1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal holl that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edo State 6 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: is that woo woom and them and tie Dan Rubinstein. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: It's been a week. It's gonna be a week here 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: in college football Week nine. We've got a lot to discuss. 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: We're going to get through all of of course, the 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: biggest games of the week. Give you our picks, give 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: you our plays, give you our fantasy things, give you 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: a weather report, and of course we're going to start 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: at the top momentarily with all things Michigan and signs, stealings, 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: sort of the news of the day, of the week, 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: of the year here in the wide world of college football. 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: How are you? 17 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm terrific, ty, i am great, I am excited to 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: talk about this. I'm gonna call it you ready spectacular Saturday. 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: So it's not that creative You've had better. 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: I know, well, originally it was gonna be soil your 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: pants Saturday, both reference to how my stomach is feeling 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: and with what. 23 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Did you say? It was? 24 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: Seven of the nine unbeaten teams are on the road. YEP, 25 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: So there is something there. It's it's your preference. It's 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: dealer's choice if it's a soil your pants Saturday or 27 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: a spectacular Saturday. And I guess there's something spooky about 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: soiling your pants. I'm not gonna stay hung up on 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: this particular activity, but Ty, I think we got a 30 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: great week ahead. 31 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: We do. We should start with the news though. If 32 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: you're cool with that, I am. We have bregig now. So, 33 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: what the hell is going on at Michigan? Here's the synopsis. 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Good question. There's an investigation currently underway as to whether 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: or not a Michigan staffer, guy by the name of 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Connor Stallion's good name, very good name. Yeah. By extension 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, violated a rule around in person scout. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: The NCAA has banned it, mostly because of budgetary reasons. 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Not everybody has the travel budget right to say. 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: It's been around since I think the nineties that the 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: rule has existed, because it seems you're right, a travel reason, 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: a resource reason. You know that it's costly to scout 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: a bunch of teams all of the time. 44 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Right. So the allegations here are that mister Stallions was 45 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: either going to or arranging for others to go to 46 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: games around the country, not just big ten games, right, 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: basically to record signals on mobile phones. And there have 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: been pictures that are popped up on message boards and 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: all sorts of stories. Now, of course, this is a 50 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: college football thing, so it has ballooned somewhat out of control, 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: but in effect sending people to games recording on a 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: mobile phone the sidelines throughout the course of the game, 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: presumably then feeding them back to him or somebody on 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: the staff so that they could decode them stabs, I 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: believe is the word you were looking yah, So they 56 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: could decode them, and so when it comes time to 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: play a particular opponent, they've got some info as to 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: what plays they might be calling. Many videos making the 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: rounds on social media of this guy Connor Stallions being 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: on the sidelines pointing to the sky in a Michigan 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State game. 62 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Well it was just it was pointing to the sky 63 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: with a number of other players and coaches and staffers 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: on the sideline indicating to the Michigan defense after a 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: you know, a look, hurry up and look at me 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: kind of moment for Ohio State getting a hand signal 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: in to adjust to play, and Michigan immediately decoding said play. 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Decoding said play. Many many many opinions on this. For 69 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: my money, I've told us to you and many others, 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: this is the perfect college football story. It really just 71 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: brings together all the things that we like about college football, 72 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: whether it's message boards, are crazy rumors, or a fiery 73 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: rivalry with Michigan Ohio State. Really all the things kind 74 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: of packed together into one nice little I have many 75 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: thoughts on this as a former sign steeler myself, where 76 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: as at. 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: What a safety, a middle linebacker, a big ten middle linebacker. 78 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Is that where you were as a backup infielder my 79 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: junior year while I waited behind the coach's kid on 80 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: the varsity baseball team. Yeah, so I have clearly qualified thoughts. 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: Where are you at? 82 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: I love the story just like you do, especially because 83 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: now there are rumors swirling it was an inside leak 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: to uh. I mean, Pete Famil was the one who 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: I think was the biggest newsbreaker in this situation. And 86 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: uh he was the one who was able to identify 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: a name and identify sort of the architecture of the scheme, 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: and you know, sending people out with phones to different games, 89 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 2: and now you're seeing reports, you know, it's essentially coast 90 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 2: to coast, And we saw Andy Staples bring up I 91 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: think it was Vaulquest the Tennessee message board that had 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: a poster way back in December saying that he knew 93 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: or she knew somebody that was hired by Michigan to 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: go to ten of Sea games to to shoot hand 95 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: signals with a phone. And so it is one seemingly 96 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: pretty elaborate right. Two, It is the only current full 97 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: on operation on this scale that we know of, and 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm positive Michigan fans to the person are saying, everybody 99 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: does it, it's gonna blow over. And I've seen some 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: takes where it's like, well, look they're the hand signals 101 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: are out in the open for anybody to see. And 102 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: also true and also true that in every single game 103 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: everybody's trying to decode signals live to pull a tie. 104 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: As all of the. 105 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: College football coaches have been saying in their press conferences. 106 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: I guess that would be in reference to you getting 107 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: monthsened out in the middle of backup infield or doesn't 108 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: thank you. But the conclusion that I've come to is like, 109 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: obviously Michigan is trying to decipher in the way that 110 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: everybody's trying to decipher, but the operation status, it doesn't 111 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: bother me, It doesn't make me upset. I appreciate when 112 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: teams look for an edge in every single possible way, 113 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: because there's a lot of money on the line, there's 114 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: a lot of pride on the line, there's a lot 115 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: of everything on the line with major college football. But 116 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: there is also that element. And I don't mean to 117 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: sit on the fence here because ultimately I guess I'm 118 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: gonna come to a conclusion, but there is that element 119 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: here where it feels kind of competitively antithetical, where like 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: everybody hopes, every fan hopes that like their coaches are, 121 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: you know, deep in the film room coming up with 122 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: the perfect scheme, teaching it to the players, practicing it 123 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: with the players, and they're just better at preparing in 124 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: an organic way than the other team is. And so 125 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: if there's any sort of doubt cast upon your team's 126 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 2: ability to win, mano almano, head up. You bring your 127 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: best dudes, We bring our best dudes. We gameplan, you 128 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: game plan, Let's see who wins. If there's any doubt 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: cast on that ability. It's kind of shame to be 130 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: a Michigan fan, right that, Like, now everybody's going to 131 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: look at it. So if we're going to cast out 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: on Michigan's ability to play mono amano, even if this 133 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: is common, this is the only operation we have evidence 134 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: of and know of in this moment. So for that, 135 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: I think it's a loss for college football and a 136 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: loss for Michigan. And so I'm fully prepared for more 137 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: evidence of more operations to come out. I can't wait 138 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: to find out if it was an inside job, If 139 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: it was you know what, I'm waiting for a Spurns, 140 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: you know, an anti Harbaugh person within the administration, or 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: a former coach. You know, we've had some coaches leave 142 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: and murky circumstances and with reported bad blood. I can't 143 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: wait to find out more information about this story. But yeah, 144 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: I think it's it's at absolute best, a pretty terrible 145 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: look for Michigan. 146 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: The more they went well, all right, So the ruling 147 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: question is around in person scouting. They banned it for 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: budgetary reasons. For all intents and purposes, it's kind of unenforceable. 149 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: Nless you're really careless. It's pretty much unenforceable. So it 150 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me that Michigan tried. It wouldn't surprise me 151 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: if other schools around the country are also trying. When 152 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: you say elaborate, though, I recoil a little bit because 153 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: this wasn't elaborate. A bank heist is elaborate, right well, 154 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: And this is this is not Michigan bugging rooms within 155 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: the facility. This is not Michigan, you know, setting up 156 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: secret cameras within an indoor practice facility. It's that level. 157 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: It was elaborate to the extent that it was somewhat thorough, 158 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: and they were going to Tennessee games, Oregon games, whatever, 159 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: games to try and make sure that they that they 160 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: were complete and that they had everybody kind of all 161 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: their bases covered right, all the bases covered, thank you. 162 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: So to that end, I don't blame Michigan for trying, 163 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: especially if the rule is unenforceable. It would surprise me 164 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: if it's not something going on elsewhere around college football. 165 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: As you said, the real kicker is how the guy 166 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: get caught, right, He was using his real name to 167 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: buy tickets. That probably confirmed it. But ultimately they're not 168 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: catching the guy unless somebody tips off the authorities. That's 169 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: the story I want to read. That's what I'm very 170 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: very curious about. 171 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: I think there have definitely been instances within this sport 172 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: though that I've talked about it. I think it was 173 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: two years ago when I've mentioned this again with Brent Venables, 174 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: who has this reputation, and we've seen what has happened 175 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: since Clemson lost Brent Venables, and I think it was 176 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 2: the pit game where they went up thirty one to 177 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: nothing in the blink of like a quick toilet run. 178 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: And I think it can make a significant difference. Well, 179 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: and that's my next point, because I've seen a lot 180 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: of hand waving out there regarding the competitive advantage of this, 181 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: a lot of ah, well, like knowing the signals is 182 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: one thing, but then stopping the play is another. And 183 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: sure that's very true, there is no doubt about that. 184 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: Like the video that we referenced earlier going around on 185 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: social media the Michigan sidelines, everybody's pointing up and Ohio 186 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: States scored a touchdown on that play, it didn't stop it. 187 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of folks are like, see, it didn't 188 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: matter anyway, And let me harkenim back to the baseball 189 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: sign stealing days if I could, Yeah, all right, if 190 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: you know a guy is stealing, there's no guarantee, especially 191 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: in the high school ranks, that you're gonna throw him 192 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: at cad enough to throw him out. Yeah, there's no guarantee. 193 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: But what it does give you is a little bit 194 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: more information, and you know not to throw a curveball, 195 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: or if the guy's gonna bunt, you know, to throw 196 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: a high fastball. Make it harder to do. So it 197 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: is not always about getting it exactly right. It's about 198 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: having a little bit more information to give you something 199 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: of an edge. So in football sense, maybe it means 200 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: you're not playing a run when you know a pass 201 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: is coming. You don't know what pass is coming. 202 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: Do you see James Franklin talk about this, I did, Yeah, Yeah, 203 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: Where he would talk about they would have a shot 204 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: play called on a short yardage situation that he would 205 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: consider it to be unpredictable, a whole different conversation about 206 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: James Franklin's ability. It's a whole different thing, whole different thing. 207 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: But yes, the coaches that have commented on it have 208 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: very specifically said it is meaningful it is meaningful. 209 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: It does offer more information, and I think in that 210 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: offers something of an advantage. That is not to say 211 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: that you are getting it one hundred percent right all 212 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: of the time, but football is decided by moments. It 213 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: is decided by these key plays, these big explosion plays, turnovers. 214 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: Having a little bit of extra information can give you 215 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: that edge, and so in that sense, yeah, I think 216 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: it does offer something of an advantage. But everybody is 217 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: trying to decode them in real time. And that's sort 218 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: of the other point because I've seen a lot of 219 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: folks chime in with well, then, like if they knew 220 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: it was happening, if it was common knowledge, why didn't 221 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: they just change the signals? Do you think this guy 222 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: is going to be on the sidelines just hanging out 223 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: if his play sheet doesn't work. Do you think he's 224 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: not good enough to just sort of look on the 225 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: other side and figure out what the new ones are 226 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: after a quarter. By the way, he was standing like 227 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: four feet away from jessic Ter and Jim. Yeah, so 228 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: I think it's foolish to assume that just because this 229 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: guy was there and he had this operation going on 230 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: the side, that he is also not I'm assuming he's 231 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: getting the videos and figuring out the signs. If he 232 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: knows what the signs aren't, it should make it easier 233 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: to figure out in the game what they are. So 234 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: I just think that, like, he's not hacking the matrix, 235 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: I think he's probably good enough to be the science stealer, 236 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: whether it's from video, whether it's on the sidelines in game, 237 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: which by the way, isn't really that illegal, and everybody 238 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: kind of does it. 239 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: I weirdly, by the way, fully believe Jim Harbaugh had 240 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: no concept that it was happening. I fully believe that 241 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: in an operation this wide spread that there would be 242 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: like a very keen focus on plausible deniability. And that 243 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: was I think that was in the Tennessee message board post. 244 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: Whatever credibility you want to give that like Harbaugh had 245 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: no concept it was happening. 246 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: That's fine. But the rule, the way it is written, 247 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: presumes that he knows, right, Yeah, of course, and so 248 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: control over whether or not Jim Harbaugh did or didn't 249 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: know is almost irrelevant because it's against the rules. That 250 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: they find that this thing was happening within his program, 251 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: then he's going to be on the hook for it, 252 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: And that's where I think things are right now, Like 253 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: we are waiting to have more reporting out there from 254 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: Pete Famil and others, and messageboard geniuses on Twitter and 255 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: folks on Reddit who you know, obviously care about this 256 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: stuff a great deal. More and more information is going 257 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: to trickle out, and at some point the Big Ten 258 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: is going to decide it once it's pound of flesh. 259 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: And when that happens, I think all bets are off, 260 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: because that's when this story goes to an entirely different stratosphere. 261 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: There's already been smoke around. Well, maybe the Big Ten 262 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: will and I'll ban them from the postseason. 263 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: First of all, I think you have ninety days to 264 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: respond to a notice of allegations, right. 265 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: Well, but this is but that's from the NCAA. This 266 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: is right on the conference on the conference level, is 267 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: something that can be enacted much quicker. I just feel 268 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: like that is where the story is going next. Tony Petiti, 269 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: the new commissioner for the Big Ten, has a certain 270 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: amount of exclusive authority that he can exercise if he 271 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: decides that, you know, these rules have been violated in 272 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: a way that violates competitive balance and integrity. The spirit 273 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: is sanctity and all that stuff. So I think that's 274 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: where this is going next, and we will obviously talk 275 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: about it when it gets there, but this is still 276 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: very early days. And I suspect that the more information 277 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: that comes out, if we start seeing videos like the 278 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: Big Ten, is going to feel compelled to do something, 279 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: whether you agree with that or not, and that's when 280 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: this is going to get truly controversial. What we're seeing 281 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: now is fun and games, but once they start trying 282 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: to actually enact punishment, this is going to go haywire. 283 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: It's just so okay. 284 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: My final thought in terms of punishment is the Big 285 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: ten is whatever the NCAA does eventually, Who knows when 286 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: the Big ten is going to look at discipline or 287 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: no discipline or whatever. In this situation, one, the rule 288 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: is in a gray area. The rule does not stipulate 289 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: scouting by using phones or other technology. And the way 290 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: I think I believe maybe you know better than I 291 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: with right with the Houston astros and stuff, they're like 292 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: specific things that are outlined in terms of recording devices, 293 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: and I don't believe that's outlined in like the nineties 294 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: rule that was written down because the concept of having 295 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: a tiny little video camera when people were wearing backpacks 296 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: with batteries in nineteen ninety three or whatever. It's just 297 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: completely unthinkable. So the big ten run by a TV 298 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: executive just having signed a new deal is not going 299 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: to suddenly want less Michigan in competitive spaces. And so, yeah, 300 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: perhaps there will be a punishment, maybe some scholarships here 301 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: and there, maybe something docked. I do not think, you know, 302 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: maybe there's another suspension for Harbaugh or some sort of 303 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: slap on the wrist. It's just not the reality in 304 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: which we live when television is running the sport that 305 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: they're going to take away one of the biggest actors 306 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: in the country from your sitcom not gonna happen. 307 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Yep. 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It is your Oregon Ducks. 348 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: It is the Utah you It's Oregon favored by six 349 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: and a half, seven points depends where you look. My 350 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: question is what is the point spread if Oregon punts 351 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: it away and doesn't give the ball back to Michael 352 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: Pennocks at midfield, that Washington game. Yeah, and wins the game, 353 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: is what you're saying. And wins the game? 354 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: What because Michael Penix did take the ball and go 355 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: down the field quite quickly and would have after a punt. 356 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm positive, but okay, So if Oregon's undefeated in this moment, 357 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: Cam Rising declared out for the season, I think Utah's 358 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: down their two best running backs, their two best tight ends, 359 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: their best defensive end, their best linebacker. They're out a 360 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: lot of dudes. So if it's six and a half 361 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: right now. I don't know, maybe nine points the rest 362 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: of the way, if it goes the same way for 363 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 2: Utah and Oregon after that moment, Yeah, something like that. 364 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Eight or nine points. Yeah, this this line tells us. 365 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: I think that if the game were in Eugene, separate 366 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: from the whole Washington result. Yeah, if the game we're 367 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: in Eugene, the Ducks are favored by like ten points, 368 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: which is a big it's a big number. It's close 369 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: game last year twenty to seventeen, when the game was 370 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: in Eugene. Okay. I saw a clip this week from 371 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: our friend Yogi Roth at Pack twelve Network, yep, and 372 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: he compared Utah, I thought, rather aptly to a biker gang. 373 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: He's been saying that, Yeah, the biker gang thing, which 374 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: I love. He's basically saying they roll in and they 375 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: just sort of take over. I don't fully know what 376 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: that means, I right it, but I love the idea 377 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: of it. Kyle Whitting him certainly as the hair for it. 378 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's grown it out really thick, 379 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: strong headed hair looks great, looks great. That comparison frightens 380 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: me terribly because I think it's true. So I am 381 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: worried that my initial read of Oregon minus whatever is 382 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: going to fall by the wayside here because Utah is 383 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: just a team that everybody always underestimates, and they find 384 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: a way to win these games, or at. 385 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: Least they seem to find a way to win these 386 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: games at home, especially salt like at altitude whatever, and 387 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: rights acle can be I don't know, it can be 388 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: pretty loud and energetic, electric, So the home field thing, 389 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: speaking of homefield really makes sense in this case. Continue 390 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: allow me to be the friendly neighborhood you hater though, 391 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: if I could please. I think the plain, very obvious 392 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: truth in this game is that Utah has not scored 393 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: against average defenses this season. Well, is it seven points 394 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: against Oregon State? Seven points against Utah? I mean the 395 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: offense scored seven and they had to pick six. 396 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, like you said, they're down two running 397 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: backs seven point against UCLA. Yeah, seven points right, Yeah, 398 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: down two running backs, two tight ends, wide receiver, d end, 399 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: linebacker came rising for the season. As you said, they 400 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: just have to play in such a specific way to 401 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: win a game like this. I don't I don't think 402 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: they can play it against Oregon I don't think they 403 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,959 Speaker 1: can play it against Oregon. The other thing is the defense. 404 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: If you look at their numbers, defense is given up 405 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: a lot of big plays and they've worked around it 406 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: thus far, but they can't do that forever. This is 407 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: not the kind of stat that you can hide from 408 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: all season long, especially against better teams like Oregon. So 409 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: I think Oregon wins. I don't feel great about it. 410 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: I'm not going to bet it, but I think Oregon 411 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: wins something like twenty seven to seventeen. It's a low 412 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: scoring game. Are we going to do the live watch 413 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: along for this? Yeah? I would love to watch it 414 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: with everybody. 415 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: If you guys want to to come out, I think 416 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: it'll just be on Soliverblelive dot com right at three 417 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: thirty Eastern twelve thirty Pacific. Okay, so coming out and watch. 418 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll bring in a couple of guests and do 419 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: a watch along on YouTube. I think that's reasonable to say. 420 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: The big keys to me that scare me as an 421 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: Oregon human is bo Nix and this Oregon offense on 422 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: the road. After showing some struggle in those big moments 423 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: against Washington, after showing some struggle in the passing game 424 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: against Texas Tech. Obviously a slow start against Stanford that 425 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: they were able to then steamroll the Cardinal as the 426 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: game wore on. But this hasn't been a machine on 427 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: the road, and this is going to be there their 428 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: most difficult road battle, if not the most difficult game 429 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: overall for the rest of the season, considering that USC 430 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: and Oregon State are both at home in odds and stadium. 431 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: So no, I think the same things that I've been 432 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: concerned about with Oregon I think hold even more true 433 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: against Utah. It's offensive line penalties. Can't turn second and 434 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: eights into second and thirteen's Uh, it's going to be 435 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: bo Nicks hitting open receivers and seeing open receivers in 436 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: on third and six, on fourth and two, whatever, because 437 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: I think those guys have been there. It's will Stein 438 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: calling the plays, calling executable obvious two yard conversion plays 439 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: in those you know, fourth and one moments that you 440 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 2: just you have to have that arsenal of excelsior. That's 441 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: what I call my never fail pack, ever failed pack. 442 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 2: And then defensively, it's just guys making plays on the edge. 443 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: I was talking to our friend Jeff Schwartz about it 444 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: and he was like, this is you know, Sione Baki 445 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: has energized this Utah offense, but USC played this team terribly. 446 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: USC's front is small, and they tackle poorly, and they 447 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 2: take bad lanes and they get out of position. I 448 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: think Oregon's a much more talented and much better coach defense, 449 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: and so if Oregan's able to set an edge here, 450 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 2: they should be able to get off the field on defense, 451 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: because I'm not terribly worried about the secondary being gashed, 452 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: and I'm not terribly worried about Utah doing something over 453 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: and over successfully for four quarters because Oregon is adjusted 454 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: really well at halftime. We saw it against Washington, we 455 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: saw it against Wazoo on defense. So I have Oregon 456 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: winning relatively close, because I still think to win in 457 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 2: Salt Lake City is just such a tall task. 458 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: And you know, I. 459 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: Never like picking against spread wise a good defense at 460 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 2: home as an underdog. So I have this as Utah 461 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: covering Oregon winning twenty three seventeen ducks. 462 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: Okay, we sort of agree. Let's get to our second 463 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: big dog. Also at three point thirty on CBS, it 464 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: is the Georgia Bulldogs minus fourteen and a half squaring 465 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: off again, Florida, formerly known as the world's largest outdoor 466 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: cocktail party, they changed the name because of alcohol related 467 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: incidents a while ago. 468 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 2: I've been, I've had alcoholic beverages. I've had a great time, 469 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: and it's still the cocktail party to me. 470 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: It's still the cocktail party to me. That's right. Story 471 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: here is no brock Bowers. The story is. The story 472 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: is no brock Bowers. Brock Bowers is out for some 473 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: period of time. He had what's called the tightrope procedure 474 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: on his ankle. Fairly common procedure, kind of a miracle 475 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: of science. But he's going to be out a few 476 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: weeks while he recovers, likely the remainder of the regular season, 477 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: but we'll see about conference championships and whatnot. I went 478 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: back and looked at how Bill Connolly's projections were doing 479 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: relative to the Georgia offense. I was kind of surprised 480 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: at what I saw. Yeah, kind of caught me off guard. 481 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: In five of Georgia's seven games, the offense has been 482 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: at least four points worse. The defense has been more stable, 483 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: but also has undershot projections in like five of their 484 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: seven games as well. So that to me was telling. 485 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: And I came into this with an initial impression of, well, 486 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: it's Georgia against whoever, so I'm going to lay the number, 487 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: don't care if it's a rivalry or whatever. But then 488 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I started talking myself into the other side of this bet. 489 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: Did you have similar conflict bouncing around within your dan breen? Oh? 490 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: I always have conflict bouncing around my dan brain. Okay, 491 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to take the points in this game, and 492 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to take the points because I don't trust anybody, 493 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: and so I can get two outcomes taking the points. 494 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: I can get Florida winning or Florida losing close, and 495 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: you can only get. 496 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: You know, one outcome with two your winning? 497 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: Big? 498 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, you think Florida's good enough to win this game though? Yes? 499 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: Really yeah. 500 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: I think Georgia's slow starts, especially away from home. I 501 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: think a Georgia offense that has been good but not great, 502 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: but has not been good early but also hasn't faced 503 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: quarterbacks who could take advantage. Right like Spencer Ratler looked 504 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: very good, but he couldn't take advantage for four quarters 505 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: because Georgia was able to adjust against a South Carolina 506 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 2: offensive line that was garbage in that matchup over the 507 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: course of those four quarters. So yes, I think Florida 508 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: is good enough to win this game because I think 509 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: they're competent in enough areas to take advantage of a 510 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: team missing its best players and is just not used 511 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 2: to playing four good quarters against quality team. I don't 512 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 2: think Flora is amazing. I don't think Florida is especially 513 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: amazing away from Gainesville, but in this specific matchup, in 514 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: a rivalry game with a quarterback in Graham Martz who 515 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 2: hasn't been going downfield a ton, but has been accurate 516 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: enough and has been clean enough and avoiding picks enough 517 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: that I think Florida is a more complete team than 518 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: what they've faced thus far. They blew out Kentucky and 519 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: they're most Georgia did in their most complete matchup of 520 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: the season, and a lot of that had to do 521 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 2: with finally getting plays off down field. I just don't 522 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: think Florida is going to I think Florida will give 523 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: a couple up, but I don't think Florida is going 524 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: to be on that level because Kentucky had no offense 525 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 2: and so they were pairing up their defensive struggles with 526 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: their own offense, leaving the field quickly, whereas I think 527 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: Florida is run well enough that they're going to keep 528 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: the Georgia offense enough off the field. This is also 529 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: the first game, first big game like this for Carson 530 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 2: Beck in the cocktail party, whatever we want to call 531 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: it matchup, So I just think it's going to be 532 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: back and forth. I think Georgia wins this game by 533 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: a touchdown. 534 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: I do. 535 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be like thirty to twenty 536 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: three something in there. Yeah, But I struggle to think 537 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: about Georgia's offense with the inconsistencies early, and they really 538 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: haven't shown a lot in going downfield, especially without Brock. 539 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: Powers Well, and that's the thing. I think there's maybe 540 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: a bit of a speed bump because we've seen the 541 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: Kentucky game. The Canucky Georgia game was a really good 542 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: example of they let Carson Beck drop back and throw 543 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: it right away to Brock Bowers. Kentucky had no answer 544 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: for it. They know nobody does. No, nobody does but Kentucky, 545 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: especially because I remember we previewed that game and it 546 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: was like, well, if they come out and they run 547 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: at Kentucky can stop that. Kentucky could not stop Rock Bowers, 548 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: perhaps nobody can, and now nobody has to worry about 549 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: it for a couple of weeks because he's out, And 550 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: so I just wonder if it takes a little bit 551 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: for this offense to get going and figure out what 552 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: that new normal is. They've got dudes. It's not like 553 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: they don't have guys to play, but we just have 554 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: not seen that yet. And this is a big number, 555 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: right it is, That's all to say, is a really 556 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: big number. Fourteen and a half is a big number 557 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: in a game without your best offensive threat. I agree 558 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: with you. Actually, I think that Georgia comes out winning 559 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: this game, but they don't have the normal firepower because 560 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: Rock Bowers is out. He was such a matchup disadvantage 561 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: that could pull defenses out of shape. Florida does not 562 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: have to worry about that now, which is good for them. 563 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: They will also be fired up and focus for this matchup. 564 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: And I should also add that Georgia is one of 565 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: the worst teams in the country against the spread. Also true, 566 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: they're covering about twenty percent of the time, so I 567 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: think it's something like twenty eight to seventeen. I think 568 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: it's lower scoring and within fourteen and a half. I 569 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: can to agree with you. Third down is gonna be huge. 570 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean, third down is normally huge, just because I mean, 571 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: first of all, you want teams that acquire first downs 572 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: on first and second down. But Florida on third down, 573 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: their offense has not been good, whereas Georgia's defense on 574 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: third down against in third down moments has been excellent. 575 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: But Florida's own defense has been great on third downs, 576 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: and Georgia's offense has been good on third downs. 577 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: And so there's a. 578 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: Potential mismatch when Florida has the ball, but Florida might 579 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: be able to make up for it, as their own 580 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: third down defense has been pretty great this year. Florida 581 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: is like top thirty in yardage per drive allowed. So 582 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: what do you have as a final? 583 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Well, I have twenty eight seventeens. My final twenty eight 584 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: to seventeen. Yeah, I like it. Georgia final big Dog. 585 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: We sparred a little bit over this one. What our 586 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: final big dog was going to be? I selected Oklahoma Kansas. 587 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: We will talk about Ohio State and Wisconsin next as 588 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: part of the next segment, I promise you, but I 589 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: settled for Oklahoma at Kansas because I thought the situation 590 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: was more interesting. So this game is earlier. This game 591 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: is twelve o'clock on Fox. Oklahoma is a ten point 592 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: road favorite at Kansas. I am intrigued by Kansas. I 593 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: remain intrigued by Kansas. I did the deep dive on 594 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: the Jayhawks over on our Patreon a couple weeks ago, 595 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: and my conclusion was, basically, Kansas does not have a 596 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: shutdown defense. We didn't expect them to. They've got a 597 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: below average defense, but they are marginally better than they 598 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: were a year ago. And there are some things that 599 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: they do really well. They don't give up big pass plays. 600 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 1: They've been very good at preventing those so far this season. 601 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: They've been significant better at creating pressure. That is not 602 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: to say that they've got like Chase Young on the line. Okay, 603 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: this is not a world class pass rush, but it 604 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: is not Kansas class from years past. It is better. 605 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: And because they're putting some pressure on opposing quarterbacks, that 606 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: led to a spike in havoc rate. Right defensive plays 607 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: that changed the game, be it pass breakups, force fumbles, 608 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: tackles for loss, that type of thing. They are much 609 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: much better this year at doing it up something like 610 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty spots compared to where they were 611 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: a year ago. They need a lot of them in 612 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: a game like this if they actually want to win 613 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: the game. But I think it's interesting because Kansas gets 614 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: this game at home. I think it's interesting because Oklahoma 615 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: had a scare last week. I think it's interesting because 616 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: Oklahoma may have a bit of a look ahead spot 617 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: given the fact that the Bedlam game is next week 618 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: on the road in Stillwater. So I look at this 619 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: and I say, possible hangover effect, possible look ahead of fact. 620 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: I know you don't think much of Kansas. I know 621 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: you've been dismissive of Kansas when I've picked them in 622 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: other spots. So I suspect I know which way you 623 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: are going here, right. But I think Oklahoma wins this 624 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: game in Kansas barely covers. I'd like a shootout kind 625 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: of thing. Thirty eight to twenty nine is my thirty 626 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: eight twenty nine. Yeah, Okay, let's get a niner in there. 627 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong about the letdown look ahead UCF 628 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: last week Bedlam on the road, by the way, so 629 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: it's two straight road games for Oklahoma. 630 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 631 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: A couple things this is going to be a Jason 632 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: Bean game. I believe Jalen Daniel still healing. Jason Bean 633 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: is dug into the numbers, tie real bad in the 634 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. So if you are supposed to, if you 635 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: are pitching me on sort of a back and forth 636 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: within reach kind of matchup, that's a worrisome element of 637 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: this that ooh, Kansas is within six with eleven minutes left. 638 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: Spice up, there's a pick six right that. I don't 639 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: think it's a sure thing, but it's something I'm paying 640 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 2: attention to because I like quarterbacks who get stronger over 641 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: the course of a game, and you know our clutch 642 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: in those moments. And we've seen Kansas have opportunities late 643 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: this year and not be able to close, whereas Oklahoma 644 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: has closed quite nicely the way they finished out the 645 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: Texas game. Of course, the way they finished out UCF, 646 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: say what you bet will only beating them by one. 647 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: I think I would like Kansas a little more here 648 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: if Oklahoma's run defense was suspect, but they've actually been 649 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: pretty strong against the run this year. Kansas at its 650 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: best is a team that runs super well. We saw 651 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: that I think it was against UCF, but it might 652 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: have been a UCF team without John Rice plum Las. 653 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: Memory serves it is a running offense. It is a 654 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: run offense, and it is not an offense that goes 655 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: particularly fast, so they need to be efficient otherwise the 656 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: whole thing breaks down. 657 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: Yes, So for that reason, I think I'm gonna I 658 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: am going to I'm not just going to think I am. 659 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 2: I'm taking Oklahoma to win this by thirteen or fourteen points, 660 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: by two scores relatively late. But I think they have 661 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: a strong fourth quarter and finished strong because ultimately, I 662 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: think their team speed on both sides of the ball. 663 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: I still feel sunken about Oregon out landing Peyton Bowen, 664 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 2: who has been absolutely incredible all over the field for 665 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: this Oklahoma defense, and I think they're gonna be able 666 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: to make plays on both sides of the ball. Oklahoma 667 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: here thirty four, twenty one, thirty seven, twenty three. 668 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: He said on twenty three, Look, yeah, yeah, Peyton Bowen's 669 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: been nails. So this year he's been, he's been, He's 670 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: been really good, and as is Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel 671 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: has been really good. Yeah, oklahol Like, I don't mean 672 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: to undersell Oklahoma. Oklahoma has been obviously very good and 673 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: they've been better than I expected, so good good on them. 674 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: They've just burnt me so many times on the freaking 675 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: I know I can't do it again. I just can't 676 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: do it. So we disagree here on the last pick. 677 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: As you are watching all these big dogs, make sure 678 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: you give us a holler at eight five five verbal three. 679 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: That's the reverbline. We are, of course, building towards our 680 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: week nine campfire, which is our time building. We're building. 681 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 2: We're building toward that we nine campfire, getting Matt Lumber, 682 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: getting those logs. 683 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: All right, that's it. Yeah, I'm deepot not a sponsor. 684 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: Could be eightf I five verbl three. We will play 685 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: your voice messages as part of that episode. The next segment. 686 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: The next segment we call the quad Fathers. 687 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 4: I think about the heart, the passion and love, the 688 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 4: commitment and the energy you're willing to put into it. 689 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: Such a ridiculous sound or Thomas Platts. Thomas Plots, known 690 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: more effectively as the quad father from back in the 691 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: seventies had thirty inch quads. We're not doing that. Thankfully. 692 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: We did have USA Powerlifting reach out to us this 693 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: is true. A coach reach out to us justin really 694 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: long time listener, and he said, by the way, don't 695 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 1: do the quad father workout. You will be crippled. So yeah, 696 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: that makes sense. All good. You want to give yourself 697 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: some rab thought, All good. We're not We're not going 698 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: there with with this. Instead, the quad Fathers, at least 699 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: in our sense, means if you've got any number of 700 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: various unnamed streaming providers, all of which aren't sponsors but 701 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: could be probably wouldn't want to be on the show, 702 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: they let you pick four games to watch it once. 703 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: We're selecting our quad. We're selecting our solid verbal quad. 704 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 2: The four headliners from the various windows. 705 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: The four headliners from the various windows. The big window 706 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: this week is at night. Sorry, continue, It's Halloween weekend. 707 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: No reason for you. I can't have some surge in there. 708 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: No reason for you to play that right there. I 709 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: know I scared. I scared at least fourteen people right there. 710 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: Scared me. I didn't even know what's coming. Night window, 711 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: I think is the big one for me, not just 712 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: like Halloween weekend in college football, but with respect to games. 713 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: There are some biggies here. The big one I think 714 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: in the in the night slot at seven thirty on 715 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: NBC is Ohio State at Wisconsin. So it's a big 716 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: point spread. Ohio State's favored by fourteen and a half 717 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: on the road. But obviously this is a game that 718 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: is of particular interest to a pretty big chunk of 719 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: our fan base. We have a lot of Ohio State 720 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin people that listen. Tanner Mordecai went down, Brandon 721 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: Locke came in and led a comeback effort against Illinois. 722 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: He was the Big Ten Freshmen of the week, last 723 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: week's red shirt freshman, the transfer from Mississippi State. I 724 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: want to say sounds right. I watched him last week. 725 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: I thought he looked calm. I thought he gave them 726 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: a spark. It was also pretty freaking windy in that game, 727 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: so it wasn't the easiest of passing conditions for him. 728 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: So I don't read too deeply into the fifty percent 729 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: or whatever completion percentage letdown spot for Ohio State. After 730 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: the Penn State win last week. They're on the road, 731 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: they're at night. It's Camp Randle against the good defense. Chile. 732 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: Should be about forty degrees thirty eight degrees yep, Chili. 733 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: So this is the game that I think we want 734 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: to pick, that we want to focus our attention on 735 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: the other games in our dream quad here at night, 736 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: even though the time isn't exactly such that it pairs up. 737 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: There's the ten thirty block with Oregon State at Arizona. 738 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: There is the seven o'clock game on ESPN between Tennessee 739 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: and Kentucky. And then I picked as the final game 740 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: in the quad. And maybe we could argue about this 741 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,479 Speaker 1: one ESPN two eight pm at Cincinnati at Oklahoma State. 742 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: So those are my thoughts are do you know what 743 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: my thoughts are? In Cincinnati? What do you say? Cincinnati 744 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State? Cincinnati Oklahoma State. Yeah, Oklahoma State favored by 745 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:30,959 Speaker 1: seven and a half. 746 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: No, that's my full thought. Sorry, I got I should 747 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 2: be banned. I should I should have my soundboard taken away. Okay, 748 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 2: let's start with the quad. 749 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Yes, give me the quad, give me give me the 750 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: Ohio State Wisconsin pick. 751 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm taking Ohio State and I kind of hate it. 752 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 2: I kind of hate it because it's on the road 753 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 2: and Wisconsin's defense has been solid, if not pretty good, 754 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: most of the year. It's been a weird season. For 755 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 2: Wisconsin and now having to sort of answer for an 756 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 2: offense without its quarterback, it's starting quarterback. I'm not in 757 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 2: on Branden like I think you are, or at least 758 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 2: hope to be this year. Okay, let's not say I'm 759 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 2: in on Brandon Locke. I saw him one game against 760 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: a bad team. I still think it's a nice matchup 761 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 2: because Ohio State has really struggled both with injuries and 762 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: actually running the ball. Injuries to running backs. We've seen 763 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 2: you know, Trey Henderson May and Williams Chip train them, 764 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: Dllen Hate. All these guys have been you know, beat 765 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: up this year to different extents, and I think that's 766 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 2: where you can get Wisconsin on the ground a little 767 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 2: bit more, because I think they've been pretty good against 768 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 2: the pass. They don't have a huge pass rush this year. 769 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 2: I think they eventually will with Luke Fickle, but I 770 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: am cautiously optimistic that Ohio State through the air. I 771 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: think it might have of the feel of like the 772 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 2: Maryland game, like the combination of an opportunistic, speedy defense 773 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 2: getting healthier, locking down in the second half, and maybe 774 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 2: a couple of shot plays that go really nicely for 775 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: Ohio State. 776 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: I have them winning by twenty. I'm still laughing at 777 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: that sound. I don't have any more, sir, still laughing 778 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: at the no. That's I don't know where you find these. 779 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 2: So that's my pick. I'm taking Ohio State to win 780 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 2: by three touchdowns. 781 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: Ish yeah, I mean my concern is I don't think 782 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: Wisconsin's that good. 783 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 2: I'll be playing well the defense. I think the defense 784 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: is getting get done. They're like fifteenth nationally in points 785 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: per drive allowed this year. 786 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: The defense is fine. Ohio State's the better team. Braidon 787 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: Locke is not beating the Buckeyes. So for me, it's 788 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: a question of if they can score on Ohios can 789 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: they get to seventeen points on Ohio State? Can they 790 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 1: get to seventeen? Can they hold Ohio State under thirty? 791 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: Because if that's the case, then I think we're talking 792 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: about a cover here. That's the question. I'm gonna take 793 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: the points because it feels like hostile road environment at night. 794 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what state Ohio State's going to be in. 795 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: Given they had the big win last week. It's maybe 796 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: a bit of a hangover from that. I don't know, 797 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: but just seems like a lot of points on the 798 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: road at night in a hostile environment against the good defense. 799 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go points. 800 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: And this year, by the way, Ohio State on the road, 801 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: if we're talking about offensive output against quality teams, Ohio 802 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 2: State on the road this year was the sort of 803 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: disappointing twenty three to three win over Indiana, seventeen to 804 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 2: fourteen against Notre Dame, and what they were good against Perdue, 805 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 2: And so they really haven't shown that much against a 806 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: quality team in terms of finding a groove and a 807 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: rhythm on offense on the road this year. Could happen 808 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: this week, but they just haven't shown it. 809 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: I think the ten thirty ESPN game, the PAC twelve 810 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: after dark game between Oregon State and Arizona is going 811 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: to be a banger. Arizona is my home dog of 812 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: the week, the Yakos home dog of the week. They 813 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: are eighty six percent against the spread. They're a good 814 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: team with a potent offense. Got a backup quarterback and 815 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: Noah Fafida, who I think is going to play. He's 816 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: got a hot hand right now. He got a ranked 817 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: team coming to Tucson at night Halloween weekend. Dan, I mean, 818 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: how else could we stack this against Oregon State. They 819 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: could play like they could play it under a ladder? 820 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: Would that would that make it any worse? So I 821 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: don't know. It just seems like everything is stacked against 822 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: Oregon State. I grab this point spread to be clear 823 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: at five and a half earlier in the week. There's 824 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: been a lot of action on this one. At time 825 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: of recording, it's three and a half, but I've seen 826 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: it as low as three. So a lot of people, 827 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: I think have the same idea I. 828 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 2: Have, eras you don't have to play this sound again 829 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: unless you truly want to. But I have Arizona as 830 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: the home dog of the week two. And it's especially 831 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: interesting picante to me because Tucson home to a lot 832 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 2: of great Sonoran hot dogs. I don't know if you're 833 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 2: familiar with that, but the remember I used to pick 834 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 2: the hot dog place to go to for our home dogs. 835 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: Sonoran dogs that. 836 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: You're talking like bacon and guacamole and beans and all, 837 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 2: you know, all sorts, carne asada. It's mao salsa aia like, 838 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: and they just make a big it's a party, it's 839 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: a fiesta on a hot dog. So I'm sticking with 840 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 2: that theme too here. I like Arizona as well, and 841 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: it's mostly because I think Oregon State the numbers are 842 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 2: a little bit in inflated. We talked about this on 843 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: our bonus Thursday verballers dot Com show that I think 844 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 2: their defensive numbers are a little bit inflated given the 845 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: offenses or the lack thereof they've played this year and 846 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 2: Arizona's balance on offense and emerging threat on defense. 847 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: To me, I don't know. 848 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 2: They just weird things happen in Tucson at nights. I'm 849 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: going with Arizona to win out right here. I just 850 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: think it's a tough opponent and a tough place to 851 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: play in a tough spot. So I'm going Cats here. 852 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: I really do like Oregon State overall. 853 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: The ability to run the ball. 854 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 2: The best of DJU can be quite dangerous. I just 855 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 2: don't think they have the defense to match. So I 856 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 2: have Arizona winning this thirty seven to thirty four. 857 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: I've got Tennessee beat in Kentucky outright in our third 858 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: game of this squad. 859 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: Oh, I've got a sound for that, because it's Tennessee 860 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 2: Kentucky week, right is Tennessee Kentucky leek, That's. 861 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: Right, Tennessee in che. 862 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, bigur Bigernie McCracken once again in che Yeah. It's great, 863 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: great fake commercial, Tennessee's favorite. Three and a half in 864 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: the road at Kentucky. A lot of folks taking Kentucky here, 865 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 2: a lot of folks taking Kentucky. I estimate there's about 866 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 2: a ninety three percent chance that this game is unwatchable. 867 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: But it's interesting, it's a good squad, it's a good matchup. 868 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: That's why we put it in the quad. You know, 869 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: we don't want to be willfully ignorant to the biggest 870 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: games of this particular window, and so that's why we 871 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: put it in our in our dream quad again. You 872 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 1: can watch four games at lunch. These are the four 873 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: that we'd watch aboard this year. Underthink express please if 874 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm under thinking this, I don't think Kentucky's very good. 875 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: They've lost their last three games against top thirty caliber opponents. 876 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: Or I should say they haven't lost their last three games. 877 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: I mean, they're five and two. It's really tough. They're 878 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: five and two, but they're five and two. But of 879 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: the last three games that they have played against top 880 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: thirty opponents, they beat Florida. That game was in Lexington. 881 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: They got hammered by Georgia and Miszoo and those games 882 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: were uncompetitive. It legit was not even close. So I 883 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: think it benefits Tennessee that you can beat Kentucky if 884 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: you can throw the ball. We saw that in the 885 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: Georgia game, saw that in the Miszoo game. Tennessee is 886 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: not as good as last year. But I still think 887 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: they went out right and cover. So I got Tennessee 888 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: on the road here. You really underthought it. 889 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, I don't like Tennessee at all. Okay, Kentucky 890 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 2: saw is one of the best running backs in the 891 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: conference in l Ray Ray Davis. How soon you forget 892 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 2: the disrespect Ray. So we're talking about Tennessee in a 893 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 2: letdown moment after a winnable Alabama game slipped away Kentucky 894 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 2: with a good defense coming off of a bye at home, 895 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 2: as an underdog with a running back who at their best. 896 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a home run hitter more than he is, Like, 897 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: give it to him thirty times and he'll pound out. 898 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 2: He's not like a Benny Snell type in that way. 899 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 2: Remember Benny Snell, he was I forget Benny Snell. Just 900 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 2: Dragon dudes. So I have Kentucky winning an ugly affair 901 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: here twenty to seventeen. Okay, I think they can win 902 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: this one with that, with that combination of factors, final 903 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 2: game in the Quad. You said no to it, so 904 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 2: I'll just give you my analysis. I am infatuated with 905 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State after writing them off for dead in May. 906 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is your maya culpa, literally, my maya culpa. 907 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: Eight o'clock ESPN two. Oklahoma State seven and a half points, 908 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: the favorite at home against Cincinnati. So since he beat 909 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: Pit in week two and everybody was like, uh, Cincinnati, 910 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: watch out for Cincinnati. Then they lost five straight. Yeah, 911 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: and if you look now, they're projected to lose ten straight. 912 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: So I stand by what I said last week. I 913 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: think since he's the worst team in the Big twelve, 914 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: they just are. I am a little bit worried about 915 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: the look ahead factor here for Oklahoma State, but it 916 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: feels like these are two teams going in opposite directions 917 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 1: right now. I also think it's probably your last best 918 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: chance to bet on Oklahoma State because, oh interesting, the 919 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 1: Polks have Oklahoma at home next week. That line is 920 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: going to be artificially low, especially if they win this game. 921 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: If they win this game, there's six and two going 922 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: into that one, They've got a ton of steam. I think, 923 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: especially in that case, will be a home dog, and 924 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: people are gonna want to take Oklahoma State. So favored 925 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: by seven and a half here, wouldn't surprise me if 926 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: it came down a little bit before kickoff, I would 927 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: go Oklahoma State. I feel pretty confident about Oklahoma State 928 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: in the spot. Yeah. 929 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 2: I like it as well, the fact that it's at home, 930 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 2: the fact that Cincinnati has I mean, that was a 931 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 2: philger Kovic like mess of an offense, which Pitt has 932 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 2: actually been a little bit better, and protecting Christian Christ 933 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 2: reminding christ Christian Veyue, and they've gotten the ball out quicker. 934 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma State is just better. Oklahoma State has 935 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,919 Speaker 2: gotten its act together. I don't know if I buy 936 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 2: them as a ten and two team this year. I 937 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 2: know I don't, but I think they can be a 938 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: little bit scrappy as long as Alan Bowman is kept 939 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 2: up right in the offensive line looks as good as 940 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 2: it's been. And look, I don't think Cincinnati stopping the 941 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: run in Oklahoma State has one of the best two 942 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 2: or three running backs in the Big twelve in Oli Gordon. 943 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, folks, that is our dream quad. In 944 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: the nightcap, I give you ten seconds to rattle off 945 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,240 Speaker 1: any games that I missed in the nightcap. 946 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I like Washington big against Stanford. I like 947 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 2: Arizona State to finally win one of these close games 948 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 2: in the desert against Wazoo at night. Well it's in 949 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 2: the evening, it's not fully at night, but five Pacific 950 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 2: Wazoo favored on the road. I think ASU can rush 951 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 2: the passer well enough. I like North Carolina big against 952 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. I think Omari and Hampton should be able 953 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 2: to eat any second high up Georgia Tech defense air 954 00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 2: Force big because the defense at Colorado State Ole miss 955 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 2: big against Vandy and James Madison behind the strength of 956 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 2: a very good defense covering seventeen and a half ish 957 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 2: against ODU. 958 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 1: That was good. It was way over ten. But I'll 959 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: get it. 960 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: It's okay, come on, it's okay. You want me to 961 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,399 Speaker 2: play this next time? I can do that. That really 962 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 2: jump starts me. Sound heavy episode here, Good luck editing 963 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 2: this bad boy? 964 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, this will be this is great. Yeah. In the 965 00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: afternoon window, we have a separate quad. So well. Unfortunately, 966 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: some of the streaming providers they dictate what quads you 967 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: have to watch. We were picking the ones we want 968 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: to watch. The four games in this quad are Duke 969 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 1: at Louisville, Pit at Notre Dame, BYU at Texas, and 970 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: Wyoming at Boise State. Okay, the Duke Louisville game is 971 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: a battle between two ranked teams DAN and Louisville's favored 972 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: by four at home. It's on ESPN three thirty. Riley 973 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: Leonard Day to day. We'll wait and see on that front. 974 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: When we last saw our heroes at Louisville, they lost 975 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: to Pitt and crawledon a hole for a week after 976 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,959 Speaker 1: the Notre Dame win. Yeah, that was a really, really 977 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: unexpected loss and not a good one at that. I 978 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,479 Speaker 1: think they're refocused here at home, and Duke hasn't really 979 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: been on the road that much this year. No, they 980 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 1: were on the road last week against Florida State. They 981 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: held it together for a while until Florida State pulled away, 982 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: but five of their seven games so far have been 983 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: at home. One of those road games was Yukon, so 984 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: it kind of doesn't count. I think the Cardinals win 985 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: this game. I think they covered this game. I think 986 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,720 Speaker 1: there's a chance they win this game that they are, 987 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, feeling ten and two. Oh man. I like Willisville, 988 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: I do. 989 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 2: I like Louisville as well here just because of the 990 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 2: questions at quarterback. I think Duke's defense will be good 991 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 2: enough to basically shut down Louisville's offense for a large 992 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 2: chunk of this game. But ultimately, if the Duke offense 993 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: is leaving the field like it started doing when Riley 994 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 2: Leonard got hurt last week against Florida State, I think 995 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 2: Louisville can cover this game, win by six something I 996 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 2: don't know, twenty four to eighteen, somewhere in that vicinity. 997 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 2: By the way, Duke not playing a lot away from home. 998 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 2: Do you know how many games North Carolina has played 999 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,240 Speaker 2: outside of the state of North Carolina? 1000 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: Are They played many true road games? They pull in Florida. 1001 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,240 Speaker 2: They played South Carolina in Charlotte, right, so it's neutral 1002 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: against South Carolina neutral ish. They played at Pitt and 1003 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 2: that's it. Wow, we're going into week nine. They've played 1004 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 2: in one opposing team stadium. 1005 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: That's wild. Yeah, that's Wild's it? I included Pitt Notre Dame. 1006 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: In here, Notre Dame's favored by about three touchdowns twenty 1007 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: and a half points. This is an annual mess of 1008 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: a game, Dan, it's an Now, it's not annual. I 1009 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,439 Speaker 1: guess the last time they played is twenty twenty. Notre 1010 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: Dame one that game by six touchdowns forty five to three, 1011 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: So that one wasn't close. But if you count way 1012 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: back the last nine matchups, seven of them have been 1013 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: one score affairs. It feels to me we've done shows 1014 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,959 Speaker 1: about this. You know where I stand in this game. 1015 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: It is always close, even when it doesn't make sense. 1016 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 1: Pitt Patner, They just like they find a way in 1017 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 1: most Look at its spot for Notre Dame. Right Clemson 1018 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: next week on the road. Whatever, I'm not even worried 1019 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: about that and not even thinking about that right well, 1020 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 1: some of this game. I think this game is one 1021 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: of two things, and it's always true. It's either a 1022 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 1: blowout in the first quarter and you know it's over 1023 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: right away, a flash fry as we've called it. Or 1024 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 1: it's a ten point game, late, three point game, late 1025 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 1: pit's okay against the run. If we've seen anything from 1026 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 1: no it's that it's going to take them three quarters 1027 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: to figure that out, then take of three quarters to 1028 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 1: figure out what do we do next if the other 1029 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: team's good against the run. So I take the points here, 1030 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: not name wins. I might I take the points. It's 1031 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: just the pick game. You gotta take the points. 1032 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 2: I struggled with it, but yeah, I think Pitt's been 1033 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 2: a little bit better. They still rush the pass. I 1034 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 2: know you've voiced your concerns about the Notre Dame offensive line. 1035 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the points as well. It's to me 1036 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 2: it's Notre Dame has earned it on a certain level. 1037 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 2: They just haven't earned it lately against teams to have 1038 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 2: a spread like this. So I'm gonna take the points, 1039 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 2: but I don't really think it's going to be in doubt. 1040 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: Give me your read on BYU at Texas three thirty ABC. 1041 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,320 Speaker 1: Texas favored by seventeen and a half. 1042 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm taking Texas here, but it's sort of a wing 1043 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 2: and a prayer that Malik Murphy is able to continue 1044 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 2: what Texas has been able to do during the air 1045 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 2: because BYU in through the air. BYU has not been 1046 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,439 Speaker 2: good against the past this year, I think they've given 1047 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: up a bunch of big plays, and so I think 1048 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 2: it's going to be a sound victory for Texas, maybe 1049 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 2: to the point where after the game people say man 1050 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 2: should leak Murphy. This might also be Malik Murphy's audition 1051 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 2: to transfer to a huge place. 1052 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 1: I jotted it down. I jotted it down Florida, Auburn, 1053 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: maybe Oregon, definitely Notre Dame. Cal cal will probably make 1054 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: a call. They won't get it from the West. Collega's 1055 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: from southern California, Leide Angleside, California. Yeah. I think this 1056 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 1: is a tour de force for Milik Murphy. Texas is 1057 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: my lock of the week, Wow, b luck of the 1058 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 1: week because look, Byu' is not scoring on this defense. 1059 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: And I don't like Malik Murphy getting the start is 1060 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,879 Speaker 1: as you said, kind of the early audition. It is 1061 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: his opportunity to go out there and showcase what he's got. 1062 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: He knows that his options will probably be somewhat limited 1063 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 1: this year, so I think he's going to show out 1064 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: and frankly, he is a monster. He is a monster 1065 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: on yours. 1066 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 2: Could also just go pro after this year, and it 1067 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 2: could be Malik Murphy. But you know, Arch Manning is 1068 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 2: sitting there lurking as well. 1069 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,439 Speaker 1: I think Malik Murphy is gone. If he is worth 1070 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: it at all, he's gone. He's going elsewhere because they're 1071 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: going to want to give that to Arch Banning. They're 1072 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: just going to have to. But I'm pretty excited to 1073 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: see what this kid can do. We talked about him 1074 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: in the spring game and he just is a freak 1075 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,439 Speaker 1: a monster six' five. 1076 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: Here, Actually i'm not going to include this as a fantasy. 1077 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 2: Thing wasn't asked to throw it in relief last week 1078 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 2: really Against. 1079 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: Houston now he was one of, two had a short. 1080 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: Completion my fantasy thing That i'm not going to include 1081 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: in the fantasy thing segment at the end Is you're over? 1082 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: Under is the opening, monologue the opening monologue For Dave 1083 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 1: pash And dusty De vorceek to Compare Malik murphy To Vince, Young, 1084 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: okay right, away right out of the, chute because he 1085 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: is just a. 1086 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,919 Speaker 2: Monster do you think IF i set the over under 1087 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 2: at one and a half number of? Times they like 1088 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 2: post the picture during the broadcast of the Quarterback room 1089 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 2: At texas with their shirts. Off, yeah so it was 1090 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 2: Like arch And quin you were Is Malik murphy And 1091 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 2: Malik murphy was a man amongst. Boys, YEAH i think 1092 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 2: they might show it a couple. Times they'll definitely show it. 1093 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,280 Speaker 1: Early we. Agree On, TEXAS i Have Wyoming boyse final 1094 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: game in this squad five THIRTY fs Two boise at, 1095 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 1: home favored by. Five. 1096 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 2: DAN i don't know Why boyse's. Railing give Me wyoming 1097 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 2: here on the. 1098 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: Road, Yeah i'm On. BOISE i Like ashton gent for The, 1099 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: broncos even Though boise is kind of a mess on. 1100 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: Defense they're three and, Four. 1101 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 2: They're one of the worst defenses In, america considering who 1102 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 2: their coach, is considering where they were last. Year, wyoming 1103 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 2: can they can get some bigger? Plays, oh they can 1104 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 2: stop the run well, enough SO i think they're gonna 1105 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 2: be A they're gonna be in a good place against This. 1106 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 2: Boise I'm i'm On boise, here you're On. Wyoming this 1107 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,319 Speaker 2: is one of the lines that you see it and it's, like, 1108 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 2: hmm maybe somebody knows. Something maybe somebody knows. Something by the, 1109 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,399 Speaker 2: WAY i totally misread, It wyoming has not been good 1110 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 2: against the. RUN i still like them to win this. 1111 00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: Game, okay fair, enough all, right thirty seconds give me 1112 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: a rant on the teams that we did not include 1113 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,959 Speaker 1: in this. Quad this is actually this this after noon 1114 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: block that we're. Discussing, yeah the afternoon block is loaded with. 1115 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: Games you don't want to miss this. One there are 1116 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: so many games here we needed two QUADS i think 1117 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 1: to cover. Everything but them's the. Rules what do you? 1118 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 2: GOT i Have auburn Against Mississippi state that obviously has 1119 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 2: been beat up on. OFFENSE i think they cover. 1120 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: THAT i don't know. 1121 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 2: Why miami has earned eighteen points against a Resurgent virginia. 1122 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: Nineteen and a. Half now it's up to nineteen and a. 1123 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,280 Speaker 2: Half i'm taking the who's there both in letdown spots 1124 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 2: After miami's went Against clemson And virginia's Against North. Carolina 1125 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 2: i'm gonna take the points. THERE Nc state's defense has 1126 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 2: been pretty. Good i'm not sure Why clemson is a 1127 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 2: double digit favorite anywhere at this, Point So i'm will 1128 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: WITH Nc state. There Iowa state Against, Baylor I'm i'm 1129 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 2: just gonna Take Iowa. State the best thing In Iowa. State, 1130 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 2: yeah the line, moved by the. Way, Yeah baylor was originally. 1131 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 2: Favored now It's Iowa state minus two and a half 1132 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 2: on the. Road, YEAH i still Like Iowa state here 1133 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 2: to win by four or five. Points Iowa state has 1134 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 2: been one of the surest things against the spread and take, actually, 1135 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 2: no not against the, spread taking the. Under these past few, 1136 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 2: Years Iowa state has performed taking the. UNDER i Like 1137 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 2: Michigan state Against. Minnesota what Has minnesota done to earn 1138 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 2: those seven points they're giving? Them minnesota Is So i'm 1139 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 2: gonna Take Michigan state. HERE i think they can be competitive, 1140 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: enough AND i think too many people are looking at 1141 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 2: The michigan game Where michigan may have just had every 1142 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 2: single Call Michigan state. HAD i Have nebraska minus three Against. 1143 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 2: Purdue picking Against perdue seems to be quite profitable this. 1144 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: Year And nebraska's one four or five or. 1145 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: Something, now yeah they're. 1146 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 2: Winning that's not, pretty but they're winning With, harburg AND 1147 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 2: i Have. Rice i'm gonna take the points here and 1148 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 2: a shootout Against. Tulane give me J. T daniels And luke. 1149 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 2: McCaffrey at, home they are Much they're clearly much better at, 1150 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,919 Speaker 2: home which is also where they Beat. 1151 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: Houston SO i think they win in a. Shootout and 1152 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: our final quad we go all the way back in 1153 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: time to the early. Window dan, yes who are the 1154 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: early doing To, ACTUALLY i want to play this. Sound 1155 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: you have to achieve, failure you have to take it that. 1156 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: FAR i, agree nobody wants. 1157 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: To go that. 1158 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: Far that is from the Quad father's motivational video out on. 1159 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 2: YouTube can we get like a specific training regimen from 1160 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 2: this guy justin AT Usa? POWERLIFTING i can ask him, 1161 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 2: like can we push our? 1162 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: Limits can we push our? 1163 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 2: Limits like do you want the biggest traps in college football? 1164 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: Podcasting? Tie? Well we. Did we did call this squat. 1165 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: Sober it is squat, sober and by the time we 1166 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: get the by the time we get the workout FROM Usa, 1167 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: powerlifting it might have to Be. SQUATVEMBER i don't know 1168 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: if that's got the same ring to. It it'll Be. 1169 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 2: Brovember it's, Okay bro's to lift In. Brovember I'm i'm 1170 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 2: open to. It but, now because it's squat, sober should 1171 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 2: we both be taking gluetaw to Beat? OREGON i, APOLOGIZE 1172 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 2: i am going to. Resign, yeah that was. 1173 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: Terrible here's there's only six games in this in this 1174 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: slot here THAT i. HIGHLIGHTED i guess ten in, total 1175 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: if you want to Count western Versus Eastern michigan Or 1176 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: TULSA smu games like. That but we have a relatively Emissive, 1177 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 1: YEAH i, am it's, fine a relatively limited slate here 1178 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: in the early. Blocks so our, quad our dream quad 1179 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: of early games Is West, VIRGINIA, Ucf South, Carolina TEXAS 1180 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: a AND M, Houston Kansas state In indiana At Penn. 1181 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: STATE i will actually start With indiana At Penn state 1182 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,080 Speaker 1: because you have a pretty strong. 1183 00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 3: Lean. 1184 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 4: Here lock of the, Week Penn, State, wow block of the. 1185 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 4: Week why, Why here's? Why Why Here's Penn state has heard. 1186 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 2: Nothing but they have no, offense they have no, juice 1187 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 2: they have no. Electricity they make bad decisions on, offense 1188 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 2: and they're going to take it all out On. Indiana 1189 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 2: that's What Penn state, Does. Right they lose to teams 1190 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 2: that are similarly talented or a little bit more, talented 1191 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,440 Speaker 2: and then they just beat up on teams right After, 1192 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 2: right they beat up On, maryland they beat up On Michigan, 1193 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 2: state they beat up on all these teams because they 1194 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 2: have so much of an. Advantage they're really good in these. 1195 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 2: Moments they'll win this game thirty seven to. Three, Right 1196 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 2: they'll do something like. THAT i just don't think they 1197 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 2: have that ability against good, teams But indiana has one 1198 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 2: of the worst offenses In. AMERICA i Think Penn state's 1199 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,640 Speaker 2: defense will. Score Penn state might score in all three. 1200 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Phases my final guess here is like forty nine to 1201 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Seven Penn. 1202 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 1: State, YEAH i, JUST i, MEAN i want to see 1203 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: if they can incorporate anything new. Downfield doesn't, matter it doesn't, 1204 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: matter Doesn't, okay it does not. Matter it's A vienna, 1205 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: tie all, Right i'll Take Penn. STATE i am going 1206 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: to TAKE ucf minus seven at home Against West, virginia 1207 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,479 Speaker 1: and UCF's lost four in a, row two of which 1208 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: they easily could have won Against oklahoma last, week certainly 1209 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: the game they yacked away a couple weeks ago Against. 1210 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Baylor BUT i feel good about them. HERE i feel 1211 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,919 Speaker 1: very confident in the over fifty nine because both teams 1212 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 1: have been given up a lot of. POINTS i just 1213 01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 1: think this will be. Entertaining it's less about who WHO 1214 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: i care is going to win or WHO i think 1215 01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: is going to, win and more about just entertainment factor 1216 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: in the Early. Blox so that's why that's in this. Quad, 1217 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: yeah you agree with me ON, Ucf so let's agree 1218 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: with you ON. 1219 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 2: UCF i think If Olli gordon could, run CERTAINLY ucf 1220 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 2: you run Against West. Virginia, continue The South CAROLINA a 1221 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 2: AND m game is, Interesting so NUMBER a AND m 1222 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 2: at home favored by. Fourteen jimbo, says quote most everybody 1223 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 2: we'll be back from injury following. 1224 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 1: The buy in week. Eight so it sounds Like Walter nolan's, 1225 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 1: okay you remember he was carted off a few weeks. 1226 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Ago But Bryce, Anderson Edrian, Cooper Albert, regis all these 1227 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: guys are hopefully coming back to help the. Defense NOW 1228 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: a AND m off that. Buy like the issue For 1229 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: South carolina is The. Lions the lines aren't, good they 1230 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 1: haven't been good all, year and SO i just think 1231 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: there is a decided schematic advantage if you will FOR 1232 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 1: a AND m along the, lines especially their defense Against 1233 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 1: South carolina's. Offense we KNOW a And m's had their 1234 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: own offensive line issues this, season BUT i just don't 1235 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: have a really good reason to pick AGAINST a AND 1236 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: m other than the fact That South carolina can sometimes 1237 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: be a pain in the. Ass So i'm ON a 1238 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 1: AND m minus the number. 1239 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 2: Here, WELL i, mean you recently posted videos SAYING a 1240 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 2: AND m it's time to fire their coach because it 1241 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 2: is so. Bad BUT i don't Think South carolina is. 1242 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 2: GOOD i, agree So i'm going to TAKE a AND 1243 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 2: m here as. WELL i actually THINK a AND m 1244 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 2: is gonna be able to move it on the ground a. 1245 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 2: Lot so the second straight road game For South carolina 1246 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 2: after not doing anything really Against. 1247 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Miszoo so, YEAH i. 1248 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 2: Think a, healthy RESTED a AND m against The South 1249 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,160 Speaker 2: carolina back out on the. ROAD i think it's a 1250 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 2: great opportunity to have a, comfortable like thirty one to 1251 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 2: thirteen win. 1252 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: And the final game in the, Quad i've Got houston 1253 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: plus seventeen and a half over K. State really look 1254 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: ahead spot for K. State they've Got Texas texas on 1255 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: the road next. WEEK i don't Think houston's, good BUT 1256 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: i think they can. THROW i think they can keep 1257 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: this inside the number seventeen and a. Half it's a big. 1258 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 2: NUMBER i Think Kansas state big my Guy Avarry johnson 1259 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 2: is going to go off so Okayeah houston in a 1260 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 2: letdown spot after having that moment to take Down texas 1261 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 2: and failing in like a double letdown. Spot the big 1262 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 2: win two weeks ago on The Hail mary Against West. 1263 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 2: VIRGINIA i Like Kansas state, here especially on the ground 1264 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Against houston fourteen and a half seconds to go through 1265 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 2: any games we. 1266 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: MISSED i like Wake forest at home Against Florida. 1267 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 2: State how about that? Outright, no, no, no not? Outright 1268 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 2: tools by a couple of. Touchdowns so the spread is 1269 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 2: like twenty. Points, YEAH i think a good defense at. 1270 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 2: HOME i think they can ugly this. Up they beat 1271 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 2: them last. Year they can kick a bunch of field. 1272 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Goals they're very good in the red zone to turn 1273 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 2: sevens into. Threes give me Wake forest to cover this 1274 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 2: game at, home another kind of home dog for. ME 1275 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 2: i Like maryland big Against, northwestern AND i think that's 1276 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 2: sort of it in that. Window, okay, okay. 1277 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: There's a course a late night game that we didn't call, 1278 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,560 Speaker 1: out THE Unlv fresno, game which will be. Fun didn't 1279 01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 1: MAKE unlv just sheep's. Winning. Yeah UNLV's having a good 1280 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: year so far this, SEEDON i, think, though are those 1281 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:03,280 Speaker 1: all the games we? 1282 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 2: Have, yeah EXCEPT i have a very specific request for some, big, stanky, 1283 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 2: dripping heaving drum and five. 1284 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Twelve THIRTY espn plus this is a big. One it's. 1285 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Large the yetni's Of. Lafayette The LEPs go in a 1286 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 1: multi sport field square off Against georgetown laps six and, 1287 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: One georgetown four and. Four who you, Got who you? 1288 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 3: Got who you? 1289 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Got, well this is technically taking out two quadrants in 1290 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 2: my early quad, box both for the standard broadcast and 1291 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 2: for The pat McAfee sideline version of. 1292 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: This sat McAfee work in The georgetown. 1293 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 2: Game pat, McAfee and they're bringing Back adam a meme 1294 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 2: just for this. 1295 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Game, uh they're going to be on the sideline for this. 1296 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 2: ONE i think it's It's pat. McAfee it's, uh It's Chris. 1297 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 2: FAWLLER i think is heading to call this one like 1298 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 2: it's a whole. 1299 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 1: Big a j hawkwell mime Alongside pat. 1300 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 2: McAfee i Have lafayette bick even though it's at multi sport. 1301 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Field give me The LEPs one, o'clock, now two and, 1302 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: Five colgate three and, Four give me The gators. Here 1303 01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: it's tough, there, man it's tough In, Hamilton New. YORK 1304 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: i never picked The Nellies Network, GATORS i. Know and, 1305 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 1: finally one PM espn plus Holy cross at four and 1306 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:21,959 Speaker 1: three on the road At. Fordham fordham is a voluptuous 1307 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: five and, two voluptuous five and. Two i'm Taking fordham 1308 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 1: here in The boogie Down. 1309 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 2: BRONX ti when Does fordham Play lafayette Because lafayette's only 1310 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 2: losses To duke, RIGHT. 1311 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,479 Speaker 1: I THINK i Think lafayette already beat, him didn't? They? 1312 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Oh is that one of the. 1313 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 2: Losses there's a little bit of an acc complex here 1314 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 2: with The. Patriotley we Have november, Eleventh november eleven thirty 1315 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 2: Am fordam At. 1316 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 1: Lafayette SHOULD i? Go? Yes, absolutely you should. Go if 1317 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: there's no big window that, week. 1318 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 2: It's eleven Thirty. Central, yeah it's twelve. Thirty i'll go, 1319 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 2: Time i'll. 1320 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Go all, right we got to close things out with 1321 01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 1: two important bits of. Info, yeah our Friend TIM buckleyo 1322 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: sends us the. Weather the weather's at the end of every, broadcast, 1323 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: right so it's only fear that we would do it here. 1324 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 3: Week nine and feeling fine if you're in the, film 1325 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 3: that is acc sec great weather for we have seventies and. 1326 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 3: Eighties good news For, Georgia. Florida it'll even be nice In. Pennsylvania. Folks, 1327 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 3: hey several Season, saturday that's, right it's winter like with 1328 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 3: snow for The Montana Gridds we also have thirties In, 1329 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 3: minnesota maybe some sweet In lincoln For, nebraska And, dan 1330 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 3: your ducks might even be shivering their. Feathers forties In 1331 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,200 Speaker 3: Salt lake for. Kickoff great news on The west. Coast 1332 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 3: you're Feeling. Springlake there's a little bit of everything for 1333 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,040 Speaker 3: everybody across the college football world this. 1334 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Week so Got Tim. Buckley thank you for the report 1335 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: where we may. Be hopefully you're not in a region of. 1336 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Concern have a good week. Nine we got one more 1337 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: thing left to. Do hi versus the world j good 1338 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:03,919 Speaker 1: guys versus the world presented By Draft. Kings, folks they're 1339 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 1: still let me give out. Picks. Dan that's because you're 1340 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: so charming and. WONDERFUL i, AM i, AM i am, 1341 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:15,320 Speaker 1: CHARMING i am, wonderful just not making the. Picks, okay 1342 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,919 Speaker 1: three saucy, bets one themed. Parlay you ready to? Go i'm. 1343 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 1: Ready texas minus. Seventeen you know WHERE i stand on. 1344 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 1: It we actually agree on. 1345 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 3: That. 1346 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 1: ARIZONA i Like arizona. Outright i'm going to come back 1347 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: to that in a, second but Take arizona plus the. 1348 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,240 Speaker 1: NUMBER i also Like Penn. State i'll agree with. You 1349 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Penn state minus, whatever Against. Indiana situationally doesn't really. Matter 1350 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: Penn state will take care of business. There my themed 1351 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 1: parlay is a three selection parlay at about four to. 1352 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: One got to hit all three of, these. Okay first 1353 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:53,040 Speaker 1: is The arizona money line Over Oregon. State arizona, outright. 1354 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Okay the second Is arizona scoring more than twenty six 1355 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: and a half team. Points if they're Beating Oregon, state 1356 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 1: you're probably scoring more than twenty six and a half. Points, 1357 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: agreed Agreat. Agree and the third and final leg of 1358 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,400 Speaker 1: this is that the second half will be the highest 1359 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 1: scoring of the two. Halves so one of those pack 1360 01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: twelve after dark games that we're doing the stream and 1361 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: suddenly it goes freakin' hay wire in the second. Half 1362 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,720 Speaker 1: that's the kind of game this. Is we've seen it 1363 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,839 Speaker 1: happen time and. Again second, half highest scoring, half combine 1364 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: it together about four to. One i'm calling It Caturday Night, Live, 1365 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: DAN i like. It Caturday Night. Live that is my bet, Again, Texas, 1366 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Arizona Penn. State and then The Caday Caturday Night live. Parlay. 1367 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 2: Yeah my only guarantee is sort of like a fantasy. 1368 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 2: THING i guarantee there is going to be Weird Jim 1369 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 2: harbaugh signs and. Costumes Oh, man This, Saturday it's gonna be. 1370 01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 2: Great Oh, man looks out so. 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