WEBVTT - The Truth with Lisa Boothe: The Genius. Senator John Kennedy

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<v Speaker 1>So I am so excited for this guest. He is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely hilarious and brilliant as well. You might know him

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<v Speaker 1>for some of his funny quips, like this from a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two campaign ad.

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<v Speaker 2>If you hate cops just because of the cops, the

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<v Speaker 2>next time you get in trouble, caw crackhead.

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<v Speaker 1>See you heard the man. The next time you get

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble, call crackhead if you hate cops. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>also known for eviscerating Joe Biden's judicial nominees and witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>who come before him.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me what Article five of the Constitution does.

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<v Speaker 3>Article five is not coming to mind at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how about Article two?

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<v Speaker 3>Neither is Article two missile?

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<v Speaker 2>What is collateral estoppele?

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<v Speaker 3>Collateral estoppel? I certainly do know collateral estoppable. I'm finding

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<v Speaker 3>that the bright lights of the moment are for me

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<v Speaker 3>to recall it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you don't recall it, okay. And the man

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<v Speaker 2>on the bench he's going to decide my case, tells

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<v Speaker 2>me to stand up and announce my pronoun that's not voluntary,

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<v Speaker 2>that's oppressive. And that alone. Forget his writings which Senator

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<v Speaker 2>from Cruise went through very eloquently. That alone tells me

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<v Speaker 2>that he cannot exercise power maturely. If I could vote

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<v Speaker 2>no twice, I would, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the man is so hilarious, people forget how brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>he is. The guy graduated in magna cum laude from

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<v Speaker 1>Vanderbilt University. He got his law degree from the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Virginia, where he was an executive editor of the

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Law Review and also elected to the Order of

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<v Speaker 1>the KOI if which I'm told his very prestigious. He

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<v Speaker 1>got his Bachelor of Civil Law degree with first honors

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<v Speaker 1>from Oxford Universe. He's written and published several books and

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<v Speaker 1>articles on constitutional law, the Louisiana Products Liability Act, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Power Commission. But because he grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>a small town, he has his finger on the pulse

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<v Speaker 1>of the electorate. He seems to really have an understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of what we all care about, of what Louisiana's care about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what makes him so interesting. To

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<v Speaker 1>have all of these combine, sitting in the Senate, viscerating

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<v Speaker 1>judicial nominees, bringing common sense to the Senate and the country,

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<v Speaker 1>all while having a sense of humor. So I am

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to interview him about the state of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>his sense of humor, and where this is all going.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana. Well, Senator Kennedy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so great to have you on the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to meet you recently and I was like, please,

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<v Speaker 1>please please come my MOP podcast. So I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>making the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you're a funny guy in a town that

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<v Speaker 1>really lacks a sense of humor. You know, in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like as a country we've lost or sense

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<v Speaker 1>of humor. You know, you're famous for equips like a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two campaign ad, Look if you hate cops

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<v Speaker 1>just because they're cops, the next time you're in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>called crackhead. You've joked about Joe Biden that voters don't

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<v Speaker 1>trust him to open a can of prinkles. About the

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<v Speaker 1>one point three trillion dollars stimulus bill, you said, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a great Dane size whiz down the leg of

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<v Speaker 1>every tagspair. How do you come up with this stuff? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your creative process?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's there's not really a process. So what before

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interviewed my my, My good team, my communications team

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<v Speaker 2>knows they give me all kinds of facts and figures,

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<v Speaker 2>do a great job with that, but they know to

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<v Speaker 2>leave me alone for about five minutes for the interview

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<v Speaker 2>so I can sort of think what I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>because usually the interviews, as you know, are very short

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<v Speaker 2>period of time, and you don't want to waste people's time.

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<v Speaker 2>And the American people don't read their Startled every day

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<v Speaker 2>because they're too busy earning of living. So when they

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<v Speaker 2>do see on TV, they want you to make your points.

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<v Speaker 2>I have always admired a clever turn of phrase and

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<v Speaker 2>people who can write. I can write, but it's painful,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know. The good Lord just gave me

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<v Speaker 2>a brain that causes me to remember the way people

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<v Speaker 2>cleverly put things sometimes, and some of it just comes

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<v Speaker 2>to me from my upbringing. I was raised in a

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<v Speaker 2>very small, blue collar town in the South, in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, you know what a small town is.

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<v Speaker 2>A small town is where where everybody knows whose check

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<v Speaker 2>is good and whose spouse isn't. And that was the

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<v Speaker 2>way that that was the way I was raised, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know. Also I can't think of a

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<v Speaker 2>better way to put this. I've always believed you ought

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<v Speaker 2>to always be yourself now unless you suck. If you suck,

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<v Speaker 2>you ought to try to be something else, but always

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<v Speaker 2>try to be yourself. And that's what I do. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it works, sometimes it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it works more than not. You know, C

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<v Speaker 1>do you think have we lost our sense of humor

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<v Speaker 1>as a country.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit? There are things that we can't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about anymore with or without humor. I really regret that

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<v Speaker 2>we can't talk more about, for example, race in America.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've made a lot of progress in our

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<v Speaker 2>country in one hundred and fifty years. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we America caught, like every other civilization, caught the disease

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<v Speaker 2>of slavery, but we beat it back, and since then

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<v Speaker 2>we passed I don't know a dozen civil rights laws.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean that there aren't racists in our country,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think most people in America today think more

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<v Speaker 2>about about character than color. I think most people understand

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<v Speaker 2>that that to to to a bear, we all taste

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<v Speaker 2>like chicken. But you can't talk about race anymore, and

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to be not that you want to use

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<v Speaker 2>humor necessarily talking about race. But when you do use humor,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to think about it ahead of time because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to you know, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>offend anybody and lose the point of your message. But

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of I mean, the the moon owing. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me back up. I don't hate anybody. I really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say my prayers. One of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>asked God for. Don't want me hate because it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington, DC, because the deck stacked against you if

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<v Speaker 2>you're conservative. But I don't hate anybody, and I try

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<v Speaker 2>to get along with everybody. But I do say what's

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<v Speaker 2>on my mind, and some people like that, some don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are a lot of just professional victims out

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<v Speaker 2>there in America today who hyperventilate on their yoga mats

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<v Speaker 2>if you say something they don't like. I try to

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<v Speaker 2>ignore them. In fact, I try not to worry too

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<v Speaker 2>much about what anybody thinks about me except dogs. I

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<v Speaker 2>really like dogs. I care what dogs think about me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just let it rip.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's what I've heard. I've heard you're a

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<v Speaker 1>big dog lover. You know, there is that saying if

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<v Speaker 1>you want a friend in Washington and get a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that why as you talk about sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty in Washington, d C. And sort of the hostility there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, here's the problem in Washington. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>democratic town. Ninety percent of the people in Washington, or

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<v Speaker 2>or corporate phonies or entrenched politicians or academics or members

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<v Speaker 2>of the news media, most of them are Democrats. I

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<v Speaker 2>would have to say today that most of them are.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're they're deeply weird, They're nauserously woke. They they

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<v Speaker 2>hate George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Zeus and mister Patata. They they want to seriously

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<v Speaker 2>debate whether a man can breast steed. They think they're

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<v Speaker 2>smarter and more virtuous than most Americans. And that's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the reasons people hate Washington and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>reasons our country is is divided. My experience in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>and again, I don't hate anybody, I do not. I

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<v Speaker 2>would for grace wherever I can find it. But common

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<v Speaker 2>sense in Washington, DC is illegal. And when I when

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<v Speaker 2>I feel inadequate in Washington, which I many times do,

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<v Speaker 2>I console myself by just looking around, going well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I may feel inadequate, but I don't understand how some

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<v Speaker 2>of these people made it through the birth cannot and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the things they come up with. But again

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<v Speaker 2>I try. I don't hate anybody, I really don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to take a quick commercial break. Stay right

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<v Speaker 1>there for more of citer John Kennedy, you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how common sense is illegal in Washington, d c. But

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<v Speaker 1>it really seems that way, you know, throughout the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, how did we get to this point where

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<v Speaker 1>common sense is illegal? Why? While you know, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we get to this point while we have so many

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<v Speaker 1>Americans who seem to lack common sense or or ignore it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me say firsts, that's a great question. Congress

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<v Speaker 2>is divided because America is divided. Some have argued that

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<v Speaker 2>while President Trump divided, mayor I think I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think the country was was divided before President Trump. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's why President Trump was in part elected.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I noticed two things about President Trump when

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<v Speaker 2>he ran in twenty sixteen. And you may like him,

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<v Speaker 2>you may dislike him, but this, to me, what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about to say, I think, at least for me, is

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<v Speaker 2>an objective fact. Though he is a wealthy man. President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>he never talks down to people. He really doesn't. He

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<v Speaker 2>also in some again you may think this is good

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<v Speaker 2>or bad, but he's authentic in the sense. In this

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<v Speaker 2>sense he says exactly what he thinks, and people find

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<v Speaker 2>that refreshing. Now a lot of my Democratic colleagues, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he broke it all. He angered a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>People were angry ahead of time before he took office,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they're even angrier today. Nobody I know

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<v Speaker 2>is better off to day than they were four years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>With the possible exception of the illegal immorals, they're clearly

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<v Speaker 2>better off. President Biden has been, in my judgment, breathtaking

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<v Speaker 2>me awful. And he's mismanaged Congress. He's mismanaged COVID, he's

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<v Speaker 2>mismanaged the border. He's mismanagedcrime. He's mismanaged economy. He's mismanaged inflation.

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<v Speaker 2>He mismanaged Afghanistan. I could go down the list, and

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<v Speaker 2>all of this directly impacts the American people. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>just inflation alone. You didn't have to be you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be mins material to understand that when you

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<v Speaker 2>spend the extraordinary amounts of money that President Biden has

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<v Speaker 2>spent and create all this demand without changing the supply,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to have inflation and it's not getting any better. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the inflation rate is coming down, but what does that mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That means prices are not rising as rapidly as they

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<v Speaker 2>once were. That doesn't mean that prices, these high prices

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<v Speaker 2>are going to fall. They're just going up less quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>And the American people viscerally instinctively know that they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have time to sit down and look up

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<v Speaker 2>the definition of deflation versus distintlation. But they know that

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<v Speaker 2>even though inflation is coming down, prices are still high

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<v Speaker 2>and they have to seriously think about selling blood plasma

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<v Speaker 2>before they go to the groctree store. And that angers people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't blame it. And that's just one example.

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<v Speaker 2>The border. This has become a cliched expression, but cliches

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<v Speaker 2>become cliches because they're true. Every community is a border

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<v Speaker 2>state now presently.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think he's allowing it though? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Center for Immigration Studies recently found that the

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<v Speaker 1>foreign born population in the United States is now at

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<v Speaker 1>a high of fifty one point four million, accounts for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen point five percent. This has increased dramatically under Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why is he allowing this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course I don't know for sure, but I

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<v Speaker 2>will give you my best guess. I think the people

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<v Speaker 2>who are advising President Biden believe in open borders. They

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<v Speaker 2>won't say, but they clearly have to judge people by

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<v Speaker 2>what they do, not what they say. They couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 2>in open boarders, and it's worked. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 2>added I don't know nine million people that's for Nebraska's

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<v Speaker 2>under President Biden. We don't have the slightest idea of

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<v Speaker 2>who they are. We don't even know where they are

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<v Speaker 2>in our country. We just know that they are here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think his advisors talked him into doing that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying he's not responsible because he's the boss, but

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<v Speaker 2>he went along with it. I think he depended upon

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<v Speaker 2>the media to cover for him and for buying large

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<v Speaker 2>the main street media did. But as an issue, it

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<v Speaker 2>has broken clearly broken through, and now the president doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do about it. Now. He could solve

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<v Speaker 2>seventy percent of it by just going back and doing

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<v Speaker 2>things that were in place the day before he took over.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, seventy percent of the people coming into our

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<v Speaker 2>country through Asyblum claims or otherwise are not from Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he implemented a say third country program, which

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk about if you want to, that would

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<v Speaker 2>eliminate about seventy percent of the folks right there. But

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<v Speaker 2>he stared to do it because the Moon wing of

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party has taken over the Democratic Party and

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden believes that he has to have their votes

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<v Speaker 2>to be relect That's what I think is going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and of course you know it impacts the apportionment

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<v Speaker 1>of House seeds and electional though some of us political Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean because you had Youvet Clerk, a congressman from

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<v Speaker 1>New York, who said that her district can absorb a

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<v Speaker 1>significant number of these migrants, adding that I need more

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<v Speaker 1>people in a district just for redistricting purpose. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think as many Americans, you know, know that these

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<v Speaker 1>non citizens, these legal immigrants are being included in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and that's I'm not saying that's the motivation of

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<v Speaker 2>all people who believe in open borders, but you would

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<v Speaker 2>be naive if you didn't believe it was the motivation

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<v Speaker 2>of some When a state the number of state House

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<v Speaker 2>members that a state has is determined by the number

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<v Speaker 2>of people. So if you add more people, you add

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<v Speaker 2>more House members. Uh. And that's what's been going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's some motivation not of everyone, but of many people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've got to get you with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, your your background in constitutional law and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being a having your law degree and this

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<v Speaker 1>being an area, and also just you stumping. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>so many judicial nominees that have come before you, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as just witnesses in general. You know, you tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>last year that federal judges would know the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>a law book and an E. LO Bean catalog. But

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden keeps nominating people who can't answer basic legal questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what if it tell you about the judicial

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<v Speaker 1>nominees or the caliber of the judicial nominees that Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden has selected, and having a lot of these people

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<v Speaker 1>previously come before you, what can you tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>the caliber and what does that mean for the future

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<v Speaker 1>of the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it tells me that President Biden's picks are primarily

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<v Speaker 2>activists first and a judge's lawyer second. That's not the

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<v Speaker 2>way our constitution is supposed to be set up. A

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<v Speaker 2>judge is supposed to be a neutral arbiter. A judge

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<v Speaker 2>is not supposed to be a politician in robes. The

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court is not supposed to be a mini congress.

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<v Speaker 2>It's supposed to be a neutral arbiter that calls balls

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<v Speaker 2>and strikes. Now, when President Biden has nominated good people,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm voting for it. But a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that he has nominated, they don't know. They don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the law, at least they I mean, I don't ask

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<v Speaker 2>esoteric questions. I taught law school for fifteen years. The

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<v Speaker 2>kind of questions I ask were the kind of questions

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<v Speaker 2>I would ask my students if the subject came up

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<v Speaker 2>in class. This is not some game to play, got you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what these people want to be judges. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be there unelected, they will be there

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<v Speaker 2>for life. They will have the full power of the

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<v Speaker 2>federal United States federal government behind them, and they they

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<v Speaker 2>have an obligation, a moral analytical labligation to be neutral arbiters.

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<v Speaker 2>If if I don't want a nominee whose whose goal

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<v Speaker 2>in life on the bench is to try to rewrite

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<v Speaker 2>the Constitution, every other Thursday to try to advance some

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<v Speaker 2>social or economic agenda that that ought to be in

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<v Speaker 2>front of Congress if it's going to be implemented. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the way many of these activists approach it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you say, well, why don't you go to the Congress,

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<v Speaker 2>to your legislature Because they know that they're half baked

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<v Speaker 2>ideas aren't going to pass, so they try to do

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<v Speaker 2>it through the courts. That's not the role of the

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<v Speaker 2>federal judiciary in America, or the state judiciary for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>But President Biden has I would say seven to eight

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<v Speaker 2>out of ten of his nominees have been activists first

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<v Speaker 2>and lawyer's second. And you've got to know them law

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<v Speaker 2>to be a judge. And just because you've seen my

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<v Speaker 2>cousin Denny, doesn't mean you're qualified to be a federal judge.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to know the basic tenants of them all.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what I want. That's my job

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<v Speaker 2>is to see if they know.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got to take a quick commercial break more with

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<v Speaker 1>Cedator John Kennedy. But there are obviously a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>problems facing our country right now. I guess what worries

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<v Speaker 1>you the most, like what keeps you up at night.

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<v Speaker 2>I worry about our institutions. I mean, I worry about

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of things, and I think moms and I

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<v Speaker 2>try to focus my energy on the things that moms

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<v Speaker 2>and dads worry about at night when they lie down

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep and can But I mean, I could talk

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<v Speaker 2>about inflation in the border and educating your children, but

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<v Speaker 2>in a thirty five thousand foot view from that point

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<v Speaker 2>of view. To answer your question, I worry about our institutions.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the courts. Many, not all, but many of

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<v Speaker 2>my Democratic colleagues, if they had their druthers, they would

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<v Speaker 2>just pack the Supreme Court because they don't like the

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<v Speaker 2>way the Supreme Court votes. I don't like the way

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court votes sometimes, and that goes back fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>But I read their opinions and I try to understand

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<v Speaker 2>how they're deciding the case based on legal principles, not

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<v Speaker 2>based on some political preference. I worry about the institution

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<v Speaker 2>of Congress. We haven't gotten this bad in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't like it in the House. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of friends in the House, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like it in the House when instead of legislating,

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<v Speaker 2>people are calling each other an ignorant slut and throwing

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<v Speaker 2>people off committees and censoring everybody and seeing who can

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<v Speaker 2>get the most cliques. Now that's not all House members,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's some House members. I don't think that's productive.

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<v Speaker 2>I worry about the institution of the presidency when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a president of the United States who on a

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<v Speaker 2>Monday lectures the American people about democracy and then on

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<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday ignores, just ignores laws passed by the United

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<v Speaker 2>States Congress, for example, the border laws. So we just

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the Supreme Court already struck down President Biden's

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<v Speaker 2>plan to forgive a student debt. They're coming back with

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<v Speaker 2>another plan. They're taking a second run at it. We

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<v Speaker 2>already had a plan for student debt. It was called

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<v Speaker 2>a job and the Supreme Court has said, mister President,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do this. Wellther he's going to try it again.

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<v Speaker 2>That that impacts the institution of the executive branch, and

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<v Speaker 2>it worries me. I think our institutions will hold. But

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<v Speaker 2>but but let me put it another way. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean to talk so long, but right now, and I

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<v Speaker 2>find this very ironic. One of the few institutions left

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<v Speaker 2>in our country that people have respect for is the military. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm delighted that that is the case, but I can

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<v Speaker 2>remember a time during the Vietnam era when when that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the case. But when you pull it and say,

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<v Speaker 2>we know, what do you think about the Supreme Court,

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<v Speaker 2>it just bothers me that people don't respect it as

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<v Speaker 2>an institution.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think some of these institutions have does some degree.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've been lying to a lot by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>by the people in charge, particularly during COVID, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's just a real lack of trust and

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<v Speaker 1>faith in our institutions, and some of that's warranted.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, look, I don't blame people. Doctor Fauci and

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<v Speaker 2>many of his colleagues did more to set back public

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<v Speaker 2>health than anybody in all of human history. I mean, now,

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<v Speaker 2>if a directive comes from the public health community, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have people on both sides that you should go.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if this is about science or if this

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<v Speaker 2>is about politics. Uh. That's that's the institution of public

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<v Speaker 2>health has been undermined, uh dramatically. And that's just that's

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<v Speaker 2>just one example.

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<v Speaker 1>Sid Mary Kennedy, I want to be respectful of your schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>I could talk to you forever. I really love to

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<v Speaker 1>have you come back on the show. You're just such

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<v Speaker 1>a smirky and I love your sense of humor. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that, especially with all the craziness going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the country, in the world, I think levity is needed.

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<v Speaker 1>So I appreciate your sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do to get through this. I mean, look, the

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<v Speaker 2>United States of America is the greatest country in all

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<v Speaker 2>of human history. And our institutions will hold. They will

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<v Speaker 2>and and and the fever that we have will eventually break.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is is in my lifetime. Uh this I

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<v Speaker 2>can't I can't think of a time in our country

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<v Speaker 2>when we faced greater danger, not just domestically but internationally

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And it scares me. We'll be okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to take it sers.

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<v Speaker 1>It scares me too, which is why you know we

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<v Speaker 1>have these conversations on the podcast to try to address

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<v Speaker 1>it and also bring people on like you. Who are

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to make a difference in the Senate. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Kennedy, it's an honor. I really appreciate you making

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, tell all your listeners my last piece of advice,

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<v Speaker 2>go vote, Go vote, go vote. If if dead, people

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<v Speaker 2>can do it, so can you make your voice heard?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly said people can do it, you can too.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna thank you so much. Senator You're awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Senator John Kennedy. Hilarious, brilliant. Really appreciate him

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<v Speaker 1>making the time. It was such an honor. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you guys at home for listening every Monday

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<v Speaker 1>and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to think John Cassi or my producer for putting

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<v Speaker 1>the show together until next time.