1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Very good. Yeah, you do your part. Well, I'm a 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: good monkey. Do you read the card or is it 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: gonna no? I memorize that part just come flowing out. 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna after two thirty, we're gonna go to Moscow, Idaho. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking to Brian Enton, who was with 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: News Nation. They're doing a special on Sunday night, and 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: he's been there reporting on this story as a senior 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: national correspondent. And we have yet to speak to anybody 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: in Moscow itself. We've certainly picked up news reports from 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: various media outlets, but he's probably been there. He's been 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: talking to people. You're probably aware by now, John, there's 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: a big network of theories as to who and what 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: took the lives of these four college students. It's almost 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: three weeks ago. I think this Sunday will be three 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: weeks since the bodies were discovered, and all the bizarre 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: information that's come out. You know, a big bird this 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: week is targeted, which was most people interpreted meant one 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: of the students was targeted, and then it turned into 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: maybe the house was targeted, which was a bizarre twist. 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: And you know, it's filled the gap of information. The 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: vacuum is every moron with nothing to do on the internet. 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Because there is now a private Facebook group that has 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: more than thirty two thousand members. So you got thirty 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: two thousand people online gallery sharing their own right, Yes, 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: their clues in there. There is information. There's another group 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: on Reddit has more than twenty seven thousand members. There 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: is a a series of TikTok posts have more than 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: ninety four million views. So this is how people spend 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: free time now. They don't watch television very much or 30 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: go to the movie reality showman. It's not fiction. Yeah, 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: and people were murdered brutally in their beds. I mean, 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: who could have done this and especially in a quiet, 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: sleepy town. And the product he said, what they had 34 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: one murder this year or one murder last They had 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: one murder. The last murder was seven years ago. Oh geez. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why this is really stunning. That's why 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: when you see the cops on screen, I don't know 38 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: what they're doing practice. Uh. Now, the case that you 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: brought up yesterday, Gabby Petito, you regret that already you 40 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: you were you were baffled by the amount of interest 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: in it. It's way worse than you thought. Um, The 42 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: Gabby Petito series of TikTok's with a dedicated hashtag racked 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: up more than one billion views on TikTok with the 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: hashtag what well TikTok is? You put videos on TikTok? Right? Oh, 45 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: I know what TikTok is? Okay. So then they have hashtags, 46 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: just like all the social media does, and if you 47 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: type in the hashtag in the search box, it'll show 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: you everything there is on the subject. So if you 49 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: went to TikTok and typed in Gabby Petito, you would 50 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: get a series of videos that totaled up to one 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: billion views. We're not at that point yet for the 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: Idaho murderers. I think we're gonna get there though. Well 53 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: this goes cold, people will move on, that's the thing, 54 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: you know. After three weeks they're like, well, the Potito 55 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: story went on a long time. Wait too long for 56 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: I didn't really follow it until I but I said, like, 57 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: within days the boyfriend killed her, so let's just move on, right, 58 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: But hopefully they find her body and then him where's 59 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: the body? See they play these are like board games, 60 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: and it's like where's the body? Wow, it's a big 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: world out there, and if you remember Gabby Petito and 62 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: her boyfriend, we're traveling all over the west, right, so 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: that body could be in a thousand different places. And 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: then when he disappeared, where's the body? They you know, 65 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: somewhere in Florida or on the East coast. And so 66 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: I realized this, these are these are this kind of 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't find that as interesting as who's the murderer? 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's that's how I played the game Clue, right, 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: the board game Clue, you're trying to figure out who 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: did it? Was Hurdle Mustards. We went from board to 71 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: where the body is? It's not that fascinating video games 72 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: to reality games. Yeah, I know. And now you can 73 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: go online and play with tens of thousands of other 74 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: people where's the body? Yeah? Well, people are playing the 75 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: game that I just with the murders in Idaho. Because 76 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: they're picking out a guy at the food truck. You're 77 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: picking out that weird neighbor who called themselves socially awkward. 78 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: They're picking out people that they think ought to be 79 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: further investigated. So it's not it's not that far from Clue, 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: though you want to hear today's titleading detail. Yes, all right, 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop it like a bombshell. There was a 82 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: sixth person on the lease. Who is that person and 83 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: where are they? Right? Well, police confirmed this afternoon that 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: they were not home at the time of the murders. 85 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: They must have a good alibi. Whoever it is, I 86 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: don't know who it is. Probably a girl, Yeah, probably 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: a girl, right, because they're an early Thanksgiving or just 88 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: a weekend off. Three three of the girls who lived 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: there got killed. One was a boyfriend that the fourth 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: one was a boyfriend who does not live their full time. 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: There were two other roommates who survived, sir, right, there's 92 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: one empty bedroom because there there was a sixth Right, 93 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: there was a sixth person on the lease. So I 94 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: think you're right too. I think it was an all 95 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: girl house and they just but just you know, you 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: look at that right away, you're like, Oh, that's who 97 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: did it. They killed them all and ran off. Well, yeah, 98 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny that that took two weeks for 99 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: that little piece of information to almost three. I almost 100 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: three this weekend. Yeah, isn't it this? Yeah, I've lost track. 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: It seems like we've always had this story. They no, 102 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: let's see, we're gonna look for the dates here, but anyway, 103 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: I think it h yeah, no, uh, November fifteenth. The 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: police put out a statement twenty second twenty It would 105 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: be three weeks this weekend. I think. All right, So 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: we'll be talking to Brian after the news coming up 107 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: after two thirty. The other thing going on right now, 108 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: if you're interested, is Elon Musk. That's all you need 109 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: to say. Elon Musk is releasing as we speak on Twitter, 110 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: he will publish what really happened with the Hunter Biden 111 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: story suppression. That would be the laptop story from the 112 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: fall of twenty twenty, right, and the New York Post. 113 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: He's releasing that side. Yeah, it was supposed to be 114 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: five o'clock Eastern time, two o'clock here. Yeah, it's now 115 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: past two o'clock, so it's supposed we're coming out. While 116 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: we were talking, I was looking online to see if 117 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the news had broke yet. Oh, well I don't. I'm 118 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: not on Twitter, so I can't actually go read it. 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you are either. So you have reports, 120 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: you can visit Twitter, you can visit that's what hashtags 121 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: are for. Well, he said, quote this will be awesome, 122 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: and he accompanied with a popcorn emoji. Oh, it says 123 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: he will, I just called up Elon Musk's account will 124 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: include live question and answer yes, And then it's here 125 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: we go all right, and then it's uh, well, these 126 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: are people all talking to each other here. Now, remember 127 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't have Twitter originally said well, we don't allow 128 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: things on our social media that were from a hack. Well, 129 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: this was not a hack. This was a laptop left 130 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: at a repair shop. They lied it was a cover story. 131 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: And then of course we heard, well this sounds like 132 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation, right, And that was the official government instruction. 133 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: That's what the FBI told Mark Zuckerberg. They actually went 134 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: to him, if you remember, that's the reason Facebook also 135 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: suppressed the story. And if you remember New York Post 136 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: had a famous cover there were fifty one people from 137 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: the Intelligence community CIA connected people connected to the Defense 138 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: Department in various national defense wings, and they all fifty 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: one signed a paper saying this is Russian disinformation, and 140 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: then the Post put their photos on the front page. 141 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: After they were proven wrong, contacted each one of them, 142 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of them either were sticking by their 143 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: story or respond Very few, if any said, Oh, yeah, 144 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: I guess we blew that because they were all told 145 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: this is going to be the official government story. This 146 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: is what they do in China, this is what they 147 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: do in Russia. There was an official government story, and 148 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: nobody was going to say anything to benefit Donald Trump. 149 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Everyone was going to deny the existence of this story 150 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: or the veracity of the story. Just to give you 151 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: a quick recap, a guy by the name of John 152 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Paul mcisac as the owner of a computer store in Delaware, 153 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden abandon the laptop there. He gave a copy 154 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: of the hard drive to Rudy Giuliani in September of 155 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Giuliani then leaked documents and photos to The 156 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: New York Post and gave a whole copy to Steve 157 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: Bannon and his podcast co host Maxie So. But the Post, 158 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: of course began publishing the emails of photos, excerpts, and 159 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: many in social media said, no, we're not going there, 160 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: particularly since we were now in October of twenty twenty, 161 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: very close to the election. Nothing damaging against Biden. So 162 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on that story. What we think 163 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: this will be, I guess will be a dump of 164 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: internal communications between Twitter exactly. Claimed he was going to 165 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: release all the files, the files. Yeah, so well, Trump 166 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: didn't take those files with him tomorrow. Lago different file, 167 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: different files, Yeah, different file. There are a lot of 168 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: secret files out there. We'll keep an eye in that story, 169 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: see if there is anything awesome in it. I've got 170 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: my popcorn ready, Johnny ken KF. I am six forty 171 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. Nobody puts a smile on 172 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: my face like I do. If you're getting this debrirter, 173 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: just awful, right, it's beyond you're you're the show censor. 174 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm appalled. Hi. That's right. We're gonna give her 175 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: a dump button. I need I need a spanking, uh calf. 176 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: I am sixty Johnny Kenching sound there you go. We'll 177 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: be talking the Idaho murders with somebody who is in Moscow, 178 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: Idaho from News Nation. Brian Enton will join us. He's 179 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: doing a special for that network on Sunday night. We'll 180 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: get into all the details and see what he's been 181 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: able to learn by talking to people in that town, 182 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: that very small town where the four college students were 183 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: murdered in their beds. A few weeks ago in an 184 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: off campus house. Anything on elon that you're finding or no, nothing, 185 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: no bombshells yet, are you? Well? Ye know what Twitter 186 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: was doing back in twenty twenty to suppress the Hunter 187 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Biden laptop story. So erradical. You never know from moment 188 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: to moments. So no, it's called it off. I'm assuming 189 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: he was going to it says we'll be published on 190 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Twitter at five pm, So I assumed it was going 191 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: to be under his account, right under his name. Well 192 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: maybe it's one of those things that were trying to 193 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: build up, you know, suspense not writing it too. It's 194 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: going to come out sometime in the next hour. I 195 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: would I would a mute. I would imagine there would 196 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: be a link to like some kind of massive files 197 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: so that everybody could play along and go through the 198 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: pages of the documents. But yeah, what do I know? See, 199 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: I realized now, all this is a game. This is 200 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: like modern the modern game shows, you know, find the murderer, 201 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: find where the body's head. Let's figure out the Twitter 202 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: scandal and you can add you know, millions of people 203 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: playing at the same time. That's the appeal here. Well, 204 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: I think that unites us in some way. Right, this 205 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: is what replaced all the old entertainment options we have. Yeah, right, 206 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: everybody used to watch shows because there are only three 207 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: networks back in the day, and now everybody's focused on 208 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: one of these crazy nationwide stories. And you know, you 209 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: have a crazy central character like Elon Muski. He's a 210 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: great character. You know, people hate him, people love him, 211 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: but I mean, he's colorful, he's fast mating. I remember 212 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: he came onto I'm in fact, I think we're gonna 213 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: do this story later. He came onto our radar because 214 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: he started to complain about the traffic in southern California, 215 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: particularly on his way to one of the headquarters for Tesla, 216 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: or one of his companies, SpaceX, and that's where he 217 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: came up with the idea of tunneling. Yes, so the 218 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: boring company was formed, and the idea was to, uh, 219 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: you'd kind of get your car into like a massive 220 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: elevator and it drops deep underground and then all the 221 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: cars are kind of locked together in some chain and 222 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: they take you to your destination. I don't know much 223 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: more about it, but that he's still he's still working 224 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: on that. That's what we'll tell you coming up it. 225 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: I think he moved on to more. He has like 226 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: the little kid that gets distracted by the next right object. Right, Well, 227 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: I mean it's not fun burrowing dark holes. That's why 228 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: it's called the boring company. That's right, It's all right. Well, 229 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: speaking of boring drilling, the Los Angeles City Council has 230 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: decided that the city of LA will get out of 231 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: the oil drilling business prominently. It's is mostly symbolic. Are 232 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of these left? I mean occasionally 233 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: when you're driving around, like on Lasianego, you can still 234 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: see those old pumps going up and down those wells. 235 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Frank and they use those a lot of movies to 236 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: give people lists. There any other areas where they're still 237 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: pumping while besides, I see one every now and then 238 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: in other places sides that area. I knew they used 239 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: to have them near Beverly Hills High School because there 240 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: was a ruckus a few years ago over that, remember, broc. Yeah, 241 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: the kids are breathing that in because not only not 242 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: only is there oil, but there's methane underground, which is 243 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: why for for decades they wouldn't build a subway underneath 244 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Wilshre Boulevard going through Beverly Hills onto the West side 245 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: because they feared a methane explosion. Right, I guess now 246 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: they don't care. So it was twelve to zero. I 247 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: guess three people didn't vote, or no, maybe there's not 248 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: those minutes. Those are the people in jail ones they 249 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: didn't vote, or those are the people that are off 250 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: the city council for now. That's right there in Woke jail. 251 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: The move was opposed by the oil industry, saying that 252 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: again it's going to make LA more dependent on far 253 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: and oil. It'll hurt the city's finances. LA has twenty 254 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: six oil and gas fields and more than five thousand 255 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: oil and gas wells. Some are active, some are not. 256 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Many wells are found in the Wilmington and the Harbor area. 257 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh down there, Yeah, yes, I think I've seen that. Yeah, 258 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: I don't get there's some downtown, some in West LA 259 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: John closer to you, Yes, some in South LA and 260 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: the northwest San Fernando Valley. According to the city's planning 261 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: to part I love looking at them. Well, oh, there 262 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: is something kind of uh. They're like these big monsters, 263 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: like an erector set, a large director set that somebody 264 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: put together. They're constantly bobbing up and grinding away, almost 265 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: like a living organism. Yeah, up and down, grinding away. 266 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: It's bobbing like a like a duck or a I 267 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: find industrial stuff cool. A lot of people think think 268 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: it's ugly, but I love looking at that stuff. Oh 269 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: are you one of the old men that goes to 270 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: construction sites and stairs at the bulldozers? I have them 271 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. I will be you will be down 272 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: the road. Sure, I could be entertained with Did you 273 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: play with trunks and stuff when you were a kid 274 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: in the dirt, like pretending you're bulldozing? Did you do that? Or? Um? Yeah? 275 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: I played with the cars and not trucks. All car 276 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: is better. I wasn't a big fan of trucks. I 277 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: like buses. I liked, um what other kind of transport 278 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: that I like? But I didn't really have I had 279 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: those matchbox cars, had tons of them. Remember all the 280 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Matchbox Car series? Oh yeah, yeah, Oh, I was excited 281 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: to get the newest one. I'd run down to the 282 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: little five and dime store waiting for the new Matchbox 283 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: car to come out. Yeah. No, I had Johnny Lightning 284 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: cars and Johnny Lightning track. No, I don't know that one. 285 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. How should I describe it? You 286 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: put the car on the track and there was a 287 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: little stick, right and if and if I pulled on 288 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: a trigger, the stick would fling the car down the 289 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: track and go up and down and up and down 290 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: and around and around. Oh, loops and stuff, loops and stuff. Yeah, yeah, 291 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: that was a good Christmas gift. It says here that, 292 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: according to a June twenty twenty study, the oil and 293 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: gas industry brings it about two hundred and fifty million 294 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: to the city's general funds. Well, it's not bad, it 295 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: scoff at two hundred fifty million, that's a lot of money. 296 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: But they're concerned about the carcinogens and this is severely 297 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: impacting the underserved communities. That was Paul Kory and your 298 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: friend the chin bag called it. Oh no, that's that's corress. 299 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: That's correct. Coorian called it a monumental step and the history. 300 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: I just wondered, maybe it's not such. I thought it 301 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: might be virtual sigling, because I didn't know how many 302 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: of these were lap But there are some wells left 303 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: and they're not going to permit any obviously, any new ones. 304 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: Now you look at the gas prices and people will 305 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: probably be scratching their heads. I mean, you may hate 306 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: oil which turns into gasoline, but that's the way most 307 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: people power their autom appeals right now and will be 308 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: for quite a while. There we're still in this denial land. 309 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: There was there was an article I read I should 310 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: find it. It was in the Washington Examiner, and the 311 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: writer wrote, he said, you know, fossil fuels are really 312 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: like the greatest invention in the history of man. What 313 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: it has allowed human beings to do and accomplish and build. 314 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: And now you know it. This is the most ridiculous 315 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: era that we're living in right now, where people are 316 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: not a preciating one of the greatest sets of inventions. 317 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: How we discovered the oil, learned how to get it 318 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: out of the ground, learned what it can do, built 319 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: the devices to use it. Those devices create everything we have. 320 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: It creates. You cannot have any wealth anywhere in the 321 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: world unless you're burning fossil fuels. And it's just absolutely 322 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: fascinating that that's number one on the enemy list. None 323 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: of us have anything in our lives if we don't 324 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: burn fossil fuels. There's hardly a product that exists. All right. 325 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: When we return, our guests will be Brian Enton from 326 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: News Nation. The network is doing a special on the 327 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Idaho murder is coming up this weekend and he is 328 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: in Moscow, Idaho. He'll talk to us. Johnny ken KF 329 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: I am six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app all Right, Well, 330 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: the murders of the college students in Moscow, Idaho continues 331 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: to be a baffling search for the murder, weapon, the murder, 332 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: and strange information that's come out of people involved in 333 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: the investigation, police and a prosecutor. We're gonna be joined 334 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: now by Brian Enton with News Nation. He's got he's 335 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: in Moscow and he's got a special coming up this 336 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Sunday on the whole mystery behind this. It'll air six 337 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: o'clock our time, nine o'clock Eastern on NewsNation. And News 338 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: Nation is a cable channel on your system and you 339 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: should watch it. It's got a lot of good stuff. 340 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: How are you, Brian, come on on, Hey, yeah, thanks 341 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. I'm just I'm here 342 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: in Moscow. A lot of snow cold here, and it's uh, 343 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, got a there's a creepy vibe. I mean, 344 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people are nervous if this killer is 345 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: still still out there. What is your evaluation of the 346 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: local police department. So I've spent time with the police 347 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: and the prosecutor. I think they're working really, really hard, 348 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: like literally around the clock. I think they're dedicated. They've 349 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: got the FBI in here assisting them, dozens of agents, 350 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of resources oda Hoste police. I 351 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: think Dave had some issues with messaging and communication that's 352 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: frustrated the community and the families specifically. You know, in 353 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: the very beginning, they said that the community was safe, 354 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: and then they backtracked on that, and then they've gone 355 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: back and forth about about saying the victims were targeted. 356 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: First said they were targeted, then the prosecutor told me 357 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: it was actually the house that was targeted, and now 358 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: the police have gone back again and said no, no, 359 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: we're just going back to targeted. There seems to be 360 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: conflicting messages between the prosecutors and the police, like they 361 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: have two different streams of information going. Yeah, basically they 362 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: told me that it was an internal miss communication. The 363 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: prosecutor is very much involved in the investigation. You know, 364 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: it's it's a small town, so he works closely with 365 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: the police every day. But yeah, it was very strange 366 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: that they weren't able to get their ducks in a 367 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: row with some of these facts. Well, let me ask 368 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: you this, which way would you go with the following question. 369 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Either they don't know a lot and therefore there wasn't 370 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: much to share, or they have a lot that they 371 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: do not want to share it because they're looking for 372 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: a murderer or murderers. Which way do you think this goes? 373 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: I think, based on my last one on one interview 374 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: with the police end prostitutor, which was on Tuesday, so 375 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: it's been a couple of days now that they don't 376 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: know much and that they're being honest in the fact 377 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: that they don't know much. They said flat out, they 378 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: don't have a suspect, they don't have a person of interest, 379 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: they don't have video of a suspect anywhere, because there 380 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: was lots of rumors though there might be a ring 381 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: camera and they've got the video and they're not sharing it. 382 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I took them at their word. The prosecutors 383 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: from here that you know, they're all old timers and 384 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: and I don't think they were lying. I think they 385 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: really don't know who did this. Have they indicated if 386 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: there's any DNA evidence from the killer? I mean there was, 387 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: we're getting lab results. Now we understand there was an 388 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: ocean of blood, and it looks like maybe at least 389 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: one of the girls struggled and tried to fight off 390 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: the killer. He must have suffered a cut if he's 391 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: got this big knife that he was able to kill 392 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 1: four people with. Yeah, you would think, and you're right, 393 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: there was a lot of blood. There was so much blood. 394 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: There was some like seeping out the back of the house. 395 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: So surely there's DNA. You're right that the results started 396 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: coming back, they told us from the Idaho State Crime Lab. 397 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: But you know, it's it was a party house. I 398 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: mean the neighbors all say it. They had parties every weekend, 399 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: people coming and going all the time. You know, six 400 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: six bedrooms, a lot of people in and out of 401 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: that place. So in terms of DNA, there's probably a 402 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: lot of DNA in there. But you would think with 403 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: such a gruesome crime scene that there's got to be footprints. 404 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: There must be something that they have, But they're not 405 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,959 Speaker 1: sharing that with us at all. It would they have 406 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: open house parties where people in the town, not just 407 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: college student and some friends, but they you see a party, 408 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: you knew to go there and you could wander in 409 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: and wander out. It seems like it, again based on 410 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: the neighbors there. It's right near where all the fraternities 411 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: and sororities are and basically on the neighbors tell me 412 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: they were like two party houses on the street. This 413 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: was one of them. And even in the social media 414 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: photos you can see in the background there's a lot 415 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: of cups and it seems like this is a place 416 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: people would go, you know, to have a good time 417 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: on the weekend. What are you hearing from people you 418 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: talk to in Moscow? They all have their own theories. 419 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: They're all very nervous. What's the mood there? They really 420 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: are nervous. I mean it's a small town. There hasn't 421 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: been a murder in years, and there's just this feeling 422 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: like the killer could be walking in the town and 423 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: they don't know it. I mean, there was a vigil 424 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: a couple of nights ago. They had metal detectors. They 425 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: were police and the rafters with binoculars. You know a 426 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: lot of the students, you know, they walk in groups, 427 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: they don't walk alone. People won't come outside at night, 428 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: as even people that have installed ring cameras and extra 429 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: locks on their doors. So it really, I mean, there 430 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: really is this sense of anxiousness and just people are scared. Well, 431 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: this is where the whole targeted thing comes in, because 432 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: at first I thought the police said that to try 433 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: to make people a tamp down the belief that there 434 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: is a random killer out there. Targeted made me believe 435 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: that even though this is awful, they came looking for 436 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: one or more of these four college students to kill 437 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: and that could be the end of the story versus 438 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: the idea that there is just some sort of serial 439 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: killer out there. Yeah. I think that police are walking 440 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: a fine line because they I mean, the community is 441 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: already so on edge. You've got a big university there. 442 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: The kids came back after Thanksgiving. They had the option 443 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: of going online if they were too scared to come back, 444 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: but some did come back. I just think they're walking 445 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: that line of not wanting everyone to just be scared 446 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: all the time, but at the same time they're trying 447 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: to be truthful with people that it sounds like they 448 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: just really don't know much. This makes an ado left 449 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: field and you may not that no one answered to this, 450 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: but I'm curious when you know, FBI comes to town. Yeah, 451 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: profile has come to town. Have you heard any discussion 452 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: about whether a crime scene executed by someone who was 453 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: close to one of the girls would look differently than 454 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: a crime scene by a guy from out of town 455 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: who was just a psycho serial killer. That's a really 456 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: good question. Yeah. Well, there's no fourth entry, so that 457 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: makes you think that it's someone who knew the house 458 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: or knew how to get in. They didn't have to 459 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: break a window or anything like that. There's all sorts 460 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: of questions about this dog. There was a dog in 461 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: the house that you know, there were roommates that slept, 462 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: so people are speculating did the dog not bark? Is 463 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: it is did the dog recognize the killer? Or maybe 464 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: the dog just wasn't a barker. So, yeah, there is 465 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: there is this theory. Is it someone that they knew 466 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: or someone who had partied at the house. We just 467 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: don't know. And this person that called nine one one 468 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: that Sunday hours apparently after the murders always bothered me. 469 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: And that the call was about, well, they're unresponsive, Brian, 470 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. If there's so much blood, it would 471 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: seem to me that'd be a more urgent sense to 472 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: a call than just this person isn't responding. I didn't 473 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: really understand that. Yeah, that's I mean, there's so many 474 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: perplexing things about this case that just don't make sensors, 475 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: I think is why it's getting so much interest. That's 476 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: one of them. But one possible theory if some of 477 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: the neighbors had told us that the bedrooms had individual locks, 478 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: because you know, there were six different roommates, five or 479 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: six different roommates, and people would come there to party 480 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: and hang out, Like you don't want to have your 481 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: bedroom door locked. Is it possible that like one of 482 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: the roommates just wasn't opening the door and they were 483 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: being on the door and then called the police and 484 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: didn't actually see the blood inside. I think that could 485 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: be a possibility, because you're right, you'd think that they 486 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: would have seen, you know, blood or something. They wouldn't 487 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: just think the person was asleep. And the murders were 488 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: committed in just two bedrooms. Were there two people in 489 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: each bedroom? Is that what we understand or so the 490 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: police aren't giving us the specifics. We know the murders 491 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: were committed on the second and third floor is a 492 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: three story house. And then according to Kayley, one of 493 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: the victim's dad, she was in the bed with her 494 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: best friend Maddie, so we know they were together in 495 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: one room, in one bed. And in terms of the 496 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: other two victims, police aren't giving us the layout of 497 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: exactly where they were. All right, A right, So talk 498 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: about this special you have coming up on Sunday. Yeah, 499 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: so we've been out here, you know, newstation has been 500 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: out here for weeks, and so we're sort of culminating 501 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: all of our coverage into this special that's going to 502 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: be Sunday night on NewsNation, and you know, we're going 503 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: to go through the whole thing, the whole timeline in detail, 504 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: a lot of exclusive new elements with the interviews with 505 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: family members. We're actually getting into the Idaho Crime Lab 506 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: to see the way that works and the way they 507 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: test in these kinds of cases. So it'll really just 508 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: kind of be a place if you're interested in the case, 509 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: we sort of have an hour and pretty much get 510 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: everything you need to know and kind of get up 511 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: to speed on the whole thing. All right, it's gonna 512 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: be Sunday night night, six o'clock here on the Pacific 513 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: host nine o'clock Eastern. Yes, sir, that's right, all right, 514 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: Special report Idaho Murder Mystery. Brian, thanks for coming on. 515 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate it. Right. 516 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: That's Brian Enton. He is in Moscow, Idaho. And again 517 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: that special of News Nation is six pm Pacific time 518 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: Sunday on the Idaho Murder Mystery. More coming up, Johnny 519 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: ken KF. I am six forty live everywhere on the 520 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio and when we come back, I have a thought. 521 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: There's a I have a thought, just one, just one, 522 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: every one a day. Something popped into my mind as 523 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: we were talking to him. There's a little piece there, 524 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: a new theory. Well, there's a little piece of this 525 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: that reminds me of a famous major case we covered 526 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: a long time ago. Interesting wart to tell you about 527 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: we come back. But we were just talking with Brian Enton. 528 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: He's the senior national correspondent for News Nation, which is 529 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: a cable channel that does a lot of news at night. 530 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: They and they do straight news right without all the nonsense. 531 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Slanting and bias, and because I watched it sometimes and 532 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: they have a special coming up a six o'clock Pacific 533 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: time on Sunday on the Idaho murders. And as we 534 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: were talking to him, the idea of an of having 535 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: a big party house where a lot of people roam 536 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: in and out at the parties. Yes, oh, and now 537 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: who are you thinking of? The Van Dams? The Van 538 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: Dams and David Westerfield. Because remember this goes back over 539 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: twenty years. A lot of people may not remember this, 540 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: but down in the San Diego area there was a 541 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: little girl, she's seven years old, I think Danielle Van 542 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: Dam and she was murdered by this large beast, David Westerfield, 543 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: who eventually got convicted. He got the death penalty and 544 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: he's spending his the rest of his life at least 545 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: at San Quentin. But there's whole There's the whole things like, oh, 546 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: how would David Westerfield get to know who the seven 547 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: year old girl is? What was the connection? And one 548 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: of the things that came out during the investigation in 549 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: the trial is the Van Damns would have swinger parties 550 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: and Westerfield was aware of them, but was not invited 551 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: to participate. And if you saw him, was he a 552 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: neighbor or remember he was, Um, we were outside his house, 553 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, we were out. We were outside of his house. Yeah, 554 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't remember exactly the whole 555 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: all the details now, but but he he did not 556 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: get invited, so it caused him to be resentful, resentful. 557 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: And he also may have seen Dan yelle uh somehow 558 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: he knew the family and it in other words, well 559 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: he you know, because he was attracted to young girls. Obviously, 560 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: Um that if he saw a young girl whom he liked, 561 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: then that girl is automatically in danger. And but what 562 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: the larger point is is that if you've got a 563 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: house party and it's going on regularly a couple of 564 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: times a week, and just about anybody in town or 565 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: anybody in town could bring a friend and wander in 566 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: and you're not going to notice. I remember one time 567 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: my wife and I accidentally crashed a Christmas party. We 568 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: went to the wrong address. It was in a neighborhood 569 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: where there was a lot of similar style homes and 570 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: there happened to be another Christmas party and we walked 571 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: in and we were handed a glass of wine, and 572 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: we stood in the living room and we were saying 573 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: hello to people, and after a few minutes we realized 574 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: we don't belong here. We're in the wrong house. This 575 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: is the wrong party. We just hadn't been to this 576 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: house before. And that night there wasn't a party the 577 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: night in question with me before we're murdered. They were 578 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: all out doing other things and they came home. But 579 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: the perpetrator may have been to the parties they have known. 580 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: Oh there's a lot of cute girls who live here, 581 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: so I want to murder them, though, well, because he's 582 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: we just wanted to sexually assault them. These these four 583 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: were sexually assaulted as far as we know, right, just 584 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, serial killers kill, that's what they do. 585 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: But if it's a serial killer, but if it's a 586 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: targeted attack, it could be somebody that was really frustrated 587 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: with one of the four or you know, maybe he 588 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: let's get in mind, the other two roommates were left 589 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: alone and they slapped through this two other women. Yeah, 590 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean maybe, you know, maybe hit on one of 591 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: the girls and got rejected. I think that's a key 592 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: clue that a serial killer would kill everybody in the house, 593 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: particularly since you don't take a chance with anybody witnessing 594 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: or hearing anything, right, Yeah, unless you're not familiar. You 595 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: know it was a three story house, I guess, but 596 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: still you just move around and the bedroom doors aren't locked. 597 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: Just going and kill everybody. Yeah, if you got six 598 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: six pretty girls, all of it in a house that 599 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: has a lot of parties, eventually every guy on the 600 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: campus is going to be aware of that group, because 601 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: the school's not that big. I think there is something 602 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, so that's why they use that term. 603 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: The house may have been targeted, right, because if actually 604 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: having a lot of parties after a while, you might 605 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: have hundreds of people that have wandered through there over 606 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: the course of a year or two, right, Because if 607 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: they're open parties, you just wander in, You get a beer, 608 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: and you hang out, and you strike up conversation with 609 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: whoever you're attracted to, and who's going to know who's 610 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: keeping track, and by one of the morning, everybody's blasted. 611 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: They need a breakthrough or this story is going to 612 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: go cold. And then I mean, honestly, all they're getting 613 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: back from the lab might be helpful. You run that 614 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: stuff through a database. See if it matches anybody with 615 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: a criminal record, that kind of thing, any other kind 616 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: of clues. You know, they have ruled out so many 617 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: things that people have come up with. People are trying 618 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: to link these murders to a stabbing at Oregon in 619 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I'm like, well, how would that? That's 620 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: that's the internet crowd. I know it is the internet 621 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: if you have everyone trying to connect it to a 622 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine double stabbing in Pullman, Washington. Yeah, you 623 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: go online, you go into newspaper database because two Washington 624 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: State University students were attacked by an assailant with a 625 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: knife while they slept right, But it turns out one 626 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: of the women's ex husband was convicted of carrying out 627 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the attacks. See that's remember the skin pet dog story too. Yeah, 628 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: well you see, if you're gonna if you're gonna go 629 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: into a database and look for murder stories in Idaho, 630 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna come up with something like that from twenty 631 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: four years ago, and you may not find the follow 632 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: up that said, oh they found the ex husband, he 633 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: was the killer. I didn't even know this one. Apparently 634 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: there was a red Mustang left knew the crime scene. 635 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: People picked up on that one. Police acknowledged that there 636 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: was a car that was processed, but they believe it's 637 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: not connected to the murders either. So yeah, I mean, 638 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: if it was easy stuff like that, this would have 639 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: been solved almost three weeks ago. Of course, you know 640 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: there's a car park there. You check out who the 641 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: owner is. It's pretty clear he's got nothing to do 642 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: with it. Maybe he, you know, just drank too much 643 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: and decided to leave the car there. All right, we 644 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: got more coming up. John ken kf I AM six 645 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: forty live everywhere, the iHeartRadio app and Denmark Live in 646 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: the twenty four Hour Cafe Newsroom