1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: I'm strong and Jack Katy and he Armstrong and Yatty. 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 3: Took eighteen years. By the way, it was a huge 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: story back in two thousand and six when Crystal Mangum 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: falsely accused three Duke Lacrosse players of raping her while 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: she was performing as a stripper at a teen party 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: in March of that year. And now, like I said, 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 3: more than eighteen years later, she is finally admitting that 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: she lied about it all along, saying this quote. I 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: testified falsely against them by saying that they raped me 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: when they didn't, and that was wrong, and I betrayed 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: the trust of a lot of other people who believed 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: in me. I made up a story that wasn't true 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: because I wanted validation from people and not from gone. 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 4: All right, you're a crazy person, and you sure put 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: the Duke Lacrosse players threw some hell there for about 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: a year. 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: It took about a year to clear this up. 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you got religion, but what you did 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: was truly evil. 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: So it was back in two thousand and six. We 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 4: were doing the same job in the same room for 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 4: the same company. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: Quite dead end. Nothing in our lives change. 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: It's two thousand and six and we were talking about 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: this and one of the reasons it took off the 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 4: way it did. 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: There a number of reasons. 30 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: Actually, she got this young black woman claiming she was 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 4: raped by some entitled, rich white kids at Duke. I mean, 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: it fits a vision a lot of us have in 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: our heads of. 34 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: A possibility. 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Well, and it's the sort of narrative that the media 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: obviously can get wildly excited about, right. 37 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 4: It happened in the spring of two thousand and six. 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 4: It didn't get cleared up until the spring of two 40 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: thousand and seven, but the media went crazy on just 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: running with the narrative just as I laid it out, 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: and really nothing else for a very long time, in 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 4: spite of all evidence. And the most disappointing thing, of course, 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 4: is that the local prosecutor there in Durham, North Carolina 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: did exactly the same thing and as a crazy person, 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 4: and he ended up resigning and even spent a little 47 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: time in jail, ignoring facts, making up facts, just all kinds. 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it was I. 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: Hate the term perfect storm because it's right. But it 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: was a perfect storm of bad intentions coming together. I mean, 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: you had the wrong kind of person as a prosecutor, 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: the wrong media environment, the wrong person in this stripper 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: girl who showed up to the party not only drunk 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: but on tranquilizers to strip for these guys at their 55 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 4: lacrosse party that they were celebrating because they were told 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 4: they had to stay on campus during spring break, and 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: we're mad about it. So they threw a big party 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 4: and hired some strippers to come over in an escort service. 59 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 4: And the party was wild and crazy and boos and 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: drugs are flowing around. But they did not rape this 61 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: girl ultimately, by the way, and I had forgotten this 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 4: if I ever knew it. 63 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: They each got twenty million dollars. 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: From the university, that's right, because of the university's complicity 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: and ruining their lives and drug drum drumming them out 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: of not only lacrosse, but their academic status and all 67 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: decent society. 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: That's right, the administrators. 69 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: And now it's funny looking back at how woke and 70 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: sick our universities are. The early signs of it. Well, 71 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: this was a great example of one of the early 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: signs of it, that whoa, whoa, whoa. Why is the 73 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: university rushing to judgment in such a way on such 74 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: a flimsy allegation. Well, now we know they were desperate 75 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: to get going the Black Lives Matter, post modern neo 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Marxist thing that they're now in full bloom do it. 77 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: That's why I think in retrospect it was a turning point, 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 4: inflection point of a bunch of different things that have 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: come to dominate society, with wokeness and activist journalism and 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: hating non white men no matter what despite the facts, 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: and just lots of stuff that apparently, like you said, 82 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: was burbling there in the elite universities and college towns 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: and was really going to rear its head years later, 84 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 4: as we all know, highly troubling. Let's hear from is 85 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: her real name, Crystal Magnum? Is that her real name? 86 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: I think Mangum, okay Mangum. Anyway, she does an interview 87 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: for the first time. Let's hear a little bit of that. 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 5: Regrets. I don't have any regrets. Everything happens to get 89 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 5: everybody to the point where they are, and it's off 90 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 5: to show Goslo and his forgiveness, race and his mercy. 91 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, all right. I think she's just really, really stupid. Yeah, 92 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: I think that's the problem. 93 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: She was drunk on tranquilizers and she's dumb as a 94 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: box of hair. 95 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 96 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: The pro had to be clear to some extent very quickly. Investigators, Yes, 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: the prosecutor, the university. 98 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 99 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: If you add, if you didn't have a head of 100 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: steam for we got rich white boys being accused by 101 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 4: a downtrodden black woman of rape, this is a great 102 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: story for us. If you weren't so enthused by that, 103 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: I think you would have talked to her, found out 104 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 4: she was stupid. The facts that she laid out never 105 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 4: lined up ever, and you would have been more skeptical 106 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 4: of this whether and we haven't mentioned rolling Stone. Rolling 107 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 4: Stone went huge on this story, which is really what 108 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: brought it to everybody's attention. 109 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: This is just horrifying all the way around. 110 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 4: Let's hear a little more of the next slip there, 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 4: Michael from the Fox Report. 112 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: The forty six year old also apologized to the three 113 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 3: Duke players, who later sued the university after their charges 114 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: were dropped at or dismissed in two thousand and seven. 115 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: They each received a twenty million dollar settlement from the 116 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: school and the prosecutor on the case, Mike Knifon, was 117 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 3: later disbarred for lying in court and withholding DNA evidence, 118 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: which ultimately absolved the young men. At the time, Mangum 119 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: was not prosecuted for perjury due to questions about her 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: mental health. But like you said, she is currently behind 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: bars serving time after a jury convicted her of second 122 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: degree murder in the stabbing death of her boyfriend in 123 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen. And even though Mangum now admits she is lying, 124 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 3: she can't face perjury charges anymore due to the statue 125 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: of limitation. 126 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, by the way, so now she's in jail 127 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: now for a crime she committed. After the rape, she 128 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 4: claimed that never happened. She had tried to run over 129 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: a cop once in her life. 130 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: Before you has happened. 131 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: You'd have thought there'd have been at least some effort 132 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: to really make sure she was telling the truth with 133 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 4: her sketchy background, before you ruin some innocent people's lives. 134 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: Right. 135 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying this looks so familiar in retrospect, 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: because if you, you know, you do what we do 137 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: for a living. You take an astonishing, mind boggling and 138 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: numbing amounts of news and the pattern of all, right, 139 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: here is somebody downtrodden, usually of color, but not always. 140 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they're a transgender or gay or whatever. Something bad 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: happens to them. Then the usual suspects, the forces we're 142 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: talking about, including universities and media, build this narrative that 143 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: the powers that be evilly attack this person and we 144 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: all must rebel against it. And it usually fails because 145 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: the person tried to take the CoP's gun, or they're 146 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: a five time felon, or in this case, they were 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: a drugged up, murderous dope. But they try to build 148 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: that narrative. And that's why when George Floyd came along 149 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: and everybody watched that video and was so horrified by it, 150 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: they all that machinery was ready to build a narrative. 151 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: Stoke up the anger, get to the streets, burn it 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: all down, throw the whitey out of power and the 153 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: powers that bah blah blah blah. But the neo Marxists 154 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 1: have been rehearsing this over and over and over again, 155 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: and they just wait for a hot one a good one. 156 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: Well has been has been said a thousand times. The 157 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: problem with this way of going about things, those of 158 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 4: you on I don't know if it's fair to call 159 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: the left, the activist world or whatever. 160 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: You do more harm than good when. 161 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: You get caught, because the next time an actual rape 162 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: victim comes forward with similar structural evidence, you know, downtrodden, rich, black, white, whatever, 163 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: they're not believed, right, So that's the harm you do. 164 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: That's so reading this description of the whole thing. Investigation 165 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 4: and resolution of the case sparked public discussion of racism, 166 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: sexual violence, media bias, and due process on campuses, as 167 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: you said, all of those things that would grow to 168 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: be huge issues in the coming years and still are 169 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: right now. The former lead prosecutor, as you heard there, 170 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 4: Mike Nifong, ultimately resigned. He actually hid DNA evidence that 171 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,479 Speaker 4: would have cleared these guys because he was so excited 172 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: about the narrative of a poor black. 173 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: Woman being raped by rich white guys. 174 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean that makes you insane or an activist. I 175 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: don't know that much, or I don't remember that much 176 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: about the guy. It could be he was one of 177 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: those early activist plans. I'll bet he has a history 178 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: of writing about social justice and oh yeah, yeah, all 179 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: that crap. 180 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a gascone. He was just the first 181 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 4: one of those that we became aware of. The Attorney 182 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 4: General of North Carolina, Roy Cooper, and he was attorney 183 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 4: general at the time, dropped all charges, declaring the three 184 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 4: lacrosse players innocent and victims of a tragic rush to accuse. 185 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: And then, of course, as we have said, a knifong, the. 186 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 4: Guy prosecuting thing was disbarred and spent a little time 187 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: in jail. I mean, god, he should be in jail 188 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: forever for that. Not only do the damage he did 189 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 4: to those lacrosse players who were innocent, though they ended 190 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: up with twenty million dollars each, which will smooth over 191 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 4: a lot of problems, but the damage it did to 192 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: the country, Oh my god, horrifying. Yeah. 193 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm scrolling through this guy's Wikipedia page. Although Wikipedia is 194 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: so captured by the left at this point, it's a 195 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: fraction of the resource that it used to be. Just 196 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: wondering if there are some early telltale signs that he 197 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: was one of these activists das well. Anyway, we all 198 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: recognize the type now, and that's the important part. 199 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was one of. 200 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: The earliest flowers to bloom in this movement towards radical leftists, 201 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: colleges and prosecuted. 202 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: Well, it's got the early inklings of activist journalism, activist das, 203 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 4: the me too movement going too far. All white men 204 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: are evil, just so many of the things that we're 205 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: dealing with. Now we're there, and we didn't completely know 206 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: it at the time. 207 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Yep, yep, more to come. 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We got 247 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 4: other news to catch up on, some of the views 248 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: about the economy that Trump's about to own. It's easier 249 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 4: to complain about it when you're not in office. Once 250 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 4: you're in office, you get to the credit or the 251 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: blame for whatever it's going on. 252 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: They're a handful of big, ugly birds that will come 253 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: home to roost on his watch, like it or not. 254 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: Yep, A bunch of stuff on the way. Stay here. 255 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: I got a question for you, Katie. Maybe you could 256 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: look this up. All Joe's telling us about things. Why 257 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: is Slutty Vegan named Slutty Vegan the restaurant chain it's 258 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: very popular and Snoop Dogg and Justin Timberlake and Tyler 259 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: Perry and everybody raving about and investing in the chain 260 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: that is Slutty Vegan. But I get the Vegan part. 261 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: I know what that means. I know it slutty means. 262 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 4: But why combined for the name. 263 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: Of a restaurant. If you can figure that out, let 264 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: us know, Katie. Thank you strikes me as trying a 265 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: bit too hard. The name. 266 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, A couple of quick stories for you that bear mentioned. 267 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Then moving on, MSNBC is in a ratings free fall 268 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: and they couldn't really afford it. Rachel Modeaux, MSNBC's twenty 269 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: five million dollars a year top star, has lost forty 270 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: three percent of her audience since election day. 271 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: The forty three percent. 272 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: I think it's the same thing that happened to a 273 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: certain number of Fox viewers back in twenty twelve. You 274 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: told me during this whole election. Ooah, wait till election day. 275 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: Oh boy, you just wait. That's when Mitt Romney's gonna 276 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: say that the polls are wrong. MSNBC ran that act 277 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: with Kamala Harris ignoring reality, and then when reality hit, 278 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: they're like. 279 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: Listening to you wires anymore? 280 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: Right in the hole. He's Hitler, He's Hitlerry. We're gonna 281 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: go have lunch with him? Then come on, maybe I'll 282 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: take it too, Slutty Vegan. Oh, speaking of the transition, 283 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: great stuff. On how unprecedented it is that the elect 284 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: president elect would be functioning as the president so clearly 285 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: and obviously, and. 286 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: Everybody's in favor of it. 287 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you got a couple of Democrats who are 288 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: whining about it, but gonna quote Peggy Noonan about that, 289 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: and a very very funny joke as well about the transition. 290 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: Stay with this place. 291 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: I've been ignoring the Hannah Kobayashi disappeared Hawaiian hot chick thing. 292 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: I mean, she it was obvious from moment one she 293 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: just decided to go to Mexico. And I'm thinking, I 294 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: don't care if you go to Mexico or to Hell 295 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: or to the grocery store to pick up a quart 296 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: of milk. 297 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: I don't care. 298 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm miss saying, Wama, No, She's obviously well. It turns 299 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: out the story is kind of interesting. It's now known 300 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: why she flaked from her flight at Lax and went 301 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: to Mexico. 302 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: She was not on that flight by herself. 303 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: She was on her way to New York alongside her 304 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: new fake green card husband, Argentine native Ellen Kakaise, in 305 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: a bid to hoodwink immigration officials into believing their marriage 306 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: was genuine. On that same flight, her ex boyfriend joined 307 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: them with his own green card wife, Marian, who happens 308 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: to be mister Kakaise's girlfriend Aweso. 309 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: So it's not a thriple thing or a love quadrangle 310 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 4: or anything. They're just people who are trying to beat 311 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 4: the system for immigration status. 312 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 313 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: So the MESSI love square all on the plane together 314 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: was only possible because Cakease had given Kobyashi fifteen grand 315 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: with the promise of another fifteen grand once the documents 316 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: came through. They actually tied the knot in October. But 317 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: I guess this Kobyashi woman told all her friends what 318 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: they were doing, but her fake husband decided it would 319 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: look more authentic for immigration officials to like pose in 320 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: front of the Statue of Liberty, like we travel around 321 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: together a lot, so that's why they were going to 322 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: New York. Then for some reason, she decides, I don't 323 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: want to do that. 324 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 4: Quickly, Katie, can you tell us why it's called slutty Vegan. 325 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 4: It is solely to make people ask questions. That was it. 326 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with anything sexual, just to 327 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: catch you name. It was just to get people's attention. 328 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 4: But they do have things on the men you like 329 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 4: the menage TOI shrimp Berger, vegan shrimpberger and hooker fries. 330 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: Ooh so they got right. Yeah, they get the sexual 331 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 2: undertones on the menu too. 332 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 5: Oo. 333 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 334 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: So if your head is as pliable as a fresh 335 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: loaf of white bread. Then you'll be excited to go 336 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: eat there and tell your friends about it. 337 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: Have you been to slutty vegan? It's amazing. That's the 338 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 4: word you have to use. If you get an a 339 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 4: floody vegan. 340 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: You're kidding me. I just do you enjoy being manipulated? People? 341 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: Don't you see what's happening here? 342 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 4: I know some people are insulted by the attempt, and 343 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: some people just buy incompletely. 344 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: Coming up, young progressives vow they'll skip the holidays rather 345 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: than spend them with right wing relatives, Armstrong and getty. 346 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: Information is coming in piecemeal. 347 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 6: The latest that we just heard is that, yes, an 348 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 6: American was found who'd been traveling in the region on some. 349 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: Sort of pilgrimage. 350 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 6: He was in a small house packed with rebels, aid 351 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 6: workers and journalists, and there on the floor was Travis 352 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 6: Timmerman from Missouri. 353 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: Was it in seven months? You've been here? 354 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 6: Yes? 355 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: I was in prisoned for seven months. 356 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 6: If if Timmerman says he crossed into Syria from Lebanon 357 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 6: without a visa. 358 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: Timmerman was freed on Monday. 359 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 6: He was found walking barefoot and alone. Now a free 360 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 6: man after his religious journey met the harsh reality of 361 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 6: the modern Middle East. 362 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a very nice way to say it. Richard 363 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 4: angele A, Yes, I appreciate that a man, those of 364 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 4: you who are willing to go to North Korea wor 365 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: Syria to try to spread the good news. 366 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 6: Wow. 367 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, walking into Syria, just walking across the border into 368 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: one of the worst places on Earth where the most 369 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 4: likely thing that happens to you is ends up in 370 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: a dungeon and tortured to death. 371 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: So you can tell people about Jesus. This is interesting. 372 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate the effort. Well, I don't want to say 373 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: anything harsh about the guy. He's just he's obviously got 374 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: a screw loose. There's hmm. If this is one of 375 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 1: the worst things I've ever said in my life, and 376 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: that's saying something if he were to have ten kids, say, 377 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: do you think the herd would be stronger or weaker? 378 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 4: Even while I'm saying that and believing it. The missionaries, 379 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: for instance, the Spanish missionaries that came up from Mexico, 380 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 4: Spain had been running Mexico for one hundred years, one 381 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty years. When they are coming up to 382 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: California for instance, I'm building all those missions. That's a 383 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: pretty harsh climate to go into. Yes, the Indians were 384 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: you know, Native Americans, the first people, so whatever you 385 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: want to call them, they're pretty likely to get captured 386 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: and immutilated or tortured to death. 387 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: Also, similar sort of thing spread the words I suppose. 388 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: So I suppose so many of the early saints of 389 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: the church went where they weren't wanted and. 390 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: Suffered terribly for it. So you do you, friend, I'll 391 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: just leave it there. Huh. 392 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he wasn't. Yeah, what an interesting topic. Is 393 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: he insane or just that dedicated? 394 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: Huh? I'm going with insane, but that's just me. Yeah. 395 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: Donald J. 396 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: Trump is going to be the president of January twentieth, 397 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: barring the unforeseen and uh and a. 398 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: Couple of things. 399 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: Number one, he's got some big giant birds that are 400 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: coming home to roost economically speaking, which I want to 401 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: get to in a moment or two. Foreign policy wise, 402 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: oh boy, you know, please forgive me for saying what 403 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm to say. The Middle East is really unstable right now, 404 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: I know, but the situation with Iran will change drastically 405 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: in the next two years. 406 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: In my opinion, it has to. 407 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: They are cornered, they are desperate, They are as weak 408 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: as they have ever been there, as evil as they 409 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: have ever been. Is now the time they are toppled 410 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: and freedom restored to the good people of the Iranian 411 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: land mass? There many of whom yearn for freedom? Or 412 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: do they lash out like a cornered beast with a 413 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: nuclear bomb? Oh, it looks like they're further ahead of 414 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: schedule than we thought. Or what how does this end? 415 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: That's coming home to roost. 416 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: I'm all for toppling the regime in Iran. I think 417 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: I was listening to a podcast about that. I think 418 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: Iraq was a horrible idea. I think we should take 419 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: out Iran. Iran vows has been vowing for forty years 420 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: to attack us. They hate us, they're the number one 421 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: export of terror on planet Earth, and they're close to 422 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: a bomb. 423 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't we take our chance now when they're the 424 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: weak as they've ever been? 425 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: Right? 426 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: It just don't know something different to quibble slightly. 427 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: Taking out Saddam was a very questionable idea with an 428 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: horrifically inept implementation. 429 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: Mostly anyway, we won't relitigate that. 430 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm reminded of Harold McMillan when he was 431 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister of the UK back in like the 432 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties. A reporter asked him essentially, what's going 433 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: to you know, what to what are you going to 434 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: do with your administration? What is what is going to 435 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: determine it? And he replied to the reporter, events, my 436 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: dear boy, events. And sure enough they're big giant events 437 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: that Trump is going to have to deal with of, 438 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, foreign policy and economic import But the fact 439 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: that he's already the president's or might as well be 440 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: right now is so wildly completely nuts and unprecedented. Everybody's 441 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: a mazed by it, and except for like a couple 442 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: of hardcore Democrats, everybody's fine with it. 443 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a measure of Trump's confidence. You know. 444 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: Peggy Noonan wrote and quite accurately, as usual, that he's 445 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: one of those rare guys who said, you know, if 446 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: I had a chance to do it all again, and 447 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: he gets that chance. So he's got the confidence, he's 448 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: got the wind behind him, he has specific ideas for 449 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: what he wants to accomplish and how he wants to 450 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: accomplish it, and the incumbent is such a weak, mummified 451 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: old relic that everybody's so. 452 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: Done with him. 453 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: Nobody cares that Trump has asserted himself like he has, 454 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: meeting with all sorts of foreign leaders and then British 455 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: Royalty and such. 456 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: Trump talks. 457 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote Peggy Noonan now, Trump talks of new 458 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: tariffs on Canada. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau rushes down to 459 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: mar A Lago after their meeting. Mister Trump refers to 460 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: him on untruth social as the governor of the Great 461 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: State of Canada. That's which is unbelievable. Oh my god, 462 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: tell you what, love Trumper? 463 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Hate him. 464 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: He thumbs his nose at so many of the really 465 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: silly conventions of foreign policy in a way that's really 466 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: really refreshing. Sometimes sometimes not, but I love that. 467 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: Oh. 468 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: By the way, the Babylon b headline about that meeting 469 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: is brilliant. Trump tells Trudeau he won't annex Canada if 470 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: they admit their bacon is just ham. 471 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful. 472 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: And then the government of Sirius suddenly falls and Trump 473 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: truths out, this is not our fight. 474 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: Don't get involved. 475 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: The next day, Joe Biden characterizes the moment as one of. 476 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: Risk and uncertainty for the region. 477 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: And nun and ice, was there ever a moment that 478 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: wasn't one of risk and uncertainty for the region. Then 479 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: he's being assertive with the Ukraine thing and and the 480 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: rest of it's really it's really something. 481 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: Well, maybe I should put this here. 482 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 4: Trump truth this out last night, Like I liked all 483 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: that stuff you just said, I don't like this, Oh Trump. 484 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: Last night, just finished a meeting with the International Longshoreman's 485 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: Association and it's president Harold Daggett remember him from a 486 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. Long Sherman went on striking everything 487 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: like that. He's saying all these sounding like a mobster 488 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: threatening things. There's been a lot of discussion having to 489 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: do with automation on United States docs. I've studied automation 490 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 4: and know just about everything there is to know about it, says. 491 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: Trump in classic Trump's style, very trump y. 492 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: Yes, the amount of money saved is nowhere near the distress, 493 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 4: hurt and harm it causes for American workers in this 494 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 4: case are longshoremen, and goes on how we need to 495 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 4: not automate and we need to just have human beings 496 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: writing down license plates, numbers and running equipment that computers 497 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: can easily now do as they. 498 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: Do in foreign ports all around the world, and are 499 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: kicking our ass. 500 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: This is one of the worst things he has done 501 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: and continues to do. His proposed Secretary of Labor is 502 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: a union hack, a teacher's union hack of all things, 503 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: and he's obviously just doing whatever he can to get 504 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: loyalty from the union. 505 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: He won the Zell America. That's terrible. He won the election. 506 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 4: I understand if he's saying making these kind of noises 507 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: before the election. 508 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: You won the election. You won. This is your last term. 509 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: Trump is so frustrating. I'll tell you this without fear 510 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: of contradiction. If a tough guy kisses his ass, Trump 511 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: will do anything for him. 512 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: Part of his message was this foreign companies have made 513 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: a fortune in the US by giving them access to 514 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: our markets. They shouldn't be looking for every last penny, 515 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: knowing how families are hurt. They've got record profits, and 516 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 4: I'd rather see these foreign companies spend it on the 517 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: great men and women. Are docks, then machinery which is 518 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 4: expensive and will constantly have to be replaced and break down. 519 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: Oh, come on, that is a weak argument. We have 520 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: the defficient ports in the world. 521 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and and he's criticizing foreign companies and countries for 522 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: taking advantage of us. 523 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: By automating and particularly that. 524 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 4: Is really not I mean, because Trump is usually like 525 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: a hard eyed realist about things. 526 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: That is the opposite. 527 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: Well, he's a hard eyed realist about if he wants 528 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: the union support going forward to do some of the 529 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: other things he wants to do, he's got to trade this. 530 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: I almost used a word that rhymes with bostitute. But 531 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: he's going to trade off this issue, I guess frustrating. 532 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: I tell you what, if he ends up in bed 533 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: with the teachers' union, Oh boy, that would be that 534 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: I cannot forgive. 535 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: That would be too far. Surely not. 536 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: His His secretary of labor Chick is best buddies with 537 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: Randy Weingart, has tried to obliterate workers' rights. It wants 538 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: to obliterate them in every state in the union, every 539 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: red state that stood up to their employee unions who 540 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: are bankrupting state after state after state, the public employee unions, every. 541 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: State that stood up against them. 542 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: She wants to bring them down and make federal law 543 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: forbid them from making those reforms. 544 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: She is awful, She is evil, She is. 545 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Bad for America, and Trump's embracing her because of this 546 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: loss to have the unions on his side. It's troubling. 547 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: How much of a trade is too much being a dollar? 548 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 4: Well to keep our eye on that one, but he's 549 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: above fifty percent on practically every topic that could possibly 550 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 4: exist around an incoming president. 551 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: For now, honeymoon a couple of economic stories of note 552 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: number one. I mentioned this briefly before. If you're talking 553 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: about the lower core tile of American consumers, that's your 554 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: poorest twenty five percent, big fat red warning lights are 555 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: flashing at all of the retailers, like the dollar stores 556 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: or Walmart. Who tracks shoppers and what they do that 557 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: those folks have really. 558 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: Really cut back their spending. They're hurting. So yeah, there 559 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: are long lines everywhere. 560 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of Walmart, my wife's there at the Walmart 561 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: History and they had like a third as many registers 562 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: open as they needed to. Huge long lines, I mean, 563 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: like the airport security long lines. And everybody's pretty frustrated, 564 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: and the guy behind her starts saying, Walmart, you. 565 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: Gotta get your act together. You got to open more 566 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: registers you can't abuse this this way. 567 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: I agree, And everything was like, damn right, brother, yeah, yeah, yeah. 568 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: About ten seconds later he said, come on, Walmart, it's 569 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: the matter with you. We got place to be. 570 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: I agree. 571 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: About ten seconds after that, Walmart, what's the matter with you. 572 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: We gotta get through these lines. 573 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: By the sixth time he unleash this ran to the 574 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: crowd had turned oh really yeah, and everybody's like, and 575 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: Judy described its we I'll describe it to you in 576 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: my own way. But it was like, all right, dude, 577 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: you're adding to our stress. You're not relieving it. Please 578 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: stop yelling. We heard you, They heard you, Everyone heard you. 579 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: I've seen it work before. 580 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: I've seen that work waiting in the store before it 581 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: gets attention in people's they get they jump on the. 582 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: Phone high were gonna need another checker in Aisle three. 583 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: Things are starting to get ugly. 584 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: We've got a code seven, Code seven, angry dude repetitively 585 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: yelling about the number of venges it anyway, So another 586 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: economic story I thought was interesting. 587 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: Good news and bad news. 588 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: The bad news is your homeowner's insurance is going to 589 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: keep going up. The good news is I got you 590 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: to listen to that by telling you there would be 591 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: good news. 592 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no good news. That's kind of what I 593 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: was expecting. Yeah, and you know what it is, Hal Hale. 594 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: There is so much building going on in some of 595 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: the like the southeast and the south central states, like Texas, 596 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: for instance, Wall Street Journal reporting on this boom area 597 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: north of Dallas where they're building house as fast as 598 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: they can. People are loving Texas, They're moving to Texas. 599 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: Hale's horrendous, horrendous thunderstorms there like for a lot of 600 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: the year. And so if it wasn't the wildfires, and 601 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: it's not the hurricanes driving up claims for insurance companies, 602 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: now it's hail. Some of the mass on how climate 603 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: change works into that really interesting. We'll get to that 604 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: maybe after the break. 605 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 4: Okay, over Christmas, we got into a car insurance discussion 606 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: all of us because everybody's car insurance is so much higher. 607 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 4: Was it like thirty percent higher than last year And 608 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 4: it's been a couple of years in a row between 609 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: homeowners insurance and car insurance. I don't know how people 610 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 4: are expected to live. I don't know how you're supposed 611 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 4: to afford to live, and the price of food. Yeah right, 612 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 4: Trump is inheriting all that, and we'll see how long. Well, 613 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 4: people already have a negative attitude about the economy. We'll 614 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: see if you can turn that around. Okay, all that 615 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 4: stuff on the way and other Yeah you're pointing out 616 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: we were taking a break. Cool good stuff on the way, 617 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 4: stay right here. 618 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 7: Finally, the dean of a Massachusetts high school was arrested 619 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 7: recently for allegedly operating a drug trafficking ring that sold 620 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 7: large amounts of cocaine. On the bright side, their track 621 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 7: team dominated at state. 622 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: Wow, I know, wow. 623 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: Coming up, young progressives vow they'll skip the holidays rather 624 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: than spend time with their reactionary white supremacist family members. 625 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: America reacts by saying, you'll be missed in theory. Man, Yeah, 626 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: I know too much. Ah, grow up, everybody, Grow the 627 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: hell up. Some people disagree with you and see the 628 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: world differently. Get over it. So getting back to the insurance. 629 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: Sorry from the Wall Street Journal and Jack Day to 630 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: your previous point. The One Galley interview says, everywhere I go, 631 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: everybody I talk to this comes up homeowner's insurance. Yeah 632 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: that's true. Heck, that's true in my life too. It's amazing. 633 00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: And the insurance industry, which if you've never thought about it, 634 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: they are all about math, actuarial tables, likelihoods, that's the 635 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: whole deal. And so they've analyzed what's causing their costs 636 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: and claims to go up so much. And insured losses 637 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: from US storms have grown eight percent a year for 638 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: more than a decade, according to one of their big 639 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: umbrella organizations, a significantly faster and economic growth. Climate change 640 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: accounted for around an eighth of that increase. And we've 641 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: got to get away from you know, climate change. The 642 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: climate is changing. The climate always changes, it goes through 643 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: cycles and that sort of thing. But the left got 644 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: everybody to think climate change means climate change caused by 645 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: mankind that can be stopped. Therefore, we must funnel trillions 646 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: of dollars into questionable green programs anytime you say climate change. 647 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: But that's not what we mean at all. 648 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, change in the climate they figured accounted 649 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: for about one eighth of that increase. 650 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: Inflation made more than a third. 651 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: Of the annual rise in Yeah, and development in climate 652 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: prone areas much of the rest. Whether it's the hail 653 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: and the thunderstorms in the midwestern part of the country 654 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: which is growing rapidly, or hurricanes in the southeast, or 655 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: wildfires in the west, just higher. 656 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: Claims as a development sprawls. 657 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: Well, why did car insurance go up so much at 658 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 4: the same time that homeowners insurance went up so much? 659 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: So a third of it would also be inflation, Yes, and. 660 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: Lord knows, I'm no expert, but a lot of it 661 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: had to do with the supply chain disruptions and parts 662 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: and scarcity. 663 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 4: And how I know is between those two things, it's 664 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 4: expensive to be a human. 665 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's brutal, brutal. 666 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I really really feel for people who are 667 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: at the point in their lives that we were years ago, 668 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: where at the end of the month, if you can 669 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: stick twenty bucks in the bank, that's a good month. 670 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: Of course, suggested for inflation that twenty dollars is worth 671 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: about three. 672 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: I know, why are we still making pennies? I think 673 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 4: about various denominations of money since inflation, They're like, a 674 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 4: dollar is not really worth anything, right right? 675 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: A guy asked me the other day, do you have 676 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: any ones to break up this five? I'm like, why 677 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: would I carry one dollar bills to accomplish. What am 678 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: I in a low rent strip club? 679 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 680 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: I know. I mean there's a thing I'm a part 681 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 4: of where people would put a dollar in the basket 682 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 4: to help pay for things, and they announced that, can we. 683 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: Start putting more than a dollar in everybody? Because everybody's 684 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: just in the habit of that. Yeah, and because a 685 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: dollar's worth so little now, Yeah, you're right though a 686 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: penny is ridiculous. 687 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 4: It's in defensive Yes, it's a tiny fraction of an 688 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 4: amount of money that could be worth anything. 689 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,439 Speaker 1: Why don't we come up with the hay penny, which 690 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: is the halfpenny or maybe a tenth of a penny, 691 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: I mean, round up or down or whatever. I don't care. 692 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: Put them on train tracks so they get flattened. Just 693 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: stop making well. 694 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 4: And the best part of it is it costs three 695 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 4: cents to make up penny. That's the best part of it. 696 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 4: We'll get to some of that other stuff on the way. 697 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 2: Stay tuned, Armstrong and Getty