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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call him, yes, sir, at least one of them,

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Speaker 1: Brother.

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Speaker 4: Joining us is the president of mc Neutraceuticals.

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Speaker 3: For those who haven't caught up on the recent episodes.

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Speaker 3: It's a subsidiary of MC Global Holdings that is focused

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Speaker 4: Do you hear me same day shipments? Let's go. This

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Speaker 4: MC Nutraceuticals dot com.

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Speaker 3: Are hitting the team up directly one eight hundred six

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Speaker 3: eight five eight zero eight four without further ado. Please

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Speaker 3: You guys, let's go last time, and now you brought

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Speaker 7: Here, Yes, big names, and these are the guys that

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Speaker 8: Testing in this industry is a passion of what I've

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Speaker 3: So like your lab is like, there's no we get

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Speaker 4: At its biggest. I just don't know that answer.

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Speaker 3: Because as you own this Chris ware, and you bring

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Speaker 3: If you're in the cannabis space, you guys are just

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Speaker 4: He's not suited in booty today.

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Speaker 3: He looks more like a pedestrian, which is awesome as

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Speaker 3: Brother wanted to give you that shout out while you're

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Speaker 3: We're talking about so many things that Chris Ware was

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Speaker 4: But we really like just seem so fascinated by that.

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Speaker 3: So and why the name of three chi, I'm so

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Speaker 9: And you said that those were the three parts of chi,

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Speaker 5: That make a human a human.

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Speaker 4: And I love, I swear to God. I was thinking

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Speaker 3: But I didn't want to say it because in case

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Speaker 4: So, but I and speaking of which, what is KCA labs?

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Speaker 4: Joe's got all the answers today. Myself, I say I

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 4: I took on that one. Take a guess, Joe, what

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Speaker 4: do you what do you call a gay horse? Hey,

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Speaker 4: you don't call a gay horse anything, It's what a

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Speaker 3: We're gonna come back and we're gonna head over to

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Speaker 4: Where is that little leper knats? I don't know? Oh well,

448
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,239
Speaker 4: well can you can't even hear me? Make fun of them?

449
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,400
Speaker 3: For God's sakes, get over here, get his check out

450
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,640
Speaker 3: the website califx dot com. We want to thank damn

451
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 3: and I could use one of those cbddreaks right now.

452
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 3: Ratt worthy, I don't care what they say about you.

453
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 3: You got some good people around you, brother, Yeah, are

454
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 3: so good. I want to hear from Bob Hoban, the

455
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 3: partner of Clark Hill Law Firm in Denver, Colorado.

456
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Speaker 4: Bob, what gets you into cannabis and where'd you start?

457
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,400
Speaker 6: That's a great question, man. It's good to be here

458
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,439
Speaker 6: with you, guys. Thank you for that. Look, man, my

459
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 6: mom had pancratic cancer. That's how I got into the

460
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 6: cannabis industry.

461
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,479
Speaker 5: She passed years ago. She passed.

462
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 6: We got six months to live, but she lived for

463
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 6: about three and a half years. God bless that's moet

464
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 6: of that time with no opiates, which was pretty good.

465
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 6: So I really I started working in the cannabis industry

466
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 6: a lawyer. As a lawyer, open up the first dispensaries

467
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Speaker 6: in Colorado, opened up many of the first dispensaries on

468
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 6: the West coast, opened up the CBD industry. In twenty ten,

469
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 6: cracked out Open sued the DEA, got a favorable ruling

470
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 6: in that worked on the farmville in twenty fourteen, twenty eighteen.

471
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Speaker 6: And that's a lot of things that people don't know.

472
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 6: Oh guys, is that the most significant cannabis reformer already

473
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,400
Speaker 6: happened at the federal level ten years ago. That's why

474
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 6: these guys are doing what they're doing. Right, These derivatives

475
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 6: from him, the same plant as marijuana, all cannabis, those

476
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 6: compounds are all federally legal.

477
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 5: They're legal already.

478
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 6: So when we talk about marijuana legalization, we got to

479
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 6: understand that what already happened happened, and it provides cover

480
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 6: for guys like this that go out and do legal

481
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 6: things in a market, but not just do it to

482
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 6: make a buck. Do it the right way with testing

483
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 6: and technology, do it the right way with regulations, do

484
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 6: it the right way with consumer protection in place. So

485
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 6: all those things are happening, but I'm just proud to

486
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 6: be alongside of them. Pioneering lawyer needs pioneering clients, and

487
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 6: these guys make it all happen.

488
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Speaker 5: The last thing I'll say is, you.

489
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 6: Know, when you look at the cannabis plant, it takes

490
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 6: a lot of people get angry when they think about

491
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 6: the hemp side.

492
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's easier than.

493
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 6: The marijuana side, and the marijuana side's overregulated. But at

494
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 6: the end of the day, they're all cannabinoids. And what

495
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 6: are cannabinoids, guys, They're ingredients. Cannabinoids are ingredients, ingredients for

496
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 6: pharmaceutical formulations, ingredients for over the counter goods, over the

497
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 6: ingredients for beverages. That's what cannabinoids are. And if you

498
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 6: look at it holistically and you look at how these

499
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 6: things come together, that's what these guys are doing. But

500
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 6: you got to do it at a high level, and

501
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 6: you got to do it right. You got to do

502
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 6: it with testing and in consumer safety in mind.

503
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Speaker 2: Bob, let me ask you, I mean, do you feel

504
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: like they're going to regulate Delta eight?

505
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Speaker 4: Are they going to?

506
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they've started to, right obviously, you know,

507
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: Nevada has got their their sword at it, But I mean,

508
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: how do you feel about these other cannabinoids CBN things

509
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: like that, because I can see, you know, the potency

510
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: of that being turned up and people actually using that

511
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 2: for not only sleep aid, but maybe some kind of weird,

512
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 2: you know, substance that they might start to enjoy or

513
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: abusively using it.

514
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 4: Right, So, is there going to be more regulations on

515
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Speaker 4: all these.

516
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Speaker 2: Different cannabinoids or do you feel that they're they can't

517
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 2: wrap their hand around it?

518
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 4: Why haven't they? Because you're in a jorney, you know,

519
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 4: so in terms.

520
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 6: Of legality, right, farm bill was passed. Farm Bill's pretty

521
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 6: darned straightforward. Congress chose its words very carefully. There's no

522
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 6: loophole here, guys. Congress said, all derivatives, all salts, all acids,

523
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 6: all isomers, all of them from.

524
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 5: The hemp plant are no longer controlled substances, all of them.

525
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 7: Guys.

526
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 6: It's not about, oh, hemp is legal, and then maybe

527
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 6: these things are legal too.

528
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 5: They use those words.

529
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 6: So that that's why you need a guy like Chris

530
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 6: to sort of tell you what those things are. But

531
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, those things are legal.

532
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 6: So to your point, that's what federal law says.

533
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 5: It's legal. The courts have upheld it.

534
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 6: The states are getting around the regulating it. The other

535
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 6: part of that is what's gonna happen in the future.

536
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 6: The farm Bill's an ag policy bill. I don't think

537
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 6: that Congress is gonna cut back the attention to farmers.

538
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 5: They're gonna encourage farmers to plan hemp.

539
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 6: Sure, they're not gonna limit the downstream use and the

540
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 6: legislation that's gonna be for something else. And remember, the

541
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 6: FDA hasn't wayed on any of this stuff yet.

542
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 5: Wow, and yet.

543
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 6: Since twenty fourteen, especially in twenty eighteen, they've had the

544
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 6: ability to do so. So we're kind of sitting back

545
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 6: and the companies need to take it on their own

546
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 6: to produce safe products and put regulations in place at

547
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 6: the state level because the FDA has not done it.

548
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 6: But I don't see this rolling back. To be honest

549
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 6: with you, not in the farm bill.

550
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Speaker 3: Let me ask you, Bob, take me back and give

551
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 3: me a good story about you're a pioneer in this

552
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 3: industry as the law firm lawyer that went up there

553
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: talking about this legalization this and that you started the

554
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: first ones in Colorado dispensaries? Did people look at you

555
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 3: like you're a kook lawyer for taking these type of things?

556
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: And give me some of the stories of like, oh

557
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 3: my god, my parent or your parents still alive, your

558
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: dad maybe, I know you said your mom passed this

559
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: and that, but like, give me some of the crazy

560
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 3: shit that happened to you, because let's just face it, dude,

561
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: you're a pioneer lawyer. That is they're doing things that

562
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: they're going Dude, are you losing your hair?

563
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 4: You were?

564
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 5: What I mean I was, I still lives.

565
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: But what did you get? Dude?

566
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: Because I could only imagine the stuff that you heard

567
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: being such an attorney like that.

568
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 6: Early on, it was it wasn't approved by the fic

569
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 6: sports the state bars to represent cannabis companies because it's

570
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 6: federally illegal, right, So you had to do it. And

571
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 6: my position was, these clients need help, I'm willing to

572
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 6: do the help. It's a complex area. I'm going to

573
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 6: help them do it. And then the state bars ultimately

574
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 6: came around. Early on, you're a pot lawyer, You're a

575
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 6: weed lawyer. I'm not a criminal defense attorney. I've never

576
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 6: done that. I'm a business lawyer. I'm a corporate lawyer.

577
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 6: I brought skills to the table that that needed to

578
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 6: be applied in a business.

579
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Speaker 5: Right.

580
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Speaker 6: So the lawyers in that field they kind of at

581
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 6: the beginning they'd laugh at you.

582
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 5: Or you're the weed lawyer.

583
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: Man.

584
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: You go from business to weed. That's like criminals exactly

585
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 3: what I mean. You get a stigmama.

586
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 6: Exactly, you got that stigma. And what happened ultimately was

587
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 6: I sold my firm. I built a firm for fourteen years.

588
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 6: I sold it two and a half years ago to

589
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 6: a large international law firm, Clark Hill. So the Hope

590
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 6: and Law Group was the first cannabis law firm in

591
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 6: the world. We expanded to seventy five lawyers across the world.

592
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 6: I sold it to Clark Hill in July of twenty

593
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 6: twenty one, so that was the first as well.

594
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Speaker 5: But my point is those same.

595
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 6: Lawyers back in the day were like, oh, you're the

596
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 6: weed lawyer man, and then all of a sudden, big

597
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 6: firm going, we kind of need a weed.

598
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: We would like to have you around, sir. You know.

599
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Speaker 2: You know it's funny though, is that a lot of

600
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people, you know, And if you guys

601
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 2: have been around the block, right, I mean, this isn't

602
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 2: your first rodeo, and we have as well. So when

603
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: we're when we're dealing with people, oh you're in the

604
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 2: cannabis industry, it's like you can see when they're just

605
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: so still uneducated and you know, I don't know what

606
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: we don't. Yeah, every time it's like, oh you get high,

607
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 2: all Dan, I'm like, listen, you know, you have no

608
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: idea And it's unfortunate that there's still people out there

609
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: so the learning curve for them. But I think the

610
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: easiest way is and if you guys were at the

611
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: event last night, I said, it is that the United

612
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: States would never you know, put cannabis and make it

613
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: a medicinal.

614
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 4: How to not have medicinal value.

615
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: There's no way, right we wouldn't say, hey, this is

616
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: medicinal before it is.

617
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: So why can't that click?

618
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 2: And usually it clicks for them right then, And it's like,

619
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: you know, what they don't understand is that they opioid

620
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: you know, epidemic and it's the number one killing of

621
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: white males.

622
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 4: You know, it's a huge deal.

623
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: The number one killer of white males in like twenty

624
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: twenty through twenty twenty three or whatever.

625
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 4: Has been a long time, for a long time, and

626
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: it's highly addictive, and there's a better way, and I

627
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: think you guys are offering those different methods, you know.

628
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: CBN, Dude, that stuff is amazing. What you need is amazing, Dude.

629
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of it, you know. And I don't

630
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: like to get you know, super high. You know, I

631
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: can't do it. I'm just too old, you know, I'm dying.

632
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: Look at me.

633
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: But when I have the right CBN, the right CBD

634
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: in me, I feel great and I feel like my

635
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: body needs it.

636
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 4: And there's a time for that.

637
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: So I think that once people wrap their head around it,

638
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: it's even going to explode more. Not that it already hasn't,

639
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 2: but obviously I think the rest of the world is

640
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: still kind of learning about it, you know.

641
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: And Bob, since you did sell yours, I think you know,

642
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: I can't wait to do lunch with you on you

643
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 3: Since you sold your firm to this big international that

644
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 3: means big money.

645
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: And I'm not mad at that. Oh he said, he said,

646
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 4: lunch on him. Oh he's had a man. Oh that man.

647
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: When I sold to the international couple that I'm buying lunch.

648
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 7: There's corn dogs over there.

649
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 4: I think that I'll take a corn dog in a heartbeat.

650
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: They're getting twisted, you know what I mean. Look at me,

651
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm still a fat baster.

652
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 3: So that's so awesome to know that we have so

653
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 3: many great pioneers in this industry, and it's so dope

654
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 3: to see what you've.

655
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: Done for it.

656
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: And you know, I've heard your name been tossed around

657
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: with so many great things that you've done and represent

658
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 3: If someone's out there listening, are you taking on new

659
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: clients still? I mean, as you're with this big firm,

660
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: you're a partner now in this global organization.

661
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: How do people find you guys? No for the law firm,

662
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: because so many people are looking.

663
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: For international Bob, So how do they Is it just clark.

664
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 6: Hill Law Firm, Clark Hill dot com, Bob Hobin dot com?

665
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: Either way, and find those guys because he's doing his

666
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Speaker 3: big thing. Brett, let's talk for those people that don't

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Speaker 3: know what.

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Speaker 4: MC nutraceuticals are. Give the great description of what you

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Speaker 4: guys do for this industry.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so we're the largest supplier of cannabinoids across the world.

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Speaker 10: We're in twenty seven countries. We service now over six

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Speaker 10: hundred clients, so we're adding about ninety clients a month,

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Speaker 10: roughly growing at a hyper explosive pace. And we make

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Speaker 10: sure that what I call them now are the cannabinoids

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Speaker 10: or vitamins. We make sure that brands across the world

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00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 10: have easy access to vitamins. We ship everything same day,

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Speaker 10: overnight and it comes with a CFA from him like

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Speaker 10: a certification of analysis. So you know, we've we've really

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Speaker 10: helped pioneer the science of people like Chris and and

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Speaker 10: Justin and the science is really important because and like

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Speaker 10: you know, if you don't want to get high and

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Speaker 10: you want to go to sleep, CBN is a good alternative.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, so there's there's all of these things, things

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Speaker 10: that help with inflammation that doesn't get you high again,

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Speaker 10: things that's you know, express your appetite or give you energy.

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Speaker 10: They're just vitamins at the end of the day. So

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Speaker 10: and if you want to get high too, then you

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Speaker 10: can mix them together and then you get both both effects,

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Speaker 10: which is you know where we see most of the

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Speaker 10: demand is somewhere in between.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's no different than like melatonin, you know,

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Speaker 2: like CBN, you except if it's natural, right, so it

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Speaker 2: works better. I mean, would you guys agree with that

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Speaker 2: or am I completely off?

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Speaker 9: Well, you can actually overdose on melatonin a lot easier

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Speaker 9: than you can on CBN.

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Speaker 4: Wow, So I don't think you can overdose on CBN,

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Speaker 4: can you? I don't know. I don't know the limit

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Speaker 4: that you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know who's going to down

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00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: a whole vial though, of you know, someone will I

703
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: do like two full viole like you know, drips of

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00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: not drops. I'll do a whole couple of drips under

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Speaker 3: my tongue. And I mean even this morning. It's part

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Speaker 3: of my regimen. Morning, I'm dropping all whole afternoon. I'm

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Speaker 3: dropping the whole thing, not CBN like CBDA matter of

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Speaker 3: fact that Mary gave gave us.

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Speaker 4: I'm using that nude the one that I gave you

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Speaker 4: the other day.

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Speaker 3: Remember, I use it every day, like two three times

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Speaker 3: a day because I have so many elements in my

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Speaker 3: body that need it.

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Speaker 4: And I see the difference. He likes to suppositories the most. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and Boon does him no gloove peaky style. Look, look

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00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 4: smell peaky.

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Speaker 10: So that I mean, everyone's got an indo cannabinoid system

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Speaker 10: in them. And I'm not a scientist, but our bodies

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Speaker 10: were built to take these cannabinoids. And our bodies weren't

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Speaker 10: necessarily built to take melatonin or if you want to

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Speaker 10: get extreme ambient xanax, you know any of these, you know,

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Speaker 10: pharmaceutical medicines. So in my opinion, I like our bodies

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Speaker 10: were built to consume cannabinoids to some degree.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say, well, listen, guys, before we let you

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Speaker 2: get out of here, is there anything that we forgot

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Speaker 2: that you guys might want to bring up?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Justin Oh, I'm trying to think I think we tackled everything,

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Speaker 9: but plug I mean, yeah, if you want to find us,

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Speaker 9: you can find us at three Chi dot com. You

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Speaker 9: know Curius, Delta eight and other products out there. Three

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Speaker 9: Chi canna on all the socials.

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Speaker 4: Fantastic.

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Speaker 6: I would say this, guys, that just just to think about.

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Speaker 6: There's there's a lot of discussion about this topic. It's

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Speaker 6: important for people, no matter what side of the cannabis

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Speaker 6: industry you're on, to understand it and recognize that if

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Speaker 6: you understand that, you can participate on all sides of

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Speaker 6: the industry. You want to sell more things, not less things.

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Speaker 6: That's what business is all about. And I would say

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Speaker 6: just just I wrote a five part series in Forbes

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Speaker 6: in my column. Two of them are out as of

744
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Speaker 6: this week, the next three year coming out. It details

745
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Speaker 6: this industry and great depth, talks about all these guys

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Speaker 6: and what they do, talks about the market, the policy,

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Speaker 6: the law, and how we got here. I'd encourage everyone

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Speaker 6: to take a look at it. And that's because I

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Speaker 6: wrote it, because it's basic information.

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Speaker 4: No, I think it should because you wrote it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're a lawyer, You've been around a long time,

752
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Speaker 3: you have a lot of knowledge and a lot of experience.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait to read that in Forbes.

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Speaker 3: And what I'm going to ask is, I would love

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Speaker 3: for you to write something for us on our Cannabis

756
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Talk magazine. Yeah, so you can spread your word and

757
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 3: help spread your help your firm.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because if you're writing shit

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Speaker 3: like that for Forbes, just be writing stuff like this

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Speaker 3: for the industry where they can see it. Forbes is

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Speaker 3: great for people who don't know, but this industry needs

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Speaker 3: to know. That's right there, focus hyper focused on it

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Speaker 3: with the magazine.

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Speaker 4: So I would love to do something with you. Make

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Speaker 4: sure we get.

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Speaker 3: Sunday to connect with you and figure out how we

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Speaker 3: can get you involved in our magazine writing some stuff,

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Speaker 3: because that's key.

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Speaker 4: The industry needs everyone's expertise.

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Speaker 3: And like you pointed out before you even said anything,

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Speaker 3: you come from the business standpoint. You understand business operations

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00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: in a law position, and then you bring that position

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Speaker 3: into the cannabis industry, which is things that we've always

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00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: been talking about of what our industry needs.

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Speaker 4: We need those type of professionals. Thank you guys for

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Speaker 4: being here and on the show.

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Speaker 8: And in closing to that and to add to that

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Speaker 8: point very specifically, it's important to from my angle as

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Speaker 8: a scientist and providing the AMMO for lawyer is to

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Speaker 8: to use to support what we're doing here and and

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Speaker 8: the progression.

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Speaker 3: You're the trust but verified guy and and and he

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Speaker 3: right on it too, though.

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Speaker 8: I want all you guys and key to that is

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Speaker 8: the transparency along that sure you know, there's there's the

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Speaker 8: value add and and that's ultimately, uh, what we're trying

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Speaker 8: to do and and bring this uh you know, from

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Speaker 8: out out from under the table in a in a

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Speaker 8: very exposed but relevant and dramatic way to transport ultimately

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Speaker 8: what we know that consumers want, which are cannabinoids and

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Speaker 8: and and and a safe application.

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Speaker 4: Brett anything else.

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Speaker 10: I just want to thank you guys for letting me

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Speaker 10: on again and you know, letting us educate people on

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Speaker 10: these cannabinoids. You guys are probably the biggest name and

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00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 10: edit in talk, I would say, in the media. So

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Speaker 10: thanks again for having me on. And it's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we appreciate your party later too, buddy.

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