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Speaker 1: I am all in again.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's you, Gilmore Girls Gazette with Amy Sugarman and

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Speaker 2: Danielle Romo, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's time for a parenthood recap with an unfamiliar voice,

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Speaker 1: but I'm very happy to be here. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls Gazette Parenthood edition for this week.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good good. Marco's fairly professional, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I love about your shugs, and

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Speaker 1: there's so much. But your hair is always a work

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Speaker 1: in progress.

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Speaker 3: I know nobody.

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Speaker 4: They don't usually show the video, so I have a

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Speaker 4: meeting after this, so I'm curling flat ironing my hair

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Speaker 4: while we talk, which is like totally easy to do.

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Speaker 1: Totally. I've known you for almost sixteen years, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like you've been working on your hair. No longer

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Speaker 1: it does. You're always working on your hair. It's just

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Speaker 1: something we expect of you.

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Speaker 4: It's also like a calming so like the flat ironing

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Speaker 4: is sort of like I don't know, like I don't

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Speaker 4: want to say massage because it's not quite as good

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Speaker 4: as that, but it's like a calming thing so that

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Speaker 4: I can be even more focused on parenthood.

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Speaker 1: But it makes me realize that I've never been a

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Speaker 1: person that the hair has been done for, Like I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm down a few tears.

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Speaker 3: You've never.

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Speaker 1: In the process. Oh, correct that the hair is never

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Speaker 1: done for something I'm involved with.

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Speaker 4: Right, Sorry, but that's like just you should feel good

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Speaker 4: about that, Okay, I guess so you just get like.

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Speaker 3: The easy breezy. I'm not totally like ready to rock

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Speaker 3: the world, but like, so, Mark, how do you feel

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Speaker 3: about filling Danielle's shoes for the next like three four months?

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Speaker 1: Well, they're big shoes to fill and I mean that literally.

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Speaker 3: And people really like her also more than they like me,

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Speaker 3: but they.

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Speaker 1: May like you, well, I hope they do. And also

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Speaker 1: the joke I was making there is that Danielle's husband

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Speaker 1: feet she has size and nine something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he calls her schemes, or at least they used to. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: It's it's an honor. It's it's tough because I love

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Speaker 1: Danielle on this show. She's very funny, she has a

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Speaker 1: great laugh, She's very enjoyable to listen to it, and

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Speaker 1: I like the interplay.

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Speaker 3: She watches it with an interesting perspective.

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Speaker 1: We don't always agree, but she definitely does. And I

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Speaker 1: love Parenthood. My wife and I would watch a show

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Speaker 1: before bed every night, and we've gotten less consistent about

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Speaker 1: that since the kids turned into teenagers, but hopefully that'll

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Speaker 1: be back again. But yeah, if you asked me or

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Speaker 1: my wife our favorite shows of all time, Parenthood would

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Speaker 1: be right at the top of the list.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love that.

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Speaker 4: Did you watch it in its first like when it

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Speaker 4: was on NBC?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Or did you okay? And then have you rewatched it ever?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: And that's what was so fun watch on this one.

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Speaker 1: But we had to live through every off season is

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Speaker 1: it coming back? Because it was never a hit, like

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Speaker 1: are they going to bring it back? And then they

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Speaker 1: would for like a mini season and then there was

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Speaker 1: writer's strike and it was always complicated. But we loved it,

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Speaker 1: and we loved it so much that the finale. We

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Speaker 1: waited about six months to watch the finale after it

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Speaker 1: did because we did not want to say goodbye to

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Speaker 1: the Braverman's mark.

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Speaker 4: Do not reveal the finale, But do you remember when

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Speaker 4: I came in and told you about the finale?

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Speaker 1: I came in.

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Speaker 4: I think you were there, Remember I came into Seacrest. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's like in a video that went viral. I think

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Speaker 4: you were there, and well, when was the finale? Were

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Speaker 4: you When was were you there?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. Maybe I wasn't.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's pretty unforgettable because I was so shook

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Speaker 4: up after the finale.

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Speaker 3: We won't ruin it.

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Speaker 1: I was there, Yeah, twenty fifteen, So I was there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should look up my video.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, because Ryan immediately like pulled out his phone.

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Speaker 4: I was so upset after the finale. I did not

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Speaker 4: know how to function. But we won't talk about that now, Okay,

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Speaker 3: That's just too spoilery. All right, Like, let's start talking

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Speaker 3: about this episode. Where to begin? I kind of wanted

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Speaker 3: to begin with Zeke and Camille, but like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, you know. I mean, general observation is just

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Speaker 1: the genius of this show and for a night Light.

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Speaker 1: So I give credit to Jason Caadams, although I don't

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Speaker 4: I know, I think it, I know, And it's kind

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Speaker 4: of the way he shoots to there's sort of a

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Speaker 4: it's a how do I say this, it's not a documentary,

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Speaker 4: but you feel like it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's you're kind of like in it with them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the way they always right there. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen another show kind of recreate the way people naturally

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's so funny bring that up, because

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Speaker 4: we did talk about that in the scene. There's a

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Speaker 4: scene with Christina and Adam and the kids and they're

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Speaker 4: but you fully understand.

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Speaker 3: It's like, so well done because normally that does not work.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you where that does not work in podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I found that's true always.

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Speaker 4: Like, oh, these people aren't talking all at the same time,

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Speaker 4: and you can't understand one thing they're saying. Okay, So

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Speaker 4: this episode with Zeke and Camille was kind of heartbreaking

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Speaker 4: and Cringey not gonna lie Zeke going to see the

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Speaker 3: I'm uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was very uncomfortable. The whole thing is a

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Speaker 1: reminder that no matter how long you're married, you can

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Speaker 1: never get complacent. You're never done. There's no finish line,

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Speaker 1: like you always have to be put in the effort

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Speaker 1: and not and not just ignoring each other.

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Speaker 4: Well, and also the hypocrisy is live and well because

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Speaker 4: he cheated and then she they were apart when she

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Speaker 3: But it's a bit.

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Speaker 1: Really Zeke, really his is the bigger crime.

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Speaker 3: Correct, And he's so.

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Speaker 3: It's so cringey.

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Speaker 4: It's like, oh, Zeke, and then he got so angry

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Speaker 4: and we're seeing that anger come out that Adam was

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Speaker 3: So it just shows a bit of their characters.

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Speaker 1: Them in therapy I thought was really really interesting because

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Speaker 4: Correct, how did we and did we resolve anything with them?

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Speaker 4: Or were we left sort of with it being kind

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Speaker 4: That was when he was so mad and she kind

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Speaker 4: of called him out, like it's just kind of like

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Speaker 3: And that's another thing I really like about the show

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Speaker 4: It's still like, Okay, we're going to figure out what's

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Speaker 4: going to happen. There no resolution, all right, who do

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Speaker 1: We can talk about Adam had a great quote with Amber,

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Speaker 1: so we can talk about the Amber things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so I think it was for cal My school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that woman.

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Speaker 4: Now was a little weird because like, who is that

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Speaker 4: But like whatever, fine, who cares?

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Speaker 1: So the quote I loved was and I wrote it down,

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Speaker 1: good life will knock you down more than you can

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that kind of and I was like, well, I.

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Speaker 1: Got two daughters, I got to remember that one. That's

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Speaker 4: That kind of worked on her, so she sort of

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Speaker 4: Lauren Graham for doing They have that scene I think

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Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, and that's but that's such a

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Speaker 4: Well, and she has the awkward conversation with the woman

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Speaker 4: We're gonna work that in and again, Billy Baldwin is

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Speaker 4: still real cute right now, real cute, Like I like

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Speaker 3: I like the whole thing. He's like really cute. And

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Speaker 3: doesn't he ask Laura to have dinner something that night?

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Speaker 3: I think they're like going to go have.

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Speaker 4: Coming home from the dinner and I.

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Speaker 1: Don't remember him being in the show, like I was watching, Oh,

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Speaker 1: watching Billie Baldwin in the show. I don't remember Michael B.

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Speaker 3: The show, Okay, because you didn't, because he wasn't Michael B.

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Speaker 4: Jordan, because he was just the random dude from Friday

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Speaker 4: Night Lights at that point, Like he came on later seasons.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, Friday Night Lights. He was like

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Speaker 3: Came on later. He sort of replaced I don't know,

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Speaker 3: Sarah sn or something. I don't remember exactly, but I.

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Speaker 1: Love the lesson from members interview. I thought was, if

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Speaker 1: you're nervous going into something like that, a job interview,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, if you would make your nervous, it

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Speaker 1: sucks the air out of the room and it's not

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Speaker 1: so weird anymore. Totally, I'm so nervous. And then you

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Speaker 3: First of all, here's my words of wisdom. I tell

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of what you're saying. It's like, just

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Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah. And then there's another frind night Light's connection

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, like Joel's getting way too irritated and storming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the hard part is remember all these names.

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Speaker 1: It was so great and it's not one of those

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Speaker 4: I had to stop because the crying was just too

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Speaker 1: That's a word I think I use incorrectly. That's plus

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Speaker 4: So I definitely did that wrong. Well, I don't even

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Speaker 4: You see what nonplussed means.

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Speaker 4: It means surprised and confused so much that you are

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Speaker 3: Unimpressed? First of all, very hard to remember what you're saying.

445
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Speaker 1: We'll read it.

446
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, doing two things at the same

447
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Speaker 3: time is not easy. I can also mean.

448
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Speaker 4: Unperturbed, not disconcerted, which is so like an oxymoron, not disconcerted.

449
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that just be concerted, not unperturbed? Unperturbed?

450
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Speaker 3: Doesn't that? What?

451
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Speaker 2: Like?

452
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Speaker 1: That's god? Am I?

453
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Speaker 4: Okay, this is too hard for my brain. Apoplectic I've

454
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Speaker 4: really been using wrong.

455
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Speaker 1: It's a good word, though.

456
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was so so mad apoplectic. Yikes?

457
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Speaker 3: What is the meaning of the word apoplectic marked by anger? Wow?

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, so we use education a.

459
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Speaker 3: Lot of words wrong. Let's do a little menopause.

460
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Speaker 4: Let's let's talk about menopause being able to not being

461
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Speaker 4: able to do two things at the same time and

462
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Speaker 4: quickly remembering something you or sorry quickly forgetting something you

463
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Speaker 4: just told me.

464
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Speaker 3: Wait, let me see if I can remember what you thought?

465
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Speaker 3: Nonplus was unimpressed.

466
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Speaker 1: That's what I thought it was, Yes, very good.

467
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Speaker 3: You know what's gonna happen now that forever I'll think

468
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Speaker 3: nonplus means.

469
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Speaker 1: Unimpressed unimpressed, because that's.

470
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Speaker 3: What does it mean again? Do you remember uh stunned?

471
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Speaker 1: Stunned like uh so surprised that you don't surprise and confused? Right?

472
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Speaker 3: Wow, this is hard.

473
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 4: This is a lesson and short term memory than I'm

474
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Speaker 4: not strong.

475
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Speaker 1: So how long has peri menopause been going on for you?

476
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Speaker 3: Oh it, we're way past peri menopause.

477
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Speaker 1: Oh you're you're, you're You've crossed the menopause.

478
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 4: Full post full post menopause. And let me tell you,

479
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 4: I thought Perry menopause was a breeze. I didn't notice

480
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Speaker 4: one thing except for like an occasional hot flash. But

481
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 4: then the day I hit menopause, it's just been a

482
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Speaker 4: complete Oh.

483
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Speaker 1: I thought it was the opposite. I thought the worst

484
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Speaker 1: of it was the Perry. And then when you hit mena,

485
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Speaker 1: it's like you're past the point mark of difficult.

486
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Speaker 3: People are different, all people are different. And uh, yeah,

487
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 3: Perry was a breeze for me.

488
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 4: Now I'm menopause post menopause.

489
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Speaker 1: And that's been tough.

490
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Speaker 4: It's just not like I'm just like this is where

491
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Speaker 4: I'm getting some symptoms.

492
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it a disaster.

493
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Speaker 1: And how long does this go on?

494
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Speaker 4: Say somewhere between like I don't know a year and forever,

495
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 4: but I don't know. Some things are somewhere ah year

496
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 4: and fever. I hear like two to six years.

497
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Speaker 1: Maybe, Oh my gosh.

498
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Speaker 3: But some people, Yeah, let's see how.

499
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Speaker 1: Because Perry can go for two to six years, right, correct?

500
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,479
Speaker 3: Oh, I had nothing there, This says menopause symptoms typically

501
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 3: last for several years. The duration is about seven years.

502
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Speaker 3: Let's do this one once.

503
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Speaker 4: In postmenopause, how long do symptoms remain?

504
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Speaker 3: And this is this?

505
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Speaker 4: This is what I do every day just googling this

506
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 4: kind of stuff. Post Menopausal symptoms can continue for years,

507
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 4: but generally become milder over time. Though a small percentage

508
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 4: women experience of year symptoms around to fifteen years, most

509
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 4: women's symptoms decrease four to seven years. Seems to be

510
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 4: kind of coming up brain fog. This symptom often improves.

511
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 4: It is not a predictor of dementia, luckily for me,

512
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 4: because at least I know you said nonplussed, and I

513
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 4: know I said apoplectic. But if I was called to

514
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: find those, apoplectic means anger, nonplust means confused.

515
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Speaker 1: Got it? Wow? Well, I'm sorry you're going through this.

516
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: What do you got anything? Is right?

517
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Speaker 1: I got nothing. My wife is at the very beginning

518
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Speaker 1: of the journey, and she's she's concerned about the hot

519
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Speaker 1: flashes because she tends to run hot to begin with,

520
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Speaker 1: so that's her scariest part.

521
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Speaker 3: So she's nervous about having hot flast.

522
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Speaker 1: Yes, she hasn't had any yet.

523
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Speaker 3: Oh well she may not.

524
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Speaker 1: Well that'd be great.

525
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and tell her this is the thing. This is

526
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Speaker 3: what you needed to tell her. Okay, worrying about it

527
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: is only going to make it worse.

528
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,479
Speaker 4: So so and telling someone not to worry about something

529
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Speaker 4: is like telling someone to be left handed when they're

530
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Speaker 4: right handed. But here's what I would say is they're

531
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Speaker 4: absolutely not that bad.

532
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Speaker 3: They're absolutely fine. Get the fan going, turn the ac up,

533
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Speaker 3: have some ice water near you.

534
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Speaker 1: You got it. That's it.

535
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Speaker 3: That's the least of my.

536
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Speaker 4: If I only had the hot flashes. I always feel

537
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: kind of like this, whoa, actually no, no, never dizzy.

538
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: Internally, it just feels like I'm not fully solid. I'm

539
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: never relaxed.

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Speaker 4: It's like my shoulders are always attached to my ears

541
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Speaker 4: and then kind of like at night, findly I'm relaxed.

542
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Speaker 4: My voice is kind of raspier because I have no estrogen. Yeah,

543
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Speaker 4: I think it's only it's sort of I feel it.

544
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's sort of the I.

545
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Speaker 3: Feel like my blood.

546
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Speaker 4: Okay, here's what the other thing I used to be

547
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: able to, like wake up eat a piece of Sea's

548
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Speaker 4: candy and be good for the day.

549
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Speaker 3: Those days are gone.

550
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Speaker 4: Like my blood sugar is always whack. Do yeah, I'm

551
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Speaker 4: not hair falling out. Some people have that.

552
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Speaker 3: That seems to me.

553
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: Abundance of hair.

554
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, I'm doing fine there.

555
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Speaker 1: You know.

556
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Speaker 3: It's like there's I guess I saw on TikTok or something.

557
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 3: There's one hundred different symptoms and I've probably got a

558
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Speaker 3: solid twenty of.

559
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: Them, and that's probably normal. Right, nobody can have a hundred.

560
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: I think the people that have a hundred are very unhappy.

561
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm not that sure.

562
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 3: But if your wife, this is what I think.

563
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: I think it preys upon what you have. So if

564
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 4: you have inflammation kind of things, you're gonna have more.

565
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 4: If you have anxiety like I have, it's gonna skyrocket.

566
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: Right.

567
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 4: But also, like the brain fog is not horrible for me,

568
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 4: but like if what I cannot do is fully do

569
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Speaker 4: two things at the same time, so like I'm reading

570
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 4: while you're talking, and then I could not remember one

571
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 4: thing you were saying and barely could remember what I

572
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 4: was reading. But then allegedly a lot of people can't

573
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,719
Speaker 4: do that. But then what happens for me is then

574
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 4: I'm just so anxious, like all of a sudden, just

575
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 4: oh my god, nonplused apple pluck, Oh my god.

576
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: Like just so anxious.

577
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 4: They need to do menopause right in a show they

578
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: touched on it a little bit and and just like that,

579
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 4: but like, I don't think anyone's ever really nailed it.

580
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 3: Jeni McCarthy's writing a book on it though, Well that's nice. Yeah,

581
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 3: she's pretty funny she's writing. I keep seeing her on

582
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: TikTok saying, book on it.

583
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Speaker 1: You need like a very funny like my wife when

584
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: she was pregnant, she read that book by Jimmy Ivian's

585
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: wife and it was called The Girlfriend's Guide to Pregnancy

586
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: and it was very funny and it told you exactly

587
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: how it is. Yeah, no sugarcoating, and it was great.

588
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: Jim MacCarthy's going to do that and then we'll make

589
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 4: a TV show maybe. So do you know about Danielle

590
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 4: in my podcast that's coming in twenty twenty six called Listen.

591
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Speaker 1: If you Want? If you want to, Yes, Listening you Want?

592
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: She was going to be to it very much about

593
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 4: television shows and menopause, like that's pretty much like if

594
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Speaker 4: you wanted the tagline for it, what are you with binging?

595
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 3: And let's talk about menopause?

596
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of podcast, so you can get

597
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: you can hyper focus on a niche group, and there

598
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Speaker 1: was an audience for that show totally.

599
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Speaker 4: I feel like the more niche or niche I don't

600
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 4: know which it is you are, the better you'll do.

601
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Speaker 1: I agree?

602
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Speaker 3: Do you didn't rate this?

603
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Speaker 4: We got a little sidetrack, guys, but it's the first time,

604
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 4: first time doing a parenthood with Mark and me, Mark

605
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 4: and me, yeah, me, yeah, uh what did we forget.

606
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: About this episode?

607
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Speaker 5: Now?

608
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give this episode at nine point five because

609
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 4: I really truly enjoyed it while watching it.

610
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: But it's not as it's not such a standout to

611
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: me that I'm gonna give it a ten.

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00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: What do you I agree? I might go a little lower.

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Speaker 1: I might going nine point two. I really liked it,

614
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Speaker 1: and a good sign is that I was surprised when

615
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Speaker 1: it was over. I was like, well, that was fast.

616
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: That's only a sign that that was really enjoyable forty

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Speaker 1: four minutes or whatever. Yes, So I'm going nine point

618
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Speaker 1: two on that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's not like the best best, and like,

620
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 4: there's some things that I'm not remembering and that's never

621
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Speaker 4: a good sign. Although I just, like I said, I

622
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Speaker 4: love that kid in the glasses that's friends with Jabbar.

623
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: He's adorable, but.

624
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: Just great scenes, great acting.

625
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Speaker 3: We've got some things getting set up too. We've got

626
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Speaker 3: Michael b Jordan and Hattie.

627
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely gonna continue. And we know Billy Baldwin

628
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: is not long for this show.

629
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Speaker 3: I think it only has a couple episodes left, so

630
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 3: that's going to have to play itself out, which I'm

631
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: not sure how they're going to do that. But yeah, it's.

632
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: All good, solid episode. Really enjoyed it and looking forward

633
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: to next week, which is called Happy Thanksgiving, right something

634
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: like that.

635
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 3: Oh well that's gonna be good. I feel like we're

636
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Speaker 3: gonna get that family together.

637
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Speaker 1: Whenever they're around that big table in the backyard. Good stuff.

638
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep. And then how do we end this? I

639
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Speaker 3: think we say Braverman's out.

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Speaker 1: That's what we're saying. As do that me or you

641
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Speaker 1: who gets the honor of saying.

642
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: That, we'll switch it off? How about you say it

643
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Speaker 3: this time?

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Speaker 1: Bravemen's out.

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