WEBVTT - Running Mates

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<v Speaker 1>Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so nervous to always start because you always messed

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<v Speaker 1>up with do we should we have like a professional

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<v Speaker 1>start or should we just say hey, guys, like to

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<v Speaker 1>do I mean? Or maybe this is our thing? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is our start? Every time is an awkward start. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to another episode of Wine Down with Jana and Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Mike, and we're New York Times bestseller.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my good man, what insane? You guys? We are floored.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even really have the words. When we found

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<v Speaker 1>out the other day, Mike and I were just like,

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<v Speaker 1>we went to dinner and we're like, wait what what?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would have never imagined no, never like. So

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<v Speaker 1>just thank you guys for all your support for just

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I wrote this on Instagram post the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it was, um, it was scary because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>who are we? Like, we're not authors? Now we are

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<v Speaker 1>and no one can say otherwise, but do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Now, I'm like, I'm afraid it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be enough because we're not like a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn and Doyle or Emily Giffen the people that I

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<v Speaker 1>look up to as authors. I'm like, what if we

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<v Speaker 1>people are like they suck? And you know, so I

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<v Speaker 1>was so afraid that. I mean, I know, you're an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing writer and I always encouraged you, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>just scary. I'm like, you know, who are we to

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<v Speaker 1>like put out a book? And so I was scared

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<v Speaker 1>of the rejection. But I feel like, you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing that we got the title of New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times bestseller, but I feel like the win and the

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<v Speaker 1>victory has been from all the dams and comments that

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten. Oh yeah, I mean even if we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Sure, we set out personal goals and we

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<v Speaker 1>put our goals very high and we achieved it, which

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome. But that's not what you know dates us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what you know encourages us on why this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good thing to do. It's like Jenna said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the d m s. It's all the messages

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<v Speaker 1>and and everything and support that we've gotten, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from this adventure. Now the ticket is so we're not

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<v Speaker 1>one hit wonders. Just back it up, back it up,

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<v Speaker 1>back it up, back it up with part but we're

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<v Speaker 1>excited because um, we want to celebrate with you guys tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>Um well, if you're listening to this on Monday, the

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<v Speaker 1>event is October five, five pm Pacific, eight pm Eastern,

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<v Speaker 1>unwind with us. We've got Tyler Rich performing. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be really fun, so you guys can get

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<v Speaker 1>all the drama well that you've come to expect the

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<v Speaker 1>show and here and read from the Good Fight. But

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<v Speaker 1>the tickets are ten dollars and we really hope that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys join us because it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. You can also get a signed book too.

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<v Speaker 1>If you didn't get a signed book, you can buy

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<v Speaker 1>you want. So we're excited and just thank you again

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<v Speaker 1>for just reaching out to us and for telling your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We just we hope this book. We we hoped that

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<v Speaker 1>this book touched y'all and helped you and made you

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<v Speaker 1>not feel alone and made you laugh and made you cry.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, like we said, it's amazing to be called

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times bestselling authors. But the win is that

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<v Speaker 1>y'all received it, received it and gave us a gave

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<v Speaker 1>us a home to feel safe, good fight to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Pass it on to your friends. No, no, but just

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<v Speaker 1>for if you guys got something out of the book,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pass it on to others. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we want we want people to a massive people to

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<v Speaker 1>be um, you know, helped from this book. If possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and can grow from our misery, that would be a

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<v Speaker 1>amazing All right, well we're gonna take a break. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Mike said he have a topic wants to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something. I have no idea what it is, so staging. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna get to Mike's topic. Um, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just want to tease that we have Iron Zering coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, um from Nano too, and oh he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a new show coming out. We're really excited to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him. But first, Mike, what's the topic you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about? All right? We don't get political often,

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<v Speaker 1>and we watched the debates their night. People are laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, look, he's too babbling it. It's like, guess, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but what that whole watching the debates just made me

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<v Speaker 1>think of Okay, you know, because every campaign runs on

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<v Speaker 1>a certain um several messages, but usually there's one or

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<v Speaker 1>two things that like, this is what they're gonna change.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna reduce taxes, they're gonna care about the environment,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna whatever. And so my question, we have our

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<v Speaker 1>good friend Catherine Onto that's going to join us because

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<v Speaker 1>she loves everything politics, which this topic scares me on

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<v Speaker 1>so many levels because I feel like we can't have

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<v Speaker 1>opposing um, what's the word, like, we we can't have

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<v Speaker 1>different sides without conflict. What do you mean? Well? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like let's say you're a Republican and I'm a Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we can't say that without getting crap

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<v Speaker 1>or someone's upset or they're angry and they want to

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<v Speaker 1>push and like why would you, you know, vote for

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<v Speaker 1>this person that's stupid or why would you It's like

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<v Speaker 1>we can't have our own Yeah, we can't have our

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<v Speaker 1>different opinions without just and so, but it stinks that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say who you want to vote for because

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get trampled if you do one way or

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<v Speaker 1>the other. I mean, Catherine, she's also my you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our our manager and you know day to day, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, it's a suicide. Yeah, you really can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it right now. Unfortunately, it's sad. It's very volatile right

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<v Speaker 1>now though you get. I mean, it's always been a

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<v Speaker 1>taboo subject, and it's always kind of been one of

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<v Speaker 1>those like be careful if you touch it, because you'll

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<v Speaker 1>piss off half the country. But now, more than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh yeah, like don't touch it, but you

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<v Speaker 1>get for not touching it, excuse my language. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing. If you don't post stuff for certain things,

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<v Speaker 1>then you get crap from the other side. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's really kind of a lose lose, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, though, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is I've never voted before, but I I am Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>and I both registered to vote, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>most important thing is no matter who you're voting for,

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<v Speaker 1>just vote because your vote does matter. And I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to vote. I've never been more excited in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Let me ask you a question on that

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<v Speaker 1>before I get on my topic, because I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>this is the first dame voting, because this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most I paid attention to it. Right in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>I've chosen not to just out of my own personal interests.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't interested. And then I always grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>a house where like politics was when the family get

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<v Speaker 1>togethers got ugly because like parents and uncles and aunts

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<v Speaker 1>started yelling and talking over each other, and as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want any part of this. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of stayed away from politics. So my

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<v Speaker 1>question is, would you rather somebody vote just to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>or if they're uneducated, not through their vote in the ring?

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<v Speaker 1>So good question. Well, just let me just say two things.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting on my side growing up, I remember sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at the dinner table with my mom and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>and it was elections, and I was like, who are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys voting for? And they would not tell each

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<v Speaker 1>other who they were voting for. So I've never known

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<v Speaker 1>what side my mom or my dad was on. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never known. Is that like in your family too, because

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't talk about politics and religion, Like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about politics and religion. That's what we were how

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<v Speaker 1>we were brought up. Like that's just like those subjects

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<v Speaker 1>you stay away from. So that was oh, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a thing for sure, So it wasn't like still probably

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell how my parents would vote. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so interesting when you said that, because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>we I be like, mom, are you voting for? You

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<v Speaker 1>know what was that? Al Bush or al Gore or

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<v Speaker 1>whoever it was? And you know, oh, my dad loved

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<v Speaker 1>Ross Parro because he's always the impersonate Ross Parrot um.

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<v Speaker 1>But like that's as far as I knew, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>besides my dad like doing impersonations. But um, so to

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<v Speaker 1>go to your question, you know, I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things going around lately, and again I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get political because I think people don't like if

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<v Speaker 1>we go political. But they say, even the Democrats will say,

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<v Speaker 1>or they've said, and again I'm not saying which side

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on, but they have said that don't vote for

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<v Speaker 1>the candidate, vote for the issues. So well, which is

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<v Speaker 1>which is why that's a that's a principle that goes back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, decades and hundreds of years really because that's

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<v Speaker 1>why people identify as one or the other, because even

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't like the candidate, you know, it's either

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<v Speaker 1>the lesser two evils or even probably four years ago

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<v Speaker 1>when Trump and Hillary both of them seemed like terrible candidates,

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<v Speaker 1>so they so both Democrats probably voted for Hillary and

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans probably voted for Trump. So I think to answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question, I think people like, if they have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if they feel strongly about this way, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>vote Democrat regardless of the candidate. But if they don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's what I'm saying. But I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they might know enough. But again, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I never did. Maybe I didn't feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I felt like my vote counted. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, cat, what do you think. I think it's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would rather to answer your question, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I would rather people vote UM because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of takes away your ability to and I

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<v Speaker 1>there's been several years I haven't times I haven't voted,

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<v Speaker 1>but I kind of kind of gives it takes away

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<v Speaker 1>your ability to bitch about everything, you know. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of like if you didn't cast your vote,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of can't complain kind of um. But the

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<v Speaker 1>whole voting for the issue versus I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times it's like when you're more in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're kind of voting for candidate. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat, you're voting democrat. If you're a Republican, you're

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<v Speaker 1>voting Republican. It doesn't matter whether you like the candidate

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<v Speaker 1>or not. And can we just be nice about it? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>can we not just cast our own? I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that is why you don't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but why why can't we have a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy debate? And honestly, I was so disappointed that debate

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to understand both sides. I truly was like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>sway me one way or the other, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't hear anything. It is terrible debate, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>entertaining television for the thirty minutes that we watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're like, we can't take this anymore. Shut up, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, men, just shut up man, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>when I've asked this question before. You know, people, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember my grandfather asked him me years ago, why why

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<v Speaker 1>did you vote Mike? So when I'm on Educi, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell you because he was in he was a

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<v Speaker 1>marine marine. Yeah, So I'm just curiously. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to ask him, um, but you know, i'd say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm educated, so I don't want to just vote just

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<v Speaker 1>a vote, and you called me out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, well, it's your kind of civil duty

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<v Speaker 1>to be educated as a citizen of this country. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, touche, fair enough, you know. So I still

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<v Speaker 1>didn't vote after that, I didn't educate myself sagrams. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm taking more of an interest to it, I

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<v Speaker 1>think to having kids and finally growing up a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll say start listening to politics. But back

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<v Speaker 1>to my original topping question, I will just say, though,

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<v Speaker 1>to end to end that little thing, just vote and

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<v Speaker 1>you that is I'm super excited, And I like such

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<v Speaker 1>a hypocrite for saying that since I've never voted before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm so excited to register vote and be nice everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch out for Jan's Instagram post. I'm so excited. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never done able to do that, to have the sticker

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<v Speaker 1>and like say I voted. Anyways, So the topic is,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were a presidential candidate, what would be your

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<v Speaker 1>UM platform issue? Like, what would be that thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you stand behind the most that's like you're just driving

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<v Speaker 1>home day after day. So can I just have a

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<v Speaker 1>SCOREL moment for a second. Sure. This brings me back

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<v Speaker 1>to middle school because I ran for president and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I remember the drawing, I remember the big

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<v Speaker 1>poster board, and I was like, We're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a swimming pool in our cafeteria and we all get

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<v Speaker 1>fretty ice cream and pizza every day. Um. I didn't win,

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<v Speaker 1>sadly because we couldn't get a swimming pool in the cafeteria.

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<v Speaker 1>But it reminds me of that. Um, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. You you're start with mine, I do

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<v Speaker 1>okay for me, just my personal interests and belief would

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<v Speaker 1>be especially after the way would be all around schools,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, finding funding for teachers salaries so we

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<v Speaker 1>can get the best teachers, so we can get encourage

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<v Speaker 1>more teachers to work somewhere, so you know, schools can

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<v Speaker 1>have the resources they need from the schools and the

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<v Speaker 1>suburbs to the inner city schools, just we can supply

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<v Speaker 1>them with what they need with teachers. While you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this right now, you have like the presidential like you

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<v Speaker 1>got them minds like the hand, the back, the back

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<v Speaker 1>hand to the Palm America is really going to trust

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<v Speaker 1>you get it done. Um, so yeah, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>my thing. It's just like security around schools because of

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<v Speaker 1>school shooting stuff in the past, would be having teachers

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<v Speaker 1>being able to pay them. So we encourage more young

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<v Speaker 1>people to become to teers. So it's like a career

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<v Speaker 1>that people. You know this, A lot of teachers want

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<v Speaker 1>to become teachers, but we encourage even more to become

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<v Speaker 1>teachers because financially it's beneficial and it should be as

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<v Speaker 1>we all we've all learned, we all have a greater

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<v Speaker 1>appreciation for teachers after So mine would be based all

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<v Speaker 1>around schools in our future. I like that since our

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<v Speaker 1>kids are a future. Katherine, do you have a debate

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<v Speaker 1>to that or would you like to add your own.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that one. I would have said years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>health insurance or health care. Um, not going to like

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, but I just don't feel like we've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten there at all. I don't know what the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly, but something with health care. But now it

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<v Speaker 1>would definitely be the sex trafficking, hands down good one

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<v Speaker 1>that the top now he has a debt. Both those

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<v Speaker 1>do involve the kids. I'm gonna have to. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the middle here, and I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>both of those, can I steal both of those? That's

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<v Speaker 1>not fun? World Peace are either independent party in this?

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<v Speaker 1>I am I feel so independent anyways. No, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>but because those I mean sex trafficking, that's that's insanely problematic. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so obviously with schools too. UM, I would honestly say,

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this, if there was a way to

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<v Speaker 1>clean up like California, there was homeless people and um

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<v Speaker 1>needles and everywhere in Studio City. So if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>way to somehow clean that up a little, some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of programs which there, then there might be. But if so,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put some more money into it or to just

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<v Speaker 1>help or how we can help homeless people maybe get

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<v Speaker 1>on their feet, Like I know in Nashville we do

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<v Speaker 1>the homeless UM paper and so you don't see as

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<v Speaker 1>many homeless people. It's growing a little bit more Nashville

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But UM, just being able to um not

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<v Speaker 1>enable but help them. You know what sucks about that?

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of those issues that no matter which way

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<v Speaker 1>you swing it, you're gonna get backlash because uh, because

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to complain number one, that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>homeless problem or that there's you know people in the

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<v Speaker 1>valley like where we live. They're like, oh, there's homeless everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they're gonna start doing these programs and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, this is where tax dollars are. They

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<v Speaker 1>had their chance, they failed in society. Why are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna spend our tax dollars and put these programs and

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<v Speaker 1>do this housing for the homeless. And so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's just one of those topics which unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to complain no matter which way. So

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<v Speaker 1>then instead, I mean the underpass where we used to

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<v Speaker 1>live in California, there's now they put they gave them

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<v Speaker 1>for um bathrooms, And I mean there's just the entire

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the entire place is just like and then

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<v Speaker 1>across the streem like I don't joually walking across the

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<v Speaker 1>street into this Like it's I totally get your side,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's got to be something. No, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that's what it's gonna happen. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you offered them all jobs, would they take them? I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you probably half wouldn't. It's like When we offered

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<v Speaker 1>the kind bars, They're like, I can't eat that, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what're living on the streets you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I have a box of kind bars them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean to answer your question, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the hard I don't know how you Yeah, those

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<v Speaker 1>bars don't agree with my palette. I'm going to pass.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, what only in West Hollywood? A

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<v Speaker 1>good question though, what about Easton? Yeah? Easton would what

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<v Speaker 1>would you do? Marvel movies free for everyone? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Janet when you were saying, like, I ran for president

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<v Speaker 1>too in junior high school, and I like, I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up what you actually have power to do as like

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<v Speaker 1>a student body president, and it was like and I

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<v Speaker 1>told him, I'm like, I'll make the rallies more engaging.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try to keep him brief, not much more I

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<v Speaker 1>can do other than that. And then my opponents like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting ice cream for lunch every day and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>canceling school on Fridays. And he won the election, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, he can't do any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was actually a pretty good lesson in how

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<v Speaker 1>politics work, because that's that's who ended up waiting but um,

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<v Speaker 1>if if I were running for president, uh in general, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would like to see some of our

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<v Speaker 1>budget be directed maybe, you know, away from national defense

0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 1>and more towards uh. You know, we can get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of those student loans that are making everybody crippled. We

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<v Speaker 1>can brief up our health care. But there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of problems we have in this country that could be

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<v Speaker 1>fixed with a lot of money, and that money is available.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's something I would like to that I would

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<v Speaker 1>try to influence. Uh. And of course I screamed for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody and canceled school on Fridays. That's what I would do. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. All Right, that was a great topic.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, let's all just just be kind to each other. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a break, and then Iron Zering is going

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<v Speaker 1>to join the show. I'm excited to talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait all nine o two. And now you

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<v Speaker 1>have the loudest swallow swallow. What are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 1>My husband's swallows so heavy into the microphone that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, it's just like he even tries to back away,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just she's at that point. I could drink

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<v Speaker 1>water right now. She'd be like, I hate how you

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<v Speaker 1>drink water. Oh no, it's just like you're you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're swallow is just so loud. You guys been married

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, so sorry to hear your swallow

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<v Speaker 1>is irritating to you. You and me both we have

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<v Speaker 1>the whole new thing of worms to open up with

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<v Speaker 1>our therapists. Now, I mean, seriously, I mean, how many

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<v Speaker 1>do you do you get annoyed that how many times

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<v Speaker 1>people probably call you Ian? You know, what's happening less

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<v Speaker 1>and less as I get older, I'm changing the norm,

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<v Speaker 1>Like everybody knows who you are. But it's like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you because I mean people even will be like they'll

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<v Speaker 1>call me Jana and I'm like, it's Janna, But that's fine, Like,

0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>since you can call me whenever you want, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I am what my mom named me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and Janna Jana. You know you are what your mom

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<v Speaker 1>named you so exactly in your eye. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just just to ask to be called what you were named, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know? People always so stuck up. Well, listen, idiot,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is not in it's I. That's when my

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<v Speaker 1>mom called me, My friends and family called me. You

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<v Speaker 1>can call me whatever you want. I've been called a

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<v Speaker 1>lot worse than me in I don't care. I passed

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<v Speaker 1>over it right, take it up with mom if you

0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 1>have an issue seriously. Um, well, if you guys don't

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<v Speaker 1>recognize that voice and you can't see his face like weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>fortunately that's Mr Iron's earring, the one and only. So

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the show. Thanks for coming on, man, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. It was so nice to h get

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<v Speaker 1>a glimpse into the Mary dynamic between you two before

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<v Speaker 1>I signed on it. It's what you're missing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're like, oh, thank god, this is why. This

0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>is why I got divorced. Like, um, similar situation, different reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, marriage is difficult, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, the work is can

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<v Speaker 1>be challenging, but it should feel like working in a garden,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily schlepping boxes of fifty flights of stairs. And

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the night you can agree to disagree,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know in your heart you've got the right

0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.360
<v Speaker 1>person if they're the one you want to wake up

0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.240
<v Speaker 1>next to the next morning. So that's what it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's so true. And because you were

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<v Speaker 1>married for how long, I mean a long time, right

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<v Speaker 1>about nine and a half years before we filed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I don't know, it's it's just, I

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 1>mean we always obviously it's a relationship show. We talk

0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 1>a lot about our relationship, and it's marriage is just work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard. Some days you're just like like, would I

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<v Speaker 1>just be happier alone? Would he be happier alone? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's it's just difficult, and especially when you

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:10.359
<v Speaker 1>have kids mixed into it, Um what we have to

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 1>And then how old are your kids? Six? I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>seven and nine? Second grade and fourth grade? Two little girls,

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:23.439
<v Speaker 1>they're just the best? How are they? How is co parenting?

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.520
<v Speaker 1>How is that going with them? It's you know, it's

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 1>it's they don't know better, they don't know differently their

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<v Speaker 1>entire world, there's not one thing that's been the same

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<v Speaker 1>since we broke up. Very quickly, Aaron moved out and

0:22:42.680 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 1>after that school became virtual. They can't see their friends,

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>so there's two homes that they're going back. Like every

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:57.040
<v Speaker 1>foundational building block, uh, every support system hasn't been turned

0:22:57.040 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>on its side. So it's they they're incredibly resilient, you know,

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:05.359
<v Speaker 1>they roll, They roll with this a lot, honestly, a

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.600
<v Speaker 1>lot better than I do. I. You know, I worry

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 1>about my kids. They don't worry about anything. They want

0:23:09.960 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 1>to go roller skating or whatever. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go on to zoom, and they don't want to do

0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>any school work. But that's the same for me. It's,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the struggle to make sure they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>everything they need and then some. And that's where because

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<v Speaker 1>of this global pandemic, because of the social unrest, because

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:36.639
<v Speaker 1>of the fires, because of everything, the divorce, it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like there's really no way for me to win

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>as dad. It's like the system right now is is

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of stacked against me. And it's not for any

0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>fault of mine or or my exes. It's because of

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the situation that we all find ourselves in. But right

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<v Speaker 1>now it just is a particularly heavily downpour of a storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any piece of you that you're like, you know,

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously you didn't foresee any of this happening, you know,

0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 1>before you file, But is there any part of you

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 1>there was like, man, I wish I wish I had

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.639
<v Speaker 1>stuck it out or did more, even though you've probably

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>did so much work, but so that this yeah, I mean,

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>is is there any regret with that at all? Or? Um?

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, creatoring your family is not an easy thing

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 1>to do. It takes a lot of courage. Um. I

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, we tried to make this work as long

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>as possible, and it got to the point where you know,

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 1>nothing was changing. You got to have matched energy in

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 1>pursuing a happy marriage and and there there just wasn't that.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, Aaron is an amazing mom. She's

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.919
<v Speaker 1>so good to my girls. Um, you know, got a

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>lot to be thankful for. I'll always love her. She

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>gave me the kids, and uh, you know, we talk,

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>we're civil. It's uh, you know, disappointment is going to

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 1>be stinging for for a while, but life has to

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>go on. I want to show my kids what a

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>loving relationship is, and there just was not enough of that,

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wanted. I want my kids to see

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to not see disrespect. I want them to see functioning relationship.

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And I know that, you know, with the right person,

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 1>myself and Aaron will be able to show that we

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:34.160
<v Speaker 1>just did. We just didn't have what it takes. And

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>life doesn't give you a dress. Rehearsal So what's one

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>thing that you'll take into your next relationship that you

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>learned from your path that you that you can do

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:45.639
<v Speaker 1>better and you can look in the mirror and be like, Okay,

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I can own this and I can do better when

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>this conflict arises. Uh. You know, it's interesting because when

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>we got married. As an actor, you know, there's no

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 1>job security and husband and father is no fail endeavor

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>to me. So I started a business. I got involved

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>with a network marketing company to build a business. I've

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>been an employee my whole life and it still hasn't

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>created the kind of wealth that would allow me to

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 1>dictate how I want to spend my time. Only business

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:30.120
<v Speaker 1>owners create that kind of wealth. And I started a business.

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 1>And in building that business, um, you know, it involved

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>me being away you know a little bit. I'm the

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>woman who was mentoring me. Was on the East Coast,

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>and it necessitated me flying to the East coast for

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.399
<v Speaker 1>five I would leave Sunday night red eye out of

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.679
<v Speaker 1>L A X and I would fly to Land at

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 1>six in the morning at JFK, where I'd get in

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 1>a rental car and I would drive to Connecticut and

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 1>over then so I would leave, Uh, Saturday morning the

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>next week on a seven am flight, because I wanted

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to maximize my time there and minimize my time away,

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 1>so I would take a red eye Sunday night, but

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I would get back as early as I could on Saturday,

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>having the whole week to drive five miles to different

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>people's homes explaining about the products and trying to build

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>consumers and other business builders. And you know, it took

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>its toll on me. And you know, I got a

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of blowback for that, uh during that time, because

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, Aaron didn't appreciate me being away, and I

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 1>understand that, Um, she thought I was there selling soap.

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Why am I going to women's homes. I mean, I

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>got to think there's a little bit of what's going

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.400
<v Speaker 1>on there. But I was building a business, and when

0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>you build a business, there's no elevator to success. You

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>got to take the stairs. And I had faith that

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I could do this. I burned my boats. I committed

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 1>I was going to make this happen. The people do it,

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I can do this, and if I could use the

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 1>celebrity leverage, then it's gonna happen a little quicker. And

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, it took a few years, but it took

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>its toll and I wasn't as present as I could

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>have been. And when I get home from traveling, I

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>was a freaking zombie and Aaron having a nothing but

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 1>babies to talk to, like, so you just lay there,

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk And I felt so bad. But you know,

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:28.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you gotta be present, but you gotta find

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>a way to juggle. And while I was doing everything

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I could to provide for my family, while I didn't

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 1>have money in the bank, I mean there was no

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>sharknado at that time, two or oh that money comes

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and goes. Um, this was a way to provide. And

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>then working on sharknadoes would take me out of the country,

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>or working with the Chippendales, I was away two summers,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>but they came to visit me. It's just, you know,

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>it just it just takes its time. I think that

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the lesson to be learned is to be able to

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>juggle your time so you can always be present for

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>your spouse, but yet have enough individuality to do what

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>you need to be a provider. I think ultimately I

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>got punished for doing what I felt I had to

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>do to provide for the family and now, you know,

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>eleven years later, I'm at the top tier of this

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>company where now they're looking to me to talk to

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the corporation, to talk to other countries and how I've

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>built my business. So I made I made it to

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that level of success, but it had a had a price.

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that that's what cost me my marriage.

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>There are other variables, but you know, you asked me

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 1>what I would do differently, what I'm taking out of

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>this and finding, uh you know two point oh, it's

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>that you've just got to find a way to always

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>be present and pick up the cues that your spouse

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.120
<v Speaker 1>or love one gives you, because when you don't, you know,

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>you put yourself in a position where you become disposable

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to your spouse. You never want to go to sleep

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>wondering if the person you're lying next to loves you.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>It's the worst. HM. That's such a tough Thanks for

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>sharing it amazing and definitely captivating. And it's so hard

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that balance because all your intentions are pure. People's intentions

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>are pure, like you said, like when they want to

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>provide or or be successful, and you know, it's it's

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>so much easier in hindsight, which I'm sure it's easier

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>for you in hindsight now having made you know, turn

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>this business into a success and being in position you

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>are now to even look back and probably been like, oh,

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe I could have been more present. You know, I'll

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>think that way about things I've done. It's like, you know,

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and up days, maybe I could have worked a little harder.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>But in that moment, if I take myself back ten years,

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, I was working my ass off, and yeah,

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you might be doing the same thing. It's like, maybe

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I could have been more present. And again hindsight, but baby,

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>at that time, you were doing the best that you could,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>judgling everything you know, and it's that there's no there's

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>no playbook, there's no instruction manual. You know. Um, but

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it it takes tolerance by your spouse. It takes understanding

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and acceptance. And again, you know, I'm not saying this

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>was the only reason that we had broken up. There

0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>were some other significant uh flows in our ability to communicate.

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>But again, you asked me what I would what I learned.

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I think the most important thing I would that I've

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>learned was to always try to cater to the needs

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>of my spouse. You know, I and I never felt

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>like I wasn't not doing that, but I think I

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>could have done it better, or if I had more

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>of an understanding of what was happening because of what

0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I was doing. You know, I'm a very driven person.

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>My father taught me a work ethic that you know

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>is relentless. And when you're building a business, you have

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to burn your boats, especially if you're in a financial

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>vehicle that you know as a ferrari, and it takes

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>you to step on the gas. Once you do that,

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have the forward motion. But again you got

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to take the stairs and hopefully your your partner in

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>knowing what you're doing, will appreciate what you're doing. And

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Aaron did, although it continued to be challenging. You know,

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I'd come home, like I said, I'd be a zombie

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>after like driving five or six hundred miles in five

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>days and taking red Eyes out and you know, taking

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>a seven am flight at a JFK, waking up at

0:32:56.360 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>four am on Saturday morning in netiquette to get to

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>JFK to return my renal card and get on a

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 1>plane to get home. It's just like what the Silver

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>lining though, I mean, besides your business becoming successful is

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I know your girls were probably too young to obviously

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>experience this in the moment and really witness what you

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>were doing. But what a gift that you can give

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>them being able to instill that same relentinousness and work

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>ethic that your father instilled to you. To be able

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to share your adventure through building this business with your

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>daughters when they're of age and seeing what it takes

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and being like, man, my dad was able to do

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.719
<v Speaker 1>this and this is how he did it. Yeah, it

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>comes with sacrifices, but that's just something that I feel

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>like work ethic is something our kids only see or

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>only kind of received by seeing, you know what I mean.

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's something that they just wake up

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.239
<v Speaker 1>one day and oh yeah, work hard. It's it's they

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>see it from us. So the fact that you have

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that and that story to tell them is just I mean,

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a gift in my opinion. Yeah, it's uh, it

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>comes with tax but yeah, it's a it's a good gift. Um, well,

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 1>my girls to be smart, independent thinkers, um and successful

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.879
<v Speaker 1>in their own right with whatever it is that they

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>want to do, and having a good strong work ethic

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>is important. But I I think that what's important to

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>know is that they shouldn't work hard for a living.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>They should work hard for a lifestyle. And if it's

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a lifestyle that incorporates that includes a spouse or a

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>loved one, you've got to find a way to make

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>all the layers, uh, synchronous, synchronous. They all have to

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>work together. Um. I think that's what maybe was missing

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>from my build out. But I'll be sure to instill

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that in the kids. And you, you know, you have

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>this successful business, um, but you know you you're also acting.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>You have a show coming out on c W Right, Yeah,

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>so you still love to act then, I mean, I

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>know we saw Sharknado, loved it. I mean obviously nanotono,

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, hello, like obsessed, Yet this is so exciting.

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Swamp thing was originally we finished shooting that in April

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and it aired originally on the d C Universe. It

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>was a streaming app but nobody saw it. They just

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a lot of eyes on it. The DC

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Universe still exists, um, but this kind of quality content

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>cost hundreds of millions of dollars, so they weren't getting

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the return on their investment, because the eyeballs in that

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>universe were small. Now that it's moving two c W network,

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be millions of eyeballs on this thing, and

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it's so worthy of this attention because this is industry

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>disruptive programming. When was the last time you talked saw

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a TV show or a horror movie or whatever that was. Yes,

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>they're scary, they might be frightening, but spooky like spooky

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>is delicious, Spooky smolders, spooky like is what makes your

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>skin like. Look at go goose pumps right now. The

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:26.959
<v Speaker 1>swamp thing is spooky. It's delivered in a way that

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>when you put the best writers in Hollywood together with

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>top tier producers and some of the best directors and

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the cutting edge visual effects special effects production company together

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>and you hire a cast like I'm working with just

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 1>unbelievable actors Jennifer Bals, Kevin Duran, Will Patton, um Maria,

0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 1>Stan Henderson Wade. Did they call you and You're like, Hey,

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>We've got this part for you, or did know? What

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.640
<v Speaker 1>happened was my agent calls and says, hey, you have

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>an audition for a DC superhero And I was like

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>what because inside of all this, I'm still an eight

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>year old boy. I mean most men are. Most women

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.479
<v Speaker 1>will agree to that always it's a child inside. But yeah,

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 1>we are in this cater to that. This brought back

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>all the excitement that I remember in reading the Swamp

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Thing comic books and seeing Adrian Barbou and Heather Lucklier

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>clown the whole property way back in those ridiculous movies

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>or fun. But I have an audition for the first

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of all d C comic superhero to play the Blue Devil.

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 1>It's really yeah, and it's at you know, nine o'clock

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow morning. Here's a script. Good luck, don't you love that?

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>One day to prepare, I'm like a called a friend.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Another actor came over, helped me workshop it. We tore

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it up, tried in different ways, got it on its feet,

0:38:06.200 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>got it to the point where I owned it, where

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>all the words were inside that I could start making

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it my own. Went in the next day. And it

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a typical audition where you stand in front of

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a camera and the casting director says, slay your name. No,

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>this was in a small theater on the Warner Brothers lot,

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and the producers were there, the writers were there, people

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:34.280
<v Speaker 1>from Warner like, this was the room and you were testing,

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 1>you were testing it was It was basically street testing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't expect that. But you know, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this long enough that I'm not going to let

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<v Speaker 1>that slow me down. I don't get nervous. I get excited.

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<v Speaker 1>They manifest themselves in the same physiology and understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to separate it, and I'm like, I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>right being excited, even though my malbourn's dry, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you're nervous, it's the same thing. But when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about what's really happening inside of me, I was more excited,

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<v Speaker 1>So it kind of takes the fear, gets rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the jitters. You can be excited about something and still

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<v Speaker 1>and still have the cotton mouth going in. But I

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<v Speaker 1>tore it up. I did the best I could. I

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<v Speaker 1>drive home from my audition, and typically after an audition

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<v Speaker 1>as an actor so much rejection. Can't be the guy

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<v Speaker 1>every time, but you can control. You can be in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of what you present, and that's what I always

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<v Speaker 1>strive for perfection in my presentation and I accomplished that.

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<v Speaker 1>But driving home from this audition, I couldn't let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>This was so special, the eight year old boy, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I kep knocking on my leg. Dude, if you

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<v Speaker 1>get this, oh my god, you're gonna be a superhero.

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<v Speaker 1>Batic happening down, Like, shut up, get out of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to think about this anymore because there's a

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<v Speaker 1>very high degree of failure as an actor, failure to

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<v Speaker 1>get the role. Can't be the guy every time, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't take it. Personally, I do the best I can.

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm too tall, too short, wrong color, need a uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever. You don't always fit. I'm okay with that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not okay if I blow the audition, then

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<v Speaker 1>it's on me. I didn't blow the audition, did the

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<v Speaker 1>best I could that night, no call m next morning

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<v Speaker 1>they called me. My agent called and say, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>got the part. And I was like, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, I get no callback because from a project

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<v Speaker 1>where they're spending hundreds of millions of dollars, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of would think they'd want to call back just to

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<v Speaker 1>cross the t's and dot the eyes, make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guy. Like, no, you got it, I said, Glenn,

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<v Speaker 1>do me a favor calling back and make sure it's

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<v Speaker 1>iron zering that they're booking. Suppose I'm not doing it.

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, you're doing it because I'm just having a

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<v Speaker 1>little trouble thinking that without a call back, I'm the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So he did not to confirm. I just need to

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<v Speaker 1>confirm that it's my client. It wasn't like that. He

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<v Speaker 1>was more sly in getting the confirmation, and I booked it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I started reading the scripts and I talian

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<v Speaker 1>the scripts were so powerful. With this kind of programming,

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<v Speaker 1>typically it's run run run, huge action piece run, run run,

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.839
<v Speaker 1>huge set piece, run, run, run explosion. There's not enough

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<v Speaker 1>time for quality development of the characters. Very superficially, you

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.839
<v Speaker 1>don't get an understanding of any kind of pre life.

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 1>You don't get an understanding of relationships. They use some

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<v Speaker 1>of the best writers in Hollywood to deliver some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most poignant, well crafted scripts I've ever read, whether

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>it's romantic comedy or science fiction or horror or whatever.

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 1>There are so many layers inside of all of these

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>scripts that really help you just get immersed in in

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the characters you're already starting to feel. You get the

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>backstory delivered in a way that you don't even understanding

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that you're getting backstory, but it's it's happening and you're absorbing.

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>You suddenly know, oh, Abby ar Cane used to come

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>from this town. And Alec Holland, boy, why doesn't he

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.439
<v Speaker 1>wear like shoes in the swamp? Why is he wearing

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>flip flops in the swamp? Dude? What's gonna get me? Like,

0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you just start sending your mind in these different ways.

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:26.919
<v Speaker 1>When you couple that with directors that Lenn weissman, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, Underworld. You see all those and a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of other movies that like my husband, like the Marvel

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>d c just like he's like, right, he's you know,

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>why don't you know that? It's like these dudes delivered.

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>James One, the guy that directed Aquaman, produced this. His

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>company produced this, so he brought that level of quality content.

0:42:54.800 --> 0:42:59.399
<v Speaker 1>Two swamp thing. All these variables are falling into place,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm real I saying that I'm working at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the food chain here. Actor Jennifer Balu, Will Patton,

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, Will Patton might not know the name. You

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<v Speaker 1>know this guy's face and he is amazing. I mean,

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you're talking, you're talking us into it. I mean, I

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>mean you don't even have to because for him, because

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 1>he's like as a as a Oh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta I'm telling you sample this, you're gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>them well. And it's it's coming out this Tuesday, October six,

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<v Speaker 1>Swamp Thing on CW. Check it out, guys, Ian, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. We're sold. I hope our viewers are too.

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be amazing. Thanks so much. Thanks for

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>having me on guys nice chatting with hey. Thanks for

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>just being vulnerable as well and sharing your story. We

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. Thanks appreciate all right, Bye Gian bye.

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<v Speaker 1>I love his passion, and I think the silver lining

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 1>and all of that is, you know, especially with how

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<v Speaker 1>things went down with his relationship and what he um

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 1>could maybe go back. I think it's just a good

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>reminder to all of us who are maybe yes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still important to work and work really hard, but you

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.320
<v Speaker 1>also need to work on the relationship that your family

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>is in and just to remember that that is there,

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<v Speaker 1>um and that it still needs nourishing in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And but that's it's a hard balance. It's a hard balance,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're you know, trying to run a business

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<v Speaker 1>or do this or go back to school or or

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But I think it's just still important to

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who you know, potentially not regrets but would

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<v Speaker 1>if he could go back, that would be the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's something that i've you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>obviously heard before a lot too from other people who

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 1>have you know, are very successful, but they missed the

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<v Speaker 1>time with their family. Um. And I think it's just

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>learn balance, you know, to learn balance it all comes

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>with a price, and just living in moderation. But I

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<v Speaker 1>love his excitement about the projects he's doing that gets

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<v Speaker 1>me excited. I love his vulnerability he had with opening

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<v Speaker 1>up you know, around his girls and his marriage situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't forget to check out that show swamp Thing

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