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Speaker 1: Efty Lave Baby on a Monday World Series Game three

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Speaker 1: pregame show, and then we'll have the postgame show after

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Speaker 1: that one concludes. So, AJ, you stole the show. At

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Speaker 1: the end of our postgame show on Saturday night in

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Speaker 1: Game two, when you talked about Addison Barger's pullout couch situation,

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Speaker 1: we did get quite a number of comments, but one

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Speaker 1: that stood out to me. Bobby wanted you to know

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Speaker 1: we are there. He said, I have an American leather

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Speaker 1: sofa bed, no bars, no springs, four inches of memory phone.

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Speaker 2: Wow. That means wow, good for you. I mean that's yeah,

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Speaker 2: we salute you. We were there. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 2: said America, not Canadian, right, so we're going true true.

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Speaker 1: So well, I asked him. I didn't get a reply yet.

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Speaker 1: I was like, where did you get this? We'll see

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Speaker 1: where these magic sofa mattresses are coming from? Because for context,

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Speaker 1: you can watch back the post game. It was good,

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Speaker 1: but AJ brought up Barger at the end and how

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Speaker 1: he was sleeping on the pullout couch for a couple

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Speaker 1: nights in a row. He did it the night before

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Speaker 1: the Grand Slam and then he did it the night after.

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Speaker 1: But that is now done because, as superstition says, he

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Speaker 1: was not victorious in the next game, and he was

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Speaker 1: not successful personally either. So anyway, let's preview the matchup.

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Speaker 2: No, he was not, No, he was not.

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Speaker 1: His team was not either. Maybe i'm Amoto slept on

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Speaker 1: we'll pull out. I doubt it.

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Speaker 2: I think he's he might have like a bed of

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Speaker 2: nails or feathers. He probably slept on a bed of

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Speaker 2: feathers and had like four guys massaging him the night

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Speaker 2: before and then after who knows what he had because

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Speaker 2: after that game he deserves it all. He takes his

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Speaker 2: own mattress topper everywhere, so I'm sure he's got something.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm Amoto's not like, what's that show? Hey,

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Speaker 2: that looks dumb. No, He's probably like, h you're pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I'll try it.

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Speaker 1: Attention to detail, it's important. Alright, let's previews to Carlos.

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Speaker 2: Carlos used to take He used to take like these

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Speaker 2: weighted ironized sheets and like, I'm like, Carlos, what are

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Speaker 2: you doing, dude? Just sleep? You know we're not staying

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Speaker 2: at the some random motel, not a hotel, a motel

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Speaker 2: on the street. Come on, And He's like, I have

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Speaker 2: to have these. They weighted. They make me feel whatever, Carlos,

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Speaker 2: whatever helps you, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Some guys bring their own pillows. That's the thing too, Crats,

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Speaker 1: you were one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Look at the size of his head. Do you think

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Speaker 2: a regular pillow is gonna no chance. I'll just I'll

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Speaker 2: flatten a thing like a tire.

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Speaker 1: Just World series postgame show after game three. We have

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Speaker 1: the pretty graphic, Thank you, Matt. Max. I like how

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Speaker 1: we have the blue and then I mean, I know,

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Speaker 1: what would you call that other elect spark? Yellow?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Orange?

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Speaker 1: Orange? But for Max purposes, I just feel like it

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Speaker 1: really fits the graphic because he's got two different eyeball

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Speaker 1: colors that he talks about and it's kind of two personas.

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Speaker 1: So you're seeing that glass now, just rocking the Classic

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Speaker 1: Baby Blues. Game three postgame will be on right after

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Speaker 1: it ends, and same for four or five, and if

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Speaker 1: there's anything after that, now let us charge.

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Speaker 2: Georgia has that.

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Speaker 1: You want one blue and one brown eye? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That is bad ass? Are you kidding me? The thing

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Speaker 2: is bad as bad ass because if you get mad,

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Speaker 2: you can just give him the brown eye, and if

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Speaker 2: you're feeling good, you can give them the blue eye.

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Speaker 1: You have to be able to do this, and then

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Speaker 1: I can't really do the other side. Can you do

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Speaker 1: both sides?

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Speaker 2: I just close the one and then yeah, that's good. Happy

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Speaker 2: sad Happy, said.

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Speaker 1: Crats always something weird and quirky to add to the mix.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Kratz, It's going to be a great

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Speaker 1: clip anyway. First off, I just want to say for

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Speaker 1: our Game three preview, AJ, I love traditional starting pitching.

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Speaker 1: There's so much bullpenning in the postseason for years now.

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Speaker 1: It is nice to just have a headline, even if

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Speaker 1: Max doesn't go deep into this particular outing, Like we

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Speaker 1: So here we go again, Game three, Max versus Glass.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know we touched on this the other day, but

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Speaker 1: John Schneider was kind of pointing to how they want

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Speaker 1: to give Bieber a little extra time. Ken Rosenthal on

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Speaker 1: Fair Territory that just was live this morning said he

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Speaker 1: has an inclination that the Blue Jays feel as if

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Speaker 1: Bieber has like one more start left right, they are

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Speaker 1: asking a lot from a guy who hadn't pitched in

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Speaker 2: Didn't we talk about this the other day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But didn't we talk about this with Shane when he

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Speaker 2: was on the show the other day. I felt like

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Speaker 2: this was kind of the thing right where most people

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Speaker 2: kind of saying, you know, man, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: that's the case or not, but it definitely feels different

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Speaker 2: every start, and so I think, you know, Shane told

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons why they went with Max game three,

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Speaker 2: so we could possibly start game seven. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how long either one of them, honestly is going to

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Speaker 2: like as soon as somebody gets on base, I feel like,

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Speaker 2: and maybe the next two I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be that drastic, but John Schneider is gonna have

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Speaker 2: a short lease for both these guys because he knows

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Speaker 2: haven't given up a whole lot this postseason, So I

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Speaker 2: don't know if on the road, if they can afford

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Speaker 2: to fall behind, if they do fall mind if either

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Speaker 2: one of these guys gets in trouble, to let it

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Speaker 2: go and let it build, because you've got to win

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Speaker 2: one of these to get back to Toronto. And honestly,

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Speaker 2: if we look at everything everything against the Dodgers, when

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Speaker 2: you're talking about just Max, because we're talking about Shane

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Speaker 2: and Max here, Like the Dodgers haven't scored a lot

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Speaker 2: of runs. They haven't given up many runs either. I

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Speaker 2: given They've scored like three, just a little over three

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Speaker 2: have to keep this lineup down, and I think they

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Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a matter of what is what

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Speaker 2: is what is it looking like? Because Max, while he

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Speaker 2: not the fact that there were some large chases from

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Speaker 2: the Mariners that you go, are the Dodgers going to

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Speaker 2: bit better at pahes out?

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Speaker 3: Of it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's out of it. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of things. But I agree with what

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Speaker 2: AJ said, But I also I'm going to stick to

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Speaker 2: what I said before that I think their bullpen's fresh. Now,

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Speaker 2: their bullpen's fresh. They can go with Max and Shane tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, probably gonna give him a little bit

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Speaker 2: more length. I think there's I think there's hope that

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Speaker 2: he would give him more length. And that would be

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Speaker 2: the middle game of a three game, three games in

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Speaker 2: a row. So who knows what they really reason is,

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Speaker 2: but to ask Shane to come back, To ask Shane

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Speaker 2: I just think you roll with him right now. I

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't think that. I don't

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Speaker 2: this was Andre Jimenez didn't a great year. Yes, he

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Speaker 1: Especially in center field. And Kratz for me, some of

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Speaker 1: what do you think so far heading into this game three? Like,

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Speaker 5: Man, you guys almost had the perfect transition before the commercial.

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Speaker 2: Well that's because they did. They didn't feel that way

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Speaker 2: It happens to everybody, It happens. It happens a lot

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Speaker 5: But I think all those factors play into what happens tonight.

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Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. Get after at ftfam KP.

434
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Speaker 2: Did anybody discuss what happened in game two, the big thing,

435
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: the Jonas Brothers concert that broke out in the middle

436
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 2: of the game for no anybody knows why reason, Like,

437
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: does anyone think that maybe that's why the Blue Jays

438
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: lost in Gosman, Maybe lost a little bit because you

439
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: had to sit there a little bit extra. I don't know.

440
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy that they're like, hey, we're gonna

441
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: stand up to cancer, which is always awesome. I love

442
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 2: the stand up to Cancer thing with MasterCard, and then

443
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they're like, oh, by the way

444
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 2: out in right center, the Jonas Brothers are gonna perform

445
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: a song, so we're gonna wait twenty minutes. Like, was

446
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 2: that the one of the weirdest things you've ever seen?

447
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

448
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: It was.

449
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 5: It was weird, just you know, given the fact that

450
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 5: you know, it's this very somber moment where you know,

451
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 5: if you've ever you know, been around someone or know

452
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 5: someone or someone within your family, you know, cancer is

453
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 5: obviously a thing that.

454
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 4: You know, affects a lot of people.

455
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 5: And you know, I have a great friend and colleague,

456
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 5: and you know Jamie Campbell who went through cancer, Buck

457
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 5: Martinez went through cancer, So you know, a moment for

458
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 5: like a lot of us, uh in the sports Net family,

459
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 5: it's a very emotional moment. You know, we had people

460
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 5: within our you know staff too, that have family members

461
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 5: going through it. It just fell out of place to

462
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,719
Speaker 5: have the concert go on right after, which was an

463
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 5: additional break. You know, in hindsight, you know, maybe they

464
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 5: could have had the concert, but maybe that was the

465
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 5: time when you know, the teams took the field. Maybe

466
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 5: that was that during that commercial break where you know,

467
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 5: maybe they're performing while the guys are warming up. But

468
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,439
Speaker 5: it did end up being this really long break. It

469
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Speaker 5: wasn't really discussed in the moment, but I think a

470
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Speaker 5: lot of us kind of have you know, had a

471
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Speaker 5: chance to kind of look back and reflect on it.

472
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Speaker 4: And he did.

473
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 5: He was able to get through that inning following it,

474
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 5: but you know, it just seemed out of place, and

475
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 5: maybe it did have effect on the players.

476
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 4: You know, the game was so good, so.

477
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 5: Competitive, it had such great flow to it, and then

478
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 5: there was this long, extended break and it just kind

479
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 5: of felt a little out of place given how the

480
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 5: game was going to that point, and you know, knowing

481
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 5: Kevin Gosman being around him, you know, getting a chance

482
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 5: to work with Caleb Joseph that caught him for many

483
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 5: years and was in the clubhouse with him. It was

484
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 5: very you know, he's not a guy who's ever gonna

485
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 5: make excuses, but you know, we've all been there. You

486
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 5: know it's something will never make an excuse, but it

487
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 5: definitely I think affected the way that the game was going,

488
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 5: the way both starting pitchers were just kind of going

489
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 5: out there getting into a groove. And you know, hopefully

490
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 5: it's something that maybe major League Baseball kind of maybe

491
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 5: learns from and maybe decides not to do it, or

492
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 5: maybe they do it. Like I said, as kind of

493
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 5: that commercial break while the players are on the field

494
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 5: getting ready for the next inning.

495
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Speaker 2: Is the Dodgers offense good? When you watch him and

496
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 2: you look back at how much they've scored in the postseason,

497
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: I think it's just they've just averaged just over three

498
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: runs per game. Are they actually are they actually good?

499
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: Or is it something that you sit there and you go,

500
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: maybe this offense just isn't gonna start clicking in the postseason.

501
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a I think it's a fair

502
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 5: I think it's a fair point. You know, obviously, being

503
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 5: at the stadium and being able to look up at

504
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 5: the scoreboard and you see the lineups. You see the

505
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 5: ops is, you see the names. If you look at

506
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 5: the names, and if we were playing in a silo,

507
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 5: you would say the Dodgers lineup is better than the

508
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 5: Blue Jays. But when you look at the numbers following

509
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 5: their names, pretty much everyone in the Blue Jays lineup,

510
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 5: you know one through nine has a better OPS.

511
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 4: You know. I think at this point you have to

512
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: go off of.

513
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 5: Recent history, you know, and not the back of the

514
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 5: baseball card. It's what have you done for me lately,

515
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 5: especially in the postseason, And I think right now the

516
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 5: Blue Jays have a better offense. I think they have

517
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 5: a more complete offense. I think there's much more balance

518
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 5: up and down the lineup. The way that the Blue

519
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 5: Jays lineup flows is a lot different than the way

520
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 5: the Dodgers' lineup flows. I heard you guys talking about,

521
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 5: you know, PAHs at the bottom and Taoscar in the

522
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 5: middle of that lineup have a slightly differ an approach

523
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 5: than you know, everyone else in that lineup. And when

524
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 5: you don't have this nine on one attack, this collective approach,

525
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: it's a little bit easier to navigate through that lineup.

526
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: And I guess I would ask both of you guys.

527
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 5: You guys were two guys that sat back there and

528
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: navigated lineups for a living.

529
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 4: I mean, whose lineup would you rather face right now?

530
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 5: One that is feels like it's a bunch of individuals

531
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 5: with the baseball resume and the back of the baseball

532
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 5: card who kind of has their own idea of how

533
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 5: they want to attack the picture where you have nine

534
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 5: guys that are all pulling on the same rope, you know,

535
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 5: making it really really tough for you to get to

536
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 5: the next guy. I mean, I guess it's a better

537
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 5: question for you guys to answer.

538
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd rather face the guys that don't I'd

539
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: rather face the guys you can strike out pitch to.

540
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: The guys that don't strike out are the ones that

541
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: are pains in the ass, right, the guys that put

542
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: the ball in play, the guys that put pressure on you.

543
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that you're like, gosh, they foul

544
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: a ton of balls off. You're like, man, we just

545
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: strike out already, Like just get this bat over. Or

546
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: there are times literally where I was catching them like

547
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: can we just get this about over with, because foul ball,

548
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: foul ball, foul ball, one through nine, one through and

549
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 2: they're like, jeez. Next thing you know, you look up

550
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: and you're in the fifth inning. Your pitcher's got eighty

551
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: five ninety pitches like that, and if you get guys listen,

552
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: home runs are cool. And this is one of the

553
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: things why I think we've learned now in the postseason

554
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: of the last few year's KP is if you have

555
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: a team that puts the ball and play and can

556
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: hit home runs, they're tough to beat in the playoffs. Right, Yes,

557
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: home runs are great. If you have a bunch of

558
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: guys that hit home runs, kind of like what the

559
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: Yankees have become over the last few years, you can

560
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 2: pitch to them and if they don't hit home runs

561
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: there they're pretty easy outs and you can get through

562
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: them quickly. Right. But the Blue Jays can do both,

563
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers have been able to do both, just

564
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of guys going right now,

565
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: and that's a credit to the Jay's pitching. In the

566
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: first two games, I feel.

567
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I mean, I think the Blue Jays, you know,

568
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 5: being around them and being around the hitting coaches. I

569
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 5: think they were able to kind of almost reverse engineer

570
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 5: what they've been able to do in the playoffs. I

571
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 5: think they early on in the season they preached this

572
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 5: very collect of approach contact, and I think, you know,

573
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 5: as they were able to advance in the season obviously

574
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 5: get to the point where they're at is you know,

575
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: they they understand that they have this these separate tools

576
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: in their in their in their back. You know, at

577
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 5: any time they could bring out you know, the aight iron,

578
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 5: the nine iron, the pitching wedge, and you know, just

579
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 5: put the ball in play and you know, take your

580
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 5: hit the other way. You know, once you have that

581
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 5: as a foundation and you start to encourage guys, hey

582
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 5: maybe early in the count, let's bring out the driver.

583
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: Let's take a couple of shots early in the count,

584
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 5: because we know ultimately we can go back to who

585
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 5: we are as a team and just put the ball

586
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 5: in play and fight pitches off. So you have to

587
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 5: give a lot of credit for you know, the the

588
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 5: new hitting philosophy that was brought in, but you have

589
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 5: to give a lot of credit to the players to

590
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: be able to buy into this, because we both know

591
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 5: this is a OPS get it done league. If you

592
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 5: want to survive, if you want to make tons of

593
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 5: money in this game, you have to do it a

594
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 5: certain way in order to get paid. For these guys

595
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 5: to understand in that Okay, you're you're telling me that

596
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 5: I not necessarily need to slug early on the year,

597
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 5: but we need to buy into this team approach that

598
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 5: is gonna make it hard on pitchers. And as we

599
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 5: kind of established that, then we can start to you know,

600
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 5: turn our focus to slugging a little bit more as

601
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 5: a team. And you know, I wish it was as

602
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 5: easy as you know, John Schnyder kind of made it

603
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 5: seem when they flew to Seattle and he talked about

604
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 5: his team needing to what was the quote he used,

605
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 5: you know, less jabs and more uppercuts, And I mean,

606
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 5: certainly from that moment on, you know, I think they

607
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 5: lead you know, all teams in in the postseason. You know,

608
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 5: obviously they played more games, but you know, slug average

609
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: ops all those things. So you know, credit to the players,

610
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: credit to the hitting staff, the collective group here of

611
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: being able to I guess get guys to understand if

612
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: you put the ball in play more often, you're probably

613
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,959
Speaker 5: gonna slug a little bit more. They're just playing the odds.

614
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 5: You know, if you move, if you advanced the ball

615
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 5: in the right direction, you know, you have a greater

616
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 5: chance of you know, slugging and getting on base.

617
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: Hey, KP, what did you see from bobashett in the

618
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: first two? Obviously didn't start in the second one just

619
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: appeared briefly, But it sounds like, obviously he's in the

620
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: starting lineup for game three, they're going to potentially try

621
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: to get him in there a little bit more. I mean,

622
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: now you've got three games in a row, there is

623
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: a clear cut difference in offense. So what would you

624
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: do when What do you think happens over the next three.

625
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think what they did I was,

626
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: you know, I go back to when he when I

627
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 5: found out he was in the starting lineup, I was

628
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 5: a little bit shocked that he was in the starting lineup.

629
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 5: I thought he was going to be a guy that

630
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 5: was going to make the roster. They had a spot

631
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 5: on the roster that was kind of being utilized by

632
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 5: someone that more than likely wasn't going to play unless

633
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: it was emergencies. I felt like Bo was going to

634
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: be a guy that was kind of there as a decoy,

635
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: but good enough to kind of pin You know, Bobi

636
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 5: shit is one of the best hitters in baseball, regardless

637
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: if he hasn't played in six or seven weeks or not. Like,

638
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 5: he just knows how to have a professional at bat.

639
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 5: He was born to be in the batter's box, you know,

640
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 5: think about his dad had, the way he grew up.

641
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: He's just one of the best peer hitters in baseball.

642
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 5: I felt like he was going to be used as

643
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 5: a guy off the bench.

644
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: Do we go to the lefty, do we go to

645
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: the righty?

646
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: How do we want to kind of navigate once we

647
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 5: get into the bullpen. But they felt like he was

648
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 5: good enough to play second base, and obviously you saw

649
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 5: what he was capable of. He made this unbelievable play

650
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 5: up the middle, a play he probably hasn't made since

651
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 5: he was in the early minor leagues.

652
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 4: But Bobishitt is a baseball player.

653
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 5: He's an athlete. You just put him on the field.

654
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 5: He's going to figure out a way to be successful

655
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: coming back from six weeks off. You have to understand it.

656
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 5: It's not as easy as hey just go out there

657
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 5: and play like normally guys would go on a rehab

658
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 5: assignment and they would kind of have this slight maybe

659
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 5: progression of you know, five innings day off seven innings.

660
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 5: You know the fact that George probably isn't one hundred

661
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 5: percent either and hasn't played the outfield in a long

662
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: time makes some decisions a little bit tougher on them.

663
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: But I mean credit to bo going out there. You know,

664
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 5: giving him six six innings on Day one, probably could

665
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 5: have played longer.

666
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: Fortunately for the Blue.

667
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 5: Jays, that game got a little bit out of hand.

668
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: He was able to get some rest. To go back

669
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: to back was probably a lot to ask for him.

670
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 5: But the fact he was able to kind of pinch it,

671
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: you know, hit a ball really hard too, is just

672
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 5: kind of setting the foundation for what I think is

673
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 5: going to happen moving forward. And I think he's going

674
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: to be in the starting lineup today. You know, if

675
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: he has no setbacks, how he bounces back, you know,

676
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 5: maybe they find a way later in the game, seventh

677
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 5: or eighth inning, you know, to pinch run or to

678
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 5: bring someone in for defense. But I expect the training

679
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 5: wheels to be coming off here soon. Is it going

680
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: to be as soon as tomorrow? I don't know. I

681
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 5: think kind of the way the scoreboard, the outcome of

682
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 5: today's game, are they up to one down, two to one,

683
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 5: I think is gonna play a big factor. But you know,

684
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: for someone that got hurt a little bit later in

685
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: his career, I'm sure you guys went through kind of

686
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: that rehab process of you know, your progression. It's hard

687
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 5: to just jump back in a game and play nine

688
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 5: and nine. You know, having these couple this off day

689
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: probably allowed him to get his feet underneath the little more.

690
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 5: But I think the training wheels are coming off, and

691
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised to see him out there for

692
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 5: three straight.

693
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I hope so, I mean, I agree. It

694
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: definitely helps the offense, no doubt, and you're gonna need

695
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: everything you can get. And it worked out for them

696
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: in game one. KP. Awesome stuff. Man, you're crushing that

697
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: out there. I hope you're having a fun, which I

698
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: hope you're having fun with just a quick transition right

699
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: to the media life. So keep doing your thing. Thanks

700
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: for hopping on again, great insight, and we'll talk to

701
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Speaker 1: I just learned something the other day that I think

720
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Speaker 1: you'll both appreciate. A j Do you know how many

721
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: team meetings the Blue Jays have had this year?

722
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: I hope zero?

723
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: Zero?

724
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: Answer is zero? Good? You know, what you're right.

725
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: There were stories about it because the other day after

726
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: Game one, after they won, writers found out that they

727
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: were chatting, and Blue Jays players and coaches made sure

728
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 1: the writers didn't write that it was a team meeting.

729
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: They said it was a one minute ish congratula, liatory

730
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: conversation to tell everyone we deserve to be here. Technically,

731
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: that's a meeting in my mind. But anyway, and especially

732
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: if it was a few minutes, no, maybe not, but anyway,

733
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: they wanted to let everyone know we don't do team

734
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: meetings this year because we haven't had issues like that.

735
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: The game used to say, good teams win, bad teams

736
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: have meetings, so they are a good team. They've won,

737
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: so they don't need any meetings I team meetings or

738
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: other than to get a good chuckle out of me.

739
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: Most of the time, team meetings were like okay, this guy,

740
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: what are we doing? You know? Players stand up and

741
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: rah rah players coaches throw the spread, like come on, man,

742
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: we all we're professionals at this point. It's not that

743
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 2: it's not that deep, guys. I can't wait till Salvi

744
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: comes on. We'll talk about our one team meeting after

745
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: we got in three bench clearing brawls by the end

746
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: of April as a team, and then Ned Yost called

747
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: a team meeting. Anyway, it'll be a good Salvago Perez,

748
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 2: So put it down in your notes. And whenever Salvey

749
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 2: answers my FaceTime call, he'll.

750
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: Come on, big honk of meat. What's the beef or

751
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: all this? Chapman. On a podcast in the past twenty

752
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: four hours, Swing com Plato absolutely blasted the team that

753
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: he spent parts of seven seasons with the New York Yankees,

754
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: and remember, I think this is important context. Twenty twenty

755
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: two left off the Yankees Alds roster after he missed

756
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: a mandatory team workout, failed to provide, in Aaron Boone's words,

757
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: quote inacceptable excuse for that absence. So here's what he

758
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: said on the podcast. When asked if he would go

759
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 1: back to the Yankees potential reunion with the Yankees, he said,

760
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: no way, not even dead. If I were told that

761
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: I was being traded to New York, I'd pack my

762
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: things and go home. I'll retire right on the spot

763
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: if that happens. I'm not crazy, never again. I dealt

764
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: with a lot of disrespect there. I put up with

765
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I knew that they just wanted

766
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: to find a way to get rid of me, but

767
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: they didn't know how. And I just dealt with it quietly,

768
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: kept playing and doing what I always do. I got

769
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: along well with all the players, never had a problem

770
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: with anybody, even the manager. We're friends and we talk

771
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: and everything. The bosses are the ones who make those decisions.

772
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Craps.

773
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: You played with him. What happened?

774
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: I have no idea what happened, but I was surprised

775
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: when he was down in Florida and they had a

776
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: mandatory workout on an off day and he said, I'll

777
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: get there for the game, and they said, you're not

778
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: on the roster, Like this is a guy that has

779
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: performed well, and he was on the outs there. You know,

780
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: to me, that looked like it was going to be

781
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: like the end of his career. And now he's probably

782
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: gonna win Mariano. Ironically, Mariano rivera Relief Pitcher of the

783
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: Year award. I don't know what happened. I don't know this.

784
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: This seemed like a lot. He just kind of came out.

785
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: I thought he liked it in New York. I mean

786
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: he went back there after he got traded to the Cubs. Remember,

787
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. This is just hey, this

788
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: is Laguera said he never go there. Remember what he

789
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 2: said before he became a free agent. Oh yeah, Mane,

790
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: I was wrong. I was just kidding, ha ha, Like

791
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, but does that beef? So does? Apparently

792
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: so does?

793
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: Uh?

794
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: The world is chatman, And you know what, he ain't

795
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: gonna go there anyways, because then he just signed another

796
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: deal with the Red Sox. The Red Sox ain't gonna

797
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: trade him to the Yankees. So I think he's good

798
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: for now.

799
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: This is his dream now, Aja, now that it's out

800
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: how much he hates the Yankees. He is, in the

801
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: dream scenario, one of the best closers in baseball, pitching

802
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: for the team that is the bitter rival. This is

803
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: his dream now. It all makes sense.

804
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: But it's such a great year and him. I would

805
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: love to find out what his other team, what his

806
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: other teams that he was going like that were offering

807
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: him contrast, because he was like, wait a minute, come on, puppy,

808
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: I can go up against the Yankees. I know who

809
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: hates I know who the Yankees hate more than anybody,

810
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: and I mean during that time, during that twenty one

811
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: twenty two time, I had just left there. So there

812
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: was guys that were you know that I knew, you know,

813
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: there was there was definitely some stuff that the front

814
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: office wasn't putting up with, and maybe there was some

815
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: things that hey, you know what, we're not putting up

816
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: with this. We're not putting up with the way you

817
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: do a certain thing, how you handle a certain thing,

818
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: which is weird because as veterans, you can you can

819
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: not that you can miss a workout, but as a closer,

820
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: the guy goes down to the bullpen and like the

821
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 2: sixth inning, you need him there for a mandatory workout.

822
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: There had to be there had to be other things.

823
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: There had to be things that precipitated just that one instance,

824
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: and they said, you know what, we're gonna part ways,

825
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: and they did, and now he's pitching well for the

826
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: Red Sox. So it's kind of like a little extra

827
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: motivation at thirty seven for Chappie.

828
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Speaker 1: It's also not a guy with a fitness issue. He

829
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: keeps himself in pretty damn good shape. I mean, he's

830
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: a freaking truck so aj do you think that, I mean,

831
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: without knowing the case by case. Here Chapman kind of

832
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: does his own thing a little bit, and the Yankees

833
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: don't like that style.

834
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: Everybody does their own things, Scott, have you not? Have

835
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: you not watched baseball? Guys don't hit on the field,

836
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: Guys throw when they want to, Guys go to the

837
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: bullpen when they want to. Like, this is not a

838
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: new thing. This is the last ten years. This has

839
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: been happening. So show hey does his own thing, right,

840
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: I mean, they all do their own thing now. So

841
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I think like it's kind

842
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 2: of what Crad said something else. It's probably happened that

843
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: we don't know about, and the Yankees just were fed

844
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: up with it and it just led one. It's kind

845
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: of like one thing, and it wasn't one thing. It

846
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: was a culmination of a bunch of accumulation of a

847
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: bunch of things. So I don't I don't know. But

848
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: you know what, Chubby, you had a great year, and

849
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: say whatever you want. You don't want to go back

850
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: to the Yankees, you don't have to. Okay, that's it.

851
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: They're not gonna trade you there anyway, so you'll be fine.

852
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: But I love it. I love it add field to

853
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 2: the fire of the rivalry.

854
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: Let's go, oh yeah, this ads beef to next year? Kratz,

855
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: Is there specific timing, like are the Yankees stricter about

856
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: when you have to show up to something? Do you

857
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: have any guesses as to what would cause this? Or

858
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: you just think there were some specific situations that occurred

859
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: that we don't know everything about. And that's what he

860
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: was hinting at. He disagreed with them on some things

861
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: and ended up hating them and it ended poorly. As

862
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: I mentioned that part. We do know. We do know

863
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two left off there because you didn't attend

864
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Speaker 1: this workout. That's the only thing we know. Like you

865
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Speaker 1: guys said, probably more that occurred, spent a lot of time.

866
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Speaker 1: I'm there too, seven years.

867
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Speaker 2: But like even like you know, the shave policy and

868
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: stuff like, come on, like, guys, Scott, you make more

869
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 2: of a big deal. You made more of a big

870
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: deal out of it than any player that I ever

871
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Speaker 2: played with. Did they mention it? Yeah, But like there's

872
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: no strict rules. Boonie's very good at like talking to

873
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,959
Speaker 2: guys about Hey, you know what you know, it's fine

874
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: if you do this, like during COVID. I lived at

875
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: my house two hours away from Yankee Stadium. Like if

876
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: they were like the strict organization where it's like, hey,

877
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: you got to do this and you gotta be in

878
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: a team hotel and you gotta know, they just want

879
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: dudes to come to the ballpark, work hard and get

880
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: stuff done. Now, Chappie doesn't lift at the ballpark. Was

881
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: that part of it? Like He's like, I'm gonna go

882
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: to La Fitness whenever i want because look at this physique.

883
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lift the way I want. You know, maybe

884
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: that was part of it, but I just we're only speculating,

885
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: and speculating doesn't get us anywhere. So to me, it

886
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: wasn't just one instance.

887
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's good to know. That's still helpful insight. Hey's

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00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: f tea presented by Fox one and a reminder to

889
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: everyone that the World Series continues this week and aj

890
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: if someone doesn't have cable, for example, what could they do?

891
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: Hint it's below you.

892
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: They could stream and get their free seven day trial.

893
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: Especially to finish the World Series on Fox One. You

894
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Speaker 2: had all the sports, you get a big noon, you

895
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: had all the shows, you get everything that Fox has

896
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: to offer and sometimes next year if you keep it,

897
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Speaker 2: you'll get me calling games. So just go to foxone

898
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Speaker 2: dot com. It's a little app you can have. I've

899
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: watched it plenty of times. It's really easy.

900
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Speaker 1: Walking by walking by the app. You never played like

901
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: the Shadow game where you could like make a shadow

902
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Speaker 1: all right, big leaguers. Yeah, anyway, a QR cote on

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Speaker 1: the screen seven day free trial foxwe dot com while

904
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: we have a moment and there you go, there's Brady

905
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: and Company. Thank you? Can we show this tweet from

906
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: Ben Nicholson Smith. People want to know what stars say

907
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: to other stars. Flatty Junior talking about his interactions with

908
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: Otani during the World Series, he said, they talk in

909
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: English about family or maybe situations happening in the game.

910
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: He's always trying to get me to smile. I do

911
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: the same thing to him. I try. It's just normal.

912
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. Aga. Have you seen some of

913
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: the faces from Otani. He'll make funny faces at first sometimes,

914
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: like when they said we don't need you and he was.

915
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: Like, ooh, yeah, I think he's going great. I think

916
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: Showtani has been great. He's come out of his shell

917
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: a little bit here in this world series, and it's

918
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: been fun to watch. You know what always cracks me

919
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: up is he hits these foul balls and he like

920
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: just like, oh, I'm so sorry to the other team.

921
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: I'd be like, man, I hope it's our best pitcher,

922
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: so that he didn't have to pitch against his like,

923
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: you know, like instead he's like, oh, I'm so sorry,

924
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I mean, it's been great to see

925
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: him come out of the show a little bit. And

926
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Speaker 2: you can see that all on Fox one.

927
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Speaker 1: That is correct. Yeah, more Otani faces. Yeah, but at

928
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: least three games left of that, hopefully maybe five if

929
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Speaker 1: you're just looking for the good stuff and for this

930
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: series to go seven. Hey, we're back for two minutes.

931
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Speaker 1: We hadn't gotten to this one yet. The Guardians denied.

932
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Class has asked to pitch in Venezuela during this

933
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: MLBE investigation. He's from the DR they're also not letting

934
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: him play, and he's apparently suing the Dominican League and

935
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Speaker 1: the president of that league, and so is Luis Ortiz.

936
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Speaker 1: But wait, back up, back up, aj, don't players have

937
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: to get permission to participate in these winter leagues?

938
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Speaker 2: I thought of it. I thought they did crouch enough

939
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: to tell me that. I thought you had too. I

940
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Speaker 2: thought the team had to okay it. I didn't think

941
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: you could just go up go and say I'm playing

942
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 2: on my own. I've never other than a guy coming

943
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: off injury. I mean, obviously there's a whole different situation.

944
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Speaker 2: I've never heard of anybody being declined going if they

945
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Speaker 2: want to go and the organization thinks it's a good

946
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: thing for him. Now, if they were hurt or they

947
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: you know, played too much, maybe, but this whole thing

948
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: is weird. He wants to go pitch in Venezuela, but

949
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Speaker 2: he's not coming back to the US anytime soon if

950
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: any of these allegations are true. And we just saw

951
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: what happened in the NBA with all that going down,

952
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: So I don't know what he's going to do. But

953
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: I don't know he can't. I mean, he's technically still

954
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: part of the Guardians for now, right until he becomes

955
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Speaker 2: a free agent.

956
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

957
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Speaker 1: I think he's been on paid lead the whole time,

958
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: so you're not getting paid by them and then doing

959
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Sometimes krats guys are hurt and then

960
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: the teams are like, yeah, you're not playing in the

961
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: Winner League this year. Dude, we got to get you

962
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Speaker 1: back on the field.

963
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: It's a fight. It's a fight that some guys have

964
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: a lot of the Dominican Venezuelan guys they want to

965
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: play like that's their off season workouts is to play baseball.

966
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Speaker 2: And if Class A goes to Venezuela to play, he

967
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: makes more money because locals in winter ball don't make

968
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: that much money as much. Play another cud.

969
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a long time. If you're in a

970
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: s you should be streaming in the weeds. Last thoughts

971
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: here previewing Game three, and then we'll have our postgame

972
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: show after Game three we can mix in now. Adrian

973
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: Johnson did not have a great performance and some Blue

974
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: Jays fans were pissed. I don't think you were stopping

975
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: Yamamoto either way. So how do you stop this train?

976
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: If you're Toronto and if you're the Dodgers, AJ, do

977
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: you think that Glass now will get a longer leash

978
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: than he usually does. I know it's game situation specific,

979
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: but if the stuff looks pretty good, even if he

980
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Speaker 1: gets touched up for a homer, you know, a run

981
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: here and there, do you have to stick to the

982
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: game plan if you're Doc Roberts and avoid bullpen at

983
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Speaker 1: all costs.

984
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: We their bullpen hasn't been great. I mean in this

985
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: postseason it's been Sazaki and now again with Vessie and

986
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: not there for personal reasons. It's been kind of a

987
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: hit or miss. So I think Gosta has got to

988
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: give him six. You know, He's gone out there and pitched.

989
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 2: And one thing we've learned about the Dodgers and Dave Roberts,

990
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: they adjust to their team this year. They're more starter

991
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 2: heavy than in the past had been bullpen heavy. So

992
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 2: what's he doing. He's leaning on his starters morning. I

993
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 2: think last night I will get to throw a hundred

994
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: to one hundred and ten pitches again and get ready

995
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: if they have a possible game seven. But yeah, I

996
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: think they're trying to go as deep as they can

997
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: with starters because normally in the past, Roberts would have

998
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: taken out Yamamoto even though he was throwing a gym

999
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: and said, oh, well one hundred pitches is the limit.

1000
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: He let him go over one hundred and ten. So

1001
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 2: it's a different Dodgers this year.

1002
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Very rested Roki Sasaki too. Keep that in mind, he

1003
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: could go two innings. I mean, I know he's done three.

1004
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: He could do three innings, like it's possible, right, this

1005
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: is a tight game, crats and Roki puts in. Let's say

1006
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: it's the seventh inning and that's where they feel like

1007
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: it's Rokie time. They could keep riding them out if

1008
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: they're up a run, they could do three innings like

1009
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: he's capable.

1010
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Dan Wilson might need to cover his ears,

1011
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: but you don't get to the ninth without getting through

1012
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: the seventh and the eighth. Like it's it's okay to

1013
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: like Glasnow's not going to give them tons of innings.

1014
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: It's not about the inning tonight. It's what Aj said.

1015
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: You know, I would say that range is probably anywhere

1016
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: from ninety ninety five to one hundred and ten. I

1017
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 2: think his last no, not his last start to start

1018
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: against the Phillies, he was dealing with cramps. He was

1019
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: dealing with his hand cramping up. He's just going to

1020
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: take his glove off, and he was dealing with that.

1021
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: So you know, there's a shelf life for him. But

1022
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: essentially glass now stuff is reliever stuff. He just gets

1023
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: to throw one hundred pitches. So yeah, I mean I

1024
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: think I think if I were to send an over under,

1025
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: I would say one hundred pitches and I would go,

1026
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: he's gonna go under. But man, it's gonna be close.

1027
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: He's They're just they're gonna throw him out there. Even

1028
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: if it's like he gets gives up two or three runs,

1029
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: three or four runs, I think they keep him in there.

1030
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, sometimes Glass now is a slow starter,

1031
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: and then he gets ridiculous and dials it in. Sometimes

1032
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: first or second inning is the problem spot, which is

1033
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: the case for many starters, but for him in particular.

1034
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: You can look at some numbers there and then he

1035
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: just gets on a heater three through five or six.

1036
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 2: So keep all the time, all the time. He walks, guys.

1037
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: So if you're Dave Roberts and you're sitting there, going

1038
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: he's got to be perfect. I can't take him out,

1039
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, I can't keep in there unless he's perfect.

1040
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: Tonight's not the night. You gotta look at him and

1041
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I see you know he overcooked that

1042
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: high four seam fastball and that natural cut ran it

1043
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: off the plate like the curveballs, never landing in the zone.

1044
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: They're not swinging at that yard dart bounced curveball that

1045
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 2: I think some teams do, so to me, that's how

1046
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: you got to evaluate it. But he is he is

1047
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 2: always going to walk somebody. I would take the over

1048
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: of two or three walks here just because that's just

1049
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: kind of where he's at. And can you navigate the

1050
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: lineup and get your pitches where you're then striking out

1051
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: to dudes?

1052
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: And there is the upscore card for Adrian Johnson. He

1053
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: ended up at an eighty seven percent correct call rate,

1054
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 1: the lowest rated umpire this season had an average credit

1055
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: call rate of eighty nine point seven percent. Johnson missed

1056
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: fourteen calls. You know, watching this game, AJ, I didn't

1057
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: feel like, oh this is egregious, but I mean there

1058
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: are obviously a few misses, like it's not ideal, and

1059
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: there were definitely some misses both you know in zone

1060
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 1: called ball, out zone called strike that an ABS challenge

1061
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: system would have wiped away next year. So it just

1062
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: plays to the point from last year. I mean, I

1063
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: said this last week, broken record, but Adrian Johnson's numbers

1064
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: are not up to par for this. It just they're not.

1065
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't an awful game. I mean, it wasn't the worst.

1066
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 2: I don't remember watching that game saying, oh we missed

1067
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: that call was just terrible. I mean there was a

1068
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: couple that were close here and there, so I don't know.

1069
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 2: I mean, they.

1070
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Speaker 1: Weren't strike threes. That's part of it too. They weren't

1071
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: two strike misses. From what I recall, that was part

1072
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Speaker 1: of it too. I'm looking now, you know. I mean

1073
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Speaker 1: one of them was is at bottom of the ninth

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Speaker 1: Yamamoto versus Guerrero, O two count strike called a ball.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if you look at it, he

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Speaker 2: went for the Blue Jays. So the blue Jays answer

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Speaker 2: a complain almost.

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Speaker 1: Right right. It worked out in the Toronto favor and

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Speaker 1: it didn't matter. So just pointing it out though, just

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Speaker 1: to keep the accountability going. This was the one who

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Speaker 1: was rated much lower than everyone else, and yeah, he

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Speaker 1: definitely missed, but those misses didn't end up proving very

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Speaker 1: costly in the game. Sometimes you really feel it. It's

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Speaker 1: Hey real quick, because we keep getting coaching news. Jeff

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Speaker 1: Passingers reported Antoine Richardson, Mets first base coach didn't come

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Speaker 1: to terms with the Mets, and they loved him. I

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Speaker 1: know that from some direct sources. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: happened yet, But do you guys think it was like

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Speaker 1: a money thing. I mean, the Mets stole a lot

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Speaker 1: of bases. I mean, look at Wan Soto did this year.

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Speaker 1: They weren't all garbage time stolen bags like Richardson had.

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Speaker 1: Some of those guys really timed up what happens when

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Speaker 1: a guy doesn't come back. But it sounded like, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, it's weird. That's a weird one to me

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Speaker 2: that this seems like, you know, they go to Carlos

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Speaker 2: Mendoza say, you know you got to change coaches and

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Speaker 2: he was the sacrificial lamb. I don't know Kratz and

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Speaker 2: first base coaches, you have that big of an argument

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Speaker 2: but I mean, I don't know. You just never think

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Speaker 2: you hear that from the Mets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's fun personality. Maybe we'll get him on to

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Speaker 1: ask him about it. See you after the game. It's

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