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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sam. This is a John your og

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Speaker 1: Okay storytime podcast host, and we got some great stories

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Speaker 1: coming up. Before that, we have a quick two minute

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Speaker 1: break from the sponsors that keep the show a lot.

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Speaker 2: I encourage my wife to explore non monogamy and it

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Speaker 2: ruined my marriage.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, she explored it too much.

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Speaker 4: Who a funk?

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Speaker 2: So I thirty mail and in an eight year long

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Speaker 2: happy marriage with my thirty female, beautiful wife.

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Speaker 4: Nothing to complain about during all of those years.

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Speaker 2: Really, neither of us wanted kids, both of us wanted cats,

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Speaker 2: and we are passionate about traveling.

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Speaker 4: We've spent two years living in a motor home.

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Speaker 2: Through South America, plus backpacking every vacation to different countries

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Speaker 2: thirty three so far.

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Speaker 3: That is sick.

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Speaker 1: This sounds like your dream, yeah, dude, except maybe not

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Speaker 1: the failed but non monogamy everything else.

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Speaker 3: So that's great, little piece, oh man.

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Speaker 2: All things considered, we have a nearly perfect life. By

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Speaker 2: the way, this comes from Remarkable Net forty six fifty eight,

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Speaker 2: to the r slash to okay start time. Summer sent

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Speaker 2: them in. But I have to say I never believed

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Speaker 2: in monogamy. It was always clear to her, but as

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Speaker 2: this has never been her belief, I've always been okay

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Speaker 2: with it and never cheated nor asked her permission to

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Speaker 2: get involved with anybody because I've always felt completely fulfilled

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Speaker 2: in our relationship.

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Speaker 4: So not a believer in non monogamy.

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Speaker 2: But is doing it for his part, which I think

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Speaker 2: is like fine, that's hey, Like that's fine if you

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Speaker 2: actually don't.

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Speaker 4: You know, run around perfect. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Remember, Nevertheless, I always told her if she were willing

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Speaker 2: to have something with any other person, it would be

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Speaker 2: completely okay for me, even though I don't have that

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Speaker 2: permission myself. So he's saying, like, yo, you can go

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Speaker 2: see other guys. I'm coold that I don't even need

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Speaker 2: to see other woman.

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Speaker 4: He's cool with it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna backfire. Bro, this has

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Speaker 1: gone a backfire. Non monogamy is I mean, any kind

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Speaker 1: of relationship is tricky, but when you just have like

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Speaker 1: so many relationship dynamics gets complicated. People can do it

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Speaker 1: for sure, but it's just difficult.

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Speaker 2: You need to spread your like my the butterfly on

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Speaker 2: my shirt. She needs to spread her wings and fly.

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Speaker 2: Why are you trying to cocoon herself.

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Speaker 3: She's gonna fly away.

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Speaker 4: Let her.

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Speaker 3: She is gonna fly away.

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Speaker 4: In any direction, including away.

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Speaker 2: So the only thing I asked her would be to

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Speaker 2: tell me that first. So in the last couple of months,

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Speaker 2: she told me that she would also give me the

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Speaker 2: permission to be with other people if I wanted to.

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Speaker 2: So now dual permission, dual permission. As I said, I'm

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Speaker 2: fulfilled by her. I am actually completely devoted to her.

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Speaker 2: She is my muse.

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Speaker 4: Every day I wake up grateful for having her in

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Speaker 3: Why are you trying to change you?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 3: Have it perfect? What do you tr Why are you

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Speaker 3: trying to change it?

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Speaker 2: No, no, it's not broken, but we have to fix it. Man,

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Speaker 2: we met in college and I had never been in

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Speaker 2: love before her, And during all the twelve years since

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Speaker 2: So I didn't look for anyone to hook up with.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if he believes in non monogamy.

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Speaker 1: He sounds so you sound very monogamous. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: you can, like believe that monogamy is not the best

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Speaker 1: relationship structure, but find yourself in a relationship that gives

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Speaker 4: Or like, maybe it's a conceptual Conceptually, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like for me, conceptually, I think non monogamy makes more

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Speaker 4: Right, that's what he's thinking.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what I think.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's what you think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Conceptually, I think non monogamy makes more sense in monogamy,

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Speaker 1: but I feeling space.

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Speaker 3: I thought it doesn't feel good for me.

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Speaker 4: Right, dude, you and OP need to link up. I

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Speaker 4: feel like you would be the best buds.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm looking into my future.

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Speaker 4: Definitely everything I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: But one night a month ago, she didn't come home

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Speaker 2: from work and didn't tell me anything. Of Course, I

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Speaker 2: drinking with her colleagues, which is pretty regular, but she

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Speaker 2: always tells me in advance, not this time. So in

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Speaker 2: the morning, I go to work and she still hasn't

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Speaker 2: come home yet, and we only met after I returned home.

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Speaker 2: Of course, I'm mad, thank god, for the first time,

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Speaker 2: but I patiently wait for her to tell me how

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Speaker 2: her night bar hopping was and how fun it was.

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Speaker 4: She then proceeds to tell me she hooked up with.

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Speaker 3: One of her male coworkers and she didn't say anything

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Speaker 3: about it beforehand. What was the one rule? See, this

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Speaker 3: is what I'm saying, dude.

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Speaker 1: It's like, once you open up the lid of the

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Speaker 1: can a little bit, just just people with no scruples

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Speaker 1: are going bust and open that can and peeing inside

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 4: Gotta fly away, fly away. And they slept in the

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Speaker 4: same bed, no spicy sleeping.

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Speaker 1: Wait, oh okay, so they didn't like fully hook up,

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Speaker 1: so they slept in the same bab maybe yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah. They smooched. They a little smooch, little snogging.

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Speaker 2: And Opie says, I'm happy for her, she's finally free. Really,

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Speaker 2: there you go, he's happy for her. Really, Okay, let

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Speaker 2: him be thrilled, let him be over joined.

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Speaker 1: I would be a little annoyed if I said, hey,

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Speaker 2: Do you not appreciate transformation? That's true, that's true that

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Speaker 2: she is tune, and you're just like, yeah, yeah, I'm right, you're.

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Speaker 4: Right, you're right.

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Speaker 3: I'm really not being a feminist.

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Speaker 1: There we go, pick up that book from Margaret Atwater. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would that would Yeah, pick up my book of

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Speaker 1: feminist pode treated. Obviously, I need to remind myself now.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, I'm still pretty mad because I

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Speaker 3: As you should be. Oh, Bi, do not walk that back.

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Speaker 3: That is that is not chill. Chill.

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Speaker 2: She then explains nobody intended it to happen. This was

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Speaker 2: simply just a wasted decision. I understand that's plausible, but

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Speaker 2: I'm still uncomfortable. I tried to kiss her, and she

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Speaker 2: asked me not to because she needs to sleep for

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Speaker 4: I'm not liking it.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm thinking, Johnny boy, I'm thinking we're trickling.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking we're trickling. I think we have a little

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Speaker 1: case of the trickle truth.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm. She's got the full the full thing.

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Speaker 1: But let me just yeah, yeah, we kissed, but we

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Speaker 1: and we stayed in the same bed, but we definitely

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Speaker 1: didn't hook up. And then like the next day it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: we hooked up, but it was definitely only him. The

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Speaker 1: next day is like, well, the whole friend grew hooked

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Speaker 1: up and it was a massive class action or next day,

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Speaker 1: the next day, you know, it just it just get

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Speaker 4: I think that's all.

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Speaker 2: We're trickle truth, and it's about to We're gonna from

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Speaker 2: snowball to avalanche.

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Speaker 4: That's where we're headed. My ealth is definitely dirty. Oh god, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's why she just wanted to kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm surprised he's so willing and ready to smooch.

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Speaker 2: Rose, the most understanding human on the planet. To understand,

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Speaker 2: working in a couple of hours.

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Speaker 4: That's fair.

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Speaker 2: I have to shower and go to work too well.

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Speaker 2: A few days past and a friend of hers text me.

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Speaker 2: It was nothing spicy, but she comments on one of

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Speaker 2: my Instagram posts complimenting my body. We've been in the

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Speaker 2: same group of friends for over a decade and complimenting

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Speaker 2: we met, I felt a different look and it was

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Speaker 2: my wife and we laughed about it. I guess I

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Speaker 1: I think, bro, everyone's mess Like, you had a perfect

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Speaker 1: relationship and you're messing it up. Dude, you're messing it up.

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Speaker 1: Is there a game that we like you don't have

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Speaker 1: the wrong decisions?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Dude, Like, is there a game where it's like we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they just everye decision?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I like that. Actually, yah, that's great.

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Speaker 1: We read Reddit stories until someone actually does something good.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, someone stops being in it. Yeah, there's there's

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Speaker 2: someone the a hole, there's something that so far complete

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Speaker 2: failure across the board. We are good to keep going.

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Speaker 2: So my suspicions were not wrong. She wanted to have

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Speaker 3: Why not? I think she wanted to have an affair.

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Speaker 3: Is she in a relationship?

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Speaker 4: So this is the Instagram girl.

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Speaker 1: She wants to have an affair, but it's not an

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Speaker 1: affair if they're in an open marriage, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I guess that. Yeah, they need to like get

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Speaker 4: better at their like hook up. Look up dictionary.

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Speaker 1: Definition, dude, I think nothing in this relationship has been defined.

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Speaker 1: They're they're like, all right, if you're gonna have an

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Speaker 1: open relationship. If you're gonna do nonminogamy, the rules have

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Speaker 1: to be defined. E mean, even if you're a regular relationship,

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Speaker 1: you have to define like what is flirting, what's not flirting,

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Speaker 1: what's okay in a relationship? You know, like all these

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Speaker 1: things have to be defined because people have very different

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Speaker 1: conceptualizations of what a relationship is. And you haven't talked

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Speaker 1: about it, then you don't know what each other think. Right,

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Speaker 1: So with this, they haven't talked about crap. They're just

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Speaker 1: wheeling and dealing. They're like the gun slingers in the

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Speaker 1: wild West. There are no rules. There's people being alived

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Speaker 1: in the streets every day because they're they're you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a sheriff in town and he's not looking, he's

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Speaker 1: not making any rules. He's in his little share of corner.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, drinking whisky alone.

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Speaker 2: You've seen those those like air force shows, right, Opie

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Speaker 2: and his partner, they're.

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Speaker 4: Not trained shows.

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Speaker 3: What air force show?

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Speaker 4: You know where they take the planes and they do

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Speaker 4: like backflips.

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Speaker 3: And oh yeah, like the Blue Angels.

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Speaker 2: The Blue Angels. Opi and his partner are getting into

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Speaker 2: these planes. They're flying to loopy loops zero training and

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Speaker 2: they're going to land. That's what they Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: they're doing. That's what they're doing, and that's what they're expecting. Yes,

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Speaker 4: So I told my wife about it. She surprisingly got mad.

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Speaker 2: Also, the male coworker was acting really strange towards me

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Speaker 3: I was crashing out so hard, loved her, and I

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Speaker 1: I know he's just watching it. It's just so sad

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Speaker 2: So I was the one who talked them into employing her.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and they're bone in your.

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Speaker 3: Just yeah, I know, you ruined it. You ruined it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he went from like, oh, she's finally for like,

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Speaker 1: I'm too entrenched in right now. Right or at least

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Speaker 2: Ladies, mark your calendars ten years from this day forward,

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Speaker 2: and DM Samuel Donner ten years from now it will begin.

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Speaker 2: Please someone, please, someone take this clip and send it

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Speaker 2: to him ten years later.

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Speaker 3: Please as.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're definitely gonna be not definitely, but you know, oh.

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Speaker 2: Wait, well, enough, same torture, let's get back to it.

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Speaker 2: So she cries a lot and asks me to forgive her.

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Speaker 4: I don't care, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe you.

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Speaker 3: Things were not talked about enough.

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Speaker 4: Nope, no it's not it's not over. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Except for now. I didn't want to spend all of

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Speaker 1: Oh, I wonder why she wants you to go on

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Speaker 4: So you know he can explore.

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Speaker 1: They I think you want to explore. You're gonna be butterflying.

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Speaker 4: Dang a butterfly became bad in the store. Now I'm sad.

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Speaker 4: So now we've been living separately for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: And tonight she had spicy sleep with a male colleague

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Speaker 1: She couldn't even wait two weeks. Two weeks, man, two weeks,

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Speaker 2: We're on a paycheck cycle. Okay, two weeks? Come on, baby,

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Speaker 4: But she just told me that they went to a

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Speaker 4: No spice.

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Speaker 2: She only confirmed that they had spicy sleep because I

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Speaker 2: know what? Her lover just showed up after she asked

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Speaker 2: for some bar address.

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Speaker 1: Who would have b Yeah, yeah, I mean I would

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Speaker 1: have not slept with him, but then he texted me

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Speaker 1: and called me.

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Speaker 4: But then okay, she told me again the spicy sleep.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't playing and that's why she didn't let me know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 4: You know, hey, this was unplayed. And even if it's

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Speaker 4: not planned, is it really is really cheating?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's barely it's barely cheating. It's not pretmeditated. It's

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Speaker 1: like cheating and like the you know, second degree. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely not first degree cheating. Not meditate on it

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Speaker 1: and that and cheat. It's just like, oh oopsoop, a

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Speaker 1: little stabby stabby here, perfect little stabby stabby.

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Speaker 4: How are you? How are you making love these days?

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Speaker 3: God?

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Speaker 4: By the way, you.

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Speaker 2: Can listen a full episode if you want more of that,

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Speaker 2: in search. Okay, story time, but ladies and gentlemen. We're

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Speaker 2: almost at the end of the saga. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna dive in to the phase.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 3: I just I feel so bad and not bad at

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Speaker 3: all for this guy.

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Speaker 2: So the problem is that she's seen my text at

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Speaker 2: some point during the night and chose not to say anything.

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Speaker 2: I feel like she's feeling guilty about having a lover,

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Speaker 2: even though I stated many times that I find that normal.

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Speaker 2: We only owe each other the truth and full trust.

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Speaker 2: She broke my trust from the beginning. Is that why

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Speaker 2: I feel so bad about this whole situation?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Is that why?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Dude, she she broke your trust.

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Speaker 4: Stand up. I don't stand up.

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Speaker 3: Man's sitting down on his laurels. What's happening? It's just

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Speaker 3: stand up for his morals.

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Speaker 2: Could it be that I'm just jealous and witching about

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Speaker 2: this whole situation?

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Speaker 4: Am I envious?

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Speaker 2: Because she's having a really good time and I'm in

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Speaker 2: a whole different country alone and miserable, not meeting people,

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Speaker 2: and I still haven't gotten.

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Speaker 4: Any payments from her.

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Speaker 3: Man is down bad.

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Speaker 4: Everyone talks her. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: You must stand up for yourself. This is not like again,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the intellectual exploration of non monogamy, but you didn't

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Speaker 1: talk about it enough. And also she's not sticking to

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Speaker 1: the one thing that you did talk about is just

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Speaker 1: like being clear about what's going to happen and not

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Speaker 1: breaking your trust.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and she's doing that. She's doing that. So I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: op Like, but I think you've handled a lot wrong here.

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Speaker 3: You need to stand up for yourself.

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Speaker 1: You need to create clear boundaries and expectations of what

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Speaker 1: you want a relationship, and that was not done. You're

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Speaker 1: kind of doomed to fail. And I think it is

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Speaker 1: definitely more on her part because she is lying to

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Speaker 1: you and not being like forthreat. But you also aren't

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Speaker 1: establishing enough boundaries and you're not sticking true to them

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Speaker 1: when she crosses them. And I think because of those

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Speaker 1: of both those reasons, you're kind of being an a

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Speaker 1: hole to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Being an a hole to yourself, be kinder to yourself.

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Speaker 2: You can have just a relationship with one person and

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Speaker 2: then'd be good. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay.

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Speaker 1: But let us know if you think it's okay. Put

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