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Speaker 1: No your hosts, Mickey'spagnola, Brian brought Its, Taylor Stern and
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Hello everyone, and welcome back to a regular
Speaker 1: episode of Talking Cowboys as we dive into week seven
Speaker 1: here at the Star in Frisco and the s WBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studio, and we've we've still got lots to talk about.
Speaker 1: Even though the Cowboys haven't played in well over a week,
Speaker 1: there's lots going on around here. And so before we
Speaker 1: do that, though, how are you guys? I missed you guys.
Speaker 1: This should too ray to be back. That was instant. No, No,
Speaker 1: I was just I'm sorry. I was just its been
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah. The text from Mickey every day were
Speaker 1: so sweet. Things, wasn't it? Checking out? See if you
Speaker 1: had a good bye week's like a blue heart emoji
Speaker 1: from Mickey Usually what you do? I went up to
Speaker 1: Maryland to see my good friend had surprised her for
Speaker 1: a birthday. Well, what'd you do? I got a feeling
Speaker 1: she did? Sury taken hell us two did brought us
Speaker 1: went fishing out of town. No, I watched my Tigers
Speaker 1: this weekend. You guys got to win. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: I barely moved from the couch. Yeah, he's got to win.
Speaker 1: I would fishing in my neighborhood. Football baseball got into
Speaker 1: the baseball yet resting saw at all. Yeah, well that's
Speaker 1: what bye weeks are for. And the Cowboys did not rest.
Speaker 1: It was a very very busy bye week here, most
Speaker 1: doubtedly with different cuts. Nolan Carroll everything with Zeke and
Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman. Anyway, Navarro Bowman no longer consideration. He has
Speaker 1: decided to stay in the Bay Areas. Most everyone thought
Speaker 1: he might with the Raiders. No surprise there, really no,
Speaker 1: I didn't think so. Boy would be nice to have him.
Speaker 1: It helped Mickey's run defense, all of our hopefully. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: as long as he didn't have to get in coverage
Speaker 1: from what I read, No, the barrier has got to
Speaker 1: be a factor, right, it's seventeen hundred miles from Santa
Speaker 1: Clara beating on that one in Twitter, I did not exactly, man,
Speaker 1: It's more like forty like whatever, all right, it's not
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred miles. The other thing. You got your point though.
Speaker 1: The other thing is three million bucks for one year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Cowboys would have been willing
Speaker 1: to pay that the games. Yeah, they could have, but
Speaker 1: money would have been a factor too, I think with
Speaker 1: a guy who's twenty nine coming off. I mean he
Speaker 1: had a killes injury last year, as y'all discussed yesterday,
Speaker 1: and a really bad knee injury two years before that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not hurt again NY Cowboys in season? Right, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: got hurt against KOs last year. Yeah, was the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: The playoff game was twenty January twenty fourteen. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Still would have been good to have guys,
Speaker 1: some guys. Some guy in San Jose paper said he
Speaker 1: can't get sideling to sideline and he's a sitting duck
Speaker 1: and coverage on running backs and tight ends. Sounds like
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker got right now. Yeah. Well, the thing
Speaker 1: about him is though he's a physical point of attack player.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're going to run between the time,
Speaker 1: I mean, if the ball was coming at him, he's
Speaker 1: a sure tackler. Yeah, that's something he can do. We
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. I wouldn't put him in coverage
Speaker 1: if he's a two down players, he would be just fine.
Speaker 1: But you know, and I was looking at some of
Speaker 1: the tweets and different questions that were coming in post
Speaker 1: our discussion. An interesting one that we really haven't brought
Speaker 1: up is did the Cowboys cut Cedric Thornton too soon?
Speaker 1: You know, hindsight's twenty twenty and I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's even hindsight twenty twenty. There if you agree or disagree,
Speaker 1: if that was a good decision now seeing the run
Speaker 1: defense in your depth there, that was his best trade
Speaker 1: was stopping the run and he couldn't. Yeah, that's the issue. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right though, best trade, but Mickey's right too,
Speaker 1: Which is funny because it gives you some thought like, Okay,
Speaker 1: could Cedric Thornton have helped? You know, but Cedric Thornton
Speaker 1: wasn't doing the things well that he's supposed to do well.
Speaker 1: He wasn't the same player. No, he wasn't. In Philly.
Speaker 1: He wasn't. And that's and that's the that's the problem
Speaker 1: you run into if you know, talk about cutting him early.
Speaker 1: It'd been nice for him to show up and say okay,
Speaker 1: hey and training, Yeah, let's play the run a little
Speaker 1: bit better. Let's you know the things that you're good at,
Speaker 1: let me see you do. And to Mickey's point, he didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know I think it's I think it's bigger
Speaker 1: than that. I really really do now in hindsight though,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you knew that Stephen piet was going
Speaker 1: to retire after five games, now you're kind of in
Speaker 1: a spot where what do you do? Well, you just
Speaker 1: tell David Irving to get out there and do what
Speaker 1: he did the first time out? Again, is he a
Speaker 1: full time nose tackle? And again and again he wasn't.
Speaker 1: That game played a lot of it. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: if he can play that he had more production in
Speaker 1: one game than than Thornton had in ten games. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Thornton's best game was probably Cincinnati last year. But other
Speaker 1: than that, he he had struggles. Well, Rob brings up
Speaker 1: a good point sevenpia. He came in here and he
Speaker 1: was really kind of like the bandage of losing Troll
Speaker 1: McClain in free agency? Should the Cowboys have gone more
Speaker 1: after Troll mcclin in free agency? Now, what do you
Speaker 1: get paid by Washington Kentals? Perhaps our fabulous Roll mclin.
Speaker 1: You're asking about twenty something million. I'll find out it
Speaker 1: was more than they felt like they needed to pay
Speaker 1: for one technique who last year was good. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: last year was probably his first real healthy season with
Speaker 1: the team, just about true. So you have to factor
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in you're making the multi year
Speaker 1: commitment to a guy. It's all hindsight, you know. And
Speaker 1: we brought up a good point in our last full
Speaker 1: show Tay that you know, these some of these free
Speaker 1: agent moves have not worked out for this team, but
Speaker 1: they're always hesitant to pay anybody in free agent Roe
Speaker 1: McClain four years, twenty one million guaranteed at signing was
Speaker 1: ten million, average five million a year. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of money. It's a lot, it's a lot money. So
Speaker 1: you know, just something to think about. But Navarro boment
Speaker 1: kind of at least since a lot of guys have
Speaker 1: been cut in different moves have been made in this season,
Speaker 1: who was the first one that I thought of a
Speaker 1: real consideration for the Dallas Cowboys. A lot of times,
Speaker 1: you guys see these guys that get cut and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys are all getting tweets should the Cowboys
Speaker 1: pick this guy up? Right? And you guys are just
Speaker 1: laughing at it. But this one was one to kind
Speaker 1: of Okay, let's look at it. Let me I see this.
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw dirt on a guy or
Speaker 1: you know, be disrespectful. But do you? But do you?
Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear what you here. Know, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about Crawford playing that playing the three. You're talking about
Speaker 1: Jack Crawford or Tyron Crawford, and then Colin's moving over
Speaker 1: to the one. Yeah, and what are you gonna do
Speaker 1: with David Irving? Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if David Irving would be my every down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder about that. You want to put him at
Speaker 1: right defensive end. I'm thinking of spots. I'm thinking of spots.
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that putting. I'm trying to put
Speaker 1: as much inside to help my linebackers as I can.
Speaker 1: It seems like that the guards and the centers are
Speaker 1: kind of killing me at the linebacker spot right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to put guys up that might be
Speaker 1: better hold up guys inside. David Irvin is a slinky
Speaker 1: kind of a player, and you know gets you know,
Speaker 1: he could get tall, guy gets small gets squared. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's really a pass rusher, that's what he really is.
Speaker 1: He's a He's a good pass rusher from the inside.
Speaker 1: So if I'm having trouble stopping the run at least
Speaker 1: on first and second down, do I might think about
Speaker 1: putting more inside. I think that you know, you talk
Speaker 1: about McClain and not signing him, and then people on
Speaker 1: the other side will say, well, why did you give
Speaker 1: Crawford all that money? See, that's that's you know, it
Speaker 1: appears to me that there has been some imbalance on
Speaker 1: who you pay, who you don't pay, who's good enough
Speaker 1: to be paid? You know that that's I think that's
Speaker 1: where they're missing, missing the evaluation right now because because
Speaker 1: to me, if you're going to Crawford, you know, they
Speaker 1: paid him as a three technique and gave him a
Speaker 1: gave him a good chunk of money, and now what
Speaker 1: he's doing, he's playing right defensive end for you. So
Speaker 1: that's it. There's a lot of evaluation it's going on
Speaker 1: that that doesn't look like it's it's all lining up
Speaker 1: like they thought it should line up. What about him
Speaker 1: playing one technique? I would play him at the three
Speaker 1: myself because fans you're talking about Tyrone Crawford playing it. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't have a problem in that.
Speaker 1: I just to me if I could keep him on
Speaker 1: the edge, because I've known he has a history of
Speaker 1: shoulder problems and things like that. He tends to get
Speaker 1: kind of beat up as you go along. So if
Speaker 1: you keep him on the shoulder of the guard, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's just playing that one gap right there, not
Speaker 1: having to take on a center and a guard playing
Speaker 1: an inside technique they need, they need Malie Collins to
Speaker 1: play better too. Well, you really only have one true
Speaker 1: nose tackle left. That's Brian Price, right. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: I don't know how many snaps you want to give
Speaker 1: him on a weekly basis. So I'm with you on Irving.
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a move around guy. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a pass rusher tackle in the
Speaker 1: nickel and sub packages. But I don't know. If I
Speaker 1: don't know, if run defense, he's gonna the guy you
Speaker 1: want to hold up for base defense is basically a
Speaker 1: sub package today. That's true, that's true. I mean, how
Speaker 1: many snaps do you think they played that last game
Speaker 1: with three lass. Well, then if teams are going to
Speaker 1: get him in sub packages and run on them, then
Speaker 1: they're going to be hurting. Well that's the problem right now.
Speaker 1: That then, that's what I'm saying, though, you could play
Speaker 1: Crawford as an inside technique at least maybe get something
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher plus a run defender. That's my
Speaker 1: only that's my only thought right there. Well, I like
Speaker 1: what you guys are saying, Hey, you're giving option, you
Speaker 1: better figure out how to stop the run that that's
Speaker 1: gonna be. And like if you move him inside and
Speaker 1: who's playing right defensive end which they haven't found. Oh long,
Speaker 1: we've said they don't have a right defense I know,
Speaker 1: and so be better? I mean, are you better off?
Speaker 1: Are you better off getting gashed in the run or
Speaker 1: not having a right defensive end? Fan question, move up,
Speaker 1: Lewis Neil, could you throw throw taco in the middle? Now?
Speaker 1: See now, Rob, you've asked that question about him playing
Speaker 1: some nickel tackle right and the nickel Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a two eighty, but he sure
Speaker 1: doesn't look it. Yeah, let's say he's about two six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and there's been some times where he's actually looked
Speaker 1: pretty good when they've used him in some rush stuff.
Speaker 1: I know at training camp when they worked him with
Speaker 1: when they worked him with Lawrence, there were some things
Speaker 1: in some preseason games he wasn't bad. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you want to make a steady diet, living or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. Him playing as a three technique,
Speaker 1: you know, you better figure out you you need somebody,
Speaker 1: You need something to at least keep these centers and
Speaker 1: guards off these linebackers. That's been a big, big problem,
Speaker 1: yeah problem, and two games out with Shaun Lee it
Speaker 1: was a very glaring when you do make mistakes and
Speaker 1: you don't hold guys up. He's the one guy that
Speaker 1: can run and make it, can avoid. I will say this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see this defense with Shaun Lee and
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens in the game at the same time, because
Speaker 1: we have not seen that yet this year. And Brian
Speaker 1: makes a good point. I mean, everything starts up front,
Speaker 1: but those two guys flown to the ball. I think
Speaker 1: will help this run defense for sure, It should, it should. Well,
Speaker 1: just some thoughts there, and now we have to prepare
Speaker 1: this team without Ezekiel Elliott. Obviously we've all been on
Speaker 1: different podcasts since the news came out Thursday afternoon, and yes,
Speaker 1: more news came out yesterday, not anything surprising or unexpected,
Speaker 1: but they did reach out to reappeal what court was
Speaker 1: at in the Fifth Court again Fifth Court. Yes, actually
Speaker 1: they're doing it both both. They've already applied a motion
Speaker 1: for a temporary restraining order with the Southern District of
Speaker 1: New York along with the Fifth Circuit Court to hurry
Speaker 1: up and get a stay until they decide if they're
Speaker 1: gonna hear the new word that I learned un bunk
Speaker 1: hearing where instead of a three judge panel that in
Speaker 1: bank is it's spilled a C spelled umbunk? Is that
Speaker 1: he said, I just said it French. Oh unless our
Speaker 1: guy from them, yeah, will tell us on B A
Speaker 1: N C. Yeah, I think we said in bank in
Speaker 1: the bank. Yeah, I don't know. We're from Texas, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not. It was being filed in New Orleans, so
Speaker 1: I put a little French Napoleonic code mayberench twist on.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it have some fun. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that would mean the whole all the judges in that
Speaker 1: circuit would actually listen to what they have to say.
Speaker 1: So they haven't given up yet and probably find out
Speaker 1: at some point, maybe today, since they applied for emergency
Speaker 1: motion to see if they get a stay, which means
Speaker 1: which would allow him to play until they hear one
Speaker 1: or the other case. Are you talking about the tro
Speaker 1: in New York or the hearing, well both. It's a
Speaker 1: hearing for the TRO today right one Central time, and
Speaker 1: they've also asked the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans to
Speaker 1: hurry up and give him a stay until they decide
Speaker 1: if they're going to hear the entire court judges in
Speaker 1: the court case. I think it's more confusing by the week.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different manures and what's happening. Just
Speaker 1: to make it simple, what they're trying to do is
Speaker 1: get to a point where a court listens to their
Speaker 1: lawsuit against the NFL for a inherently unfair arbitration case
Speaker 1: which the judge in Sherman ruled in their favor. The
Speaker 1: NFL is just playing legal ease with this whole thing
Speaker 1: to block ever getting to that lawsuit. They don't want
Speaker 1: to go to court and on that lawsuit. And if
Speaker 1: you got one judge that agreed with you, who knows
Speaker 1: if you get another judge degree with you, and they
Speaker 1: got one judge in New Orleans to agree with them.
Speaker 1: So that's why they keep fishing here to see if
Speaker 1: they can finally get this thing hurt in court. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll ever get there. And you know,
Speaker 1: if they do, when does it happen, you know, to
Speaker 1: do they get to stay and then it happens in
Speaker 1: the offseason, you know, I think that's the shot they
Speaker 1: want to take. I couldn't play football and do this
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if I could. He's very
Speaker 1: mentally strong. You have to be as a football player.
Speaker 1: You have to let things go. I have a short
Speaker 1: term memory, but I'm sorry. I mean, I can barely
Speaker 1: understand it, and I have to speak on it every day,
Speaker 1: you know, on this podcast just in general talkings, and
Speaker 1: I can barely understand. Granted, he has a lot of
Speaker 1: very helpful resources around him, a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are handling things that are completely out of his hands.
Speaker 1: But it's your life, you know, it's your life on
Speaker 1: the line. We've had this debate and there's no need
Speaker 1: to really get into a debate on it. But you're
Speaker 1: surprised that he didn't sue her for deformation. Can't I
Speaker 1: mean legally grounds to clear his name. I don't know
Speaker 1: from a a legal standpoint, defamation if the case never
Speaker 1: went to court. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So he
Speaker 1: it's the Court of NFL is trying this case, right,
Speaker 1: the Court of NFL is calling him a domestic violence abuser. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's where this whole thing boils down to, really,
Speaker 1: is that this should sue. This whole thing is sitting
Speaker 1: to clear your name. It's collectively bargained, you know. It's
Speaker 1: it's in the CBA that they can hand down a suspension.
Speaker 1: And that's fine. But I'm not saying it's it's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's ultimately, you know, the Brady thing.
Speaker 1: That's why players have trouble winning these cases. What's going
Speaker 1: on with Jarvis Landry. Somebody was tweeting at us about
Speaker 1: how this is a very similar situation that he's going
Speaker 1: into and I need to look further into that. I
Speaker 1: don't know his case. I got too many cases. I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with it right now. That's the thing, is like
Speaker 1: I need to look into because somebody was like, this
Speaker 1: is the exact same thing that's happening to Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: and no one's focusing on It's like, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Remember this didn't get focused on for almost a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a year and later you're right. Bottom line, he's
Speaker 1: on the reserve suspend list and he's not he's not
Speaker 1: allowed to be here. Is that correct? Yes, what I
Speaker 1: understand that's per the rules of the suspension. So sure
Speaker 1: it's tough. I mean, what he's away from the facility.
Speaker 1: What if he gets an injunction, then he's, like you said, Tay,
Speaker 1: like the mindset you gotta it's this herky jerky thing,
Speaker 1: then he's playing football again. Potentially. It's it's strange, you know,
Speaker 1: and you guys know this. You guys have all played sports.
Speaker 1: Sports is very routine organized. I mean, this team is
Speaker 1: one of the best teams to be very structured and
Speaker 1: at least that I've been around, very structured things, say
Speaker 1: the same you know what's happening. Coach wears the same
Speaker 1: clothes every day. I mean, you know, it's very structured,
Speaker 1: and so these guys are very trained to be like
Speaker 1: where do I need to be, what time do I
Speaker 1: need to be there? How long? What am I doing,
Speaker 1: what are we looking at? What am I watching? And
Speaker 1: then it's like, well wait until one thirty and then
Speaker 1: maybe and now you've got a thirty minute drive. I
Speaker 1: don't know where he lives, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like these don't get here fast? Yeah here you will.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. If he doesn't act us
Speaker 1: all week and gets his stay on Friday, do you
Speaker 1: think he plays? That's my question is is the routine things?
Speaker 1: Because Garrett says there's no hard fashed rules about injury.
Speaker 1: So I mean, do you go ahead and if you
Speaker 1: got veteran running backs? Yeah, Morrison McFadden, if you had
Speaker 1: to go Smith, you could throw him. And there's a
Speaker 1: veteran guy. Well, I like what you're saying, and let's
Speaker 1: hold that until after our first break because I think
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Speaker 1: Moreheads studio, and before we went to our first break
Speaker 1: here Brian brought us you asked a very great question.
Speaker 1: You mind asking that once again to the panel. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't practice all week long, is he ka eliot?
Speaker 1: Would you still play him on Sunday you're two and three? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: If he practiced on Friday, No, he he misses that thing.
Speaker 1: He's likely going to have to fly to San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Say on Saturday. Say that happens. Ye? I like that. UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because the hard part would be hadn't
Speaker 1: been here for anything, true like meetings through to the ball,
Speaker 1: and now there's nothing to say. Somebody, one of his teammates,
Speaker 1: can't email him. Yeah, hey, dear friends, let it catch up,
Speaker 1: keep hey Dak, keep him in tune of what's going on. Sure,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any prohibition against that. I hated
Speaker 1: prohibition alive during that I hated prohibition. Then when I
Speaker 1: wasn't alive, a lot of people did too. That's why
Speaker 1: if I was alive, Mickey, I'd have hated prose. That's
Speaker 1: why the basements were very important. Elliott nest and I
Speaker 1: would not. Elliott, here's been in jail. That's right, l
Speaker 1: I've been prohibition me and the drops greatness. I would
Speaker 1: if he didn't find out till Saturday after the team left,
Speaker 1: then now stay home about Friday. If he finds out
Speaker 1: on Friday and he can get out here and do something,
Speaker 1: I'd say, yes, absolutely. Oh, I like what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And Mickey, I think that's a good point because sound
Speaker 1: logical right there. Well, does the team think, Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: we don't find out he has to fly do all
Speaker 1: this stuff. His mind's been everywhere this week. Do we
Speaker 1: give him this week to kind of rest and get
Speaker 1: him back next week, and then this week they have
Speaker 1: an opportunity against a team that hasn't been doing very hot.
Speaker 1: Not saying that this is a team they could just
Speaker 1: walk in there and steam roll. I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: is this a team that they could test out and see? Like,
Speaker 1: what do we have without Zeke? Well, here's a good
Speaker 1: thing from what I can detect from these courts and
Speaker 1: these judges. They bake it basically have bankers hours. They
Speaker 1: do nine to five Monday through Friday. I don't think
Speaker 1: what did officials? Anything's not coming down on Saturday. Right,
Speaker 1: they're done, They're they're already happier. They have Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: a prohibition so elliot, So I would think sometime by Friday,
Speaker 1: and they hope to find something out today. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. Let me ask you a ruling from the bench,
Speaker 1: get us stay you know, get a temporary injunction. Okay,
Speaker 1: hello Ward in New York? Yeah? Hello? Would this stay last? Though?
Speaker 1: Is this a one week thing that we're gonna happen? Well,
Speaker 1: they would, I would imagine weeks to stay last until
Speaker 1: they can get to the case, right, but he could
Speaker 1: keep playing as long as they right. They would tell
Speaker 1: the NFL. Okay, you just get over this is my
Speaker 1: last study that the week one when we were talking
Speaker 1: about this same thing happened data hearing week one during
Speaker 1: the week tro I think it was a two week
Speaker 1: deal or fourteen day type thing. Again, I left my
Speaker 1: law to Grea at home until they actually heard the case. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then they heard the case and said, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're over ruling. He can play until the lawsuits hurt.
Speaker 1: And that's why they went to the Fifth Circuit Court
Speaker 1: in New Orleans to say, whoa, wait a minute, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have jurisdiction to do that, and they jumped the
Speaker 1: gun to file the lawsuit. And then they said, yes,
Speaker 1: that's the case. So yeah, it's been a jurisdiction. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one, no one has ruled on the
Speaker 1: validity of the of what happened his suspension or what
Speaker 1: happened during the arbitration. No one's ruled on that right.
Speaker 1: They have never got to that. Yeah, that's the sad
Speaker 1: part of this whole deal. There are more roadblocks. I
Speaker 1: wonder if there's another court of appeals we don't know about.
Speaker 1: Probably there's more courts out here than summer league basketball.
Speaker 1: You would have been a great judge, Mickey, judge, Mickey
Speaker 1: all rise, like, let's just cut to the chase. Let's
Speaker 1: get to it. Yeah, let's quit that. I like those judges.
Speaker 1: That's what they're fishing for to find one. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like those judges. Let's just point blank tell me
Speaker 1: what's going on, Mickey, just in what you know? And
Speaker 1: Rob and you guys have followed this a lot more.
Speaker 1: I thank Taylor. You're trying to jump in there when
Speaker 1: you can't. I I just haven't. I just whatever happens happen.
Speaker 1: You're watching tape. Yeah, whatever happens happens. But is it?
Speaker 1: But there's an all likelihood he's gonna lose in New
Speaker 1: York right from what we not. It's not a favorable jurisdiction.
Speaker 1: Like we thought he was gonna win in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: He's gonna lose in New York, right, So we're wrong
Speaker 1: about New York too. Probably. Well, I mean they I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a sign, but I mean
Speaker 1: they started off the weekend trying to keep this thing
Speaker 1: in Texas. So is that a sign that they don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence there? I don't know. Yes,
Speaker 1: yes they have, but they have filed in New York,
Speaker 1: so yes, we'll see. I mean they do have trying
Speaker 1: to avoid that, but they do have for precedence though
Speaker 1: in Texas they had a judge rule in his favor,
Speaker 1: you had one dissenting judge? Is that how you say it?
Speaker 1: In New Orleans? So I mean maybe New York looks
Speaker 1: at that. It's two to two right now. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: it is a pro it's in the NFL's backyard for sure. Well, Bran,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of plays into what we should
Speaker 1: probably talk about next. Well, let's say you know he's
Speaker 1: not so yeah, many things, we guys, We just told
Speaker 1: you everything that could possibly happen very well, still could
Speaker 1: play this weekend, but most likely not. So with that
Speaker 1: being said, you've got four backs on this team that
Speaker 1: could help you. Two fullbacks in Keith Smith and Rod Smith,
Speaker 1: and then you got Alfred Morris and Darren McFadden as
Speaker 1: your guys. Obviously, Darren McFadden has been inactive thus far,
Speaker 1: but most believing now that was to keep him fresh, right,
Speaker 1: So what do you do you know, does Darren McFadden
Speaker 1: and he's your starter now over Morris? Or is there
Speaker 1: going to be more of a discussion of that throughout
Speaker 1: this week of practice. That's where I want to hear
Speaker 1: from you guys and Special Brand since you said, you know,
Speaker 1: I think Mickey was onto something a while back about
Speaker 1: McFadden not being active to try and save him, to
Speaker 1: kind of get him, you know, to keep him fresh.
Speaker 1: And you know, now it's all hands on deck when
Speaker 1: this thing goes to you know, six games. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think all week we do a great job of
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on practice when we can watch it.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk to the right people kind of
Speaker 1: figure out what they're going to do. But I do
Speaker 1: agree that you're gonna now I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Morris. It's gonna be the starter here and again,
Speaker 1: this might all change, but Mickey said something a while back,
Speaker 1: and he's absolutely right. This could be like, Okay, who's
Speaker 1: the guy that gives us the most the best chance
Speaker 1: to complete guy? And even though Alfred did some great things,
Speaker 1: and Alfred's done some great things, but I think that
Speaker 1: they have more confidence in McFadden. And I know it
Speaker 1: sounds funny even though he's been inactive every week. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of the feeling that I'm getting at Okay, Hey,
Speaker 1: we'll be fine because we can do this with McFadden,
Speaker 1: we can do this with Morris, and we can do
Speaker 1: this with Rod Smith. Yeah, let's not forget Smith because
Speaker 1: they started using him a little bit more on third down.
Speaker 1: I sure did as the third down back, and he
Speaker 1: makes some heck of a play in the Green Bay game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they too. So three running backs a full back. That's
Speaker 1: basically what they've been doing so far, right, Yeah, running
Speaker 1: backs in a full back. The thing they'll be difficult
Speaker 1: in this game is that if you go back and
Speaker 1: watch the San Francisco game last year, and I know
Speaker 1: it's a different coaching staff and all that, but a
Speaker 1: lot of the same players. Zeke was a pig factor
Speaker 1: in this game. As far as they throw him a
Speaker 1: screen one time on a first to twenty he gets
Speaker 1: nineteen yards. There were some tough runs that he was
Speaker 1: able to make in that game. On third down he
Speaker 1: gets I mean one time Bowman's got him trapped for
Speaker 1: no game, boom he gets, he gets a first down.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were a lot of physical runs that
Speaker 1: he had to make in that game. And that's what
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss. That's what you're gonna miss that physical finisher.
Speaker 1: And so maybe with Rod Smith, you know we've seen
Speaker 1: that in the preseason, maybe he could be the one
Speaker 1: thing the Cowboys are outstanding on at is on third
Speaker 1: and one hand in the ball. Zek They're even better
Speaker 1: on fourth and one hand in the ball to Ezekiel.
Speaker 1: If we remember what happened the year before when it
Speaker 1: was McFadden, they had trouble on third and short. You
Speaker 1: don't want to get back. Now you got Dak with
Speaker 1: the read option stuff that can maybe help you there,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to get back into that mode
Speaker 1: of where third and one we're struggling to get a
Speaker 1: first down. Yeah, that's not guaranteed. Yeah, And that's what
Speaker 1: people are overlooking. They're looking at Zeke's numbers and they're going, well,
Speaker 1: they're not that good. Let's just go on, Well you
Speaker 1: know what converting look at Look at the tough yards
Speaker 1: he's picked up. I said it last week in the
Speaker 1: Green Bay game. I looked up and was like, how
Speaker 1: is the average in two yards? Again? Because he had
Speaker 1: some tough, dirty yards and they need that. They need
Speaker 1: that muscle in there that can do that. The other
Speaker 1: two guys aren't there. If they don't have that. It
Speaker 1: might come down to rod Smith being that guy. If
Speaker 1: he could prove that he can be that physical finisher.
Speaker 1: I think he showed some of that in preseason he did.
Speaker 1: I think all three of these guys have earned carries.
Speaker 1: If Zeke's out, I really do. I think you could
Speaker 1: use all three of them in a certain role. I
Speaker 1: will say when McFadden was the main guy for most
Speaker 1: of the twenty fifteen season, he did better when he
Speaker 1: got was able to get into a rhythm. And I
Speaker 1: think you could say that for all running backs, but
Speaker 1: I think particularly for him, he got better the more
Speaker 1: carries got. So that's something to consider too. I like
Speaker 1: what you guys are saying, and I like the Rod Smith.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize rod Smith went to
Speaker 1: Ohio State too. Yeah, hopefully he can physical guy he
Speaker 1: can play like If he plays like he did in
Speaker 1: the preseason, didn't that gives you some That gives you
Speaker 1: some hope. But again it's you're gonna miss You're gonna
Speaker 1: miss Ezekiel on those tough runs. And I again, watching
Speaker 1: that San Francisco game last year, he made some incredible
Speaker 1: runs and some really nice plays when they needed him.
Speaker 1: To be big. He was big. One thing about Mickey's theory,
Speaker 1: and I think there's something to it too. I do.
Speaker 1: But if you want to play Devil's advocate, I mean
Speaker 1: keep him inactive. Right the first five games McFadden, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Morris had eight carries as the guy behind Zeke. I
Speaker 1: don't It wasn't like they were really risking McFadden's health. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you're only give him eight carries, why take
Speaker 1: the chance of getting him hurt for eight carries? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just only eight carries? Even risk it? What does he have?
Speaker 1: Eight carries for eighty one yards? Eighty seven? Eighty seven
Speaker 1: and one is seventy seventy yard carry? Yeah, so you're
Speaker 1: ready to see number twenty then if you I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not him all the time, you know, it's those
Speaker 1: guys up front got to play better that They need
Speaker 1: a healthy Tyrann Smith. Yeah, you know. And if I
Speaker 1: think they can get that, then they can run enough
Speaker 1: to take some pressure off Dak. But they gotta take
Speaker 1: some pressure off of him he can't get. You want
Speaker 1: your quarterback to keep going out of the pocket. You
Speaker 1: saw what happened Aaron Rodgers right out of the pocket.
Speaker 1: You know, you get pile, drive to the ground, boys,
Speaker 1: get outside the pocket. Yes he is, but that's the downside, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all this moaning and how many times as we seen
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go down, Now Aaron Rodgers gets hurt. I see
Speaker 1: people writing about what we got to change the rules,
Speaker 1: we got to protect the quarterbacks. Yeah, no one wrote
Speaker 1: that when Tony Romeo broke two collar bones and same
Speaker 1: collar bone twice in one season. Right, you know they
Speaker 1: act like, oh, this is the only quarterbacks ever got hurt.
Speaker 1: It's time for what happens. This is what happens to quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you know. And a part of it, you made a
Speaker 1: good point as far as saying, you know a lot
Speaker 1: of fans are just out there looking like, well, Zeke
Speaker 1: did terrible in the Broncos game. You know, McFadden can
Speaker 1: do better than that. Morris had the seventy yard run.
Speaker 1: They just think it's kind of a plug in place
Speaker 1: type thing. Not at that position. Not at that position.
Speaker 1: Because let's look at a perfect example from this past weekend.
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson gets traded to the Arizona Cardinals and makes
Speaker 1: an immediate impact. Granted they did good plays and good
Speaker 1: calls around him, right, they actually blocked up front. They
Speaker 1: actually blocked up front in an old line that has
Speaker 1: been struggling. Absolutely, when the worst in the NFL running
Speaker 1: the football out, I thought it was high praise when
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald says, Hey, if Adrian Peterson had been on
Speaker 1: this team all along, I would have had a ring
Speaker 1: by Now. Yeah, that's a lot, And that means that
Speaker 1: he that's how important running the football is to you.
Speaker 1: Look what it did for Aaron Rodgerson that game. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, laid it out for you. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: I mean the reason that you won the game, or
Speaker 1: they won the game is because they were they were
Speaker 1: able to show balance. Look at the rams, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean Todd girl really right, Yeah, very fair. And again,
Speaker 1: look what it did for the Cowboys last year. The
Speaker 1: drives they were able to finish in the end zone
Speaker 1: last year compared to twenty fifteens. Heke had fifteen touchdowns
Speaker 1: the leader for the Cowboys and twenty fifteen was a
Speaker 1: guy who was off the team by mid season. By
Speaker 1: the end of the year, So or big factor. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's so funny to see these people. I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of tweets that are like we'll just
Speaker 1: put Darren mcfaundin. Now. I've never seen a team that's
Speaker 1: been in this type of situation. And you guys disagree
Speaker 1: with me that it has two one thousand yard backs
Speaker 1: right there. Have you seen a team that it was
Speaker 1: kind of in this kind of situation. No, they've actually
Speaker 1: protected themselves, and Stephen Jones said it, Yeah, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what you need to do. And that's the smart thing
Speaker 1: you see with Will McClay, I mean he's tried to
Speaker 1: you know, they kept they could have got rid of
Speaker 1: McFadden last year in a trade, they could have got
Speaker 1: rid of Alfred Morse, they kept, they kept them around,
Speaker 1: and so with you know, that's what you have to
Speaker 1: do those That's smart. If you know something potentially is
Speaker 1: going to happen, protect yourself and they've done that. It's smart.
Speaker 1: And I also also think it speaks to the quality
Speaker 1: of those two guys as people as teammates because you
Speaker 1: know they've had to sit a lot, and I mean
Speaker 1: you just mentioned Peterson. You go somewhere else, you probably
Speaker 1: get more opportunities, but they've been willing to wait and
Speaker 1: be patient and their time might be coming very soon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know Mickey brought up to the point about
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers than him going down and Romo going down
Speaker 1: twice in one season with the color Bone. Of course,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo was the commentator on No, he wasn't. It
Speaker 1: was a fragment. But then there were some swirlings about
Speaker 1: Tony Romeo returning, going to the pack. You know what,
Speaker 1: any other team, any other team, I would maybe entertain that.
Speaker 1: But know when the people in Green Bay, that's not
Speaker 1: their mo that they're they're more of a Brett Hundley
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Well, no, they're more of a let's
Speaker 1: draft our guys, let's develop guys, let's let our guys play.
Speaker 1: That's kind of their thing. Now, if they lose two
Speaker 1: or three games, maybe that narrative will change. But I
Speaker 1: just feel like though that with ted Thompson, what I
Speaker 1: know about Teddy, I just don't see them. I don't
Speaker 1: see them entertaining that thought. And that injury should only
Speaker 1: reinforce Romo's reason why not broadcast booth Already that offensive
Speaker 1: line is horrible and it's gotten worse. He lost two
Speaker 1: more guys starter and a backup in that game. Layne
Speaker 1: Taylor got hurt in that game. Last week. I want
Speaker 1: to see Rome will just run out of the booth
Speaker 1: and go start playing. I have three reasons why I
Speaker 1: don't ever see that happen. Don't ever leave Jim nann one. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's one of them. Though. I think he's found a
Speaker 1: calling there as a guy that's going to be in
Speaker 1: that booth for a long time. They might name a
Speaker 1: video game after him one day. It might be Romo
Speaker 1: instead of Madden. The offensive line in Green Bay is poor,
Speaker 1: that's not exactly ideal for him. And the back thing, like,
Speaker 1: it's not just a guy coming out of retirement quote unquote,
Speaker 1: it's a guy with a major back injury that I
Speaker 1: wonder how much he's been strengthening that and doing those
Speaker 1: exercises and being ready to play. Like it's not just
Speaker 1: he's had the injury. Thing with the back to me
Speaker 1: is just I think he's That's why I've always thought
Speaker 1: he's done. Yeah, play again, but we'll see. Somebody was
Speaker 1: saying today, of course, the first game that Romo will
Speaker 1: be broadcasting will be at at and T Stadium against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and people were saying, I hope the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Chiefs is not you mean here it
Speaker 1: at and T Stadium. Yeah, what did I say, first
Speaker 1: game he'll be broadcasting. Yeah, first for the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: met with the Cowboys. With the Cowboys, I thought he
Speaker 1: was doing the Chiefs Chiefs game, that's first November fifth.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, cool. Is it not correct? Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: But I thought for some reason he was doing the
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day game. I think the Chiefs before that. Oh,
Speaker 1: sure it is. Yeah. So I was saying, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit tricky with these guys. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has these psychic abilities, if you would, he just needs
Speaker 1: to keep doing what he's doing. Yep, that's exactly right, exactly,
Speaker 1: And we need to hear from the fans. Now we
Speaker 1: have a caller, Jimmy from Colorado is on the line.
Speaker 1: Each party, guys, uh the show. I just had a
Speaker 1: quick question about Rob Smith. Do you think he'll have
Speaker 1: a bigger role in office? That's my question? Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I think we touched on that. Jimmy
Speaker 1: had just a little bit ago and it sounds like
Speaker 1: you were driving, so yeah, you didn't hear us. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that they'll they'll work him in there. I
Speaker 1: think that he'll he'll get some touches, maybe more than
Speaker 1: he's gotten. I mean, everybody can't touch the ball. I
Speaker 1: don't know they're gonna do it three guys, but um yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see them using him. Whoever, the most physical
Speaker 1: back they have that can carry the football and do
Speaker 1: it consistently is who they need to play. He's a
Speaker 1: physical back. And if if it means you know, if
Speaker 1: if it's INDI indication of what we've seen from the
Speaker 1: training camp, I have no problem hinting the football to
Speaker 1: Rod Smith. And can he be a down after down
Speaker 1: after down player? Can he? You know? Obviously Mickey said
Speaker 1: he's been in the third down packages, blitz pick up stuff.
Speaker 1: Obviously he could catch. We saw that in the Green
Speaker 1: Bay game. So but whoever they play, let that guy
Speaker 1: be really the identity of what they've trying to do here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't go soft. Now, pick the guy that has the
Speaker 1: physical nature and we'll go and finish runs. That's going
Speaker 1: to be important for this team. I just you stand
Speaker 1: next to him, and I enjoyed visiting with him last week.
Speaker 1: He's six three, he looks like he played tight end
Speaker 1: for you. I mean, he is a big, physical running
Speaker 1: back and he made this team not just as a
Speaker 1: special teams guy. I think they really like his potential
Speaker 1: as a runner. Obviously the other two guys have more experience,
Speaker 1: but I think you can find a role for him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I remember when he first got on this team,
Speaker 1: Brian kept saying, well, you know his brother Jalen. He's
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, he's pretty good. You guys should probably
Speaker 1: watch him this season with Notre Dame and then look
Speaker 1: at how the story unfolded here. Yep, yeah it is.
Speaker 1: They just need they need to get back to where offensively,
Speaker 1: where they have that balance. Nicky said it early. You
Speaker 1: just can't put so much even though the quarterback is
Speaker 1: playing very well, you can't just keep piling it on
Speaker 1: him and say, and we did that with Tony Romo
Speaker 1: for thirteen fourteen years. It just kept piling on and
Speaker 1: piling on and piling on him, and then you had
Speaker 1: you know, it just was too much. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's where that's where you're at right now,
Speaker 1: and that's where the other tape Romo needs to pull
Speaker 1: out in case he has an inkling to go back
Speaker 1: out there. Just grab that twenty eleven season and see
Speaker 1: how he got beat up when you didn't have an
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, it'll say, yeah, Jim, let's go out
Speaker 1: for coffee. I ain't going anywhere. I appreciate you got
Speaker 1: dinner tonight. Yeah, he's too good in the booth too,
Speaker 1: know what, you know what, you know what he's a
Speaker 1: reminding me. And I haven't heard this, but this is
Speaker 1: what Switzer's doing. He's doing this coaches, h not corner coaches.
Speaker 1: They go to a casino in Oklahoma, imagine that, and
Speaker 1: it's like three of them and they watch the game
Speaker 1: as they're kind of commentating on it themselves, and people
Speaker 1: are tuning in online to listen to them. Well, that's
Speaker 1: the feeling I get with Romo, Right, he's like doing
Speaker 1: the game, but he's not playing, you know, mister broadcaster.
Speaker 1: It's like he's sitting on the couch with me. We're
Speaker 1: just shooting the bull on the game. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: he's really good at it, you know, and just get
Speaker 1: away from I think he says good stuff and he
Speaker 1: sees good stuff, but it's the casual delivery. Because too
Speaker 1: many guys that first start off in TV, they want
Speaker 1: to play mister TV man. It's like, this is what
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do and how you're supposed to say it.
Speaker 1: I like how he uses the tellustrator right before the
Speaker 1: snap too really fast. Yeah, and again actually circles where
Speaker 1: he's supposed to circle. There's not just a circle in
Speaker 1: space too. But you drop a dumb and dumber reference
Speaker 1: in the middle of an NFL game that good you're
Speaker 1: in You're good in my book. So what did you say?
Speaker 1: It was just a very subtle line that you have
Speaker 1: to be a huge fan of the movie. But that's
Speaker 1: why I asked what cracked me up? Because I was
Speaker 1: watching it. Well, it went, Rob, You're always good in
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Speaker 1: the way. No, I saw it on Sunday? Are you sure? Yes,
Speaker 1: you watch the ads when you watch the games. Not
Speaker 1: remember that one time that that Brian kind of teased
Speaker 1: us Mick and said, hey, does everyone like cold pizza?
Speaker 1: And we were like yes, and we thought we kind
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Speaker 1: games had I watched? I watched two at once, then
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Speaker 1: sitting next to Mickey in most press boxes, not usually
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Speaker 1: see him and we talk about it and he's very
Speaker 1: patient with me. Usually has headphones on and I'll tap
Speaker 1: him and he takes the headphones off. But I've would
Speaker 1: have given anything. You know. He's talking about watching coach
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Speaker 1: making you just sitting there on your coaches cabana. It's
Speaker 1: called it just hit me, you know, and to see
Speaker 1: what make you with money? Yeah, you have to zoo
Speaker 1: stuff on you. Shale tries to get you to do
Speaker 1: some honey dudes, and you're like, you could have seen
Speaker 1: me sale the San Francisco Washington game when the regular
Speaker 1: game finished and they went, sure we got we got, uh,
Speaker 1: what do they call it? Bonus coverage? San Francisco got
Speaker 1: So what's the word for the S word on? Man?
Speaker 1: So messed on? Yeah, yeah, it's second and ten. They're
Speaker 1: down twenty six twenty four DoD you guys see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty four, second and ten at the Washington forty.
Speaker 1: So they are like nearly close enough to try a
Speaker 1: fifty eight yard field. Go. I don't think Robbie gould
Speaker 1: to get out there. But there was snow any mi.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna throw heat throws. Bethard throws a slant
Speaker 1: to Pierre Garson, and they're running. The running back behind
Speaker 1: the slant and coming this way, and the linebacker that's
Speaker 1: trying to cover the running back runs into Garson. Garson
Speaker 1: didn't try to block him. He's trying to get two
Speaker 1: balls in the air. He's trying to get to the ball,
Speaker 1: and here comes the flag ten yards offensive interference that
Speaker 1: accused him of running a pick play when it wasn't
Speaker 1: a pick play, and you could watch it on I
Speaker 1: would have been beside myself. It was the It was
Speaker 1: the most horrendous call because if they got the ten yards,
Speaker 1: they're in field goal, or even if it was incomplete,
Speaker 1: at least they all they had to pick up was
Speaker 1: five more yards and it's a fifty three yard field goal.
Speaker 1: And and that's how close they were to winning. Anybody
Speaker 1: close every dang game. And anybody that thinks, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a cakewalk for the Cowboys, beware because the
Speaker 1: last five losses by no more than three points, and
Speaker 1: that one was two, and they should have been able
Speaker 1: to attempt a winning field goal in the last seconds
Speaker 1: on the road by the one. It's an NFL record,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yes, I saw that five straight three
Speaker 1: or less man. Yeah, so when you see things like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was talking to the TV because it was I
Speaker 1: would have it wasn't right. I mean, it was just horrible,
Speaker 1: bad job. Mickey Dolly, Zach Brown was the linebacker. He
Speaker 1: ran into good band. Alright, alright a pole. Yes, we
Speaker 1: spent most of last segment talking about the Cowboys running
Speaker 1: back situation. Close pole today, yikes, simple Cowboys best running
Speaker 1: back is blank, Darren McFadden, Alfred Morris or Rod Smith. Well,
Speaker 1: before you say that, we have some breaking news from Twitter.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, breaking fifth Circuit denise nfl PA his motion
Speaker 1: to recall the mandate, but says Union can still seek
Speaker 1: in bok E N space b A nc rehearing. So
Speaker 1: they're they're saying, basically, we're not in a hurry to
Speaker 1: get to it, so we are not giving you an
Speaker 1: injunction to allow him to play. So now it comes
Speaker 1: down to what happens in New York Ork. Yeah, yeah, well, okay,
Speaker 1: those in bank hearings are very rare, right, yes, yes, oh,
Speaker 1: actually what they they? Yeah? I think what did I see?
Speaker 1: There was two hundred request for him and only six
Speaker 1: ye got to be heard, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: many they overturned the decision. It sounds like it takes
Speaker 1: a lot of time and effort. Yeah, like, what's the
Speaker 1: timeline on something? You just said all the judges, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many judges. Say, there's ten judges
Speaker 1: in the court. I don't know how many of there are.
Speaker 1: You got to get all ten together? Yeah, at the
Speaker 1: same time. Well Rob not on vacation. Like the judge
Speaker 1: in in in New York is gone. Yeah, the lady
Speaker 1: judge Folia and so. Now, so she was appointed by
Speaker 1: Obama and the other guy, whatever his name is, who's
Speaker 1: gonna hear it now, was appointed by Bush. So you
Speaker 1: know you're such set about along party party lines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, is one gonna for the people or
Speaker 1: for the business? Yeah, we'll see how how that turns out. Which,
Speaker 1: by the way, they're meeting in New York to the
Speaker 1: league today. Oh, we're gonna get into that. But let's
Speaker 1: get to Rob's pole. Oh yeah, because I wanted to
Speaker 1: say that because now it's looking more and more likely.
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, he's only got one more shot shot, right,
Speaker 1: But let's get to Rob's holden. We can definitely get
Speaker 1: to the NFL Owners Meetings close pole Essentially, who would
Speaker 1: you pick to be the backup behind Zeke? Forty two
Speaker 1: percent said Alfred Morris, thirty seven percent said McFadden, twenty
Speaker 1: one percent said rod Smith. It is close, and I
Speaker 1: think that maybe Alfred Morris kind of edges out McFadden
Speaker 1: in that one simply because of his long run and
Speaker 1: what people have seen. It's very much what have you
Speaker 1: done for me lately? Sure, but I think you know
Speaker 1: the fact that rod Smith gets twenty one percent, I
Speaker 1: think that speaks to what we talked about last segment,
Speaker 1: that I think you could find a way to use
Speaker 1: all three of these guys and be productive. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that that's what you're gonna You're definitely gonna see that.
Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna supplement also too with some
Speaker 1: of your running game, maybe even with Ryan Switzer. I
Speaker 1: know it sounds crazy, but it might be two or
Speaker 1: three snaps, whether it's the jet sweep, whether it's putting
Speaker 1: him in the backfield, toss sweeps, crack tosses, whatever. So
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna have to piece this thing together
Speaker 1: for six weeks. They've got, you know, competent backs to
Speaker 1: do it. They just don't have the Now we'll see,
Speaker 1: they don't have the physical finisher. It might be it
Speaker 1: might be Smith, but they're gonna have to find a
Speaker 1: way to get back and recapture that identity that they
Speaker 1: once had running the football. About Keith Smith, Oh, Keith
Speaker 1: Smith used in the passing game and a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: in the San Francisco game last year, I watched some
Speaker 1: boot action, waggle action, throwing him the football in the
Speaker 1: flo got a first down out of it. I mean
Speaker 1: there's yeah, so that than shot yardage situations. Yeah, Keith
Speaker 1: Keith Smith is tough enough to do it. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to line him up and go yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But whoever it is, they cannot fall back into that
Speaker 1: where we saw two years ago, three years ago where
Speaker 1: third and one became a hold your breath down and
Speaker 1: last year it became like a no brainer. Even this year,
Speaker 1: go four on fourth and one. You're one of the
Speaker 1: you're one of the best teams in the league when
Speaker 1: it comes to running that ball in third and one,
Speaker 1: third and short. There's no doubt about it, no doubt
Speaker 1: who ran it? Was it last night? Procent tried to
Speaker 1: run it. Yeah, and they didn't hand it off again,
Speaker 1: he tried to run a bootleg. How about this, I'll
Speaker 1: just give you an example, just for my for my
Speaker 1: fourth and one conversions, Cowboys are first in the league.
Speaker 1: They've done it one hundred percent of the time. They've
Speaker 1: converted one hundred percent of time. League average is right
Speaker 1: at seventy percent. What do they have like four? Uh
Speaker 1: that I don't have the value? Yeah, they've got more
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, big game. Yeah, and it's and you
Speaker 1: don't see Jason Garrett hesitating either a lot of now
Speaker 1: twenty one you're going to talk about last night the
Speaker 1: Titans today there's six of ten on fourth down, so
Speaker 1: probably all the one guard ones they got. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: able to really work a balance between Derrick Henry and
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray over there. So we'll see, we'll see. But
Speaker 1: making you did hint at it. The NFL owners are
Speaker 1: meeting in New York, very close to the court. Well,
Speaker 1: Zeke's final decision will be made, but they're not really
Speaker 1: focused on Zeke. They're focused on much bigger manners. This
Speaker 1: matters this week and a lot to do with certain
Speaker 1: policy changes and different things like that. Jerry Jones, a
Speaker 1: big presence up there. Well, they listed NFL put out
Speaker 1: a release that listed the players that were there and
Speaker 1: the owners, and there was eleven owners and Jerry's name
Speaker 1: wasn't listed. I can't imagine he's not there. No, he's
Speaker 1: definitely there because some people saw him at the Yankees
Speaker 1: game last night. Yeah, maybe he just well, I'm just
Speaker 1: wasn't in the first meeting. I was like, heaking over
Speaker 1: your shoulder. They're making him look and it looks like
Speaker 1: they get a live or port from ESPN and they
Speaker 1: said that protesters were, uh were after him as he
Speaker 1: came into the meeting. So we'll see. Well, I think
Speaker 1: I think when Mickey and maybe I'm wrong, but I
Speaker 1: saw a list too, but that looked like the one
Speaker 1: that was discussing owners and players meeting on the National
Speaker 1: Anthem Decision policy. Yeah that's what Arry wasn't involved, but
Speaker 1: there's other meetings going around. Yeah, but I would imagine
Speaker 1: he's in on. I thought I thought he would be too.
Speaker 1: I thought he would be too. So two day assembly,
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. Yeah, Yeah, can I just finish
Speaker 1: up real quick on this tay too and offense third
Speaker 1: and one conversions eighty five point seven percent. Where is
Speaker 1: that rank that's tenth in the league. League average in one, Yeah,
Speaker 1: third and one. League average is league percentages sixty eight
Speaker 1: point nine. So think about that. Eighty five percent of
Speaker 1: a time you hand the ball that guy on third
Speaker 1: and one, you were going to get the first down
Speaker 1: a conversion. So and if not on fourth and one,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it. Yeah, there you go. If you're
Speaker 1: if you, if you if tempt it, if you're going
Speaker 1: to attempt it. Right, I have to use that stat today,
Speaker 1: and mccollumn unless you're going to use it that you
Speaker 1: take it from. You got it, man, you got it.
Speaker 1: There's footnotes, you know, you can put a little asters.
Speaker 1: I'll mention Brian, now you don't have to, Yeah, will,
Speaker 1: of course I will. It's a shame, but I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: this whole thing with the the you know, it's hey,
Speaker 1: it's good that the owners and the players are getting together.
Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, if you're going to have a meeting,
Speaker 1: get everybody involved, talk about what's going on. You've been
Speaker 1: to a few of these owners meetings. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: guys have two, I you know, but most recently you
Speaker 1: were at the one in Phoenix, Yes, Phoans, and you
Speaker 1: know they're long days for these guys. And even Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones has shared stories of these types of owners meetings
Speaker 1: before where there's been something of a hot topic that
Speaker 1: he needed to discuss, and no matter if he's in
Speaker 1: the meeting or not, he usually gets his opinions heard
Speaker 1: and everyone knows where the Dallas Cowboys stand. Absolutely. These
Speaker 1: meetings are a little different because there's there's about a
Speaker 1: dozen players that were invited or volunteered to go along
Speaker 1: with uh Demorris Smith, the NFLPA president, and the two
Speaker 1: people that are I guess executive vice presidents. Uh. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it listed the too, Yeah, An Kwon Bolden Uh, names
Speaker 1: that you would need recognize, Russell Okung, Kenny Stills, Um,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins, Chris Long, Eric Read, Josh Norman, Mark Hurlslick. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then they listed eleven owners. So that in this
Speaker 1: meeting with all the players and the NFLPA and normally
Speaker 1: the things that you know we've covered the NFL owners meetings, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's no players invited to that, and I don't think
Speaker 1: the NFLPA has invited either. No, this is a little different,
Speaker 1: so maybe they can all get together and come up
Speaker 1: with uh some I don't know that. They just have
Speaker 1: to come up with a plan, a better plan than
Speaker 1: what's going on right now. And we're heading right into
Speaker 1: the storm here this Sunday in San Francisco. Ye, So
Speaker 1: it always seems that way. It always seems that way.
Speaker 1: But you know, man, it's if this team was five
Speaker 1: and zero and different things. Yeah, it's a shame that
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of things that off the field
Speaker 1: that might be affecting the way they're playing on the field.
Speaker 1: I still think though, the bigger thing is the fact
Speaker 1: that on the field performance hasn't been as good. It's obvious,
Speaker 1: but but you know, the players, if that's their sanctuary
Speaker 1: to get on the field and play, then then we've
Speaker 1: seen not so good there. You know, you can't let
Speaker 1: the off the field things the track from how you're
Speaker 1: supposed to perform on the field. For the most part,
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing that every single player on this team
Speaker 1: has played poorly, but a large number of them have
Speaker 1: and that's and that's hurt the team. And that's why
Speaker 1: that you have the record that you have just simple executions.
Speaker 1: What you're saying, there's a lot I mean compared to
Speaker 1: last year, you can throw a blanket over it. I mean,
Speaker 1: had the coach has been perfect, no, had the players
Speaker 1: been perfect, No, but a lot of things, you know,
Speaker 1: and I keep saying this, I felt like they just
Speaker 1: threw away the last two games. I really do, you know,
Speaker 1: they they just have not played well enough when they
Speaker 1: needed to at the end of those football games to win.
Speaker 1: And you know what. And interviewing Witton for the Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett Show this weekend, his point was just that because
Speaker 1: we're two two minute drives, one on offense, one on
Speaker 1: defense away from being four and one right, and didn't execute,
Speaker 1: didn't didn't pull it off. And and that's how close
Speaker 1: it is. That margin for air in this league's very small.
Speaker 1: And that's why you're setting up the rest of our
Speaker 1: shows this week to actually be good when we can
Speaker 1: actually get into some real football talk. And you're talking
Speaker 1: about a team that's almost very similar to the I mean,
Speaker 1: they're gonna win one. That's that's why I was. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, Washington, we're gonna win one. Get your win
Speaker 1: out of the way. And this team's close to winning.
Speaker 1: And I got a feeling they're gonna have a little
Speaker 1: extra kicking him with this CJ. Bethard at quarterback. Just
Speaker 1: the way he played his nature, I was finest. Check
Speaker 1: it out tomorrow. He's one of my guys. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, under the radar guy tomorrow. He comes
Speaker 1: in the first time in the NFL and nineteen of
Speaker 1: thirty six for two hundred and forty five yards a
Speaker 1: forty five yard touchdown pass and the interception was at
Speaker 1: the end of the game in desperation time. Sounds next
Speaker 1: and he was down seventeen to nothing when he came in,
Speaker 1: and he scored seventeen straight points to get the game tied.
Speaker 1: And they were that close to that play that I
Speaker 1: explained to you of being able to win one. So
Speaker 1: you know how it is. You get a new guy
Speaker 1: in there, and it's a week of practice too, and
Speaker 1: now he because eating't practice last week right now, they
Speaker 1: just threw him in there and they liked what they
Speaker 1: saw to the point like on Tuesday, there's Monday, they're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's my quarterback. Yeah so my quarterback. Yeah absolutely, Well
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