1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm so nervous to always start because you always messed 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: up with do we should we have like a professional 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: start or should we just say hey, guys, like to 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: do I mean? Or maybe this is our thing? Maybe 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: this is our start? Every time is an awkward start. Hey, guys, 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Wine Down with Jana and Mike. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Mike, and we're New York Times bestseller. 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Oh my good man, what insane? You guys? We are floored. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: We don't even really have the words. When we found 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: out the other day, Mike and I were just like, 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: we went to dinner and we're like, wait what what? 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Like I would have never imagined no, never like. So 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: just thank you guys for all your support for just 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: you know. I wrote this on Instagram post the other day. 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: I said it was, um, it was scary because I'm like, 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: who are we? Like, we're not authors? Now we are 18 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: and no one can say otherwise, but do you know 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: what I mean? Now, I'm like, I'm afraid it's not 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: going to be enough because we're not like a you know, 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: Glenn and Doyle or Emily Giffen the people that I 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: look up to as authors. I'm like, what if we 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: people are like they suck? And you know, so I 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: was so afraid that. I mean, I know, you're an 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: amazing writer and I always encouraged you, but it was 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: just scary. I'm like, you know, who are we to 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: like put out a book? And so I was scared 28 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: of the rejection. But I feel like, you know, yes, 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: it's amazing that we got the title of New York 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: Times bestseller, but I feel like the win and the 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: victory has been from all the dams and comments that 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: we've gotten. Oh yeah, I mean even if we didn't 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: get it. Sure, we set out personal goals and we 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: put our goals very high and we achieved it, which 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: was awesome. But that's not what you know dates us. 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: That's not what you know encourages us on why this 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: is a good thing to do. It's like Jenna said, 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: it's all the d m s. It's all the messages 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: and and everything and support that we've gotten, you know, 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: from this adventure. Now the ticket is so we're not 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: one hit wonders. Just back it up, back it up, 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: back it up, back it up with part but we're 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: excited because um, we want to celebrate with you guys tonight. 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: Um well, if you're listening to this on Monday, the 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: event is October five, five pm Pacific, eight pm Eastern, 46 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: unwind with us. We've got Tyler Rich performing. We're going 47 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: to have a UM Live Q and a performance couple's panel. 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really fun, so you guys can get 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: your tickets available at TiSER dot com, t i x 50 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: R dot com. It's all the laughs, the tears and 51 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: all the drama well that you've come to expect the 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: show and here and read from the Good Fight. But 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: the tickets are ten dollars and we really hope that 54 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: you guys join us because it's going to be a 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: lot of fun. You can also get a signed book too. 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: If you didn't get a signed book, you can buy 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: a signed book along with your ticket as well if 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: you want. So we're excited and just thank you again 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: for just reaching out to us and for telling your friends. 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: We just we hope this book. We we hoped that 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: this book touched y'all and helped you and made you 62 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: not feel alone and made you laugh and made you cry. 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: And again, like we said, it's amazing to be called 64 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: New York Times bestselling authors. But the win is that 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: y'all received it, received it and gave us a gave 66 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: us a home to feel safe, good fight to us. 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: Pass it on to your friends. No, no, but just 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: for if you guys got something out of the book, 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, pass it on to others. So you know, 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: we want we want people to a massive people to 71 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: be um, you know, helped from this book. If possible, 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: and can grow from our misery, that would be a 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: amazing All right, well we're gonna take a break. And 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: then Mike said he have a topic wants to talk 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: about something. I have no idea what it is, so staging. Okay, 76 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: so we're gonna get to Mike's topic. Um, but we 77 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: just want to tease that we have Iron Zering coming 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: on the show, um from Nano too, and oh he's 79 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: got a new show coming out. We're really excited to 80 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: talk to him. But first, Mike, what's the topic you 81 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about? All right? We don't get political often, 82 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: and we watched the debates their night. People are laughing. 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: They're like, look, he's too babbling it. It's like, guess, um, 84 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: but what that whole watching the debates just made me 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: think of Okay, you know, because every campaign runs on 86 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: a certain um several messages, but usually there's one or 87 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: two things that like, this is what they're gonna change. 88 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna reduce taxes, they're gonna care about the environment, 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna whatever. And so my question, we have our 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: good friend Catherine Onto that's going to join us because 91 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: she loves everything politics, which this topic scares me on 92 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: so many levels because I feel like we can't have 93 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: opposing um, what's the word, like, we we can't have 94 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: different sides without conflict. What do you mean? Well? I 95 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: mean like let's say you're a Republican and I'm a Democrat. 96 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: I feel like we can't say that without getting crap 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: or someone's upset or they're angry and they want to 98 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: push and like why would you, you know, vote for 99 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: this person that's stupid or why would you It's like 100 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: we can't have our own Yeah, we can't have our 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: different opinions without just and so, but it stinks that 102 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: you can't say who you want to vote for because 103 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get trampled if you do one way or 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: the other. I mean, Catherine, she's also my you know, 105 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: our our manager and you know day to day, and 106 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: she's like, it's a suicide. Yeah, you really can't do 107 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: it right now. Unfortunately, it's sad. It's very volatile right 108 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: now though you get. I mean, it's always been a 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: taboo subject, and it's always kind of been one of 110 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: those like be careful if you touch it, because you'll 111 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: piss off half the country. But now, more than ever, 112 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, like don't touch it, but you 113 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: get for not touching it, excuse my language. That's the 114 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: other thing. If you don't post stuff for certain things, 115 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: then you get crap from the other side. So it's 116 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: it's really kind of a lose lose, I feel like 117 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, though, you know, and 118 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: this is I've never voted before, but I I am Michael, 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: and I both registered to vote, and I think the 120 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: most important thing is no matter who you're voting for, 121 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: just vote because your vote does matter. And I'm now 122 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: so excited to vote. I've never been more excited in 123 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: my life. Let me ask you a question on that 124 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: before I get on my topic, because I've always been 125 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: this is the first dame voting, because this is the 126 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: most I paid attention to it. Right in the past, 127 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: I've chosen not to just out of my own personal interests. 128 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't interested. And then I always grew up in 129 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: a house where like politics was when the family get 130 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: togethers got ugly because like parents and uncles and aunts 131 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: started yelling and talking over each other, and as a kid, 132 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want any part of this. So 133 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: I just kind of stayed away from politics. So my 134 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: question is, would you rather somebody vote just to vote, 135 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: or if they're uneducated, not through their vote in the ring? 136 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: So good question. Well, just let me just say two things. 137 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: What's interesting on my side growing up, I remember sitting 138 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: at the dinner table with my mom and my dad 139 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: and it was elections, and I was like, who are 140 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: you guys voting for? And they would not tell each 141 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: other who they were voting for. So I've never known 142 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: what side my mom or my dad was on. I've 143 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: never known. Is that like in your family too, because 144 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about politics and religion, Like you don't 145 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: talk about politics and religion. That's what we were how 146 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: we were brought up. Like that's just like those subjects 147 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: you stay away from. So that was oh, that was 148 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: a thing for sure, So it wasn't like still probably 149 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: couldn't tell how my parents would vote. It's just it's 150 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: just so interesting when you said that, because I'm like, 151 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: we I be like, mom, are you voting for? You 152 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: know what was that? Al Bush or al Gore or 153 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: whoever it was? And you know, oh, my dad loved 154 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: Ross Parro because he's always the impersonate Ross Parrot um. 155 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: But like that's as far as I knew, you know, 156 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: besides my dad like doing impersonations. But um, so to 157 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: go to your question, you know, I've seen a lot 158 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: of things going around lately, and again I don't want 159 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: to get political because I think people don't like if 160 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: we go political. But they say, even the Democrats will say, 161 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: or they've said, and again I'm not saying which side 162 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm on, but they have said that don't vote for 163 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: the candidate, vote for the issues. So well, which is 164 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: which is why that's a that's a principle that goes back, 165 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: you know, decades and hundreds of years really because that's 166 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: why people identify as one or the other, because even 167 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: if they don't like the candidate, you know, it's either 168 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: the lesser two evils or even probably four years ago 169 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: when Trump and Hillary both of them seemed like terrible candidates, 170 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: so they so both Democrats probably voted for Hillary and 171 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: Republicans probably voted for Trump. So I think to answer 172 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: your question, I think people like, if they have, you know, 173 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: if they feel strongly about this way, they're going to 174 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: vote Democrat regardless of the candidate. But if they don't know, 175 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm saying. But I feel like I 176 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: feel like they might know enough. But again, I don't 177 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: know why I never did. Maybe I didn't feel like. 178 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I felt like my vote counted. I 179 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: don't know, cat, what do you think. I think it's hard. 180 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: I think I would rather to answer your question, I 181 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: think I would rather people vote UM because I think 182 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: it kind of takes away your ability to and I 183 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: there's been several years I haven't times I haven't voted, 184 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: but I kind of kind of gives it takes away 185 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: your ability to bitch about everything, you know. I mean 186 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: it kind of like if you didn't cast your vote, 187 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: you kind of can't complain kind of um. But the 188 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: whole voting for the issue versus I think a lot 189 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: of times it's like when you're more in the middle, 190 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: then you're kind of voting for candidate. But if you're 191 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: a Democrat, you're voting democrat. If you're a Republican, you're 192 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: voting Republican. It doesn't matter whether you like the candidate 193 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: or not. And can we just be nice about it? Like, 194 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: can we not just cast our own? I mean, but 195 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: I guess that is why you don't talk about it. 196 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, but why why can't we have a 197 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: healthy debate? And honestly, I was so disappointed that debate 198 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: because I wanted to understand both sides. I truly was like, like, 199 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: sway me one way or the other, you know, and 200 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't hear anything. It is terrible debate, but it's 201 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: entertaining television for the thirty minutes that we watched it, 202 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: and we're like, we can't take this anymore. Shut up, man, 203 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: Come on, men, just shut up man, I will say 204 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: when I've asked this question before. You know, people, I 205 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: remember my grandfather asked him me years ago, why why 206 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: did you vote Mike? So when I'm on Educi, I 207 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you because he was in he was a 208 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: marine marine. Yeah, So I'm just curiously. I don't know. 209 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: I have to ask him, um, but you know, i'd say, well, 210 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm educated, so I don't want to just vote just 211 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: a vote, and you called me out a little bit. 212 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: He was like, well, it's your kind of civil duty 213 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: to be educated as a citizen of this country. I 214 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: was like, touche, fair enough, you know. So I still 215 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: didn't vote after that, I didn't educate myself sagrams. But 216 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: now I'm taking more of an interest to it, I 217 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: think to having kids and finally growing up a little bit, 218 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: I guess I'll say start listening to politics. But back 219 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: to my original topping question, I will just say, though, 220 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: to end to end that little thing, just vote and 221 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: you that is I'm super excited, And I like such 222 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: a hypocrite for saying that since I've never voted before, 223 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: but I'm so excited to register vote and be nice everyone. 224 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: Watch out for Jan's Instagram post. I'm so excited. I've 225 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: never done able to do that, to have the sticker 226 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: and like say I voted. Anyways, So the topic is, 227 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: if you were a presidential candidate, what would be your 228 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: UM platform issue? Like, what would be that thing that 229 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: you stand behind the most that's like you're just driving 230 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: home day after day. So can I just have a 231 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: SCOREL moment for a second. Sure. This brings me back 232 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: to middle school because I ran for president and I 233 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: was like, I remember the drawing, I remember the big 234 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: poster board, and I was like, We're going to get 235 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: a swimming pool in our cafeteria and we all get 236 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: fretty ice cream and pizza every day. Um. I didn't win, 237 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: sadly because we couldn't get a swimming pool in the cafeteria. 238 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: But it reminds me of that. Um, I have to 239 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: think about that. You you're start with mine, I do 240 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: okay for me, just my personal interests and belief would 241 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: be especially after the way would be all around schools, 242 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: so you know, finding funding for teachers salaries so we 243 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: can get the best teachers, so we can get encourage 244 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: more teachers to work somewhere, so you know, schools can 245 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: have the resources they need from the schools and the 246 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: suburbs to the inner city schools, just we can supply 247 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: them with what they need with teachers. While you're doing 248 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: this right now, you have like the presidential like you 249 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: got them minds like the hand, the back, the back 250 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: hand to the Palm America is really going to trust 251 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: you get it done. Um, so yeah, that would be 252 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: my thing. It's just like security around schools because of 253 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: school shooting stuff in the past, would be having teachers 254 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: being able to pay them. So we encourage more young 255 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: people to become to teers. So it's like a career 256 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: that people. You know this, A lot of teachers want 257 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: to become teachers, but we encourage even more to become 258 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: teachers because financially it's beneficial and it should be as 259 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: we all we've all learned, we all have a greater 260 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: appreciation for teachers after So mine would be based all 261 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: around schools in our future. I like that since our 262 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: kids are a future. Katherine, do you have a debate 263 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: to that or would you like to add your own. 264 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: I like that one. I would have said years ago, 265 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: health insurance or health care. Um, not going to like 266 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing, but I just don't feel like we've 267 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: gotten there at all. I don't know what the answer 268 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: is exactly, but something with health care. But now it 269 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: would definitely be the sex trafficking, hands down good one 270 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: that the top now he has a debt. Both those 271 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: do involve the kids. I'm gonna have to. I'm going 272 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: to be in the middle here, and I'm gonna say 273 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: both of those, can I steal both of those? That's 274 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: not fun? World Peace are either independent party in this? 275 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: I am I feel so independent anyways. No, I mean, 276 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: but because those I mean sex trafficking, that's that's insanely problematic. Yes, 277 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: so obviously with schools too. UM, I would honestly say, 278 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: I will say this, if there was a way to 279 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: clean up like California, there was homeless people and um 280 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: needles and everywhere in Studio City. So if there's a 281 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: way to somehow clean that up a little, some kind 282 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: of programs which there, then there might be. But if so, 283 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: let's put some more money into it or to just 284 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: help or how we can help homeless people maybe get 285 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: on their feet, Like I know in Nashville we do 286 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: the homeless UM paper and so you don't see as 287 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: many homeless people. It's growing a little bit more Nashville 288 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: right now. But UM, just being able to um not 289 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: enable but help them. You know what sucks about that? 290 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: That's one of those issues that no matter which way 291 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: you swing it, you're gonna get backlash because uh, because 292 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: people are going to complain number one, that there's a 293 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: homeless problem or that there's you know people in the 294 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: valley like where we live. They're like, oh, there's homeless everywhere. 295 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: But then they're gonna start doing these programs and they're 296 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: gonna be like, this is where tax dollars are. They 297 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: had their chance, they failed in society. Why are we 298 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna spend our tax dollars and put these programs and 299 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: do this housing for the homeless. And so that's what 300 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just one of those topics which unfortunately 301 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: people are going to complain no matter which way. So 302 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: then instead, I mean the underpass where we used to 303 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: live in California, there's now they put they gave them 304 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: for um bathrooms, And I mean there's just the entire 305 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean the entire place is just like and then 306 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: across the streem like I don't joually walking across the 307 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: street into this Like it's I totally get your side, 308 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: but there's got to be something. No, I agree with you. 309 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's what it's gonna happen. But if 310 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: you offered them all jobs, would they take them? I 311 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: bet you probably half wouldn't. It's like When we offered 312 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: the kind bars, They're like, I can't eat that, And 313 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, what're living on the streets you don't want 314 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: I have. I have a box of kind bars them. 315 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: So I mean to answer your question, I don't know. 316 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: That's the hard I don't know how you Yeah, those 317 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: bars don't agree with my palette. I'm going to pass. 318 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: I was just like, what only in West Hollywood? A 319 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: good question though, what about Easton? Yeah? Easton would what 320 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: would you do? Marvel movies free for everyone? You know, 321 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: Janet when you were saying, like, I ran for president 322 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: too in junior high school, and I like, I looked 323 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: up what you actually have power to do as like 324 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: a student body president, and it was like and I 325 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: told him, I'm like, I'll make the rallies more engaging. 326 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: I'll try to keep him brief, not much more I 327 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: can do other than that. And then my opponents like, 328 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: we're getting ice cream for lunch every day and I'm 329 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: canceling school on Fridays. And he won the election, and 330 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: I was like, he can't do any of that stuff. 331 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: And it was actually a pretty good lesson in how 332 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: politics work, because that's that's who ended up waiting but um, 333 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: if if I were running for president, uh in general, UM, 334 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean I would like to see some of our 335 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: budget be directed maybe, you know, away from national defense 336 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: and more towards uh. You know, we can get rid 337 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: of those student loans that are making everybody crippled. We 338 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: can brief up our health care. But there's a lot 339 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: of problems we have in this country that could be 340 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: fixed with a lot of money, and that money is available. 341 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: So that's something I would like to that I would 342 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: try to influence. Uh. And of course I screamed for 343 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: everybody and canceled school on Fridays. That's what I would do. Yeah, 344 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: I love it. All Right, that was a great topic. 345 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: And again, let's all just just be kind to each other. Uh. 346 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: Let's take a break, and then Iron Zering is going 347 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: to join the show. I'm excited to talk to him. 348 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: I can't wait all nine o two. And now you 349 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: have the loudest swallow swallow. What are we talking about here? 350 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: My husband's swallows so heavy into the microphone that I'm 351 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: just like, it's just like he even tries to back away, 352 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: but it's just she's at that point. I could drink 353 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: water right now. She'd be like, I hate how you 354 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: drink water. Oh no, it's just like you're you're like, 355 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: you're swallow is just so loud. You guys been married 356 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: for a long time, so sorry to hear your swallow 357 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: is irritating to you. You and me both we have 358 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: the whole new thing of worms to open up with 359 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: our therapists. Now, I mean, seriously, I mean, how many 360 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: do you do you get annoyed that how many times 361 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: people probably call you Ian? You know, what's happening less 362 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: and less as I get older, I'm changing the norm, 363 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: Like everybody knows who you are. But it's like, can 364 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: you because I mean people even will be like they'll 365 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: call me Jana and I'm like, it's Janna, But that's fine, Like, 366 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: since you can call me whenever you want, that's fine. 367 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: You know, I am what my mom named me, you know, 368 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: and Janna Jana. You know you are what your mom 369 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: named you so exactly in your eye. And I'm not 370 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: just just to ask to be called what you were named, right, 371 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: you know? People always so stuck up. Well, listen, idiot, 372 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: my name is not in it's I. That's when my 373 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: mom called me, My friends and family called me. You 374 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: can call me whatever you want. I've been called a 375 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: lot worse than me in I don't care. I passed 376 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: over it right, take it up with mom if you 377 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: have an issue seriously. Um, well, if you guys don't 378 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: recognize that voice and you can't see his face like weekend, 379 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: fortunately that's Mr Iron's earring, the one and only. So 380 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thanks for coming on, man, thanks 381 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: for having me. It was so nice to h get 382 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: a glimpse into the Mary dynamic between you two before 383 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: I signed on it. It's what you're missing, you know, 384 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: Like you're like, oh, thank god, this is why. This 385 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: is why I got divorced. Like, um, similar situation, different reasons. 386 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: But you know what, marriage is difficult, you know, but 387 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the work is can 388 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: be challenging, but it should feel like working in a garden, 389 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily schlepping boxes of fifty flights of stairs. And 390 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: at the end of the night you can agree to disagree, 391 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: but you know in your heart you've got the right 392 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: person if they're the one you want to wake up 393 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: next to the next morning. So that's what it takes. 394 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so true. And because you were 395 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: married for how long, I mean a long time, right 396 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: about nine and a half years before we filed. Yeah, 397 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: and I just I don't know, it's it's just, I 398 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: mean we always obviously it's a relationship show. We talk 399 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: a lot about our relationship, and it's marriage is just work. 400 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: It's hard. Some days you're just like like, would I 401 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: just be happier alone? Would he be happier alone? And 402 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: it's just it's it's just difficult, and especially when you 403 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: have kids mixed into it, Um what we have to 404 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: And then how old are your kids? Six? I'm sorry, 405 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: seven and nine? Second grade and fourth grade? Two little girls, 406 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: they're just the best? How are they? How is co parenting? 407 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: How is that going with them? It's you know, it's 408 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: it's they don't know better, they don't know differently their 409 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: entire world, there's not one thing that's been the same 410 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: since we broke up. Very quickly, Aaron moved out and 411 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: after that school became virtual. They can't see their friends, 412 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: so there's two homes that they're going back. Like every 413 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: foundational building block, uh, every support system hasn't been turned 414 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: on its side. So it's they they're incredibly resilient, you know, 415 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: they roll, They roll with this a lot, honestly, a 416 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: lot better than I do. I. You know, I worry 417 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: about my kids. They don't worry about anything. They want 418 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: to go roller skating or whatever. They don't want to 419 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: go on to zoom, and they don't want to do 420 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: any school work. But that's the same for me. It's, 421 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's the struggle to make sure they're getting 422 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: everything they need and then some. And that's where because 423 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: of this global pandemic, because of the social unrest, because 424 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: of the fires, because of everything, the divorce, it just 425 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: feels like there's really no way for me to win 426 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: as dad. It's like the system right now is is 427 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: kind of stacked against me. And it's not for any 428 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: fault of mine or or my exes. It's because of 429 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: the situation that we all find ourselves in. But right 430 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: now it just is a particularly heavily downpour of a storm. 431 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: Is there any piece of you that you're like, you know, 432 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: obviously you didn't foresee any of this happening, you know, 433 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: before you file, But is there any part of you 434 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: there was like, man, I wish I wish I had 435 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: stuck it out or did more, even though you've probably 436 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: did so much work, but so that this yeah, I mean, 437 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: is is there any regret with that at all? Or? Um? 438 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: You know, creatoring your family is not an easy thing 439 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: to do. It takes a lot of courage. Um. I 440 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, we tried to make this work as long 441 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: as possible, and it got to the point where you know, 442 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: nothing was changing. You got to have matched energy in 443 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: pursuing a happy marriage and and there there just wasn't that. 444 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Aaron is an amazing mom. She's 445 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: so good to my girls. Um, you know, got a 446 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: lot to be thankful for. I'll always love her. She 447 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: gave me the kids, and uh, you know, we talk, 448 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: we're civil. It's uh, you know, disappointment is going to 449 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: be stinging for for a while, but life has to 450 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: go on. I want to show my kids what a 451 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: loving relationship is, and there just was not enough of that, 452 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, I wanted. I want my kids to see 453 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: to not see disrespect. I want them to see functioning relationship. 454 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: And I know that, you know, with the right person, 455 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: myself and Aaron will be able to show that we 456 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: just did. We just didn't have what it takes. And 457 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: life doesn't give you a dress. Rehearsal So what's one 458 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: thing that you'll take into your next relationship that you 459 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: learned from your path that you that you can do 460 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: better and you can look in the mirror and be like, Okay, 461 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I can own this and I can do better when 462 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: this conflict arises. Uh. You know, it's interesting because when 463 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: we got married. As an actor, you know, there's no 464 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: job security and husband and father is no fail endeavor 465 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: to me. So I started a business. I got involved 466 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: with a network marketing company to build a business. I've 467 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: been an employee my whole life and it still hasn't 468 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: created the kind of wealth that would allow me to 469 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: dictate how I want to spend my time. Only business 470 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: owners create that kind of wealth. And I started a business. 471 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: And in building that business, um, you know, it involved 472 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: me being away you know a little bit. I'm the 473 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: woman who was mentoring me. Was on the East Coast, 474 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: and it necessitated me flying to the East coast for 475 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: five I would leave Sunday night red eye out of 476 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: L A X and I would fly to Land at 477 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: six in the morning at JFK, where I'd get in 478 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: a rental car and I would drive to Connecticut and 479 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: over then so I would leave, Uh, Saturday morning the 480 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: next week on a seven am flight, because I wanted 481 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: to maximize my time there and minimize my time away, 482 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: so I would take a red eye Sunday night, but 483 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: I would get back as early as I could on Saturday, 484 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: having the whole week to drive five miles to different 485 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: people's homes explaining about the products and trying to build 486 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: consumers and other business builders. And you know, it took 487 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: its toll on me. And you know, I got a 488 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: lot of blowback for that, uh during that time, because 489 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: you know, Aaron didn't appreciate me being away, and I 490 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: understand that, Um, she thought I was there selling soap. 491 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: Why am I going to women's homes. I mean, I 492 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: got to think there's a little bit of what's going 493 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: on there. But I was building a business, and when 494 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: you build a business, there's no elevator to success. You 495 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: got to take the stairs. And I had faith that 496 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: I could do this. I burned my boats. I committed 497 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: I was going to make this happen. The people do it, 498 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: I can do this, and if I could use the 499 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: celebrity leverage, then it's gonna happen a little quicker. And 500 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, it took a few years, but it took 501 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: its toll and I wasn't as present as I could 502 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: have been. And when I get home from traveling, I 503 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: was a freaking zombie and Aaron having a nothing but 504 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: babies to talk to, like, so you just lay there, 505 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk And I felt so bad. But you know, 506 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta be present, but you gotta find 507 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: a way to juggle. And while I was doing everything 508 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: I could to provide for my family, while I didn't 509 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: have money in the bank, I mean there was no 510 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: sharknado at that time, two or oh that money comes 511 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: and goes. Um, this was a way to provide. And 512 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: then working on sharknadoes would take me out of the country, 513 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: or working with the Chippendales, I was away two summers, 514 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: but they came to visit me. It's just, you know, 515 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: it just it just takes its time. I think that 516 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: the lesson to be learned is to be able to 517 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: juggle your time so you can always be present for 518 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: your spouse, but yet have enough individuality to do what 519 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: you need to be a provider. I think ultimately I 520 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: got punished for doing what I felt I had to 521 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: do to provide for the family and now, you know, 522 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: eleven years later, I'm at the top tier of this 523 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: company where now they're looking to me to talk to 524 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: the corporation, to talk to other countries and how I've 525 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: built my business. So I made I made it to 526 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: that level of success, but it had a had a price. 527 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's what cost me my marriage. 528 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: There are other variables, but you know, you asked me 529 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: what I would do differently, what I'm taking out of 530 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: this and finding, uh you know two point oh, it's 531 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: that you've just got to find a way to always 532 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: be present and pick up the cues that your spouse 533 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: or love one gives you, because when you don't, you know, 534 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: you put yourself in a position where you become disposable 535 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: to your spouse. You never want to go to sleep 536 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: wondering if the person you're lying next to loves you. 537 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: It's the worst. HM. That's such a tough Thanks for 538 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: sharing it amazing and definitely captivating. And it's so hard 539 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: that balance because all your intentions are pure. People's intentions 540 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: are pure, like you said, like when they want to 541 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: provide or or be successful, and you know, it's it's 542 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: so much easier in hindsight, which I'm sure it's easier 543 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: for you in hindsight now having made you know, turn 544 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: this business into a success and being in position you 545 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: are now to even look back and probably been like, oh, 546 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: maybe I could have been more present. You know, I'll 547 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: think that way about things I've done. It's like, you know, 548 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: and up days, maybe I could have worked a little harder. 549 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: But in that moment, if I take myself back ten years, 550 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I was working my ass off, and yeah, 551 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: you might be doing the same thing. It's like, maybe 552 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: I could have been more present. And again hindsight, but baby, 553 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: at that time, you were doing the best that you could, 554 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: judgling everything you know, and it's that there's no there's 555 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: no playbook, there's no instruction manual. You know. Um, but 556 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: it it takes tolerance by your spouse. It takes understanding 557 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: and acceptance. And again, you know, I'm not saying this 558 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: was the only reason that we had broken up. There 559 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: were some other significant uh flows in our ability to communicate. 560 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: But again, you asked me what I would what I learned. 561 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,239 Speaker 1: I think the most important thing I would that I've 562 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: learned was to always try to cater to the needs 563 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: of my spouse. You know, I and I never felt 564 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: like I wasn't not doing that, but I think I 565 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: could have done it better, or if I had more 566 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: of an understanding of what was happening because of what 567 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: I was doing. You know, I'm a very driven person. 568 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: My father taught me a work ethic that you know 569 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: is relentless. And when you're building a business, you have 570 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: to burn your boats, especially if you're in a financial 571 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: vehicle that you know as a ferrari, and it takes 572 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: you to step on the gas. Once you do that, 573 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna have the forward motion. But again you got 574 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: to take the stairs and hopefully your your partner in 575 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: knowing what you're doing, will appreciate what you're doing. And 576 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: Aaron did, although it continued to be challenging. You know, 577 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: I'd come home, like I said, I'd be a zombie 578 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: after like driving five or six hundred miles in five 579 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: days and taking red Eyes out and you know, taking 580 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: a seven am flight at a JFK, waking up at 581 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: four am on Saturday morning in netiquette to get to 582 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: JFK to return my renal card and get on a 583 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: plane to get home. It's just like what the Silver 584 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: lining though, I mean, besides your business becoming successful is 585 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: I know your girls were probably too young to obviously 586 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: experience this in the moment and really witness what you 587 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: were doing. But what a gift that you can give 588 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: them being able to instill that same relentinousness and work 589 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: ethic that your father instilled to you. To be able 590 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: to share your adventure through building this business with your 591 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: daughters when they're of age and seeing what it takes 592 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: and being like, man, my dad was able to do 593 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,719 Speaker 1: this and this is how he did it. Yeah, it 594 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: comes with sacrifices, but that's just something that I feel 595 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: like work ethic is something our kids only see or 596 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: only kind of received by seeing, you know what I mean. 597 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's something that they just wake up 598 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 1: one day and oh yeah, work hard. It's it's they 599 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: see it from us. So the fact that you have 600 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: that and that story to tell them is just I mean, 601 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: that's a gift in my opinion. Yeah, it's uh, it 602 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: comes with tax but yeah, it's a it's a good gift. Um, well, 603 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: my girls to be smart, independent thinkers, um and successful 604 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: in their own right with whatever it is that they 605 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: want to do, and having a good strong work ethic 606 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: is important. But I I think that what's important to 607 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: know is that they shouldn't work hard for a living. 608 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: They should work hard for a lifestyle. And if it's 609 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: a lifestyle that incorporates that includes a spouse or a 610 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: loved one, you've got to find a way to make 611 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: all the layers, uh, synchronous, synchronous. They all have to 612 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: work together. Um. I think that's what maybe was missing 613 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: from my build out. But I'll be sure to instill 614 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: that in the kids. And you, you know, you have 615 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: this successful business, um, but you know you you're also acting. 616 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: You have a show coming out on c W Right, Yeah, 617 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: so you still love to act then, I mean, I 618 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: know we saw Sharknado, loved it. I mean obviously nanotono, 619 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean, hello, like obsessed, Yet this is so exciting. 620 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: Swamp thing was originally we finished shooting that in April 621 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: and it aired originally on the d C Universe. It 622 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: was a streaming app but nobody saw it. They just 623 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of eyes on it. The DC 624 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: Universe still exists, um, but this kind of quality content 625 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: cost hundreds of millions of dollars, so they weren't getting 626 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: the return on their investment, because the eyeballs in that 627 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: universe were small. Now that it's moving two c W network, 628 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: there's gonna be millions of eyeballs on this thing, and 629 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: it's so worthy of this attention because this is industry 630 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: disruptive programming. When was the last time you talked saw 631 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: a TV show or a horror movie or whatever that was. Yes, 632 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: they're scary, they might be frightening, but spooky like spooky 633 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: is delicious, Spooky smolders, spooky like is what makes your 634 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: skin like. Look at go goose pumps right now. The 635 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 1: swamp thing is spooky. It's delivered in a way that 636 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: when you put the best writers in Hollywood together with 637 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: top tier producers and some of the best directors and 638 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: the cutting edge visual effects special effects production company together 639 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: and you hire a cast like I'm working with just 640 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: unbelievable actors Jennifer Bals, Kevin Duran, Will Patton, um Maria, 641 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: Stan Henderson Wade. Did they call you and You're like, Hey, 642 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: We've got this part for you, or did know? What 643 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: happened was my agent calls and says, hey, you have 644 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: an audition for a DC superhero And I was like 645 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: what because inside of all this, I'm still an eight 646 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: year old boy. I mean most men are. Most women 647 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,479 Speaker 1: will agree to that always it's a child inside. But yeah, 648 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: we are in this cater to that. This brought back 649 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: all the excitement that I remember in reading the Swamp 650 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: Thing comic books and seeing Adrian Barbou and Heather Lucklier 651 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: clown the whole property way back in those ridiculous movies 652 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: or fun. But I have an audition for the first 653 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: of all d C comic superhero to play the Blue Devil. 654 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: It's really yeah, and it's at you know, nine o'clock 655 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. Here's a script. Good luck, don't you love that? 656 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: One day to prepare, I'm like a called a friend. 657 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: Another actor came over, helped me workshop it. We tore 658 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: it up, tried in different ways, got it on its feet, 659 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: got it to the point where I owned it, where 660 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: all the words were inside that I could start making 661 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: it my own. Went in the next day. And it 662 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: wasn't a typical audition where you stand in front of 663 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: a camera and the casting director says, slay your name. No, 664 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: this was in a small theater on the Warner Brothers lot, 665 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: and the producers were there, the writers were there, people 666 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: from Warner like, this was the room and you were testing, 667 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: you were testing it was It was basically street testing, 668 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: and I didn't expect that. But you know, I've been 669 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: doing this long enough that I'm not going to let 670 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: that slow me down. I don't get nervous. I get excited. 671 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: They manifest themselves in the same physiology and understanding that 672 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: I'm able to separate it, and I'm like, I'm all 673 00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: right being excited, even though my malbourn's dry, and when 674 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: you're nervous, it's the same thing. But when you think 675 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: about what's really happening inside of me, I was more excited, 676 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: So it kind of takes the fear, gets rid of 677 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: the jitters. You can be excited about something and still 678 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: and still have the cotton mouth going in. But I 679 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: tore it up. I did the best I could. I 680 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: drive home from my audition, and typically after an audition 681 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: as an actor so much rejection. Can't be the guy 682 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: every time, but you can control. You can be in 683 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: charge of what you present, and that's what I always 684 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: strive for perfection in my presentation and I accomplished that. 685 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: But driving home from this audition, I couldn't let it go. 686 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: This was so special, the eight year old boy, and 687 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: so I kep knocking on my leg. Dude, if you 688 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: get this, oh my god, you're gonna be a superhero. 689 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: Batic happening down, Like, shut up, get out of my head. 690 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: I want to think about this anymore because there's a 691 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 1: very high degree of failure as an actor, failure to 692 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: get the role. Can't be the guy every time, I 693 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: don't take it. Personally, I do the best I can. 694 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm too tall, too short, wrong color, need a uh, 695 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: you know whatever. You don't always fit. I'm okay with that, 696 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: but I'm not okay if I blow the audition, then 697 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: it's on me. I didn't blow the audition, did the 698 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: best I could that night, no call m next morning 699 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: they called me. My agent called and say, hey, you 700 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: got the part. And I was like, okay, all right, 701 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: hold on, I get no callback because from a project 702 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: where they're spending hundreds of millions of dollars, I kind 703 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: of would think they'd want to call back just to 704 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: cross the t's and dot the eyes, make sure that 705 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: this is the guy. Like, no, you got it, I said, Glenn, 706 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: do me a favor calling back and make sure it's 707 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: iron zering that they're booking. Suppose I'm not doing it. 708 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: I said, you're doing it because I'm just having a 709 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: little trouble thinking that without a call back, I'm the guy. 710 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: So he did not to confirm. I just need to 711 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: confirm that it's my client. It wasn't like that. He 712 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: was more sly in getting the confirmation, and I booked it, 713 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: and then I started reading the scripts and I talian 714 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: the scripts were so powerful. With this kind of programming, 715 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: typically it's run run run, huge action piece run, run run, 716 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: huge set piece, run, run, run explosion. There's not enough 717 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: time for quality development of the characters. Very superficially, you 718 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: don't get an understanding of any kind of pre life. 719 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: You don't get an understanding of relationships. They use some 720 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: of the best writers in Hollywood to deliver some of 721 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: the most poignant, well crafted scripts I've ever read, whether 722 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: it's romantic comedy or science fiction or horror or whatever. 723 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: There are so many layers inside of all of these 724 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: scripts that really help you just get immersed in in 725 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: the characters you're already starting to feel. You get the 726 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: backstory delivered in a way that you don't even understanding 727 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: that you're getting backstory, but it's it's happening and you're absorbing. 728 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: You suddenly know, oh, Abby ar Cane used to come 729 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: from this town. And Alec Holland, boy, why doesn't he 730 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 1: wear like shoes in the swamp? Why is he wearing 731 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: flip flops in the swamp? Dude? What's gonna get me? Like, 732 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: you just start sending your mind in these different ways. 733 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 1: When you couple that with directors that Lenn weissman, Oh 734 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: my god, Underworld. You see all those and a ton 735 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: of other movies that like my husband, like the Marvel 736 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: d c just like he's like, right, he's you know, 737 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: why don't you know that? It's like these dudes delivered. 738 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: James One, the guy that directed Aquaman, produced this. His 739 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 1: company produced this, so he brought that level of quality content. 740 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 1: Two swamp thing. All these variables are falling into place, 741 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: and I'm real I saying that I'm working at the 742 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:07,680 Speaker 1: top of the food chain here. Actor Jennifer Balu, Will Patton, 743 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, Will Patton might not know the name. You 744 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: know this guy's face and he is amazing. I mean, 745 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: you're talking, you're talking us into it. I mean, I 746 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: mean you don't even have to because for him, because 747 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: he's like as a as a Oh, I don't know, 748 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: you gotta I'm telling you sample this, you're gonna want 749 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: them well. And it's it's coming out this Tuesday, October six, 750 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: Swamp Thing on CW. Check it out, guys, Ian, thank 751 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: you so much. We're sold. I hope our viewers are too. 752 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: This is gonna be amazing. Thanks so much. Thanks for 753 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: having me on guys nice chatting with hey. Thanks for 754 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: just being vulnerable as well and sharing your story. We 755 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thanks appreciate all right, Bye Gian bye. 756 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: I love his passion, and I think the silver lining 757 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: and all of that is, you know, especially with how 758 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: things went down with his relationship and what he um 759 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: could maybe go back. I think it's just a good 760 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: reminder to all of us who are maybe yes, it's 761 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 1: still important to work and work really hard, but you 762 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: also need to work on the relationship that your family 763 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: is in and just to remember that that is there, 764 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: um and that it still needs nourishing in, you know, 765 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: And but that's it's a hard balance. It's a hard balance, 766 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: especially when you're you know, trying to run a business 767 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: or do this or go back to school or or 768 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: you know. But I think it's just still important to 769 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: as someone who you know, potentially not regrets but would 770 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: if he could go back, that would be the thing. 771 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that i've you know, we've 772 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: obviously heard before a lot too from other people who 773 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: have you know, are very successful, but they missed the 774 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: time with their family. Um. And I think it's just 775 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: learn balance, you know, to learn balance it all comes 776 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: with a price, and just living in moderation. But I 777 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: love his excitement about the projects he's doing that gets 778 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: me excited. I love his vulnerability he had with opening 779 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: up you know, around his girls and his marriage situation. 780 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: So don't forget to check out that show swamp Thing 781 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: October six on the c W And we love you 782 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: guys well, so excited again Unwine with Us October. Tickets 783 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: are at t I x R dot com. See you 784 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: next week.