be the killer for all we know at this point,

779
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: because that's also something that's introduced into this film for

780
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: me instantly, is that one of these two dudes in

781
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: the room could be the architect of this because.

782
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: We don't know them.

783
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: We don't know, but Larry's like, oh, oh damn, he

784
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: wants us to cut through our feet. And also because

785
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: he wants us to cut through our feet, I know

786
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: who might be doing this.

787
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 2: And you're like, what the fuck?

788
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 3: So we got to backtrack and we got to get

789
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: through some history. And the history is where Danny Glover

790
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: enters the scene as Detective David Teppo.

791
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: And this was definitely my.

792
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: Like, oh, you got divorced, your children, your grandchildren need

793
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 3: to go to college like en Ron, Bernie made off.

794
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: Something happened that Danny Glover said yes.

795
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: To this, and.

796
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: Like you live in Texas in your your lights are

797
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: going off all.

798
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: The time in the winter.

799
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: I love that we've connected Danny Glovery to Enron. What

800
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: do you remember when Kevin Bacon got Bernie madeoff?

801
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: Like this shit happens, y'all wait, start making decisions.

802
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: Danny Glover was working at ed Ron and his lost

803
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: his retirement fund. He now has to do the sub.

804
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 2: He tried method acting. He worked at Enron for a smooth.

805
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 3: Ten years and now he's doing saw the residual crying right.

806
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: There.

807
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: Residuals on the lethal weapon movies dried up after mel

808
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: Gibson went fucking crazy and started saying the most racist,

809
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: misogynistic shit. Ever, when he was arrested for being a

810
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: drunk bitch, which a lot of people forget, which is

811
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: why I'm saying this with such venom. I cannot believe

812
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: that motherfucker's still allowed to make movies. If you don't

813
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: believe me, go listen to his tirade.

814
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the lead.

815
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: The weapon checks dried up and Danny Glover went to

816
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: work for Enron and then shit went bust, and now

817
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: he's in a Saw movie and you're like, sir, you

818
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: are royalty, You're part of our childhood.

819
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: You have done amazing, amazing films.

820
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, And look he's trying his hardest in

821
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: this movie.

822
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not bad.

823
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 3: To me, He's not bad in this movie through any

824
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 3: fault of his own, nor is Carry Elways, nor any

825
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: of the actors.

826
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say I would argue that Carrie Elwis

827
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: is too good for this movie. Like, I think he's

828
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: doing some fucking Shakespearean level tragedy, anguish shit, And I'm like,

829
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: you realize you're in the doodoo room. Like it's not

830
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: that serious, but you know.

831
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: Whatever, They're all in different movies.

832
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 3: They're all in different movies, and their acting levels are

833
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: far beyond what this deserves. Absolutely, But we meet detective

834
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: David Tap and we meet his partner played by Ken Leung,

835
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: Detective Stephen Singh, who's also an amazing actor, and they're

836
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: like at the scene of a crime. And what we're

837
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 3: finding out through their backstory and how Larry gets tied

838
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 3: into this is there's a serial killer on the loose.

839
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: They're calling him the Jigsaw Killer because he cuts a

840
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: puzzle piece out of the skin of his victims and

841
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 3: all of the ways that he's killed people or devised

842
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: for people to kill themselves because he he that's the

843
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: fucking tip of the hat. And this one he's not

844
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: actually a killer. He just makes people kill themselves.

845
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: What a smart guy, what a mastermind criminal.

846
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 3: If they catch him, they can't even prosecute him, probably

847
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: because he didn't even do anything.

848
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: He didn't touch him or anything.

849
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm so exhausted by the smart serial killer.

850
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you to see it, Like, oh, Corray,

851
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: but the.

852
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: Jigsaw, the iron Chic shows up, like what the fuck

853
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: Coco Beware? I would be way more impressed if Jigsaw

854
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: ended up being Coco Beware And he comes in flapping

855
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: his arms with a fucking parrot on his shoulder.

856
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: I swear to god, you and I have done so

857
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: many smart serial killer movies in the past, like a

858
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: couple months. Why do we do this to ourselves? I

859
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea. We need to go

860
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 1: back to those days of leather face, just like fucking

861
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: oath killers with no brains, just clubbing people across the

862
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: fucking head like an oath killer.

863
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 3: Also, I have got to stop mentioning Cooco bey Ware.

864
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: Our audience has no idea what I'm fucking.

865
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: We gotta get him on the Is he dad? And

866
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: we gotta get my HoTT He's better not be Dad?

867
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? I would be so upset, Yo,

868
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Coco reach out. I saw gmail dot com.

869
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: We love you.

870
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: We feel like that there's a generation of people that

871
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: need to know who you are.

872
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: Because I mentioned you at least once a month.

873
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: There's probably like at least ten episodes. That's where he

874
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: talked about Coco, Beware.

875
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 2: Easy Easy, and Junkyard Dog.

876
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: If you're out there fucking hit me up any eighties

877
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: WWF wrestler hit us up.

878
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm legit crying this entire episode I'm just legit crying.

879
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: Well, get ready to full on weep, because let me

880
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: tell you more about Jack Saw. This motherfucker who doesn't

881
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 3: actually kill people, he makes them kill themselves, has a

882
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: tape recorder budget that could rival the goddamn Pentagon. This

883
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 3: man is leaving tape recorders next to his victims. They

884
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 3: wake up in a shockingly disgusting situation, and he's like,

885
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: what's up.

886
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: It's me.

887
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: Here's what you gotta do to survive. Also, there's no

888
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 2: way you're gonna fucking survive. So the first.

889
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: Time we see it again, Detective Tap, Detective Sing, they're

890
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: on the scene of this man who was hanging in

891
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: a room full of barbed wire because he had to

892
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: crawl through it to survive, and the door was on

893
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: a timer and he was given two hours and if

894
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: he doesn't crawl through the barbed wire, poisons gonna.

895
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: Fill the room.

896
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: And I'm like, just kill them.

897
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: Stop spending your time and money on tape recorders and

898
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: TVs and all kinds of shit.

899
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like staple in the air fresheners to

900
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: the fucking ceiling. It's like you're burning up all this

901
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: time on these details.

902
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 2: You know, exactly.

903
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: You're just trying to show off to someone who's never

904
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 3: gonna appreciate it because you're killing them. They're gonna fucking die.

905
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: And the cops are not impressed, they're annoyed. They're like,

906
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: are you fucking serious? This is when you deal with

907
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: fucking jigsaw puzzles and hanging in barbed wire and people

908
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: cutting their goddamn stomach so deep that they're in septic shock, and.

909
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: Good God. Then we have.

910
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: Another example of this dude who was given a slow

911
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 3: acting poison and the antidote was in the safe, and

912
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: there's a candle on top of the safe, and there's

913
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: a million numbers on the fucking wall like that Jim

914
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: Carrey movie number twenty three, and he has to crawl

915
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: over broken glass to try to figure out the goddamn code,

916
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: and oops, there's also a bunch of flammable shit smeared

917
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: all over your skin. So watch that candle, and Jigsaw

918
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: had a fucking hole drilled in the wall so we

919
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: could watch this one like a fucking perb and there's

920
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: another tape recorder.

921
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: This guy's budget is insane.

922
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: The slow acting poison really puts it over the top

923
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: for me. I'm exhausted.

924
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: I'm exhausted, yeah, because you're like, all right, so if

925
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: you put the guy in the cage, did you then

926
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 3: spend an hour stringing up the barbed wire, because that

927
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: means there's a door to get out near him for

928
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 3: you to get him in there, or you had to

929
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 3: spend all this time stringing up barbed wire. That doesn't

930
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: make any sense. Mark with his slow acting poison, I'm

931
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: just envisioning someone like just smearing vasiline over the body

932
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 3: of a person who's knocked out, Like that doesn't seem

933
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: right to me either, Like, how are you timing this?

934
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: How are you timing this slow acting poison with which

935
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: isn't knocking them out? There's something else that's knocking them

936
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 3: out so they can wake up in this horror show. Yes,

937
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: and then you're just like, let me just rub some

938
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 3: vasoline on your armpits. Let me get some fucking flammable

939
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 3: goo and just rub it on your feet real quick,

940
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: like fuck you, Jigsaw, this is some shit.

941
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: This dude is pissed off, This dude is angry at

942
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: the world.

943
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: The last victim who actually survived by doing something so fucked.

944
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: Her name is Amanda and she has all these scars

945
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: around her mouth because she was strapped into the most.

946
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: Fucked up iron maiden cage around her face.

947
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 3: And she gets to actually see the embodiment of Jigsaw

948
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 3: when this goddamn doll pops up on a TV screen

949
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: and is like got red eyes and a white face

950
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: and red swirls painted on its cheeks, and the dolls

951
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 3: like there's a device hooked onto your jaw. It's like

952
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: a reverse bear trap, and there's a key in the

953
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 3: stomach of your cell mate who's dead, who's dead on

954
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 3: the ground next to you.

955
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: So if you get the key and open it, then

956
00:49:58,520 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 2: you'll be fine.

957
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: If not, this fucking cage is going to pull your

958
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: mouth apart. Like this is the embodiment of fifteen year

959
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 3: old kids. It's study hall, fitt year old boys at

960
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: study hall being like, you know, who'd be cool if

961
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: we did this fucking reverse bear trap on the people

962
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,439
Speaker 3: that are fucking bullying us? Like this could have gone

963
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: one way or another. Yeah, I think the people who

964
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: made this movie could have been serial killers in their

965
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: own right or actual creative writers that they became. So

966
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: I'm glad they went this way, but I'm seeing a

967
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: lot of like the fifteen year old boy represented in

968
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 3: this film.

969
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh.

970
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So Amanda gets out because she she goes to

971
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: the dead body and she's like, let me get this

972
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: fucking key and she picks up a knife.

973
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, the guy's not actually dead, he's.

974
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 3: Just knocked out by this whatever knockout poison this fucking Jigsaw.

975
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: Killer has in gallons apparently.

976
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 3: So she stabs the dude in the stomach, has to

977
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: literally reach in his stomach lining to get the key.

978
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: She pulls it off of her head.

979
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: That's not the end of it, because then this fucking

980
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 3: puppet doll comes in on a tricycle like a Victorian

981
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: doll child and is like, oh you got a wait

982
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: this time blah blah blah.

983
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: I hope you appreciate life. And you're like, are you serious?

984
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: Is this some like this puppet doll is trying to

985
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: be like some Dalai Lama shit the puppet.

986
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Did they need the puppet too?

987
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 3: The tricycle kills me. The tricycle kills me. You don't

988
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: need that shit.

989
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: Need that as a writer, as a screenwriter, make it

990
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: make sense to me. I'm like, there is so much

991
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: going on in this film. There's a creepy voice is

992
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: fine enough. The creepy voice on like the handheld lecture

993
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: hall tape recorder is fine. Do we need a physical

994
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: manifestation by way of a fucking doll with those giant cheeks?

995
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: Like?

996
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 2: Well, so, does that make it scarier? Because no?

997
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: For me, if I just ripped through a man's stomach

998
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 3: while he was alive, that puppet doll ain't shit to me.

999
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm annoyed that this is the representation you said. You

1000
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: can't even face me and tell me I did a

1001
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 3: good job after I got out of your fucking murder machine. Yeah.

1002
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: No, I think what I'm figuring out about myself speaking

1003
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: of self discovery, is that I'm just really not into

1004
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: the maximalist details of some of these serial killers, all

1005
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: of these little details, all these little koutremont. I'm like, no,

1006
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: sometimes less is more. Sometimes less is more. You don't

1007
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: need the puppet if you got the creepy voice and

1008
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: the tape recorders and the poison and this, and.

1009
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: As we discover later, we also have the actual killer

1010
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: dressed in a fucking eyes wide shut cloak like pick

1011
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: a goddamn lane. I don't want to be murdered in

1012
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: a way that feels like a social studies test or

1013
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: like a fucking algebra test, like pick a fucking lane. So,

1014
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: because all this happens, there's a pen light that's found

1015
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: at one of the scenes of the murder suicides and

1016
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 3: it has Larry's prints on it.

1017
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: So he's questioned by the police and like.

1018
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 3: All right, we're you know, you know, your alibi checks out,

1019
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: but listen to Amanda story.

1020
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: Maybe it'll tip you off.

1021
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: So he kind of knows about this killer because he

1022
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: was questioned as a suspect.

1023
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 2: And we also in that time.

1024
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 3: Meet see we get to see Larry at work like

1025
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: he's on the job and he's, you know, kind of

1026
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: teaching students, and this orderly comes by and kind of

1027
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: chimes in with information about the patient that he's talking about.

1028
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 3: And let me just tell you, you know instantly that

1029
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: this guy is somehow involved in this because he he

1030
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 3: is one of those actors that just has one of

1031
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: those faces I'm talking about Michael Emerson. He plays this

1032
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 3: character named Zep Hindle, and he has the eyes of

1033
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 3: a person.

1034
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 2: Who is involved in a murder.

1035
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: Yeap, just saying so, even without knowing more than this

1036
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: guy's an orderly You're like, he's in it somehow, he's

1037
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: the killer or he's in it.

1038
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is the king of that creepy janitor role

1039
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: like whatever, whatever the the role is, was like the

1040
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: creepy co worker but a Jane or something like. He's

1041
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: just always that person.

1042
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: Completely, and I'm sure he's truly lovely and wonderful, but

1043
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: he genuinely has one of those faces.

1044
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: So I'm like, this guy's in on it.

1045
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 3: And we're back in the Dodoo room and Larry is

1046
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 3: showing Adam pictures of his family and he's like, oh,

1047
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: my family, and like here's you know, here, look at

1048
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: my wallet, because he's still carrying a wallet full of photos.

1049
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: This is apparently taking place on September tenth of two

1050
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 3: thousand and one, which Casey told us before we started recording.

1051
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: If you look at the phone that comes up later

1052
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: in the film, it says nine ten oh one, So

1053
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: this is a time when people still carried wallets with

1054
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: photos of their family in it. And he's showing Adam like,

1055
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: oh my god, my poor babies, Ally and Diana yea,

1056
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: And Adam's kind of looking through the wallet and he

1057
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: sees Larry's like, oh yeah, flip flip to the next picture,

1058
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 3: you'll see a picture of my wife, and he does,

1059
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 3: but it's not a picture of his wife. It's a

1060
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 3: picture of his wife and child tied up with a

1061
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: message on the back that says, sometimes you see more

1062
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: with your eyes closed, because we're not gonna keep going

1063
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: with this goddamn charade. Nothing is set in stone.

1064
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1065
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 3: And he keeps it from Larry, so you're like, ooh,

1066
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: there's like this cat and mouse thing happening where Adam's

1067
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 3: keeping information from Larry and Larry's keeping information from Adam.

1068
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: And oh my god.

1069
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 3: But then we pull back and realize, oh, the orderly

1070
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 3: is actually the one holding Larry's family hostage.

1071
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: He is the killer after all. Possibly and Danny Glover.

1072
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 3: By the way, Detective Tap is across the street watching

1073
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: the apartment because he never thought that Larry was innocent

1074
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 3: and the Jigsaw killer has now made him crazy, right, so.

1075
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: He's a man obsessed.

1076
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: He's an obsessed man. Continuing this theme of too much

1077
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: is happening. The way he becomes obsessed is that he

1078
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: and his partner triangulate where Amanda was based on a

1079
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: fire alarm and a gang sign and then they go

1080
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: to investigate with zero backup, and they actually find Jigsaw's Layer,

1081
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 3: which of course is booby trapped to High Heaven, and

1082
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: there's a there's a tiny.

1083
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: Model of the Dodoo room in there, and they're like,

1084
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 2: what the fuck is this?

1085
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: Is he like doing? Is he doing miniatures? Is he

1086
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: like in the pandemic? This is how he's getting through

1087
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 3: some tough times.

1088
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna build a miniature of the Dodoo room.

1089
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put these dudes in. That's how much I

1090
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: love my ideas. That's how much I love my ideas

1091
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: as a serial killer.

1092
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: And also, how is he getting the do How is

1093
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 3: he renting the Dodoo room? Is he renting the barbedier

1094
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: cage room? Is he renting the room where he blit

1095
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: someone on fire? Where is this man's financial resources come from?

1096
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 3: This is just like when we were talking about the

1097
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: top of the episode. You don't get to become the

1098
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 3: serial killer of your dreams without an investor.

1099
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: Where does he find the time, the money. It's it's wild,

1100
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: It's wild how people live.

1101
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely so. This the room is booby trapped.

1102
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: There's fucking tiny models of all his murder plans, and

1103
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,479
Speaker 3: there's also a dude under a blanket strapped into a chair.

1104
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: So Jigsaw comes in and he's wearing his eyes wide

1105
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: shut cape and this dude is like a test subject.

1106
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: He's like, let me try out my tools on.

1107
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: You, and Tap and Sing jump out and they're like, ha,

1108
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 3: we gotcha, and Jigsaw's like, fuck you, you don't. He steps

1109
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: on a button and activates a double sided brain drill that.

1110
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, you can, you can open it.

1111
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: There's a key in the box and Sing of course

1112
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: can't do it because there's a hundred fucking keys on

1113
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: this key chain like a Scooby Doo episode. Tap is

1114
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna I'm gonna chase the dude. You get

1115
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: the guy with the keys and sings like yeah, great,

1116
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: great trade off.

1117
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: Thanks.

1118
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: He goes after Jigsaw, who is.

1119
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: Kneeling down, and then just like pops out a blade

1120
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 3: out of his fucking arm and slices TAP's throat, and

1121
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 3: let me tell you, Danny Glover is gurgling to high heaven.

1122
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: He is really trying to make a meal out of

1123
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 3: this and give this movie something because he's not exactly dying,

1124
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: but he ain't well, and he's gurgling and crawling and

1125
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: gurgling and crawling.

1126
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: Yo. When they showed what they try positions from that

1127
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: to like Danny Glover now with the tiny scar running

1128
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: across the neck, Like remember when that. I was like, betch,

1129
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: you were halfway to decapitation and you know it. The

1130
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: fact that they pulled back and be like, oh, it's

1131
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: just a now, it's just a remembrance. It's just a

1132
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: tiny scar run a choker necklace folds of his neck.

1133
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, his head was coming off.

1134
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: He even looked like a pezz dispense.

1135
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: Did that go from that? Today?

1136
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 3: He looks like a peas dispenser. A choker necklace scar

1137
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: is not gonna do it. A nineties choker necklace, not

1138
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: the modern choker necklace the nineties where we used to

1139
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 3: tie like leather shoe strings around our neck.

1140
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: They ain't gonna do it.

1141
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 3: So he's gurgling and crawling and things like oh my god.

1142
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: Like Also, we never find out what happens to the

1143
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: guy with the head drill, or maybe I missed that part,

1144
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 3: but I feel like he just gets his head drilled

1145
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: to ribbons.

1146
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: Because sing runs away after Jigsaw.

1147
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: He like no, he singh, shoots the drill bit. But

1148
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: then I don't know what happens beyond that, right, we

1149
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot going on, there's.

1150
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 3: A lot of there's too much going on, too much,

1151
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: so things chasing after Jigsaw. Oops, he runs into a

1152
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: fucking booby trap, which is in the form of a

1153
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 3: fishing line tied across the walkway.

1154
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: Whoops, that is attached.

1155
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: To eight shotguns that literally blow like pointing down above him,

1156
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: that blow his head off. They like blow his head

1157
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: through his body.

1158
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: Jigsaw is doing too fucking much.

1159
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: It's truly insane, like truly so.

1160
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: And guess what, We're not even close to the end

1161
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: of this movie. And I'm gonna try to wrap it up.

1162
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to go faster, but we're not. I

1163
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: just need to see how insanely complicated.

1164
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: This movie is.

1165
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

1166
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 2: So we're back in the Doodo room.

1167
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: The lights.

1168
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 3: They turn the lights off and there's an X on

1169
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: the wall. They're like, oh my god, the lights must

1170
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: have charged it. Because fucking Jigsaw is into solar energy.

1171
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck is going on. Jigsaw

1172
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: sells solar panels in his part time and like what.

1173
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: He was at Enron? No, that's sitting level. How's any

1174
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: lover who works at Enron? That's the line we're putting

1175
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: out into the world.

1176
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: So they bust through the tiles and there's a box inside,

1177
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh.

1178
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: This is great.

1179
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: There's a box in here, and I'm like how at

1180
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: this point can you think anything.

1181
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: That happens in this room is going to be good news?

1182
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: But there's a cell phone in it, and a cigarette

1183
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 3: and a lighter and a note, because again, we can't

1184
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: just have one thing, it has to be five things.

1185
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 3: The cigarette is harmless, but there's a note, and the

1186
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 3: note says like, oh, you don't need a gun to

1187
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 3: kill Adam. Also, this phone doesn't work. It only gets

1188
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 3: calls in and I'm like what.

1189
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: And there's no way that phone, that fucking two thousand

1190
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: and one Motorola would have kept a charge for however long,

1191
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: because think about it, he has to put the phone

1192
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: in that thing drug. Both these dudes chain them up

1193
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: in the doodoo room, wait for them to come out

1194
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: of their dream or bathtub or whatever. Then there's a

1195
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: lot of activity before they actually find the phone and

1196
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, to tell me that this Motorola two

1197
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: in one version that only makes outgoing calls is not

1198
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: on a bar like this. This cell phone would be dead, okay.

1199
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 3: It would have been dead by the time they reached

1200
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: the shit heart on the back of the toilet tank.

1201
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 3: That thing would have been dead by the time that

1202
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: motherfucker he popped out of that bathtub. There's no way

1203
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 3: we were alive in two thousand and one. I was

1204
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: an adult in two thousand and one. Those phones weren't shit.

1205
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: Oh man. They couldn't keep a charge to save their

1206
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: fucking lives. I was like, charge in my phone every

1207
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: goddamn two hours.

1208
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, it's for emergencies. Only what emergency because

1209
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,479
Speaker 3: it's always dead. So these dudes are in this fucking

1210
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: dudo room and finally Larry's like, oh, yeah, how did

1211
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 3: you know how to turn off the lights?

1212
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: Ps?

1213
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 3: And Adam's like oh fine, and he throws him the

1214
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: picture of the family because, like Millie said, this whole

1215
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: movie is about them throwing things back and forth. So

1216
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 3: Larry dips one of the cigarettes in fake blood. There's

1217
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: two cigarettes, and then he like whispers something to Adam

1218
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: when the lights are off and Zep Michael Emerson the

1219
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: JSAW Killer can't hear them because they're whispering. And the

1220
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 3: lights come back on and Adam does the worst fake

1221
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 3: death scene of all time. Remember that scene in the

1222
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie where Paul Rubins is like

1223
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 3: ooh ah oh, and he's pretending to die because he

1224
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: got like steaked.

1225
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: He's like, oh ah, he this is Adam to a

1226
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: fucking tea.

1227
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: He's like, I almost screen grabbed it and said it

1228
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: to because he was like, Hey.

1229
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: We are gonna be gipping that back and forth for

1230
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: the rest.

1231
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: Of our lives. Oh my god, I'm gonna have to

1232
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: put it on our social media. I laughed so fucking hard.

1233
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: It was just him going, I mean.

1234
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: We've seen classic actor Danny Glover just actually almost dying

1235
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: and doing a great job of it.

1236
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: And then Adam comes in and he's like a oh

1237
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: my god.

1238
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 3: But also it's so bad that Jigsaw doesn't even believe him,

1239
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 3: because this is how we find out that those Bob

1240
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: Marley those fucking chains around their ankles are electrocuted. So

1241
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: he electrocutes Adam, and for some reason, that makes Adam

1242
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: remember how he got there, he's like, oh, I'm been electrocuted.

1243
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 3: I know everything, Like, sir, this is not how electrocution works.

1244
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: The fuck is going on?

1245
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 3: And the longer short of it is he's a photographer

1246
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 3: and he's been following Larry around because Tap hired him

1247
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: to follow Larry around because he thinks Larry's.

1248
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: A jigsaw killer.

1249
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 3: And he fell asleep in his fucking light room and

1250
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: he wakes up and hears something in his apartment, and

1251
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 3: instead of turning on the lights, he uses his camera

1252
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 3: flash to walk around his own apartment, and then he

1253
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 3: sees that fucking jigsaw doll in a chair and beats

1254
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: it with a bat.

1255
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 2: Instead of getting the fuck out of there, he's.

1256
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: Like, oh, who's in here? I don't care. Get the

1257
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: fuck out. Why are you beating the.

1258
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: Doll in a chair? Everything about this is fucked. Turn

1259
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: on the lights and.

1260
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 2: Leave your fucking apartment. You don't even need the lights

1261
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: to leave your own fucking apartment.

1262
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: Why are you.

1263
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: Wasting your camera battery. Get out of there, you psycho.

1264
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 3: But he does it, and now he's in the doodoo room.

1265
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: All he had to do was leave, and he would

1266
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: not have been in.

1267
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: The Doodoo room nothing about this man makes sense. I

1268
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: cannot get my shit together. You are walking.

1269
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 3: Around your house and you see a fucking doll like

1270
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 3: Jigsaw with those cheeks and that fucking old Carol what

1271
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: was that old Carol Channing puppet with like the mouth

1272
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 3: that opens like all the way like on an hinge.

1273
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: That's just chilling out in.

1274
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: One of your chairs in your living room.

1275
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 3: Are you gonna walk around your house being like, oh

1276
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 3: who put this here?

1277
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 2: Or are you getting the fuck out of there?

1278
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm out.

1279
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: You can't keep me in a room with a fucking

1280
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: doll like that. I'm sorry.

1281
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do it.

1282
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 3: So now he's in the fucking doodoo room, and you

1283
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 3: know what, he deserves it. He deserves it, sorry, Adam,

1284
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god. So Larry's like, oh my god, the

1285
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 3: phone is ringing because it only accepts calls in because

1286
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 3: we only have ten credits or whatever, because it's fucking

1287
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: two thousand and one. It's the day before September eleventh. Yeah,

1288
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 3: so the phone rings. It's Diana calling, and she's like, Daddy,

1289
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 3: remember I told you there was a man in my room.

1290
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: While he's here with a gun, and Allie decides the

1291
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: seed and for no fucking reason.

1292
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: Don't believe Adam's lies. Goodbye? Oh my god.

1293
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: And I'm like, bitch, it's five thirty. They have a

1294
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: six pm deadline. He's like, She's like, don't believe Adam.

1295
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna tell you why goodbye.

1296
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: That's what ZEB told me to tell you goodbye.

1297
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 3: And so now Adam and Larry at the zero hour

1298
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 3: are like fighting with each other. Oh yeah, and he's like, oh,

1299
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 3: you don't remember that I took your fucking picture last

1300
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: night when you were leaving this hotel and Larry's.

1301
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: There's another detail that just sprung up. I'm like, oh god,

1302
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he has Larry's cheating with someone in a hotel.

1303
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: Let's just throw that in there. He's cheating with one

1304
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 1: of his like residents. Oh my god.

1305
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 3: I one day I'm gonna write a killer movie. And

1306
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: here's the premise. Somebody wakes up, we watch them muttering

1307
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 3: and puttering around their apartment, They go to bed, they

1308
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 3: take a nap, maybe read a book or watch a movie,

1309
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 3: and then they just decide, you know what, I'm gonna

1310
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 3: kill someone today. And then they go out and kill

1311
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 3: someone and come back home and.

1312
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: Go to bed.

1313
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 3: That is the premise of my fucking killer movie. I

1314
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: don't need any more than that. Those are the details

1315
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: I fucking need. I woke up I wanted to kill

1316
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: someone goodbye.

1317
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it is a maximalist fucking mess, like

1318
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: these serial killers that put a lot of fucking work

1319
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: into all the fine details and then they just roll

1320
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: out like a fucking machine gun, like ooh, like, here's

1321
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: details about all of the stuff that I do. Like again,

1322
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: how the fuck is a cell phone charged? Thank god

1323
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: he looked at his wallet. Yes, otherwise that whole part

1324
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: of the story wouldn't have happened. He was like, let

1325
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: me sneak in a creepy, tied up photo of his

1326
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: wife and daughter in the wallet, and hopefully he'll look

1327
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: at his wallet into a fucking pipe in a doodoo

1328
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: room and he doesn't know how he got there. Maybe

1329
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: he wouldn't even check his wallet. What's he gonna do

1330
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: use money in the doodoo room.

1331
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: The only thing this premise is missing is somebody stepping

1332
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 3: on a rake and getting hit in the face with

1333
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: a banana cream pie.

1334
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: I swear to god, dude, I swear, I'm like, what

1335
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: in the fuck is going on.

1336
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: Here?

1337
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: So much is so much? And then we.

1338
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 3: Realized like oh yeah, Like he's like, well, I got

1339
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 3: all these pictures. There were also in the black plastic bag.

1340
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: So she's right, you shouldn't believe me because I'm hiding

1341
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: shit from you. And here are all the pictures. I've

1342
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 3: been following you. What did you do in that room?

1343
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 3: And we're like, oh my god, they're fighting. And then

1344
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 3: Adam's like, oh, this guy with a scar around his

1345
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: neck hired me to follow you. And we realized that Tap,

1346
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: because his partner was killed, has gone crazy and he's

1347
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: super obsessed. But also, why does he need a photographer.

1348
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 3: He's got a command center watching Doc's apartment.

1349
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 1: He's got a murder board. I'm like, oh, so you

1350
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 1: just spent money you didn't need to spend Yeah.

1351
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 3: And in one of the pictures there's a guy in

1352
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 3: Larry's window and he's like, oh wait, that's the Orderly.

1353
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 3: Maybe something's going on here. So now this is where

1354
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 3: shit pops off. All hell breaks loose, as if it

1355
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 3: hasn't already been breaking loose this entire time, because now

1356
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 3: the mom who's played by Monica what's her face? Potter

1357
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 3: pots Monica pops Monica Potter. Yeah, mom breaks out of

1358
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: her fucking vines, but then she gets back in him

1359
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: and hides it, and then she gets the gun from

1360
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 3: the orderly who's called Larry. So Larry's listening to his

1361
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 3: wife and child scream and struggle on the phone.

1362
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:54,520
Speaker 2: And this is where.

1363
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 3: The acting takes a dive straight to hell because at

1364
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 3: one point he's listening on the phone.

1365
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: He goes Ali.

1366
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 3: Eli like she's gonna stop fighting this psychopath and trying

1367
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 3: to save their child to talk to him, but Tap

1368
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: breaks in and now there's just free wheeling gunshots in

1369
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 3: the apartment. Now while he fights this orderly, Alie and

1370
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 3: Diana get away. They get away and Tap in Jigsaw

1371
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 3: this orderly are now in a high speed chase. Because

1372
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 3: we needed something else for this fucking movie. All hell

1373
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 3: is breaking loose. The phone is ringing, Larry can't reach it.

1374
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 3: He loses his fucking mind and he cuts his foot off.

1375
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 3: He uses his own shirt as a tourniquit and he

1376
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: actually cuts his foot off.

1377
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,879
Speaker 2: So Chekhov's hacksaw is useful.

1378
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: Finally Checkoff's axaw, like we finally see him cut it off.

1379
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: And this is the scene that I think I was

1380
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: talking about earlier as the scene where carry elw was

1381
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: didn't maybe need to go to eleven. He could have

1382
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: spit at eight or nine and been totally effective. But

1383
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: he is losing his fucking mind. In the scene. He's

1384
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: like wearing like white makeup, so he looks like a

1385
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: fucking ghost. He's sweating his bellies out, which I was like, yo,

1386
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: I love this look. Love this look for Carrie.

1387
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: I love a pitstain.

1388
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 3: He's sweating in a way that I've never seen before.

1389
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 3: It's not just pitstains. He's sweating a straight line down

1390
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: his chest.

1391
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: Yes. And he's like maniacally sawing his own foot off,

1392
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: going you Boston, my family, You Boston.

1393
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: Loses his accent, biting, biting through his shirt which he's

1394
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 3: using as a tourniquit, You Boston. And he's sawing and

1395
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: crying and screaming and thawing and crying and screaming and

1396
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 3: Adams screaming, and then he finally he's like, all right, cool,

1397
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 3: I'm free. I got this foot free. And he crawls

1398
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 3: across the floor and gets the gun and shoots at

1399
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 3: him in the chest, and You're like, all right, this

1400
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 3: has to be the end of it no, and I'm

1401
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 3: not going to ruin the bitter end of the movie,

1402
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 3: but I to let you know that all of this

1403
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: happened for naught because Diana and Ali were fine. They

1404
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,919
Speaker 3: ran to the neighbor's house. They're fucking fine, and Jigsaw

1405
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 3: is not who we think it is. Surprise, their surprise, surprise.

1406
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 3: Shit keeps popping off. So all I'm gonna say at

1407
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 3: the end of this film is, if there's not a

1408
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 3: Carrie elwist and Saw too stumping around, this was all

1409
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: for nothing. I want to see him stumping around a

1410
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 3: hospital telling people, oh my god, I was a victim

1411
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 3: of the Jigsaw Killer and I got away just like Amanda.

1412
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: I have to say, when this movie ended, I was like,

1413
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: there are nine more of these, thank you? And I

1414
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 1: was like, do I even want to go down that road?

1415
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: Like am I just content to have seen this maximalist

1416
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: nightmare and then just like move on? Or oh yeah,

1417
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: should I continue down the road of the mythology of

1418
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: this movie? Because I'm like that was a lot, y'all,

1419
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: that was a lot.

1420
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: Let me tell you can't get me in another Saw.

1421
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: Movie because all they're gonna do is amp up the

1422
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 3: killing which is already too high at a level. I

1423
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 3: don't want to see all the different ways these people

1424
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 3: are coming up with to make people kill themselves. While

1425
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: the girl from Seventh Heaven Mackenzie Vega who played Diana,

1426
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: is screaming in the background with her dad stumping around.

1427
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: Well, your grandma has the first like what five or six?

1428
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's first four.

1429
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 3: She has the first four on disc because that bitch

1430
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,480
Speaker 3: loves gore, she loves carnage.

1431
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: Well, and here's the other component about this movie that

1432
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: drove me bananas. It was totally filmed. I mean it

1433
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: looked like the fucking Marilyn Manson the Beautiful People video. Ah,

1434
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: the Beautiful People, the Beautiful People, because it was all

1435
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: like people twitching, weird twitching randomly.

1436
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 3: This is the result I think of seven, like we

1437
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 3: were talking about during the seven episode, where it's like, oh,

1438
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 3: this like tech infiltrated horror in a way that they're like,

1439
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 3: if it's not glitching, it ain't scary, it's gotta be

1440
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 3: glitching and dark.

1441
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a fucking Marilyn Manson video in

1442
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,719
Speaker 1: that way. I was like, this is driving me fucking crazy.

1443
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 3: I can't I honestly cannot believe we've been talking about

1444
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 3: this movie for as long as we have.

1445
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: Also, we might have to cut this, who knows. But

1446
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: at one point you said, I don't even know if

1447
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 1: I canna repeat it Bob mar.

1448
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I said, Bob Marley cratch.

1449
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 3: Look, he did have cancer on the foot. We don't

1450
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: know what his treatments were. We don't know what his

1451
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: treatments were.

1452
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: Sought that the fact that Bob Marley now is entered

1453
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: this universe.

1454
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 3: It's Bob Marley haunted and ron which is why Danny

1455
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 3: Glover was there doing the research and method acting because

1456
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: Bob Marley.

1457
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,919
Speaker 1: I cannot, I cannot side episode.

1458
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: I think I think we leave it in. I think

1459
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 2: we leave it in.

1460
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: As a symbol of how crazy it is to talk

1461
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 3: about this film and when it does to the human brain.

1462
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 3: There's too much happening. Never star in your own fucking movie.

1463
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 3: Get a get a voice coach for these accents. Spend

1464
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 3: some of the budget on a voice coach instead of

1465
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 3: these glitchy tech murder scenes.

1466
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I gotta say, like, I don't think

1467
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: I've laughed that hard in an episode ever. I couldn't

1468
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: breathe at one point I was laughing so hard.

1469
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 3: I appreciate you letting me put a saw clock on

1470
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 3: your viewing.

1471
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: First viewing of this, look I much like the dudes

1472
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: in the Doodoo Room. I was pressed, like I was like,

1473
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: I got little time for this, and it was intense,

1474
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: like I've never even seen any of these movies, and

1475
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: I had an inkling of what I was in store for,

1476
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: but it.

1477
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: Went way beyond that way, so far, so far beyond.

1478
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 3: And look, all I'm saying is can we get twenty

1479
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 3: eight days later out of the rights hell that it's

1480
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,879
Speaker 3: in so we don't have to do this anymore.

1481
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: I just wanted to watch twenty eight days later. I

1482
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 1: love that you inserted saw in at the very last minute.

1483
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: That makes me laugh so hard, because as much as

1484
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 1: this movie was an actual nightmare for me, I was like,

1485
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm glad I hit it. I'm glad

1486
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: I fucking went there. I like to be challenged. I

1487
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,679
Speaker 1: like to like time some loose ends when it comes

1488
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: to films that I've never seen before. And man, what

1489
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: a ride, What a ride?

1490
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: What a way to start the year.

1491
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, your.

1492
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 3: Movie is by no means coming in as an Oscar

1493
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 3: winning way of Shakespearean levels. Compared to mine, it is

1494
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 3: doubly fucked, but in a totally different way.

1495
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is a masterpiece of a whole

1496
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 1: other level as far as I'm concerned. Oh my god.

1497
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: So I have to compose myself. I literally was laughing

1498
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 1: so hard at that fucking Mom Marley thing that I couldn't.

1499
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: Breathe, and I didn't realize.

1500
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: I got it.

1501
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: Oh God.

1502
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: My movie for the theme New Year Knew Me. It

1503
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: is from nineteen ninety. It was written by Ronald Shusett,

1504
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: Dan O'Bannon, and Gary Goldman, based on a short story

1505
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: by Philip Kate Dick. It was directed by the god

1506
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: Paul Verhoven, and it's called Total Recall. Picked this thing

1507
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: out of the case and stick it up your nose. Okay.

1508
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: The whole reason why I wanted this movie to be

1509
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: in is because remember, like a while back, we were

1510
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: talking about I don't know what we were talking about,

1511
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: but it was an old episode, and I talked about

1512
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: how I saw Total Recall again for the first time

1513
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, basically, and I was like

1514
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: stoked that it's still ruled. So I was like, fuck it,

1515
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it for New Year. Knew me and

1516
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: it fits.

1517
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 3: It fits because this motherfucker is in eighteen different worlds.

1518
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: This is the timeline I couldn't follow, and I have

1519
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 3: a master's degree.

1520
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 1: Listen, both these movies are so confusing this week. So

1521
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: if you just decided to be like, you know what,

1522
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: I can't do the brain work this week, You're just

1523
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna listen. You don't have to watch the movies this week.

1524
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: Is what we're saying. It's a lot, but I will

1525
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: say though, Yo, I saw this movie in the movie

1526
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 1: theater when I was a kid, and I loved it

1527
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, I thought it was awesome that everybody

1528
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: cussed so much. Like I was like, yeah, you know what.

1529
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 3: I could not get over and still can't get over

1530
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 3: how many times Arnold Schwarzenegger gets kicked in the fucking dick.

1531
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: I know. It's so good, very exciting.

1532
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 3: For me as a child, maybe more exciting for me

1533
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 3: as an adult.

1534
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 2: He get kicked in the dick every ten minutes.

1535
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: I love that, truly love that beautiful. And also he

1536
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: cussed a lot in this movie, which I thought was rad.

1537
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: This is I mean, yo, you know this. I'm a

1538
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: huge Arnold fan, I'm on record obviously, I know this

1539
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: might be my second favorite Arnold movie behind T two

1540
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: Judgment Day, because that's a fucking master piece. I gotta

1541
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: tell you. So, when I was watching this movie, I

1542
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: was still at my mom and dad's house, and my

1543
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: nephew was kind of hanging around my six year old nephew,

1544
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: not my eight year old nephew, but my six year

1545
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: old nephew, and I told him the story. So, first

1546
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: of all, prior to this total recall thing, I told

1547
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: him a story because he had he had to go

1548
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: to the dentist, you know, And I took him to

1549
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: the dentist and he had to get a filling, and

1550
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: his whole numb, right, like the like left side of

1551
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 1: his face was numb, and like the dentist was like,

1552
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: make sure he doesn't poke at it, and make sure

1553
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't pick at it. And I was like, don't

1554
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 1: worry about that, because I have a horrifying story from

1555
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: childhood where when I was a little kid, I went

1556
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 1: to the dentist, my face was numb, and I started

1557
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: picking at my cheek because I just was like, Oh,

1558
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,839
Speaker 1: isn't it unbelievable that it's numb and I can't feel anything,

1559
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: and I was like digging my nail into it to

1560
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: the degree which once that shit was not numb, there

1561
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: was this humongous bloody star on my fucking face.

1562
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 3: What.

1563
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I had picked my cheek so badly when it

1564
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: was under anesthesia that I made I blew a hole

1565
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: in my face basically blood. When I went to school

1566
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: the next day, of course, every single kid and my

1567
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: teacher was like, what the fuck happened to you? And

1568
01:19:58,840 --> 01:19:59,839
Speaker 1: I was the dentist.

1569
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, bout how dentists work.

1570
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't tell him that. I actually told them

1571
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: that I got my face blown off by the terminator.

1572
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 1: Like I was like telling the story to my six

1573
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: year old nephew. I was like, yo, uh, I wanted

1574
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: to be cool at school. I want to tell people

1575
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: that I'm an idiot. And so I was like, yo,

1576
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: I got shot in the face by the terminator. And

1577
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: then of course he's like, who's the terminator? And I

1578
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 1: was like, well, I happen to be watching Total Recall

1579
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: right now, so if you want, I will show you

1580
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: clips from terminator to a judgment day solid And now

1581
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: he's obsessed. He keeps walking around the house talking about

1582
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: John Connor. And my sister was like, what did you

1583
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: show him? Like, what scenes from the movie did you

1584
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: show him? And I was just like, the whole thing,

1585
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: super violent.

1586
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 2: We watched the whole thing.

1587
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 3: When I say clips, I mean I clipped it from

1588
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 3: the credits at the beginning to the credits at the end.

1589
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: Of the only I mean I showed him the scene

1590
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,799
Speaker 1: where Edward Furlong teaches him how to say oscillast a baby.

1591
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: I was like, that's innocuous, I taught. I showed him

1592
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 1: the last scene of the Thumb going down into the lava. Yeah,

1593
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, nothing terrible. But now he's obsessed with Terminator

1594
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: two and he's walking around talking about John Connor. And

1595
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: there was but once once Total Recall was playing, like,

1596
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't watch Total Recall because it

1597
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: is so not for kids. And even though I saw

1598
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: it as a kid, I was like, oh, yeah, it's

1599
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,440
Speaker 1: not for kids, absolutely.

1600
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 3: But also those second children they're always game.

1601
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1602
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 3: Second children are built differently these days, from five onwards.

1603
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, they want to see everything.

1604
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: He has an eagerness for that shit that does not

1605
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: exist in my older nephew. Nope, And this is something

1606
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: that I I can't have that power because that's how

1607
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: I grew up. I wanted to see every fucked up

1608
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: thing in the world exactly, and I was completely unparented

1609
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: in that way. As we've talked about both of our childhoods,

1610
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: no parental super when it came to films. And so

1611
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: now I'm like, Okay, well I show I showed a

1612
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: six year old terminator two. What else can we do.

1613
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 3: There's a fine line between cool aunt and arbiter of trauma.

1614
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 3: I know, I know, and we got to find that

1615
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 3: line every time we hang out with these kids.

1616
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: I know, total recall, he's gonna have to wait, He's

1617
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to be at least twelve, absolutely for several reasons.

1618
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: But listen, you know him on record. I love Arnold,

1619
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: I love total recall. Everyone involved in this motion picture

1620
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: is firing on all cylinders. I love it. I gotta

1621
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: say this in terms of like on screen couples, Okay,

1622
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: Sharon Stone and Arnold for me, are only second to

1623
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: Whoopy Goldberg and Jonathan Price and Jumping Jack Flash like

1624
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: an odd pairing, and odd like an odd pairing that

1625
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: to fucking works. For some reason, we don't know why

1626
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: it works. Sharon Stone is unbelievable in this movie. She

1627
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: for my money, better than basic instinct. I'll just say it.

1628
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you.

1629
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:13,799
Speaker 1: She's one of the women that kicks Arnold in the balls.

1630
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:18,480
Speaker 1: Like she's got great outfits, she's got a great villainous

1631
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: vibe to her.

1632
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: I mean the hair popin' eighties, the hair.

1633
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: The like pink lipstick. I mean, she's fantastic, and like,

1634
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 1: when I see them together, I'm like, that's the bitch

1635
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: that he needs to ride with, like for real. Sharon

1636
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 1: Stone is Arnold Schwarzenegger's only partner period. But the thing

1637
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: I love about this movie so much is that the

1638
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: practical effects still incredible. It's so fun, action packed and

1639
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: not for nothing. But this movie predicted so many damn

1640
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 1: things flat screen TVs, FaceTime, self driving cars, loyalty cards.

1641
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: I mean, hello, I.

1642
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: Was thinking the same exact thing. I'm like, is our

1643
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: present day living experience based on people who loved the

1644
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 3: movie total recall.

1645
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: Dude, I think about that all the time. I'm like,

1646
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: there are so many fucking nerds in Silicon Valley that

1647
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 1: were completely raised by this like action movie entertainment that

1648
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're like, yes, let's create a world of

1649
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: total recall things.

1650
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 2: And it's based on a story by Philip K.

1651
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,679
Speaker 3: Dick, which is the ultimate nerd rager exactly to read

1652
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: his stories, so like he, for better and worse, was

1653
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 3: the architect of our fucking time.

1654
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the nerd to nerd pipeline is so strong, it's

1655
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: pretty pretty crazy. So a one sentenced synopsis of Total Recall.

1656
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 1: A man living in the year twenty eighty four books

1657
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: a futuristic mind vacation one day that goes horribly wrong,

1658
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: making him think he's actually living the pretend life that

1659
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: he designed for himself, as you do in twenty eighty four.

1660
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 3: Oh good, I'm like that just sounds like me sitting

1661
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 3: in my chair and thinking, my guess, is this a simulation?

1662
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 3: Am I on a mind vacation right now? And then

1663
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 3: you're like, Nah, this shit's real. There's no Sharon Stone

1664
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: to save me.

1665
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

1666
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: So.

1667
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwartzenegger obviously the star of this film. He plays

1668
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: a man named Doug Quaid. He's living on Earth in

1669
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 1: the future twenty eighty four. He's a construction worker by day.

1670
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: He has a great apartment and a smoking hot wife,

1671
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: but he's having some bad dreams about Mars, which, by

1672
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: the way, in twenty eighty four, Mars is a livable

1673
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: planet with humans and human hybrids and is of course

1674
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: run by some fortune five hundred capitalist fuck named vilos

1675
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: Cohagen who was played by Ronnie Cox from Deliverance and

1676
01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: many other things. So the future is different, but also

1677
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: not different.

1678
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 3: And also the future isn't too much in the future

1679
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: because at the start of this movie, this bitch is

1680
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 3: using an immersion blender to make a smoothie. I'm like,

1681
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,839
Speaker 3: it's twenty eighty four and you're using an immersion blender.

1682
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:16,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were no line of mixes.

1683
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 2: Apparently in twenty eighty four they couldn't get that part

1684
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: figured out.

1685
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. But so here's the thing. Arnold is like shuffling

1686
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: through life. He's on the subway. He sees an ad

1687
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 1: on one of the TVs on the subway for this

1688
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: company called Recall that offers vacations of the mind where

1689
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: you basically get strapped into this like MRI machine and

1690
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 1: you get injected with some memories of a vacation. You

1691
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: get to design the vacation. I mean, I was kind

1692
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: of like that is pretty tight, and they keep selling it.

1693
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: The selling point of it is like you don't even

1694
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: have to like worry about the airport and like getting

1695
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: sand in your draws and like any of that stuff.

1696
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 1: You don't even leave the house, like you just like

1697
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: going on my vacation, and then you come back and

1698
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: it's actually like you had been to wherever, And I'm like,

1699
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: that is tight.

1700
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 3: Here's my thoughts on virtual reality and mind vacations. Stay

1701
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 3: in your fucking mind. Nothing good happens when you leave

1702
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 3: your own the landscape of your own fucking mind.

1703
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to worry about like flight delays

1704
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: and things like that.

1705
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: Take take the flight delay. Don't get jacked in your

1706
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: brain to relax.

1707
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. Is Like one of his construction

1708
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: worker pals in the movie is like, Yo, this company

1709
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: ain't good. Don't fuck with your brain, pal, it ain't

1710
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: worth it. An actual line, Oh good, don't fuck with

1711
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:41,879
Speaker 1: your brain. But he does. Anyway, he goes to recall

1712
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: and he meets up with this like extremely slick sales

1713
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 1: guy who I swear to God is dress like Babyface

1714
01:27:50,840 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: the R and B legend Babyface. And this guy convinced

1715
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 1: this is him to not only take a mind vacation,

1716
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: but also a personality vacation which come on, which is

1717
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 1: like and he's like, it's a simple add on. It

1718
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: doesn't cost much more. But so you get to go

1719
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 1: on a mind vacation and then you get to be

1720
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: like whoever you want on the vacation. So Quaid basically

1721
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: is like, Okay, here's what I want. I want to

1722
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: be a secret agent. And then it's like I want

1723
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: to check. Duh. She's got to be athletic and brunette,

1724
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 1: and she's got to be both sleezy and de mirror.

1725
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 3: That is an incredible scene because he's half conked out

1726
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 3: and he's like sleezy demure.

1727
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 1: Like he's fighting it out in his own brain, but

1728
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 1: also like, isn't that the ultimate strake eye fantasy is

1729
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: a woman who is both sleezy and demure at the same.

1730
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 2: Time, absolutely and athletic.

1731
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: Well, this is why we don't have rights, is what

1732
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 1: I've decided. Is that matter too obsessed with the idea

1733
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: that we can be both sleazy into mirror, and.

1734
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 2: They need to get over it and realize we just

1735
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: want to be sleazy.

1736
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: So here's the thing he is in the MRI machine.

1737
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: He gets injected, but then guess what he has what

1738
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: they call a schizoid embolism. And there's a scene where

1739
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: he's like spiraling out and the employees of recall are

1740
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 1: freaking the fuck out, where they're calling each other dumb

1741
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 1: bitches and they're slapping each other across the face, like

1742
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: what a workplace? This is.

1743
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 3: The woman who slaps that guy across the face.

1744
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 2: Looks like missus Frizzle and she's like, pop, dude.

1745
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: I was screaming when when that happens? Pretty good. So

1746
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: the babyface boss guy is like, fuck it. You know what.

1747
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: The schizoid embolism sucks. It's not our problem, though. Let's

1748
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: erase his entire experience, refund his money, just put him

1749
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: in a cab. We don't want a record of him

1750
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: even being here. Right, So theoretically Quaid is now back

1751
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: to his normal life. He shows up in a self

1752
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: driving cab and he's like, oh, fuck, where that cab? Yeah?

1753
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 2: Fuck that cab driver?

1754
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Never? Yes, never, I would never. Okay, that's another question

1755
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: for you. Would you ever get in a self driving car?

1756
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell fucking no, no way, one hundred percent

1757
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: fucking no. Wouldn't put my hand in a toilet, and

1758
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: would not get in a self driving car.

1759
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 3: That's just common sense. Both both of those are common sense.

1760
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:31,759
Speaker 1: Thank you. So technically, as per the theme, Quaid like wakes

1761
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 1: up right, But then here's the thing. He realizes pretty

1762
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: quickly that he was actually an agent on Mars because

1763
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: now in his real life all these people are trying

1764
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: to kill him. Right. Turns out, Doug Quaid was an

1765
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,600
Speaker 1: agent who went by the name of Howser. He was

1766
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: previously working for Cohagen and his top man, who was

1767
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: played by Michael fucking Ironside from Scanners. He is the

1768
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: best villain ever.

1769
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 2: Love that dude.

1770
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 1: Yes, And as it turns out, Sharon Stone, his wife,

1771
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 1: she was actually an agent and she was implanted into

1772
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:08,560
Speaker 1: his life.

1773
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 2: Like six weeks ago.

1774
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Yes, So he wakes up realizing that he's not who

1775
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: he actually is, that he was something else. Okay, at

1776
01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 1: some point in the mythology again, this is where it's

1777
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: going to get confusing, folks, so bear with me. So

1778
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: at some point Howser, the secret agent that Quaid actually is,

1779
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 1: realized that Cohagen, his boss, was evil, and so then

1780
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 1: he started to turn on him and he joins, like

1781
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: this Mars Resistance, which is basically this group of freedom

1782
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 1: fighters on Mars who are again like humans, but also

1783
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 1: half alien half humans. They're fighting for fresh air on Mars,

1784
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: which of course is completely controlled by Cohagen. Right, the

1785
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 1: fucking fortune five hundred fuck that I mentioned runs Mars

1786
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: and because of all this, kohen and wants Houser dead

1787
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: because he knows too much and he turned us back

1788
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 1: on him.

1789
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 3: Can we pause here for a second and ask is

1790
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 3: it even possible to get fresh air on Mars?

1791
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: The red planet?

1792
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 3: You know?

1793
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm really stupid when it comes to science,

1794
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,799
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe this makes sense, but again

1795
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:20,799
Speaker 1: I'm stupid.

1796
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think you're stupid. I think I

1797
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 2: just I don't know about space enough to know this planet.

1798
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't either, But I feel like at.

1799
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 3: The end of this movie, their plan was let's get

1800
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,759
Speaker 3: a blue sky going on the red planet.

1801
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I want to say it was because of

1802
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 1: like reactors or something like it was like some.

1803
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 2: React like pistons.

1804
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: Pistons who made the reactors? Was that the aliens?

1805
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 2: Was that Cohagen?

1806
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 3: All right, we can continue, But I'm just like I'm

1807
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 3: questioning the science already.

1808
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 1: You know. I love to talk out logic in films,

1809
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: as just witnessed by fucking Saw. So I hold space

1810
01:32:58,360 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: for that all day, every day. If you ever want

1811
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:05,719
Speaker 1: to pop in and ask a real basic question about

1812
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: the logic of a film, I'm here for you.

1813
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for holding that space always.

1814
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: So now Quaid slash Houser has to go to Mars.

1815
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: He has to go see a woman named Melina in

1816
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 1: order to straighten out this entire mess. By the way,

1817
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: the Mars immigration scene still to this day is one

1818
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: of my favorite scenes in the movie. The woman that

1819
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Houser assumes in the scene needs a fucking honorary Oscar.

1820
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: I swear to god, she sells it so hard and

1821
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: not for nothing. But when I was twelve years old

1822
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: and I saw her face come apart in that like Jigsaw,

1823
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah Jigsaw, speaking of Jigsaw. When I saw her face

1824
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: come apart and Arnold was in there, I thought movies

1825
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 1: cannot get better than this. I was like, there's no

1826
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: way a movie is going to be better than Total Recall.

1827
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 3: Truly mind bending experience. To see that shit that was

1828
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 3: like tough technology back in the day.

1829
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, like T two hadn't even come out yet. No,

1830
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,799
Speaker 1: so of course I was like, my mind was fucking blown.

1831
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:12,480
Speaker 1: So now, uh, Houser is on Mars. Molina lives in Venusville,

1832
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 1: which is kind of like the Red Light District slash

1833
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: Times Square of Mars that also has a Jack in

1834
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: the Box. I was like, that is my least favorite

1835
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: fast food place.

1836
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: The branding in this movie is all over the place.

1837
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like a Jack in the Box. Fuck.

1838
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: If I shout up to Mars and there was a

1839
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 1: Jack in the Box as my only like late night option,

1840
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 1: I would be so fucking pissed off. Do you like

1841
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 1: Jack in the Box? What are your thoughts on that place?

1842
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,759
Speaker 3: I don't Jacket the Box for me is a purely

1843
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 3: West Coast experience.

1844
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 2: Yes, was always the last fucking option.

1845
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 3: Oh not even and they pushed that like cheap menu,

1846
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,519
Speaker 3: but by the time you're done, it ends up being

1847
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:52,839
Speaker 3: like fifteen sixteen bucks.

1848
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I I have la friends that stand Jack

1849
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 1: in the Box so hard, and I'm like, what.

1850
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,440
Speaker 2: No, I can't stand the commercials.

1851
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: Nough that was that was a depressing scene to see

1852
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: a Jack the Box.

1853
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 2: On Mars, but to know that it still existed in

1854
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 2: twenty eighty four.

1855
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, But as it turns out, Molina works in this

1856
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 1: like slazy strip joint with this lady with three boobs,

1857
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 1: sleazy but demure, slazy but demir. This three boob Lady

1858
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: was pretty much the only thing that me and my

1859
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: friends talked about for like two years after this movie came.

1860
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 1: I like the three Boob Lady was like a formative,

1861
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 1: pivotable moment for children of a certain age. I love that,

1862
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 1: which is why my nephew will never see it. I can't.

1863
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Here's every visit boobs, so I don't want to get

1864
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: me see three. But as it turns out, so like

1865
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 1: Melina is guess what, that's the girl that that Quaid

1866
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: chose and recall, And I'm happy to report she's an

1867
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 1: athletic latina who does appear to be both slazy and

1868
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 1: de mirror time because she grabs his balls like there's

1869
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of ball stuff in this, a lot of

1870
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: a lot of dick kicks, a lot of ball hugs.

1871
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: I have to think that's Verhoven. I was like, maybe

1872
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: that's a Verhoven thing. I don't know.

1873
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, It's like we're not even gonna pretend we're going

1874
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 3: right for the junk.

1875
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my g right there. Okay, So Cohagen's dudes

1876
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: bust into the joint, and but you know they're freedom fighters.

1877
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: They're used to like being fucked with. One of the

1878
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 1: dancers in the joint is this woman named thumb Ballina,

1879
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: and she starts annihilating people with a giant machine gun.

1880
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 1: It is my religion at this point when Thumb bolinas

1881
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:45,759
Speaker 1: on the bar, being like love that shit, Oh God

1882
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: so much. Okay, so we have to move into this

1883
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: because I swear to God, this is so insane. So

1884
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Howser needs to go see the leader of the resistance,

1885
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: this dude named Quato, and you come to find out

1886
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:06,799
Speaker 1: that Quato is actually a gooey baby that lives inside

1887
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:15,839
Speaker 1: the torso of the actor Marshall Bell is what puts

1888
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: this movie in the masterpiece category.

1889
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 3: For me, one hundred percent, Quato blew my fucking mind

1890
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 3: as a child, and nothing has ever made me laugh

1891
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 3: harder as an adult.

1892
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 1: He is like a cross between if you've never seen

1893
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: this movie, imagine this baby. It's like a cross between

1894
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 1: Chucky Blall from basket Case the Baby from It's alive

1895
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: and Yoda.

1896
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 3: Essentially, Quato is shrugs the funk physically, but a goddamn

1897
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 3: legend in every other sense.

1898
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: He is so gooey and slippery and gross. I don't

1899
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: know why that. Maybe because he just came out from

1900
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: someone's stomach or something. I don't know why.

1901
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 2: He's giving modoc vibes.

1902
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's and he talks like this LSD Guru from

1903
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: the sixties. He's like, open your mind, open your mind.

1904
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 3: No hands are like, no further instructions.

1905
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 1: I'm a gooey baby. It's so fucked up. Oh my god,

1906
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: it's it's so good like that well that shit pops out.

1907
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: I was like, this just got kicked up.

1908
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 2: An I would get a Quato tattoo.

1909
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, me too. You know what I'm gonna

1910
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: do twenty twenty four. Quato tattoo on one gun. The

1911
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: other is Thumblina with the fucking machine gun.

1912
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 3: Oh my gun, make it a chest piece. Put a

1913
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 3: fucking boat in between. Put the landscape of Mars with

1914
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:53,799
Speaker 3: someone's eyes popping out in between.

1915
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, I swear so. Essentially, this all

1916
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 1: leads to Quaid slash House are realizing that Coohagen has

1917
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: been hoarding this huge reactor that apparently can make the

1918
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 1: entire world breathe fresh air, And basically Cohagen has been

1919
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: keeping it off because he wants to control everything, as

1920
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 1: rich guys do, and it's up to them him and

1921
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: Melina to save the world, just as he programmed for

1922
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 1: himself in the MRI machine back at recall, See, do

1923
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 1: you understand what's going on here? Folks? Like it's a

1924
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 1: is it a dream or is it real life scenario?

1925
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 3: It's wheels within wheels, Is it projecting or is it

1926
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:36,839
Speaker 3: happened and he's living in a cycle?

1927
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. This is why the theme exists.

1928
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 1: This movie is perfect for the theme because it's it's

1929
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: taking place in like a I just woke up and

1930
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 1: am I still in a dream? Or am I a

1931
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: new person which is actually an old person? And I'm

1932
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 1: gonna just tell you, I fucking love this movie. It

1933
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: will make you remember like the great era of practical

1934
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: effects between like the babies and the head's coming off

1935
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 1: and the eyeballs popping out like that. There's a scene

1936
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 1: towards the end where so much eyeballs popping out. I

1937
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 1: loved that, Like I was like, yo, fuck CGI completely.

1938
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 1: I love practical effects.

1939
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 2: Give me like an obviously clay head.

1940
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I love it when like they try to like

1941
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: make you think that the clay head is the real

1942
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,679
Speaker 1: head and like no, but damn, I love you trying.

1943
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: I can miss you trying. I miss you trying, girl.

1944
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 2: I love seeing the Gears, man, I love to see

1945
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 2: the Gears.

1946
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Me too, And not for nothing. I think it's great

1947
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: that Houser wanted in a Latina woman who spits in

1948
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: bad guys faces and grabs dudes by the balls. I

1949
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 1: love that for him. And yeah, I mean, I guess

1950
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,480
Speaker 1: like waking up from a botched mind vacation and realizing

1951
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: now you're just like in a permanent botched mind vacation

1952
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: is so horrifically fucked. I don't want that for myself.

1953
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 3: Like is there a body in a chair somewhere? And

1954
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 3: a like is it the guy you remember? Like Johnny

1955
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:06,080
Speaker 3: got his gun, like the Oh Metallica one video, Like

1956
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,680
Speaker 3: is he just trapped in his mind somewhere in a bed?

1957
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:12,400
Speaker 1: Well? And that's I mean, listen, maybe this is a

1958
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. I don't know this movie is old, but

1959
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: that's the open ended question at the end of the film,

1960
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,799
Speaker 1: there's like it's a total like choose your own adventure

1961
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:23,880
Speaker 1: type of style, which I think is great.

1962
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 2: I love it.

1963
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 1: I love it too, and so yeah, I don't know.

1964
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing like total recall still

1965
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: fucking holds up. I still love it. It's totally over

1966
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:36,400
Speaker 1: Hoven movie. It's like the second best Verhoven movie. But

1967
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: actually I'm not gonna say that because I love Showgirls,

1968
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 1: I love RoboCop, I fucking love Paul Verhoven, everybody. I

1969
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:45,599
Speaker 1: just do. But like beefs permit, it so fun. It

1970
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 1: is like, to me, a perfect movie to accidentally watch

1971
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,760
Speaker 1: as a child. Yes, Like, if you're gonna watch a

1972
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: movie that you're too young for, let it be total recall. Absolutely,

1973
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: because it's so fun.

1974
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 3: But I vividly remember the VHS because my grandmother made

1975
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 3: me sit down and watch it with her and she

1976
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 3: and it was rare to buy a film in my house. Yeah,

1977
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 3: if you were buying a VHS tape, it was because

1978
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 3: you planned on watching it a lot.

1979
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: We own total recall.

1980
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean this is like the high

1981
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: post Terminator one post Predator, you know, post Commando Arnold

1982
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: era right, like he could not be stopped at me.

1983
01:42:23,439 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: He fucking like basically was like, I want to make

1984
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 1: this movie. This movie had been trying to be made

1985
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:32,160
Speaker 1: for like fifty years prior, and was like, I'm getting

1986
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: it done. I want the guy from RoboCop to shoot it.

1987
01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 1: I want to star in it, even though everyone's like, no, Arnold,

1988
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:41,760
Speaker 1: don't star in total recall, But he did and it

1989
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 1: worked out for him because this movie rules so.

1990
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 3: And now it's something that you will want to introduce

1991
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 3: your nephew to your youngest nephew.

1992
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and the legacy continues.

1993
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: I know. It's like depravity brings depravity back. Like it's

1994
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 1: just I was. I was exposed to hardcore shit as

1995
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: a child, and now I'm passing that tradition along. Oh

1996
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,920
Speaker 1: my god, this episode is so fun. I fucking love

1997
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,560
Speaker 1: New Year Knew me. It always makes me laugh.

1998
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 2: Me too, Welcome back with a nearly two hour episode.

1999
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 1: I know, let's just get it done. We missed y'all,

2000
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: we missed each other. We did. This is what you

2001
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 1: get when we don't talk for two weeks exactly? Is

2002
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:25,600
Speaker 1: this fucking disaster?

2003
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:31,799
Speaker 3: Well, next week I feel is going to continue the trend.

2004
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're kicking off twenty twenty four with

2005
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: a fucking bet.

2006
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 3: Get ready for a year of bangers. Oh my god,

2007
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 3: can't you want us solve what the movies are next week?

2008
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 1: Sure? Oh my god, I don't even know what to

2009
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: say about this. Your movies for next week are Goodwill

2010
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 1: Hunting from nineteen ninety seven and The Boondock Saints from

2011
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine.

2012
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 3: Tune in to it least see if I can forgive

2013
01:43:58,040 --> 01:43:59,799
Speaker 3: Milly for making me watch the Boondocks.

2014
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 1: Say, and also, I've never seen the Boondock Saints, so hey,

2015
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: first time watch for me.

2016
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 3: I can't fucking wait. And I know you think you

2017
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 3: think you're gonna know what the theme is. It is

2018
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 3: not what you think.

2019
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:23,280
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2020
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2027
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2028
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Speaker 1: with you. So good, so good. I fucking love it.

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2043
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Speaker 3: Episode mixing and theme music by Tom Bryfogel.

2044
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Speaker 2: Artwork by Garrett Ross.

2045
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