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Speaker 1: I think we settled on a pull question last hour. Mclovin,
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes, which older quarterback will throw the
Speaker 1: most TVs this year? We put up Breeze, Ben, Brady,
Speaker 1: and Rivers. Okay, yeah, that's a great question. I mean,
Speaker 1: what if they all end up exactly the samement, like
Speaker 1: thirty four touchdowns? Yeah, I don't even know if you'll
Speaker 1: get that many out of Breeze Ben. You could. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Ben normally averages. I mean, they're a
Speaker 1: passing team. Carolina is going to run the ball a
Speaker 1: lot with Christian McCaffrey. And even if they do throw it,
Speaker 1: Usio's dump off passes to McCaffrey out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: But oh, you're talking about the oldest quarterback. You're not
Speaker 1: talking about the NFC South. Okay, So Teddy Bridgewater's not
Speaker 1: in there, but Brady, I don't even know what his
Speaker 1: numbers are, Like, I never look at Brady's stats. I've
Speaker 1: never looked at them. You know, the year that they
Speaker 1: had Randy Moss that of course was trumpeted. They didn't
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl that year, but that was an
Speaker 1: incredible year for him. I just never looked at Brady's
Speaker 1: numbers and went wow or oh boy, that's disappointing. I
Speaker 1: usually look at touchdown to interception ratio because that's why
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston's no longer there. If Jamis Winston throws for
Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns and throws five interceptions and they go to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, are they all in on Jamis Winston? But
Speaker 1: when you throw thirty interceptions and I don't know how
Speaker 1: many fumbles he had as well, you know he's turning
Speaker 1: the ball over probably more than thirty times, thirty times
Speaker 1: more than Tom Brady did. You can't have that at
Speaker 1: that position. You can't have that disparity. Yeah, McLevin. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing a wave of excitement about Big Band now that
Speaker 1: he cut his hair. He looks like five years younger.
Speaker 1: So everybody thought, it's like, whoa, he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: big season. Okay on Twitter, but this is what I
Speaker 1: don't understand. He's basically in the same shape as he was,
Speaker 1: even though he just cut off his beard and his hair.
Speaker 1: Because when you saw him when he was throwing a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. I went, Wow, Ben, he's gonna
Speaker 1: go two ways. He's gonna be quarterback and nose tackle
Speaker 1: here for the Steelers. Wow all right? Age seven seven
Speaker 1: three DP show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com,
Speaker 1: Twitter handed a DP spent a little time in the
Speaker 1: first hour talking about Michael Jordan, the feuds that he
Speaker 1: has with teammates, friends, and Horace Grant came out. Horace
Speaker 1: Grant won three titles with the Bulls and then he
Speaker 1: went to Orlando, and Michael thought that Horace Grant was
Speaker 1: the snitch for Sam Smith's great book The Jordan Rules,
Speaker 1: and whether it's true or not, Michael even bringing it
Speaker 1: up in the documentary. Understand this, Michael Jordan's not easy
Speaker 1: to like as a person. He's easy to love as
Speaker 1: a basketball player. As a teammate, Okay, you're gonna win,
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay a little bit of a price there.
Speaker 1: But he is a brilliant basketball player, marketing, brand global,
Speaker 1: all of those things. Keep in mind. Charles Barkley speaks
Speaker 1: out about Michael or Michael as an owner. They haven't
Speaker 1: spoken since they were friends for over twenty years. Maybe
Speaker 1: twenty five years. Haven't spoken since then. Scottie Pippen did
Speaker 1: come out a couple of times and say he thinks
Speaker 1: Lebron I'm paraphrasing, will be better than Michael. When it's
Speaker 1: all said and done, there's Michael Fielding the slight there
Speaker 1: and probably not in Scottie Pippen's corner. Horace Grant, well,
Speaker 1: you're the snitch. You're gonna be the snitch. You're always
Speaker 1: gonna be the snitch, and I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 1: You're the snitch. Michael Jordan when he went into the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, didn't he call out his high school
Speaker 1: coach who cut him. He roasted everybody. This never ends,
Speaker 1: it doesn't stop. This is who Michael Jordan is, the person.
Speaker 1: But that's what helped him be Michael Jordan the basketball player.
Speaker 1: Here is Horace Grant. He was on ESPN one thousand
Speaker 1: in Chicago, Cap and Company podcast talking about just how
Speaker 1: much of the Last Dance was not true. Not a
Speaker 1: defend of it. I don't know if I could see
Speaker 1: it on he but bs in terms of the realness
Speaker 1: of it, as I stated the other day, that it
Speaker 1: wasn't real because a lot of things that he said
Speaker 1: to some of his teammates. His teammates went back at it,
Speaker 1: but all of that was kind of edited out of
Speaker 1: the documentary, if you want to call it a documentary. Now.
Speaker 1: Horace Grant has also said that Michael Jordan is a
Speaker 1: snitch because in the documentary, Jordan talks about his rookie
Speaker 1: year going to one of his teammates hotel room and
Speaker 1: he walks in and he sees women, weed and cocaine,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't He said, basically, the whole team was
Speaker 1: in there. Now I looked at the roster. Maybe you
Speaker 1: looked at the roster and ran down the names that
Speaker 1: would be a snitch because it has no context to
Speaker 1: be put into the Last Dance the documentary, even if
Speaker 1: he's asked about it, Hey, what was it like? Now, Hey,
Speaker 1: I loved it. It was salacious, it was interesting. Got
Speaker 1: a big chuckle out of Michael. But you talk about
Speaker 1: turning on your teammates that they were in their partying.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with the last year, has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the dynasty. Nothing unless you say, well,
Speaker 1: Michael realized that he had to clean out the locker
Speaker 1: room there. Okay, we all know that because they weren't
Speaker 1: any good. But I understand what Horace Grant is saying,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if Horace Grant was the snitch.
Speaker 1: Horace Grant admits that he was friends with Sam Smith,
Speaker 1: still friends with Sam Smith. Sam's not going to tell
Speaker 1: you who the snitch is or source. And I've been
Speaker 1: told that there are a couple of sources on the bowls.
Speaker 1: So if it's Horace or somebody else there too, from
Speaker 1: what I was told, I didn't get a name, but
Speaker 1: I certainly got an indication of who that person might be.
Speaker 1: Whether that's true or not, but that once again, just
Speaker 1: look at the flu game. Now that now in the
Speaker 1: food poisoning game, and how that took off. And now
Speaker 1: we got the pizza hut guy who says it wasn't five,
Speaker 1: there were two of us. Okay, wait a minute. You
Speaker 1: got eyewitnesses saying there were five that showed up there
Speaker 1: to deliver the pizza. Like, what is it trying to
Speaker 1: separate fact from fiction? Here? Is it seems like it's
Speaker 1: fruitless here? Why did you go play baseball? What's the
Speaker 1: story behind that his father was murdered? What's the story?
Speaker 1: We don't take anything at face value. It doesn't feel like.
Speaker 1: But then you have these little windows here where you
Speaker 1: look in and go, is Michael telling the truth about
Speaker 1: this like you could have. You didn't have to bring
Speaker 1: up the food poisoning. We were good with the flu.
Speaker 1: We didn't need it, and now we have food poisoning
Speaker 1: and now you have Hey, everybody get their story straight. Okay,
Speaker 1: what is it? Okay, Michael didn't get to eat. He
Speaker 1: was mad, and uh we ordered a pizza. Five guys
Speaker 1: show up and they peek in. They just want to wave,
Speaker 1: and then that's it, and Michael spits on the pizza.
Speaker 1: So nobody else gets sick. Okay, that's our story. Okay, good, good,
Speaker 1: all right. So I don't know who's disproving that, but
Speaker 1: it's just part of this and the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: Horace has a problem with Michael. Remember Horace says it's true.
Speaker 1: Michael said to the flight attendant, do not feed Horace
Speaker 1: Grant after a bad game, and Horace Grant said, that's true.
Speaker 1: But he said, make no mistake about this. I would
Speaker 1: have kicked Michael's ass back then, but you weren't allowed
Speaker 1: to back then. Horace. Horace has to be careful because
Speaker 1: he still works for the bulls, I believe. And you know,
Speaker 1: the Commissioner can't like this when you hear Horace saying,
Speaker 1: you know, like he's threatening Jordan or feels like, hey,
Speaker 1: you want to settle this, we can settle this. This
Speaker 1: isn't what the Commissioner wants out of this, certainly not
Speaker 1: these times. But Horace Grant has his side of this,
Speaker 1: and so does Jordan, and Jordan usually wins all of
Speaker 1: these arguments here. But this isn't going away because it
Speaker 1: just feels like this is open season to talk about
Speaker 1: all of this, and when we do, it's hard to
Speaker 1: separate fact from fiction because I don't know, and I
Speaker 1: feel like I have really good sources on this with
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff, and you can't get a
Speaker 1: straight answer. And as I told you guys yesterday, I
Speaker 1: was old that Jordan was staying in Park City, which
Speaker 1: people think, oh my god, he wouldn't be staying all
Speaker 1: the way out there. It takes you thirty five minutes
Speaker 1: to get to Park City. He was staying there. That's
Speaker 1: what I was told by three sources. That's where he
Speaker 1: was staying that night. I don't know what he was drinking.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was eating. I don't know
Speaker 1: what he was smoking, his cigar, whatever it is, I
Speaker 1: don't know. But it just feels like there's all of
Speaker 1: these different stories that surround Jordan. But that's always been
Speaker 1: the case, but people never talked about this. That's what
Speaker 1: should be emphasized. People were afraid to talk about this.
Speaker 1: Now it feels like with the documentary, Hey, everybody's got
Speaker 1: a story, I'll tell you mine. Yeah. Set, According to
Speaker 1: my sources, I was just told that in the mid
Speaker 1: to late nineties, Horace Grant actually owned a chain of
Speaker 1: pizza stores and pizza shops in the Greater Salt Lake area.
Speaker 1: I don't know if or not, but that's what my
Speaker 1: source has just told me. Full circle. Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go with that. Celebrity journalist flow At, who claims to
Speaker 1: have spoken to a source with knowledge from someone close
Speaker 1: to Woods, says Tiger is struggling. My source may have
Speaker 1: been someone in chat Row. But that's ok. That's great.
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me who your snitches. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You don't have to tell me, he asked
Speaker 1: me club. I heard that the guys who delivered were
Speaker 1: both six and nine, and both looked like brothers. And
Speaker 1: their names are Harvest and Horror. Harvey and Horrace. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's coincidence. Full uniform too far, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you could have worked on the delivery too. Nobody
Speaker 1: talks about Harvey Grant byway. I just want to bring
Speaker 1: that up. Why wouldn't we talk about Harvey Grant? He
Speaker 1: played better. Remember, off the top of your head, they
Speaker 1: were about the same. I mean, Horace was a good
Speaker 1: player and he'd give you twelve and eight. You're a
Speaker 1: good defensive player. Harvey might have been a better score.
Speaker 1: But Harvey played for the Bullets. Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Harvey
Speaker 1: Grant had a run where he averaged about eighteen for
Speaker 1: three years straight with the Bullets. Nobody's breaking down Harvey Grant. No,
Speaker 1: nobody is today. Nobody. I mentioned Jamis Winch with all
Speaker 1: of his turnovers. He had thirty interceptions, five lost fumbles,
Speaker 1: and Brady had eight interceptions one lost fumble. So you've
Speaker 1: got pretty sizable difference there on the number of turnovers.
Speaker 1: Nobody had more than twenty three turnovers total turnovers last
Speaker 1: year other than Jamis Winston at thirty five. So that's
Speaker 1: why Tom Brady is there. If Jameis Winston throws for
Speaker 1: thirty and has eight interceptions, he's probably still back in Tampa.
Speaker 1: Photos leak yesterday Brady leading a workout with his new
Speaker 1: Buccaneer teammates at a high school in Tampa. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if the NFL has any problems with this,
Speaker 1: as long as they're following the safety guidelines. Florida's open
Speaker 1: for business. But it feels like there's a problem with
Speaker 1: Patriot fans. Believe it or not, Patriot fans seeing Brady
Speaker 1: in an Orange jersey made it real because you go, Okay,
Speaker 1: Tom's not here, and then you see Tom in a
Speaker 1: Buccaneers uniform and you're like, what, how did this happen?
Speaker 1: And there he is throwing to Oj Howard and Mike
Speaker 1: Evans and Brad So this is real. The NFL season
Speaker 1: is a long way away, but based on the leaked photos,
Speaker 1: Brady is serious about getting to work and turning this
Speaker 1: around because it's been a long time since my Buccaneers
Speaker 1: have been in the playoffs. Now Here is something that
Speaker 1: I found interesting. There is a narrative forming in New
Speaker 1: England that Brady checked out on the Patriots the last
Speaker 1: couple of years seeing him work out with the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: may have fired up New England fans. Here's something from
Speaker 1: weei dot COM's Ryan Hannibal. He writes, although some examples
Speaker 1: were not as big as others, tom Brady changed in
Speaker 1: his final few years as a member of the Patriots.
Speaker 1: The biggest example was the lack of commitment to his
Speaker 1: teammates during the offseason. As for his final two seasons,
Speaker 1: he did not attend OTAs during the spring and only
Speaker 1: attended the three days of mandatory mini camp. Here it is, Oh, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, Seeton, what do you want to say about
Speaker 1: your Patriot fans there? My Patriots fans are the reporters.
Speaker 1: Oh well, the same dumb it story I've ever heard
Speaker 1: in my entire life. He checked out the last couple
Speaker 1: of years. They were in the Super Bowl four of
Speaker 1: his last five years. You know, the year that he
Speaker 1: checked out after the Steelers game they won the Super
Speaker 1: bowled out on the team. Imagine if he really cared,
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl wouldn't have been that close. Yeah yeah. Mclovin.
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan always attended saying he Jordan went to the
Speaker 1: Patriots OTAs. That's how dedicated he was. Now he But
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing with Brady is he did
Speaker 1: say that he needed to when he did this interview
Speaker 1: with Howard Stern. What was one of the headlines, Hey,
Speaker 1: I needed to spend time on my marriage, my wife.
Speaker 1: They've said to me, Hey, what about us? The season's over,
Speaker 1: what about us? And Brady was honest about that to
Speaker 1: say I needed to stay at home to be a
Speaker 1: father and a husband. If that's checking out on your team, man,
Speaker 1: those are pretty pretty high bardage set there. Yeah. See
Speaker 1: the funny thing about stories like this is that in
Speaker 1: like five years or however long you're you talking about,
Speaker 1: like Brady as a Hall of Famer. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm mary checked out those last couple of years, you know,
Speaker 1: like that stuff sticks in people's heads and the like.
Speaker 1: I don't know it. Was he a good patriot? I
Speaker 1: don't know he checked out those last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Don't forget about that. May May my quarterback, had the
Speaker 1: dedication to Tom Brady. Let's put it that way. I
Speaker 1: don't know many who would have more dedication because it
Speaker 1: feels like that's all Brady thinks of is football, working
Speaker 1: out in his backyard with his helmet on, you know,
Speaker 1: getting Gronk to come out of retirement. But oh and
Speaker 1: try to get Grunk to come out of retirement as
Speaker 1: Patrick like, man, they're gone. They've moved on from Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: Jared said, n't better be pretty good? He better be
Speaker 1: pretty good. Here. I had a couple of phone calls
Speaker 1: in here, Craig and Pennsylvania's back. Hi, Craig, when you
Speaker 1: have for me a good budd what do you have
Speaker 1: for me good? I'm just wondering. You're talking about Jordan
Speaker 1: a lot. And you know, obviously him as a player
Speaker 1: was amazing. I grew up watching him and it's awesome
Speaker 1: seeing the blast dance and stuff like that. But how
Speaker 1: come he can't bring the competitiveness that he was as
Speaker 1: a player to the fun office with Charlotte. I brought
Speaker 1: that up. I brought that up on Monday. But he
Speaker 1: can't control it. You know, he can make draft picks.
Speaker 1: But my thought was he hasn't been able to sign
Speaker 1: free agents. That to me is the surprising part of
Speaker 1: all of this. They made a run at Gordon Hayward,
Speaker 1: they lost out. You know, he stayed in Utah back then.
Speaker 1: Other than that, they don't sign free agents. You would
Speaker 1: think Jordan as your owner, you'd want to play with Jordan, right,
Speaker 1: That is not the case. And maybe you say, well,
Speaker 1: Charlotte's not a big market, Okay, I get it. Still
Speaker 1: pretty good sized town. You know, you got major sports
Speaker 1: there aside from the basketball team, but you don't have
Speaker 1: free agents who want to go play. And you know,
Speaker 1: Michael has not done well in drafting if you look
Speaker 1: at some of his and you could look at what
Speaker 1: they've done when he was with Washington. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're drafting Kwame Brown, that's a bust dog. Adam Morrison,
Speaker 1: that's a bust dog. Who's our guy from Wisconsinminski bust
Speaker 1: He's give me seven to five. He's not even on
Speaker 1: there anymore. Whatever, Yeah, mo Leak Monk, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Mclovin keeps waiting for Malik Monk to be good. Michael
Speaker 1: kid Gilchrist, he had he had a he had a
Speaker 1: cameo there of playing well. Probably best draft pick onto
Speaker 1: the Jordan era and Charlotte is Kemba Walker, great pick
Speaker 1: and that he's not there anymore. But yeah, look, Michael
Speaker 1: as a player, you know you can't there's nothing you
Speaker 1: say negative about Michael as a player, he did what
Speaker 1: you wanted him to do. And Michael the person is
Speaker 1: really what's on trial here with a lot of these
Speaker 1: members of the media or former teammates. That's what's that's
Speaker 1: what's on trial right now. And him as an owner,
Speaker 1: that's just that's for Charles Barkley and him to figure
Speaker 1: it out one day maybe if they ever do. But
Speaker 1: if Mike has a grudge, he holds the grudge, he
Speaker 1: squeezes the grudge, he puts a tourniquet on the grudge.
Speaker 1: It's not going away your Hall of Fame speech, and
Speaker 1: you're calling out Hall of famers in the audience Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame speech. You mentioned the coach who you know
Speaker 1: cut you in high school. He didn't let go of anything.
Speaker 1: And then the fact that he invents things. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe he invented. Horace Grant is the snitch for the
Speaker 1: Jordan rules when Horace went to Orlando. You can't put
Speaker 1: it past him. Poor le Bradford Smith didn't do anything
Speaker 1: and he created something out of nothing. So you can't
Speaker 1: say it, well, Mike wouldn't do that, because he would
Speaker 1: because he did Aaron in Tennessee. Then we'll take a
Speaker 1: break there, Aaron, good morning. What do you have for me? Hey? Dan,
Speaker 1: I was just listening to you talk about Kareem and
Speaker 1: I was really excited because I make that argument all
Speaker 1: the time to my oldest son and his friends that
Speaker 1: you know, it really shouldn't be a Lebron Jordan conversation,
Speaker 1: if anything, it should be a Kareem Jordan conversation, because
Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned, you know, Kareem has had
Speaker 1: an illustrious career. As far as the caller saying that
Speaker 1: he didn't face anybody. If you were to have a
Speaker 1: list of who were the top ten centers of all time,
Speaker 1: Kareem faced almost all of them, whether they were in
Speaker 1: their prime or he was in his crime throughout his career,
Speaker 1: with the exception of say Shack and I don't know
Speaker 1: George Miken or somebody from before. Then, you know, he
Speaker 1: faced all those guys. And he's got as many MVPs
Speaker 1: as Jordan, he's got as many rings, he's he's obviously
Speaker 1: the all time scorer, and he's in the top two
Speaker 1: or three in rebounds and blocks all time. So you know,
Speaker 1: his accolades are as good, if not better than the
Speaker 1: two that are always in the conversation. Thank you, Aaron,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't fit in with what we want with
Speaker 1: our superstar. Now, you gotta you gotta be something. You
Speaker 1: gotta be a celebrity. You know Cream's wasn't you know?
Speaker 1: Cream was reticent, didn't like talking to the media, didn't
Speaker 1: trust the media, maybe shy. In fact, when we had
Speaker 1: him in studio a couple of years ago, like he
Speaker 1: came in and you could tell that he he just
Speaker 1: was distant, and then he sat down, we started talking
Speaker 1: baseball and Jackie Robinson and then he warmed up there.
Speaker 1: And I just don't forget about the players from yesteryear.
Speaker 1: That's all this is about. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: You know Lebron, Oh, nobody's better than Lebron. And then
Speaker 1: you see Michael and you go, oh, okay. It took
Speaker 1: me a while to say Lebron was better than Larry Bird,
Speaker 1: but only because Larry at thirty one was just as
Speaker 1: good as Lebron, if not better. At the same age.
Speaker 1: Lebron has blown away and separated from Larry Bird because
Speaker 1: of how well he's taking care of himself and he's
Speaker 1: still dominating force. And here he is leading the league
Speaker 1: in assist so it's just trying to look at who's great,
Speaker 1: how great they are, and you do comparisons, and that's
Speaker 1: always dangerous there. But I just like to mention some
Speaker 1: of these players that they were great in their era.
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't match up numbers wise, or size wise
Speaker 1: or speed wise, but they were great in their own right.
Speaker 1: Twenty two after the hour, we check in on the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Right after this. Thanks for listening to
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Speaker 1: app by searching f R. I was wondering how that
Speaker 1: story got out that Brady was going to hold this
Speaker 1: workout at a local high school, and I said to Paulie,
Speaker 1: Horace Grant's probably going to get blamed for this. All
Speaker 1: else fails you. From now on, anything goes wrong, we
Speaker 1: just blame Horace Grant. I think that's the way to
Speaker 1: go about it. More phone calls coming up, update the
Speaker 1: poll results. He's Rick Stroud, the Buccaneers reporter for the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Times columnists who joins us on the program.
Speaker 1: Was that an official workout yesterday? Rick by the Buccaneers. Now,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't official, Dan, you know the backstory that is
Speaker 1: that it was an operation Shoist Joe Jackson, as you know,
Speaker 1: is what we called it. And I met by reporter photographer.
Speaker 1: We put on the black jumpsuits and ski masks, you know,
Speaker 1: and then out of the Paul Meadows King Tom Brady. No,
Speaker 1: it was just a good old fashioned stakeout. I mean
Speaker 1: it had been out there for a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: that they were working out at the local high school.
Speaker 1: It was just hard to get advantage pointing, so we
Speaker 1: knew when it was happening, and good for us we
Speaker 1: got the pictures. Is it legal? I mean you're open.
Speaker 1: Florida's open for business, so this isn't an issue. Is
Speaker 1: this an issue with the NFL? It doesn't seem to be,
Speaker 1: at least yesterday. I mean, here's the key, right. The
Speaker 1: state opened a little while ago, but if you listen
Speaker 1: to I've known about it since before Mother's Day. And
Speaker 1: cam Bright, who was interviewed by Alex Klorin on his
Speaker 1: dock one day lightning Forward said that he had been
Speaker 1: working out with Brady for a couple of weeks, I
Speaker 1: mean virtually, So who's just you know how long this
Speaker 1: has gone on. But I can document one day and
Speaker 1: as far as that goes, the state was open, so
Speaker 1: they're good with it. What's the reaction to Brady working out? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think people are surprised, but you know,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen the guy other than you know, reading
Speaker 1: stories about him going in parks and getting kicked out
Speaker 1: and walking into people's houses. So the first time we've
Speaker 1: actually seen him wearing a buccaneer's helmet, the old cream
Speaker 1: signal non contact jersey and and out there throwing the
Speaker 1: real Buccaneers players. So I think people expected this, and
Speaker 1: you know, watching him work, you can see just how
Speaker 1: how precise he is, you know, walking guys through routes,
Speaker 1: tell him exactly where he wants him to be. And
Speaker 1: it was a pretty well organized practice for about two hours.
Speaker 1: No Gronk sighting yet not in practice anyway, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, you know, Gronk was in Florida. I think
Speaker 1: he's his mom lives in Ford Myers. But who's to
Speaker 1: say he could have been out there other days? This
Speaker 1: is not the first day, so we've not run across
Speaker 1: him just yet. If I would have told you a
Speaker 1: year ago you're going to be staking out of high
Speaker 1: school Rick and Tom Brady is going to be coming
Speaker 1: out in a buccaneer helmet, you would have said what
Speaker 1: I have said, I'm done that. You know, they got
Speaker 1: rid of me because I was hallucinating. I mean, this
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen, Dan, we can't have nice things. And
Speaker 1: yet there he was right, and so people about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a franchise that hasn't won. They've
Speaker 1: gotten the playoffs in twelve years, three eighty seven winning percentage.
Speaker 1: And yet he's going to try to do something that's hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna try to do something that Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning did in Denver. It's not easy, and he's got
Speaker 1: to learn a bunch of new teammates and a new offense.
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't get two ahead of ourselves because in
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints are pretty good in this division. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to handicap this. And of course we've
Speaker 1: talked and I said I'm all in on the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: I was all in on them. If Teddy Bridgewater went there.
Speaker 1: I thought they were going to be a playoff team.
Speaker 1: We know Brady can handle the pressure. I want to
Speaker 1: know about the other players on the team, because now
Speaker 1: you're expected to do something, not we hope you do something,
Speaker 1: we're expecting you. How different is that going to be
Speaker 1: for this young team. Yeah, I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really different. I mean, you know, I have an iconic quarterback.
Speaker 1: There's just not many of these guys around, right, and
Speaker 1: so the standard of changes. Right, if these guys were
Speaker 1: going to get up and go to the beach with
Speaker 1: their girlfriends instead of working out, well, now they're not
Speaker 1: going to do that. I mean they found out just
Speaker 1: in the walkthroughs that he's had with them in the
Speaker 1: practices that it's a different level. And you're on national
Speaker 1: TV five times that's happened here never and so you know,
Speaker 1: I think that that gets your attention as well. So
Speaker 1: they do have a good nucleus of football players. You know,
Speaker 1: this was a team that was seven and seven at
Speaker 1: one point in quarterback. We know through a lot of
Speaker 1: games away the defense got better, So they should have
Speaker 1: high expectations. They got the greatest quarterback of all time.
Speaker 1: If Jamis Winston throws thirty touchdowns and he throws eight interceptions.
Speaker 1: Who's the quarterback for the Buccaneers they show? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's Jamis Winston. I mean, I think you'd still,
Speaker 1: you know, consider Brady and Philip Rivers and all those guys.
Speaker 1: But at that point, that's what you hope for when
Speaker 1: you signed him, right he was number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: They would have been in the playoffs number one, and
Speaker 1: may have won a couple of playoff games. So I
Speaker 1: don't think we're having that conversation. He's certainly not in
Speaker 1: New Orleans right now playing for a million dollars. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that I'll leave you with this rick
Speaker 1: these if this season doesn't start on time, they're talking
Speaker 1: about maybe those first four weeks now go to the
Speaker 1: back end of the schedule. I'm just curious about the
Speaker 1: availability of the Super Bowl hotel rooms and all of
Speaker 1: that at that time, like at the end of February
Speaker 1: early March. Is that going to be any issue there
Speaker 1: in Tampa hosting the Super Bowl? Well, it could be.
Speaker 1: I talked to Rob Higgins, who's ahead of the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Committee, and they're focused on the February seventh day
Speaker 1: but look, they've got alternative dates. The problem is you
Speaker 1: can't go to those hotels right now and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, keep this weekend open and that weekend open.
Speaker 1: If they have to move the schedule back, they'll deal
Speaker 1: with it then. But I'm sure that they've got a
Speaker 1: lot of partners here with hotels and restaurants that'll they'll
Speaker 1: do everything they can and make those rooms available, and
Speaker 1: you know, they'll find a way to keep people, keep
Speaker 1: people fed and house I'm sure, are you going back
Speaker 1: to practice again with Brady or is that just a
Speaker 1: one and done well? From what I hear from the Bucks,
Speaker 1: it's it's a one and going someplace the next locale
Speaker 1: as soon as we get the shust Joe Jackson source
Speaker 1: that tells us where it's at. But yeah, they weren't
Speaker 1: too happy with that whole thing, but it was legal.
Speaker 1: He was arresting, all right, Thank you. Rick. That's Rick
Speaker 1: Stround covers the Buccaneers for the Tampa eight Times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was wondering about that. All of a sudden, Brady
Speaker 1: runs out, trots out, and you start to see some
Speaker 1: people and probably like you gotta be kidding, This would
Speaker 1: never happen if I was with the Patriots here. I
Speaker 1: want to know when Gronk shows up. When Gronk shows up,
Speaker 1: then it's official. There. Yeah, Paul and the reporters, they
Speaker 1: were really in the shrubs, like if you saw I
Speaker 1: saw a shot from one of the local papers and
Speaker 1: there's like a bunch of bushes and shrubs, and there's
Speaker 1: where they could go. They couldn't go onto the property,
Speaker 1: so they were in this like adjacent parking lot and
Speaker 1: they're tiptoeing over shrubs to get pictures of Brady and
Speaker 1: his crew. And can you imagine being like a reporter
Speaker 1: and that's what you're doing now. It's fascinating media coverage
Speaker 1: to the Buccaneers Bush League question Mark, Sorry, Todd, it
Speaker 1: was workable. I'm surprised that the coach that's been up
Speaker 1: for thirteen years at that prep school, at least he
Speaker 1: said he had no idea that this pract How could
Speaker 1: he not know? I got it's been there almost a
Speaker 1: decade and a half. Not know that Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: company was going to be on his field? I'm good.
Speaker 1: I guess it's a musclic situation where you go, I
Speaker 1: don't I didn't know anything. One Tom Brady was out
Speaker 1: the athletic director. I just love out of you know,
Speaker 1: New England that the media already starting to turn this
Speaker 1: a little bit. Tom not dedicated, man, I don't know
Speaker 1: how much dedication you need where this dude is all in.
Speaker 1: And you go to Super Bowls? What for their last
Speaker 1: five years? And all of a sudden he's starting to
Speaker 1: slack off a little bit. Here he's four their last
Speaker 1: six six? I bet am I bad four the last
Speaker 1: Oh okay, then he did slack off a little bit
Speaker 1: Seaton for the last art, not the last two. But
Speaker 1: oh Nick and Arizona? Hey Nick, what do you have
Speaker 1: for him today? Hey? DP six ft two? Hey? So
Speaker 1: you guys. Earlier we're talking about Ryan Fitzpatrick and it
Speaker 1: had me laughing and thinking, who was the greatest backup
Speaker 1: quarterback of all time? And what even is the criteria
Speaker 1: for that? Oh gosh, I don't I don't know what
Speaker 1: the criteria would be. Frank Reich had the probably the greatest,
Speaker 1: went home. Nick Foles won the Super Bowl? So does
Speaker 1: that make him? Is Nick mclovin there you want to
Speaker 1: talk Arry super Bowy MVP? Is that? I think you
Speaker 1: have to wait? What they are? Either backups like a
Speaker 1: Don Struck or somebody. Did they ever win the big
Speaker 1: game back in the day, No, they'd ever won, well,
Speaker 1: didn't Earl Morrel? Yes, I think with the Dolphins. I think.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was the It might have been
Speaker 1: the Colts, but I think Earl Morrel did the same thing.
Speaker 1: Wasn't there Bob Greasy Earl Morel something like that? Yes,
Speaker 1: And to be fair, that Eagles team be a Patriots
Speaker 1: team with they checked out Tom Brady, so they weren't
Speaker 1: even really trying in that game. He didn't do much
Speaker 1: in that game, did he? I mean, how many fifty?
Speaker 1: I think he? I think he only threw for five
Speaker 1: hundred yards. They did had a drop, They didn't punt.
Speaker 1: I don't think they punted. Yeah, at least a practice
Speaker 1: hard would have caught that. That was How did they
Speaker 1: lose that game? Every unathletic white guy was going to
Speaker 1: catch the tom Tom. Come on, how did they lose
Speaker 1: that damn game? I know, I know Um Belichick, defensive
Speaker 1: minded coach, couldn't stomp him. YEA McLeman, I'd say, I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm deeping ahead. But obviously one of the best
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks in histories in Dallas right now, Oh Andrew,
Speaker 1: what are his odds? Drum? What are his odds to
Speaker 1: win the MVP this year? If Jamis Winston's odds are
Speaker 1: the same? Is Christian McCaffrey. What's Andy Dalton's odds of
Speaker 1: winning the MVP? Because I'd like to know. Pablo and
Speaker 1: Colorado joins us. Say Pablo, Say Dan, Pablo Colorado six
Speaker 1: two and two thirty. Hey, DP, got a special request.
Speaker 1: My daughter's name is Jessica Camandoza and she just graduated
Speaker 1: from Colo State University in sports broadcasting, and as you
Speaker 1: can imagine, it's a really interesting time to be coming
Speaker 1: out of college and looking for work in this field.
Speaker 1: And I just would love for you to give her
Speaker 1: a word of encourage you with here, dude, is she there?
Speaker 1: She's not. I'm going to send her the podcast, my friend,
Speaker 1: unless you have a better idea. All right, well, I'll
Speaker 1: see if I can come up with something. But congratulations
Speaker 1: to you too as well. Pablo. Jessica, get ready for
Speaker 1: a long haul and get ready to hear the word no.
Speaker 1: But if you really want to do then you'll persevere
Speaker 1: because there's so many people who want to do this
Speaker 1: and there is no direct route into this business. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of opportunities, but there's no direct you know,
Speaker 1: if you do this, then you get a job. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't work that way. And just because you have
Speaker 1: that degree, that doesn't mean that that puts you higher
Speaker 1: up on the priority list. It's what you do as
Speaker 1: an intern, volunteer for everything, anything, get your foot in
Speaker 1: the door. Once you're in the door. And the reason
Speaker 1: why I say this is just take what I have here.
Speaker 1: We have about twelve employees I think here, and that's
Speaker 1: everybody technical people. You know. The director we have Dylan
Speaker 1: was getting us breakfast a couple of months ago, and
Speaker 1: that's what he would do. That was one of his
Speaker 1: main jobs is just getting breakfast. He was in the door.
Speaker 1: And now he is working with the big german and
Speaker 1: he does graphics for the you know, the telecast on YouTube.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to get breakfast anymore. Tyler, the moderator
Speaker 1: wasn't you know. He was doing things odd jobs behind
Speaker 1: the scenes. Now he moderates chat row. So we have
Speaker 1: you have to be in the building to hear about
Speaker 1: these things or people get to see your personality, your
Speaker 1: work ethic. That's really important nowadays. But volunteer. Don't have
Speaker 1: your hand out saying I want to get paid. We
Speaker 1: have an intern, Rob. Rob has learned everything from shooting,
Speaker 1: using the camera, sound, even being a director. If we
Speaker 1: need him, and he just volunteered. That's what you need
Speaker 1: to do because this business is so competitive and you
Speaker 1: have to do something that separates you from everybody else
Speaker 1: or as many people. It's a process of elimination. You're
Speaker 1: all here, and then what do you do that separates
Speaker 1: you from these people and then separates you from those
Speaker 1: that next level. Those are the things The guys that
Speaker 1: I have here, you know, seton when he started out
Speaker 1: and where he is now a big difference. You. Mclovin
Speaker 1: just came up. He was blogging about the show and
Speaker 1: then he became an on air talent. If you make
Speaker 1: yourself irreplaceable, that's the important part, or somebody says I
Speaker 1: gotta have you on the staff. Those are the really
Speaker 1: important things. And you're going to get down in the dumps,
Speaker 1: but don't allow yourself to get down in the dumps.
Speaker 1: Just to understand, we all heard the word no, or
Speaker 1: you're not good enough, or you need more experience. Keep
Speaker 1: in mind, also my boss at ESPN said I'm just
Speaker 1: bleeping talent and didn't say the word bleeping, said something else.
Speaker 1: So this is at the peak of my popularity at
Speaker 1: ESPN and Sports Center, and I was told you're just
Speaker 1: bleeping talent. I was told by one of my bosses
Speaker 1: at ESPN, another one who said, you won't get another
Speaker 1: job if you leave ESPN. It's during con track talks.
Speaker 1: If you leave, you won't get another job. These are
Speaker 1: my bosses who say this, And this is where I'd
Speaker 1: already been successful. So you're gonna need pep talks and
Speaker 1: you're gonna need people around you who can understand this
Speaker 1: and tell you that because don't give up if you
Speaker 1: really want to do this, because that'll separate you from
Speaker 1: a lot of other people. All Right, Well, take a break,
Speaker 1: more phone calls coming up. We'll check in with UCLA
Speaker 1: head coach Chip Kelly in the final hour of the show.
Speaker 1: Back after this. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick
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Speaker 1: couple of phone calls in here. Mcclevin, update the poll results.
Speaker 1: Please which older quarterback we'll have the most touchdownds this season.
Speaker 1: It's a blowout. Drew Brees is killing Brady, Benn and Rivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know how many did Brees throw for
Speaker 1: last year. I saw twenty seven, but he was out
Speaker 1: for a little while. Okay, on this trad he missed
Speaker 1: five games. He's had a huge touchdown guy, though he's
Speaker 1: more of a yards guy in the last This is
Speaker 1: probably what four years, five years, Brady averages just under
Speaker 1: two touchdowns per game, Brees just over two touchdowns, Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: one point nine, and Rivers one point eight. So you'd
Speaker 1: expect Drew Brees having Michael Thomas there that. But Brady's
Speaker 1: got some weapons. You know, you got two good tight
Speaker 1: ends and you got two good wide receivers. When's the
Speaker 1: last time Brady threw for more than thirty touchdowns? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Poll the past six years, Brady's averaged about thirty touchdowns
Speaker 1: and eight picks. That's pretty much average for him. Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is fascinating because twenty fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen he
Speaker 1: led the league in yardage, then his yardage went down.
Speaker 1: In the past three years, he's led the league in
Speaker 1: completion percentage and his interceptions are way down. What's the
Speaker 1: I team working on here? I sent around a picture
Speaker 1: from from last segment. Oh you did okay? Do you
Speaker 1: want to help me out with this? There was some
Speaker 1: spotted in the background of one of our shots, one
Speaker 1: of our zoom shots at home. If you look at
Speaker 1: the red circle on the top four mcloven's apartment, yeah, mclovin.
Speaker 1: So PAULI said, hey, I just saw one of your
Speaker 1: kids come down and I ran up. I thought they
Speaker 1: needed something in the break and they're like, we didn't
Speaker 1: come down. They were sitting comfortably in their beds. And
Speaker 1: my wife sits by the samer She's like, no, nobody
Speaker 1: came down during the show. So this is freaking me
Speaker 1: out big time. Wait. Wait, I think there's a ghost
Speaker 1: in my apartment because it feels like that movie Three
Speaker 1: Men and a Baby when they spot the ghost. That's
Speaker 1: what Paul's photo looks like. I saw a child sneak
Speaker 1: down live behind mclove and then I asked them the
Speaker 1: brows and back to get a screen cap. Of it,
Speaker 1: but they're denying it. The kids are deniers. Is there
Speaker 1: a child in the photo? It looks like it, but
Speaker 1: they could There's no way they could have come down.
Speaker 1: I looked there like there their little virtual classroom. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Is my house haunted? Is the question? Maybe
Speaker 1: your kids aren't telling you the truth here. That's possible too.
Speaker 1: Earl Morrell never won a Super Bowl as a starter.
Speaker 1: He did start Super Bowl three for the Colts they
Speaker 1: launch to the Jets. Started most of the nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: two season for Miami. Bob Greasy came in at halftime
Speaker 1: of the AFC Championship Game. Greasy was the quarterback in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that year when they went undefeated. He
Speaker 1: threw eleven passes in that Super Bowl. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's the fewest passes thrown by a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the modern era in a Super Bowl. Y asked mcleovin.
Speaker 1: Does Tom Brady count as a backup then in a
Speaker 1: way early on? But when he came in for Bledsoe
Speaker 1: that year, that was kind of a back Yeah. But
Speaker 1: it's a little different though, right Kurt Warner was back.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's the greatest backup quarterback of all time. Yeah, seton.
Speaker 1: Somebody sent in. I don't know if you said this already,
Speaker 1: but Jeff Hostetler, you know he came in for us
Speaker 1: Phil Simms, Yeah, oh no, okay, Well I brought up
Speaker 1: mock headlines yesterday, and Todd has mock headlines. What is
Speaker 1: the topic for mock headlines? The topic is Brady quitting
Speaker 1: on the Patriots question mark m hmm. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know how many people feel this way. I'm just going
Speaker 1: by what was said on Wei dot com where they
Speaker 1: had somebody who said Ryan Hannibal I believe his name
Speaker 1: is said that the lack of commitment to his teammates
Speaker 1: during the offseason for his final two seasons, Brady didn't
Speaker 1: attend OTAs and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, okay, TB,
Speaker 1: what the hell? Tom My first thought, what the twelve?
Speaker 1: Just sell out? Just sell out? Brady cheats on whole team? WHOA? WHOA?
Speaker 1: Really upset about the what the twelve? Back to the
Speaker 1: Jordan board bunge bleep instead of bunge in, it's sponge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got it. Give me two of them that you
Speaker 1: think are decent. Here Okay, the Brady hunch. Some say
Speaker 1: Brady departed years ago. Okay, Tom Shell, Brady quit on
Speaker 1: team im Shell. Tom shall give me the last one
Speaker 1: buy or Zell you believe by chips earlier? All right,
Speaker 1: that's good, all right, that's fine. What the fox barrow?
Speaker 1: No buddy, whoa buddy? Fritzy is back after all those rings?
Speaker 1: Brady stops answering. What the bella? Heck, bella checked out,
Speaker 1: checked out the alright, now we're getting all right, Todd
Speaker 1: is back. Not better than that? A bit back. Dave
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, Hey Dave, what do you have for me? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: Danett's best part of the Last Dance, I thought was
Speaker 1: the video of Scottie Pippen in the locker room in
Speaker 1: game six of ninety eight. But serious question. As an actor,
Speaker 1: maybe you can settle the debate between Lebron and Michael
Speaker 1: and Kareem based on their acting abilities. All right, I
Speaker 1: thought Lebron was really good with train Wreck and Amy Schumer.
Speaker 1: I thought that was that was one of those roles
Speaker 1: where you went wow. I didn't expect that. Kareem and
Speaker 1: Airplane brilliantly played, So I would probably rank Lebron Kareem
Speaker 1: Michael as far as acting goes. Final hour coming up.
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly, UCLA Bruin's head coach, will join us. More
Speaker 1: of your phone calls Dan and The Dane's Dan Patrick