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Speaker 1: What is going on? Welcome back to Retfresh. I'm Jake

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Speaker 1: Hoefer and we have some updates. It's December, it's not

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Speaker 1: November anymore, so you still have a tag, you're still

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Speaker 1: listen to this. It's time fundy rally caps, time to

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Speaker 1: hear what's going on. Here's some quick strategies on what

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Speaker 1: folks are looking to do for the following seven days.

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Speaker 1: We have Michael Perry from Alabama. We have Reeg Johnson

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Speaker 1: from Kentucky and Alice Comstock from Minnesota to give their updates.

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Speaker 1: My challenge is to refocus, reassess your current season, and

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Speaker 1: not necessarily low your standards, but be realistic and keep

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Speaker 1: scout and keep hanging cameras, figure out where the deer

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Speaker 1: are moving to as a constant, constant reshuffling up the deck.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like this is probably a clean new

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Speaker 1: starting point, especially if you just got a fresh coat

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Speaker 1: of snow. So let's kick things off. Michael Perry and Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, First, stuff on the line.

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Speaker 1: We have Michael Perry of Alabama. Michael, how's it going

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Speaker 1: going good? How y'all did doing great? Doing great? I

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Speaker 1: know things are heating up down in Alabama. I know

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Speaker 1: you already shot a buck here recently, so congratulations. But

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Speaker 1: we've been pretty focused on the Midwest, and I know

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Speaker 1: things are getting exciting in your neck of the woods,

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Speaker 1: so I wanted to bring you on.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: So what did you shoot your most recent buck here

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Speaker 1: in Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving morning?

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Speaker 1: Okay? What was that? What were you set up on?

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Speaker 3: I was set up on a like a I've full

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Speaker 3: on above a creek crossing that landatorally some blowdown points.

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Speaker 1: So okay, what's been kind of the general running activity

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Speaker 1: in Alabama in your neck of the woods here in

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days.

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Speaker 3: Well, that earlier area where we hunt, you know it's

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Speaker 3: right now, is on on fire. This a thousand times

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Speaker 3: different than last year because it's kind of weird. You know,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people say they don't like hunting when

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Speaker 3: the years have a bunch of mask crop. This year

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Speaker 3: we've had a bunch of mass crop, wet spraying, wet summer,

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Speaker 3: and them bucks are feeling good, are chasing people. Man,

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Speaker 3: it's been incredible the sightings and the harvest that has

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Speaker 3: took place the last couple of weeks. Is now I'm

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Speaker 3: looking forward to this next week because it could be

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Speaker 3: just as.

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Speaker 2: Good, just depending on how wet it is.

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Speaker 3: You know, some people kind of don't like the rain,

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Speaker 3: but it's but the root is hot and heavy. It's

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Speaker 3: there's one specific wm A and maybe another one that's

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Speaker 3: you know, we have an early rut in one.

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Speaker 2: Specific spot kind or maybe two.

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Speaker 3: So but now it's it's it's going hot and I

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Speaker 3: hope it's gonna continue like that in other parts of

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well do you think the deer And this

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Speaker 1: is just anyone's best guest here, but you know, the

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Speaker 1: deer activity has been really good with a lot of

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Speaker 1: mass crop. Is that because the deer were able to

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Speaker 1: you know, beef up and be super healthy going into

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Speaker 1: this fall.

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Speaker 2: I believe that's what is.

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Speaker 3: I believe they're so happy, they're full, they're I mean,

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Speaker 3: they just it's kind of cooling off now. They're just

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Speaker 3: that's the amount of sign and uh rubs and scrapes

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Speaker 3: and movement has It's crazy the difference between one year.

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Speaker 3: I mean people were tore up last year thinking that

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Speaker 3: they've been so visible and rubs again, like rubbs scrapes

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Speaker 3: was popping up everywhere, so and people are having success.

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Speaker 2: So it's that's it's awesome right now.

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Speaker 1: Is this one of the best ruts you you can

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Speaker 3: You think, yeah, man, I've only seen bucks chasing those

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Speaker 3: It's just but this time it was, I mean, it

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Speaker 3: was just amazing. The buck cacher his head down and

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Speaker 3: It was intense and y'all trying to get him stopping,

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Speaker 2: Shoot with the movie.

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Speaker 3: But it was but it was it was fun, exciting,

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Speaker 3: and that's just that's you know, them kind of hunts

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, they're ingrained in your brain forever. When

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Speaker 1: of really cool deer behaviors. So I mean, looking here,

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Speaker 1: Alabama for you know, the first week in December. As

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Speaker 1: you know, the rut's still rank you know, cranking, but

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Speaker 3: It'll it'll, it'll, it'll get better. Well, it should get

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Speaker 3: better because December second is my favorite day. All times

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Speaker 3: people ask me that they've asked me what week or whatever,

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Speaker 3: So I'll tell you to day in December second. I've

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Speaker 3: seen more chasing and stuff going on that day, So

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that time of the month and

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Speaker 3: being the same general management area that we're hunting.

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Speaker 2: And after the middle of December, we'll we'll move on.

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Speaker 3: But I expect this week that week to be hot too,

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Speaker 3: so long as the weather kind of hold out, and

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Speaker 3: it looks like it's gonna hold out pretty good. It

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Speaker 3: might rain some, but that that won't affect as long

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Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, I want you to think that

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Speaker 1: you did do any scouting. You are listening to this

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Speaker 1: right now and you're like, Okay, I have an Alabama tack.

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Speaker 1: I want to go try hunting this week, Michael, What's

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Speaker 1: the one thing I should look for? What's the one

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Speaker 1: thing I should try to do. I know my success

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Speaker 1: is not very likely because I haven't put in the work,

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Speaker 1: But if you give me one piece of advice, where

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Speaker 3: I just start walking, well, I'm jumping there, and hope

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Speaker 3: this is not worth up of them, and then maybe

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Speaker 3: walk fifty yards past where you're jumping and set up,

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Speaker 3: you know, just trying to find deer or fresh tracks.

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Speaker 3: Me what I would do if I was going somewhere

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Speaker 3: like that, hadn't kouted anything out of walk just maybe

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Speaker 3: if you're pretty good at looking at topo stuff, look

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Speaker 3: at kind of what you want to say, and then

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Speaker 3: let's take off walking till you jumping there, then set up.

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Speaker 2: They might have spend a couple of days ear So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how is that kind of your general plan? Are

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Speaker 1: to move on? Is that kind of what your mental

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: We have like designated gun days, so I'll spend I've

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Speaker 2: I'll spend the morning.

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Speaker 3: In one spot in that spot, and if I'll do

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Speaker 3: that for four days in a row, if I want to.

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Speaker 2: But it don't bother me to sip.

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Speaker 3: These type of crossings are pitch points four days in

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Speaker 3: take a few days, they might take a year or two.

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Speaker 3: But I mean just it's just not guaranteed. But that's

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Speaker 3: it works pretty good for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh, do you on album in public? Do you

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Don't on a grunting or anything like that? Are you

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Speaker 1: pretty much rattle rattle?

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Speaker 2: Grunt? People been using grunk call.

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Speaker 3: I've had several people send me pictures literally taken on

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Speaker 3: grunk calls or can calls, little doe bleats, that's do

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna hurt a thing.

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Speaker 1: It can help, so okay, So you don't think it's

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Speaker 1: you're off for trying it.

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Speaker 2: I'm all for trying. It will not hurt, trust me, Okay,

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Speaker 2: so it can definitely help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is there anything else that you want to share

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Speaker 1: here for folks for the next week, I mean on

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Speaker 1: the on a scale one to ten. Uh, December third

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Speaker 1: through the tenth in Alabama, where you're at ten being

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Speaker 1: the best week of the year, one being the one

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Speaker 2: I underten? I mean it's gonna it should be.

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Speaker 1: Good, man, so awesome.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I mean I'm hoping it should

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Speaker 1: So things are winding down here in the Midwest. So

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Speaker 1: exciting where you're at. So I wish you the very

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Speaker 1: best of luck. And then, uh, if people want to

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Speaker 1: follow along with on Instagram or anything with your season

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Speaker 1: and go check out the bucket you shot earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: Where's the best place for people to do that?

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Speaker 3: Uh, you can get me up under my name on Facebook.

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Speaker 3: Then eighteen Outdoors on Instagram and YouTube if you wanna

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Speaker 3: check it out.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, if I want to come on down South, come on,

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Speaker 3: because from now till February, it's gonna be hot different man, Flariers.

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Speaker 3: You know, you can hit me up message man, I'll

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Speaker 3: I'll try to help you out what I can.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, awesome, Well, Michael, I really appreciate it. People

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Speaker 1: want to watch your trophy room. They go to White

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Speaker 1: Tail Cribs and watch watch and here all your stories

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Speaker 1: all right. Next up in line we have Rhys Johnson

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Speaker 1: from Kentucky. I feel like all our guests has killed

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Speaker 1: a deer in Kansas, and so you're part of that club.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it is the Wonderland. It's hard to beat it.

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Speaker 4: It's my favorite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely So people are wrapping up their Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: you know, their back to reality, back to work. More

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Speaker 1: than likely November they did not do all the work

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Speaker 1: they probably should have done. You're probably guilty this to

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Speaker 1: some degree. And it's December now and you're in Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: What have you been seeing for activity here in you know,

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Speaker 1: the first part of December, very last couple of days

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Speaker 1: of November. I mean, is there any running activity that

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Speaker 1: get to food patterns.

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Speaker 4: Well, with this cold front that we've had a little

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Speaker 4: But that being said, you know that traditionally, one, you know,

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Speaker 4: there are some second second dough, you know, second whatever

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Speaker 1: What's been one of the biggest things you've learned this?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. So looking here for the next seven days, scale

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Speaker 4: I'm optimistic, I really I'm hopeful. This is some of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, I love it. We've had higher scores this

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Speaker 1: If people want to follow along with your season, Where's

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Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, just reached Johnson seven on Instagram or find

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Speaker 1: Right on reasonable good luck, I have give one all right.

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Speaker 1: how's it going doing good? How are you doing doing great?

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Speaker 1: It's December. I don't know how I feel about it,

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Speaker 5: It's I can't believe a fast and flew by, and

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Speaker 5: cameras are in areas I had them set up for

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00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,800
Speaker 5: like still like the rut end of the rut, So

436
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,879
Speaker 5: I need to get out, grab pretty much all my

437
00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,840
Speaker 5: cameras and reallocate them essentially.

438
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So in Minnesota, where where are some key spots

439
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 1: for you to relocate these cameras because I feel like

440
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 1: just about everyone probably needs to do the camera reshuffle

441
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 1: right now.

442
00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, where I'm at, there's no like agfields or anything.

443
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,040
Speaker 5: So I hunt a couple of different types of like subsets.

444
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,160
Speaker 5: So I've got a lot of my stuff was suburban,

445
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 5: so like in town and everything, and so there's kind

446
00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,360
Speaker 5: of just there's known areas that a lot of times

447
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,440
Speaker 5: people are feeding deer once snow's on the ground, And

448
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,119
Speaker 5: obviously you can't hunt like over people's feed, but you

449
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,880
Speaker 5: kind of treat neighborhoods in areas it's like destination food

450
00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,080
Speaker 5: sources and backtrack from there and no where betting is

451
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 5: and stuff like that. And then I've got one spot

452
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,919
Speaker 5: that I'm hunting with a food plot and it's new

453
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 5: to me. Actually my buddy. It's my buddy's property that

454
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 5: he sold, but I have rights to it and he doesn't.

455
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 5: It's a very really weird deal, but he pretty much

456
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 5: planned me this food plot that I have to go

457
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 5: put a camera on, and then just natural brows. There's

458
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 5: a lot of buck thrown around here and stuff like

459
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 5: that that like to snack on in the in the winter,

460
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 5: So it's kind of for me. There's a lot of

461
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 5: areas that I've hunted in the past that I'm going

462
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 5: to just kind of get cameras too. And a nice

463
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 5: thing with the snow early this year is I can

464
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 5: scout as I would for like a true late season,

465
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 5: and figure out where they're betting and moving in between,

466
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 5: and get a bunch of cameras out.

467
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 1: The snow tells us a lot, I mean, whether you

468
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: like it or not. I mean, the snow just can

469
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: tell you a bunch. Now, for people who are suburban

470
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: hunting and something similar to what you're doing, how long

471
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: is the line of movement typically on these bucks from

472
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 1: where they're betting up. I know it's situational, but is

473
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 1: there like an example of like, man, they really only

474
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: move one hundred yards or they running or moving like

475
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: five hundred yards from the nearest block of cover to go. Yeah,

476
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 1: I'd say it's definitely situational.

477
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 5: There are areas that it's close, but I would say

478
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 5: generally speaking, you know that four to thousand yards, like,

479
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 5: they'll move further than people think, especially up here when

480
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 5: and when we do get a lot of snow, it's

481
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 5: nice because the deer do seem to get concentrated, and

482
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 5: so they'll kind of have their set couple of trails,

483
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,040
Speaker 5: you know, and if you can find them, And what

484
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 5: I'll do is I'll get cameras up and let's say

485
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 5: I've got a buck hitting at you know, right this

486
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 5: time of year is getting dark, both say five o'clock,

487
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,919
Speaker 5: they've got a deer hitting at seven a bunch. Then

488
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 5: I'll just kind of backtrack and work my way closer

489
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 5: and closer to bet until I can.

490
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: Find them in daylight.

491
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: Or bump them and ruin it. Yeah, yeah, for sure,

492
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: that's Uh, it always feels like late season. It just

493
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: the deer pressure. They've played the game, and it can

494
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: ma it can beautiful, it works out. But how how

495
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 1: much do you how much are you concerned about screwing

496
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: things up this time of the year too, because it's

497
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, like we're entering I feel like we're entering

498
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: the late season chapter of the year for much of

499
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: the Midwest, probably like two or three weeks earlier than

500
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: what it typically feels like. So it's like we have

501
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: a long time for late season, but we're getting to

502
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: head start on like that segment of the season. Yeah.

503
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 5: I love it because, like especially up here in northern Minnesota,

504
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 5: the last two years, we haven't had much snow at all,

505
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 5: which has made late season really tough and I've killed

506
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 5: a lot of deer in December. I love late season,

507
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 5: and so the cold in the more snow we get,

508
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 5: the better. As far as like being worried about ruining something,

509
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 5: if I'm after a specific buck, I'll be a lot

510
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 5: more worried and just be a little more careful. For

511
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 5: this year, for example, like I haven't there's not one

512
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 5: single buck that I'm really trying to kill. So I'm

513
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 5: gonna be a little bit more aggressive and really try

514
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 5: to figure out where these deer bety and and get

515
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 5: in tight and and if I blow one out, I'll

516
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 5: just kind of move on cause I've kind of got

517
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 5: pockets of private and public and you know, I'm gonna

518
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 5: have I don't even know how many cameras out a

519
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 5: lot and a lot of scouting, and if I ruined

520
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 5: a deer, then I really not going to care.

521
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you find do you find liberty in that?

522
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 1: Like a little less stress?

523
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: Nice?

524
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 5: It's nice and not like especially for a year like

525
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 5: this year I've had it in Minnesota, especially a terrible

526
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 5: It's been a really tough season.

527
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean I literally haven't had an encounter. It's mature buck.

528
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 5: And you know the years when you're after a buck,

529
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 5: it's kind of something like driving you even if you've

530
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 5: had a crappy year, you kind of have that deer

531
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 5: to target. But as we move towards the end of

532
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 5: the year here, and I don't really have you know,

533
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 5: I've got a couple of different bucks that I know

534
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 5: of that I would love to shoot. But when you

535
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 5: don't have that one, even chasing for two three years

536
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 5: or something. It is kind of nice where it's just like,

537
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 5: you know, we're going to see what happens and see

538
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 5: what we can make some eye.

539
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. Let's see as far as you know,

540
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: your success in previous Decembers, is it pretty much boiled

541
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: down to the food and cold weather and having snow?

542
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: Is that like the ninety ten of like you got

543
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 1: to have that in order for it to.

544
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 5: Work exactly for me, the colder it is, the more

545
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 5: snow we have, the better, you know. I just like

546
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 5: thinking about, you know, some of the bucks I've killed

547
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 5: in December. You know, I can just think off a

548
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 5: couple off the top of my head that was like

549
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 5: I'm talking negative twenty, negative thirty.

550
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: Tons of snow, you know, feet of it.

551
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 5: It sucks for every other aspect, right, like just driving

552
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 5: around snowblowing life, But when it comes on, mean like

553
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 5: give it all to me.

554
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: I like it.

555
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: How do you stay warm? Do you have any tips

556
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: for staying warm?

557
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

558
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 5: I mean I've done everything. I mean, at some level,

559
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: you've got to be wearing good gear, you know, like

560
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 5: you don't want to be just going and grab that

561
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 5: fifty dollars jacket off the shelf and Walmart. Obviously, there's

562
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 5: so many different brands out there that are really good

563
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 5: and having just layering right and having the proper footwear

564
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 5: if you have a legitimate walk to the tree, Like

565
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 5: even if it's really really cold, you know, I'll wear

566
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 5: my bib. I'm not where I hardly ever wear my

567
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 5: outer layer jacket to the tree, trying to stay you know,

568
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 5: as dry as you can, because when it's really really cold,

569
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 5: I mean, you don't want to sweat it all if

570
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 5: you can help it. They're like little tips like I

571
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 5: use actually in my boots. I use a ug sheepskin

572
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 5: liner that I've worn for like five years and it's.

573
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: I love it.

574
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 5: I'll use when on this on the when I'm talking

575
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 5: negative twenty thirty like in North Dakota. I'll have the

576
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 5: body warmers, the handwarmers, I'll tape them. I'll appeal and

577
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 5: stick big ones you know, all over the place, like

578
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 5: anything you can do to give a little bit of

579
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 5: extra warmth, you know, if you're and then I also

580
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: don't sit for long, right, I'm not gonna go try

581
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 5: to pull an all days sit or something, you know, brutal. Yeah,

582
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: you gotta utilize you know, obviously this time of year

583
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 5: most often hot in the evenings and you're sitting for

584
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 5: the last hour and a half two hours and staying

585
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 5: warm and trying to shoot a deer. Do use rubber

586
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 5: boots in late season, like the like you know, like

587
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 5: the lacrosse Yeah, yeah, I have worn lacrosse. I'll wear MUCKs,

588
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 5: I'll wear any kind of rubber boot. And then I

589
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 5: do have a pair of actual I don't know how

590
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: we call them, just like boot boots that I've I've

591
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 5: never really used them before, and I'm gonna I got

592
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 5: a pair of this year. I'm gonna give a try

593
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: and see what the difference is.

594
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: I like it.

595
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: So looking here over the next seven days and Minnesota,

596
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 1: the cold the cold North scale one to ten, ten

597
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: being the best week of the year, one being one

598
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: of the worst weeks of the year. Weather considered, you know,

599
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: all factors considered, Where do you put this next seven

600
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: days out? You know?

601
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 5: For me, I base it all off the weather and

602
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 5: looking at it right now, it's gonna be pretty cold.

603
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 5: I mean Saturday, the sixth below is negative three. We've

604
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: got it looks like handful up till like five six

605
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 5: more inches coming over the weekend. So I'll be optimistic

606
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna give it a five right now. Okay,

607
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 5: And that's off you know, no current intel other than

608
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 5: just basing it what I would say, off the conditions,

609
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a We'll go

610
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 5: five and a half. I want to get above I

611
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 5: want to get above a five.

612
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: Okay, the uh, the scores this week were way better

613
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: than what I have anticipated that I've told the other

614
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: guests like, hey, we all need this positivity right now.

615
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: We all need uh to think that it could happen,

616
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: because it certainly could well. And one thing to this

617
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: third through the tenth, you know, I usually think of

618
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: it as like the fifth the fourteenth generally speaking, is

619
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: there are gonna be those dose you know, cycling through. Again.

620
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 5: I'm not banking my hunting off like the second rut,

621
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 5: but if you can get into pockets where you know,

622
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 5: be a bunch of does and you just kind of

623
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 5: never know what could happen in that scenario for dos

624
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 5: cycling through, So something to keep in the.

625
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: Back of your head too. Yeah, absolutely, well, good luck, Alex.

626
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: Hopefully you turn one up here in late season. You

627
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: never know who's going to show up. If you find

628
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: the right food and if people want to fall along

629
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: with what you have going, where is the best place

630
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: to do that.

631
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 5: Either YouTube, whitetail, DNA if you just type that in,

632
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 5: or Apple Podcasts, Spotify every your podcasts as well.

633
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: So awesome. Well, thank you so much, Alex, good luck

634
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Appreciate it. Thanks Jake. All Right,

635
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: there you guys have I hope you guys enjoyed this

636
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: week of ret fresh. Hopefully this week find something positive.

637
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a deer that you thought was dead shows

638
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: back up on camera, maybe you find a new deer

639
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: on a prime late season food source, or maybe you

640
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: just get out there and you start filling the freezer

641
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: with some dos. If you have a lot of DOS

642
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: in your area, I would say be really sensitive to

643
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,959
Speaker 1: whether you're in an area where EHD has been an

644
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: issue and at that point maybe to start building for

645
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: the future. So hope you guys have a great week.

646
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 1: We'll see you here next Wednesday. Seam m HM