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Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast. My guys, not mega wond

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Speaker 1: have been welcome to Thanks Dad. I was raised by

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Speaker 1: a single mom and don't have a relationship with my dad.

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Speaker 2: I'm shutting up to the intro.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so on this podcast, I'm sitting down with father

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Speaker 1: figures who are old enough to be my dad or

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Speaker 1: are just dads themselves. I'll get to ask the questions

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted to ask a dad, like, Hey Dad,

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Speaker 1: how do I know if this guy I'm dating is

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Speaker 1: right for me?

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Speaker 2: Hey dad?

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Speaker 1: With a fuck Ben, I said, I'll get to ask

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Speaker 1: the questions. No, I'll get to ask the questions I've

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Speaker 1: always wanted to ask a dad, not my dad and

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Speaker 1: the other any wa wait, you get it. You get

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Speaker 1: the picture, guys. In twenty twenty five, my next guest

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Speaker 1: will premiere his next stand up special on Hulu and

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Speaker 1: we'll be making his Broadway debut in Glengarry Glenn Ross

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Speaker 1: alongside Kieran Culkin and Bob Odenkirk. Please welcome my Dad

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Speaker 1: for the day, Bill Burr. Bill, don't act like you

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Speaker 1: just got here?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: No, don't act like you just got here? I'm good?

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Speaker 2: How are you? I I'm good.

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Speaker 1: You think I'm uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: No, I get it. I get it. It's like what happened.

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Speaker 2: He was traumatic. So now you feel you need to

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Speaker 2: control every inch of things.

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Speaker 1: Look at me surrendering control.

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Speaker 2: You're just doing yoga perces.

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Speaker 1: I'm surrendering control again. I do think that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Do I seem calmer now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we're calm.

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Speaker 2: You missed it, nail.

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Speaker 1: Shut the hell bill. Do you think you have a

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Speaker 1: little black in you? No? None, I say that because

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Speaker 1: you noticed my nail. I feel like white guys don't

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Speaker 1: notice things like that.

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Speaker 2: They're glitter gold on one and just one. And then

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Speaker 2: it's also the middle finger, which is weird because you

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Speaker 2: think you want you'd have the Yeah, you'd want to

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Speaker 2: like if you flip somebody off, Yeah, that you would

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Speaker 2: want people to see.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, no I did it. This one fell

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Speaker 1: off this morning on my way here, and I remember

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Speaker 1: thinking I really need to get them done. But I

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Speaker 1: also thought the dads I'm talking to today are not

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Speaker 1: even they're not even gonna notice. And the first thing

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a positive sech.

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Speaker 2: I can't have you going to school looking like that

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Speaker 2: because people are going to say, you gotta get picked on.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I am by my dad by you? Okay, Bill,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Did you have a dad yeah, that

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Speaker 1: you had a relationship with.

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: What was he like?

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Speaker 2: Uh? He was an old school dad.

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Speaker 2: And like you know, like before all of all of

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Speaker 1: What would make your dad blow his stack? What types

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Speaker 1: So out of straight up out of a movie, a

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what goes on. It's those old

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Speaker 2: going to be like, I'm gonna have to put out

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Speaker 1: You know what? Honestly, I was going to say that

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Speaker 2: No, you said that you were going to be talking

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Speaker 2: If I liked myself, I wouldn't do I do for

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Speaker 1: Stop that's not truthless to stop it. That's not don't

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Speaker 1: say that. No, you like yourself building by now you

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Speaker 2: No, probably go back to Linda Blair. Yeah, it didn't

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Speaker 1: to rehash that. Do you go to therapy though? Because

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Speaker 2: No. I've gone to therapy in hardcore for sometimes on

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I can you know what? You

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Speaker 2: Why did you ask me if I was in therapy?

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Speaker 2: Because I wanted to ask what the answer is?

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Speaker 1: Don't need to disparage them. It's like, if there's something you.

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Speaker 2: people were terrible. It's it's just like, you know, twenty

438
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 2: of those things in a row, and then you got

439
00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 2: to sort of, like with like kid gloves, be like, Okay,

440
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: what are the odds you'd work in twenty different places

441
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 2: and everybody there where assholes and they were out to

442
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,639
Speaker 2: get you. So you've got to figure out why you

443
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 2: keep ending up, you know, at odds with everybody. But like.

444
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: You've done a better job with your temper and you

445
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 1: have awareness now it sounds like you've just.

446
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I got this childish thing where I want

447
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 2: to get credit for my wife, like, hey, I haven't

448
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 2: flipped out in four days, huh, which you know? How

449
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: about it? How about a no because I need.

450
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: The ATA boy okay, okay, affirmation, you need the affirmation

451
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:34,959
Speaker 1: of the pot.

452
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I didn't get any of that growing up,

453
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 2: so I need So I am constantly like I remember

454
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: one of the worst things when I first started getting

455
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: acting jobs. Yeah, you know, and they would and cut

456
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 2: and then I'd have to it was that good? Was

457
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: that all? Because it was completely opposite of comedy, where

458
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: comedy it's like, you know and punchline and laugh. Okay,

459
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: it was good and punchline and nothing.

460
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: Okay, that's so.

461
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like, you know, when somebody's directing something like

462
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: you don't realize when you first get your first acting job,

463
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: like the director has to answer every question on said yes,

464
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: So they're only going to talk to you if it's

465
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: not going well. So if you were like insecure like me,

466
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 2: they weren't talking to me. So I was kind of

467
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: like and then and then you go up to them

468
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: and then they're looking at you, like, where's that confident

469
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 2: guy from the audition. I'm not going to hold your

470
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: hand through this shit. So I kind of learned after

471
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 2: a while, like that was like a big thing for me,

472
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: Like with acting, where it's just like all right, Bill,

473
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 2: nobody's talking to you, don't freak out. That means they

474
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 2: liked what you did. And because I grew up in

475
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: an era of like it was just adults, well like

476
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: like this, you know, doing this shit that like, uh,

477
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: I don't like being controlled, and I don't like controlling people.

478
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,959
Speaker 2: So I like people like it's a weird thing, you know,

479
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: it's a weird thing to kind of have that vibe

480
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: and also not take shit. Those three things don't control me.

481
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to control you, but I'm also not

482
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: taking shit from you, right, So then you kind of

483
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 2: have to be like, you know, sort of assess the

484
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: information that's coming at you, where is it coming from.

485
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: But like I definitely I had a great time to

486
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: both times that I directed, although it was an overwhelming

487
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 2: amount of work the first time I did it because

488
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: I had no idea what I was walking in.

489
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,239
Speaker 1: Sure, Okay, Well, speaking of that and how you are

490
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: as a director and what you're describing where you're like

491
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't like being controlled. I'm not going to control you.

492
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: I won't take shit. Are you like that as a

493
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 1: dad where you're like, are you kind of like do

494
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: your thing.

495
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? Do this thing? But then there is

496
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: a line. But the thing about it is I overcorrected

497
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 2: a little bit a lot of times. Three times I

498
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: have to say it like I'll be like I'm serious

499
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: and they kind of look at me like you no,

500
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm sitting then you know. I don't like raising my voice,

501
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: but I do if I have to, you know, because

502
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they are kids, and

503
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: it's just like they do need boundaries and stuff like that.

504
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: So I'm definitely I would say more of the of

505
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: the two of us, I'm probably the more of the pushover.

506
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: You're more of the pushover. Yeah, so when your wife

507
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: says it one time, they know, like Mom's not playing.

508
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: When there when mom says to do something, we know

509
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: Mom's not playing my wife is.

510
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: The thing about me and my wife is are both

511
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: very silly, funny people, so where you know, and so

512
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: our kids are silly and funny. So it does sometimes

513
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: my wife.

514
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: Just you know, she has to clap Okay, Yeah, I'm

515
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: not playing.

516
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

517
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I do to my dog.

518
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she claps like like sometimes yeah, they just

519
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: get like you know, they're all amped up on whatever.

520
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: They just ate or they're just they're overtired or something

521
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: and they're not focusing. So she has to do something

522
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 2: to get them to Uh. Oh, mom's talking and she's serious,

523
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: but it's My wife sent me a picture of my son.

524
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: It was hilarious, like he was at a playdate and

525
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: they had this little inflatable like bed type of thing

526
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: that you lay in the pool in. Yeah, and he

527
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: had sunglasses on. He had his legs Crasy's four years

528
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: old legs cross and he was laying like that with

529
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: the sunglasses on. It literally looked like FBI surveillance, like

530
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: a mob boss. And I remember looking at it going

531
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: like I was so happy as a dad, going like

532
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: he doesn't have trauma, so he can chill.

533
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, he can chill.

534
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: So that's the thing where I say like it like

535
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: you know where it ends with me, Like anytime I

536
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: go on a vacation, like yeah, it takes me like

537
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: two and a half days to realize why people go

538
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: on vacation, And then I get so relaxed that by

539
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: the end of it, I don't want to.

540
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: Go back right, So wait when you say, okay, I

541
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: understand the whole sentiment that it ends with you and

542
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: like that must have felt good to be like, oh, yeah,

543
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: he's getting he's getting to relax because we haven't fucked

544
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: him up so bad that he's stressed and he's laying

545
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: he's got his arms crossed behind his head. Were you

546
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: like scared to be a dad because of what you

547
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: had experienced? Did you, like, and you said it about

548
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: directing too, You're like, I didn't know what I was doing.

549
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: Did you have any of that about becoming a parent?

550
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: Where you're like, I have no idea. I'm kind of no.

551
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: I always knew I was going to be a great dad.

552
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: I just didn't know how to do it. I didn't

553
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: know how to like, yeah, sustain. I mean I was

554
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: completely like all of my emotions were like paved over.

555
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: So I was romantic and could totally fall head over

556
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: heels in love with somebody in my head, but to

557
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: actually like be with somebody, it took me a long

558
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: time to figure out, like how to do it.

559
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's embarrassing.

560
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: One of my first girlfriends back when I had hair,

561
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: she went to like rubber hands.

562
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Were you a redhead by the way, Yeah, she.

563
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: Went to rubb her you know, put her hands through

564
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: my hair and the second hand came up like that,

565
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: I like flinched or whatever. And I didn't even know

566
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: I did it. Yeah, And I asked to rub my

567
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: head one day. You never rub my head, she goes,

568
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: I didn't think you liked it because there was because

569
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: you flinched, but like it was just from growing up, if.

570
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: Someone reached for you, it was not to rub your head.

571
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that wasn't like necessarily my parents that were

572
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: more like you know, kids were wild, like they were

573
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 2: just let outside and you just like you know, everybody

574
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 2: like I grew up, everybody had at least three to

575
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: six or seven kids. Yeah, So the dad would go

576
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: to work and the mothers would be going nuts. So

577
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 2: they would just open the door, just go outside and play.

578
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: Get out of here right right, don't come.

579
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: Home till it's lunch. And they would just send you

580
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 2: out there, and you would just go out there with

581
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 2: your and you it was funny, like there was no

582
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: calling people up. You just went outside and then you

583
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: saw your friends and then you hung out and then

584
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: you met other friends and then you just with your

585
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: little kid brains decided what you were going to do. Yeah.

586
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly, going outside was the activity it was. I

587
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: remember that from my childhood too, and I'm like, street lights,

588
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: come on, you're going back home, But you go outside.

589
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: We would play in the woods. We would just we

590
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: would make up games. It was a very very different.

591
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: Then you'd run into bigger kids and then they would

592
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: bully you, beat the shit out of you, break your toys,

593
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 2: and it was just like it was just that you

594
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: did just like what it was. It was like the

595
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: fucking serengetti, you know during the dry season. You know,

596
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: it's like you just sitting head on a swivel, bigger cakes.

597
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: Oh little kids. Oh now I get to be the asshole,

598
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: you know. It was just it was just this sort

599
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: of what is what is that? What is that fucking

600
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: that book about the kids that all end up on

601
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: the island together and yea very lord of the flies strong,

602
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: you know, survival of the fittest sort of thing. When

603
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 2: you went outside.

604
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that days, and I bet you it

605
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: was even more that when you were coming up, truly than.

606
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you used to hear even big kids. That

607
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: was the thing. What happened to you big kids, right,

608
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: and you would just run, You would run from them,

609
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: you would hide, and then they would walk by and

610
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: be like oh thank god, you know, like literally like

611
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: a tiger just went by and you were definitely that

612
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: was the weird thing like of that because it was

613
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: just kids of all age groups. So at one moment

614
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: you were predator. At other moment you will pray. It's

615
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 2: just like and then you appears and it was just

616
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: like it changed, you know, and and other people's dads

617
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: could hit you and ship.

618
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: It just was I heard stories about that, by the way,

619
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: which I'm like disciplined.

620
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: It's what they said. They she thought.

621
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: It was normal back then, right if someone else's dad

622
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: hits you, you'd be like, yeah, I.

623
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: Just in general was uh chill and quiet around dad's.

624
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: Okay, that was my thing because they will. You just

625
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: thought dads were voltile from your understanding. You're like, dads

626
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: are unpredictable and violence.

627
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to knock you across the fucking room

628
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: and uh, two seconds later, like tell you a joke.

629
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: Well, that shit doesn't feel safe.

630
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: No, it didn't. Yeh. Here's the thing too, it probably

631
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: wasn't like that. This is me remembering it as a kid.

632
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: That's what it felt like. Sure, sure, because you know

633
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: they like was when I actually realized a long time

634
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: because my memory of my childhood and the adults I

635
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: interacted with their memory like it's two completely different things

636
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: and neither one of them is real.

637
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: Because you're like two sides of the truth.

638
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's somewhere in the middle. Is really what happened,

639
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 2: right right?

640
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: But you don't want your kids to fear you at all,

641
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: Like that's you don't want them to no, not yet,

642
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: but like you want them to respect you of course

643
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: or I'm guessing I don't want to put that on you.

644
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, my kids they definitely respect me. But like

645
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: one of my stronger points as a parent, I got

646
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: a lot of weak points, but one of my stronger

647
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: points is sey it's not liking myself. I can't compliment

648
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 2: myself unless I share on myself.

649
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: When people compliment you, do you like, yeah?

650
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: I literally like my I guess one of my sneakers

651
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: because I go, oh, thanks a lot, thank you.

652
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: Saying yeah, deflect, do you deflect? You don't do deflect

653
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: do like I feel like I used to do a thing.

654
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: If someone was like I like your shirt, I'm like,

655
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: thank you. Oh it was five dollars from whatever place.

656
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Because now I don't want to talk about it, but yeah, yeah,

657
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: but so okay, you're strong. One of your strong suits

658
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: as a parent.

659
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: You were going to say, I remember what it was

660
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: like to be a kid. Okay, So like just little

661
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: things like if you know my daughter or my son

662
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: is getting ready to go to school and they don't

663
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 2: like this shirt, like I go, all right, change it,

664
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: because I don't want you going to school not liking

665
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: what you're wearing. Because if you don't like what you wear,

666
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: you're not going to be confident and the other kids

667
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: are going to sense it and then you're going to

668
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: become frank. Yeah. And I also tell you know, I

669
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: teach them how to stick up for themselves.

670
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: Sure, sure are you do? You know you know about that?

671
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't.

672
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a meme, if it's a

673
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: trope form movies, if it's a real thing from childhood.

674
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: People's parents who were like, if that person tries to

675
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: fight you, you fight them, and if they beat you, up.

676
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm beating you up, So go up there.

677
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't do that.

678
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: Of course, you would not beat a kid up.

679
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: Although defense to the people that did that, the stakes

680
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: in my neighborhood weren't as high.

681
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So like.

682
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: That was the thing that I noticed that I grew

683
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: up in the suburbs of Boston, and the closer you

684
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: got to Boston, the further the line was as far

685
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: as what you would do in a fight.

686
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: M okay, okay.

687
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because they were playing the game, it was almost

688
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: like playing sports. It's like we're playing at the junior

689
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: high level. Now it's high school. Now, it keeps getting faster,

690
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: it hits a harder. Can you still compete? So?

691
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: Uh, can them are ruthless? But what are your other

692
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: strong suits? As a parent, so knowing.

693
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: What was involved, I learned a lot of things through

694
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: doing stand up as well as far as like how

695
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: my brain works. So I sort of apply things that

696
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: I've learned through like stand up and working on weaknesses

697
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So like with sports. So I

698
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: do a lot of shit with my kids. So we

699
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: ride bikes, we play drums. You know, I played drums

700
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: and I got guitars and stuff, so they're interacting with instruments.

701
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: And then what I do with them with like sports,

702
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: was they're both naturally right handed, so when I first

703
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: took them out to play baseball, I set them up

704
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: left handed so they're more comfortable left handed. But then

705
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 2: when I get them to try and switch hit, it

706
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: doesn't feel not familiar, And I feel like it's a

707
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: it's a good thing for their their brain, that it's growing,

708
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: that it's accessing like both sides or whatever, if that's

709
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: even how that your brain works. But I just know

710
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: it exposing them with different languages and stuff like that,

711
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: as far as like trying to keep as much of

712
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: the stuff open to you know, gain like more knowledge.

713
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: So and I do a lot of things through like

714
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: making it funny and making it like a game. And

715
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: then when they're done with it, I let them be

716
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: done with it. I don't be like you're going to

717
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: take twenty jump shots from Oh you're not going back

718
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: in the house. I never do that type of stuff.

719
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: I always keep it fun and like, you know, my

720
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: daughter likes to do that that ninja those ninja warrior

721
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: like things.

722
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: Challenges, Yeah, like those what do you call those things

723
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: are obstacle course.

724
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's like blowing up and there's all these

725
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: kids out there that want to get on that TV

726
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: show and then you just see it. It's I'm looking

727
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: at it like like when I was growing up, or

728
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like when you know, sports really

729
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: exploded in the seventies as far as like multi million

730
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: dollar contracts and all of a sudden, athletes making a

731
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: million dollars a year was like insane. Just a million

732
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: was insane back then. So then you started getting the

733
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: overbearing parent, and then you started seeing kids that were

734
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: twelve years old getting Tommy John surgery from throwing fucking curveballs,

735
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: and it's just like, what are you doing? So I'm

736
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: seeing a little bit of that, yah with the Ninja training,

737
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: where there's there's you know, my daughter will see something,

738
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 2: you know where a dad like builds some insane obstacle course.

739
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: You know, I come out here every day and dada

740
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: da da da da, and I train and it's like, yeah,

741
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: all right, what are you doing? Right? Like why does

742
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: everything have to be that shit we were talking about earlier?

743
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: Get the bag? Yeah, And it's just like I am

744
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: a big believer that your kids should have a fund,

745
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: should have fun, yes, and play, and there shouldn't be

746
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: like these crazy amounts of steaks and all of that

747
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 2: crap and press yeah and all of that dumb shit,

748
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Like there's all of this stuff on the internet about

749
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 2: like see this is why kids a so so today

750
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: and that basically you have to like low level abuse

751
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: your kids to make them tough enough to go out there.

752
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 2: It's really a reaction to how heartless the corporate world

753
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 2: is and what they're doing to people and how like

754
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: and the shit that corporations do that is somehow legal,

755
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: like firing somebody, Like I fired ten people, and I

756
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 2: saved the company all this money because there's twenty people

757
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: here and I just fired ten of them, and then

758
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: I make ten people do twenty people's work. Look at

759
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: all the money I saved. And then the ten people

760
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: I fire, I take their salaries is my bonus at

761
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: the end of the year. Like how is that fucking legal?

762
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: You know? And I don't have the answers. I'm gonna

763
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: go ahead and say I don't.

764
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: And that's why what I fucking drives me up the

765
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: wall is all these people they sit there and they

766
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: look at like homeless people and people in the street,

767
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: people doing like breaking entries and all how like that shit, Oh,

768
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: because it's so obvious that you shouldn't do that, right,

769
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: But like that corporate stuff is so clean, it's so clean,

770
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: and it's it's like this, it's this quite like that

771
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: crime happens. It's this quiet, but it's not it's not

772
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 2: like a crime.

773
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: So it to become normalized, is what you're saying. It's

774
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: we accept it. It's another thing that you seem.

775
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I kind of pulled back from politics and

776
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: everything where I'm just like these these people screaming at

777
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 2: the left and the right. It's just it's like you

778
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: should be trying to unite people to then look at

779
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: the handful of fucking assholes with insatiable greed at the

780
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: top of a lot of these corporations, what they're doing

781
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: to people in h Like I don't know, I've limited

782
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: understanding of how economy works or whatever, but the money's

783
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: out there, the money, it just shifts hands. So it's

784
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: just like money's tight right now, money's this right now.

785
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 2: That just always means somebody took too much.

786
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm right, somebody took too much.

787
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 2: And then everybody, and then it becomes the Lord of

788
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: the Flies thing. Yeah, and then people blame. What they

789
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: can see is.

790
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: That you have two kids, is it I should ask

791
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: that earlier, but I got the sense is that really

792
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: something important to you though, to like instill political awareness

793
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: or or this this sort of thing in the minds

794
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: of your kids. Obviously I don't.

795
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't talk from about politics, but

796
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: I do answer their questions honestly.

797
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: Really, okay, you don't try to sugarcoat anything. Do your

798
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: kids believe Santa exists? Or are they? How old are they?

799
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? They they figured out they figured out the Easter bunny.

800
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 2: My daughter did, but she was just going, like, you know,

801
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: I was at school, like, is Easter Bunny real? This

802
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: kid said, the Easter Bunny isn't real?

803
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

804
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: Is it real? My wife was like hemn and haunts.

805
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: She goes, no, I want to know. I want to know,

806
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: and she looked at me. I went so she got that,

807
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: and then she and then she goes like I knew it,

808
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: and then she laughed and she I swear to God,

809
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: my daughter's really mature. How old is She's seven? But

810
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: thank you for being honest with me.

811
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: Oh, we love it.

812
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 2: But I was relieved because I thought, like, I fucking

813
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 2: hate those stupid stories and I hate and I think

814
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: it's this really fucked up thing that they have, these

815
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: these fairy tale fucking kid It's not even for them,

816
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: it's for adults to watch them get all excited. But

817
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: then it's like, I'm starting this relationship with this person

818
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 2: that like you like, you know, as a parent, you'd

819
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: like the love you have for your kids. It's like boundless,

820
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: and I'm starting this relationship with a fucking lie. Yeah

821
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: it's and it's just like as I'm telling the kid

822
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: not to lie and tell the truth and all of

823
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: that stuff, so I like, you know, my daughter talks

824
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: about Sanna, I like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I

825
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 2: don't go like, oh yeah, And then he's coming down

826
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: the chimney and he's fucking gonna do all of this shit.

827
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: Huh you think Santa will get me?

828
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: But blah blah blah blah. I'm like, you know, I

829
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know, like.

830
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: Who was responsible for telling her about Santa? Did she

831
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: learn about it from you? Your wife? Just zeit geist?

832
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: How did she learn about Sanna?

833
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: No? We we still did it, sure, but like, who,

834
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: so you did you didcause I've just seen people who

835
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: like from the jump say there is no Santa Claus.

836
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 2: It's all bullshit, and then people go, well that's cruel

837
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: because then they don't get them.

838
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: So you don't know how to handle that lie though

839
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: you're like the way you're you so you participated in,

840
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm not You're not. You're not in court here. I'm

841
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: just fascinated. I'm aware of that you're not in court.

842
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: You look tense. He got really tense.

843
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: He's a visioned I always look tense.

844
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: No, No, I saw you were. You looked relaxed, like

845
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: roughly I would say.

846
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: Just support your point.

847
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: No, you did, This is not confirmation. Bis you truly looked.

848
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: I thought, I don't even want to call it out.

849
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: You know when a kid's napping and you don't want to,

850
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: you just you kind of don't want them to be napping,

851
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: but you're like, ah, they're in a good place. I

852
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: don't want to actually.

853
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: Just what I'm tense about?

854
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: You no, tell me.

855
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: It's one of the things. I followed the herd on

856
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: and it was like, I remember the excitement of believing

857
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: in Santa Claus okay, but I also when I found

858
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: out there was no Santa Claus, I found it out

859
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: from an older sibling. My older sibling was upset, okay,

860
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: like how could they lie? I just felt like a

861
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: big kid because he knew when he told me and

862
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: told me not to tell my other siblings. So it

863
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: made me feel like, oh wow, I'm like I'm one

864
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: of the adults. Yeah, it felt like, yeah, you know,

865
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: sitting in the front seat the first time he did that,

866
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 2: driving down the street, you know, right in a car. However,

867
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: I will say if my daughter would be like, why

868
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: would you say that, I would just be like, you

869
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: know why, because it's this fucking stupid thing that they

870
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: came up with. I don't know why, and now somehow

871
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: capitalism is involved, and it just it just got out

872
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: of control. It's like, it's like I hated doing that

873
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: to you, but also didn't want you to miss out

874
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: on it.

875
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: Because you enjoy You enjoyed it as a kid believing

876
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: in Xanta for the beach joy and I like that

877
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: she gets.

878
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: Excited and all of that type of stuff. But it's

879
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: it's it's just one of those things like is this

880
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: really necessary?

881
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: It makes you uncomfortable. It clearly it's making you bill

882
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: visibly uncomfortable.

883
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 2: My kid makes me uncomfortable.

884
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah's just good. Listen. But then you did participate in it,

885
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: which I feel like that doesn't make you a bad

886
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: parent or a bad man because also, I mean, it's

887
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: hard to use this as a metric, but as a society,

888
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: as a whole ass participating in this lie. Frankly, but

889
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that makes it right wrong Santa claus One, Yeah,

890
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: I mean because you see you went.

891
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if you're a Christian, yeah you are. I

892
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: can't imagine what that must look like. But because I

893
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: got to ask one of my friends that Jewish, like,

894
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: what do you tell your kids? Do you sit there?

895
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 2: Go and listen? I don't know why, but this other

896
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: religion thinks this old man comes down to fucking chimney. Listen,

897
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: just don't say anything. Okay, we already get enough ship.

898
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: You just don't don't be going in there ruining Christian Christmas.

899
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: But Christmas isn't it.

900
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: Christmas isn't even Christian anymore. When you talk about capitalism,

901
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, Chris, Christmas is now just a commercialized holiday, Frankly,

902
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: Like at least in my opinion, I have Jewish friends

903
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: who do Christmas, you know, like I don't think I

904
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: have friends who are not Christian in any way, shape

905
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: or form.

906
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: We don't like Christmas. I like the tree, I like

907
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: doing all of that, the lights on the house, the

908
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: gifts and everything, and uh, and I don't even mind.

909
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. The kid's excitement about Santa

910
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 2: Claus is fun to see and they get all excited

911
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: and all of that, And maybe there's an argument to

912
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: be like, why can't they have this nice little fairy

913
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: tale before they go out into the cruel world. It's like,

914
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: maybe it's sad. I don't know. I don't know what.

915
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's probably my issue, to be honest,

916
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm probably making too big a deal out of it.

917
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: Probably honestly. Probably I feel like all the adults.

918
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: About you went with me, and now you're like, all right, yeah,

919
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: you probably are, no.

920
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: Because I don't want you to be stressed. I think

921
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: like it sounds like you you don't have to worry

922
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: about me. Well, this is my nature. I can't help myself.

923
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: You could be any person sitting here on this couch

924
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: who has talked to me. For now, I'm going to

925
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: be a little concerned about you, not in a like

926
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: your troubled way, just to like human to human way.

927
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: But I do want to know how old your son is?

928
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: Four?

929
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: Four? Okay, so the daughter is older. He's got a

930
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: big sister. Do you want your kids to be able

931
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: to talk to you about anything?

932
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: Uh? Within reason. I didn't like how you asked that.

933
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: No, I did it on purpose. I asked it like

934
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: that on purpose because anything.

935
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: You're in control here, Bill, I don't.

936
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: I just simply need to host my podcast.

937
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 2: I did that. I did that. I deliberately did it

938
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: that way.

939
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: I good.

940
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: Bill just got me on a string over here, don't

941
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: you I do and you just do what?

942
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: You're just doing whatever I want as planned? No, you're not.

943
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: Actually you're being your own person. I'm proud of you,

944
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: and I love that for you, King for real, it

945
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: is funny. What silence.

946
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: I don't like that for you. I love that for you.

947
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: You don't like when people say that.

948
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: In general, it's microaggressive. They have a book, a gig

949
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: and all that.

950
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm black. I can't micro aggress. Oh I'm black. I can't.

951
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: I can't microaggress.

952
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, and I don't want

953
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 2: to know what that means.

954
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: I don't mean anything, but I just want to.

955
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: See somebody goes with somebody you get, oh, yeah, that's

956
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 2: good for you.

957
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: Can I like, what?

958
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: Would it be fucking mediocre for you? Am I like

959
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: happier with less than? Like? What the fuck does that mean?

960
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: That's good?

961
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: Yes?

962
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: Can?

963
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: I say? Bill? Hold on, you and I are going

964
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: to see id to eye on something here, Bill, I

965
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: do agree with you about the good for you. When

966
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: I was growing up and people said good for you,

967
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was so insulting, Like I'm talking like

968
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: seven years old. I'm like, that's so like rude. And

969
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: adults would say, oh, you're doing a valet re settle,

970
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: good for you, and I'd go something about that always

971
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: like made me bristle.

972
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: I didn't mind good for you. I don't like that's good,

973
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 2: that's good, that's good.

974
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: So you're saying that as oposed you to say.

975
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: Oh that that's good for you. It's the that's good,

976
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: but for you? Would it not be good for you?

977
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: Are you existing on some higher fucking thing? This is

978
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: probab of me being defensive, But like I I remember

979
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: this fucking asshole said that to me. Mm hmmm, Oh,

980
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: that's good for you. I remember thinking like it'd be

981
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: fucking good for you and your bullshit.

982
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: Charith, that's that's good for you. So if someone said

983
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: to you this is good.

984
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: For you, it's good for you, feel different.

985
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: Bill, You're bullshitting. I'm not You're bulls I don't believe you.

986
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. I don't believe you. All right, Okay,

987
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: all right, well I have I don't already have established it.

988
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: I don't trust my dad for the day he's lying

989
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: about Santa Claus. I don't believe.

990
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: Him, esus and would be the classic dad. I never said.

991
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: That you have felt like a dad today, which is

992
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: good for you. That you that is good for you.

993
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: Did I make you mad?

994
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: No, because I know you were doing that to do that.

995
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, you can see through, right Bill? Fuck okay,

996
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: I know my episodes do.

997
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: All your sort of apologies and with you.

998
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: I didn't say sorry, it was an apology.

999
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: It was a little.

1000
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: But you've put that. You've put that on me. I

1001
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: haven't you've put that on me. You've interpreted my tone,

1002
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: and that could lead that could lead to some problems

1003
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: in life.

1004
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: You are fucking walled the fuck off you are fucking wait.

1005
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: I do have one more question for you about your

1006
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: kids and you as a parent. Do you cuss in

1007
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: front of your kids?

1008
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: I try not to, but I do at.

1009
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: Least when you do. Do you feel like you shut

1010
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: up at.

1011
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: Least five times? Is costing me a fortune?

1012
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: What do you have a jar? A jar for when

1013
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: you cuss?

1014
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: How much is that making good money? So it doesn't.

1015
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: Exactly, it's not punitive enough.

1016
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: It's not I just stop on the wrist. Five bucks here,

1017
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: five bucks there. It's sort of like the cursing jar

1018
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: is the Christian Barmitz.

1019
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: The cursing he's just making stuff up.

1020
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: They get, they get, they get money that day when

1021
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: you turn dirt, you become a man or a woman whatever,

1022
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: you know. With Christians, it's the cursed. Listen as your

1023
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: kid gets to keep it.

1024
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: Listen.

1025
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: It's over the years.

1026
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: But you don't even feel yeah, because you're not feeling it.

1027
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: You're not feeling the little five bucks you have to

1028
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: put in there. You're doing well, you're doing well right now.

1029
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: But I do understand, like, uh, like I shouldn't be

1030
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: doing it, But like I just I grew up that way.

1031
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: Do you want them to be exposed? Like, obviously you

1032
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: don't want to lie to your kids, You're and so,

1033
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: which is that's important you to not lie to them,

1034
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: to tell them the truth? Do you feel like part

1035
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: of it though, too, is like, hey, this is what

1036
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: the real world. If I don't cuss in this house

1037
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: and and I keep them from curse words in the house,

1038
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: They're going to go out in the world and hear it.

1039
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: So what's the big idea to do?

1040
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Is Okay, Yeah, that's the excuse for doing it now.

1041
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: I'm doing it because I have an inability to express

1042
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: myself without using those words, because I've been doing it

1043
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 2: my entire life.

1044
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: Do they go when you do that? Do your kids go, Daddy,

1045
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to say that.

1046
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: My son repeats it. My daughter says, you shouldn't do it.

1047
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, The younger one repeats, yeah.

1048
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: He uh. You know, he's a boy. He knows being

1049
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 2: bad as funny, and like, you know.

1050
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: He's just he's being bad. He's a boy who knows

1051
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: being bad is funny. You can get yourself in trouble.

1052
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: People are gonna be upset because you said he's a boy.

1053
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: You kind of said boys will be boys.

1054
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: Boys will be boys, and girls will be girls, and

1055
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 2: girls will be girls.

1056
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: Yes, binary people will be non binary people, and an

1057
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: orange will be an orange. And Bill Burr has been

1058
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: my dad for the day, but I do need to

1059
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: ask him advice. Bill in every episode asking my guests

1060
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: my dad for the day for a piece of advice.

1061
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: I have advice I need from you. People are trying

1062
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: to set me up on blind dates. How do you

1063
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: feel I should approach blind dates? What is your advice

1064
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: for me on that front?

1065
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: Meeting a public place?

1066
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: Okay, well sure, I was always going to do that.

1067
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: Just meet them there.

1068
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's it man. A few words.

1069
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well i'd have to I don't know anything

1070
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: about this person. I would just say, you don't know

1071
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: this person from Adam, I would say, meet them in

1072
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: a public place. They don't know where they don't need

1073
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: to know where you live, they don't need to have

1074
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: your phone number.

1075
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: But then how do we would email it better? Or

1076
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: like you want the person who's setting me up with

1077
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: them to just like give them an address? And then

1078
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

1079
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: Fucking know how that shit works. I just know that, like,

1080
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: I don't understand why someone of why you would have

1081
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: to have a blind date.

1082
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: What's wrong with because dating is hard because I don't

1083
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: have a dad? Is what's wrong with me?

1084
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's probably why relationships don't work out. It's not

1085
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Speaker 2: why you can't like see a person and actually see

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Speaker 2: if you vibe with them, rather.

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Speaker 1: Than do you think I should be asking guys out? Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking. I don't have a take. I just want

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Speaker 1: your take.

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Speaker 2: I am so fucking old. I don't know how it

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Speaker 2: works with you younger people, Like is that acceptable?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea people do? People do? I just

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Speaker 1: whatever your take is, but that is that is a

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Speaker 1: take being like, I'm so fucking old. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Like when when I was growing up, the guy asked

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Speaker 2: the woman up. So I don't know what happens now, okay,

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how you was a woman. If

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Speaker 2: you want to go out with a guy, you guys

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Speaker 2: always had to do like like playing like flirty games

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Speaker 2: or something and hoping this guy would understand that you

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Speaker 2: were giving him signals that you liked him. M hm.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I need to should I should do

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Speaker 1: more of that. I'm not the biggest flirt, so I

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Speaker 1: should flirt more. Is that what you're saying. I'm asking

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Speaker 1: you could say, no, eggo, you gotta be all wrong.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know what you need to do to

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Speaker 2: be honest with I don't know. I mean, maybe take

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Speaker 2: up an activity hobby, take up a volleyball where you

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Speaker 2: can like meet.

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Speaker 1: People, okay, volleyball.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's all changed, like now people just go

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Speaker 2: on like dating app.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to go into your hard no

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Speaker 1: to dating app exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's a meat market.

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Speaker 1: But it feels like back in the day, people were

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Speaker 1: setting people up with each other. Like it feels like

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Speaker 1: back in the I have I've romanticized back in the

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Speaker 1: day myself, but I feel like people when I talked

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Speaker 1: to people who are older than me, they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: my friend, were people.

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Speaker 2: Set up people if it was getting late in the

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Speaker 2: draft and they didn't get signed by.

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Speaker 1: That was the only How did you meet your wife?

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Speaker 2: That's how they did it.

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Speaker 1: If you have you told this story publicly already, because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make you okay, okay, how did

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Speaker 1: you meet your wife? Just the the the log line

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Speaker 1: version of how you met your wife?

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Speaker 2: My wife was working on a show called Tough Crowd

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00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: and she was the talent coordinator. Okay, and I was

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Speaker 2: the talent one day.

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Speaker 1: Great okay, and how old were you? Just if you

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Speaker 1: gave me contexts here late in the game or no,

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Speaker 1: in your opinion, oh yeah, late in the game. So

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Speaker 1: you didn't even have to get set up. No, God

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Speaker 1: just had your back. That's pretty dope.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. No. I had to ask her out

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Speaker 2: numerous times. She was not having it at all, and

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Speaker 2: then uh, then she was and here we are and yeah,

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Speaker 2: so that's that's how it was. It wasn't God, it

1142
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Speaker 2: wasn't Santa Claus. I think if you want something in life,

1143
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: you got to go after it, okay, okay, and if

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Speaker 2: it's if you know, for a long time, my relationships

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00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: with women were not working out. And it wasn't until

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Speaker 2: I looked at myself like what I'm my brother and

1147
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: be oh chicks to psychos, Like if I had to

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Speaker 2: see what I was doing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that feels like good dad advice, Thank you. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that. We take that time.

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Speaker 2: Dad had a long day.

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Speaker 1: Dad, it's fucking eleven, it's twelve thirty. It's twelve thirty,

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Speaker 1: what time do you wake up today?

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Speaker 2: Sick something? My kid came in?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's sweet, all right, dang thinks that's so amazing.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I thought you were going to ask

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Speaker 2: me all of this advice. It was one fucking question

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00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 2: and it was basically you didn't. You didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would have said.

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Speaker 2: They were going to ask you about your life and

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00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: then she was going to ask you about.

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Speaker 1: How each one piece of question piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: That sucks because I was really bad at.

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00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: That one about the advice. But that's okay. The whole

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Speaker 1: thing is like, dads are imperfect, just like everyone's imperfect.

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Speaker 1: Moms are imperfect, like you're not. I'll ask people a piece.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask people advice about stuff that I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: think I could ask a dad this, like how do

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00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: I change my oil? And they'll be like, I don't know.

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00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: Because I change you what oil? That's for the Baltimore.

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00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: Can't because the way I said, oh change my oil,

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Speaker 1: change my yeah oil, Look how do I change my oil?

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Speaker 1: And they go, I don't know, So you don't have

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Speaker 1: to be it's the it's the it's the exchange.

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Speaker 2: I answer that one.

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Speaker 1: You know how to change oil. See how, and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Being yes, you do. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: No Bill, do you have anything you want to plug

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Speaker 1: before you go?

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Speaker 2: I think you just plugged that. I'm doing that, Glen Garry,

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Speaker 2: Glenn Ross on Broadway. I think it's going to start

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Speaker 2: in March.

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Speaker 1: Okay, March twenty twenty five. Okay, check out Bilberg here.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you. All right, all right? Thanks. Dat

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Speaker 1: is a headgum podcast created and hosted by me Ago Wilhem.

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Speaker 1: The show is produced and edited by Amita Flores and

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Speaker 1: engineered by Anita Flores and Anya Kanamskaya, with executive producer

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Speaker 1: Emma Foley. Katie Moose is our VP of Content at Headgum.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks to Jason Athini for our show art and

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Speaker 1: Feris Manshi for our THEU song. For more podcasts by Headgum,

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Speaker 1: visit headgum dot com or wherever you listen to your

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