WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Running Back Shuffle 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:07.800 This he is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:15.760 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as text play. 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:22.000 No your hosts, Mickey'spagnola, Brian brought Its, Taylor Stern and 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:27.000 Rob Phillips. Hello everyone, and welcome back to a regular 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.840 episode of Talking Cowboys as we dive into week seven 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:34.560 here at the Star in Frisco and the s WBC 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.280 Mortgage Studio, and we've we've still got lots to talk about. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.160 Even though the Cowboys haven't played in well over a week, 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.559 there's lots going on around here. And so before we 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.520 do that, though, how are you guys? I missed you guys. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.639 This should too ray to be back. That was instant. No, No, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.559 I was just I'm sorry. I was just its been 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.640 a while. Yeah. The text from Mickey every day were 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.920 so sweet. Things, wasn't it? Checking out? See if you 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.840 had a good bye week's like a blue heart emoji 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.600 from Mickey Usually what you do? I went up to 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.160 Maryland to see my good friend had surprised her for 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.839 a birthday. Well, what'd you do? I got a feeling 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:15.280 she did? Sury taken hell us two did brought us 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:19.440 went fishing out of town. No, I watched my Tigers 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:23.399 this weekend. You guys got to win. Yeah, there you go. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.160 I barely moved from the couch. Yeah, he's got to win. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:31.040 I would fishing in my neighborhood. Football baseball got into 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.480 the baseball yet resting saw at all. Yeah, well that's 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:38.240 what bye weeks are for. And the Cowboys did not rest. 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.399 It was a very very busy bye week here, most 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:45.679 doubtedly with different cuts. Nolan Carroll everything with Zeke and 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:50.880 Navarro Bowman. Anyway, Navarro Bowman no longer consideration. He has 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.880 decided to stay in the Bay Areas. Most everyone thought 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.280 he might with the Raiders. No surprise there, really no, 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.920 I didn't think so. Boy would be nice to have him. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.920 It helped Mickey's run defense, all of our hopefully. Yeah, um, 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:06.800 as long as he didn't have to get in coverage 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.079 from what I read, No, the barrier has got to 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.600 be a factor, right, it's seventeen hundred miles from Santa 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.519 Clara beating on that one in Twitter, I did not exactly, man, 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.440 It's more like forty like whatever, all right, it's not 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.200 seventeen hundred miles. The other thing. You got your point though. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.280 The other thing is three million bucks for one year. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:27.960 I don't know if the Cowboys would have been willing 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.240 to pay that the games. Yeah, they could have, but 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:33.240 money would have been a factor too, I think with 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.280 a guy who's twenty nine coming off. I mean he 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.960 had a killes injury last year, as y'all discussed yesterday, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.880 and a really bad knee injury two years before that. Yeah, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.760 not hurt again NY Cowboys in season? Right, Yeah, he 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.680 got hurt against KOs last year. Yeah, was the Cowboys. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:51.400 The playoff game was twenty January twenty fourteen. Right, Um, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.640 I don't know. Still would have been good to have guys, 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.120 some guys. Some guy in San Jose paper said he 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.359 can't get sideling to sideline and he's a sitting duck 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.680 and coverage on running backs and tight ends. Sounds like 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.600 the middle linebacker got right now. Yeah. Well, the thing 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.320 about him is though he's a physical point of attack player. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.960 I mean, if if you're going to run between the time, 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.880 I mean, if the ball was coming at him, he's 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.760 a sure tackler. Yeah, that's something he can do. We 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.160 talked about it yesterday. I wouldn't put him in coverage 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.480 if he's a two down players, he would be just fine. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.079 But you know, and I was looking at some of 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.400 the tweets and different questions that were coming in post 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.600 our discussion. An interesting one that we really haven't brought 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.600 up is did the Cowboys cut Cedric Thornton too soon? 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.760 You know, hindsight's twenty twenty and I don't know if 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.520 that's even hindsight twenty twenty. There if you agree or disagree, 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.840 if that was a good decision now seeing the run 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.320 defense in your depth there, that was his best trade 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:50.840 was stopping the run and he couldn't. Yeah, that's the issue. No, 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.400 I mean, you're right though, best trade, but Mickey's right too, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.440 Which is funny because it gives you some thought like, Okay, 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:01.280 could Cedric Thornton have helped? You know, but Cedric Thornton 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.920 wasn't doing the things well that he's supposed to do well. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.480 He wasn't the same player. No, he wasn't. In Philly. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.000 He wasn't. And that's and that's the that's the problem 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.400 you run into if you know, talk about cutting him early. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.960 It'd been nice for him to show up and say okay, 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:16.840 hey and training, Yeah, let's play the run a little 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:19.240 bit better. Let's you know the things that you're good at, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.640 let me see you do. And to Mickey's point, he didn't. Yeah, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.920 and I know I think it's I think it's bigger 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.640 than that. I really really do now in hindsight though, 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.720 I mean, if you knew that Stephen piet was going 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.359 to retire after five games, now you're kind of in 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.159 a spot where what do you do? Well, you just 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.120 tell David Irving to get out there and do what 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.839 he did the first time out? Again, is he a 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.920 full time nose tackle? And again and again he wasn't. 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.200 That game played a lot of it. Yeah, I mean 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.320 if he can play that he had more production in 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.839 one game than than Thornton had in ten games. Yeah. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.520 Thornton's best game was probably Cincinnati last year. But other 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.839 than that, he he had struggles. Well, Rob brings up 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.960 a good point sevenpia. He came in here and he 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:06.880 was really kind of like the bandage of losing Troll 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.600 McClain in free agency? Should the Cowboys have gone more 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.880 after Troll mcclin in free agency? Now, what do you 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.599 get paid by Washington Kentals? Perhaps our fabulous Roll mclin. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:21.160 You're asking about twenty something million. I'll find out it 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.320 was more than they felt like they needed to pay 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:29.039 for one technique who last year was good. Yeah, but 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.760 last year was probably his first real healthy season with 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.240 the team, just about true. So you have to factor 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.960 that kind of stuff in you're making the multi year 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.240 commitment to a guy. It's all hindsight, you know. And 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.000 we brought up a good point in our last full 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.599 show Tay that you know, these some of these free 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.279 agent moves have not worked out for this team, but 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.040 they're always hesitant to pay anybody in free agent Roe 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:53.640 McClain four years, twenty one million guaranteed at signing was 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.240 ten million, average five million a year. It's a lot 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.599 of money. It's a lot, it's a lot money. So 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.479 you know, just something to think about. But Navarro boment 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.960 kind of at least since a lot of guys have 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.240 been cut in different moves have been made in this season, 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:09.839 who was the first one that I thought of a 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.520 real consideration for the Dallas Cowboys. A lot of times, 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.160 you guys see these guys that get cut and I'm 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.600 sure you guys are all getting tweets should the Cowboys 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.640 pick this guy up? Right? And you guys are just 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:20.599 laughing at it. But this one was one to kind 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.320 of Okay, let's look at it. Let me I see this. 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.719 I don't want to throw dirt on a guy or 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.520 you know, be disrespectful. But do you? But do you? 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.920 I'm excited to hear what you here. Know, I'm thinking 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:36.320 about Crawford playing that playing the three. You're talking about 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.440 Jack Crawford or Tyron Crawford, and then Colin's moving over 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.280 to the one. Yeah, and what are you gonna do 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.480 with David Irving? Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:47.640 I don't know if David Irving would be my every down. Yeah, 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.200 I wonder about that. You want to put him at 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:53.160 right defensive end. I'm thinking of spots. I'm thinking of spots. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:56.080 I'm just not sure that putting. I'm trying to put 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:58.920 as much inside to help my linebackers as I can. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.400 It seems like that the guards and the centers are 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.800 kind of killing me at the linebacker spot right now. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:05.920 So I'm trying to put guys up that might be 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.320 better hold up guys inside. David Irvin is a slinky 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.000 kind of a player, and you know gets you know, 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.200 he could get tall, guy gets small gets squared. You know, 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.080 he's he's really a pass rusher, that's what he really is. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.480 He's a He's a good pass rusher from the inside. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.080 So if I'm having trouble stopping the run at least 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.119 on first and second down, do I might think about 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.240 putting more inside. I think that you know, you talk 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.880 about McClain and not signing him, and then people on 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.800 the other side will say, well, why did you give 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.360 Crawford all that money? See, that's that's you know, it 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.520 appears to me that there has been some imbalance on 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.720 who you pay, who you don't pay, who's good enough 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.440 to be paid? You know that that's I think that's 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:54.560 where they're missing, missing the evaluation right now because because 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.200 to me, if you're going to Crawford, you know, they 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.160 paid him as a three technique and gave him a 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.840 gave him a good chunk of money, and now what 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.160 he's doing, he's playing right defensive end for you. So 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.800 that's it. There's a lot of evaluation it's going on 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.960 that that doesn't look like it's it's all lining up 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.360 like they thought it should line up. What about him 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.360 playing one technique? I would play him at the three 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:25.280 myself because fans you're talking about Tyrone Crawford playing it. Yeah, yeah, okay, 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:26.920 you know, I don't I don't have a problem in that. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.960 I just to me if I could keep him on 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.120 the edge, because I've known he has a history of 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.880 shoulder problems and things like that. He tends to get 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.200 kind of beat up as you go along. So if 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.640 you keep him on the shoulder of the guard, you know, 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.000 maybe it's just playing that one gap right there, not 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.520 having to take on a center and a guard playing 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:52.040 an inside technique they need, they need Malie Collins to 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.319 play better too. Well, you really only have one true 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.280 nose tackle left. That's Brian Price, right. Yeah, yeah, And 0:08:58.320 --> 0:08:59.760 I don't know how many snaps you want to give 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.640 him on a weekly basis. So I'm with you on Irving. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.400 I think he's more of a move around guy. Maybe 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.679 he's you know, he's a pass rusher tackle in the 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.920 nickel and sub packages. But I don't know. If I 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.080 don't know, if run defense, he's gonna the guy you 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.080 want to hold up for base defense is basically a 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.760 sub package today. That's true, that's true. I mean, how 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.760 many snaps do you think they played that last game 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.520 with three lass. Well, then if teams are going to 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.520 get him in sub packages and run on them, then 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.800 they're going to be hurting. Well that's the problem right now. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.000 That then, that's what I'm saying, though, you could play 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.040 Crawford as an inside technique at least maybe get something 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.760 as a pass rusher plus a run defender. That's my 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.640 only that's my only thought right there. Well, I like 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.439 what you guys are saying, Hey, you're giving option, you 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.520 better figure out how to stop the run that that's 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:45.400 gonna be. And like if you move him inside and 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.280 who's playing right defensive end which they haven't found. Oh long, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.440 we've said they don't have a right defense I know, 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.080 and so be better? I mean, are you better off? 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.160 Are you better off getting gashed in the run or 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.880 not having a right defensive end? Fan question, move up, 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:03.480 Lewis Neil, could you throw throw taco in the middle? Now? 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.560 See now, Rob, you've asked that question about him playing 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.880 some nickel tackle right and the nickel Yeah, yeah, but 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.600 he's you know, he's a two eighty, but he sure 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.000 doesn't look it. Yeah, let's say he's about two six. Yeah, 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.680 And and there's been some times where he's actually looked 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.880 pretty good when they've used him in some rush stuff. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.000 I know at training camp when they worked him with 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.840 when they worked him with Lawrence, there were some things 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.000 in some preseason games he wasn't bad. I don't know 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.840 if you want to make a steady diet, living or 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.960 whatever you want to say. Him playing as a three technique, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.800 you know, you better figure out you you need somebody, 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.080 You need something to at least keep these centers and 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.360 guards off these linebackers. That's been a big, big problem, 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:46.400 yeah problem, and two games out with Shaun Lee it 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:50.280 was a very glaring when you do make mistakes and 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.920 you don't hold guys up. He's the one guy that 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.280 can run and make it, can avoid. I will say this, Yeah, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.720 I want to see this defense with Shaun Lee and 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.240 Anthony Hitchens in the game at the same time, because 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.360 we have not seen that yet this year. And Brian 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.480 makes a good point. I mean, everything starts up front, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.319 but those two guys flown to the ball. I think 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.800 will help this run defense for sure, It should, it should. Well, 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.920 just some thoughts there, and now we have to prepare 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.600 this team without Ezekiel Elliott. Obviously we've all been on 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.880 different podcasts since the news came out Thursday afternoon, and yes, 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:26.760 more news came out yesterday, not anything surprising or unexpected, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.120 but they did reach out to reappeal what court was 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:33.600 at in the Fifth Court again Fifth Court. Yes, actually 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:38.560 they're doing it both both. They've already applied a motion 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.679 for a temporary restraining order with the Southern District of 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:46.320 New York along with the Fifth Circuit Court to hurry 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.920 up and get a stay until they decide if they're 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:53.200 gonna hear the new word that I learned un bunk 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.560 hearing where instead of a three judge panel that in 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:02.280 bank is it's spilled a C spelled umbunk? Is that 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.719 he said, I just said it French. Oh unless our 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.760 guy from them, yeah, will tell us on B A 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.640 N C. Yeah, I think we said in bank in 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.400 the bank. Yeah, I don't know. We're from Texas, Yeah, 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.040 we're not. It was being filed in New Orleans, so 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.120 I put a little French Napoleonic code mayberench twist on. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.000 I like it. I like it have some fun. Anyway, 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.880 that would mean the whole all the judges in that 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.440 circuit would actually listen to what they have to say. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.679 So they haven't given up yet and probably find out 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.360 at some point, maybe today, since they applied for emergency 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.760 motion to see if they get a stay, which means 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.160 which would allow him to play until they hear one 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.000 or the other case. Are you talking about the tro 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.120 in New York or the hearing, well both. It's a 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:54.520 hearing for the TRO today right one Central time, and 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.640 they've also asked the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans to 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:01.000 hurry up and give him a stay until they decide 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.240 if they're going to hear the entire court judges in 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.840 the court case. I think it's more confusing by the week. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:12.480 There's a lot of different manures and what's happening. Just 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.240 to make it simple, what they're trying to do is 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:20.120 get to a point where a court listens to their 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:27.800 lawsuit against the NFL for a inherently unfair arbitration case 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:33.600 which the judge in Sherman ruled in their favor. The 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.440 NFL is just playing legal ease with this whole thing 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.719 to block ever getting to that lawsuit. They don't want 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:44.040 to go to court and on that lawsuit. And if 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.800 you got one judge that agreed with you, who knows 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.800 if you get another judge degree with you, and they 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.560 got one judge in New Orleans to agree with them. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.840 So that's why they keep fishing here to see if 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:58.000 they can finally get this thing hurt in court. And 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.640 I don't know if they'll ever get there. And you know, 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.560 if they do, when does it happen, you know, to 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.440 do they get to stay and then it happens in 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.439 the offseason, you know, I think that's the shot they 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.320 want to take. I couldn't play football and do this 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:17.240 right now. I don't know if I could. He's very 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.320 mentally strong. You have to be as a football player. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.240 You have to let things go. I have a short 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.600 term memory, but I'm sorry. I mean, I can barely 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.760 understand it, and I have to speak on it every day, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.120 you know, on this podcast just in general talkings, and 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.360 I can barely understand. Granted, he has a lot of 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.520 very helpful resources around him, a lot of people who 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:39.920 are handling things that are completely out of his hands. 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.960 But it's your life, you know, it's your life on 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.000 the line. We've had this debate and there's no need 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.400 to really get into a debate on it. But you're 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.480 surprised that he didn't sue her for deformation. Can't I 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:59.160 mean legally grounds to clear his name. I don't know 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:04.040 from a a legal standpoint, defamation if the case never 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.760 went to court. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So he 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.560 it's the Court of NFL is trying this case, right, 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:15.400 the Court of NFL is calling him a domestic violence abuser. Well, 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.920 and that's where this whole thing boils down to, really, 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.200 is that this should sue. This whole thing is sitting 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.080 to clear your name. It's collectively bargained, you know. It's 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.440 it's in the CBA that they can hand down a suspension. 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.480 And that's fine. But I'm not saying it's it's okay. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.440 I'm just saying that's ultimately, you know, the Brady thing. 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.000 That's why players have trouble winning these cases. What's going 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.720 on with Jarvis Landry. Somebody was tweeting at us about 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.960 how this is a very similar situation that he's going 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:41.920 into and I need to look further into that. I 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.720 don't know his case. I got too many cases. I'm 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.680 dealing with it right now. That's the thing, is like 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.640 I need to look into because somebody was like, this 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.080 is the exact same thing that's happening to Jarvis Landry 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.960 and no one's focusing on It's like, we'll see what happens. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.240 Remember this didn't get focused on for almost a year. Yeah, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.600 it's a year and later you're right. Bottom line, he's 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.920 on the reserve suspend list and he's not he's not 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:07.600 allowed to be here. Is that correct? Yes, what I 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.200 understand that's per the rules of the suspension. So sure 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.800 it's tough. I mean, what he's away from the facility. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:14.920 What if he gets an injunction, then he's, like you said, Tay, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.080 like the mindset you gotta it's this herky jerky thing, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.880 then he's playing football again. Potentially. It's it's strange, you know, 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.160 and you guys know this. You guys have all played sports. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.880 Sports is very routine organized. I mean, this team is 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.000 one of the best teams to be very structured and 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.560 at least that I've been around, very structured things, say 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.480 the same you know what's happening. Coach wears the same 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.280 clothes every day. I mean, you know, it's very structured, 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.760 and so these guys are very trained to be like 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.680 where do I need to be, what time do I 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:44.920 need to be there? How long? What am I doing, 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.320 what are we looking at? What am I watching? And 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.960 then it's like, well wait until one thirty and then 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.160 maybe and now you've got a thirty minute drive. I 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:54.840 don't know where he lives, but you know what I'm saying, 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:58.400 like these don't get here fast? Yeah here you will. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.400 Let me ask you this. If he doesn't act us 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.120 all week and gets his stay on Friday, do you 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.920 think he plays? That's my question is is the routine things? 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.560 Because Garrett says there's no hard fashed rules about injury. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.960 So I mean, do you go ahead and if you 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.480 got veteran running backs? Yeah, Morrison McFadden, if you had 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.480 to go Smith, you could throw him. And there's a 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.520 veteran guy. Well, I like what you're saying, and let's 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.480 hold that until after our first break because I think 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.480 there's more to get into that and talking about. Okay, 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.320 so say this happens, Let's go into that scenario right 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.600 after this break. We the entertainment loving people want a 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.560 smartphone built for us. 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