WEBVTT - Bucky’s Top Five Draft Prospects by Position 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:06.479 And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.520 What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ, Buck 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:11.680 with you Buck. We are we're closing in. 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:13.720 Dude, I mean we hear DJ. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.920 The conversations and stuff are coming fast and furious. Uh 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.480 is lying season, so you're trying to kind of figure 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.759 out what's real and what's fade. But it's an exciting 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:27.600 time because we got less than a week. Well, we 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:29.840 got a week before the draft, and we'll kind of 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:31.080 have all of it put to bed soon. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:35.400 In we've got we've got a bunch of ground of 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.000 cover day, We've got Bucks Top five, so we're gonna 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.520 jump into that. But before we get there, let's kick 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.360 things off here. It's time for Hot or Not, brought 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.200 to you by with Sabby Hot Cloud Storage. You mentioned 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.040 kind of the the rumors and the information that's floating around. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.080 I joked that during this time of the year, I 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:51.920 start my day every day with a cup of coffee 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:56.720 and three lives. You know, like what you're hearing from teams, like, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.960 that's that's kind of where we are. But uh, you know, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.720 but to me, it is interesting, you know, making phone 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:07.280 calls around the league, and you know, the main conversation 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.360 that I have with teams is who's going to be 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.640 there when we pick, Like that's that's all they want 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.440 to know. That's what they're looking to get from us 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:18.200 during this time of the year. And then in return, 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.959 like I get some you know, medical character stuff on 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.240 guys that could fall could drops, which is helpful as 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.760 we get towards the draft, and you kind of get 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.720 a sense of teams that are picking in different areas 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.320 of the draft, where they think guys outside of their 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.640 range are going, and how they have them stacked, how 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:37.560 their coaches viewed them. And one one, I don't say 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.399 it's a rumor. I think it's a fact. Buck in 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.840 talking to teams. It's somewhat like this in years where 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:45.679 teams have quarterbacks that those teams tend to kind of 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.560 pooh pooh the class. But man, I don't remember it 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.680 like this, Like there's a lot of teams out there 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.280 who think cam Ward is the only first round quarterback. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.280 Like there's a lot of teams and those aren't the 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.720 quarterback teams. So take them for what it is. 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.760 So let's let's be real because I think sometimes DJ 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.320 we've been doing the media part of it for so 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.800 long that sometimes it's easy when we're on TV to 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.680 get away from the true ideals and the true values 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.880 that we have as scouts. And I'll be honest when 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.760 I go through and I look at my grades on 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.519 cam Ward Shoulder all those guys, what that would rate 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.680 in a in a draft meeting room. Bottom of the 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.760 first round grades, That's what it would be. Now, we've 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.480 talked about in recent years, like guys get pushed up whatever, 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.800 which is more of a media thing or whatever. But 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.519 if your team in need of a quarterback and cam 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.280 Ward is the best quarterback on your board, you have 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:39.760 to take him whenever you're picking. 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.320 That's just what it is. But in terms of how. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.040 These guys stack up, how they stack up traditionally over 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:47.280 those guys, I'm gonna say it. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.919 I don't believe anybody in this class is a transcendent quarterback. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.520 There's no one that I would have that would that 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:57.120 I would suggest has the wild factor that the elite 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.520 of the elite quarterback prospects that we've drafted half. 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:01.960 That's just a fact. 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.359 But every year is a year that you have to evaluate, 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.360 and these are the quarterbacks in this class. And so 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.880 you have to figure out who's the best of the class. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.400 And if I need one and I haven't gotten one 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.200 in free agency, I got to take one, and I 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.560 got to make it. I got to make the best 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.160 out of what I get, meaning I get them, I 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.440 got to surround them with the other stuff to allow 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:24.440 him to be successful. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:26.240 And that's just how it goes. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.400 But yeah, like I wouldn't say that this is a 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.600 class that they hail like the nineteen eighty three class 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.680 with you know, Jim Kelly and Elwick. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.960 It's not a class. So that's that's what it is. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.640 Yeah, And though in regards to that the sentiment we're 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.000 a little over week out, this is the where we are. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.280 This is everybody that I've talked to, and kind of 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.400 looking at the situation, I would feel comfortable saying this. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.880 I believe that cam Ward at this point in time, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.120 is the only quarterback who will be a team's first 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.960 pick in this draft, if that makes sense. In other words, Jackson, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.360 dart Shade, or Sanders I think will be a team 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.040 second pick. Now that doesn't mean they don't go in 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.360 the first round. They could easily teams come back up 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.440 and take them. But they're gonna hold up the jersey 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.800 and have the press conference with another player first, and 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.960 then they're gonna introduce the quarterback they took with their 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.159 next pick. Like, that's that's where it looks now a 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.080 week out. If that, if that, if you're if you're 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:22.280 tracking with me there. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:26.120 I'm tracking with you because I think here's the other thing. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.680 And I'm gonna ask you this, DJ, who are the 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.000 elites in the draft? 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:30.080 Like? 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.680 How many guys do you think are the elite prospects 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.919 in this draft class? I said they were five, but 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.760 I said they were five and in whatever order you 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.440 want to list them. I had Travis Hunter, Abdua Carter, 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.240 I think Aston Genty is there, Tyler Warren, and then 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.680 I put Jalen Walker. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.640 Now, and I had Love the only one I had 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:49.640 in that mix with Love one I had. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.720 Okay, So that's six. So so that's that's a reasonable expectation. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.039 So just think about it. In most years we talked 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.960 about eight maybe ten being elite. We talked about eighteen 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.080 to twenty two first rounders. What that says is this 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:07.680 is a draft that doesn't have like a's and a plus. 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.599 It's more of an anus Beef's draft and depending upon 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.920 what you need and how it fits. That's how it 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.680 works when it comes to the quarterbacks. If we were 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.960 doing the vertical board where we're ranking them, so your 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.240 top fifty is what we would call a vertical board 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.880 where you draft, you just ranking them from one to 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:28.200 fifty based on grade, not worrying about position. Where those 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.480 guys listed. Where's kemboard listed on your board? 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:34.320 Hey like, well, to me when this draft, he's like 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.640 my eighth or ninth guy. But I mean he, I mean, 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.839 that's what this draft say. He's got the same grade. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.040 He's got the same grade. Like to me, if I'm 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:48.200 pulling up, pulled up right now, so like full transparency, 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:52.559 he was, I think I gave him a sixty four. Yeah, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.080 so I gave him a sixty four. And then I 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:59.560 have like put it in perspective, Quinn Shawn Judkins. This 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.920 is how like this is the this is the kind 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.839 of the parody of the draft. Quinn Shawn Judkins. I 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.000 gave a sixty four as a running back. Quin Shawn 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:09.680 Judkins is my thirty eighth player. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:12.159 So that's what it is. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.080 So to me, like that, to me, it's not like 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.799 I'm not elevating him over higher rated players. I'm saying, 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:21.040 all of these players in this clump are all graded 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.520 with the same grade, which is just like solid starters 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.799 solid starters. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.120 And so what that does is we talked about beauty 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.400 being the eye of the beholder, and so you talked 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.719 about guys saying, hey, they are the second guy. They're 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.640 not the first person that you can present out with 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.479 the jersey. They're the compliment to hey, we took this guy. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.600 Oh and were there? Yeah. So, but but that's what 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:44.040 it is. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.120 And for me, Look, I had in my notebook, I 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.520 had the same grade Camboard Shoulder Sandus. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:51.400 I just have him flipped. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.760 And the only reason I have flipped because the controversy 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.920 in my top five is like shoulder over cam Ward. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.120 And the only reason why shoulder standards carries that that 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.720 grade is I just have these voices of these quarterback 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.960 coaches in my ear that have said for years the 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:06.800 only two things I care about when it comes to 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.400 quarterback play accuracy. 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:09.760 And decision making. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:11.760 And so when I look at it, I'm like, well, man, 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.680 he's the most accurate, and his decision making on time 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:18.200 is look excellent. And then when you throw toughness in 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.560 I was like, Okay, I can rock with him or whatever. Now, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.920 the draft part of it is a beauty patch where 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.640 you want all the other things. But in terms of playing, 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.520 I think he plays it in a professional manner that 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:32.480 has worked it for years and years on end, which 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.560 is why he's first. And we'll see what it plays out. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.440 But that's just why I have should. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:36.760 Do her first. 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.760 Cam Ward has superior traits and tools when it comes 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.320 to arm tell and whatever. But I'm gonna lie dj. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.520 He scares me sometimes with the lucy goosey stuff, like 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.800 he's so loosey goosey that I'm like, man like, can 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.040 he rein it together? So that's the difference is that's 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.720 where it is. But when we talk about the draft 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:59.440 and landing spots, Shader saying this could be in. 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.000 For a long day. If cam Ward goes one. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.160 If the Giants take best player available at three, the 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:07.640 Saints take best. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:11.000 Player available at nine, there is a long drop. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.280 Then you have the Pittsburgh still is at twenty one 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.720 where they go back and do the quarterback thing again. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.040 When they did Kenny Pickett at twenty a couple of 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.200 years ago and it didn't work. Out, so you move 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.720 them there. The la Rams are at twenty six. Do 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.480 they want to take a quarterback of the future with 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.880 Matthew Stafford. If they don't, DJ, that's the end of 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:29.559 the first round. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:30.200 YEP. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.839 So I mean that's just what it is. So we 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:38.640 named Giants are won Saints. Still, there's four landing spots. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:40.640 That's it. 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.640 All the stuff that we talked about the first round. 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.240 There are four landing spots for quarterbacks. And when we 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.160 talk about the landing spots, the spot has to match 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.319 up with the talent and the grade. And if the 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.839 spot is here and the talent is down here, you're 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.240 not pulling the trigger because now you're going against all 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.880 the philosophies and theories that you had in the draft room. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:05.280 So that is the dilemma when it comes to Shador 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.240 Sanders in company in this draft. 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:13.520 To me, totally honest, this feels exactly like and they're 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.680 different players. I'm not comparing them as players. This feels 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:21.640 exactly like with should the right the week before the 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:26.640 Will Levis draft, where Will Levis was if you remember 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:30.600 it was Colts who were four I believe they were. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.680 They were supposed to be the Levis team so if 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:37.000 not Colts, you couldn't you couldn't connect him to anybody else. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.080 So it was like it sounds weird to say this 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:40.760 guy is going to go four. He could fall out 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.000 of the first round. And that's like the Giants with Shadur. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.800 The Giants are the last to me almost like the 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.240 kind of the last hope there and if they don't 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:53.000 do it, I don't know where he goes. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.640 Man there's not a spot. 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.160 There's not a spot, And I love him and his dad, 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:00.480 but part of it is being real. There's not a 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.880 spot because it's not only the grade is who's available. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.880 It's like catching a cab in New York. The light 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:08.760 has to be on. There are a lot of people 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.960 that are buzzing around Manhattan, but the light's not on, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.959 and so if the light's that on, you're not going. 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.480 And you can hope that someone wants to move into 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.679 the bottom of the first round and all that stuff, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.560 but DJ is still the top of the second round 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:23.480 looks like the first round. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.000 Who is going to move in? 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.920 There's a the limit And the thing that I hate 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.480 because like this is what we do, particularly on our side, 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.920 and because it impacts the people. The draft picks and 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:35.880 their families. We'll talk these guys up like, hey, you know, 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.600 Jackson Dark could go and maybe but maybe not. And 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.520 I don't want people to get caught up because we 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.560 did this years ago with Malik Willis and that class, 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.280 and we tried to put all these guys in the 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:51.560 first round. And when draft they came, the league was like, yeah, no, 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.440 we're not we don't see them as that. We don't 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:58.480 see because Kenny Pickett was the Melik Willis draft right, Ah, yeah, yeah, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.600 he was the only one. And they were like, yeah, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.280 we don't see them as that. And I think Desmond 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:04.760 Ridder was. 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:05.439 In that class too. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.200 So now when we go to it and Desmon Ridder 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.640 gets his chance and all this other stuff like, it 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.840 doesn't end up working out because the talent is the 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.160 talent and ultimately you have to create the talent because 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.200 that's how it turned That's how it turns out. And 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.880 that's also why we're having this thing little sneak peak. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.520 On the path to the draft, we're talking about, hey, 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.559 is it worth taking a quarterback in the second round? 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.960 And my thing was how many of those guys have 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:30.440 worked out? 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.800 Yeah, it sounds great when we're theorizing like, oh, you know, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.360 we can go and get this guy in the second round. DJ, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.840 it's a first round quarterback league. The guys that play 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:47.280 quarterback in this league are first rounders. That's what it is. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.400 I mean, Brock Freddy is an outlier. Jalen Hurst, Dak Prescott, 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.000 they're outliers. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:55.439 They're not the norm. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.839 This league is a first round quarterback lead because when 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.679 we great quarterbacks first round grade, they check off enough 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.240 boxes when it comes to the redeeming qualities to play 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:06.959 the position at a high. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:08.600 Level in the pros. 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.960 And if you don't have those skills to I suggest 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.840 that you're not going to play quarterback at a high level. 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:14.679 That's just what it is. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.360 You know, it'd be interesting to go back and look 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:21.000 at those guys who have been successful, non first round picks. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:25.480 Most of them were afforded some patients right, didn't come 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.120 in with fanfare. Had another quarterback there. I think a 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.040 Jalen Hurts is a great example, Like he didn't have 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.000 to step right in, you know, like that was kind 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.800 of a process. Carson Wentz. Thing kind of happened and 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.280 and then he you know, off he goes. But there's 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:41.240 there's less pressure with those guys, and you're you to me, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.600 like if we're talking about you're taking a quarterback in 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.280 the second round and you're hoping he's going to be 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.400 your answer like in the near future, Like to me, 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.720 that's and when you're talking about a coaches on hot 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.040 seats need a guy to come in and play right away, 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:55.920 then you either take one in the first round, or 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.000 you probably should wait. You know that's you should wait. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.360 Ye time. If you got time and you're the Eagles, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.480 you can take a flyer on Jalen Hurts. It might 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:04.080 hit it, you know. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:04.960 Yeah. 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.680 But also they come in with less expectations. They also 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.040 come in on a different plan in the building. So 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.800 the plan in the building for Jalen Hurts when he 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.600 stepped into Eagles wasn't to get him ready to start. 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.840 It was simply to make him a better play. And 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.080 then you look up on the practice field and then 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:24.920 you and I on the side like, hey, you know what, Hey, 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.360 Jalen Chance looks pretty good. He's kind of given the 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:34.280 defense some work, Like, oh, maybe it surprises us that 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.880 he developed the way that he developed, But it wasn't 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.880 the expectation that he was going to come in and 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:44.400 those expectations drive everything inside and outside, because if you 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.360 take him and they're saying, oh, we got to get 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.200 him ready to play, well, now the fans are like, hey, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.880 we got to get the second round pick on the field, 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.160 and you're like, we. 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.480 Took him in the second round pick. 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.320 Yeah, because he's a developmental guy, not because he's a 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.720 finished product. So the expectations and all that other stuff 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.079 it can get, it can get out of whack if 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:04.520 you take someone at the wrong position. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.640 Yeah, no doubt. All right, Well, there's a little idea 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.200 of kind of what's cooking on the on the hot 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.720 stove there. That was this week's Hot or Not segment. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.120 Brought to you by with Sabby Hot Cloud Storage, Store 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.400 more and do more with your data. Try them for 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.400 free at withsabby dot com quick Break and we'll be 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:28.800 right back. All right, buck, let's jam through your top fives. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.800 I want to know your toughest decision in these positions, 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.680 so I will give you the floor. Is this your 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.080 final Is this the final addition? 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.280 I don't know it's the final edition until I wait 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:37.840 the day befront of drivers, say hey, can I put 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.200 one more up there? To make sure I get it right, Look, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.160 we had the toughest conversation. So the toughest conversation for 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:49.000 me is one DJ These things run a typical to how. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:51.800 We operate in the real world, right, the real scouting world. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.000 We're not going to continue to keep doing these updates 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.640 on updates on updates when it comes to rankings because 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.360 there aren't any more games to watch, there's no more 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.840 film to so like, what are we doing but to 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.200 play along? For this, the toughest thing for me was 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.120 one standing firm with the quarterback. Which look, I'm the 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:12.320 outlier in the situation putting Travis Hunter in at wide 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.200 receiver officially because my heart of hearts, I believe that 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:17.440 he is better served to be a dB. But I've 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.400 come around to the fact that a he wants to 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.320 play wide receiver, and two when I rate him as 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.720 a wide receiver compared to the other guys, he's the 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.800 most intriguing prospect because of what he brings to the table. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.240 So that part is everything. And the more I listen 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.200 to him tomorrow fall in love with like how committed 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.880 he is to the game. Like I heard you say 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.160 on TV yesterday, Man, you just love him. The more 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.960 that you hear him talk. He's all about the right stuff, 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:47.280 which is why I'm a big believer. Moving Mason Graham 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:52.520 up to that third spot and saying that he could 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.600 be the third tied end to go in the first. 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.840 Round to me, taylorson Taylor, Mason Taylor. 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.240 Yeah, Mason Taylor. Moving him up to the third spot. 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.400 To me, he's intriguing because I gave him the look 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:04.840 over and I was like, man, he's really good. But 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.400 now I'm like, okay, at the bottom of the first round, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.160 there's a lot of stuff there. I think he's a 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.840 really safe bet to be really productive, and there's some 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.240 teams that are gonna be in need of a tight 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.640 end in the twenties, so he fits so early on 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:20.240 on offense. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:21.880 Those are the biggest debate that I had. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.160 Yeah, And you know, it's funny. I was talking to 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.120 a team. I'm talking to two teams, and we were 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:31.840 talking about who's your, who's your? We got wiped out? 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.920 Pick You've been in there, you know how that is. 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.680 It's like, hey, you know, gosh, we're hoping we get 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.520 two of these guys, but like, man, if we get 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.720 wiped out, like all the guys that we had up 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.960 there and they're gone, Like you know who the two 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.440 guys are that to me make the most sense, as like, Okay, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.600 we got cleaned out, so I'm comfortable taking this guy, 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.200 Mason Taylor this one double off the wall every day 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.480 of the week, and tray Von Henderson's the other one. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:17:02.040 Oh good character, production, intelligence, all that stuff, like both 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.080 I mean and Treyvon Henderson. You might even both these 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.160 guys you could hit big. I trust me. I've seen 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.800 Ed Reid was viewed as a double and he's get 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:13.399 it right again. So I've seen those guys be more 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:15.399 than that. But to me, like high floor guys, I 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.040 think like Mason Taylor Trayvon Henderson, like, hey, we got 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:19.800 wiped out, you can do a lot worse. Those guys 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.919 are gonna start for you and be impact players. 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:23.960 And I'm with you on that. 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:26.480 And there's something too that when we're going through the 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.400 process and making sure that we have the right guys 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:30.760 and doing those things like. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.280 That's a part of it. DJ. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.119 One of the conversations that I've had is I'm on 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:39.200 membun like coming out of the combine looking at the 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:40.520 tabe like just fell in love with him. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:41.920 But I don't get that same sentiment. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.879 And when I talk to people in the league, I 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.399 don't get the same sentiment that he is viewed maybe 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.880 with the same adoration that we that I may have 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.359 on this side or whatever. And it's funny because when 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.320 you look at someone three hundred and thirty pounds run 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.760 what he runs at the combine and you look at 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:02.160 the tape and he's moving, he's his zone buster all day. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.000 He can do all those things. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.040 There's a lot to like. But man, the feedback I get. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.280 From some of my buddies, they're like, I don't know 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.159 this and that I don't know if he's what you 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:12.720 think buck. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.560 So it it's a challenge. 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.639 Yeah, you know, the there's always guys that I have 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.560 that There's always one guy that I'm like, I'm too 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.639 low on this guy late in the process, right, And 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:27.800 I've heard it, and I you know, I trust what 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.200 I saw. I did not I can't unsee it. So 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.440