Speaker 1: You'd be eight years old right now. And as long
Speaker 1: as the put us to the podcast, start over, everybody, Chester,
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. Everybody. Everybody's here. Chester was just
Speaker 1: starting to tell something that I thought it was so
Speaker 1: interesting sounding that I thought that everyone should hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Wisconsin is like the state for a lot of drinking,
Speaker 1: a lot of drinking going on. But as a kid,
Speaker 1: I'm sure about that when there a lot of drinking
Speaker 1: going on in Wisconsin, states with highest alcohol. The truth
Speaker 1: about Wisconsin t it's got to be. I heard when
Speaker 1: I was in Wisconsin this year for rifle season. I
Speaker 1: heard that there's more brandy consumed in one county of
Speaker 1: Wisconsin than in the rest of the country. It wouldn't count.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past them because they like it,
Speaker 1: throwing it in an old fashioned like a brandy old
Speaker 1: fashioned sweet? Is it popular? One? Chester? You're right and
Speaker 1: you're wrong. Okay, number eight number what's number one? New
Speaker 1: Hampshire really four four point six seven gallons per person?
Speaker 1: Delaware three point five two gallons per personally, Nevada number
Speaker 1: three three point four two gallons. Montana's number five. So
Speaker 1: you would have to start your story by saying something
Speaker 1: like Wisconsin, what did I say, with less drinking than
Speaker 1: where we're sitting now? What I say, but still more
Speaker 1: than forty other states. I guess what I mean is
Speaker 1: people like to drink, but people like to drink there,
Speaker 1: and I don't I think this is legal. Don't quote
Speaker 1: me on this, but it happens all the time when
Speaker 1: but you're quoting yourself. This is, this is recorded. This
Speaker 1: will exist until the Internet stops. Yeah, well, right right now.
Speaker 1: If you're like, if it's okay with the bar and
Speaker 1: the bartenders, if you're in a bar with your parents,
Speaker 1: Let's say you're eight years old and they let you
Speaker 1: have a beer. And as long as it's okay with
Speaker 1: your parents and you're with your parents and the bartenders like, yep,
Speaker 1: give him Miller, you can drink. M hmm. Here's the
Speaker 1: problem with story like that. It can't be true. You
Speaker 1: just say you say no. It's like it's so easy
Speaker 1: to find out if that's true or not. It'll just
Speaker 1: take a second Google. But I think that it was illegal,
Speaker 1: but I think that's just how you were brought up.
Speaker 1: It is true, and I know why, because there's no
Speaker 1: drinking age. If you're with your parents. Because Kyle Rittenhouse,
Speaker 1: the dude in the Kenosha thing, there was a big
Speaker 1: story that he was seen in a bar with his
Speaker 1: parents drinking beer. Um, despite being under age. How does
Speaker 1: that make it true because it was observed? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I could observe you stealing my ship and that would
Speaker 1: make no. No No. No. It wasn't like he was observed
Speaker 1: doing something like illegal. It was like, this is a
Speaker 1: thing that happened. And then the story I believe, had
Speaker 1: an amendment, amendumdendm adendum in it's saying you can do
Speaker 1: that in Wisconsin. M Again, who's just so usually so Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get there. No ship. Yes, persons underage
Speaker 1: twenty one may possess and consume alcoholic beverages if they're
Speaker 1: with their parents. I figured I was. But I am
Speaker 1: saying stuff online where it will be around forever, you know,
Speaker 1: just like you said. So with Kyle Rittenhouse, someone pointed
Speaker 1: out like, well here's what I'll tell you, and they
Speaker 1: somehow made it pertinent, like oh, I don't understand what nothing.
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas? So that was just I can't remember what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Chester, Well, we were just talking about
Speaker 1: drinking and Chris making a not Christmas drink. Very it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty Christmas e it's Kevin's fancy meat eater, fancy
Speaker 1: pants cocktail. It s got um hibiscus syrup in it,
Speaker 1: which hibiscus is a flower that folks from the Caribbean
Speaker 1: make a beverage out of with uh cloves and cinnamon
Speaker 1: called cerell. So it's like a cerell syrup with um
Speaker 1: lemon juice uh madera cecil which is a port fortified
Speaker 1: like dry port wine from Portugal. And the main ingredient
Speaker 1: is Satal from Desert Door, which is a distillery in Driftwood,
Speaker 1: Texas that we went there. We went there, yep um,
Speaker 1: and they the beverage's name is satal, which is the
Speaker 1: same name of the plant satoll, which is the same
Speaker 1: name as a plant. It looks kind of like it
Speaker 1: looks like yeah um, and these dudes take it away,
Speaker 1: so they're they're satoll is from wild satol. It's not
Speaker 1: like they don't grow it in a agave farmer plantation.
Speaker 1: They go out to big ranches or go out and
Speaker 1: strike a deal with the rancher and clear like some
Speaker 1: percentage of the satol on a place that's cool and
Speaker 1: then ferment that ship and make that satoll Oh it's
Speaker 1: good man. Oh yeah, I loved it. It's real good.
Speaker 1: So wasn't that was fun? Made us all that food?
Speaker 1: Oh it was great. So yeah, Jesse Griffith's um, I
Speaker 1: was associated. He's got some of his food. That was
Speaker 1: a snuggled snuggled baby orc. Yeah. Right, that was a
Speaker 1: big day. Saw the stole place. We did a lot
Speaker 1: of things. It was like a we had like an
Speaker 1: adventure day. It's kind of like that when you go
Speaker 1: down there with Jesse. Yeah he wasn't no not Yeah,
Speaker 1: we like just missed him. But so Kevin Um created
Speaker 1: the recipe for this cocktail. I'll put it in the
Speaker 1: show notes um and if you guys want to try it,
Speaker 1: you'll have all the info there. And Desert Door actually
Speaker 1: just made their web shop live, so it's basically just
Speaker 1: shop desert door dot com. And they're really cool distillery.
Speaker 1: They're really interested in conservation. They have a nonprofit wing
Speaker 1: called Wild Spirit Wild Places. Since it's tall as wild harvested,
Speaker 1: they really um, you know, it's it's important to them
Speaker 1: to keep the landscape healthy. So this wild plant continues
Speaker 1: to grow great the least. The more you think about it,
Speaker 1: the more you'll get the answer. Right, it's gotta be
Speaker 1: some with like dry count good listen, Nope, you know what.
Speaker 1: Those guys stick to their guns. Remember when I was
Speaker 1: naming all the drinking amounts. Okay, so one point three
Speaker 1: five gallons of alcohol consumption per capital. That's one point
Speaker 1: three five as opposed to the winner at four point
Speaker 1: six seven five times is drunk in that state? M Hm?
Speaker 1: Where's Pennsylvania sit on the list? I'm curious somewhere in
Speaker 1: the vast middleman because this goes to number ten, which
Speaker 1: is South Dakota, because of the little tidbit they throw
Speaker 1: in the least. Yeah, that's because it's hard to buy
Speaker 1: beard gas stations in Pennsylvania. Chester Here, this will help
Speaker 1: your story. Buddy, What city drinks the most alcohol? Milwaukee, Wisconsin? Nope, Nope, Madison, Kenosha,
Speaker 1: Green Bay. Point five of the drink of the of
Speaker 1: adults in that place, by definition, drink excessively. Most of
Speaker 1: it happens on the ice or on the water. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what state drinks the most beer? Mississippi. In New Hampshire,
Speaker 1: they're drinking forty one five gallons of beer per person,
Speaker 1: and the King of Beers is their favorite beer. I
Speaker 1: thought it'd be a warm state. Oh, this is surprising
Speaker 1: Christmas podcast. No, here's one you'll never guess. Here's there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are drinking. No one in
Speaker 1: this rum will guest. Come on, what state drinks the
Speaker 1: most wine? No one got this. It's not gonna be California.
Speaker 1: Gave it away. You're right. I should have said everyone
Speaker 1: will get it California. Are you serious? It's not California.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna get it. Indiana. Okay, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to round the room. Johnny Washington, d C. So that's
Speaker 1: not a state. New Jersey, I don't know, Hunter, Virginia,
Speaker 1: kar Washington state. Phil, I'm gonna say Florida. That sounds
Speaker 1: like a weird choice. That's a great choice. Old people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: old wine drinkers. Oh yeah, that is good. Phil, Minnesota, Hayden, Connecticut, Idaho, No, neverwhere.
Speaker 1: But listen to how low it is. This is. It's surprised.
Speaker 1: So Idaho drinks the most wine per capita, but it's
Speaker 1: their only drink at one point to one gallon. They're
Speaker 1: only drinking one point two gallons of wine per person
Speaker 1: in Idaho, but New Hampshire they're doing four point six
Speaker 1: seven gallons of beer per person. I guess it makes
Speaker 1: sense because three times stronger. Everyone in New Hampshire, every
Speaker 1: like every single person in New Hampshire. It's like how
Speaker 1: many bush lights seven and I have on a weekly
Speaker 1: basis when you're working in the garage here. I want
Speaker 1: to I wanna play something for people like this wild.
Speaker 1: I'm probably the only one that remembers this. I'm the
Speaker 1: only one that's old enough. Um, you know the guy
Speaker 1: sitting to your left, you're constantly calling old. Oh no,
Speaker 1: he's he's off the ages and things. Oh that's right.
Speaker 1: I forgot sorry, I got a call of HRR. I
Speaker 1: was like, it sounds like you, j jar layoff. Brody,
Speaker 1: it's Christine. I just got a cold. Brody thinks it's funny,
Speaker 1: but everybody else has had enough. He's a good sport
Speaker 1: about it. But other people are really good upset themselves
Speaker 1: at night. Okay, we remember this. Nothing brings back warm
Speaker 1: holiday memories like the songs and Carol's You Love and
Speaker 1: Only Time. Life's Treasury of Christmas brings you all your
Speaker 1: favorite holiday songs in one collection. Dude, I watched that
Speaker 1: thousands of times on accident when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: You watched the commercial the Time Life. Okay, it's a
Speaker 1: long story. Do you know about this? I mean I
Speaker 1: feel like I remember what you just played from my youth. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Hey has single handedly have you done all the lyrics? Dude,
Speaker 1: I've created a monster. Yeah, Hayne has single handedly rewritten
Speaker 1: every Christmas song to have a hunting and fishing theme.
Speaker 1: Every everyone, everyone in the cannon. So many broad strokes
Speaker 1: that were that were so many that we're making one
Speaker 1: of these commercials with uh, we're making one of these commercials.
Speaker 1: We're making a Time Life two c d s or
Speaker 1: two whatever cassettes of all the rewritten holiday songs. Oh
Speaker 1: that's great. It's just stressed briefly. But I didn't know
Speaker 1: you guys were going that far into the Wired to
Speaker 1: Hunt podcast. You've definitely maybe too many times. I'm not
Speaker 1: not do it. I'm just I'm just a cheerleader. All
Speaker 1: I did, all I did, and it was I told
Speaker 1: him that that he has to get some female vocalists
Speaker 1: because it can't just be the same two people singing
Speaker 1: all the songs that was my input because my favorite
Speaker 1: one is, um, you guys, see you guys still take
Speaker 1: my advice on it. You're gonna do it. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: cold outside. Yeah, and it's a risk ay song like
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know how it's still in the
Speaker 1: holiday can Well it's been um, it's been canceled, like
Speaker 1: Michael Boublet and John Legend have re recorded it with
Speaker 1: unproblematic lyrics and it's and like it's it's not it's
Speaker 1: I mean it's really bad, but like because there's a guy.
Speaker 1: It's a Christmas song. There's a guy he uh is
Speaker 1: he has a female guest she would really like to leave.
Speaker 1: He's discouraging her from leaving and saying, just have some
Speaker 1: more drinks. Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely Stevie. But
Speaker 1: I think we can let the song exist and acknowledge
Speaker 1: that it's it's Stevie without recording eight new versions that
Speaker 1: are so I'm not looking to cancel it just song. However, However,
Speaker 1: it was brought up when we talked about doing it.
Speaker 1: It was brought up that I was like, Okay, someone
Speaker 1: brought up like, but you're kind of like goofing on
Speaker 1: what do you guys. What are you guys having a
Speaker 1: side deal about we're working on We're going to add
Speaker 1: to this conversation. Okay, it was brought up how the
Speaker 1: song has has become like kind of a joke, right,
Speaker 1: It's like a it's a you know, this guy's trying
Speaker 1: to a ladies trying to leave and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: you know, it's very cold outside us. They gonna have
Speaker 1: some more drinks. You know that happens in Wisconsin all
Speaker 1: the time. But there's no malicious intent. They're like most
Speaker 1: there's no malicious intent. It's like, no, no, have another
Speaker 1: old fashioned please let me make you another one, and
Speaker 1: they're like no, but I gotta go. You're like it's cold.
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, I'll have one more acent it's snow
Speaker 1: and wait for the plows coming to clear. It's no
Speaker 1: malicious intent at all. Oh I got one four? Do
Speaker 1: you know what? Um? You know? You know what's I
Speaker 1: know we're in the middle of a story, but I
Speaker 1: remember reading states that have the most hypothermia, and there's
Speaker 1: there's a surprise in there. I think it's like it's
Speaker 1: like it goes like Alaska, New Mexico, Montana or something
Speaker 1: like that was that a trivia question? No, but I
Speaker 1: have a theory about it. Well, I don't want to
Speaker 1: get into my theory about it anyhow, So after we're done,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. When Phil turns the machine off, um
Speaker 1: so he so so the Cold Outside song someone, I
Speaker 1: was like, he redid it? Hayd and rewrote it where
Speaker 1: it's someone wants to go home from hunting but someone's
Speaker 1: forcing him to stay and I and I was like,
Speaker 1: well it should be like a you know, I should
Speaker 1: it should be like a guy wants to stay hunting
Speaker 1: but his wife wants to go home. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that checked it. So I'm like, whatever, So now you
Speaker 1: guys are gonna do it. Okay, Well I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: a quick pass, not cutting edge, just show us we
Speaker 1: have the same sex couple. But we we did. In fact,
Speaker 1: Austin from Accounting Serious break aside from the podcast, Austin
Speaker 1: from Accounting did come in and sing the song She's
Speaker 1: not here right now here, A little taste, a little teaser.
Speaker 1: I just have the raw files, I haven't put them
Speaker 1: to music yet, so okay, so we can either play
Speaker 1: you know what I said, to my credit. To my credit,
Speaker 1: I said Okay, haven't be the woman wants to stay
Speaker 1: and the guy wants to go home, which is isn't
Speaker 1: that what what we did? Hidden? No, okay, I was
Speaker 1: just saying, I don't care how you do it. I
Speaker 1: don't care what the dynamic is. I just thought, like
Speaker 1: a duet should be a man and a woman. Oh
Speaker 1: so you're more like on like the ethos of a duet,
Speaker 1: less the ethos of the content of this song. I
Speaker 1: just feel that when I'm listening to do you should
Speaker 1: be a man and a woman of this nature. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't care who's on what side Johnny and Chewn Carter. Sure,
Speaker 1: I don't care who's on what side. If it's two
Speaker 1: guys sitting, I don't count it as a duet. No,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a harmony at that point. Two dudes
Speaker 1: can't duet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's you got the
Speaker 1: most one, you got the most wonderful? Time to kill
Speaker 1: deer queued up? I can Okay, song, so they did
Speaker 1: the whole How how long is it gonna take you
Speaker 1: to find it? We're gonna do it. We're going, for instance,
Speaker 1: the most wonderful Okay, for instance, for instance, the most
Speaker 1: what's that Christmas Carol, the most wonderful time of year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that this time. Yeah classic. Well, Henry wrote
Speaker 1: it as the most wonderful time to kill play it,
Speaker 1: play a snippet boys. Good to see you, Hayden. It's
Speaker 1: been a while. Hey, sorry, I'm it. I crashed my
Speaker 1: ponty at gast. I can do a light pool and
Speaker 1: how to walk the rest of the way. But I'm
Speaker 1: here now, that's what matters. Give me a glass of Scotch, please, Hayden.
Speaker 1: Just two rocks in there. I don't like ice. I'm
Speaker 1: starting already. Is this happening? Okay, give me the give
Speaker 1: me the glass, thank you. Okay, here we go. It's
Speaker 1: the most wonderful time to kill deer. With the run now,
Speaker 1: just starting and dashing and dotting and thanks, cutting clean.
Speaker 1: It's the most wonderful time you killed deer. There's far
Speaker 1: too much ice in this glass. It's the half happy one,
Speaker 1: beating and cold from some fleeting. The last week so fun.
Speaker 1: It's the half happy. Is season of amazing and bragging
Speaker 1: and boasting truck beds with big bucks and tow There
Speaker 1: will be narrow miss stories and tales of your glories
Speaker 1: of booner bucks missed with our ball. It's the most
Speaker 1: wonderful time crush to kill dear, not just one baby two.
Speaker 1: There will be no dose of blowing and loom and
Speaker 1: knocks glowing and blood trails so clean. It's the most
Speaker 1: wonderful time to kill dean. Excuse me? Can I have
Speaker 1: a napkin? Please? I just spilt some scotch on my loafers.
Speaker 1: I can't have dirty loafers in the studio. Thank you
Speaker 1: tailgate beers for drinking and big boxes slinking and chasing
Speaker 1: and sent checking does They will be fighting and scraping
Speaker 1: and no more escaping and arrow shot true hitting home
Speaker 1: key change. But no told me that it's the most
Speaker 1: wonderful time to kill deer. I was very unprepared for this.
Speaker 1: There will be much morning sitting in cold fronts, hitting
Speaker 1: the dawn crispin clean. It's the most swonderful time, Oh,
Speaker 1: the most swonderful time. It's the most swonderful time to
Speaker 1: kill dean. There's too much ice in the glass. To
Speaker 1: amazing lot of questions and comments. It's called Treasury of Christmas.
Speaker 1: I'm really in the spirit now, I'm like that big time.
Speaker 1: I'm fired. But my question is is the is the
Speaker 1: care that you're playing that singing that is that Sinatra
Speaker 1: was going for a rap back thing. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: there was no one specific. Okay, okay, okay, more drinks
Speaker 1: are being poured. Everybody likes to drink pure hit me
Speaker 1: with the other songs? What else is on there? So
Speaker 1: we're gonna do that's the only one that's completed. All
Speaker 1: the other ones were hate and I have. We recorded
Speaker 1: a couple and recording more either today or tomorrow. Do
Speaker 1: the duet? So is this gonna be like a legit
Speaker 1: c D. It's gonna be a joke commercial or whatever,
Speaker 1: but we can't actually buy the product that was about
Speaker 1: be available and like at least to listen to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, I know you don't like things
Speaker 1: that go viral, but that's gonna go, right. So, how
Speaker 1: you guys gonna how you guys gonna So when people
Speaker 1: hear the commercial and they hear all the songs, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hayden wrote out he didn't write a so he wrote
Speaker 1: a old version for Most Wonderful Time to Kill Deer,
Speaker 1: and then for the rest of the songs he just
Speaker 1: wrote kind of like thirty second snippets that you would
Speaker 1: hear in a Time Life commercial. You know, I just
Speaker 1: kind of goes do it, does the montage thing. So
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have full songs of everyone. Who's got
Speaker 1: the damn list? Who's got the list? Hey, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: Hayden wrote the list. I've got the list in front
Speaker 1: of my face. Hit me with the couple. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so we've got Okay, we'll go in five. That's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do right Now's baby, It's okay, we're going five.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the ones that's not done.
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna do it together right now. We're
Speaker 1: doing it live. Who's what you guys is playing the um?
Speaker 1: Who's playing the person that wants to go? Phillis person
Speaker 1: you're the first person. I'm in the parentheses here fills
Speaker 1: the guy that already killed. So he's like, I go
Speaker 1: out with Hayden. I'm away better hunter. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: already notched my tag. Okay, so this is playing off
Speaker 1: play a snippet of the play a snippet of the
Speaker 1: song Phill, Just to remind people what that is. I
Speaker 1: didn't have that cute. Yeah, I thought you guys got
Speaker 1: it right here. Here. But baby, it's cold outside. But baby,
Speaker 1: it's cold outside. It's been holding at you dropping, I'll
Speaker 1: hold your hands. They're just like, guys, beautiful. We probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't play this much copyrighted music. Had that out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. Cultural, Yeah, commentary so critical. There's
Speaker 1: that famous Christmas song which is becoming less famous about
Speaker 1: the second. Okay, now do you guys version? Okay, So, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna gotta come in a weird time. Were gonna
Speaker 1: play the song? You know that song? I just realized
Speaker 1: she comes by his house. Yeah, man, this is a
Speaker 1: great look. So that's a great look. Keep keep going. Well, no,
Speaker 1: imagine that he showed up at her house. Yeah, that'd
Speaker 1: be weirder. Come in here, man, No, no, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not saying it's good that he's
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm saying I just never caught. I'm pointing
Speaker 1: out I never caught she had come by his house.
Speaker 1: That's right. I want to make a joke and I won't.
Speaker 1: Um Okay, Hayden, you're ready, Yeah, sure, So what are
Speaker 1: you doing for musical accompaniment? You're just playing off a
Speaker 1: carry over? Yeah? Yeah, I really can't stay Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: go in five. I'm done for two days. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: go in five. This whole time i've been We just
Speaker 1: need some that. Just five more min it's that thing
Speaker 1: in the clock. But it's almost come back to water soon.
Speaker 1: I'm hungry and i'm cold and baby, just five minutes more.
Speaker 1: But okay, we'll go five. There's gotta be more too
Speaker 1: it than that. Well, it's only three string together for
Speaker 1: the commercial. It's that's all. That's a long. Oh you
Speaker 1: guys didn't write any more than that. They'll you've been
Speaker 1: doing maximizing efficiency. That was great. It out now, even
Speaker 1: though like because there's a weird time travel thing happening here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be out now. If it's not, i'll cut this.
Speaker 1: Releases will be out now. You guys are filming the
Speaker 1: final parts tomorrow Thursday. Yep, you're filming the final parts
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Whatever is going to my it'll probably will
Speaker 1: have it all around. It'll be at my Instagram at
Speaker 1: Steve in Ranella Time Live Treasury Music. Speaking of Christmas, uh,
Speaker 1: in a lot of places, it's cold at Christmas. And
Speaker 1: the guy Rode in um Point had an interesting thing
Speaker 1: to point out and I thought about this the r
Speaker 1: day uh in the wintertime, and how do not be
Speaker 1: a surface shitter in the winter? I was thinking about
Speaker 1: this recently, but then where I dug down? I went
Speaker 1: up kicking down a hole through the snow and dug
Speaker 1: down when I was down into pine duff, which is
Speaker 1: totally fine in the winter, but not everybody has that
Speaker 1: luxury ground is frozen. How do you not be the
Speaker 1: surface shitter? Find a rock rocks frozen in m hmm,
Speaker 1: not all okay, check around, fight it off for a
Speaker 1: few hours, try to hold her off, but a real answer.
Speaker 1: Come on, What do you guys think about on the
Speaker 1: ice though? When you're ice fishing? I see all the
Speaker 1: time where people try to they drill a hole, lay
Speaker 1: a deuce in there, but they can't get it. It
Speaker 1: just is in the hole. Then it just freezes in
Speaker 1: the surface of the hole because you gotta figure out
Speaker 1: how you're gonna get it over, down and over. That's
Speaker 1: a shitty fishing spot. It's kind of like you gotta
Speaker 1: sink the cake like you do when you're cutting up.
Speaker 1: They're not easy to do. It kind of goes against
Speaker 1: the spirit of not polluting water sources too, even if
Speaker 1: even if you do get it, because you're not even
Speaker 1: talking about going by a lake. You're talking about like
Speaker 1: going in the lake. I'll point out I've never actually
Speaker 1: done that. I always go, always go out towards shore.
Speaker 1: I've had to not towards shore. On shore. When you're
Speaker 1: out on like Lake Winnebago or some way out there,
Speaker 1: you guys go into the hole. Well, I drill a
Speaker 1: whole halfway through and just just get a little bit
Speaker 1: of water coming up so it'll freeze because you can
Speaker 1: like poke the bottom of your auger so they're still slush.
Speaker 1: Then it freezes over it's still you know, kind of
Speaker 1: sucks because when you get a lot of people out there,
Speaker 1: think about all the people pooping on the surface of
Speaker 1: the ice, and then you're drilling holes into someone's frozen
Speaker 1: turn one's going to re tap your whole. I'm never
Speaker 1: going swimming in Lake Winnebago technique like pooping from the video,
Speaker 1: like pooping in the ziplock bag. And then if you're
Speaker 1: an ice shandy like and it's cold, it might freeze,
Speaker 1: but that's you knowing the problem that advice is. It's
Speaker 1: great advice, but people aren't going to do that why
Speaker 1: not they're people don't. It's like the same way when
Speaker 1: you go to an area where like river, certain river stretches,
Speaker 1: monument stretches, you're not a lot You're supposed to bring
Speaker 1: your poop out and you go there and it's just
Speaker 1: bombed with poop, like a lot of people are going
Speaker 1: to do it. It's great advice, but you also it's
Speaker 1: like a little bit look at, like what are people
Speaker 1: really going to do? And I think that for most
Speaker 1: ice fishermen. For you to suggest that most ice most
Speaker 1: ice fishermen bag it and haul it out is I
Speaker 1: feel it's great, but I think it's unrealistic. Well, they
Speaker 1: carry coolers out there. You can just have Well that's
Speaker 1: what I was going to say, you could you could
Speaker 1: bring one of those bucket shitters that they use on
Speaker 1: river trips. You know, I didn't know, but I personally
Speaker 1: have a very close friend who just has one in
Speaker 1: his truck because he'd rather go that route then pull
Speaker 1: off the side of the road and run into the
Speaker 1: woods and deal with digging a hole and flipping a rock.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I just got a bucket back here
Speaker 1: ship in his bag And the next time I'm stopped
Speaker 1: by to see a dumpster. There it goes, and so
Speaker 1: I hear what I feel that he has a control problem.
Speaker 1: He is I think, like a lot of people, a
Speaker 1: person that certainly deficates more than once or twice a day,
Speaker 1: you know, especially, you know, it's just it's a thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty normal these days in the United States.
Speaker 1: But I I'm shaking up by how genius Chester's idea
Speaker 1: I'd call vaulting one. Yeah, you got eighteen in ice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but hear me out, you got eighteen inches ice. Hear
Speaker 1: me out listening. You're not giving me time because this
Speaker 1: this is gonna I'm gonna verge into microbiology here, and
Speaker 1: perhaps a microbiologist can write us in. You got eighteen
Speaker 1: inches ice, you tap down fifteen inches and make a vault. Okay,
Speaker 1: get all that shavings out of there. Okay, defecate. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, if you guys know that word defecate down
Speaker 1: in there, then pack the shavings back down on her.
Speaker 1: You vaulted, because I feel as though in that extreme scenario,
Speaker 1: the microbes won't last. It's a death sentence. Maybe so,
Speaker 1: but we need to confirm with a bona fide what
Speaker 1: is that stuff carbonite carbonite or get a block carbonite.
Speaker 1: I still think a buckets a better option than Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I hadn't thought of that. Just something about it
Speaker 1: seems so tidy, like like if you did what if
Speaker 1: you did a hole and then and then ice caked it,
Speaker 1: you kind of be thinking about under view looking up,
Speaker 1: and it's like later that night, laying in bed, you'd
Speaker 1: be thinking about what you did if you vaulted one,
Speaker 1: like I'm talking about with this half hole situation, laying
Speaker 1: in bed at night, you feel that that was a
Speaker 1: tidy little remedy. Okay, but let's say you do that.
Speaker 1: Let's do that like no one's gonna find it. Let's
Speaker 1: say you do that March first, and the ice starts
Speaker 1: to rot the third week of March, but you know
Speaker 1: it's still fishable when you're out there. And I had
Speaker 1: to hear from microL No, but I'm saying that that
Speaker 1: stuff would slowly start becoming exposed. And there's three Ronella
Speaker 1: kids running around and they're like, no, they always somehow
Speaker 1: end up in all. I think I think there is
Speaker 1: I think there is a better option with the bucket
Speaker 1: or something, But sometimes like you just gotta go and
Speaker 1: the last thing that you should do is go on
Speaker 1: top of the ice because then your you see on
Speaker 1: Lake Winnebago, you'll see tepee flying across the ice all
Speaker 1: the time because there's that many people out there. But
Speaker 1: I think I think it would be hard pressed to
Speaker 1: get somebody to do the zip block or the bucket.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times when you're dealing with ethics questions,
Speaker 1: it comes out to it's like, um, I love them,
Speaker 1: but it's like what should you do? Yes, you should
Speaker 1: have a bucket with the banks. You can go down
Speaker 1: to sportsman's warehouse any sporting goods stole or and who
Speaker 1: even makes that bucket? Oh, you can find them any
Speaker 1: I mean it's a coon snap on toilet lid, on anything,
Speaker 1: fallon bucket with a little with a little snap on
Speaker 1: toilet lid, a little bag. It's like a gray heavy
Speaker 1: duty garbage bag zip lock and it's got a magical
Speaker 1: powder in it. And look like, yeah, it's inconvenient, but
Speaker 1: it's worth being inconvenient. Like like, I don't think we
Speaker 1: should be making excuses because like, oh wow, you know
Speaker 1: it's hard to poop in a bucket like bucket, bring
Speaker 1: a bucket. I don't think we should be giving people
Speaker 1: an out. Flipping Jake's flipping Jake's flip Jake's it docks,
Speaker 1: slip on it pist. He says, we're catching his fish.
Speaker 1: It's public water. It's for every one. Go ahead and
Speaker 1: call the game warden up. Flipping Jake's flipping jigs, flip
Speaker 1: jigs at ducks with large mouth They high and the
Speaker 1: bait fish swim by, lunkers and shadows suspended on logs.
Speaker 1: Fill the live oh with hogs. What kind of fish
Speaker 1: will barely fight while they are? The fish that will
Speaker 1: barely fight? What kind of fish are over hyped while
Speaker 1: they are? The fish that are over hyped, over hyped,
Speaker 1: barely fight? Must be waly, must be waal line must
Speaker 1: be waly. Those wet sauce Brodie. When you go ice fishing,
Speaker 1: though right now, you probably don't bring a bucket. No,
Speaker 1: we go to the shore. We go to shore. Small
Speaker 1: enough lakes, well, big lakes, we go to shore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean if I it would like I'm carrying
Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff, carrying a bucket and say
Speaker 1: ice fishroman have a bucket? Chester, I was ice fishing
Speaker 1: when you were a glint in your mama's eye. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something never shed on the ice. That's
Speaker 1: impressive ever, But you're thinking about shipping in it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Chester turned me out that idea. I don't like going
Speaker 1: on the ice, but there's been a couple of occasions
Speaker 1: when you just gotta go, So grab the auger right
Speaker 1: and going on top and do that. Yeah, Like, let's
Speaker 1: say you put it like this. Let's say someone came
Speaker 1: to Let's say a godlike figure came down and said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you better go. You better defecate on the
Speaker 1: ice right now. In that situation, I think vaulting it
Speaker 1: is better than surface and definitely you'd be like, let
Speaker 1: me get this clear there in the ice. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite story in the Old Testaments. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: encourage large scale, good outdoor pooping. You guys know, Okay,
Speaker 1: we've you know it's appropriate. Okay, it's weird. I was
Speaker 1: gonna make a joke. I shouldn't have made. Deuteronomy. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've covered this on the podcast. We're gonna recover it.
Speaker 1: Deuteronomy three twelve to fourteen from the Good Book. This
Speaker 1: is not a joke. Deuteronomy twelve to fourteen in the
Speaker 1: Good Book. You shall also, in quoting from the Bible,
Speaker 1: you shall also have a place outside the camp, and
Speaker 1: go out there, and you shall have a spade among
Speaker 1: your tools, and it shall be when you sit down outside,
Speaker 1: you shall dig with it, and shall turn to cover
Speaker 1: up your excrement. Since the Lord your God walks in
Speaker 1: the midst of your camp to deliver you and to
Speaker 1: defeat your enemies before you there, for your camp must
Speaker 1: be holy, and he must not see anything indecent among you,
Speaker 1: or he will turn away from you. Final word, Huh,
Speaker 1: it gives me all kinds. No, it doesn't give me
Speaker 1: the chills. What's it give me? Then? Just come on.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's time for this, but it
Speaker 1: just seems to me that, like, man, that'd be a
Speaker 1: good thing for a dude to write in a book
Speaker 1: if he wanted to keep the masses clean and tidy
Speaker 1: with rules of all sorts of things. So not he,
Speaker 1: So you're saying one of the authors, one of the
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm just gonna throw in here
Speaker 1: because it drives me crazy. Well, yeah, and not only
Speaker 1: does it drive you crazy, but it kills a lot
Speaker 1: of people, makes a lot of people sick. In general,
Speaker 1: these people are a bunch of you know, dirty whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what are you saying? No, what I
Speaker 1: was adding to the notes. Okay, so Chester mentioned t P,
Speaker 1: and I was wondering, Well, so I think I've discovered
Speaker 1: a hot tip. A hot tip on not needing toilet
Speaker 1: paper which might help you know things is silium fiber,
Speaker 1: which is a soluble fiber that comes in meta musil.
Speaker 1: But if you actually buy like a whole container of
Speaker 1: raw cilium fiber and you take much more than is necessary,
Speaker 1: your poop will come out kind of like halfway between
Speaker 1: jello and like a sausage casing, and you will probably
Speaker 1: not need TP. I wonder no side effects, no side
Speaker 1: effects at all. It's like a natural It's just like
Speaker 1: a natural soluble fiber, and it will it absorbs water
Speaker 1: so it comes out. Yeah, it really does case her up.
Speaker 1: So for example, like I've given it to my dog, uh,
Speaker 1: like he has he is diarrhea for example, right, so
Speaker 1: he's like maybe no, no, no, just like he you know,
Speaker 1: let's say he had diarrhea, and so it might like
Speaker 1: be coming out real watery if I give him a
Speaker 1: lot of cilium fiber, and he like happens to have
Speaker 1: an accident inside the house, it comes out like a
Speaker 1: soft geled in case sausage and I can just pick
Speaker 1: the holding up in discard. That is that just like
Speaker 1: is that fiber? Yeah, it's it's it's it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how to describe it. Okay, So chia seeds,
Speaker 1: if you've ever had chia seeds soaking in water, they
Speaker 1: become so your your poop will come out like that.
Speaker 1: So would you ever be so concerned, like, would you
Speaker 1: ever do that to make your backwoods clean up? I've
Speaker 1: totally done it. It's great. That's another thing that the
Speaker 1: masses are going to do. Like I'm not like I
Speaker 1: need a dozen ways. If I promise, it's like the
Speaker 1: guy checking out and says, going ice for sure, I promise.
Speaker 1: Especially it is life changing. It is life changing, guys.
Speaker 1: I do order it on Amazon or get it from
Speaker 1: your health foods. Tell me the name of it, Sillium
Speaker 1: fiber ps P S y L I S. You just go,
Speaker 1: you pick up put in your pocket, no toilet paper.
Speaker 1: Is this like it I'm saying, But when you go,
Speaker 1: you just I put a bunch of table spoons or
Speaker 1: kind of like a half cup or more in a
Speaker 1: little zip lock bag, and it's kind of tasteless if
Speaker 1: you need to like chug water or a beverage with
Speaker 1: it really quickly. If you wait for I don't know,
Speaker 1: a minute or two, the if that mix with the
Speaker 1: liquid will like jellify, so you want to get it
Speaker 1: down quickly or else it will be difficult to like
Speaker 1: consume consuming. Is this like a thing like do like
Speaker 1: through through hikers? Is it a thing? Not that I know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm seriously, man, we should put like a medical disclaimer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Once time we were talking about one time I joked
Speaker 1: about how I joked about how Doug during was the
Speaker 1: one that transferred COVID deer through Buckman juice, and then
Speaker 1: we got a warning. We got like a COVID misinformation
Speaker 1: warning that it's just like some some like AI thing
Speaker 1: was like COVID deer. P Yeah, let put the warning up.
Speaker 1: I do want to say one thing that this whole
Speaker 1: conversation brought up to me though, that I never thought
Speaker 1: about too much before. Was there there's twelve thousand people
Speaker 1: on the ice. I'm like Winnebago for open for sturgeon spearing.
Speaker 1: So that's like a serious thing, Like how much of
Speaker 1: an impact liked pH dukes per hour? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: what Like, let's say you take half for those you
Speaker 1: know it's multiple days. Let's say half of those people
Speaker 1: have to go not anywhere near that. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: like this. You put ten people on okay, ten people
Speaker 1: on the ice, ten people go ice fishing. So now
Speaker 1: you gotta figure they're not all doing a twelve hour jig, right,
Speaker 1: some are gonna be doing a one hour jig. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing a twelve hour jig. So ten people,
Speaker 1: and then you've got an average out that they're all
Speaker 1: good for a five hour jig. Let's say, on average,
Speaker 1: how many of those people are going to drop a
Speaker 1: deuce that day? I think one? I think one. Because
Speaker 1: this conversations has me thinking about since I don't go
Speaker 1: on the ice, I'm like, have I spent my whole
Speaker 1: life holding it back on the ice, But I haven't
Speaker 1: to be like two thousand poops to day and like
Speaker 1: Wuinnebago ppds, Yeah, two pvds. Yeah, but a lot of
Speaker 1: those guys are in shacks, right, they probably have little
Speaker 1: So remove remove the one of them that has a toilet.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, like those those shacks, they
Speaker 1: have holes in the floor that are you Typically a
Speaker 1: majority of the hole in your floor is a big
Speaker 1: cutout in the ice. You think they're you think they're
Speaker 1: sinking the cake on them. I bet summer sinking the
Speaker 1: cake in the hole. But it's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: how how thick is. I bet it's hard to get
Speaker 1: it turns. Any fetish is to go down there with,
Speaker 1: it's hard to get it turned down the ice sometimes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it depends if you got a floater or a sinker.
Speaker 1: You can adjust that with diet too, though, let's move
Speaker 1: on thin ice. Fishermen are very diet. This is my
Speaker 1: favorite new dynamic is Steve being really curious about like
Speaker 1: fetish stuff and Yanni being very uncomfortable because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm bored. It might be like skunk smells her first. Anyways,
Speaker 1: moving on, a lot of friendly Christmas, A lot to unpack.
Speaker 1: It's something to think about. It's a lot to unpack.
Speaker 1: Their nose today. Just leave the cleanex in the middle
Speaker 1: of the table. I'll clean up. Wink wink, I got you.
Speaker 1: It's a lot to think about. Um. Great question from
Speaker 1: a listener, if you got a question right in. Um,
Speaker 1: that was quite inconclusive, but it sounds like everybody needs
Speaker 1: to get some of them bags, come brody bags. I
Speaker 1: was gonna add the reason I got to thinking about
Speaker 1: it and I mentioned it to current is because I
Speaker 1: was out of the day deer hunting in very cold
Speaker 1: conditions in the snow, and I got to the point
Speaker 1: I was saying, man, I'm just it's gonna have to happen.
Speaker 1: I did the same thing you did. I went beneath
Speaker 1: the snow, didn't find pine stuff, but found ground that
Speaker 1: was not frozen insulated by the snow, and and it
Speaker 1: was pretty much like it could have been September. And
Speaker 1: I was taking care of business. No big deal, that's great,
Speaker 1: good job. Thanks. Yeah. I'll share one little thing I know.
Speaker 1: This is this is like this is like if you're
Speaker 1: at a deer camp or like we're gonna you're somewhere
Speaker 1: for an extended period of time, dig a hole that
Speaker 1: is big enough for the whole week. Ye, your own
Speaker 1: private hole. Oh yeah, I encourage people to do that.
Speaker 1: I dug down through the snow. It was like tim
Speaker 1: blow at night. It was cold, but dug down through
Speaker 1: the snow dug a hole for the week. I didn't
Speaker 1: have to worry about trying to dig holes, you know,
Speaker 1: in other places all throughout the week. It just y,
Speaker 1: I've done that and then put a cap rock on
Speaker 1: top of it. Yeah, well, I the the big plug
Speaker 1: I pulled out from my hole frozen like frozen. Then
Speaker 1: I just said that back on top when I left
Speaker 1: holding it was actually one of the most convenient things
Speaker 1: I've done in a while. Uh, we were hunting in
Speaker 1: eastern Montana. This is gonna wrap her up, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I held it for a day. I went to stop
Speaker 1: at a campsite and uh and use one of the
Speaker 1: toilets there, and uh, there was a c w D
Speaker 1: check right there, so we got my girlfriend's dear tested. Well,
Speaker 1: I went used the bathroom. That's great. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: pretty good. Cold weather, hot TiO ready to talk about
Speaker 1: I think we got that covered. Grab a bucket. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a segue. I got a segue.
Speaker 1: There's a thing called a Latvian plug. It's the thing
Speaker 1: that I have in the Latvians. And he's Lavian as
Speaker 1: our windows Chester and Lavian's. We'll find sometimes that when
Speaker 1: they're on the road traveling. Uh, they'll they'll form a
Speaker 1: plug and it'll take him a couple of days to
Speaker 1: get sorted out. It's called the Lavian plug named are
Speaker 1: you honest? Nice um? As as we we've explored honest Lavian.
Speaker 1: He was taught to speak Latvian, he went to Latvian school,
Speaker 1: he went to Lavian summer camp. The only thing he
Speaker 1: didn't do, let's go to Lavia until until he just
Speaker 1: went to Lavia and of all things, hunting in Latvia.
Speaker 1: After I met you, honest, I to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I wasn't If you'd have had me to list a
Speaker 1: bunch of list all the countries I could think of,
Speaker 1: I would have gotten way down the page. I don't
Speaker 1: think I would have thought to put Latvia down before
Speaker 1: we met. And not long after we met, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at a newspaper and I see about a bunch of
Speaker 1: Lavia and ice fishermen strained it out in the ocean
Speaker 1: because they were fishing in the bay, in the whole bay,
Speaker 1: the whole bays where the ice floated out into the ocean.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, so this is a place.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if we've increased the world's uh
Speaker 1: not knowledge, just uh yeah, awareness of Latvia by like
Speaker 1: a considerable percentage, just through this podcast. Because still half
Speaker 1: the people I think I talked to her if I
Speaker 1: said I went to Latvia, they're like, huh, where's that?
Speaker 1: Never you know, like seriously never heard of the country.
Speaker 1: But now that they know the Lavian eagle, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: at least ten more people when you went to Lavia.
Speaker 1: Did they know that you're the Lavian eagle? Or they
Speaker 1: just think you're the eagle Via? Oh I should know
Speaker 1: the answer to that. Probably golden eagles, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, yeah, they're They're a circums polar species, aren't
Speaker 1: they Like Golden's The other day the day I saw
Speaker 1: my first stuffed golden eagle and I said, I love
Speaker 1: you supposed to have that? And he goes, trust me, listen,
Speaker 1: everybody brings it up. It's very old, and here's on
Speaker 1: he'd heard all about it. So yeah, it's like you
Speaker 1: go to shoes, sushi joint, and sushi joint and you say,
Speaker 1: have you ever seen that movie Hero Dreams of Sushi?
Speaker 1: And they're like, dude, lady sixth types of eagles in Latvia?
Speaker 1: Thanks Chester. Ye. So yeah, the way that my contact
Speaker 1: my host there, Lynda, Um, she how did you find Linda?
Speaker 1: Come on? Now? Linda found me actually through Meteor watching
Speaker 1: Mediator on Netflix. And then I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was an episode that I might have been a guest
Speaker 1: on or she saw my name in the credits. She's like,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. That name looks pretty Latvian, you know, and
Speaker 1: she came and then she continued to watch. It was
Speaker 1: like he's got to be and then she reached out
Speaker 1: and said what, um, just love the show and do
Speaker 1: you want to come on my podcast? She has a podcast, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the only hunting podcast in the Latvian language. Seriously, so
Speaker 1: that would up being But but you have family there
Speaker 1: and stuff, yeah, like second cousin type family. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: this and enough that when I was there on my
Speaker 1: first trip to Latvia, I did not visit them. Probably
Speaker 1: here about it when I go back and do visit them.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I was actually advised not to because um,
Speaker 1: not just my family in particular, but generally families that
Speaker 1: mean generally people and they have um foreigners that our
Speaker 1: family come over, they really want to show him a
Speaker 1: good time, really want to give him a tour of
Speaker 1: Latvia and sounds like they will schedule your whole trip
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna have a lot of extra time.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't really have that, you know, because we're
Speaker 1: really working for most of the time I was there.
Speaker 1: What what did you find Latvian hunting culture to be?
Speaker 1: M hmm, let me a hunting culture. Let me think
Speaker 1: of another. Let me think another way of asking it.
Speaker 1: Focus that question a little bit more. Um, is it
Speaker 1: is it fringe not well understood, you know, a few
Speaker 1: people off in the boonies or is it or is
Speaker 1: it like very well? Is it very woven into the culture? Um?
Speaker 1: I'd say it's probably similar percentage wise, is to to hear.
Speaker 1: I think those are approximately twenty hunters in Latvia and
Speaker 1: there's about a million UM six hundred thousand inhabitants. UM
Speaker 1: thousand is to one point SIXD is the one point
Speaker 1: six million as X is to one UM. No. I
Speaker 1: could figure that ship off. I had like a pennant
Speaker 1: paper and a calculator. It's woven into the culture enough
Speaker 1: that they're uh, there's some anti hunting movement, yeah, a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, Um there tell people where Levy
Speaker 1: is that's try to smart. That's a good place to start.
Speaker 1: It's on the Baltic Sea, which is yeah, point point
Speaker 1: oh one two one Okay. So so if like, if
Speaker 1: your numbers are right, it has the participation rate, I
Speaker 1: think participation rate better than New Jersey and California for
Speaker 1: hunting participation. There you go, there you go. Um, as
Speaker 1: you expect, more so out in the country than in
Speaker 1: the city when you're in the city. We had to
Speaker 1: drive out of the city to find a hunting store.
Speaker 1: My baggage got delayed big time, like three or four days,
Speaker 1: so I had I needed some clothes to hunting. So
Speaker 1: we went out to a hunting shop and uh, very
Speaker 1: well appointed hunting shop. Like when you go in there,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I can get kidded out, um and
Speaker 1: go do whatever I needed to go. Do you know
Speaker 1: hiking boots, rubber boots. I mean you know they had
Speaker 1: a full wall of hunting boots and all kinds of
Speaker 1: nice guns and fancy Yeah. Yeah, what's gun ownership? Like that? Tricky,
Speaker 1: very very tricky. For one, you gotta wait a lot
Speaker 1: longer age wise to own one that you do here,
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna not have the numbers exactly right, but
Speaker 1: it's approximately like eighteen years old only for smooth bore.
Speaker 1: Basically you can own a shotgun at that point. Rifle
Speaker 1: twenty one years of age. UM, so you can own one. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's annual or maybe bi annual
Speaker 1: psychologic um testing by the police. Yes, interviews like go in,
Speaker 1: sit down to have an interview with a cop and
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, you're cool. You can still continue to
Speaker 1: own guns. Um. Yeah, lots lots more paperwork, just's a
Speaker 1: lot more waiting time processing. Um. There's another uh, federal agency.
Speaker 1: You have to go through his well to have your
Speaker 1: to have basically the license to own weapons. Um. But
Speaker 1: you didn't have to do any of that interview stuff. No.
Speaker 1: I Basically I had to have a sponsor that said
Speaker 1: that while while he's using a weapon in Latvia, he'll
Speaker 1: be under my supervision. Um. And then I also had
Speaker 1: to prove that I had I own guns and that
Speaker 1: I used guns here in the States. So I came
Speaker 1: up with one of the forms that we all fill
Speaker 1: out it snays to get our guns transferred over one
Speaker 1: of those and then just a hunting license and that
Speaker 1: was enough. Do they do? They all your suppressors out there.
Speaker 1: I heard that that was a big thing in your
Speaker 1: most Yeah, like if here it seems like it's one
Speaker 1: and ten of us now have it where it was
Speaker 1: you know, zero and ten five years ago. There's the
Speaker 1: other way around. I think the only reason you wouldn't
Speaker 1: have one there is if you really can't afford it.
Speaker 1: Do they have like an equally like rigorous process to
Speaker 1: getting a suppressor, like similar to the gun or is
Speaker 1: it just like if you have a gun you can
Speaker 1: get a suppressor. Oh no, I think you can. It's
Speaker 1: like the reverse, Like you're gonna go into seven eleven
Speaker 1: and by a suppressor, but it's gonna take you a
Speaker 1: lot of time to get to get a rifle. What all?
Speaker 1: What all are they hunting there? Uh? What critters they hunting?
Speaker 1: I was when I kind of know the answer is
Speaker 1: surprised because there's like a there's like analogies here, like
Speaker 1: just like they're hunting stuffers like a there's similar stuff here,
Speaker 1: but they got they got They hunt like a moose,
Speaker 1: not our moose. But it's a moose, that's right. It's
Speaker 1: a moose, much smaller, much less paddled moose. Like a
Speaker 1: lot of their antlers would just be like five times
Speaker 1: kind of sticking out in different directions on each side,
Speaker 1: like without a paddle whatsoever. Um, the red deer, you
Speaker 1: might think, all, it's a red stag, but I think
Speaker 1: it's actually a red deer. The mail as a stag
Speaker 1: emails behind and Latvia they actually called him bowls and
Speaker 1: cows for some reason. Yeah, what's the word for that? Bull?
Speaker 1: Lis'sen on mat mat is like saying mother, you know,
Speaker 1: or female? Um, when you did the podcast, did you
Speaker 1: do it in Latvia? I did? Yeah? Was that hard?
Speaker 1: You know? It's interesting. Um. I got a lot of
Speaker 1: compliments when I was in Latvia because they would be
Speaker 1: amazed at number one, it took me forty four years
Speaker 1: to get over there for a visit, and then number
Speaker 1: two that I had kept out the language so abll
Speaker 1: so well. So I got a lot of compliments on
Speaker 1: on how good my language was. But it's always funny
Speaker 1: to me because I did a podcast, did as best
Speaker 1: I could in the Latvian language, and then I called
Speaker 1: my dad and the first thing he says is, hey,
Speaker 1: I listened to the podcast you did with Linda. You
Speaker 1: really need to work on your labvia the reason why
Speaker 1: you keep up on your Latvian is because you talked
Speaker 1: to your your dad in Latvian a lot. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was an interesting thing about me and Latvia is
Speaker 1: that here I speak to my mom, my dad used
Speaker 1: to be my grandmother every time you're on the phone
Speaker 1: with you all the time. Uh, my siblings, Uh, pretty limited.
Speaker 1: And then like Latvian deer camp for three days, I
Speaker 1: can I speak, you know, to all those guys in Latvia.
Speaker 1: I can always tell what they're talking about when they're
Speaker 1: talking to laughing when I'm listening, because there are certain America's,
Speaker 1: like totally American words that just don't work, and so
Speaker 1: you'll catch the words and you kind of know what's
Speaker 1: you won't know what's going on, but you'll know what
Speaker 1: they're talking about. You know. It's interesting Latvia that's even happened.
Speaker 1: I would in my mind even more than it has here.
Speaker 1: Like you could ask Joe and Tyler and Jason that
Speaker 1: we're over there with me, they would actually pick up
Speaker 1: like that one words too, because like I call a
Speaker 1: gym a v which is like what the people in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty called that, because right, that's when my family
Speaker 1: left the country and that sort of old Latvian was
Speaker 1: what I grew up on. Well the you know, million
Speaker 1: plus people on that yet it's kept changing the language. Right,
Speaker 1: So in Latvia they call it Jim fitness clips, no job,
Speaker 1: Like on the side it says fitness clips and you
Speaker 1: drive by, You're like, God, I wasn't mistake I back
Speaker 1: and going there and work out. You're like one of
Speaker 1: the chances they'd have that same word. Yeah, yeah, Like
Speaker 1: like computer is uh dot doors is what I grew
Speaker 1: up with, and there they say computers. You know, just
Speaker 1: the way language changes. When I when I was in college,
Speaker 1: I had to take a class called the Structure of
Speaker 1: Modern English and uh this we read this thing from
Speaker 1: some linguists that was saying, had you gone, had you
Speaker 1: gone along the Mason Dixon Line at the end of
Speaker 1: the Civil War and somehow eliminated contact between the North
Speaker 1: and the South at the end of the Civil War
Speaker 1: along the Mason Dixon line, at this point you would
Speaker 1: not be able to communicate. Mm hmm. It doesn't take long,
Speaker 1: just because the drift, the normal drift, and then and
Speaker 1: then the way you're constantly adding words of vocabulary because
Speaker 1: right right, like that's pre automobile, right, So you imagine
Speaker 1: all these areas where it would just be like you
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, you wouldn't know. So the fact that
Speaker 1: you guys sort of took a version of Latvia to
Speaker 1: the US and then mess with it for seventy years
Speaker 1: without a ton of fresh input that you that your
Speaker 1: that your habits and you know, with drift as new
Speaker 1: terminology emerged where Levy is, oh, yeah, we didn't get
Speaker 1: on that. It's it's we got stuck on the percentage
Speaker 1: of hunters and Latvia. Ah, it's on the Baltic Sea, um,
Speaker 1: which is if you imagine Europe, it's sort of sits
Speaker 1: in the in the northern part of Europe on the
Speaker 1: Baltic Sea. You also have the southern tips of Norway
Speaker 1: and Sweden, and then you have the three Baltic countries
Speaker 1: on the east side of the Baltic Sea Estonia, Latvia
Speaker 1: in Lithuania, and then to the south of Rthuenia you'd
Speaker 1: have Poland, and then that goes down into Germany and
Speaker 1: the main mass of Europe, and then so directly to
Speaker 1: our east as Russia. We share a border with Russia,
Speaker 1: and you guys mix it up with Russia. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we've tried over the years. Uh yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: you could say we've mixed it up, has not been good.
Speaker 1: Is Finland above you or yeah? To the north, to
Speaker 1: the north, and you hunted crazy moose. Yeah, so they're
Speaker 1: in the moose, they're in the red deer are native, Yes,
Speaker 1: pigs are native. Pigs are native, red deer native is
Speaker 1: native um and then the road deer is also native.
Speaker 1: What's the non natives over there? The raccoon dogs seth, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got one of those, right, And they say the
Speaker 1: Russians brought him in, So I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if it came from China last night. But it was
Speaker 1: interesting because I talked a lot about the raccoon dog
Speaker 1: prior to going because I thought it was interesting. It
Speaker 1: was like an animal that we don't have here. And
Speaker 1: sure enough, that's the only animal ended up shooting was
Speaker 1: a raccoon dog. And the hunters there told me that
Speaker 1: was because the hunting goddess Diana had said it was
Speaker 1: going to be so nothing you're gonna do about it, no,
Speaker 1: And at first when they would bring up when they
Speaker 1: would bring up Diana, at first, I was like, oh, yeah, Diana,
Speaker 1: good luck to you to go hunting, you know. But
Speaker 1: then things would happen and they'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: seeing Diana just said it wasn't meant to be today,
Speaker 1: you know, and we'd be like, okay, I guess we'll
Speaker 1: want you know, red stack again tomorrow. And it just
Speaker 1: kept coming up, and finally I was like, man, you
Speaker 1: guys take this like Diana gal seriously and they're like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen without her blessing. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: like very very serious about Diana, like being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's your day to kill the red stack, like very
Speaker 1: much part of their hunting culture. That is, like so
Speaker 1: I don't even talking about another crazy thing, the death wind. No,
Speaker 1: that's lou Wetzel. When you answer seth question and talk
Speaker 1: about the wind through through Wind with Diana, Like how
Speaker 1: like do they don't go out knowing that day that
Speaker 1: like Diana is gonna bless him. No, but don't have
Speaker 1: don't just have like like sayings like good luck and
Speaker 1: you know, my Diana be with you, and but if
Speaker 1: things go to ship afterwards, now you know like well
Speaker 1: now we know that she wasn't down. Yeah, like and
Speaker 1: it's so funny how you can manifest this stuff, right,
Speaker 1: because with this raccoon dog, I'm using a gun that's
Speaker 1: not mine because unfortunately they explain one of those a
Speaker 1: little bit. How big was the one you got? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean they literally on the size of her raccoon,
Speaker 1: just a lot fluffier. It's like a raccoon in a
Speaker 1: fox had a baby. Um. They're a past they're you know,
Speaker 1: non native, kind of eat everything out, you know people.
Speaker 1: Really it's kind of like the pig if you're like, well,
Speaker 1: do you really want them gone? And they're like no,
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of like having a few raccoon
Speaker 1: dogs around trees. I don't think they do. I don't
Speaker 1: think they climb trees. They are a canine species, so
Speaker 1: they've got feet like a fox. Um. But we're actually
Speaker 1: sitting in the dark hunting pigs over bait in a
Speaker 1: blind on the evening. That was the kind of evening
Speaker 1: you can hear it twig snap two yards away, I
Speaker 1: mean just still as could be, so you couldn't really
Speaker 1: talk because it was so quiet, you know, because the
Speaker 1: pig bait it's only like fifty yards away, and this
Speaker 1: is at night at night. With them, what they have
Speaker 1: out for hog bait. I think it was a mix
Speaker 1: of corn and apples. What was out there? Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: I haven't done much night I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I've done any night hunt. No, that's not true. We
Speaker 1: did a little bit in text night Hunted with You
Speaker 1: in Florida, of night Hunted with You in Texas and
Speaker 1: in the Jungles night Hunted with and alright, but now
Speaker 1: particularly like this using thermals. That's another thing we should
Speaker 1: get into is how prevalent the thermal use it. I
Speaker 1: want to get to that too, because that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: But they yeah, lion, it's of a bit. Uh. So
Speaker 1: I'm using a rifle. It's not mine because my rifles
Speaker 1: didn't get there in time. Unfortunately. It was like an
Speaker 1: eight month process and we did everything possible and we
Speaker 1: literally got the rifles. Wow, I still in Latvia, but
Speaker 1: after we were done hunting. So I'm using Linda's rifle.
Speaker 1: It's like a seven mag pretty big rifle for shooting
Speaker 1: a raccoon. You've got to suppress her on it. We're
Speaker 1: in the stand. I don't know, maybe not quite. Uh,
Speaker 1: just a small little chunk of private um. It was
Speaker 1: part of the hunting club that we have success to.
Speaker 1: You know, I should know this this number for you
Speaker 1: if you want to get into that very quickly. I
Speaker 1: can try to sum it up. The way these hunting
Speaker 1: clubs work is bigger or smaller than Doug Durn's. I
Speaker 1: don't actually know where once private property might have started
Speaker 1: and when the one ended in the next one started.
Speaker 1: There was so much land that there's I don't think
Speaker 1: you can walk at all in a week of walking
Speaker 1: to go through all the properties, different parcels here and
Speaker 1: there exactly. And one hunting club has it's up to
Speaker 1: them to make leases or deals or handshake agreements with
Speaker 1: all of the private properties within their zone that they're
Speaker 1: given by the federal government to operate their hunting club.
Speaker 1: The wow, yeah, So like your hunting club is Gallatin County,
Speaker 1: that's right, And then you gotta go like, okay, sweet, no,
Speaker 1: I gotta go talk to everybody in Gallanton County. The
Speaker 1: state and federal land are pretty much automatically going to
Speaker 1: be part and you play like a small lease to
Speaker 1: to work on those everybody else. And what's interesting is
Speaker 1: you have to make it contiguous, so you can't have
Speaker 1: too many you can't I forget what the distance was,
Speaker 1: if it was fifty hundred fifty between two. But you
Speaker 1: couldn't just have like, well we got a giant four
Speaker 1: one down here, and then a mile up the road
Speaker 1: we got another one. No, they've got to be continuous.
Speaker 1: So this one hunting club that I hunted with, and
Speaker 1: that's coming from the government. Yeah, I mean no, they
Speaker 1: have a They the hunters complained a lot about how
Speaker 1: the government makes rules completely unknowingly, you know, for no reason.
Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything for them, and the hunters, you know,
Speaker 1: are saying, we should be trying to we they try
Speaker 1: to inform them, help them make better rules, and you
Speaker 1: know they're working on it's a work in progress. Ah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this particular hunting club had four hundred separate
Speaker 1: agreements with separate landowners. Well what but we did it.
Speaker 1: We did a drive where I was walking for over
Speaker 1: an hour from one road to another. M so giant
Speaker 1: you know, track to land egg land mixed like northern Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: northern Minnesota where it gets a little bit more sprucy
Speaker 1: and birche and swampy. You could pluck yourself out of
Speaker 1: atvia and get dropped in those places or swap places,
Speaker 1: and you want to know the difference. Very much cut
Speaker 1: up like fifty fift A lot of forestry, so a
Speaker 1: lot of like successional growth that you see around. Um,
Speaker 1: there's they're cutting a lot. Drunk guys drinking old fashions.
Speaker 1: M hmm. I didn't see too much of that Wisconsin
Speaker 1: and that we're not. Was just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how how like Wisconsin just the landscape landscape UM as
Speaker 1: a drink at straps roasting on an open fine pack frame,
Speaker 1: strapped with heavy loads, mule deer bucks pushed down from
Speaker 1: much higher and folks in blaze orange heavy clothes. Everybody
Speaker 1: knows a cold snap and some steady snow. We'll make
Speaker 1: them mule deer hunting. Prime broadcast guys with their eyes
Speaker 1: all aglow will dream of heavy tips. Tonight rushed the lines.
Speaker 1: La la la la la la la. He's coming in
Speaker 1: waves involved. He's la la la la la la la down.
Speaker 1: We now firstlide apparel falla la la la la la
Speaker 1: la la cut them down with blasting barrels. La la
Speaker 1: la la la la. Set the scene for me a
Speaker 1: little bit too. So you're on the parcel, you're in
Speaker 1: a timbered section and they got an established bait or
Speaker 1: they just they just behind blind placed very established. This
Speaker 1: guy Cospars, who was my like Linda's kind of right
Speaker 1: hand man that hunted with me a lot for the
Speaker 1: red stag. He had basically carved out, I don't know,
Speaker 1: a ten foot long log that was two ft in
Speaker 1: diameter and made a trough huh, and literally had it
Speaker 1: placed up on you know, post on either end, so
Speaker 1: it's like an elevated trough that he could put the
Speaker 1: bait into. Wow. Yeah, if that was necessary better than
Speaker 1: just having a pile, I don't know, but he had
Speaker 1: that and it was you they're using trail camps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they used to pictures of hogs coming and he would
Speaker 1: just drive by the field. So basically behind us was
Speaker 1: a field and this was kind of into the brush
Speaker 1: and into the wood and there was a little clearing
Speaker 1: around the bait and he would drive by the uh,
Speaker 1: the field at night, run the thermal um. They do
Speaker 1: thermals like we do day scouting. Like still driving moving
Speaker 1: at night, ten mile looking through a thermal on a field,
Speaker 1: No big deal. Everybody's doing it. Just like yeah, there's
Speaker 1: critters there, there's not critters there. You know this cruising along.
Speaker 1: They'll use it in the daytime, like coming up on
Speaker 1: a place and you got like a block of forest
Speaker 1: ahead of you. I mean, I don't know how far
Speaker 1: thermal works into the woods, but we'd be looking across
Speaker 1: a small clearing that was maybe a hundred yards hundred
Speaker 1: fifty yards and then there'd be woods, and he glassed
Speaker 1: the trees and like, not nothing here, let's go right
Speaker 1: to Like, no, if there's creators, you know, in the
Speaker 1: in the area. And I was kind like, come on, guys,
Speaker 1: and I'd already told him are a fog that grizzly
Speaker 1: bear story. And They're like, well, what if you had
Speaker 1: had thermals in that situation when that had been nice
Speaker 1: to know that bear was in the area. And I
Speaker 1: was like, good point, good point, um sitting bait, sitting bait,
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, it was already after dark. We climbed
Speaker 1: in after dark. I think we've been hunting until dark
Speaker 1: for stags or something. And uh yeah, so I'm nodding off,
Speaker 1: super quiet. We're not talking. I'm nodding off every now
Speaker 1: and then we turn our thermal on, look through it,
Speaker 1: check the bait station, nothing there, turn it off. Then
Speaker 1: in the pitch black, complete darkness, I just hear Linda
Speaker 1: say Yann to Tuli Normandies took petermore. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, it's on she said. She said, Yanni, you're
Speaker 1: gonna kill your first raccoon dog. Oh man, I wanted
Speaker 1: to go out for candlelight dinner. Yeah, yeah, and us
Speaker 1: I turned on my thermal and there he is creeping
Speaker 1: around the bait pile, probably hunting the mice and whatever
Speaker 1: varmints and stuff that might have been, like he doesn't
Speaker 1: want the corn. Linda didn't think so so different from
Speaker 1: a raccoon in that way too, because just like it's
Speaker 1: a little canine. Yeah. So he just sits down on
Speaker 1: his haunches right next to the bait bay pile, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm getting its complete darkness. So I'm feeling around
Speaker 1: on a gun that I'm not familiar with, and uh,
Speaker 1: and that gun's got a thermal scope. Yeah, it's a Blazer.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you've used the Blazer, but
Speaker 1: they got a safety. That's it's the world right now
Speaker 1: for how safe it is. But you really got to
Speaker 1: like press and work it up. It's like a tank safety,
Speaker 1: you know that you work with your thumb the safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, but I think I click it off.
Speaker 1: I go to shoot. No often, right, I haven't clicked
Speaker 1: it off enough, so a little flustered. Finally get it off,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting like Linda's helping me, and finally
Speaker 1: we'd get the safety off and then I get a
Speaker 1: scope on it. But before scope is quite on it,
Speaker 1: I'm like god, and like totally totally miss him. It's
Speaker 1: back up what happened. I basically had the scope on him,
Speaker 1: and I'm putting my finger like into the trigger card,
Speaker 1: getting ready, you know, to get on it. And she's
Speaker 1: got a light trigger set up on that sucker. And
Speaker 1: I touched off a glove on No, no glove cheez, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, So I miss him. Well lucky did she
Speaker 1: say that? Well? It was she had a bay Old
Speaker 1: suppressor on that thing. And uh, luckily Diana was on
Speaker 1: my side that night. And that little sucker looks at
Speaker 1: the hole that I just say next to him, and
Speaker 1: he goes back to just sitting there. So I chambered
Speaker 1: another one and yeah, and I didn't remember, and so
Speaker 1: I shot him on the the third time I pulled
Speaker 1: the trigger second shot. Did you guys get any of
Speaker 1: this on footage? Like, did you guys have night vision?
Speaker 1: You know? The my scope had it and we ended
Speaker 1: up because we were doing so much fumbling around. We
Speaker 1: have roughly a second of the raccoon dog in the thermal,
Speaker 1: so we'll see and how much how many pounds do
Speaker 1: you we? Their metric over there? Yeah, so you shot
Speaker 1: a ten pound raccoon dog with a seven millimeter m meg. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty pretty big hole luckily with the way he was
Speaker 1: because they were planning on raccoon dogs. They were planning
Speaker 1: on big yeahs. Yeah, and you know, yeah the hogs,
Speaker 1: do you have a little bit more of a husky
Speaker 1: appearance to them there? I only saw I saw most
Speaker 1: of them at night in thermal. I didn't hunt really
Speaker 1: hunt them. But the one I saw when we were
Speaker 1: sitting waiting on a red stag to come into a meadow,
Speaker 1: m one rolled out and he just had a real,
Speaker 1: just tunned husky kind of build to him. Another time,
Speaker 1: I look at pictures of those things, real wire hair
Speaker 1: like rushing for kind of yeah. Like if you go
Speaker 1: online and look up, don't type in like Siberian, but
Speaker 1: like go online and searchery looking at actual northern European
Speaker 1: wild hogs, they just got like more uniformity. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you're not like, oh, there's a white one or a
Speaker 1: black one green. They all have that black gray. They
Speaker 1: just look more like a woods creature man, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they like the hides over there. Interestingly, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of um pig hides that have been you know,
Speaker 1: done up and on the wall, draped over something, even
Speaker 1: though it's bristly. Yeah. Oh, speaking of that too, you
Speaker 1: were saying that it's real popular to put a beaver
Speaker 1: hide on your car seat both in winter and homer
Speaker 1: warm asy in the winter, cools you in the summer
Speaker 1: swear by it cooling on your buttocks. But people had
Speaker 1: them in their house. People had them in their houses
Speaker 1: just on like a on a you know, wooden chair.
Speaker 1: There'd be a beaver hide laying there on the couch.
Speaker 1: There might be two or three next to each other
Speaker 1: to sit down on. Are they prime beaver furs or
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Do they have that
Speaker 1: they're real thick undercoat or are they you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to answer that. How are they
Speaker 1: getting the beaver hides? Was an item you'd buy for
Speaker 1: that purpose, or is it you know, someone that gives
Speaker 1: you one. No. No, they hunt them. They're into hunting them,
Speaker 1: not trapping them. I would say, they're there of beavers
Speaker 1: over there are hunted and killed and then less than
Speaker 1: ten percent are trapped. You didn't go do that? No? Okay?
Speaker 1: Did you try to eat the raccoon dog? I offered
Speaker 1: it up, I mentioned it, and you know, it's like
Speaker 1: a one in Rome kind of thing, and uh, they all,
Speaker 1: you know, spat on the ground and we're like no,
Speaker 1: if we're you know, in leaner in leaner times, yes,
Speaker 1: but we're not gonna eat the raccoons. Can you freeze
Speaker 1: it and bring it back in the yetty cooler for
Speaker 1: part of my plate? What are you gonna do with
Speaker 1: the raccoon dog hide? Uh? It is actually being tanned
Speaker 1: right now in Lithuania and my skull already got cleaned up.
Speaker 1: So it's it's in route I think from Latvia. So
Speaker 1: I got my little trophy. Why in Lithuania not Latvia?
Speaker 1: I was born in Lithuania, share a little blood. I
Speaker 1: just think that that's because that's where the nearest tannery is.
Speaker 1: It's a slat. He's a small place. I mean we're
Speaker 1: talking like a state the size of Indiana. You can
Speaker 1: drive across the whole country in a day easily, and
Speaker 1: that's going east west. If you go the short route
Speaker 1: north south, you'd probably be done in five six hours.
Speaker 1: It's a small I mean, one point six million people
Speaker 1: was not that much. We have cities way way bigger
Speaker 1: than that um and more than half of them, like
Speaker 1: almost a million live in Riga, the capital city, So
Speaker 1: when you get out to the countryside, it's pretty spars. Well,
Speaker 1: what was the tell us about another hunt you did
Speaker 1: there where something or not or whatever. Well, I gotta
Speaker 1: first tell you about how I didn't get something. So
Speaker 1: it was the second morning we're red deer hunting kind
Speaker 1: that ended up being what we were going to focus on,
Speaker 1: and I was hunting with this guy Costpars. He was
Speaker 1: the name K A. S. P A r. S. He
Speaker 1: was the sort of the hunt leader. He wasn't the
Speaker 1: club's president, but he was the hunt leader. So on
Speaker 1: the day that we did the driven hunt, he organized everything.
Speaker 1: All your hunting happening at your Hosts Hunt club, Yes,
Speaker 1: which is spread aloverd No, No, actually she's she don't
Speaker 1: even know if she specifically belongs to a hunt club.
Speaker 1: She floats around. Um, she hunts a lot internationally. Like
Speaker 1: for them to go over to hunt in Sweden, it's
Speaker 1: like for us going to hunt in Wyoming. It's just
Speaker 1: not a big deal. Um. So I'm with Coss Bars.
Speaker 1: The first evening, I think we we hear three or
Speaker 1: four stags roaring, which is an amazing sound. Like I did,
Speaker 1: I hadn't google search it before I went over. I
Speaker 1: actually have have you you've probably heard him. I heard
Speaker 1: it in real life, and play it. Here's Coss Bars,
Speaker 1: who's doing that? Isn't that? Isn't that? I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: That sounds like metal. That's more like a lion. Play
Speaker 1: that again, that's a great sound, Chess for it was
Speaker 1: pretty close. It sounds like yeah, yeah, it's basically a
Speaker 1: bugle tube, but it it um three parts and yeah,
Speaker 1: it accordions in and out and they kind of worked
Speaker 1: at as they're making the sound. Yeah. No, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: if you're just walking down a country road in Michigan
Speaker 1: and a red stag went off and you didn't know
Speaker 1: that that creature lived in your neighborhood, it would freak
Speaker 1: you out. I mean, and you heard some ripping off
Speaker 1: in the woods. Yeah, all the time. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: got a lot of stories about the roar, but this
Speaker 1: particular one, well, getting get into my missed opportunity. We
Speaker 1: get it, we we we see on the first evening,
Speaker 1: but he's like not the right size. They were. They
Speaker 1: had a very selecting idea of selective hunting, all based
Speaker 1: on antlers, which is one of the things that was
Speaker 1: very similar to some of the hunting that goes on
Speaker 1: here in the States. Like one to five years old,
Speaker 1: don't shoot because we don't know his potential yet. Uh,
Speaker 1: six to ten if he's big and has but he
Speaker 1: has like good tops, meaning like good crowns where there's
Speaker 1: like three or four or four or more points up top,
Speaker 1: don't shoot because we want him to get over ten
Speaker 1: to realize his full potential, and shoot him at twelve,
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen. But the one you're looking for, since
Speaker 1: since you're a guest, you can't shoot the big big dog.
Speaker 1: But the one that we perfect for you would be
Speaker 1: six to ten years old. But he has a y
Speaker 1: on one side or both sides, and they think that
Speaker 1: that gene of that wise in there and they want
Speaker 1: all those wise called out. No amount of talking to
Speaker 1: heffel Finger is gonna talk him out of that. Probably,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We I did some chat with him,
Speaker 1: and I was like, because in one sense, they're very
Speaker 1: much like, we want to let nature do its thing
Speaker 1: and it's all natural. And I'm like, but hold on,
Speaker 1: this calling thing that you guys are injecting here is
Speaker 1: not necessarily h you're doing her things. So you're talking
Speaker 1: about it. Both tell you you can get a stag
Speaker 1: if he's over six and has a y on one
Speaker 1: or both sides. And but this is kind of it's
Speaker 1: a rule for everybody, right. They really just didn't want
Speaker 1: to not in the actual law, No, not at all.
Speaker 1: This is a this is like they're the way they
Speaker 1: do it at this particular and they would have it
Speaker 1: be that you came all the way back to America
Speaker 1: with no stag rather than violate that law. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: here's a deal. Now. I think I could roll in
Speaker 1: there and they would gladly have me shoot whatever. But
Speaker 1: for cost parts. To get it approved, he had to
Speaker 1: go to the board of the club, eight members. Four
Speaker 1: of them said no, we're gonna basically come in and
Speaker 1: pay the dudes like we've often done other places like
Speaker 1: where that sort of is the set up, but we
Speaker 1: want to only go there and hunt for a week.
Speaker 1: That deal for this this the yeah, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had to help pitch in with your pitch in
Speaker 1: what it costs to be like an annual member even
Speaker 1: though you're only gonna be there five days, and trying
Speaker 1: to make it as though you're not just being getting
Speaker 1: a special treatment, right for half of the group was like, Nope,
Speaker 1: don't need any strangers, don't need any guests, don't care
Speaker 1: who this guy is, don't need him. But like, but
Speaker 1: he's a laughing eagle, he's got a power ring. Oh
Speaker 1: so they board there's a board of eight and four
Speaker 1: our No, yeah, so that just awkward for you to
Speaker 1: be there. Then, well, no, they didn't tell me this beforehand.
Speaker 1: They didn't tell me, right, So I just went in
Speaker 1: there as a guest. It was all good. Later I
Speaker 1: found out and in the evening of the driven hunt,
Speaker 1: when there was a fair amount of alcohol consumed, the
Speaker 1: four guys that talked my ear off and we're attached
Speaker 1: to my hip like we're like had a belt between
Speaker 1: the two of us. Were the four nos. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: so I think by the end of the Driven Hunt,
Speaker 1: because m we we gotta, we gott we're gonna get
Speaker 1: way too far ahead of Yes, big time. You know
Speaker 1: what they're after. No, they want to come hunt with
Speaker 1: you here. You know, I offered it up and it
Speaker 1: wasn't They weren't jumping on the on the invite. After.
Speaker 1: I think they just realized that I was just okay, dude,
Speaker 1: and and everything. So they're they're like being protective and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, he's not that bad. I think they
Speaker 1: had bad experiences with you know, just guests. You know,
Speaker 1: some guy comes in with a bunch of money and
Speaker 1: it's just like, well, I just want to hunt, and
Speaker 1: you know they don't. They take safety very seriously there,
Speaker 1: and so you know, you don't have a record on
Speaker 1: how you are with the you know, how you operate.
Speaker 1: You want him over by not being an idiot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the second morning of my red Deer hunt, we get
Speaker 1: into a bull right pretty much at daylight. Coustpars is
Speaker 1: calling him we sneaking in? What's getting into a bull?
Speaker 1: Mean he's ripping off in the world. Yeah, Cosparus kind
Speaker 1: of had had been scouting he knew some certain zones
Speaker 1: where bulls had been hanging out, you know and roaring, right,
Speaker 1: and so he's like, we're gonna go check this spot.
Speaker 1: We kind of we creep in there. There's one roaring.
Speaker 1: We get closer, You get closer, can't see him. Cost
Speaker 1: Part starts calling. He kind of walks out of the
Speaker 1: you know, timber, and pops out. Cost Parts gets a
Speaker 1: good look at him. He's like, no, that's one of those.
Speaker 1: It's like nine or ten. But he's got the great
Speaker 1: big tops and we need to let him go for
Speaker 1: another three or four years or whatever. Was it similar
Speaker 1: to Montana elk like during the rut? Yeah, some of
Speaker 1: them had harems. Um. I think talking to more people later,
Speaker 1: I think it's you know, and like it is with
Speaker 1: a bull elk with with a harem, it's hard to
Speaker 1: call him away. You're definitely calling him just to kind
Speaker 1: of keep him talking and try to get in close
Speaker 1: to him. Was there an equivalent to like cow calling
Speaker 1: or was it all roaring but you're hunting with a rifle,
Speaker 1: so it's not like, yeah, you didn't have to get
Speaker 1: too close. But surprisingly, and again, I mean all my
Speaker 1: European honey experience up to this point is Steve's stories
Speaker 1: from when he's been over there, you know, and and
Speaker 1: how people like basically like it's so easy, you know,
Speaker 1: and it ain't real hotting over there in Europe. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you say that that is a common that
Speaker 1: is a common yeah, you know, you know, come on, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I didn't have any experience. You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard what what you what your experiences, and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you felt like you had to
Speaker 1: like work your tail off when when you was in Ireland.
Speaker 1: I went to Scotland and hunted the red deer and no, yeah,
Speaker 1: we walked, and he knew I like to take big walks,
Speaker 1: so we walked a weird route. Just take a big
Speaker 1: walk to get back to them. That sounds about right.
Speaker 1: I bet you could get over everyone that way and
Speaker 1: over that way, So let's do that. He's a good
Speaker 1: guy where we just drive up and get him. So
Speaker 1: we decided to check like a second spot that morning
Speaker 1: and to set the stage in where my head's at.
Speaker 1: It's early in generally in my trip to Latvia, I've
Speaker 1: been in the country for four days now, two days
Speaker 1: in the country. Two days only in these woods, not
Speaker 1: even a full day really is like an evening hout.
Speaker 1: And this is the next morning. So I'm new to
Speaker 1: the landscape, new to the habitat, new to the animals,
Speaker 1: and so far, it's like Diana is just like marching
Speaker 1: them in front of me, you know, and cost Press
Speaker 1: is like, no, not quite the right one, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this isn't gonna be too hard, right, So
Speaker 1: we come up on this clear cut, it's maybe like
Speaker 1: two or three years old. We're staying there. Cost Press
Speaker 1: calls nothing answers, were there for a while, long enough
Speaker 1: to where we almost start chit chatting and now looking
Speaker 1: the clear cut and all of a sudden, there's just
Speaker 1: a bull feeding stag. I'm like, oh, look there he is.
Speaker 1: Cost Parts glasses him. He's like, dude, that's the one,
Speaker 1: like eight or nine years old, Like nice crown on
Speaker 1: one side. Why on the other, Like, let's shoot him. Well,
Speaker 1: the day before we're talking shot placement and he's like,
Speaker 1: if you can, try not to shoot him right in
Speaker 1: the shoulder, which they which is they had a cool
Speaker 1: name for the they call it to shovel. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: he's like, don't shoot him in the shovel because we'll
Speaker 1: lose a lot of meat and there's a good chance
Speaker 1: that we'll be selling some a lot of this animal,
Speaker 1: which I'll tell you why later. So if you can
Speaker 1: just try to shoot him behind the shoulder, this bull
Speaker 1: is just stand there hunter fifty yard or so, but
Speaker 1: feeding but quartering too hard. If I was hunting bull
Speaker 1: out here in public, Montana, I would just shot him
Speaker 1: in five seconds. It's just been like get on him
Speaker 1: and touch off and done. Deal some I'm waiting and
Speaker 1: I'm waiting, and he's just feeding like not a care
Speaker 1: in the world wins good waiting waiting five minutes goes
Speaker 1: by at least, and he's just kind of feeding but
Speaker 1: not giving me broadside shot, you know, long enough to
Speaker 1: where I lose my focus and I'm on these like
Speaker 1: shooting sticks with it supports the front and the back,
Speaker 1: but it's one pivot point underneath. And I look over
Speaker 1: my shoulder to say something to cost Bars, like, oh,
Speaker 1: isn't that like just how it would be that this
Speaker 1: animal is like right here wor us, but it's not
Speaker 1: going to offer up a broadshot shop And the time
Speaker 1: it takes me to say that, how you say that
Speaker 1: by test now col Chavvy and peel Nsan is something
Speaker 1: like that, and gonna be a little bit more time,
Speaker 1: not long, You're gonna get to learn another Laptian word.
Speaker 1: Right now. I look back and the bull is gone,
Speaker 1: the stag is gone, seriously gone, disappeared. And I hear
Speaker 1: behind me yawn to North Chuck it a and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've never heard this word in my life, North Chuckada,
Speaker 1: and I look over and cuss Bars, who have also
Speaker 1: known for roughly twenty four hours at this point, pretty
Speaker 1: jovial guy, like we would all very much get along
Speaker 1: with them. Hell of a fisherman catches pike and wallet
Speaker 1: like they're going out of style. He's the blood has
Speaker 1: dropped out of his face. He's like the pale and
Speaker 1: he's as deadpan serious as I've seen this guy that
Speaker 1: I've known him for a day. And he's like to
Speaker 1: nout Chuck today, and I'm like what, I'm like, no, No,
Speaker 1: I'm like he's gonna still be there, like we've just
Speaker 1: been watching for ten minutes or more, you know. And
Speaker 1: so I'm like looking around and customers has like left
Speaker 1: the building. He's not laughing, he's just standing there like
Speaker 1: kind of drooped over, just like dude, and basically Nor Chuck,
Speaker 1: and ay, is you fucked up? Like you funked up
Speaker 1: as in like you had the opportunity right there and
Speaker 1: you just let it just slip right out of your
Speaker 1: hands like a like a muff to the nth degree,
Speaker 1: like you just muffed it bad. Like there it was.
Speaker 1: He gave you this because he was watching binoculars. So
Speaker 1: as I turned to say something, the bull turns. We
Speaker 1: didn't know there was a cow there or behind, and
Speaker 1: he pushed behind and they both went in behind this
Speaker 1: little cops of trees, never to be seen again. And
Speaker 1: uh so we hunting there for like I'm trying to
Speaker 1: like stay in the game, and so we stay there
Speaker 1: for another ten fifteen minutes. They're just they're gone. They're gone.
Speaker 1: He can't find them on the thermal. They just they disappeared,
Speaker 1: North Chuckada. And what's interesting there is other versions of that.
Speaker 1: There's like it which would be like something like you
Speaker 1: could even tell your kids, like which just means like
Speaker 1: you kind of like messed it up. But North Chuck,
Speaker 1: it is like, yeah, you just really really funked up,
Speaker 1: and uh we even we hunted that same spot that
Speaker 1: night because it was like the type of bowl that
Speaker 1: was perfect for me to kill. So we hand that
Speaker 1: spot that night. I think we were even there the
Speaker 1: next morning. We built customarus is just like he goes
Speaker 1: and to get more advantage, he goes and grabs a
Speaker 1: chainsaw and in like an hour has basically built us
Speaker 1: a tree stand out of um I was probably like
Speaker 1: a lodgepole pine or whatever it is, similar to that
Speaker 1: grows in Latvia. And uh so we sat up in
Speaker 1: this you know, homemade dear stand for at least two
Speaker 1: hunts and that bowl never never appeared again. And we
Speaker 1: hunted for three more days and never got another opportunity.
Speaker 1: And what was interesting, Yeah, we saw a couple of others,
Speaker 1: but it got a lot harder. Like we'd hear them
Speaker 1: roaring or whatever, but they just wouldn't come out of
Speaker 1: the woods. They wouldn't come into the fields. You know.
Speaker 1: They'd like we'd be watching one field and you'd hear
Speaker 1: the bull kind of working out towards a different field,
Speaker 1: and they don't like it's just not part of their
Speaker 1: hunting tactics to like creep in there into the woods
Speaker 1: after him. You know, it is but he felt like
Speaker 1: with you know us two and two photographers, it was
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. He used the chainsaw. Well, we left
Speaker 1: the woods and did that in different location and then
Speaker 1: carried it into the spot. Yeah, we carried like a
Speaker 1: homemade wooden tree stand. Um, I don't know, like a
Speaker 1: half a mile it was. It was not easy. Got
Speaker 1: a little working in the afternoon. Um, so doesn't let
Speaker 1: it go. The guys really loved Tyler and Joe and
Speaker 1: Jason that were with me. They really love this new
Speaker 1: word that they've learned North Chuckoday and every everything like
Speaker 1: there was no more nimming, which stands for not a movie,
Speaker 1: which is what the guys like to say when they
Speaker 1: get a shot. When they take a shot, but it's
Speaker 1: not going to be used in an episode, it's called
Speaker 1: a nim not in movie. But nim got thrown out.
Speaker 1: It was like, don't know Chuckoday or you know Chuck
Speaker 1: Aday that all week and cost parts would correct them
Speaker 1: and be like that was like a little baby nor Chuckoday.
Speaker 1: But honest did the other day Big North Chucky like
Speaker 1: just grilling me. I'm like, bro, you don't know me.
Speaker 1: We've only been hanging out for like hours and you're
Speaker 1: just like just hammering me alright, but it's the great
Speaker 1: segue to the driven hunt. So at the end of
Speaker 1: four days of red sack hunting on the just burning
Speaker 1: up your trip on this, Yeah, that was kind of
Speaker 1: the plan. Anyways, we we did, like I had a
Speaker 1: pig come out in front of me, but we're waiting
Speaker 1: on a red dag and Cospos is like, you want
Speaker 1: to shoot the pig and he uhould pig. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, should I shoot the pig? Like we're
Speaker 1: here red stag hunting and I'm like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I should shoot the pig, and like I put the
Speaker 1: gun up, and right as I'm putting the gun up,
Speaker 1: that little pig stops. You can see his nose twitch
Speaker 1: one way and the other, and he turns ninety and
Speaker 1: runs off and is like he's like it wasn't Diana
Speaker 1: says no on the pig. I'm like, dang it, no pigs. Um.
Speaker 1: So the driven hunting day, we meet at the clubhouse,
Speaker 1: like forty people roughly big group. Does this look like
Speaker 1: you had a picture It looks like beer Stein's and no, no, no, no, okay.
Speaker 1: So so they do like alcohol there. Uh, just as
Speaker 1: much as they like it in Wisconsin. But you do
Speaker 1: not mix alcohol. You do not mix alcohol at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're drinking wine like you can't have as a gun owner.
Speaker 1: If you if we had a designated driver that was
Speaker 1: completely sober and you and I had some drinks, but
Speaker 1: we had a d D that was driving into the house,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about beer steins and stuff. Ye, so yeah
Speaker 1: we got back onto alcohol. Okay, go ahead. Yeah if
Speaker 1: if basically you if the person was pulled over for
Speaker 1: speeding even though they were sober as a ghost, but
Speaker 1: you and I had a couple of beers in us
Speaker 1: and our rifles were in the car with us, that'd
Speaker 1: be the end of your rifle privileges. Privileges done like
Speaker 1: like you can you can't be in presence of your gun.
Speaker 1: You can't be like an easy possession. So they have
Speaker 1: a huge locked vault in this for anybody that's gonna
Speaker 1: do some serious drinking and then hang out and possibly
Speaker 1: sleep in the bonk house or whatever. There's a gun
Speaker 1: safe vault that everybody puts their guns in there if
Speaker 1: you're gonna do any kind of drinking at all, and
Speaker 1: it's locked and don't know where the keys are. So
Speaker 1: if the cops roll in, you're like, yeah, my guns
Speaker 1: in there. I don't know where the keys are. I
Speaker 1: cannot get to it. Otherwise, you better take your gun
Speaker 1: home and then come back and put it in the
Speaker 1: safe at home and have it locked up there. Can't
Speaker 1: be drunk around your gun. No, it is serious. That
Speaker 1: sounds pretty respectable. So forty people get together. The President
Speaker 1: gives a kind of an overall speech, a rah rah rah.
Speaker 1: We've got, um, you know, a great club together. We're
Speaker 1: all great people. Let's be great hunters. Let's do this
Speaker 1: as as respectfully as we can. They acknowledge you being
Speaker 1: there if you hadn't paid your dudes, pay your dues.
Speaker 1: I don't think he did. I think cops barters then did.
Speaker 1: When he he got he basically was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy that's been sucking up all week. Um, I
Speaker 1: want to say about that. I think had that happened
Speaker 1: the third morning and having some highs and lows and
Speaker 1: some experiences with the animals and the landscapes, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have had I would have had that laser focus of
Speaker 1: someone that's ready to kill in frederator mode. But that
Speaker 1: first morning I was just like, this is great. You
Speaker 1: know yet yeah yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't ready. Um
Speaker 1: so yeah, customer said, hey, we got a film crew here.
Speaker 1: You know, he explained the whole thing, what's gonna be happening.
Speaker 1: If anybody doesn't want to get filmed, you know, let
Speaker 1: us know, etcetera, etcetera, and um, he basically rolls out
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. So everybody lines up in a row.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be hunting. There's a group of the drivers
Speaker 1: some place in Europe. They call him beaters, but what
Speaker 1: do you guys call him? Seth chasers and watchers. Chasers
Speaker 1: are the ones who are chasing the animals. Sounds like
Speaker 1: D and D or something. Drivers and posters, drivers and standards,
Speaker 1: push pushers. Yeah, and Latvian it's a Zena's would be
Speaker 1: a single driver. I think the closest translation would be
Speaker 1: a driver someone driving. Well, they don't say sitter. I
Speaker 1: mean that would just be something like a cosa sage
Speaker 1: to get a med. Next it would be a hunter.
Speaker 1: You're just a hunter. So the differentiation is like hunters
Speaker 1: and pushers exactly. So the pushers aren't armed. Nope, no,
Speaker 1: not armed. They already know who they're gonna be. It's
Speaker 1: as much smaller group than I thought it was gonna
Speaker 1: because you think they know who they're going to be. Well,
Speaker 1: here's a deal. You don't. You don't get to be
Speaker 1: a hunter until after you've done three years of pushing
Speaker 1: no matter your age don't matter. And now this this
Speaker 1: is a club rule. This isn't a federal rule. This
Speaker 1: is a club rule. So if you want to like
Speaker 1: and what's interesting is like the if it was the
Speaker 1: day before and you're just going on a spot and
Speaker 1: stock hunt, you can take your gun and go and
Speaker 1: do your hunt. But when it's like the driven hunt,
Speaker 1: there you gotta beat the bush for three years and
Speaker 1: then you get to be home and they're holding you
Speaker 1: to this. They weren't going to I held myself to
Speaker 1: it thinking that I'd get opportunities because we're gonna do
Speaker 1: it at least a couple of drives, and then maybe
Speaker 1: at the end I'd be like, all right, are they
Speaker 1: as part of that safety because of safety like picking
Speaker 1: your shot or is it just like making the new
Speaker 1: guy put his time in? I think both. So the
Speaker 1: drivers aren't carrying. No, really the drivers do you have
Speaker 1: a lot of dogs? They love their dogs. Some of
Speaker 1: the hunters even had dogs and they'd be like they
Speaker 1: would just walk up to me and be like, here
Speaker 1: take these three, and you have three and then I would,
Speaker 1: you know, walk him or drive to wherever what we
Speaker 1: old we were starting on and then walk him into
Speaker 1: the woods with me ten yards cut them loose. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What kind of dogs did they have? Uh? There was
Speaker 1: a bunch of Siberian like us was one and it
Speaker 1: looks like a small There were different colors. Some of
Speaker 1: them were wider gray and some of them were black.
Speaker 1: But they look like the same kind of shape and fur.
Speaker 1: I'd say, just like a husky. Yeah, like a Norwegian
Speaker 1: l count. Have you ever seen in We had a
Speaker 1: Norwegian alcount. It was like a small, pretty burly husky. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I met another guy that uses that those dogs for moose,
Speaker 1: that they bay moose up with dogs and then they
Speaker 1: sneak in and shoot the moose. Um. So everybody gets
Speaker 1: in a row and they guy with a hat comes
Speaker 1: by and there's tiles in there with the numbers one
Speaker 1: through thirty or whatever it was on there. Everybody picks
Speaker 1: the number out of there. Then they would reorganize one
Speaker 1: through thirty and then the first six would go with
Speaker 1: so and so, the next six would go so and so.
Speaker 1: And that was way to break up the group. And
Speaker 1: so it's not to play favorites with spots, right, So
Speaker 1: that way the guy that's like always good the shooting
Speaker 1: spot where nothing runs by me, you'd be like, dude,
Speaker 1: we mix it up by numbers that you know, is
Speaker 1: there not a leader that took you to one Mega
Speaker 1: drive or a bunch of little drives? We ended up
Speaker 1: doing three mega drives And and is it like are
Speaker 1: they standing in like tower blinds or is there like
Speaker 1: specific spots they gotta be or driven the same country
Speaker 1: over and over, you know for years and years and years.
Speaker 1: So there's definitely like just like you would back home
Speaker 1: if you've driven the same like we's Russ in Michigan.
Speaker 1: You know Doe Hills where you need to stand because
Speaker 1: the dolls are gonna come un across Doe Hill, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: but very strict rules when the dude places you. So
Speaker 1: Cosbro has had like five sub generals or sergeants that
Speaker 1: would take the smaller like take five each and go
Speaker 1: down one line, and then that guy would set five
Speaker 1: people in a row, and then the other guy would
Speaker 1: set five people over here whatever. And when they set
Speaker 1: you there, they're like, you can take two steps in
Speaker 1: any direction and that's it. You stay in that circle
Speaker 1: until the drive is over and you're picked up by me.
Speaker 1: That's it. And it actually it made sense because I
Speaker 1: literally was three steps out and I had to turn
Speaker 1: back on a stag. So I'm sitting as a hunter
Speaker 1: as a shooter. You I can hear the dog coming
Speaker 1: pretty excited, and then I can hear the hoofbeats in
Speaker 1: the woods and they're they've actually crossed like a little
Speaker 1: meadow and they're on this wooded ridge and the ridge
Speaker 1: is pointing right towards me, so that I know that,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like the stag or this animals gonna run
Speaker 1: off this point. You judge, you still can't shoot them. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Linda standing next to me and she's gonna help me. Wait,
Speaker 1: I thought you weren't. So this was the third drive.
Speaker 1: So I worked as a as a beater for two,
Speaker 1: as a driver for two, and then I was gonna
Speaker 1: do be another and they're like, please, please please. I
Speaker 1: was like, dude, I'm I'm a born driver, like I'm
Speaker 1: all good, like I like walking the woods. Diana says,
Speaker 1: it so that right, but they were basically like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like you've proven your worth. What I did too on
Speaker 1: this I can't remember. I think of the second drive.
Speaker 1: I showed up and there's a couple of moose down,
Speaker 1: and I offered to gut one of the moose and
Speaker 1: rolled up my sleeves, gutted it and pulled it out.
Speaker 1: And that gave me huge props that like I just
Speaker 1: jumped in and got the work done, you know, and
Speaker 1: didn't the hunter didn't have to do it. And so
Speaker 1: they were like, no, no, no no, you hunt, you hunt.
Speaker 1: They could have told me a little bit earlier that,
Speaker 1: like go ahead and shoot any stag that runs out.
Speaker 1: Later they're like, yeah, you should have shot, because I
Speaker 1: actually had to run by me. But you like, but
Speaker 1: for days, yeah, I know, did you did you ever
Speaker 1: point out that like that seemed to be at odds
Speaker 1: with the whole Diana says, it's so like because because
Speaker 1: he's telling you not to shoot, and Diana is putting
Speaker 1: the deer in front of you, are stags one that
Speaker 1: stab it's coming down them the rich, the wooded rich
Speaker 1: pops out into the meadow, but off to my right,
Speaker 1: I've got a little roll, and so he runs below
Speaker 1: the role. If we were hunting again here and that
Speaker 1: happened to you, you just I would I had to
Speaker 1: run ten or fifteen yards and I wouldn't be able
Speaker 1: to peek over the horizon. And turns out another shooter
Speaker 1: does down from me. Could see him standing there, but
Speaker 1: he couldn't shoot at it because it was, you know,
Speaker 1: like been too close to me basically his bullet. But
Speaker 1: I could have run over there and easily killed it.
Speaker 1: And so I had taken three steps, and Linda was like,
Speaker 1: I was like all right, Like even when it comes
Speaker 1: down to getting something, they don't want you to move
Speaker 1: totally because basically, as soon as you move out of
Speaker 1: your spot, the dudes on either side of you are
Speaker 1: like expecting you to be in a spot. And so
Speaker 1: if something comes out for them and they go to
Speaker 1: swing and you're not in your spot, your dumb Americans
Speaker 1: safety very very serious about the safe. Well, the age
Speaker 1: class here is frightful. If it's brown, it's down and rife.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of just spikes. Sin does let him grow
Speaker 1: at him, Grow at him. Grow. It doesn't show signs
Speaker 1: of stopping, and the bus seems safe from dropping to
Speaker 1: six points. Sambo let him grow, at him, grow at him,
Speaker 1: grow It comes grizzly claws. Here comes grizzly claws tracking
Speaker 1: me through the range. If he comes around, will squeeze
Speaker 1: a full round and hope he won't be back again.
Speaker 1: He's all running, won't stop coming, Let off all hunting
Speaker 1: shot empty, cly Ben, say your PRIs because grizzy claws
Speaker 1: ain't going to stop. Nope. So we ended up getting
Speaker 1: a think three moves and two red deer hinds that day.
Speaker 1: No hogs that yeah, no hogs were seen. The drives
Speaker 1: are I don't want to say a free for all,
Speaker 1: but it's like whatever comes through is fair. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: did say with the road deer they prefer not to
Speaker 1: shoot them on the drive because they're so small and
Speaker 1: they're moving pretty quickly. There's a good chance when you
Speaker 1: shoot them, you don't know where you're gonna hit them.
Speaker 1: It's just not a big enough target and you're gonna
Speaker 1: lose a lot of meat um that evening. So they
Speaker 1: decided on how much meat they were gonna keep and
Speaker 1: split amongst the group. I forget how many animals it
Speaker 1: was two or three like they might have done like
Speaker 1: the two young moose and then maybe one of the hinds.
Speaker 1: All of it butchered on site. Like they had a
Speaker 1: separate building from the clubhouse, which is which was called
Speaker 1: the venatava, which basically, like the literal translation would be
Speaker 1: the gutting house. Like Tovey did not means they is
Speaker 1: wind and come back to that, but today did not
Speaker 1: means to like open something up to let you know,
Speaker 1: air flow through it. And uh so everybody just chips
Speaker 1: in and the next thing you know, you've got three
Speaker 1: giant animals. They had these like plastic line shelves I
Speaker 1: don't know, pretty long ten twelve feet long, and three
Speaker 1: or four of them on one wall and then they
Speaker 1: were plastic lines you could clean them, and there was
Speaker 1: third or whatever. How many people were there? Thirty nine
Speaker 1: forty piles of meat, shanks, ribs, backstraps, just piles for
Speaker 1: ever for everybody. Piles. So again not how big is
Speaker 1: each pile. Like if you had one of those like
Speaker 1: four inch meat lugs you know that we like to use,
Speaker 1: it probably fill up two thirds of it. You know,
Speaker 1: like multiple meals. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, like
Speaker 1: nice nice, nice amount of meat. And now we just
Speaker 1: did one driven hunt. They'll do that every Saturday and
Speaker 1: maybe a Saturday and a Sunday until they're done sick
Speaker 1: of hunting. Got it? Um, So that was just the
Speaker 1: day's take, you know, and like they're like, okay, we'll
Speaker 1: just take as much as we all need for the
Speaker 1: day and then they're gonna sell it for what They'll
Speaker 1: just sell the rest and they use the uh, they
Speaker 1: use the funds for the club. And who do they
Speaker 1: go and sell it to the local butcher meat shop
Speaker 1: butchered already? No no, no, no, no no no, So
Speaker 1: they butchered themselves and then they probably brought two whole
Speaker 1: animals to the processors. So whatever they cut they keep, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then sell on sell it basically on the hoof,
Speaker 1: gutted butt on the hoof. What's the market like? Are
Speaker 1: they like getting a pretty penny? You know? I never
Speaker 1: I meant to. We were gonna try to make it
Speaker 1: to a market where they sold a while a game,
Speaker 1: but we didn't. So is there is there a deal
Speaker 1: that's highly regarded? Is there the deal with selling it though?
Speaker 1: Is it like, of course we're gonna sell something, or
Speaker 1: is it that everyone's like, oh, I don't really want that.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll sell some. With that many animals down,
Speaker 1: it's of course we're gonna sell something. Yeah. So they're
Speaker 1: not trying to fill giant chess freezers and stuff. No,
Speaker 1: And they actually don't do too much freezing there. It's uh,
Speaker 1: they do a lot of preserving of their meat. Like
Speaker 1: everybody was busting out cans like actual um pop top cans.
Speaker 1: You know. They have their own steel canners, so they're
Speaker 1: making like potted meat homemade steel can totally. And they
Speaker 1: would mix a lot of like they would do like
Speaker 1: bore so that it would have the fat of the
Speaker 1: of the pig, you know, in with their stagging moose meat.
Speaker 1: A lot of sausages get made up, you know, but
Speaker 1: I don't think have enough freezer's common practice like it
Speaker 1: is here mhm. But so it's not to play favorites
Speaker 1: with the meat and the stacks of meat, because you
Speaker 1: could just eyeball it right and be like, I see
Speaker 1: a huge chunk of backstrap over there, that's all ribbed me.
Speaker 1: You know, I had this little stick. I would walk
Speaker 1: around and I'd point at a pile of meat, and
Speaker 1: then a dude that wasn't looking at me was just
Speaker 1: going down the list of names. Be like Stephen Ronella,
Speaker 1: you'd come up with your meat lug. You come up
Speaker 1: to the pile that I was pointing to stick at
Speaker 1: and swipe it off the off the shelf and put
Speaker 1: it and walk out. I'd go to another pile pointing stick.
Speaker 1: Brodie Anderson, you'd come over there, get your pile. So
Speaker 1: would the heart get cut in half? Or is the
Speaker 1: heart just the heart? Glad? Yes, this is one of
Speaker 1: those interesting like some of the similarities. You know that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that the hunters there, you know,
Speaker 1: considered important to them and not important, and it might
Speaker 1: have been completely different than for us. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that were just like the same old
Speaker 1: pervasive wives tales just go on one being like organ, meat, heart,
Speaker 1: and liver like actually we ate some liver that night,
Speaker 1: uh and it was it was good. But like the heart.
Speaker 1: I see one guy he walks up to get his
Speaker 1: meat and he's got three hearts in his tup already.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how did you get all of those? He's like,
Speaker 1: nobody else wanted him. I'm like, you're telling me, out
Speaker 1: of forty people here, you're the only guy that wanted
Speaker 1: the hearts. And he's like, yeah, I don't tell anybody
Speaker 1: about how good they are. I'm like, yeah, wow about tongues.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't catch where the tongues went, but
Speaker 1: they did come out of the end. Yeah. One guy though,
Speaker 1: this old guy comes up and he comes up to
Speaker 1: his pile and he's like, ah, nothing but bones, nothing
Speaker 1: but bones, you know. He's yelling at me, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: these are shanks, Like you can do some awesome stuff
Speaker 1: with these things. And they're already like they had a
Speaker 1: band saw in the shop, so they're already like pre
Speaker 1: beautiful asabuco chunks. And I'm like no, no, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'll email your recipe. Like that's good stuff right there.
Speaker 1: You just gotta know what to do with it. Um.
Speaker 1: Another thing was while I was spot and stock hunting
Speaker 1: the red deer earlier in the week, another hunter got one,
Speaker 1: so we went to go see it, go help him
Speaker 1: pull out of the woods. Loaded up in the trailer.
Speaker 1: Old guy and uh, I was asking about what he's
Speaker 1: gonna do with it, how he's gonna preserve it or whatever.
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, can't eat these stags in the rut.
Speaker 1: I'm like really kind of look around the group, you know,
Speaker 1: and every single like vocal at mean, dude, he's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, yeah, this like the meat is
Speaker 1: just just rut stink. Just can't eat them. Oh yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, this thing is gonna go for others.
Speaker 1: But it's just funny. I mean, how many times have
Speaker 1: you It's no different than people here that are like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, stinky ruck buck. Like there are day someone's
Speaker 1: telling my kids the reason white tails are better than
Speaker 1: mulders because you know what they've been eating, right, So
Speaker 1: what what did they like? Um? For people that aren't familiar,
Speaker 1: like red deer lot very Millard Elk, but like what
Speaker 1: like a bull compared to a stag? Like size wise,
Speaker 1: the stags are definitely a little bit smaller, not by much,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe smaller if I mean if one
Speaker 1: ran across the road in front of you, and if
Speaker 1: if it was just like a regular old six seven
Speaker 1: year old stag, you just think it was a bull,
Speaker 1: Elk'd be like a couple of extra points. But yeah,
Speaker 1: be hard to tell. They got a brown maine. You know,
Speaker 1: they might be a little bit reddish, more hued. But um,
Speaker 1: but I still got that yellow rump and stuff don't
Speaker 1: very elk like. UM. Tell about the death wind, the
Speaker 1: death wind, Yeah, it's out of ash Uh, that's what
Speaker 1: that's called. Wasn't there isn't there a guy blue wessel
Speaker 1: is the death wind. It's not the death wind. I'm
Speaker 1: mixing it up. It's called the something. So this has
Speaker 1: nothing it's this has nothing to do with hunters. The
Speaker 1: hunters believe in it it too, but it's just a general
Speaker 1: Latvian superstition. This is the first thing he told me
Speaker 1: called a through wind through wind, and it basically means
Speaker 1: it's like a breeze, right, But a through wind doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to be like a breeze outside, Like if
Speaker 1: you have a if you have two windows open in
Speaker 1: a house and you have that breeze that's created, that
Speaker 1: could be the through wind or a window on the door,
Speaker 1: or let's just say you're even just in your yard
Speaker 1: outside and two gates were opened and a breeze was
Speaker 1: blowing through through the gates. Dude, And I'm recently talking
Speaker 1: to more about this. Like when I was a Latinan
Speaker 1: deer camp this year in Wisconsin, I was talking about
Speaker 1: this story, and they're like, like literally trained doctors trained
Speaker 1: in the United States States of America that practice in
Speaker 1: Latvia will tell sometimes they're patients that the cause of
Speaker 1: whatever said illness might be high likely koth hood through wind,
Speaker 1: like especially around little kids around here, a lot of
Speaker 1: grannies and and and you know, over protective moms, like
Speaker 1: you want to make sure they always got shoes on.
Speaker 1: You don't is wet because you're gonna get a cold.
Speaker 1: But like there it's the through wind. To the point
Speaker 1: where I walked into um, someone's house once while I
Speaker 1: was there on this trip, and there's like the mother
Speaker 1: in law, mom and toddler maybe three years of age
Speaker 1: or so, and I'm I'm like the last one coming
Speaker 1: through the door, hand on the door and I'm closing
Speaker 1: it behind me. I mean, it was gonna take another second.
Speaker 1: And the mother in law was like, please please please
Speaker 1: close the door. You don't want the through wind. We've
Speaker 1: got a kid, We've got a toddler here in the room.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but I'm like literally closing the door already.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like it can cause serious like to the
Speaker 1: point where on the buses on the public transportation, you
Speaker 1: can only open one side of the windows on the bus. Okay,
Speaker 1: Let's I went to a learned individual, perhaps a meteorologist
Speaker 1: or someone like that. To I went to. Let's say
Speaker 1: there was a meteorologist who then went to medical school. Okay,
Speaker 1: I said, uh, I said to him, tell me, explain
Speaker 1: to me like I'm ten, what what like? What is
Speaker 1: the through wind doing to everybody? What would they say?
Speaker 1: Is there no answer? It's afflicting you. It is causing
Speaker 1: your problems. Stay out of the through wind. You have
Speaker 1: a headache right now, Steve. It's not because you haven't
Speaker 1: drank water for four day. It's because truck. But do
Speaker 1: they line up like you know what you're talking about
Speaker 1: the bus windows. Let's say there's a guy in the
Speaker 1: front of the bus and he's got the left window
Speaker 1: open and again in the back of the bus the
Speaker 1: right window. That's not a through wind. It doesn't work
Speaker 1: that way. It's gotta be more lined up. Yeah. If
Speaker 1: it's going like across anything, across the room, across the yard,
Speaker 1: across the through the house, it seems like it would
Speaker 1: affect how they would like build houses for instance, like
Speaker 1: it probably does, there'd only be one door and no windows.
Speaker 1: I guess here's my question, just in to keep them tight.
Speaker 1: Let me reask my question. I'm rechange my question. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not that the through wind is carrying something. It's
Speaker 1: that the through wind is the thing. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's what's causing. It's like the wind is of itself problematic.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't gonna sit down and argue. He argued
Speaker 1: his way from one of the sh I'll show you
Speaker 1: through wind? How is you? How is your general experience? Though?
Speaker 1: That did people like welcome you? Like where people are stoked?
Speaker 1: Where people like would you be welcome back? Like with
Speaker 1: all the film in and oh yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean we believe we tend to, you know, have
Speaker 1: there's no chance of all those people back there like
Speaker 1: he bought the through window. No, they're they're into it.
Speaker 1: Do they think? Did they? What is what is their
Speaker 1: opinion of a Latvian whose family split? Are you? Um uh?
Speaker 1: Are you guys like honorary Latvians or you like sort
Speaker 1: of like the furthest thing from a Latvian because you split? No?
Speaker 1: They no they understand that, you know, are you know
Speaker 1: my grandparents did what they had to do in those
Speaker 1: in those times, you know, and and and had to leave,
Speaker 1: had to leave the country. I only, I only they
Speaker 1: hold any grudge. Huh. We're certainly you know different. But
Speaker 1: is it is it generally is it generally considered that
Speaker 1: that that if you left, you were pushed out? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's like it's like Cubans that came into Florida
Speaker 1: post revolution. It's sort of like you just it's taken
Speaker 1: to be that you you left outside of you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you were forced out, pushed out, fleeing. They
Speaker 1: did think it was because I got there. Like well,
Speaker 1: I was saying earlier, I talked to Latvian mostly now
Speaker 1: in the last ten years, with you know, twenty or
Speaker 1: less people on a regular basis. Right when I was
Speaker 1: younger and I spent more time in the Latvian camp,
Speaker 1: it might be in the hundreds. But even then, if
Speaker 1: I didn't know you, I knew somebody that knew it. Right,
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of friendly. But to be a place where
Speaker 1: just all of a sudden, everybody, all these strangers around
Speaker 1: you are speaking this language that you've always spoken with friends.
Speaker 1: It was interesting, it felt cool. I wanted to go
Speaker 1: up to everybody like, oh my god, this is awesome,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, dude, everybody here, um A lot
Speaker 1: of them speak English. Yeah, like my bags are lost,
Speaker 1: and the lady at the at the complaint counter or
Speaker 1: the lost you know, baggage counter usually deals with irate people,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, so awesome that we can have this conversation.
Speaker 1: You're like the first person that I'm talking to in Lavia.
Speaker 1: In Lavia and she's like, oh, bro, dude, take it
Speaker 1: easy and like, no, you don't understand. So they thought
Speaker 1: that was a little funny that I was so excited
Speaker 1: about that, But it also gave me the opportunity to
Speaker 1: look at um, just to have like a like a
Speaker 1: more worldly, you know view, because you got too thinking
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of like I like to go
Speaker 1: to Lavia because it was exotic to me. Is in't
Speaker 1: this place that everybody's speak Latvian, which I only had
Speaker 1: to go to like special school on Saturdays to speak Latvian,
Speaker 1: you know, or go to Latvian church or camp or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they're like, it's just Latvia. Bro. A lot of
Speaker 1: people leave here to go get make more money living
Speaker 1: in England or Ireland, or are trying to get to
Speaker 1: the States. Why you're saying people like broke as a
Speaker 1: joke there. Yeah, like a lot of people make thousand bucks.
Speaker 1: I'm off there and live off that. Um My friends
Speaker 1: that you know, we're educated here and now live there.
Speaker 1: You know, they've figured out a way and and and
Speaker 1: do much better. They live, you know, not too dissimilar
Speaker 1: life from us. You know, got to fun restaurants and
Speaker 1: you know, have good time in the capital city, have
Speaker 1: little places out on the beach, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: not the average Latvians I'm living, you know. Do you
Speaker 1: want to go back. Yeah, we're going in June. I'm
Speaker 1: bringing the whole the whole crew. Now his daughters are
Speaker 1: understand why he makes them speak Lavia. Yeah, we've been
Speaker 1: working harder at that since I got that. Probably lights
Speaker 1: fire under their ass on it or don't they get it?
Speaker 1: They lit a fire under my ass to get to
Speaker 1: do more of that. But yeah, to get there with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are they like, man, what's that again in Latvia? Because
Speaker 1: I'm going to Latvia? Or don't they kind of made
Speaker 1: all that connection, you know, they are. You gotta catch
Speaker 1: them in the right mood when they're when they're interested
Speaker 1: to learn, you know, like with anything you know. And
Speaker 1: when you guys go back, you'll you'll see something, You'll
Speaker 1: see some those distant relatives. Yes, and you'll not go
Speaker 1: you'll not go revisit friends you made on this trip. No,
Speaker 1: I definitely will will. Oh yeah, No, I'm gonna hunt
Speaker 1: a road deer when I go back. When you go
Speaker 1: back in June. You know, Lavia is that the same
Speaker 1: uh latitude as southern Alaska, and so you got you know,
Speaker 1: a twenty hour day in June. And they say one
Speaker 1: of the most beautiful things to do as far as
Speaker 1: hunting goes in Latvia is to go hunt the road
Speaker 1: deer in the middle of summer when you can literally
Speaker 1: hunt them almost all night long and uh you know
Speaker 1: it's still daylight, but you don't need to bring your
Speaker 1: own guns and all that though. No, I'll just do
Speaker 1: what the same thing I did this time, and just
Speaker 1: get um, you know, get those get the email that says,
Speaker 1: as long as you're with so and so, you can
Speaker 1: use your wife, your daughters, you'll see family, you'll see
Speaker 1: the the cotspits, you know that via sits on the
Speaker 1: Baltic seat, and I didn't go see the Baltic seat.
Speaker 1: So that's definitely all my list of things to do
Speaker 1: and go beach combing for amber. Amber is one of
Speaker 1: the look about I'm talking about amber, like when when
Speaker 1: pine pitch falls. Okay, no, that is one of the
Speaker 1: world's largest producers. Yeah, it's from them. It's the squid.
Speaker 1: It's uh sperm whale something they form around squid beaks.
Speaker 1: Yeh um. I want to tell you to wrap it
Speaker 1: all up my time. You how north chuck A day
Speaker 1: came full circle. We're on the last driven hunt and
Speaker 1: uh Tyler Emmett was filming cost pars because that's where
Speaker 1: all the action was, right, he was directing traffic all
Speaker 1: day long. He was also a hunter. Was interesting too
Speaker 1: about the hunters. Once they become hunters, don't expect them
Speaker 1: to drive another foot of ground ever in their lives.
Speaker 1: Like at those forty people, like I said, I'm like,
Speaker 1: hold on, there's only six of us. Like, we've been
Speaker 1: doing a lot better if we could get a couple
Speaker 1: of recruits on this team. You know, I got a dog.
Speaker 1: You know, we're a lot of the drivers young. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a couple of dudes that were older that
Speaker 1: were kind of life first, so I didn't ask questions.
Speaker 1: But you know, you just gotta wander, like you know,
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't have the right or the ability to
Speaker 1: own or use the fire him anymore because the past decisions.
Speaker 1: Maybe they just don't want to put the time and
Speaker 1: effort into going. You know, maybe screwed up on getting
Speaker 1: the paperwork. I don't know, but yes, there was definitely
Speaker 1: some you know, twelve year old with me, and which
Speaker 1: was cool. I actually have all those people. I think
Speaker 1: there was like four or five female participants and they
Speaker 1: were a couple. I think there was only one that
Speaker 1: was actually haunting the rest of them what we're doing
Speaker 1: the driving with me because you know, it was cool
Speaker 1: to see that that over there where you might think
Speaker 1: that you know, yeah, because you were saying it's real
Speaker 1: hard to get youngsters involved in hunting there just simply
Speaker 1: because they gotta wait so long to do it. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that you do all that, you gotta do your three years.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't mind the pushing, but it's really
Speaker 1: funny that they could wind up in a worse situation.
Speaker 1: They could wind up where they got thirty some hunters,
Speaker 1: they're down to two pushers. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: the same with like Seth Brody and anyone that's done
Speaker 1: deer drives in the you know, as you were younger,
Speaker 1: I remember having to be in the thick of it.
Speaker 1: When I started. They were like, chat, you go out
Speaker 1: and walk in the thick of the cat tails, and
Speaker 1: it seemed like that's all I was doing, and I
Speaker 1: just wanted to. We'd always switch off. Man, they push,
Speaker 1: she said, push, she said. I like pushing because a
Speaker 1: lot of times that's when you got shots, Like stuff
Speaker 1: would run back through the drive. A good push, smart buck,
Speaker 1: A good pusher gets some shooting for sure. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: used to have some rabbit drives. Dude, gotta be exciting, man,
Speaker 1: that we have this rabbit drive spot. It was this
Speaker 1: one stump. Whoever got that stub stump, whoever got that stump.
Speaker 1: It was like a stump that stood about six seven
Speaker 1: ft off the ground on the hillside. If you got
Speaker 1: that stump, you were going to get shoot. You know.
Speaker 1: I felt good being on that stump. Tyler's Pilman cost Bus.
Speaker 1: Cost Bus hasn't shot anything. Yeah, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Tyler's like, or Cosbers says, I can hear him, common
Speaker 1: Costper says yeah. Or Tyler's like, yeah, I got him,
Speaker 1: I can see him. He like actually points to this
Speaker 1: cow and calf moose coming. They like he gets him
Speaker 1: on camera. They pop right up in front, like fifty
Speaker 1: yards in front of coust Bars pulls the rifle up. Nothing,
Speaker 1: no click, nothing, and then the two animals just disappear
Speaker 1: into the woods and cost Barus turns around and before
Speaker 1: he can never even say anything, Tyler says, and the
Speaker 1: bluff leffed his face again, and he just smiled and
Speaker 1: lads and like it's gonna make for some great television.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to separate the mom in the calf, no,
Speaker 1: he uh. He had like an old Mauser style where
Speaker 1: the in the safe old Mileser style rifle and it's
Speaker 1: a very long throw those safeties, and he just hadn't
Speaker 1: thrown his safety all the way and so that he
Speaker 1: didn't fire his rifle. And oh yeah, it was great,
Speaker 1: it was great. We have we have had we had
Speaker 1: plenty of meat, so we didn't need to have another
Speaker 1: moose on the ground. I got one last one for you?
Speaker 1: What would be the norm? Like, what would be the
Speaker 1: It's hard to answer this, but like what's the most
Speaker 1: normal thing you're gonna make with a moose and laugh
Speaker 1: you're or not? Or like what's un normal preparation someone's
Speaker 1: gonna make for you? Not not counting canned outside of
Speaker 1: can I'd say probably something like a pot roast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very simple cooking over there just across the board. Across
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, I mean you can go. You know,
Speaker 1: they they have these you know, fancy market types, like
Speaker 1: a fancy market that we went to and it's like
Speaker 1: you walk in there, you might as well be in Bozeman, Montana.
Speaker 1: There's like a pizza place and uh um, you know
Speaker 1: uh hero place and you know, then there's a bar
Speaker 1: at the end. It's got all these different micro brewis's therapist.
Speaker 1: There's hanging from the ceiling, you know, some some Barton fabricae,
Speaker 1: a should metal work with some wood floors. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the world has become smaller, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because you just know what what the hip
Speaker 1: stuff is everywhere. So um, but the simple cooking. Give
Speaker 1: me a couple more examples of when you say simple cooking,
Speaker 1: because you make you make lating dishes. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's that simple, just like a lot of root vegetables simple.
Speaker 1: I mean those little bacon rolls that we that we
Speaker 1: cook is like it's like bacon and onion inside of
Speaker 1: a you know a little bit of bread. You did
Speaker 1: a big hunter stew at the hunt, right, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: did a big hunter stew. Um might have had a
Speaker 1: lot of ingredients because it had like some sausage and
Speaker 1: some meat and onions, potatoes, and then they actually garnished
Speaker 1: it with olives and sour cream, which was it kind
Speaker 1: of sounds like him, but when you do it, it
Speaker 1: was good. Um. But again, when I say simple, there's
Speaker 1: there's no spice. You're not gonna ever eat anything there
Speaker 1: you go, there's none of that. Yeah, you gotta go
Speaker 1: a long way to find a hallapanio in that country.
Speaker 1: Are there like repeated herbs like I don't know, parsley
Speaker 1: or dill, that par la, a lot of cold weather stuff?
Speaker 1: Are they like searing steaks on a grill? Yes, but
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get it medium rare? Yeah, it's still
Speaker 1: it's gonna be medium at minimum, and it might go
Speaker 1: a little farther. That's what I made for Thanksgiving. I
Speaker 1: think I maybe I don't know if I've ever made
Speaker 1: it for you. I made a blito misto, the Italian
Speaker 1: mixed boil. Oh, you never made it for me, but
Speaker 1: I know you've made it in the past. Is so good,
Speaker 1: so I'll tell you. Um, I made garlic sausages, so
Speaker 1: fresh garlic sausages. I took a bunch of antalope shoulders
Speaker 1: and corned it. I had a beef tongue that I
Speaker 1: had smoked my uh kid's body raises chickens. I had
Speaker 1: one of his chickens. I realized it probably wasn't enough chicken,
Speaker 1: so I had I bought a chicken, and I had
Speaker 1: wild oh, shoulder of a wild hog. You got all
Speaker 1: this in the one pot, But I did it. We're like,
Speaker 1: right when I woke up in the morning, I put
Speaker 1: my shanks game shanks, I put them in my oven
Speaker 1: degrees right when I woke up in the morning. And
Speaker 1: then my tongue was already done. Then I put my
Speaker 1: corn stuff in my slow cooker, and then I've made it.
Speaker 1: Then I made a super broth. In the end, I
Speaker 1: had a lot of stuff pre cooked. But in the
Speaker 1: end everything went into that super broth, but super broth
Speaker 1: like super foods, not like game stock. No. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean, like when is it super? Is it like
Speaker 1: more than three different animals? Super good? Three animals? Then
Speaker 1: you dump all that you don't and it's got all
Speaker 1: kinds of carrots, rou tobaga's turn ups, beats, taters, and
Speaker 1: you just and I bought these two huge platters of
Speaker 1: my wife hates. They got like little turkeys and stuff
Speaker 1: on them, and you just dump all that ship on
Speaker 1: the big platters and then you got toppings, so horseradish,
Speaker 1: a red saucea a green saucea moostarta like the fruit. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when you dig in, man, when you say you
Speaker 1: dump it on there, is it like big heap and
Speaker 1: pile of steaming? Is it like a stew meat pictures
Speaker 1: of seafood boil, But it's just all this crazy boiled
Speaker 1: chicken and shoulder and corn meat and sausages and a
Speaker 1: pig cow's tongue and a big mound it made two
Speaker 1: matching mounds. Is this something that's like prescribed or is
Speaker 1: it like, oh, we're gonna throw this, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: throw that, and we're gonna throw that. Well, if you
Speaker 1: go and read Bleat O Me still, you'll find all
Speaker 1: kinds of all kinds of lamol weight versions, and then
Speaker 1: you'll find heavy duty versions. Yeah. Like, my buddy had
Speaker 1: a restaurant turned me onto it. She used to offer it.
Speaker 1: You could, like you a big party could call his
Speaker 1: restaurant and he would do that. You had to call ahead,
Speaker 1: and it had to be a certain number, like it
Speaker 1: had to be like a minimum of twelve on blank night,
Speaker 1: and he would prepare this for you and he would
Speaker 1: just line like a like Yanni's wild Hog feed trough.
Speaker 1: He'd like lay that trial off to be just boiled
Speaker 1: vegetables and boiled meat one end to the other, with
Speaker 1: all kinds of dipping sauces. It's way caveman. But it's
Speaker 1: beautiful that we need to do that next year, Brody,
Speaker 1: because I think we had a lot of complaints. Even
Speaker 1: though I feel like I made the best turkey of
Speaker 1: my life, I wasn't. I didn't agree with the complaints
Speaker 1: on your turkey. But man, we'll talk about I'll tell
Speaker 1: you something that happened at my at the Ronella household. Please. Uh,
Speaker 1: my wife had her folks in talent, so she wasn't
Speaker 1: too keen on not she she wasn't down on the
Speaker 1: blietel me still, but she just knew there would be
Speaker 1: breaking tradition. Be like, she just knew. So the second night,
Speaker 1: eating leftovers, she said, it really is better than the
Speaker 1: traditional Thanksgiving meal. She had you back, Yeah, we had
Speaker 1: a traditionally. No, I don't think she did it like that.
Speaker 1: I think she actually, I think she came to see
Speaker 1: that it's a better tradition. And I pointed out there everybody,
Speaker 1: the Pilgrims don't eat turkeys. They didn't need an antelope.
Speaker 1: Pam though either was My kids were bitching. I told
Speaker 1: him this. I said, listen, here's one thing I can
Speaker 1: tell you about the Pilgrims. They made the best thing
Speaker 1: they could make. That's what I'm doing. Huh So very
Speaker 1: Christmas everyone. We got gifts though, Oh yeah, and the
Speaker 1: spirit of giving. Hayden's been very very generous. Put those
Speaker 1: in your store in there? Yeah, those are those are
Speaker 1: moreles from Montana. Uh, I guess kind of obviously cute. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I was driving with a hunter Spencer over
Speaker 1: here the other day and when we were talking a
Speaker 1: little bit about you know, it worked. There are always
Speaker 1: like difficulties and stuff like that, you know, and and
Speaker 1: and a lot of times you get like frustrated or whatever.
Speaker 1: But you know, we're driving through this canyon, and uh
Speaker 1: I made the comment that, like, you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like meat eater gave me all this, and so I
Speaker 1: wanted to, uh bring a little present or there were
Speaker 1: just a bunch of Morrell's hanging out behind my desk
Speaker 1: and I needed to get rid of a bunch of
Speaker 1: you very much. Yeah, maybe like a risotto with him,
Speaker 1: because it's a pretty small portion of Morrel. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make you're you're sticking your nose in there though. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make smells like the planet. I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: two omlets out of these, one for Danielle and one
Speaker 1: for myself. There you go, man, bear your nose in
Speaker 1: there real woody mm hmm. Thank you, Merry Christmas Hayden,
Speaker 1: thank thank you, thank you. Put a little a little
Speaker 1: dry thing in there. Oh yeah, I got a huge
Speaker 1: packet of him off Amazon. Sometimes if you don't do it,
Speaker 1: it gets kind of Yeah, they'll they'll get like you'll
Speaker 1: smell him and they'll be like they'll have like a
Speaker 1: funk too, like I'm not sure I want to Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you do that, but they stay good kind
Speaker 1: of indefinitely, what's good idea? Well, Yanni, thanks for the
Speaker 1: Laby report man, wonderful. Thanks Phil, were you listening? Of course?
Speaker 1: How do you say Christmas? Now? And then Phil likes
Speaker 1: an episode? I think he liked this episode. I forgot
Speaker 1: to ask he liked the Coronado Expert Top fifty at
Speaker 1: least yet he liked the Coronado Expert. What else it, Phil? Like?
Speaker 1: You like that one? Yeah? I liked your last year
Speaker 1: Buffer Zone ELK one. Yeah, that was basically like one
Speaker 1: seems like one you'd like because you like a guest. Well,
Speaker 1: just you kind of reflecting on the where do you like? Ephemeral?
Speaker 1: Seems to slip away as soon as you shoot that out.
Speaker 1: That was really moving. Those capper kales are those you
Speaker 1: can't hunt him right now enough population, which brings up
Speaker 1: another thing, the tag allocations there. They couldn't believe that
Speaker 1: we would only get like one or maybe two Elk
Speaker 1: tags to hunt here in our state because they're the
Speaker 1: club gets say two hundred stag tags and then a
Speaker 1: hundred moves tags. So the one guy that only hunts
Speaker 1: one or two driven hunts, he's probably never gonna pull
Speaker 1: the trig. You're never gonna shoot. But if your guy
Speaker 1: that gets after it, you can shoot pretty much. Because
Speaker 1: you shoot one, you call up your local dude, You're like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got one down, he drives over, puts a tag
Speaker 1: on it. You're on your married way the next day.
Speaker 1: We know that is how you do it. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: next day you're tag guy, meaning the guy with a
Speaker 1: pocket full of tags. Yeah, exactly. That's like the hunt leader,
Speaker 1: you know. And then the next day you're back at
Speaker 1: it hunting again if you want to. Is the hunt
Speaker 1: leader ever? Like, hey, how about you cooling a little bit?
Speaker 1: I mean he he had killed a nice like his
Speaker 1: biggest ever bowl moose earlier in the year before I
Speaker 1: got there, and he was like, yeah, I'm not shooting
Speaker 1: any more trophy. And yeah, he's like, I'll shoot cows
Speaker 1: and and hines. But like, I'm you know, I got
Speaker 1: someone else needs to shoot the trophy. Don't want to
Speaker 1: wear his wolcome out. Yeah, he didn't do any lid
Speaker 1: tossing in the bucket. We did not wrong time of year.
Speaker 1: What's merry Christmas in in Latvin. Zam a spat. Was
Speaker 1: she's really mouthful? Zma spat. It's a lot easier to
Speaker 1: say you sucked up. Yeah, Pats, that sounds like a
Speaker 1: phenomenal trip. Well, you guys are going I'll bring you
Speaker 1: another report in July. I'm glad you're going back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it should be good. Thank you man. The International Latvian
Speaker 1: Song and Dance Festival is going on. It's every five
Speaker 1: years and it's going on this this upcoming it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll be there for part of it. People say it's
Speaker 1: weird because like that can't I used to hang out
Speaker 1: with in Michigan called Gods, where there's you know, two
Speaker 1: thousand Latvian some weekends all hanging out. When you go
Speaker 1: to the International Song and Dance Festival and you're in
Speaker 1: regal Atvia, you might as well be at this camp
Speaker 1: in Michigan because you're like, hey, it's Steve Man. It's broady,
Speaker 1: like you know everybody that's just walking down the streets
Speaker 1: of because everybody goes to it. I've never been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you participate, you know. I decided not to because I
Speaker 1: think you just take too much time, Like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of practice involved, Like you got to be there
Speaker 1: for days ahead of times you want to. If you
Speaker 1: want to participate in the thirty thousand person Choir, which
Speaker 1: check it out on YouTube. There's plenty of videos of it.
Speaker 1: But I gotta, I gotta tribute question for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: what was the loudest sound ever heard by man? My
Speaker 1: brother walking behind me? Deer hunting good one, Heyden good one.
Speaker 1: Loudest sound ever heard by man? They think it was
Speaker 1: the eruption of crack. A loudest sound ever heard by man?
Speaker 1: Is that when my ears are ringing? Right now? Turn
Speaker 1: it off, Phil, Let's end on that A dreaming love.
Speaker 1: Some duk Limen like in the spots used to know
Speaker 1: wear blue whistle through spreads like missiles and masers came
Speaker 1: in with the snow m