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Speaker 1: It's Monday, August, the first Happy Birthday Horses in Australia,

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Speaker 1: and welcome everybody to a new week of no dunks,

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Speaker 1: well somewhat of a new week anyway. We're starting off

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Speaker 1: with a little something different here. It's me solo in

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Speaker 1: the studio. I'm flying solo within here. But of course

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Speaker 1: I'm not really by myself because the man making the

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Speaker 1: magic happen. Nothing would happen without JD JD. Hello, how

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Speaker 1: you doing, Welcome back, Lee, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You, thank you.

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Speaker 1: While yeah, it's been a few weeks, took some time

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Speaker 1: off with the family, did some traveling and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: good to be back in the studio and back to

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Speaker 1: the grind.

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Speaker 3: You look maxed and relaxed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't say it was the most relaxing trip.

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Speaker 1: I would say we tried to max it out as

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Speaker 1: much as we could, But yeah, not, Europe's a little bit. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not looking for any pity for anyone out a

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Speaker 1: great time, no doubt about that, but certainly there was

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Speaker 1: a feeling that people were ready to get out and

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Speaker 1: travel and yeah, we had some fun times. What about yourself?

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Speaker 1: How things since I lasted your Vegas?

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Speaker 3: You know, holding it down. We're launching new shows left

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Speaker 3: and race. Yes, we got no buns, we got no breaks.

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Speaker 3: It's a been a very busy off season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Usually it's a little you know, take some time, but no,

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Speaker 3: we're cranking things out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And you're the only common denominator with all these shows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to hire somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, so I'll tell you what we've got coming up

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Speaker 1: ahead here For those who are in the stream, team

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Speaker 1: live tomorrow Tuesday ten am, Great and Gordian with Brian

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Speaker 1: and Matt from the Red Flags podcast are going to

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Speaker 1: break down the Hungarian GP that happened yesterday. Fantastic race.

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Speaker 1: I won't spoil it, but man, great stuff there. And

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Speaker 1: then Wednesday, Task is back in the studio with his

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Speaker 1: bang up No Bunts with the Athletics Jason Starks. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so that's been has been having a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: with that. I've been seeing a lot of the clips

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Speaker 1: going around. Great stuff. Are you a baseball head now yourself?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm all in on baseball now. Savannah Bananas girl,

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Speaker 3: Savannah Bananas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard from them when we said I'd be

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Speaker 1: happy to go and play a game for them in

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Speaker 1: the in the summer.

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Speaker 3: Now I for you to play again.

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Speaker 1: I offered to them that I play, Yeah, but nothing

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Speaker 1: have you? And then how's this for a scoop? I'm

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Speaker 1: back on first day back in the office, and I've

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Speaker 1: got a scoop. On Thursday. We've got a brand new podcast,

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Speaker 1: another brand new podcast with a throwback Mattio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean where we work, sort of keeping it under

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Speaker 3: our hats. But why why bother? Like, let's hype this up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is a Matt Austin vehicle that we are launching

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Speaker 3: here on Thursday. Uh and I I can't wait. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it's not basketball.

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Speaker 1: Really well, it couldn't be right, really, is it the complaining?

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Speaker 1: I mean you you've spoken to him, tell us a

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Speaker 1: little bit more about what we can expect.

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Speaker 3: The show is called. Is this good? Question Mark? And

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Speaker 3: I'll just leave it at that. I think you pretty

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Speaker 3: much mixed for itself.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that with Matt could go in any directly anyway.

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Speaker 1: That'll be you, Me, Matt, and Tass. Okay, So the

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Speaker 1: very first episode says I'm looking forward to that one

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Speaker 1: PM because mattter course is out on the West coast

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, so that will be local time. For

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Speaker 1: him ten am, so he couldn't get up before ten

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Speaker 1: am to do that. Instead we have to do it.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so, so that's the week ahead now, JD. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I have to say this to you. If if Kevin

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Speaker 1: around and Donovan Mitchell get traded here this morning, it's

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, JD, because I know you're

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Speaker 1: a bit of a soapy TV fan. Yes, and you

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Speaker 1: also spend some time in Melbourne in Australia in the

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Speaker 1: in the early nineties. There. Did you see the big

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Speaker 3: I didn't Neighbors Neighbors related done?

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Speaker 1: What final episode of Nambers?

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Speaker 3: Oh mg wow. Kylie Minogue came from Neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she, Margot Robbie came from maybur Liam Hensworth, there's

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Speaker 1: She must have shot it kind of without the rest

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Speaker 1: come on, Kyle's come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was wondering, I mean, like like I

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Speaker 1: And the reason they fell was because it wasn't that

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Five dollars a month, very very much worth

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Speaker 1: we actually get into the cards, we obviously had some

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Speaker 1: sad news yesterday. One of the greatest basketball players, one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest humans, one of the greatest people to

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Speaker 1: have ever graced the planner. Bill Russell sadly passed away

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Speaker 1: at eighty eight years of age. Look, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: received the President's Presidential Medal of Freedom in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: I think even just more than that, I think every

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Speaker 1: four five group, a fantastic athlete and a fantastic competitor

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Speaker 1: Kelly any words, and he thought you would like to

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Speaker 2: Just he changed the game. There were certain shots you

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Speaker 2: six foot eleven after after Bill Russell you could not,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't practice. He sat and sipped tea

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Speaker 2: They immediately became an anachronism because of Bill Russell. So I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: I think it's there in Market Square Arena if I'm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those just post MJ middle seasons,

436
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 2: was like, oh gosh, I guess a team with Rick

437
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 2: Smith's leading away could win an NBA title right now?

438
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: This is uh, this is some interesting stuff. Yeah, he was,

439
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 2: he was great. He retired. He could have played a

440
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: couple of extra years. Popped on the uh you know,

441
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 2: the counting stats. He was a. He was a heck

442
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,719
Speaker 2: of a player, but he was they were they were

443
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: going to make that switch to the Isaiah Thomas situation

444
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 2: in Indiana. He's like, you know, I think I'm going

445
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 2: to retire while I can still walk, And and didn't

446
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,360
Speaker 2: he go und up being like a motorbike guy.

447
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 1: I think he's maybe maybe you give.

448
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 2: Anyone googles Rick Smith's and motorbikes. He had like a

449
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: motorbike team or something.

450
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 1: Well, let's ask the stream team because there's people live

451
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: now watching this on YouTube. If anyone knows if Rick

452
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 1: Smith's got into uh, what do you say, motorsports or

453
00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: motive believe.

454
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 2: I believe it's a bake situation, that Hills and the

455
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 2: state bake, and that that whole.

456
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: Thing massive massive. Someone in the stream team is saying

457
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: it Smit's buzzer beater was against the Magic and not

458
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: the Knicks. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Thanks,

459
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for that. Came through from Googs seven to seven one.

460
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 1: Maybe that's Tom Googliotta in the stream team. Not sure. Okay. Next,

461
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: we've got definitely one of the most fiery players from

462
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties. He won a championship in ninety four,

463
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: but it was very, very bitter to not be a

464
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 1: part of the nineteen ninety five team. In fact, he

465
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: entered the stands at one point. I can't remember exactly

466
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 1: the circumstances, but he had also had a fifty point

467
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 1: game at one point. Yeah, and I think everyone remembers

468
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: this guy and he's great follow on.

469
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 2: Twitter as follows on Twitter.

470
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,959
Speaker 1: Yes, he's always ripping on the Utah Jazz. So I

471
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: know you know who this one is, Maxwell, that Max

472
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: Vernon Maxwell.

473
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Speaker 2: There he is.

474
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tried to get him to be on popping packs, but.

475
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 2: Just yeah, that would be perfect, that would be there'd

476
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,439
Speaker 2: be a four hour episode. Oh yeah, and I just

477
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: you know, hope you get Adam Keith and Shannon Anderson

478
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: and then any other Utah Jazz have been put in there.

479
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: That's great. Adam Keith is is the great trivia question.

480
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: I believe he was the fifth fifth starter for the

481
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight Jazz in the finals. Is that right?

482
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: I think yeah. For most of this, like the afore mession,

483
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: Shannon Anderson like Jerry Saloon in the middle of season,

484
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 2: so he's like, I'm just going to play a six

485
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: foot tent power forward in your place and and win

486
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 2: sixty four games.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the good thing about Vernon Maxwell, I think

488
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 1: he has finally gotten over his you know, his trade

489
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: away from the Rockets in ninety four and he's uh,

490
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: and he's moved past it now because he was he

491
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: held on to that for a while. He was very

492
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: very upset, you know that they did trade him away.

493
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: But I think he's as the time has passed, he's

494
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 1: he's accepted that's the way it goes.

495
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: And you know, but has been good at Vernon has

496
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: been good her. We appreciated his skills. He could be

497
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: a right now. And you know, we kind of understand

498
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: when people go in the stands. If you've been to

499
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: a few NBA games, you've seen those guys.

500
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: I think I think he said, I mean, this is

501
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: not something shocking to hear. But you know, the ninety

502
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: four Bulls, I think I believe they the Rockets beat

503
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: the Bulls in ninety four without Jordan, but they or no,

504
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: in ninety three. I believe the Rockets beat the Bulls

505
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: during the regular season. And he said, if they could

506
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: have gotten to the finals, they would have beatn the Bulls.

507
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: But of course you've got to get to the finals first.

508
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 1: They weren't able to do that. So anyway, that West,

509
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: that West, ye brutal West. Oh yeah, yeah, Okay. This

510
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: next player, you'll definitely remember him because he's a very

511
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: laid back character and began his career with the Dallas Mavericks.

512
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: He moved. In fact, he was also a part of

513
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers two thousand team. I think this guy

514
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: was a three time a three time NBA runner up,

515
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: I believe, one time with the Los Angeles Lakers in

516
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 1: ninety one, one time with the Seattle SuperSonics in nineteen

517
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: ninety six, Oh gotcha, and then one time with the

518
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers in the year two thousand. Big Lefty hit

519
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: a game, hit the game when he shot in Game

520
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: one of the nineteen ninety one NBA Finals against the

521
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls.

522
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: One of Jerry West's favorite players of all absolutely and

523
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: again could just be maybe at all, sir right now?

524
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: Perkins, Sam Perkins there he is, Yeah, yeah.

525
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: Look at that uniform. Yeah, that's so good.

526
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: Also a member of that iconic nineteen eighty four draft.

527
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: And was he a he was a North Carolina, wasn't he?

528
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: Is he? Yeah?

529
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe the cover of Sports Illustrated with James Worthy,

530
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: and I believe Mad Doherty and some of and Dean

531
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: Smith wouldn't let Michael Joruid make the cover because freshmen

532
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: don't make the cover of recording the So Jordan was

533
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: his first ever cover.

534
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, big Sam. You know, I think I think

535
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: the story goes that he did play in a do

536
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: rag during a preseason game two there towards the end

537
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: of his career. Yeah, he always looked like he was,

538
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, never in a rush, which is you know,

539
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: it was just the way he was, you know, he

540
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: was looked pretty casual and pretty cool.

541
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: Look up his three point shootout. It took, it took.

542
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: It took twice as long as Antonino hikers. I can't

543
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: remember the year, Yes, and I think it's still going actually, yeah, yeah,

544
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: he's making his way to the middle rack. Yeah.

545
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: I wonder though if he hit the money balls, because

546
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, that was that one against against the Bulls.

547
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: I remember Magic made the pass and I think it's

548
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: Horace Grant closing out. It's a huge shot. But I

549
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: was always disappointed because I remember the early Mavericks Lakers

550
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: rivalry of that's you know, mid to late eighties before

551
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: before he went to the Lakers, and he was a

552
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: huge part of those Mavericks teams with ROLANDA. Blackman, Mark Aguire,

553
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Roy Tarpley, and I sort of wish, you know, the

554
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: Mavericks had kept that team together, but of course Mark

555
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: Aguire wanted out of there and went to the Pistons,

556
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: and they kind of fell apart after that.

557
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they had a bum draft pick and

558
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: Randy Waits and it's a whole sad thing in Dallas

559
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: with Roy tertically, but yeah, Perkins started rating down the wall.

560
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: That's las quickly as it good. Yeah, one of the

561
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: first big free agents.

562
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: Okay, we've got another. We've got another guy here, a

563
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: first round draft pick for the Portland Trailblazers. But it's

564
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: like Chris Weber off the top there. He's got no team,

565
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: he's got no number. And to be perfectly honest, I

566
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 1: don't really know too much about this guy, but he's

567
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: got a very he's got a very simple name. He

568
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: came out of Alabama. Three years in Alabama, pretty good

569
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: scoring average, to be honest. Here he averaged eighteen point

570
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: nine a game in nearly one hundred games. Doesn't say,

571
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't say where he was twenty first pick in

572
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety three draft. It's going to be a

573
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: bit of a bit of a James Robinson.

574
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 2: Hollywood, Hollywood Robinson that's six foot one shooting gud.

575
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well someone that's at some point.

576
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: ESPN did I think in ninety six ninety seven said

577
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: that there were more players from Alabama in the NBA

578
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: than any other college.

579
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: Wow?

580
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was ninety seven because mcdace was

581
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 2: in and you got your Hollywood or Abinson, and I

582
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: can't think of a third guy.

583
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: Was there was a famous guy from who played in

584
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: the Australian Basketball League called James Crawford who was called

585
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: the Alabama Slammer. He might he may have played with

586
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: those guys because this was in the late eighties early

587
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: nineties there. So someone maybe in the stream team knows.

588
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: Once again, Goog's coming through. Goog's had this, he had

589
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: James Robinson. So Goog seventy seven one, well done, So okay,

590
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: great this this next one is a guy who has

591
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: one of the most famous He has a really famous

592
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: game winning shot for the Washington Bullets from one of

593
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: those eighties videos. You know, like what's it called fabulous

594
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: finishes or something like that, and the ball, the ball,

595
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: he's kind of on a fast break, but the ball's

596
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: going out of bounds, but he keeps his feet in bounds,

597
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: and he launches the ball a kind of over the

598
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: backboard for three pointer.

599
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: Almost almost like backward, yes, almost like just a weird flip.

600
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: I can't remember the guy, but I can remember the shot.

601
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: Well, you remember this guy because he was a pretty

602
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: good shooter, and he ended up in the Utah Jazz.

603
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: In fact, he was there, Oh okay, I don't think

604
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: he was there for the for the finals teams. I

605
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: think he was there early in the sort of early

606
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: nineties there, excuse me, as a as a shooting guard.

607
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: And then everywhere he went he had to have his

608
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: first initial on his jersey because there was always a

609
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: guy with his last name on the team. Like there

610
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: was another guy with his last name in Utah, there

611
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 2: was another guy was the last name in Washington. It

612
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: was like this just he's a twenty point scory. I

613
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: think he made like one All Star team, and yet

614
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 2: he had to have his first initial on the uniform

615
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: the entire time, like a like a you know, sixth

616
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: grader and a little league team. Yeah, yeah, so that

617
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: would be Jeff Malone.

618
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: Jeff Malone, great job, that's a really good pull.

619
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Speaker 2: I can't. I didn't. I keep forgetting he hit that shot.

620
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: That's such a crazy it's such a one. It's not

621
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: like a typical buzzer beater. No, really put some weird

622
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 2: spin on it.

623
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm pretty sure that did. That

624
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: was the like there may have been a second or

625
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: so left on the clock, but it was a game

626
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: winner too. It wasn't just like a you know, in

627
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: a transition basket and he was falling out of bands.

628
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: He had no other option. It was to win the game.

629
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: So Malone, Yeah, Jeff Malone. Okay, we go, Well, got

630
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: another tough one here for the Washington Bullets though. A

631
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: big guy, a forward. Now, let me just check. They

632
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: are a little stuck together, these ones. Okay, he was drafted,

633
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: he was not drafted. Not drafted. There you go. Wow,

634
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: a big six foot eight guy and yeah he averaged Yeah, man, there's.

635
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: Not much I can really have the shraft.

636
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: No, he's got. He reminds me. There was a guy

637
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: for the Golden State Warriors and the Houston Rockets. Who

638
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: was an undersized center. I don't you remember that?

639
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: Larry Smith?

640
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was Larry Smith. So this is Larry Stewart.

641
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: Look at Washington Bullets, no no quote, no quote, I'm

642
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: Philly with Michael Yogi Steward, Larry Stewart. Yeah.

643
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: Look, that's the thing with these when we pop these packs,

644
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, you get a couple of great Jeff Malons

645
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: in there, but every now and again you get a

646
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: James Robinson or a Larry Stewart, and sometimes you just

647
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: have to hope that the guest has some sort of

648
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: crazy story or connection.

649
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: But no, I'm just just shocked he got thirty three. Yeah,

650
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: like who lets an underrafter? I get thirty three? And

651
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: then the Larry Bird area. That's that's that's tough going. Yeah,

652
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: especially with two Malon's area.

653
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and Mo Chicks was oh no, no, no, no,

654
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: that's Philadelphi'm thinking I'm just trying to think who else

655
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: is on that?

656
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: We should always do that. Growing up, Washington and Philadelphia

657
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: were just interchangeable.

658
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was too for sure. All right, Well,

659
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: this next one great one of my favorite players to

660
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: watch in the nineties. He was a high draft pick

661
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: by his team. But I believe he got booed when

662
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: when like the fans booed when he got drafted because

663
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: he came out of Arizona. I believe. Let me just

664
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: double check that. Oh no, no, no, no, he came

665
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: out of Central Michigan.

666
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: Central. What's that ipsil Anty, Michigan. Yes, and yeah, Jerry

667
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: Colangelo said, no, you're going to love this guy. And

668
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: this guy can cram the way you see him in

669
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: the Olympics, He's gonna be awesome. And that was in

670
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: the Ring of Arnor.

671
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Yes, And he had a huge Game three in Chicago

672
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: of the ninety three finals. I think he hit six threes.

673
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: In fact, he drilled like the game winner from what

674
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: is now kind of standard range for guys to shoot from.

675
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: But Frisk I remember doing that, just being like I'm open, Yeah,

676
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to take this shot. This is basketball. We're

677
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: all adults here. We can do this.

678
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: And he bounced around a little bit. He went to Cleveland,

679
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: I think it was an All Star. In fact, in Cleveland,

680
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: he went to Miami and then I think he actually

681
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: sort of went full circle and finished his career where

682
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: he started in Phoenix and just has a great, great nickname,

683
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: and you obviously know who this is, under Dan Underdan Maley.

684
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

685
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: I had bj Armstrong on Popping Packs one day and

686
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: he and Dan Marley like really really good friends, just

687
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: really good buddies growing up, and so they had, you know,

688
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: great rivalry there in ninety three in the finals because

689
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: obviously bulls and Bulls and Sons and one of the

690
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: few final series where only one game was won by

691
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: the home team in nineteen ninety three.

692
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, some veteran basketball right there, kids.

693
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, thunder Down another guy I've been trying to get

694
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: on popp and Packs. You know, we follow each other

695
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I've sent him a few messages. You've seen them.

696
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: I know he's seen them. Unfortunately, no response though, but

697
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: his sons. His son is I believe a pretty good

698
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: player too. I've seen a few clips of that going

699
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: around online. So maybe we've.

700
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: Seen a few clips of you going around online, mister Alie.

701
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: These dying this vacation of years, I have to say,

702
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: it's been a lot of fun. I haven't seen much

703
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: of the Drew League, but Lee ellis taking care of

704
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: business on Instagram. My basketball out of the Summer Fox, Yeah.

705
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been driving my wife and kids mad to say,

706
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: you got to shoot these you never know, I've got

707
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: to try to put something up here. So it was great.

708
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Played a couple of games in Barcelona last week at

709
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: the at the Park Deir Poblano courts, which are fantastic courts.

710
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: Shout out to Conrad who hooked me up there. Oh man,

711
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: it was awesome, perfect night for it. A lot of

712
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: great a lot of really good players out there. In fact,

713
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: something I had never seen before at any pickup basketball.

714
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: There were a real lot of mixed men and women

715
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: playing on the same teams together. Yeah, and these girls

716
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: were great, like tough, playing hard. No one was taking

717
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: it easy. It wasn't like there was no like age

718
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: just play and let's take it easy on the girls.

719
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: These girls were playing hard and the guys were playing

720
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: hard as well. And it was really really great, great

721
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: atmosphere though. That's the thing about it that people just

722
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: out there competing and playing and a whole lot of fun.

723
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: So if anyone's out in Barcelona, go and check out

724
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: these courts and have some fun.

725
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: You're still talking about the Australian the camp through lighting

726
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: it up.

727
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean there is some selective editing, there's no

728
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But look and that actually that's notthing

729
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: I haven't told JD. I've got so much extra footage

730
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: from this trip, i haven't got time to put it

731
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: all together. So I'm going to try to like shuffle

732
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: it over to JD. So if he can put together

733
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: a few reels for me, what do you think, JD.

734
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: You've got some time, very very very very busy. Okay, well,

735
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: speaking of busy, we've got a couple of cards here

736
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: left before we have to take a commercial break, and

737
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 1: they're all stuck together. But you're definitely going to get

738
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: at least well, maybe all three, but you're definitely going

739
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: to get the first one here. Because this guy is famous.

740
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: He won a championship as a player. In fact, I

741
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: believe he hit like either the last shot of the

742
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine finals or certainly this you know, a

743
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: pretty a big shot right at the end of that series.

744
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: He went on to become a coach. He was Coach

745
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 1: of the Year for a team that unfortunately is remembered

746
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: more for what they you know, messed up, I guess

747
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: in the k Yeah, yeah, And then he went to

748
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: coach one more team, but he hasn't really coached that.

749
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: He's got a really great little voice. He's he's the

750
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: little general. And Avery, Avery, Marie, where do you where

751
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: do you sort of think of what's the first thing

752
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: you think of with Avery Johnson?

753
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: Think of the first thing you brought up, which is

754
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: coming home to watch I remember being at a buddy's

755
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: house for a party that night of that game Game five,

756
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: and taping it and coming back to to to watch

757
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: it in it's entirety, and having a buddy of mine

758
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: ruin it for me on icy Q by telling me

759
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Avery Johnson hit the shot. And I was kind of

760
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: upset at being ruined, but then I felt so great

761
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: for Avery because that was his whole thing. Is this guy?

762
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: You can't win a title with him as a point

763
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: guard because you can't hit a jump shot. And all

764
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden, he said in an eighteen foot to

765
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: beat the Nixon Madison Square Garden for the title. So

766
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: take that.

767
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: Did you read Chris Herring's fantastic Blood in the Garden book?

768
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: Oh?

769
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what'd you think of that?

770
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: One airplane trip? That's how great that book was. I

771
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: was just I just act that off in a second, Yeah,

772
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: that was That's a fantastic much recommended to do. I

773
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: didn't get that. Yeah.

774
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: I imagine again from from when you know, were closely

775
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: following the league and you know obviously the Bulls and

776
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: the Knicks and all that. I mean, you must have felt,

777
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, like you lived through all of that, and

778
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, I thought Chris did such an incredible job

779
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: putting it all together and writing. And I saw Barack

780
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: Obama even tweeted out a week or so ago that

781
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: it was one of the books that he read this

782
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: this year or this this summer anyway. So I mean

783
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: you're getting a pretty strong endorsement there from Illinois.

784
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: You have to read it. If you're a basketball fan,

785
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: you got to read that book. It's just they're they're,

786
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: you know, when the next meet of the finals in

787
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: eighty nine. I don't want to speak for everyone, but

788
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people are going for him because they weren't.

789
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 2: They weren't trying to get through Jordan to get there,

790
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: and there was an underdog team and everyone loves Spree

791
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: well and Avery jan Center to go ruin it.

792
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean that the thing about that book,

793
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: you know what I found really great was you know,

794
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: the stories within the store or you know, the Anthony

795
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: Mason chapter was obviously fantastic. And and just how you know,

796
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: pat Riley has this this sort of reputation for being

797
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: like a mafia boss, and Chris, I thought, really brought

798
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: that out in the book, showing that they you know,

799
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: he was just ruthless pat Riley there and you know,

800
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: and look his how long was he even there for

801
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: New York got five years? I think ninety one to

802
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't.

803
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: Think it was that one and five, yeah.

804
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: You know, but in that time, they got so close

805
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: and of course being up three to two on the

806
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: Houston Rockets in ninety four there, I mean, but that

807
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: was the thing, like, there wasn't the happy ending in

808
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: the sense that the Nicks eventually won the championship. Instead,

809
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: it was like they got so close.

810
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: And you know, but they went up to Ohero on

811
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: the balls and that was rough. I mean, that was

812
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: that was the biggest dagger. That was. That's because they

813
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: were built to beat the balls. And all pat Riley

814
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: did was on NBC three, youre watching the balls and

815
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 2: figuring them out and then go to the next and

816
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: he knew exactly what to do and he almost did it.

817
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, we've got two cards left here. Let's see

818
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: how we can do with these ones. Because there's this

819
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: one guy. If you think of the Sacramento Kings in

820
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: the early nineties, who's the first player that comes to mind?

821
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: The Saints Jim Lass, Yes, I see Lionel Simmons.

822
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: Lionel Simmons. Okay, one more another lefty. I think this

823
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: guy was lefty. Yeah, you got me there?

824
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: Oh what was Antoina? Left? No?

825
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: He was? No, no, no, I think this guy's a lefty.

826
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: He made I'm pretty sure he was a lefty. He

827
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: was the He was the number two pick, wow, number

828
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: two pick in the nineteen eighty five draft, out of.

829
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: Lionel Simmons. Mitch Richmond. And I don't remember wayman tisday lefty?

830
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 2: That's right? Does he played that bass left hand? Yeah? Yeah? Oh?

831
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: Look at that low post positionally, how easy is he

832
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: making it for that entry pass? That is that's how

833
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: you do it in there?

834
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: Was he doing there though? Was he establishing position? Or

835
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: is he or is he being I mean, is he

836
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: being bumped out of position?

837
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Is he trying to see? These tricky lefties there are

838
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: always one step ahead of the post defenders.

839
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: It's funny though, just with the Kings, I just think

840
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: Lionel Simmons and Wayman Tisdale. I think Bobby Hansen was

841
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: there for a while, Jim Less. But it's just like

842
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: you just kind of remember those names and those they

843
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: weren't very good. I mean, you know that had been

844
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: very good, but they had some memorable players and people

845
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: associated with.

846
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: The games that you wouldn't ever see because they were

847
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: never on TV. They never had a chair, they never

848
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 2: it was just this completely anonymous franchise and into the

849
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: biggest team in the NBA for ten years. Ortunately Yeah,

850
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: let's get it together. Sacked. Are we missing just one more?

851
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: JD if you can just go in. I will say though,

852
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: their uniforms have always been pretty nice, and I absolutely

853
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: love that. I know the current Kings have had them.

854
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: Maybe not last season, but certainly in the last couple

855
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: of seasons we've had we've had those throwback ones there,

856
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: those beautiful blues. And that's at least one thing the

857
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: Kings got right is they've had some good jerseys over

858
00:39:59,239 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: the years.

859
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: No, those are beautiful. Those are beautiful.

860
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: Okay, we've got the last one here now, he's a

861
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: big guy for the Orlando Magic, a big lefty. Well,

862
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: he's actually not as big as I thought I thought

863
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: he's I thought he was more close to seven foot.

864
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: But they've got him here from as a six nine

865
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: are out of out of Vanderbilt and drafted in eighty four.

866
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: It looks like Jeff Turner bang absolutely perfect. Jeff Turner there,

867
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: he is the big power for There's Avery Johnson again

868
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: and Dale Eliss.

869
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's Jeff Turner's only chance of scoring the pivot.

870
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: Jason arm I got to be honest, he was. He

871
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: was a bit of a garbage together. But you know,

872
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: if there's a mismatch and you get a mouse in

873
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 2: the house, you got to take a Vanda cheat.

874
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I think JD may be able to actually help me

875
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: on this. I think Skeets had a basketball camp in

876
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: Canada at one point and Jeff Turner was the He

877
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: did turn up. Not like Anthony Peeler there, Jeff Turner

878
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: did turn up.

879
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: That does sound familiar.

880
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think explaining Skeetz's you know, his court vision

881
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: is very Jeff Turnera. I've always noticed that one watching

882
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: the ball.

883
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Okay, well, not a not a bad pack here. I'll

884
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: just quickly recap them, because overall I thought was pretty good.

885
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: Jeff Turner, Okay, we'll start from the bottom there. We

886
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: move up a little bit here, Wayman Tisdale, the big

887
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings, Avery Johnson saying, Bay you skit. Marlwell had

888
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: the great, the great accent there. Thunder Dan Marley certainly

889
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: one of both of our favorite players there to watch

890
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: and to talk about. Larry Stewart, no one really knows. No,

891
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: undrafted and Well Well, I wouldn't say unloved, but i'd

892
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: say unknown in the in the pop and packs world,

893
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: Jeff Malone always had the first initial on every jersey

894
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: because he had such a common surname. There. The mysterious

895
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: James Robinson, Hollywood Robinson who Kelly brought up there. That

896
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: was great. Big Sam Perkins should have been one of

897
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: those guys. Probably should have been an All Star at

898
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: one point in his career. Never never able to make it.

899
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: Vernon Maxwell other one. He was never an All Star. No,

900
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: he probably was, probably was close to All Stars. Left

901
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: you think you think he was close.

902
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: I mean you're probably in ninety three or assuming ninety four.

903
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: Whenever I was like we can't just send one rocket

904
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: to the star at him. We have to. But you know,

905
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: he was a he was he was. It was that

906
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: cirqu situation that stars made an All Star team, where

907
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: you just you just never give him the credibility if

908
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 2: they weren't drafted top fight.

909
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: Rick Smits made one All Star game in about ninety seven.

910
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: I believe it was NY eighth, the msqu one MSG.

911
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: It was yeah, okay, that's right, Yeah, Anthony, don't show

912
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: up to my own day Mieler And of course Chris

913
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: Anonymous Webber there in the in the Michigan Blues and

914
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: they just obviously had photoshop and they decided we're not

915
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: putting you in the Warriors uniform just yet. Well, so

916
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: that does it for the first pack. Now, Kelly, if

917
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: you don't mind, I've just got to do a quick

918
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: ad read here and then listen. I've got so many

919
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: more packs here. There's no basket. Kevin Durant hasn't been traded,

920
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: so if you've got time, you want to pop a

921
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: few more.

922
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: Let's all right.

923
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: He's speaking of bikes. I found this picture of Rick Smith's.

924
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: Oh wow, still into bikes.

925
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: Wow, he's got the merest Yeah, wow for him.

926
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: I mean, that bike doesn't look like Taylor made. It

927
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: looks like a normal bike. But I would I would

928
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: think he would need his own. It's gonna be.

929
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: It's got. It's big.

930
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: That bake is seven foot four.

931
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: I mean, there has to be look at look at

932
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: where he's got it in the house there too, it's

933
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: like right above the basement, Like I mean, you don't

934
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: want to.

935
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: Just built that from a kit in his basement. And

936
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: you know, just like you know, getting the shots of

937
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: Lee playing basketball on decade nowadays, this is honey, honey,

938
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: look at my bike.

939
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm still together, all right, Kelly. So we got yeah,

940
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: we've got plenty to choose from. Again here I'll refresh

941
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: your memory. What we've got. We've got these ninety four

942
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: ninety five skybox. We've got these Jordan stickers from from

943
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, ninety something. We've got the skybox inaugural additions.

944
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: We've got some more modern day stuff here. There's eight

945
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: cards in there from the current I mean obviously not

946
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: just last season, but they're more modern, modern day cards.

947
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: What else have we got? I've got the another skybox

948
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: from ninety one ninety two, or I've got the Antoine

949
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Walkers here from two thousand as well. Where are we sorry, JD.

950
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: They're ninety nine two thousand with Antoine Walker. The tip

951
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: off from the well, it wasn't the shortened sas was

952
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: it. That was ninety eight ninety nine. So what are you feeling?

953
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: Let's tip it off.

954
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Let's tip it off with Antoine Walker. Great. I was

955
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 1: so off for it. I got so so much joy

956
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: out of that post that you shared last week, because

957
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean from the very first shot, it's who's on

958
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: the call there? It's Reggie? Is it Reggie?

959
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 2: It's am I you know Smith Regiment. Actually we're still

960
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: playing in all three so so MENA yeah, yeah, yeah,

961
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: it could have been me. It didn't matter. Yeah, you know,

962
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: he's shooting east west at the same time, sometimes jumping,

963
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: sometimes not tippy toes. Sometimes times it was it was

964
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: a masterclass in inconsistency.

965
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: It was just it was hilarious. I think he bricked

966
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: like his first five or six, and then he then

967
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, then he hit a couple and then he

968
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't can't remember even what he

969
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: scored in the end, but it was just like, why

970
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: go in it if you just don't even seem to care.

971
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't even seem to try. That was it.

972
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: Was exactly what you wanted from Antwino Acker in a

973
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: three point contest. It was just it was down to

974
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: a tee just you know, I thought it was perfect.

975
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Well thing eunce. Well this first this first guy,

976
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: you definitely know him because in nineteen ninety nine, I

977
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: think he was I think it was in his second season.

978
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: He went on to win a championship with the team

979
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: he was drafted by, although the year that he won

980
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: the championship, I'm pretty pretty sure he asked for a

981
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: trade just before his team made a huge trade which

982
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: gave his team stacked his team to go and get

983
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: that championship. He's a Finals MVP. He's in the Hall

984
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: of Fame. He's not an easy man to love. He's

985
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: not a player that's all that popular because he was

986
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: born on the West Coast, but he played most of

987
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: his career on the East Coast for the Boston Celtics.

988
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's not a lovable character. But ultimately he

989
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: was pretty clutch Finals MVP in two thousand and eight,

990
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: and he's a Hall of Famer.

991
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the truth is he's just he's a bowler. It

992
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: was just the best part about him coming into the game,

993
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: bag Manber. There wasn't like a lot of eighties scorers

994
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: in the NBA in the e late nineties, and when

995
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: Pierce was drafted twentieth overall or whatever, he felt too

996
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, this guy is just he uses

997
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 2: his butt and he uses a touch and he's it's like,

998
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: we got Edrian Danley back. It's great.

999
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good comparison actually there because he

1000
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: was a bucket for those sort of early by the

1001
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: Celtics teams in the sort of two thousand and what

1002
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, two thousand and two, where they

1003
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: didn't win a lot of games, but he was putting

1004
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: up twenty five a night back then. But do you

1005
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: remember when he did ask for a trade out of Boston.

1006
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. He was not happy

1007
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: with with the goings on, and uh, you know it

1008
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: was it was I can't imagine having Antoine Walker leave

1009
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 2: your team and and and feeling frustrated at at you

1010
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 2: know what, you got too many shots? Now I didn't.

1011
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: I don't get that, but yeah, he was. He was

1012
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: not happy because you know, Ange was taking his time

1013
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 2: and Dean's had a lot of news drafting high schoolers

1014
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: and he was drafting you know, Kendrick Perkins and Al

1015
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: Jefferson in respective years, and it was yeah, it was

1016
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: hard to sit through. Plus Pierce came in at twenty two,

1017
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: so he wasn't like the typical you know, high schooler

1018
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 2: nineteen year old that so yeah, so he threw about

1019
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: twenty five trade re bus the game in there.

1020
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember he didn't he got stabbed as well,

1021
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: didn't he Like he did get stabbed. He stabbing of.

1022
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: Uh right, befo the season in two thousand, Yeah.

1023
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, job right. So this season then, wow, yeah, well

1024
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: what a life? Yeah yeah, yeah, but just one of

1025
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: those guys like I've just never felt like, you know,

1026
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I've always respected him because he's had some

1027
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: huge game winners and you know, some big moments, but

1028
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: just always felt like just a you know, not I'm

1029
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: never gonna wear a Paul Pierce jersey around.

1030
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: But he likes it that way. Yeah, he dig that.

1031
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's who he is and we need that.

1032
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's funny because I remember I was in Boston.

1033
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: I guess it was the No Season Required tour, and

1034
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: I was talking to some Celtics fans there and that was,

1035
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, so he'd won the championship, he'd been the

1036
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: finals MVP, but because he was an LA guy, they

1037
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: they also said like they never really fully embraced him either,

1038
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: like it always sort of felt like he was, you know,

1039
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: a little bit of an outsider. But begrudgingly they kind

1040
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: of respected him because he brought them another championship after that,

1041
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: you know what, twenty two years.

1042
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: And even in his best moment in winning that title,

1043
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: that was still marred by the you're gonna get in

1044
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: a wheelchair? What is happening, Paul? We want to root

1045
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 2: for you this time? This tough again? You know. He

1046
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: shot up to a press conference after a playoff game

1047
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: against the Pacers wearing like an over the top head

1048
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: year or something like that, after he thought he was

1049
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: flating early foul. He's he's a he's a jokester.

1050
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, this next guy now interesting, you'll

1051
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: you'll you'll know this guy. But I also don't really

1052
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't really have a sort of a moment from

1053
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: him that I can think of right now. He may

1054
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: have been in a dunk contest or a three point

1055
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: shootout at some point. He's got a very simple name.

1056
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: He was taken in the ninety five draft out of Indiana.

1057
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Out of Indiana, so we.

1058
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: Got a handu Allen Hanner's foh.

1059
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: Man, what a great pull alan.

1060
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: And most improved player in ninety eight.

1061
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: Ah, there you go. Yeah, am I remembering correctly that

1062
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: he was in a three point shootout or no?

1063
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: He was. He was a banger. He was a low post,

1064
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: give me the bar and get out of the way,

1065
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: sort of a big turn scorer.

1066
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can put it up.

1067
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: He played Christian right out of Atlanta. Yeah, so Laar

1068
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: the year before and then and he just took his job.

1069
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's great. Look at that. What a photo

1070
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: that is there too? What's he doing there? A layup?

1071
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: That push that's his game. It wasn't pretty sort of.

1072
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: A jump hook type of pushy sort of floater or

1073
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: something there. Okay, this next guy, he he he was

1074
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: definitely in a dunk contest because he had incredible hops.

1075
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: This guy he was one of the first, you know,

1076
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: known players from the Charlotte Hornets early on. He bounced around.

1077
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: He's got a fantastic game winner where he's kind of

1078
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: falling out of bounds and I think he banks it

1079
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: in for the Phoenix Suns and he's become I mean,

1080
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: you must follow him on Twitter. I'm sure he follows

1081
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: everyone on Twitter, and he tweets NonStop. He's got tireless

1082
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: energy to tweet. He tweets everything, anything and everything, Okay, okay.

1083
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: And I don't believe he was ever an All Star.

1084
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: He may have been close, but I remember him certainly

1085
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: on the Charlotte on its and the Phoenix Suns. I

1086
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: think he was in Washington briefly. He may have been

1087
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: a Chicago Bull even at one.

1088
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 2: Point he was a heating heat that's right.

1089
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: That's right.

1090
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: Made two hundred and forty seven thousand dollars in his

1091
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 2: year with the Suns, making the minimum back he took

1092
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: him when he made that shot and hit then random

1093
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and stuff like that. Incredible bargain. Right.

1094
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: So this man is at Rex Chapman, at Reck Coamn.

1095
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 1: Yeah sure, as he holds the microphone like a grudge

1096
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: according to his Twitter bio. Yeah, I remember him in

1097
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: those yeah, in those early Charlotte teams. I think it

1098
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: was the nineteen ninety ninety one might have been a

1099
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: bit early for him, but he was in one of

1100
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: those dunk contests, and he had that nice like flick

1101
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: over the shoulder into the reverse dunk, as I said,

1102
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: And he had the bike shorts underneath the Charlotte uniform,

1103
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: which was all the rage in the early nineties.

1104
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 2: Just six three go with Harps. Just just a fantastic player.

1105
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: Watched it. Watch the clip yesterday where the Elite chicker

1106
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: and called him the verse a Rex chat. Yeah, that

1107
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 2: was very appropriate. Don't check.

1108
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this next guy, he holds a record I

1109
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: believe still in that he's a multiple time NBA champion

1110
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: and he has more playoff appearances I believe in anybody

1111
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: else still in the NBA. He played with well, he

1112
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: played with no he played with. He played on technically

1113
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: on three teams, but he had two stops on one team.

1114
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: He played all his career out on the West Coast,

1115
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: and he was he was recently just relieved of his

1116
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: duties as a head coach in the WNBA. I think

1117
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: he was a head coach and the general manager of

1118
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: a team, and he was just Yeah, I believe so,

1119
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: presuming that Derek Fisher, Derek Fisher. Yes, there he is

1120
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: Derek Fisher. Yeah. I believe he still holds the record

1121
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: for the most playoff games. He's like two hundred and

1122
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: fifty sense three or something like that, because of all

1123
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: those all those trips there with the Lakers, then he

1124
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: went to the Warriors and the Jazz. In fact, I

1125
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: think Derek Fisher has never been when he made the playoffs.

1126
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: He never never got eliminated in the first round as well.

1127
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: That scans. That makes sense.

1128
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he actually ended his career with the Thunder. Actually,

1129
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: now I forgot about that.

1130
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 2: He's a total front runner.

1131
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was actually pretty good for the Thunder in

1132
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I remember a couple of times there just

1133
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: they needed some buckets and he got them.

1134
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: He ended up on Dallas for a second too.

1135
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: He did.

1136
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: He upset Jason Kidd. You know it's not Jason Kid,

1137
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: Mark Cuban. You know, he got around, he did the work.

1138
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: Was he a second round pick?

1139
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: I believe, Yeah, I think that's right. I remember he

1140
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: was No. First round, twenty fourth overall by the Lakers.

1141
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: But I remember the two thousand and one finals against

1142
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and they had the Big three, you know, Shaq,

1143
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: Kobe and Derek Fisher and they were averaging fish. Yeah,

1144
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: they were averaging like seventy two points a game, and

1145
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: shock was it. You know.

1146
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: That's when he took over for Ryan Horper in those finals.

1147
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: Think about it.

1148
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a nice dunk on Alan Iverson sort

1149
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: of in transition, his right handed dunk. Not something you

1150
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: remember too much about Derek Fisher, but he did get

1151
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: up there for one. So so yeah, okay, great this

1152
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: next guy. Oh, speaking of the two thousand and one finals,

1153
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: this guy was the backup big man and just a

1154
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: great name, just a really really good Philly yes for Philadelphia.

1155
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Geiger, Matt Geiger.

1156
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, big Matt Geiger.

1157
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: It was barbed wires out.

1158
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1159
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the year two thousand and a picture.

1160
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing.

1161
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: It was.

1162
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: Who else? Tom Googlyda definitely had the Barbey Tracy McGrady,

1163
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: he had.

1164
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: It every member of the nineteen ninety eighth Cincinnati Berecout's

1165
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: team and was it was a very popular you know,

1166
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: how I meet it out of the Lena and he's

1167
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: with that one.

1168
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 1: I will never understand that JD will know our former

1169
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: friend or our current friends. Still former colleague at the score.

1170
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: James Sharmon even as the as the Barbie barbe. I

1171
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: don't know if you know who he is, Kelly, but yes,

1172
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: James Sharman, he has the barbet k said, well, head, yeah,

1173
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: I have never said because one of those things that

1174
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: he often make sure that it is covered up, although

1175
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was all the right. I

1176
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: remember thinking about getting one when I was like eighteen

1177
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: or nineteen because everyone had them and yeah, glad I didn't,

1178
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: but hell yeah, it was old to them.

1179
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 3: And then it was nuts very very quickly.

1180
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: It was it.

1181
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: Pamela Anderson she had one too.

1182
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: She had well did she actually get with she because

1183
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: she was in the movie Barbed Wire? Was that like

1184
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 3: part of her?

1185
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: That was the origin story is a movie that no

1186
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: one saw, but we saw the tattoo on ladies, so

1187
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: we got to go get it. Now.

1188
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: That's when she peaked. Pammy peaked around ninety four ninety five.

1189
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: I think, didn't she with Baywatch and that the Tommy

1190
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: video came out around that time? I think.

1191
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 3: She was in Borat.

1192
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: I think for eighty percent of the people that have

1193
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: that barbar attack who have seen that particular video reference

1194
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 2: it's just I think it was part of getting into

1195
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: it that that was the sort of person that purchased

1196
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: that that particular team.

1197
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: Okay, we've got a couple more here. Well, excuse me,

1198
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: now I've got one. It's not a checklist card. Okay,

1199
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: it's called a daily double.

1200
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 2: You got to eat it twice.

1201
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so double double before. Okay, I'm not quite sure

1202
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: what this means, but anyway, this guy. If you think

1203
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: of two thousand and one, very few players had a

1204
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: better season than this guy. Because he was the MVP

1205
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: of two thousand and one.

1206
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: And should the Shaft diesel the bigger starting.

1207
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: No, he was two thousand This guy was the following

1208
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: season two thousand Alan Iverson.

1209
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, fine, fine, I'm upset on Shacks behalf

1210
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 2: of the two thousand one MVP.

1211
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: So am I? So I mean Shack Shack should have

1212
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 1: ended his career with five or six at least.

1213
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: Really, look at that guy. Just that's what a great shot.

1214
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: No one had tattoos like that, No one had, just

1215
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 2: what a wonderful shot.

1216
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if he does have the

1217
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: panther I think on his arm though, doesn't he the

1218
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: panther is a very common one, like Durren Williams I

1219
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: think has had it, and a few other guys, but

1220
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean Alan Iveson. You know, very few players have

1221
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: just carried that same swag that he had and the

1222
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: coolness and then to be able to go out there

1223
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: and carry that team as close as he did to

1224
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: the final. I mean that game one performance in two

1225
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: thousand and one is incredibly forty eight. I think it is.

1226
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: He has thirty in the first half. Of course, the

1227
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: big step over there of Derek or the crossover of

1228
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Derek Fisher, if.

1229
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: It encapsulation of what we were all hoping for and

1230
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: has showed up on national TV, was just a bit

1231
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: of that and one swager that we knew he had

1232
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: and we'd watch him against the Bucks and the rat

1233
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: you know it's safe. Took until the game for it

1234
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: to like finally come out and right, we had Ai

1235
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: and this is the guy that ticks everyone off. This

1236
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: is good, this is good.

1237
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: And that I mean in two thousand and one, they

1238
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: I think they lost the first game against Indiana, they

1239
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: came back and won three to one, and then of

1240
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,479
Speaker 1: course the Raptors series after that, where I mean Vince

1241
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: Carter nearly nearly ended the season very very early. And

1242
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: then I believe against the Milwaukee Bucks in the finals,

1243
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: they may have even been down three to two in

1244
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: that series too. Perhaps certainly it went seven games at least,

1245
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: and I haves and had a big game seven there.

1246
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, then when you got to the Lakers,

1247
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, there's no way they're going to

1248
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: beat the Lakers. But then after Game one, You're like,

1249
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, this would be this would be maybe

1250
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: the biggest championship victory of all time. If he was able, Yeah,

1251
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: if he was able to overcome the Shaq and Kobe Lakers.

1252
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: It should have been the Lakers. And three, the Lakers

1253
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: were just so dominant from March on that season, and

1254
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: for Adverson to just go look at the like half

1255
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: the team was injured. Everyone had like an ankle fracture

1256
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: or some sort of wrist fracture or some sort of

1257
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: you know, fibula out of the skin sort of situation.

1258
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: And and and Matt Gager at the top of that list.

1259
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: It was Iverson. It was. It was a remarkable year.

1260
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: It was it was worth every bit of you know,

1261
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: in terms of narrative m VPS. It was it was

1262
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: that's the tops, that's the best one.

1263
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that year. Larry Brown was coach of

1264
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: the Year, Aaron McKee was six man to Kenby with

1265
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. But the Sixers lost the

1266
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: last game of the season. I think it was against

1267
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls. Had they won that game, and they

1268
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: sort of sat players down, But had they won that game,

1269
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: I believe they would have had home court advantage in

1270
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: the finals, wouldn't have ultimately made much of a difference.

1271
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: The Lakers still win that series. But you just wonder,

1272
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: if you know, maybe that first game or two in Philadelphia.

1273
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 2: If you know, Raja Bell played very well in this game.

1274
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: That was Rajah Bell's coming out that last week of

1275
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: the regular season, was like, oh wow, they have another

1276
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: guy that's that's good on the Sixers.

1277
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: I said he crossed over Derek Fisher. Of course it

1278
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: was Toron lu who he crossed over there. Thanks Ivanne

1279
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 1: Van for acting me there a little bit too much

1280
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: Derek Fisher this morning here in this pack. But okay, now, JD,

1281
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: it's not a checklist card here We've got it's I

1282
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: don't really know what it is. It's basically just saying

1283
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: it's really just promotions. It's well, it's early internet days.

1284
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: I guess he go to tops dot com and.

1285
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: In it https slash slash start com.

1286
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: Okay, two more, two more to go here, Kelly, and

1287
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: I think you'll I think you'll pretty much get these too,

1288
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: because one guy was a rebounding menace, a fantastic guy

1289
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: to have on your fantasy teams in the early two

1290
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: thousands when he was I think he was actually on

1291
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: the Seattle SuperSonics there. He also played for the Denver Nuggets.

1292
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's playing for.

1293
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: My favorite college basketball player as well. Time.

1294
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what college? Did he go to?

1295
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: Cincinnati?

1296
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: He went to you're right, Yes, you're right, You're right,

1297
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: you're right.

1298
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, six foot four and a half Danny Ford's that's.

1299
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, Danny Fords. And I remember, yeah, in

1300
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: the two thousand and one season, he was so hard

1301
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: to get in fantasy basketball because he was he just average.

1302
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: I think he averaged like fourteen rebounds a game or

1303
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: something that season. He was a menace, but he couldn't

1304
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: really shoot, and that was a bit of his problem there.

1305
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: But of course, when you need those stats, in fantasy basketball,

1306
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: that's all you need is somebuy who can just really

1307
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: fill it up, but in one category, and he could.

1308
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great. He was tough dude, and you know,

1309
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: just looking at PJ Brown domineering over him, you know,

1310
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 2: hat problem, but it didn't stop him. Yeah, well, I

1311
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: love the defour go look him up on his old

1312
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: bark eclipse. On my mind, he's a lot of funal

1313
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: I score he's like Gary Transams a thousand.

1314
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: How did you you know, how did you become such

1315
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: a fan?

1316
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: Though? Like?

1317
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: What was it just just the way that he is intensity?

1318
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: I mean, is he lived in Cincinnati randomly for a

1319
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: couple of years, and it was they had this team

1320
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: all like bad guy, right, and I'd grown up going

1321
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: for the good guys, and it was like, let's go

1322
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: for some bad guys for the first time. And they

1323
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: were the best team in college groups. So I just

1324
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: got into Danny Fortson, and you know, I loved Nick

1325
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: nan Axl five years late earlier, so it just made

1326
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: it just made sense. And they lost to Eric Dampierre

1327
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: and I believe the Elite eights in against Mississippi State

1328
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: never made a final four, but yeah, Forts and Fortune

1329
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: was just a beach. He was. He was. He was

1330
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. I like time alone.

1331
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: It was the Warriors, now that I think about it.

1332
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: He was on that Warriors team I think with Antoine

1333
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: Jamison fifteen. Yeah, exactly. No one like the Raptors right

1334
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: now over six foot eight. But maybe Donald Foyle was

1335
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: on those teams though maybe he was the one outlier.

1336
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: All right, this last guy here, he's just got a great,

1337
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: great name as well. His initials are an alliteration, so

1338
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: same same initial for the first and the last name there.

1339
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna I'm almost certain you're going

1340
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: to get it when I just tell you his college

1341
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: because he came out of Indiana as well. Uh six

1342
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: seven drafted by the Bullets in fact.

1343
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm ridion about him right now.

1344
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: Oh really.

1345
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: So the second arrangement, subscribers to look can look forward

1346
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 2: to a Calbert Cheney post and in their email box

1347
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: any any day. Now.

1348
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: See, people think I juiced these packs sometimes, you know,

1349
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: And that would be a great way to promote your

1350
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: fantastic blog. There the second arrangement, But we don't. And

1351
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: this is why we do the segment, because it just

1352
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: comes together organically and uh, Albertcini, I mean that's he

1353
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: is one of those guys. Again, I don't remember tons

1354
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: about him, but I certainly remember his name because it's

1355
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: just such a great sounding name.

1356
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, just a just a great basketball name, and

1357
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: I looked it up. I'm looking at his stats yesterday, like,

1358
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 2: did he did he take the majority of his shots

1359
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: from long? It looks like he took them his shots

1360
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: from long two point range. So yeah, you can see

1361
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: why it didn't really work out for Calbert. But yeah,

1362
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: he he had a hot start. He averaged like six

1363
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 2: he averaged sixteen point six games and it points a

1364
01:03:58,400 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: game in a second year, and then it just went

1365
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: down from there because everyone was like, why don't we

1366
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: just let him shoot? We just gonna let him shoot.

1367
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: He's going to make four out of ten.

1368
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: That is incredibly precise there, Kelly. I know you said

1369
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: you're doing some work, so it's probably somewhat in your

1370
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: mind there. But sixteen point six and then fifteen ten, twelve,

1371
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, then he I think he went to the Jazz,

1372
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: didn't he, I believe?

1373
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: And another one of those he had like a six

1374
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: year contracts and who ran out as Ricky deal ran out,

1375
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: he went to Utah.

1376
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he may have even bounced around a couple

1377
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: of other teams there toward the end there. But that

1378
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: was another great pack with the tops two thousands here. Well,

1379
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: you know Calbuccini, Danny Fortson, the daily Double, Allen Iverson Big,

1380
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: Matt Geiger in the middle there, Derek Fisher before he

1381
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: used to wear the headband, Rex Chapman, Alan Henderson, the Fantastic.

1382
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: Was he Cincinnati? I know he was Indiana, he was Indian,

1383
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: Danny Fortson was the Cincinnati one, and then starting with

1384
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce. So pretty good stuff overall.

1385
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 2: Crew.

1386
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: Listen, I'll tell you what if you got time for

1387
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: one more, maybe maybe one of these.

1388
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: It's pop a matin back.

1389
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: Let's pop a modern pack. Yeah. What what do you

1390
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: think of Cunningham there? What was your impression for his

1391
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: first season?

1392
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: I you know, it was fun to be patient and

1393
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 2: then have that patients pay off well because you could

1394
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 2: just tell it's like it's you know, it's it's tough.

1395
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: You get well, you get like each shots a game

1396
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: and you got to do something with them. And he

1397
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 2: just needed to get to January, just needed to get

1398
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 2: he's going to be so much fun and I love

1399
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: Avy Detroit's going to be terrific this here.

1400
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: Wait, fantastic off season for them. You know, they should

1401
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: really be hovering around I think in that seventh and

1402
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: eighth spot at that worst. I mean, it's hard to

1403
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: sort of think about what's going to happen. I mean,

1404
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: I think Brooklyn's going to obviously make it, make a

1405
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: few changes there. The Raptors should be better Bulls or

1406
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: what do you think of the Bulls? Tray's not here,

1407
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: but how are you feeling about the Bulls with the

1408
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: off season and just from where they ended last season.

1409
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: Hoping they had you know what, It depends on Mine's

1410
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 2: old ball. He was boring mine also with that knee defensively,

1411
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: so what all that? I wish they had done more things,

1412
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: but you know they can make it all right in

1413
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 2: a second of Lonzo ball comes back healthy and they

1414
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: win a bunch of games in December again.

1415
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, did you do you go to many games?

1416
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: Like?

1417
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: Do you do you attend games in person? Oh?

1418
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I go to the Pacer Arena is an hour away, right,

1419
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 2: and it's just so great. It's so great for media

1420
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 2: or fans. There's not a bad seat in the house

1421
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: and they treat me very well. It's a pretty Midwest

1422
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 2: is fun. I can go to the Pistons Arena anytime

1423
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: I want. The Balls Arenas two hours away, the Bucks

1424
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 2: Arenas not the A's five hours away, and it's fun. Drive.

1425
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 2: I go down to the Memphis Arena from time to time.

1426
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: That's only eight hours. It's a you know, it's not

1427
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: quite the hub that Atlanta is, but it's it's it's

1428
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: a nice little, nice little spot I got here in Indiana.

1429
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: Did you did you go to the old Market Square

1430
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: Arena Pacers games back? Were you close it? I mean,

1431
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you've sort of moved around a little bit

1432
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: from from those.

1433
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: For one game? One game we moved. We moved here

1434
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: right before. Yeah, so I went a one game in

1435
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 2: the ninety eight. Well, for first of all, obviously I

1436
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: went to that Smashing Pumpkins garbage show in ninety six

1437
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 2: Market Square, but I also went to the game six,

1438
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: I believe, of the ninety eight Conference finals. I was

1439
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: very lucky to see that Michael Jordan fell down and

1440
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: the last shot of the game and missed it guarded

1441
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 2: by Derek McKee. So that was fun to be part of.

1442
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: I talked to Rick Townder and Press Row and the

1443
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: during halftime and got to tell him I wanted to

1444
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: join that press Row soon enough because it was a

1445
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: fun experience.

1446
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: Did you say you saw Garbage at Market Square Arena?

1447
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: The band Garbage? Yeah, ah, the beautiful Shirley Manson and

1448
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: then all those Wisconsin and guitar players.

1449
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: I saw Garbage just this year at the what's it

1450
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: called the here in Atlanta anyway, Marietta. They were opening

1451
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: for Alanis Morrissette.

1452
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 2: I thought, I'm so glad they're still rocking. So she's

1453
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 2: an actress now because she doesn't have to do that.

1454
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 3: Nah.

1455
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: She was great. That was great Garbage. I mean one

1456
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: of those bands that you didn't realize, like, oh, yeah

1457
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,919
Speaker 1: know more songs than I realized from them he hits

1458
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, oh great, Okay, well let's start here.

1459
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've got a modern pack now. This guy,

1460
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: I believe, yes, he was just in his second season

1461
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Cavaliers, one of those guys who are

1462
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: quite good, pretty good player. Exactly where sort of he

1463
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: fits in their current team are still being figured out there,

1464
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,839
Speaker 1: but he was drafted out of where was he drafted

1465
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: out of I don't know, but he has got a

1466
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: very very cool name and he wears number thirty five

1467
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1468
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah the swingman,

1469
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: the swingman, Yes, Coral Cash. Did he come on this yere? Oh? Boy?

1470
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 2: Was he? He's he's kind of like what I wanted

1471
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: Troy Brown to turn and so he's just going to

1472
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: be a Swiss army name. Yes. I like him a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

1473
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: The Cavs as well. They should be really good this season.

1474
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: I think, you know, they've kind of teased us a

1475
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: little bit the last two seasons by you know, Darius

1476
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,919
Speaker 1: Garland's been great and Kevin Love I thought was fantastic

1477
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: last season and now Greg Garlond.

1478
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: I'm so happy Darlond worked out, you see, to get

1479
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: these guys out of college and they play like four

1480
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: games and then you can worry about them, and then

1481
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: for him to come in that second year and being

1482
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: that's so great, clearing about and All Star.

1483
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: Okay, this next guy point guard. Certainly at the end

1484
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: of his career, he was a multiple time All Star,

1485
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 1: very very good player, but we really just haven't seen

1486
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: him play now for what three seasons and I think

1487
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: he just got released by his team and he's signed.

1488
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: I think he signed with the Clips. I think it's official.

1489
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: He's Derek Fisher. No, No, I'm pretty sure that's Derek Fisher.

1490
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: This guy is one of certainly was one of the

1491
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: quickest players when he was in his prime, and never

1492
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: a great shooter. He sort of worked on his mid

1493
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: ranger a bit there, but unfortunately, uh yeah, the injuries

1494
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: have just derailed his career. He can probably still be

1495
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: an effective player, but he certainly I don't think will

1496
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: be the All Star he once was. Him and Bradley

1497
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: Beal did form a Yah, Johnny.

1498
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: Didn't get past the Clippers thing. Yeah, yes, so it

1499
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 2: is official. Yeah, I think he'll be famous here.

1500
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1501
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 2: I think he's got enough old man savvy. You know,

1502
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: he can still fire those those football passes to the

1503
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: corner and find a three pointer. So I'm actually way

1504
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 2: higher on him than I than I would be a

1505
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 2: lot of the usual guys that we haven't seen play

1506
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 2: for six and a half years.

1507
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when when? When was the last time

1508
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 1: though John Wall sort of played good basketball?

1509
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: Was it?

1510
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: I mean? Was it?

1511
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1512
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm not looking for good. Yeah, I'm looking for for

1513
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 2: Reggie Jackson esque. Maybe. Yeah. Well, like usually those guys

1514
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: get signed and they disappear, and it's like, why did

1515
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 2: we think that was going to be anything. I just

1516
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: have a feeling that he might actually play sixty games

1517
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 2: of okay, backup basketball this year.

1518
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the Clippers, like, if they get

1519
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: Kawhi back and Paul George is healthy and wall is

1520
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: you know, seventy percent of what he was, then they

1521
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: should be better. I Mean, I thought Tyler's done a

1522
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: fantastic job coaching them, but they've just been killed with

1523
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,759
Speaker 1: injuries these last couple of seasons.

1524
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: And that's you know, also, who are they going after two?

1525
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: Lawrence Frank But he got to stop saying John Walls.

1526
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, this next guy, he was a very very

1527
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: high draft pick and he's now currently on his second team.

1528
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: He's been an All Star at least once, I think

1529
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: only once, and he made the playoffs this season and

1530
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: was actually very very good. He's a good player. He's

1531
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: he's a very good shooter, very good scorer of the ball,

1532
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: and we're starting to see why he was such a

1533
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: high draft pick out of Duke back in twenty sixteen.

1534
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: I believe he was drafted and former Laker current Pelican.

1535
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, mister.

1536
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: Ingram, mister.

1537
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 2: Year. Yeah.

1538
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 1: I really like the way that he's worked on his

1539
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: you know, sort of mid range jump shot there, getting

1540
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: to his spots become a better play make it too.

1541
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: I think that's that's important because you know, he's got

1542
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands so much, and you know, uh,

1543
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: there's rumors that he's obviously being dangled by the Pelicans

1544
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: here to try to get Kevin Durant. But I'm not sure,

1545
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: not sure if he's uh, not sure if he's going

1546
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: to get traded or not. I think the Pelicans know

1547
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: that he and if he and Zion can get it together,

1548
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,719
Speaker 1: they can be a very very tough team to defend.

1549
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't mess with that at all.

1550
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,600
Speaker 2: And he's a core guy like he's he's one of

1551
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: those guys once he figured out that once his belly

1552
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: gets super strong and he can make those passes and

1553
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 2: lift get lift on jumpers that he couldn't usually do

1554
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: and improvise because he's stronger. Yeah, it's the world is

1555
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: his oyster down there, and I'd really like to keep

1556
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: that together. Because I don't want him shooting one hundred

1557
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: times a game. I want I wants Ion there.

1558
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: So I think that's what do you think with the

1559
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: Zion situation, Like I mean, just.

1560
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: Trying to smile through it. You know, it's he's a kid.

1561
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 2: He's just he's super young, and we don't know who's

1562
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 2: talking to him and who's saying what. You don't know

1563
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: what offends twenty year olds. You don't know what upsets them.

1564
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 2: You don't know what setts them off. And if he's

1565
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 2: down to a certain weight and as the little tiny

1566
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: bones on his feet can handle it this year, then

1567
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: hopefully we'll never have to think about this stuff over again.

1568
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is you just want

1569
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: to see him get through a whole season because we

1570
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,640
Speaker 1: have what he played eighty five games or something so

1571
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: far and in four years, and when you look at

1572
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: what Ja Morant was doing with the Grizzlies, you know,

1573
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: and it looked Jars miss some time as well. But

1574
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: you know Zion, Yeah, Zion just to have not even

1575
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: played at all last season and he was away from

1576
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: the team and all that. But hopefully things go well

1577
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: with Vicky.

1578
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: It was it was not in a good situation. He

1579
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: could have handled that a thousand times better. But I

1580
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: just they hope it's such a memory this time, and

1581
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: you know it's time next year.

1582
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, this guy very close to where you

1583
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: where you live there. It plays for the Bulls, real sharpshooter,

1584
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 1: but seems to be a little bit on the outskide

1585
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: outsides as well now and maybe won't be in the

1586
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: Bulls unicorpe.

1587
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 2: Now, I hope not if it's Kobe White.

1588
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: I hope not bomb Kobe White. Yeah.

1589
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,799
Speaker 2: I am a Kobe fan, and there is stuffs sometimes

1590
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 2: came up with something that they're going to try to,

1591
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 2: you know, put up with his growing pains. And you know,

1592
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 2: if he's a twenty million year player, I'm okay with that.

1593
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 2: He's just score. You love to go in early on

1594
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: these guys that you know, are you're gonna want when

1595
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: they're like thirty years old, And who doesn't want a

1596
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: six Man of the Year bags from now?

1597
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: And that's the thing I think. Sometimes there are guys

1598
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: who are just suited to that role, like a Lou

1599
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 1: Williams Jamal Crawf. And I can see Kobe White as that,

1600
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: like I can see him as just a guy coming

1601
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: off the bench, just gunning away, because that might be

1602
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 1: just the role that's best suited to him where he

1603
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: can get all those shots up as a starter, certainly

1604
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: with DeRozan, you know, and Levigne, I don't. I just

1605
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: don't think his game really works in that sense.

1606
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: And he got he got starter reps, so he you know,

1607
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: we got the you know, he got to learn how

1608
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 2: to play point guard as a starter. He got to

1609
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 2: learn how to how to you know, sit in his

1610
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: hotel room all day and know that he had run

1611
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 2: a team that night. So he got that in. Now

1612
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: you can just go let him be a six. I

1613
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: don't have to worry anything about anything in the world. Yeah, yeah,

1614
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 2: I hope he stays a ball for a long time.

1615
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: Okay, next one, I've got to Yeah, We've still got

1616
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: a few here to go. Okay, this guy, I'm pretty sure.

1617
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: I just signed a contract to extend with his team.

1618
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of this guy because I think

1619
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: he's got sort of Tyson Chandler vibes for the New

1620
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: York Knicks. But he's another one. He's got to get

1621
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: in better shape and stay on the court because I

1622
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: think he's huge to the Knick success going forward. And look,

1623
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: mister Robinson, that's him. Yeah, yeah, I mean this season

1624
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: with the Knicks, what I noticed when he was playing

1625
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: in fourth quarters, he just looked gassed. To me, now,

1626
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: is that conditioning? Is he just not maybe not got

1627
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: a great motor or whatever. But when he's on the court,

1628
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: I feel that the Knicks are so much better because

1629
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,600
Speaker 1: they just have a lob threat and then they have

1630
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: a rim protector. And that's what they desperately need. I mean,

1631
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: going back, you know last season when the Knicks played

1632
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: the Hawks, I went down to the playoff games here

1633
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: they were playing Taj Gibson as they're big you.

1634
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: From, and Brunston is not really going to help that.

1635
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: But yeah, they need they just need they needanimism whatever

1636
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: that word is. They need someone who can just scare

1637
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: people by putting his elbows on the rim. And and

1638
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: you know, maybe that's he's going to learn how to

1639
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: play forty eight minutes for tip so maybe that'll be

1640
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: different this little but he's he could really he's he's

1641
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: shown some skills on the other end. I mean, I

1642
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 2: know you've seen that. Just that he's he's an interesting

1643
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: respect They take him.

1644
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like him, but you just think, how

1645
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: can how can he sort of just be consistent with

1646
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: his minutes and you know, stay out of foul trouble

1647
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: and just stay on the court, you know. But okay,

1648
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: what have we got here? We've got the Frenchman, the Frenchman,

1649
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 1: the the the man who's on his third team. I

1650
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: think he just re signed actually with the with his

1651
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: third team. A very versatile player who started his career

1652
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 1: with the Portland Trailblazers before lucked out in the twenty

1653
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: sixteen Was it twenty sixteen when everyone got all the

1654
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: huge Yeah?

1655
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: Boy did he get one?

1656
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: He got five and one hundred and twenty I.

1657
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 2: Think, And you know he's he's earning it right now

1658
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 2: for another team.

1659
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, because what happened in the end, I think

1660
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: did the did the Hornets just buy him out?

1661
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 2: And then I think I think they did anyway, they

1662
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: made him sit on the bench for making thirty year

1663
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 2: for a Vet. But you know, good for Nicholas Batoum. Yeah,

1664
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: he's a heck of a player and he got lucky

1665
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: at the right time.

1666
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: He sure did. Yeah. I've always admired his game. I

1667
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 1: think he's a very good player and underrated somewhat. But yeah, yeah,

1668
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 1: that Hornet's contract was it was a doozy. It was

1669
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: a doozy. And oh well look it's not his fault.

1670
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: Is it someone off someone off you that much you're

1671
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: going to take it.

1672
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's as we had all those classic for

1673
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: in some moments like the hut to him on the

1674
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: bench and he was telling a guy what to do

1675
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: about basketball and the other time they shot them on

1676
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: the bench and he was, yeah, I should not five

1677
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 2: years more than the money. That's that's a lot for

1678
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: a guy that you've been a a two year gay.

1679
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, Well this next one, I've got a

1680
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: question for you, because who do you think is the

1681
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: greatest non American born player of all time?

1682
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: Wow? There, I mean I still kind of side with

1683
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 2: a Keem over Dirk.

1684
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: Yes, now this is the question because I'm a Hackem fan.

1685
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: I think you know, it's a two way player. I

1686
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: just think he was better than Dirk. Dirk may be

1687
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: the better shooter of the two, but Hakeem was a

1688
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: better all round player. But when this man's career is

1689
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: all done, he's already won, already won more individual as

1690
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: far as MVPs, he's a Defensive Player of the Year,

1691
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: he's a champion, he's a finals MVP. I mean, do

1692
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: you think there's a chance we are talking about you.

1693
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: Know, oh, I mean if I expect at least another

1694
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: fine or two from Giannis from this particular group. So

1695
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: anything less than that is you know, he has to

1696
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 2: topic Keeam and he wants to. That's the best part

1697
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 2: about him is this dude wants it. I didn't I

1698
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 2: didn't see that movie, so I haven't been inspired by

1699
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 2: the you know, the whole story behind him. But he

1700
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 2: wants it. He wants to come back with like a

1701
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: lefty jumper next year. He wants to come back with

1702
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 2: some low post moves in five years. He's he loves basketball,

1703
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 2: He loves he loves the game, and he loves surprising people.

1704
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: So what, we're very lucky to have him as you know,

1705
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: likely the best player in this game.

1706
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing about him that I love is

1707
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: honestly just how he competes. Because you know, that jump shot,

1708
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: while it's improved, you know, still needs a lot of work.

1709
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: But he is not afraid of of going out there

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01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: and taking those big shots, you know, stepping up and

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01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 1: really taking on the challenge. Because against the Phoenix Suns

1712
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: and again going back to that season prior, I mean

1713
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: against the Atlanta Hawks, he came off and it was

1714
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: like that could have been you know, look, it looked

1715
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: like in the moment maybe a season ending injury, perhaps

1716
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: even a career altering injury. He comes back, they're down

1717
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: to well against the Suns, and it was like you

1718
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: just sort of you wondered if it was just one

1719
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: one series too many for the Bucks. And instead they

1720
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: come back and win, and Yannis of course has the

1721
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: incredible block on DeAndre eight, and he has that incredible

1722
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: allyop from Drew Holiday where you know he's basically falling

1723
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: out of bounds and he still dunks it back in

1724
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: Game five that was in Phoenix. Yes, I mean yannas

1725
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: the respect and the admiration I have for him for

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01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: the fact that you know where he came from and

1727
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 1: to already be this good and this dominant at both

1728
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: ends of the floor too, it's truly remarkable. And then

1729
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,600
Speaker 1: he's got the dad jokes. I mean, he's got the

1730
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: dad jokes to boot as well, So like what hasn't

1731
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: what area hasn't he covered yet?

1732
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: Right?

1733
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: Now, I mean, where can he go to become more lovable?

1734
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 2: Do you think is jammed past?

1735
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, jamtastic. Yanna's aunt sneak that from.

1736
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:59,919
Speaker 2: The four or pack? What is that? Yeah?

1737
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: And the graphics a little bit there too, kind of

1738
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: looked like they were trying something, you know with the

1739
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: old skybox there.

1740
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: Maybe that's Wow, that's some junior high class photo stuff

1741
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: right there.

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01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fantastic. All right, Well, this has been great.

1743
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: We've got one card left to go here, and it's

1744
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: the from the Golden State Warriors, one of their one

1745
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: of their young athletic uh, you know, big big guys

1746
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: out of the G League, ignite. I like this guy.

1747
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: I think he's very athletic obviously right now, you know

1748
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,640
Speaker 1: he's sort of deeper in the rotation, but he's the

1749
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: rare double zero. We don't see too many double zeros anymore.

1750
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,600
Speaker 1: And I believe he's actually Cameroonian if if I have

1751
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: that correct as well, or he was born in Cameroon.

1752
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I was unaware of that. If we're talking about

1753
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 2: the same person, is it? Is it mister Moody, No.

1754
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: Not Moody, the other another the other big athletic there. Yes, John,

1755
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: I believe, I believe.

1756
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that. Yeah, he's just the delayed and

1757
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 2: he was so critzy. You just you know, he's a

1758
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: cerebral player. He's not out there like just you know,

1759
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 2: throwing his head at the rim. He was doing starter stuff.

1760
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: He was playing last year, like he actually went to

1761
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: the bench and considered what happened in the first quarter

1762
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 2: and came back in and did something about it. He is,

1763
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: he is just he's gymtastic. I'll tell you. He's a

1764
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 2: stud and a half.

1765
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's actually was born in the Congo, not Cameroon.

1766
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: So yes, but.

1767
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 2: Look how you honest? Yeah.

1768
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the thing with the Warriors. I mean

1769
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: those two seasons I didn't make the playoffs, and I

1770
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: still get moody Kaminga and who knows what's happening there

1771
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: with Wiseman as well.

1772
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean, if if he just turns

1773
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 2: into anything capable, it will look like one. It will

1774
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 2: look like some some red arback stuff. And for them,

1775
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: we want that though as fans, like we want these

1776
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 2: superstars to be surrounded by you know, competent organizations and

1777
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: exciting young players. We don't want Nick, but whom and

1778
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: all these veterans coming in every year. It's it's cool

1779
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: to see Stephen Curry powd around with Cominga and Moody

1780
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 2: and and you know whenever Wiseman's in from Santa Cruz.

1781
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing. I mean, these guys could

1782
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: sort of extend Steph Curry's career by a year or

1783
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: two as off, because if they do come on and

1784
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: they're and they're good, and they're big, and he can

1785
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: throw their moods and they you know, they developed three

1786
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: point shots and they can defend and all that. This

1787
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: Warriorus era is not over by any means. I mean,

1788
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: we could be till talking about this in four or

1789
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: five years time.

1790
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: You know, why can't Curry do Stephen ash stuff in

1791
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 2: eight years? You know, why can't he just hang on forever?

1792
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: His dad hung around forever.

1793
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 1: Can stuff and Clay I want that. I can't imagine

1794
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: Clay is ever going to retire from basketballlight. I can

1795
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 1: see him as a fifty three year old playing for

1796
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: the you know, Sacramento Kings or something like that.

1797
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: But like Garry Power forwards. Yeah, just for he's got

1798
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: old man skills. His dad was a center and again,

1799
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 2: you know, poor, it awful for him, but he hit

1800
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: two years off, so he does. His legs are all shot,

1801
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: but at least he've got some juice in the legs.

1802
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: It's as someone wi Jordan Dick those years off and

1803
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 2: go to Birmingham like that stuff counts having to be

1804
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: in Washington and DC and Philadelphia and and and just

1805
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: still dragging around winter times for year after year after year.

1806
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm super excited about GSW. Yeah.

1807
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: Okay, well that was a pretty good pack too, Kaminga, Yanna,

1808
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: Nicholas batoum Mitchell Robinson, Kobe White, Brandon Ingram john Wall

1809
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: and we started with Isaaca Korro. So wow, you did fantastic.

1810
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,679
Speaker 1: By the way, I wasn't keeping track, but I think

1811
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: you almost went one hundred percent maybe uh on the guessing,

1812
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: which is which is great. Darryl Morey has been on

1813
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: this once and didn't didn't do one hundred percent, and

1814
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: he wanted to come back on. So I actually saw

1815
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 1: him in Vegas. I have to invite him to come

1816
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: back on again because he struggled. He wanted to get

1817
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: out there and have another another crack at it, which

1818
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: is what I admire you know.

1819
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 2: Well, you know, Daryl, it's all about performing under pressure,

1820
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: and you know some of us have it, and you

1821
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: know some of us, you know, trade for James har

1822
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 2: I'd love to, you know, have another chance with Darryl

1823
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, I'm sure it was just a one

1824
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: off for him and I got very lucky that I'm sure.

1825
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: Well, Kelly, I have to say thank you so much

1826
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 1: for your time this morning. This has been this has

1827
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: been long. I think I said to JD, you know,

1828
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: probably only be a forty five minute pod this morning.

1829
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: We're but JD knows that these these tend to go down,

1830
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: these stories and no, but they're great. That's what. That's

1831
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: why I love doing it because you hear about you know,

1832
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: people who are Danny Forts and fans in college. I mean,

1833
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: where else can you go for that sort of content.

1834
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: That's that's remarkable.

1835
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 2: So Damie Fords and Shaman Williams of the same haircut

1836
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: on two thousand and one sound super Star School, look

1837
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 2: that up. Yeah, I'd love this podcast, and thank you

1838
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 2: so much for finally having me on this is this

1839
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: is a treat.

1840
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: Well, we'll have to do it again sometime. But in

1841
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,839
Speaker 1: the meantime, As I said off the top, checkout, Kelly's

1842
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: a fantastic substack there the second arrangement, and he does

1843
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: a fantastic job. And he's got some Calbuccinie bangers coming

1844
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: out soon, So I mean it's worth it alone for that.

1845
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: But thank you again, Kelly, and hopefully we see you

1846
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: we cross part somewhere in the future finals All Star, well,

1847
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: the All Star weekend will be in Indiana or when

1848
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, isn't that I think?

1849
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 2: Man, oh that's right, that's right. Yeah, so I'll see

1850
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: everyone then is it my place?

1851
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: Be careful the stream teamers might just turn up and

1852
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: when they hear.

1853
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm a stream teamer, I know how we function my

1854
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: Eyem's up crew the yeah, no, there are about it well.

1855
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: And also no dunks fans.

1856
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1857
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: So we've got plenty of content coming out this week.

1858
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: As I say, We've got tomorrow, we have Graydon with

1859
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: the no breaks, that's right, Jennis's tomorrow, yes, and then

1860
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: and then tass On and tass on Wednesday with no bunts.

1861
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: He's been doing a fantastic job with that, and then

1862
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: of course the return of Madio on Thursday. I can't

1863
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 1: even I'm so I'm trying to imagine what is this

1864
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 1: good is going to be. I mean it's gonna be

1865
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be some really really deep cuts, I'm sure,

1866
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: and then just some classic Madios and either way it'll

1867
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: be must view. That'll be a one pm Eastern though

1868
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,799
Speaker 1: on Thursday, So everything else ten am as usual Eastern,

1869
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: but Maddie on Thursday at one pm. And then Friday,

1870
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe we'll have some NBA news or maybe

1871
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 1: we'll just do nothing on Friday. Who knows. Yeah, see

1872
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 1: what happens. To see anyway, check all our socials for

1873
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: all those Thanks everyone for joining us, and Clipper bros.

1874
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn

1875
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: up love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us everybody,

1876
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: and we'll see you tomorrow