1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: The cheerleaders at a gym in Buffalo have been recording 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: themselves to make a new documentary where the news reporters 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: because one year ago a mass shooting changed their lives. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: He just walked around shot all the black people. The 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: cheer squad, most of whom are black, had to figure 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: out how to go on and how to compete. I 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: wanted to win for them more than anything this season. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: Listen to the embedded podcast from NPR within the iHeartRadio app, 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carol Fisher and 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm hosting a podcast called The Girlfriends. It's Las Vegas, 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: it's the nineteen nineties, and it is time to find 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: a husband. There were four Jewish doctors who were felt 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: to be eligible bachelors. One of them was of the 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: Baron bat On paper, he was perfect, but in reality, 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: this guy's a wacko. He shouted to the point went unconscious. 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: I would call him and I would say, I know 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: you killed my sister. You can listen to The Girlfriends 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: your podcasts. On the Best Podcast Ever with Raven and Miranda, 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: join Raven, Simone and her partner Miranda may Day as 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: they and celebrity guests like Demi Levado and Megan Trainer 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: engage in unusual conversations. Every episode will spin a wheel 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: of random words, from things like animosity to something like 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: zodiac and whatever it lands on, that's what we're going 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: to talk about for around an hour. Think we can 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: do it, well, then you've never heard us talk. Listen 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: to the best podcast ever with Raven and Miranda on 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: and welcome to Bad Manners. This is the podcast that 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: takes you inside Britain's stately homes and tells all the 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: tales the guy books don't. My name is Tom Horton 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: and I'll be your host where I'm on a mission 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: to find out the frightening, filthy and downright jaw dropping 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: stories of these stately homes and the people in there. 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Listened to Bad Manners on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Piked 37 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: and Massacre, a production of iHeartRadio and Katie Studios. There 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: were always these rumors about Michael Moran and the women 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: that he was around and the circles he ran in. 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: This guy trafficking women all over the country from this 41 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: little town. It's known as the epicenter of the opioid epidemic. 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: It was public knowledge that was the crazy thing. Everybody 43 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: knew the rumors and had known somebody that knew somebody 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: that had worked for him. She left papers and it 45 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: said Michael Moran's name, his cell phone number. I had 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: all this information that really impacted our area, and so 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: this could have brought a lot of closure to these 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: families who were being told nothing by our local officials, 49 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: in our local enforcehood. This is the piked and massacre. 50 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: Returned to Pike Season two, Episode seven, twenty five Miles South. 51 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: I'm Courtney Armstrong, a television producer at Katie Studios with 52 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: Stephanie Lydecker and Jeff Shane. In episode five of this season, 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: we explored the allegations of corruption and the subsequent arrest 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: of Pike County Share of Charlie Reader. But his story 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: is just one of many that has illuminated alleged abuses 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: of power perpetrated by those involved in Southern Ohio's criminal 57 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: justice system. So in this episode, we want to focus 58 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: on another case that has long affected a community just 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: twenty five miles south of Piketon, in a town called Portsmouth, Ohio. 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,559 Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, a reporter named Nicki Blankenship began investigating 61 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: rumors of human trafficking in the town. Like many small 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: Ohio towns, Portsmouth has a long, rich history of industrial might, 63 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: preceding an era of rapid urban decay. Here's James Pilcher, 64 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: a reporter for Local twelve News and Cincinnati, speaking with 65 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: our producer Chris Graves. Portsmouth is the county seat of 66 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: Theodore County, which fit's right below Pike County, so it's 67 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: about thirty to forty five minutes south of Pike. Then 68 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Portsmouth has this you know, rust belt, burned out industrial field. 69 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: There are half empty, two empty factories in the middle 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: of the city. At one point US Shoe had their 71 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: biggest plant there, and then obviously, you know the global 72 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: economy and we all know what happened to manufacturing in 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: the Midwest. It still has a small profitable steel mill downtown, 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: but it's barely hanging on. So it's kind of like 75 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: a city that was forgotten. Yes when the manufacturing industry 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: began to disappear. Portsmouth was besieged by the drug trade. 77 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: Nicky Blanketship grew up in the area and saw the 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: devastation firsthand. Your area has been really hit by the 79 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: opiate crisis, right, Yeah, we call ourselves ground zero for 80 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: the opiate ever make I've lived in Ohio since nineteen 81 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: eighty four Insider County, so yeah, I've lived here in 82 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: my whole life. Remember in high school, people around me, 83 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: they would start out with small pain pills and then 84 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: oxycott and hit and it was no longer recreational drug 85 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: use that people would win at parties. You were seeing 86 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: people become addicted very very very quickly. In two thousand 87 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: and eight, Nikki started writing about the issue for a 88 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: local newspaper. I started out covering the drug epidemic. I 89 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: was the first in the area to do stories on 90 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: oxycotton and looking at overdose rates in the area and 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: started asking those questions from the corner's office about how 92 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: many of these depths that we're seeing are connected to 93 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: opiate use, And then started looking into pill mills and 94 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: we ended up shutting down over twenty three pill mills 95 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: Insider County. Nikki's reporting helped shut a light on the 96 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: area's drug problem, but other illicit industries sprung up around it. 97 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: Nikki was there to cover it all. In twenty thirteen, 98 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: I did a series that ran for months on prostitution, 99 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: and I was walking the streets with some of these girls. 100 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I also talked to like parents of women that were 101 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: working on the streets, and talked to officers about the 102 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: problem and local businesses about how it affected them. It 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: was interesting because when I was doing these stories, I 104 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 1: started seeing a lot of names come up from these girls. 105 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: The one mentioned most often was Michael Moran. Michael Moran, 106 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: he's in his mid seventies, long time defense attorney, you know, 107 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: d wise, drug offenses, those kinds of things. He had 108 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: his own firm in Portsmouth, and at one point in 109 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: the late two thousands he got himself appointed as a 110 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: city councilman of Portsmouth. He's a very public person, so 111 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: if there was a Red Cross banquet or something that 112 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I was covering, he would be there. So he's been 113 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: around my whole career pretty much. Now. Rumors have been 114 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: circulating about Mike Moran for years. These stories about him 115 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: being involved in prostitution go all the way back to 116 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: thee than these. A lot of those stories are just 117 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: about him hiring girls dance and at local parties and 118 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: poker games. It was the secret that everyone choked about, 119 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: but no one really talked about, and it was pretty 120 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: common knowledge. I think I mentioned like a Red Cross 121 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: banquet I had to cover once. He was there with 122 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: a girl known to be arrested for prostitution, known to 123 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: be arrested for drug abuse, and she was there. You 124 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: could tell that she was under the influence by her behavior. 125 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: She was being very loud and on a cell phone 126 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: in the middle of this banquet and speaking very appropriately 127 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: for the setting, and Mike's just laughing with her, and 128 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: a city councilman at the time actually leaned over towards 129 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: me jokingly elbowed me on the side and said, there's 130 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Mike and one of his girls. It's just always been 131 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: known as Nicky. Began exploring Moran's ties to the local 132 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: sex trade. The story grew much darker. I was interviewing 133 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: some people who were in an impatient treatment facility, and 134 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: I found out that one of the women over the 135 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: program was involved with a human trafficking program, and so 136 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: I started talking with her about human trafficking and she 137 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: said that when women are arrested at a certain agent, 138 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: Moran has been going to see them in jail and 139 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: got them charges in exchange for doing sexual favors for 140 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: him and working in prostitution. Nicky further explained the allegations 141 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: leveled against Moran by area women at the corrupt of 142 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: what he does is he offers his legal services to 143 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: get these women out of jail and then puts them 144 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: under his employee. Yes, he gets women out of jail, 145 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: and that basically gets them into his clutches. Other stories 146 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: are that people are hired as dog walkers or as 147 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: cleaners and and said are actually working in prostitution, and 148 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: affidavit filed by the DA would later support these accounts. 149 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: James Pilcher explained that this method of manipulation marks the 150 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: distinction between prostitution and human trafficking. Some people will say, oh, well, 151 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: these women knew what they were doing, They were just 152 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: trying to make money. These women were prostitutes. Well, if 153 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: you talk to the experts, it went one step beyond that. 154 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: It went into trafficking. Because some of those allegations Moran 155 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: was holding over them, the fact that they were drug addicts, 156 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: even he would withhold their money or withhold the wherewithal 157 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: to get drugs. So the statute says, if you withhold 158 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: or threatened to withhold money that women need for drugs 159 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: or withhold the drugs, it's trafficking because it's coercion. Anytime 160 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: you can prove coercion, it's trafficking both in the Ohio 161 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: law and federal level. We're going to take a quick 162 00:09:54,360 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: break here. We'll be back in a moment. Oh. I'm 163 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: Carol Fisher, and I'm hosting a podcast called The Girl Friends. 164 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: Back in the nineteen nineties in Las Vegas, a few 165 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: of us dated the most eligible bachelor in town, Bob. 166 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: He spoke several languages, he did medical missionary work, and 167 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: he was Jewish. He was perfect on paper, but he wasn't. 168 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: He really wasn't. He shouted into the point where she 169 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: went unconscious. Bob could lie about anything, but only takes 170 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: the one time when somebody ends up dead. Unfortunately for Bob, 171 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: us girlfriends know how to fight back. I wanted him 172 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: to pay for his crime. He needed to be put 173 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: to justice. I'll be honest with you. If I saw 174 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: him right now, I'd spit on him. I would call 175 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: him and I would say, I know you killed my sister. 176 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: I will always hound you and haunt you. You can 177 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: listen to the girlfriends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast 178 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast. In our twenty two 179 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: years of friendship, Andy, this has to be the most 180 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: bizarre thing we've ever done. I know, I love it. 181 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: Our podcast My Vagina said, what is a podcast where 182 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: we ask our everyday Vagina listeners to pull up a 183 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: seat at the best Friend's table as we share our 184 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: most personal and humiliating stories and ask questions about women's bodies. 185 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: We are going to discuss all body things like what 186 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: exactly are we supposed to do with our pubs? Oh 187 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: my gosh, if you could have a heart shaped pube 188 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: that were bedazzled in pink rubies, or perrymenopause. I feel 189 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: right now justified. I'm going to start my own personal movement. 190 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to start blaming anything that goes wrong in 191 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: my life on perrymenopause, leg hair too long, permau, don't 192 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: have the will to clean, Perry menopause exactly, our whack periods, 193 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: boob issues, and so much more. Listen to My Vagina said, 194 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: what podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, over ever 195 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. What this is the unbelievable but 196 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: true story of George Remus. You might know him as 197 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: a character from Boardwalk Empire or as the inspiration for 198 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: Jay Gatsby. He was an eccentric and genius lawyer who 199 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: figured out how to game the system during Prohibition. Remus 200 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: is in the whiskey business, and Remus is the biggest 201 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: man in the business, while living the life of luxury 202 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: with his clamorous and ambitious wife Imogene. Daddy, I am 203 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: so glad you are here. But George Ramis's wild existence 204 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: took a dark and shocking turn, leading to betrayal. She 205 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: had Remis just exactly where she wanted him revenge. Feel 206 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: this muscle. I got this for Remus. I could crush 207 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: him like an egg. And one of the most sensational 208 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: murder trials in American history, we the jury, find the Defendant, 209 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 1: Join me Abbot Kaylor as we traced George Remus's transformation 210 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: from bootleg kick to alleged madman. Listen to The Mad 211 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: Bootleg King every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 212 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Afghanistan twenty twelve. One 213 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: Quiet Night, Staffs Aren't Robert Bales left his combat outpost alone. 214 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: He walked into two villages and started shooting, killing sixteen civilians, 215 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: many of them children. Maybe I'm made a mistake, maybe 216 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: I am wrong, but you have to understand the way 217 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: it went down. We've conducted a series of interviews with 218 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: one of America's most notorious war criminals. They paint a 219 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: complex portrait of a man changed by the global War 220 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: on Terror. The idea of hurting a kid killing a kid. 221 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: Come on. The War Within the Robert Bales Story is 222 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: an investigative podcast revealing explosive information on one of the 223 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: most controversial events in American military history. Baal's actions are 224 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: merely a symptom of a broken army. Listen to The 225 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: War Within the Robert Bale Story on the iHeartRadio app, 226 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Some believe 227 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: Michael Moran's reach goes farther than even human trafficking. In 228 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, a Portsmouth woman named Megan Lancaster disappeared. Michael 229 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: Moran has denied any involvement or responsibility in her disappearance. Additionally, 230 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: authorities have not brought any charges against him in the case. 231 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: At this time, it's unclear whether they have questioned him 232 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: in the matter. Megan, it's probably the case that is 233 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: closest to my heart, and that's mostly her sister in law, 234 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: Katie Lancaster, has just screamed and screamed and screamed on 235 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: her behalf. My name is Katie Lancaster and I am 236 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: the sister in law and best friend of Megan Lancaster 237 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: who has been missing from Stoda County since April third, 238 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Who was Megan Lancaster and how did you meet? 239 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: We met at a it was called Soda County Joint 240 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: Vocational School. We were both taking cosmetology. And she is 241 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: a wonderful, loving, gives a shirt off her back person 242 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: that I know for a fact that if this tragedy 243 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: had to happen to anybody, she would have given everything 244 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: she had to save the next person. Megan and Katie 245 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: formed an unbreakable bond and soon they became family members. 246 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: I was spending about every night with Megan, pretty much 247 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: on school night. Megan would say, my brother wants to 248 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: take you on a date, So I said, okay, okay, 249 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: like I'll let him take me for dinner and so 250 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: on and so forth. And I did that well. I 251 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: never left. I was seventeen, and we just hit it 252 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: off and fell in love. Katie and Meghan's brother Jimmy, 253 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: were married in two thousand and five. A few months later, 254 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: Katie became pregnant soon after, Megan did as well. I 255 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: went into labor August thirty first, had my baby September first, 256 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: like in the middle of the night, and she had 257 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: her baby November fourth, So we were legitimately only, you know, 258 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: a couple of months apart. In two thousand and six, 259 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: Megan gave birth to a son named Reese. Being a 260 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: young single mother was tough, but Megan seemed to have 261 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: a bright future ahead of her. Any sports she played, 262 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: she played to the fullest. She was there for her team, 263 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: always cheering everybody. On the softball she was the pitcher. 264 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: She had a full ride scholarship to Shawnee State. I mean, 265 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Megan couldn't have been any smarter than what 266 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: she was. Despite her intelligence and athleticism, Megan fell victim 267 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: to the drug epidemic that gripped the Portsmouth area She 268 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: was open that you know that she used rugs, that 269 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: she used a needle. It was rough, and I would 270 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: tell her. I would say, Megan, I would try to 271 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: play both sides, like her friend and her sister in law, 272 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: because I would say, Megan, you need to get help 273 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: and you need to change for you first and foremost, 274 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: but at the same time, you need to do it 275 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: for Reece because he needs you. And her answer was, Katie, 276 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: why change it now? Everybody's gonna look at me the 277 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: same way. I'm never gonna live down the things I've done. 278 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be able to change that opinion that 279 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: people have of me. She just couldn't see past the past, 280 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, path the things that she felt people would 281 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: never forgive, and then that point took over Megan and 282 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: it led to more years later, a strange encounter with 283 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: Megan would leave Katie forever suspicious of one local man, 284 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Michael Moran. I was in walmoret with Jeremy, and all 285 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I see Megan come bouncing down the 286 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: aisle and I'm like, what the hell was she wearing? 287 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: It was literally Santa Lingerie. To be honest, she said, 288 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm here to get something for this party I'm doing 289 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: for Marian it's a bachelor party, and I'm just like, okay, 290 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: but again, what why are you in here in that outfit? 291 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: Is you like, because this is what I'm wearing to 292 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: the party, and I'm like, get get whatever you're getting in, 293 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: Get the heck out of here before you get arrested 294 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: for indecent exposure? Can you describe April third, twenty thirteen. 295 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: April third, twenty thirteen, Megan went missing. That day, she 296 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: was with her mom. She went to her mom's early 297 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: in the morning, said Mom, I need to pay my 298 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: insurance because she had been pulled out over and cold 299 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: over card been impounded for literally like sixty dollars in 300 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: back child support or something. So her mom followed her 301 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: to Portsmouth. Megan got in her mom's car down in Portsmouth, 302 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: they rode down to the bonding company. They paid her insurance, 303 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: then got back in her own care her Mustang, and 304 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: they went their own ways. Later that day, Megan called 305 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: her mother, Marcy, to make arrangements to see her son. 306 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: She said, Mom, I'll be there to stay the night 307 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: with Reese. But that night Megan never showed up, you know, 308 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: And then the next day, Marcy tried to get a 309 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: hold of her cut and went by her apartment. Her 310 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: car wasn't there, so Mark's thought she's out running the 311 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: streets or whatever, you know, out running the road. Didn't 312 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: think much more about it. Two days later, on April fifth, 313 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Megan's car was found in the parking lot of a 314 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: local fast food restaurant. She was nowhere to be found. 315 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: What stuck out about the car was the fact that 316 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: it was up on the curb, and Megan would never 317 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: have parked it like that. She especially, she might have 318 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: pulled in if she was in a hurry and got 319 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: out and got something, got right back in the car 320 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: and left, but she would have never pulled in there 321 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: to leave it there like that. Inside the car, police 322 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: found Megan's wallet and a small notebook that contained some 323 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: suspicious entries. She left clues as to who she'd been 324 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: working for, what's she'd been up to. Right, Yes, she 325 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: left papers in it. They actually said dance for and 326 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: Michael Marian's name, his cell phone number, and how much 327 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: he paid for her to dance. We know we have 328 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: this problem with missing women, and we know we have 329 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: this problem with women who have been found dead in 330 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: their cases. That's never their murders have never been solved. 331 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: And despite that car set our mom said Tall October 332 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: of twenty thirteen. And there's a documents where they took it, 333 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: where they took the car into evidence that are dated 334 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: showing that. And it was really Katie and Megan's family 335 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: that did all of the investigating and higher private investigators 336 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: they couldn't get in cooperation from local police. So it's 337 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Megan's case really, it's the only one that has really 338 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: been made public so people can see exactly what these 339 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: women have gone through and how these things have happened. 340 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: If Maran was running a decades long sex trafficking operation, 341 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: we're talking about some serious abuse of power. What are 342 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. The abuse of power makes me 343 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: completely fucking sick. Excuse my language, but I don't know 344 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: how else to put it. It It makes me sick because 345 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, he's in this position to help people, to 346 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: help rebuild their lives if they been in trouble once 347 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: or twice, you know, drug charge, what ever, they send 348 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: them to treatment, they do this, they do that, but 349 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: he takes it a step further and takes them like 350 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: buys them what they want courses them into these things, 351 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: shows them a life that they've never had before, and 352 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: then boom back on drugs, back to doing what they 353 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: were doing back in trouble. And to me, that is 354 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: sickening and there's no excuse. Sport. Do you think Mike 355 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: Moran is involved in Megan's disaspiance. I do believe Michael 356 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: Moran is involved in Megan's disappearance, and I do believe 357 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: that we will eventually tie Mike Moran to Megan's disappearance. 358 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Let's stop here for another quick break. We'll be back 359 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: in a moment. Oh. I'm Carol Fisher, and I'm hosting 360 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: a podcast called The Girl Friends. Back in the nineteen 361 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: nineties in Las Vegas, a few of us dated the 362 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: most eligible bachelor in town, Bob. 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You know, people lose people all the time, 427 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: and they have a grave to go to, they have 428 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: somewhere they can go visit that they know that that 429 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: person is there, or they have ashes that they have 430 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: or whatever what have you. But we have a flipping 431 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: sign with missing on it that we decorate, and it 432 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: is heartbreaking and it is hard not to know whether 433 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: she's hungry, she's cold, she's being hurt, she's being abused, 434 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: or or she's dead. Not to know that is so hard. 435 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: I see her mama suffer daily, or importantly, I see 436 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: her baby boys suffer very badly. And I'm not saying that. 437 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,239 Speaker 1: You know he cries every day or no, I'm not 438 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: saying that. But he has a lot of questions but 439 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: we can't answer. But I can guarantee you I won't 440 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: stop till I can answer him. I don't care if 441 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: he's twenty five, thirty, thirty five, forty, if I'm along 442 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: around that long, I'll fight until I can answer those 443 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: questions for him. In an interview, Moran claimed that he 444 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: only knew Megan as a police informant who was tied 445 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: to a drug case he tried years back. When asked 446 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: about what may have happened to her, Moran believed that 447 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: she may have been murdered, though he had no information 448 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: to support his statement. It should be noted that there 449 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: have been no other specific allegations tying Moran to the 450 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: disappearance of any other women. Nicki Blankenship continued her investigation 451 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: into human trafficking in Portsmouth, but her attempts to report 452 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: on the area as missing women was met with some pushback. 453 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: You kind of started this with the story. This seemed 454 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: to have been local knowledge that no one was reporting on. Right. 455 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: When I was first saying, let me talk about the 456 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 1: missing women, I was told now, and what it didn't 457 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: matter if there was proof. It was can we talk 458 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: about the missing women? Can I talk to their families? 459 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: And I was told now. Nikki didn't let that stop her. 460 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: So I have seen these things personally. In Cyder County. 461 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: We say that everyone's been affected because if it's not 462 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: your friend, it is or your family member, it's at 463 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: least somebody you went to school with. Everybody knows somebody 464 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: who's been affected by the drug epidemic, and everybody knows 465 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: somebody who has turned a prostitution. So this is a 466 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: pretty personal story for you. Yeah, I spent probably my 467 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: whole career, I feel like working on this, and nobody 468 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: was listening to their stories before or seeing them as 469 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: even human. That really made me connect with a lot 470 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: of these people in their or is living here my 471 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: whole life. These are my friends and my family members 472 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: as well. Not specifically, but I have lost so many 473 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: friends to overdose. I have so many friends that have 474 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: battle addiction, and a lot of people I went to 475 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: school with are gone now. I have several friends from 476 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: high schools that ended up working in prostitution. They're people, 477 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: are human, and yet they're seen as a prostitute or 478 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: an addict exactly. And that makes people not really care 479 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: what happens to them. That makes people assume that they 480 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: chose some lifestyle that is dangerous. It makes people just 481 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: assume that they somehow are asking for that or whatever 482 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: happens to them as a part of a lifestyle they chose, 483 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: and so they just turn a blind eye. And I 484 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: think that's another thing that has made it so easy 485 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: for it to happen, and that happened right in public, 486 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: is that people see them as prostitutes and addicts. Nickie 487 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: didn't give up searching for prooflinking Michael Moran to Smith's 488 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: sex trafficking industry. I was at home a lot late 489 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: at night, just going through court documents and talking to families, 490 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: because a lot of these families told me I was 491 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: away personally entrusted. So then for me it was like, 492 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: how do I get something more than a story from 493 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: a family member or even a girl. I need some 494 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: kind of profinding, some kind of document. In twenty seventeen, 495 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: she got it. A man named Mark Eubanks reached out 496 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: to her and passed along a copy of a sworn 497 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: Affidavid filed by the Drug Enforcement Agency. Mark Cubanks, he 498 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: had been reading my stories on human trafficking and on 499 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: the heroin epidemic, and he just smelled me a copy 500 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: of the sild Affidavid. It was actually a part of 501 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: his case, and had told me his story, which was 502 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: that he had been arrested on drug charges and when 503 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: he was arrested, he was immediately taken and given live 504 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: detective test about missing women and dead women and Mike 505 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: Moran and human trafficking. The Affidavid laid out Southern Ohio 506 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: Drug Task Force and FBI operations that had been underweigh 507 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen investigating Michael Moran and his ties to 508 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: area sex trafficking. He's accused of trafficking women all over 509 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: the country from New York and New Jersey to Florida, racketeering, 510 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: and compelling and promoting prostitution. Another thing that is in 511 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: the affidavit that he was working with drug traffickers and 512 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: there was a wire tap where they were able to 513 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: hear some of the conversations between Moran and drug traffickers, 514 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: and he was getting drugs from these drug traffickers in 515 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: order to provide to the females that he had working 516 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: for him. The Affadavid specifically talks about whom working with 517 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: local judges and law enforcement and adult probation to make 518 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: these things happen. Nikki finally had to proof she needed 519 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: that validated the stories told by Portsmouth's vulnerable women, but 520 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: when she brought the document to her editor, she was 521 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: shocked and they told me, no, we're not going to publish. 522 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: Michael Moran would later be arrested and charged with eighteen 523 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: felony accounts, including promoting prostitution and trafficking in persons. He 524 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: was released on a three hundred thousand dollar bond, which 525 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: was later revoked after he violated the terms of his agreement. 526 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: He has pleaded not guilty to all charges and staunchly 527 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: maintains his innocence. He is now under house arrest while 528 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: he awaits trial. We'll bring you the second part of 529 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: the Michael Morran story in episode nine, but next week 530 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: we'll be hearing from some of our regular contributors, who 531 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: will discuss updates from accused brother George Wagner, the four's 532 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: most recent pre trial hearing. For more information on the 533 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: case and relevant photos, follow us on Instagram at Katie 534 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: Underscore Students. The Piked and Massacre Returned to Pike County 535 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: is executive produced by Stephanie Lydecker and me Courtney Armstrong. 536 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: Editing and sound designed by executive producer Jared Aston. 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