1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as text play. 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: No your hosts, Mickey'spagnola, Brian brought Its, Taylor Stern and 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Hello everyone, and welcome back to a regular 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: episode of Talking Cowboys as we dive into week seven 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: here at the Star in Frisco and the s WBC 7 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Mortgage Studio, and we've we've still got lots to talk about. 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: Even though the Cowboys haven't played in well over a week, 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: there's lots going on around here. And so before we 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: do that, though, how are you guys? I missed you guys. 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: This should too ray to be back. That was instant. No, No, 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: I was just I'm sorry. I was just its been 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah. The text from Mickey every day were 14 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: so sweet. Things, wasn't it? Checking out? See if you 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: had a good bye week's like a blue heart emoji 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: from Mickey Usually what you do? I went up to 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Maryland to see my good friend had surprised her for 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: a birthday. Well, what'd you do? I got a feeling 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: she did? Sury taken hell us two did brought us 20 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: went fishing out of town. No, I watched my Tigers 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: this weekend. You guys got to win. Yeah, there you go. 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: I barely moved from the couch. Yeah, he's got to win. 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: I would fishing in my neighborhood. Football baseball got into 24 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: the baseball yet resting saw at all. Yeah, well that's 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: what bye weeks are for. And the Cowboys did not rest. 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: It was a very very busy bye week here, most 27 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: doubtedly with different cuts. Nolan Carroll everything with Zeke and 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman. Anyway, Navarro Bowman no longer consideration. He has 29 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: decided to stay in the Bay Areas. Most everyone thought 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: he might with the Raiders. No surprise there, really no, 31 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: I didn't think so. Boy would be nice to have him. 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: It helped Mickey's run defense, all of our hopefully. Yeah, um, 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: as long as he didn't have to get in coverage 34 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: from what I read, No, the barrier has got to 35 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: be a factor, right, it's seventeen hundred miles from Santa 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: Clara beating on that one in Twitter, I did not exactly, man, 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: It's more like forty like whatever, all right, it's not 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: seventeen hundred miles. The other thing. You got your point though. 39 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: The other thing is three million bucks for one year. 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Cowboys would have been willing 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: to pay that the games. Yeah, they could have, but 42 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: money would have been a factor too, I think with 43 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: a guy who's twenty nine coming off. I mean he 44 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: had a killes injury last year, as y'all discussed yesterday, 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: and a really bad knee injury two years before that. Yeah, 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: not hurt again NY Cowboys in season? Right, Yeah, he 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: got hurt against KOs last year. Yeah, was the Cowboys. 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: The playoff game was twenty January twenty fourteen. Right, Um, 49 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Still would have been good to have guys, 50 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: some guys. Some guy in San Jose paper said he 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: can't get sideling to sideline and he's a sitting duck 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: and coverage on running backs and tight ends. Sounds like 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: the middle linebacker got right now. Yeah. Well, the thing 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: about him is though he's a physical point of attack player. 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're going to run between the time, 56 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if the ball was coming at him, he's 57 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: a sure tackler. Yeah, that's something he can do. We 58 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. I wouldn't put him in coverage 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: if he's a two down players, he would be just fine. 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: But you know, and I was looking at some of 61 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: the tweets and different questions that were coming in post 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: our discussion. An interesting one that we really haven't brought 63 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: up is did the Cowboys cut Cedric Thornton too soon? 64 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: You know, hindsight's twenty twenty and I don't know if 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: that's even hindsight twenty twenty. There if you agree or disagree, 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: if that was a good decision now seeing the run 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: defense in your depth there, that was his best trade 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: was stopping the run and he couldn't. Yeah, that's the issue. No, 69 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you're right though, best trade, but Mickey's right too, 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: Which is funny because it gives you some thought like, Okay, 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: could Cedric Thornton have helped? You know, but Cedric Thornton 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: wasn't doing the things well that he's supposed to do well. 73 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: He wasn't the same player. No, he wasn't. In Philly. 74 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't. And that's and that's the that's the problem 75 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: you run into if you know, talk about cutting him early. 76 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: It'd been nice for him to show up and say okay, 77 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: hey and training, Yeah, let's play the run a little 78 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: bit better. Let's you know the things that you're good at, 79 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: let me see you do. And to Mickey's point, he didn't. Yeah, 80 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: and I know I think it's I think it's bigger 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: than that. I really really do now in hindsight though, 82 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: I mean, if you knew that Stephen piet was going 83 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: to retire after five games, now you're kind of in 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: a spot where what do you do? Well, you just 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: tell David Irving to get out there and do what 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: he did the first time out? Again, is he a 87 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: full time nose tackle? And again and again he wasn't. 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: That game played a lot of it. Yeah, I mean 89 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: if he can play that he had more production in 90 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: one game than than Thornton had in ten games. Yeah. 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Thornton's best game was probably Cincinnati last year. But other 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: than that, he he had struggles. Well, Rob brings up 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: a good point sevenpia. He came in here and he 94 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: was really kind of like the bandage of losing Troll 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: McClain in free agency? Should the Cowboys have gone more 96 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: after Troll mcclin in free agency? Now, what do you 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: get paid by Washington Kentals? Perhaps our fabulous Roll mclin. 98 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: You're asking about twenty something million. I'll find out it 99 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: was more than they felt like they needed to pay 100 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: for one technique who last year was good. Yeah, but 101 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: last year was probably his first real healthy season with 102 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: the team, just about true. So you have to factor 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in you're making the multi year 104 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: commitment to a guy. It's all hindsight, you know. And 105 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: we brought up a good point in our last full 106 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: show Tay that you know, these some of these free 107 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: agent moves have not worked out for this team, but 108 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: they're always hesitant to pay anybody in free agent Roe 109 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: McClain four years, twenty one million guaranteed at signing was 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: ten million, average five million a year. It's a lot 111 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: of money. It's a lot, it's a lot money. So 112 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: you know, just something to think about. But Navarro boment 113 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of at least since a lot of guys have 114 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: been cut in different moves have been made in this season, 115 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: who was the first one that I thought of a 116 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: real consideration for the Dallas Cowboys. A lot of times, 117 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: you guys see these guys that get cut and I'm 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: sure you guys are all getting tweets should the Cowboys 119 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: pick this guy up? Right? And you guys are just 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: laughing at it. But this one was one to kind 121 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: of Okay, let's look at it. Let me I see this. 122 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to throw dirt on a guy or 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, be disrespectful. But do you? But do you? 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear what you here. Know, I'm thinking 125 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: about Crawford playing that playing the three. You're talking about 126 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Jack Crawford or Tyron Crawford, and then Colin's moving over 127 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: to the one. Yeah, and what are you gonna do 128 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: with David Irving? Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, 129 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if David Irving would be my every down. Yeah, 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: I wonder about that. You want to put him at 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: right defensive end. I'm thinking of spots. I'm thinking of spots. 132 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that putting. I'm trying to put 133 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: as much inside to help my linebackers as I can. 134 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: It seems like that the guards and the centers are 135 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: kind of killing me at the linebacker spot right now. 136 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to put guys up that might be 137 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: better hold up guys inside. David Irvin is a slinky 138 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: kind of a player, and you know gets you know, 139 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: he could get tall, guy gets small gets squared. You know, 140 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: he's he's really a pass rusher, that's what he really is. 141 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: He's a He's a good pass rusher from the inside. 142 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: So if I'm having trouble stopping the run at least 143 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 1: on first and second down, do I might think about 144 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: putting more inside. I think that you know, you talk 145 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: about McClain and not signing him, and then people on 146 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: the other side will say, well, why did you give 147 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Crawford all that money? See, that's that's you know, it 148 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: appears to me that there has been some imbalance on 149 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: who you pay, who you don't pay, who's good enough 150 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: to be paid? You know that that's I think that's 151 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: where they're missing, missing the evaluation right now because because 152 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: to me, if you're going to Crawford, you know, they 153 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: paid him as a three technique and gave him a 154 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: gave him a good chunk of money, and now what 155 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: he's doing, he's playing right defensive end for you. So 156 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: that's it. There's a lot of evaluation it's going on 157 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: that that doesn't look like it's it's all lining up 158 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: like they thought it should line up. What about him 159 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: playing one technique? I would play him at the three 160 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: myself because fans you're talking about Tyrone Crawford playing it. Yeah, yeah, okay, 161 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't have a problem in that. 162 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I just to me if I could keep him on 163 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: the edge, because I've known he has a history of 164 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: shoulder problems and things like that. He tends to get 165 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of beat up as you go along. So if 166 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: you keep him on the shoulder of the guard, you know, 167 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's just playing that one gap right there, not 168 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: having to take on a center and a guard playing 169 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: an inside technique they need, they need Malie Collins to 170 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: play better too. Well, you really only have one true 171 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: nose tackle left. That's Brian Price, right. Yeah, yeah, And 172 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how many snaps you want to give 173 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: him on a weekly basis. So I'm with you on Irving. 174 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: I think he's more of a move around guy. Maybe 175 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a pass rusher tackle in the 176 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: nickel and sub packages. But I don't know. If I 177 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: don't know, if run defense, he's gonna the guy you 178 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: want to hold up for base defense is basically a 179 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: sub package today. That's true, that's true. I mean, how 180 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: many snaps do you think they played that last game 181 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: with three lass. Well, then if teams are going to 182 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: get him in sub packages and run on them, then 183 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: they're going to be hurting. Well that's the problem right now. 184 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: That then, that's what I'm saying, though, you could play 185 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: Crawford as an inside technique at least maybe get something 186 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher plus a run defender. That's my 187 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: only that's my only thought right there. Well, I like 188 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: what you guys are saying, Hey, you're giving option, you 189 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: better figure out how to stop the run that that's 190 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: gonna be. And like if you move him inside and 191 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: who's playing right defensive end which they haven't found. Oh long, 192 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: we've said they don't have a right defense I know, 193 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: and so be better? I mean, are you better off? 194 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Are you better off getting gashed in the run or 195 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: not having a right defensive end? Fan question, move up, 196 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: Lewis Neil, could you throw throw taco in the middle? Now? 197 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: See now, Rob, you've asked that question about him playing 198 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: some nickel tackle right and the nickel Yeah, yeah, but 199 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a two eighty, but he sure 200 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: doesn't look it. Yeah, let's say he's about two six. Yeah, 201 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: And and there's been some times where he's actually looked 202 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: pretty good when they've used him in some rush stuff. 203 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: I know at training camp when they worked him with 204 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: when they worked him with Lawrence, there were some things 205 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: in some preseason games he wasn't bad. I don't know 206 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: if you want to make a steady diet, living or 207 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. Him playing as a three technique, 208 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, you better figure out you you need somebody, 209 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: You need something to at least keep these centers and 210 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: guards off these linebackers. That's been a big, big problem, 211 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: yeah problem, and two games out with Shaun Lee it 212 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: was a very glaring when you do make mistakes and 213 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: you don't hold guys up. He's the one guy that 214 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: can run and make it, can avoid. I will say this, Yeah, 215 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: I want to see this defense with Shaun Lee and 216 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchens in the game at the same time, because 217 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: we have not seen that yet this year. And Brian 218 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: makes a good point. I mean, everything starts up front, 219 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: but those two guys flown to the ball. I think 220 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: will help this run defense for sure, It should, it should. Well, 221 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: just some thoughts there, and now we have to prepare 222 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: this team without Ezekiel Elliott. Obviously we've all been on 223 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: different podcasts since the news came out Thursday afternoon, and yes, 224 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: more news came out yesterday, not anything surprising or unexpected, 225 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: but they did reach out to reappeal what court was 226 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: at in the Fifth Court again Fifth Court. Yes, actually 227 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: they're doing it both both. They've already applied a motion 228 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: for a temporary restraining order with the Southern District of 229 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: New York along with the Fifth Circuit Court to hurry 230 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: up and get a stay until they decide if they're 231 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: gonna hear the new word that I learned un bunk 232 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: hearing where instead of a three judge panel that in 233 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: bank is it's spilled a C spelled umbunk? Is that 234 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 1: he said, I just said it French. Oh unless our 235 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: guy from them, yeah, will tell us on B A 236 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: N C. Yeah, I think we said in bank in 237 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: the bank. Yeah, I don't know. We're from Texas, Yeah, 238 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: we're not. It was being filed in New Orleans, so 239 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: I put a little French Napoleonic code mayberench twist on. 240 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it have some fun. Anyway, 241 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: that would mean the whole all the judges in that 242 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: circuit would actually listen to what they have to say. 243 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: So they haven't given up yet and probably find out 244 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: at some point, maybe today, since they applied for emergency 245 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: motion to see if they get a stay, which means 246 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: which would allow him to play until they hear one 247 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: or the other case. Are you talking about the tro 248 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: in New York or the hearing, well both. It's a 249 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: hearing for the TRO today right one Central time, and 250 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: they've also asked the Fifth Circuit in New Orleans to 251 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: hurry up and give him a stay until they decide 252 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: if they're going to hear the entire court judges in 253 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: the court case. I think it's more confusing by the week. 254 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different manures and what's happening. Just 255 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: to make it simple, what they're trying to do is 256 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: get to a point where a court listens to their 257 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: lawsuit against the NFL for a inherently unfair arbitration case 258 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: which the judge in Sherman ruled in their favor. The 259 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: NFL is just playing legal ease with this whole thing 260 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: to block ever getting to that lawsuit. They don't want 261 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: to go to court and on that lawsuit. And if 262 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: you got one judge that agreed with you, who knows 263 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: if you get another judge degree with you, and they 264 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: got one judge in New Orleans to agree with them. 265 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: So that's why they keep fishing here to see if 266 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: they can finally get this thing hurt in court. And 267 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll ever get there. And you know, 268 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: if they do, when does it happen, you know, to 269 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: do they get to stay and then it happens in 270 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: the offseason, you know, I think that's the shot they 271 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: want to take. I couldn't play football and do this 272 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: right now. I don't know if I could. He's very 273 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: mentally strong. You have to be as a football player. 274 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: You have to let things go. I have a short 275 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: term memory, but I'm sorry. I mean, I can barely 276 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: understand it, and I have to speak on it every day, 277 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, on this podcast just in general talkings, and 278 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: I can barely understand. Granted, he has a lot of 279 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: very helpful resources around him, a lot of people who 280 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: are handling things that are completely out of his hands. 281 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: But it's your life, you know, it's your life on 282 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: the line. We've had this debate and there's no need 283 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: to really get into a debate on it. But you're 284 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: surprised that he didn't sue her for deformation. Can't I 285 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: mean legally grounds to clear his name. I don't know 286 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: from a a legal standpoint, defamation if the case never 287 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: went to court. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So he 288 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: it's the Court of NFL is trying this case, right, 289 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: the Court of NFL is calling him a domestic violence abuser. Well, 290 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: and that's where this whole thing boils down to, really, 291 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: is that this should sue. This whole thing is sitting 292 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: to clear your name. It's collectively bargained, you know. It's 293 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: it's in the CBA that they can hand down a suspension. 294 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: And that's fine. But I'm not saying it's it's okay. 295 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that's ultimately, you know, the Brady thing. 296 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: That's why players have trouble winning these cases. What's going 297 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: on with Jarvis Landry. Somebody was tweeting at us about 298 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: how this is a very similar situation that he's going 299 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: into and I need to look further into that. I 300 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: don't know his case. I got too many cases. I'm 301 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: dealing with it right now. That's the thing, is like 302 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I need to look into because somebody was like, this 303 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: is the exact same thing that's happening to Jarvis Landry 304 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: and no one's focusing on It's like, we'll see what happens. 305 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: Remember this didn't get focused on for almost a year. Yeah, 306 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: it's a year and later you're right. Bottom line, he's 307 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: on the reserve suspend list and he's not he's not 308 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: allowed to be here. Is that correct? Yes, what I 309 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: understand that's per the rules of the suspension. So sure 310 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: it's tough. I mean, what he's away from the facility. 311 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: What if he gets an injunction, then he's, like you said, Tay, 312 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: like the mindset you gotta it's this herky jerky thing, 313 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: then he's playing football again. Potentially. It's it's strange, you know, 314 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: and you guys know this. You guys have all played sports. 315 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: Sports is very routine organized. I mean, this team is 316 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: one of the best teams to be very structured and 317 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: at least that I've been around, very structured things, say 318 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the same you know what's happening. Coach wears the same 319 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: clothes every day. I mean, you know, it's very structured, 320 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: and so these guys are very trained to be like 321 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: where do I need to be, what time do I 322 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: need to be there? How long? What am I doing, 323 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: what are we looking at? What am I watching? And 324 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: then it's like, well wait until one thirty and then 325 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: maybe and now you've got a thirty minute drive. I 326 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: don't know where he lives, but you know what I'm saying, 327 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: like these don't get here fast? Yeah here you will. 328 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. If he doesn't act us 329 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: all week and gets his stay on Friday, do you 330 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: think he plays? That's my question is is the routine things? 331 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Because Garrett says there's no hard fashed rules about injury. 332 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, do you go ahead and if you 333 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: got veteran running backs? Yeah, Morrison McFadden, if you had 334 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: to go Smith, you could throw him. And there's a 335 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: veteran guy. 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Absolutely? 396 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: If he practiced on Friday, No, he he misses that thing. 397 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: He's likely going to have to fly to San Francisco. 398 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: Say on Saturday. Say that happens. Ye? I like that. UM, 399 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, because the hard part would be hadn't 400 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: been here for anything, true like meetings through to the ball, 401 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: and now there's nothing to say. Somebody, one of his teammates, 402 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: can't email him. Yeah, hey, dear friends, let it catch up, 403 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: keep hey Dak, keep him in tune of what's going on. Sure, 404 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any prohibition against that. I hated 405 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: prohibition alive during that I hated prohibition. Then when I 406 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: wasn't alive, a lot of people did too. That's why 407 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: if I was alive, Mickey, I'd have hated prose. That's 408 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: why the basements were very important. Elliott nest and I 409 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: would not. Elliott, here's been in jail. That's right, l 410 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: I've been prohibition me and the drops greatness. I would 411 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: if he didn't find out till Saturday after the team left, 412 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 1: then now stay home about Friday. If he finds out 413 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: on Friday and he can get out here and do something, 414 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: I'd say, yes, absolutely. Oh, I like what you're saying. 415 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: And Mickey, I think that's a good point because sound 416 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: logical right there. Well, does the team think, Okay, you know, 417 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: we don't find out he has to fly do all 418 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: this stuff. His mind's been everywhere this week. Do we 419 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: give him this week to kind of rest and get 420 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: him back next week, and then this week they have 421 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity against a team that hasn't been doing very hot. 422 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: Not saying that this is a team they could just 423 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: walk in there and steam roll. I'm just saying, you know, 424 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: is this a team that they could test out and see? Like, 425 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: what do we have without Zeke? Well, here's a good 426 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: thing from what I can detect from these courts and 427 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: these judges. They bake it basically have bankers hours. They 428 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: do nine to five Monday through Friday. I don't think 429 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: what did officials? Anything's not coming down on Saturday. Right, 430 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: they're done, They're they're already happier. They have Yeah, they're 431 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: a prohibition so elliot, So I would think sometime by Friday, 432 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: and they hope to find something out today. We'll see 433 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: what happens. Let me ask you a ruling from the bench, 434 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: get us stay you know, get a temporary injunction. Okay, 435 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: hello Ward in New York? Yeah? Hello? Would this stay last? Though? 436 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: Is this a one week thing that we're gonna happen? Well, 437 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: they would, I would imagine weeks to stay last until 438 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: they can get to the case, right, but he could 439 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: keep playing as long as they right. They would tell 440 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. Okay, you just get over this is my 441 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: last study that the week one when we were talking 442 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: about this same thing happened data hearing week one during 443 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: the week tro I think it was a two week 444 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: deal or fourteen day type thing. Again, I left my 445 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: law to Grea at home until they actually heard the case. Yeah. 446 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: And then they heard the case and said, okay, yeah, 447 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: we're over ruling. He can play until the lawsuits hurt. 448 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: And that's why they went to the Fifth Circuit Court 449 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: in New Orleans to say, whoa, wait a minute, he 450 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have jurisdiction to do that, and they jumped the 451 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: gun to file the lawsuit. And then they said, yes, 452 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: that's the case. So yeah, it's been a jurisdiction. Yeah. 453 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, no one, no one has ruled on the 454 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: validity of the of what happened his suspension or what 455 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: happened during the arbitration. No one's ruled on that right. 456 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: They have never got to that. Yeah, that's the sad 457 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: part of this whole deal. There are more roadblocks. I 458 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: wonder if there's another court of appeals we don't know about. 459 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: Probably there's more courts out here than summer league basketball. 460 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: You would have been a great judge, Mickey, judge, Mickey 461 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: all rise, like, let's just cut to the chase. Let's 462 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: get to it. Yeah, let's quit that. I like those judges. 463 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: That's what they're fishing for to find one. Yeah. Yeah, 464 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: I like those judges. Let's just point blank tell me 465 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: what's going on, Mickey, just in what you know? And 466 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: Rob and you guys have followed this a lot more. 467 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: I thank Taylor. You're trying to jump in there when 468 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: you can't. I I just haven't. I just whatever happens happen. 469 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: You're watching tape. Yeah, whatever happens happens. But is it? 470 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: But there's an all likelihood he's gonna lose in New 471 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: York right from what we not. It's not a favorable jurisdiction. 472 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: Like we thought he was gonna win in New Orleans. 473 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna lose in New York, right, So we're wrong 474 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: about New York too. Probably. Well, I mean they I 475 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: don't know if this is a sign, but I mean 476 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: they started off the weekend trying to keep this thing 477 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: in Texas. So is that a sign that they don't 478 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence there? I don't know. Yes, 479 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: yes they have, but they have filed in New York, 480 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: so yes, we'll see. I mean they do have trying 481 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: to avoid that, but they do have for precedence though 482 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: in Texas they had a judge rule in his favor, 483 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: you had one dissenting judge? Is that how you say it? 484 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: In New Orleans? So I mean maybe New York looks 485 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: at that. It's two to two right now. Yeah, you're right, 486 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: it is a pro it's in the NFL's backyard for sure. Well, Bran, 487 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: you know that kind of plays into what we should 488 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: probably talk about next. Well, let's say you know he's 489 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: not so yeah, many things, we guys, We just told 490 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: you everything that could possibly happen very well, still could 491 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: play this weekend, but most likely not. So with that 492 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: being said, you've got four backs on this team that 493 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: could help you. Two fullbacks in Keith Smith and Rod Smith, 494 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: and then you got Alfred Morris and Darren McFadden as 495 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: your guys. Obviously, Darren McFadden has been inactive thus far, 496 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: but most believing now that was to keep him fresh, right, 497 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: So what do you do you know, does Darren McFadden 498 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: and he's your starter now over Morris? Or is there 499 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: going to be more of a discussion of that throughout 500 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: this week of practice. That's where I want to hear 501 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: from you guys and Special Brand since you said, you know, 502 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: I think Mickey was onto something a while back about 503 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: McFadden not being active to try and save him, to 504 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: kind of get him, you know, to keep him fresh. 505 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: And you know, now it's all hands on deck when 506 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: this thing goes to you know, six games. So you know, 507 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: I think all week we do a great job of 508 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on practice when we can watch it. 509 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: You know, we talk to the right people kind of 510 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: figure out what they're going to do. But I do 511 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: agree that you're gonna now I don't think it's gonna 512 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: be Morris. It's gonna be the starter here and again, 513 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: this might all change, but Mickey said something a while back, 514 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: and he's absolutely right. This could be like, Okay, who's 515 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: the guy that gives us the most the best chance 516 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: to complete guy? And even though Alfred did some great things, 517 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: and Alfred's done some great things, but I think that 518 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: they have more confidence in McFadden. And I know it 519 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: sounds funny even though he's been inactive every week. It's 520 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: just kind of the feeling that I'm getting at Okay, Hey, 521 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: we'll be fine because we can do this with McFadden, 522 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: we can do this with Morris, and we can do 523 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: this with Rod Smith. Yeah, let's not forget Smith because 524 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: they started using him a little bit more on third down. 525 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: I sure did as the third down back, and he 526 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: makes some heck of a play in the Green Bay game. Yeah, 527 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: they too. So three running backs a full back. That's 528 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: basically what they've been doing so far, right, Yeah, running 529 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: backs in a full back. The thing they'll be difficult 530 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: in this game is that if you go back and 531 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: watch the San Francisco game last year, and I know 532 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: it's a different coaching staff and all that, but a 533 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: lot of the same players. Zeke was a pig factor 534 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: in this game. As far as they throw him a 535 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: screen one time on a first to twenty he gets 536 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: nineteen yards. There were some tough runs that he was 537 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: able to make in that game. On third down he 538 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: gets I mean one time Bowman's got him trapped for 539 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: no game, boom he gets, he gets a first down. 540 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there were a lot of physical runs that 541 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: he had to make in that game. And that's what 542 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna miss. That's what you're gonna miss that physical finisher. 543 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: And so maybe with Rod Smith, you know we've seen 544 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: that in the preseason, maybe he could be the one 545 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: thing the Cowboys are outstanding on at is on third 546 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: and one hand in the ball. Zek They're even better 547 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: on fourth and one hand in the ball to Ezekiel. 548 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: If we remember what happened the year before when it 549 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: was McFadden, they had trouble on third and short. You 550 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: don't want to get back. Now you got Dak with 551 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: the read option stuff that can maybe help you there, 552 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: but you don't want to get back into that mode 553 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: of where third and one we're struggling to get a 554 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: first down. Yeah, that's not guaranteed. Yeah, And that's what 555 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 1: people are overlooking. They're looking at Zeke's numbers and they're going, well, 556 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: they're not that good. Let's just go on, Well you 557 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: know what converting look at Look at the tough yards 558 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: he's picked up. I said it last week in the 559 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay game. I looked up and was like, how 560 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: is the average in two yards? Again? Because he had 561 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: some tough, dirty yards and they need that. They need 562 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: that muscle in there that can do that. The other 563 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: two guys aren't there. If they don't have that. It 564 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: might come down to rod Smith being that guy. If 565 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: he could prove that he can be that physical finisher. 566 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: I think he showed some of that in preseason he did. 567 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: I think all three of these guys have earned carries. 568 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: If Zeke's out, I really do. I think you could 569 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: use all three of them in a certain role. I 570 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: will say when McFadden was the main guy for most 571 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: of the twenty fifteen season, he did better when he 572 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: got was able to get into a rhythm. And I 573 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: think you could say that for all running backs, but 574 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: I think particularly for him, he got better the more 575 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: carries got. So that's something to consider too. I like 576 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: what you guys are saying, and I like the Rod Smith. 577 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't realize rod Smith went to 578 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State too. Yeah, hopefully he can physical guy he 579 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: can play like If he plays like he did in 580 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: the preseason, didn't that gives you some That gives you 581 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: some hope. But again it's you're gonna miss You're gonna 582 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: miss Ezekiel on those tough runs. And I again, watching 583 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: that San Francisco game last year, he made some incredible 584 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: runs and some really nice plays when they needed him. 585 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: To be big. He was big. One thing about Mickey's theory, 586 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: and I think there's something to it too. I do. 587 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: But if you want to play Devil's advocate, I mean 588 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: keep him inactive. Right the first five games McFadden, Yeah, 589 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: Morris had eight carries as the guy behind Zeke. I 590 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: don't It wasn't like they were really risking McFadden's health. Yeah, 591 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: but if you're only give him eight carries, why take 592 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: the chance of getting him hurt for eight carries? Right? Yeah, 593 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: just only eight carries? Even risk it? What does he have? 594 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: Eight carries for eighty one yards? Eighty seven? Eighty seven 595 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: and one is seventy seventy yard carry? Yeah, so you're 596 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: ready to see number twenty then if you I mean, 597 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: it's not him all the time, you know, it's those 598 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: guys up front got to play better that They need 599 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: a healthy Tyrann Smith. Yeah, you know. And if I 600 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: think they can get that, then they can run enough 601 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: to take some pressure off Dak. But they gotta take 602 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: some pressure off of him he can't get. You want 603 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: your quarterback to keep going out of the pocket. You 604 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: saw what happened Aaron Rodgers right out of the pocket. 605 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, you get pile, drive to the ground, boys, 606 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: get outside the pocket. Yes he is, but that's the downside, right, Yeah, 607 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: all this moaning and how many times as we seen 608 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks go down, Now Aaron Rodgers gets hurt. I see 609 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: people writing about what we got to change the rules, 610 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: we got to protect the quarterbacks. Yeah, no one wrote 611 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: that when Tony Romeo broke two collar bones and same 612 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: collar bone twice in one season. Right, you know they 613 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: act like, oh, this is the only quarterbacks ever got hurt. 614 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: It's time for what happens. This is what happens to quarterbacks, 615 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: you know. And a part of it, you made a 616 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: good point as far as saying, you know a lot 617 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: of fans are just out there looking like, well, Zeke 618 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: did terrible in the Broncos game. You know, McFadden can 619 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: do better than that. Morris had the seventy yard run. 620 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: They just think it's kind of a plug in place 621 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: type thing. Not at that position. Not at that position. 622 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: Because let's look at a perfect example from this past weekend. 623 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson gets traded to the Arizona Cardinals and makes 624 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: an immediate impact. Granted they did good plays and good 625 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: calls around him, right, they actually blocked up front. They 626 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: actually blocked up front in an old line that has 627 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: been struggling. Absolutely, when the worst in the NFL running 628 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 1: the football out, I thought it was high praise when 629 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald says, Hey, if Adrian Peterson had been on 630 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: this team all along, I would have had a ring 631 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: by Now. Yeah, that's a lot, And that means that 632 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: he that's how important running the football is to you. 633 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: Look what it did for Aaron Rodgerson that game. Absolutely, 634 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, laid it out for you. Yeah, it was. 635 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean the reason that you won the game, or 636 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: they won the game is because they were they were 637 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: able to show balance. Look at the rams, yeah, I 638 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: mean Todd girl really right, Yeah, very fair. And again, 639 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: look what it did for the Cowboys last year. The 640 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: drives they were able to finish in the end zone 641 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: last year compared to twenty fifteens. Heke had fifteen touchdowns 642 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: the leader for the Cowboys and twenty fifteen was a 643 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: guy who was off the team by mid season. By 644 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: the end of the year, So or big factor. Yeah, yeah, 645 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: it's just it's so funny to see these people. I've 646 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: seen a lot of tweets that are like we'll just 647 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: put Darren mcfaundin. Now. I've never seen a team that's 648 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: been in this type of situation. And you guys disagree 649 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: with me that it has two one thousand yard backs 650 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: right there. Have you seen a team that it was 651 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: kind of in this kind of situation. No, they've actually 652 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: protected themselves, and Stephen Jones said it, Yeah, that's exactly 653 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: what you need to do. And that's the smart thing 654 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: you see with Will McClay, I mean he's tried to 655 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: you know, they kept they could have got rid of 656 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: McFadden last year in a trade, they could have got 657 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: rid of Alfred Morse, they kept, they kept them around, 658 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: and so with you know, that's what you have to 659 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: do those That's smart. If you know something potentially is 660 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: going to happen, protect yourself and they've done that. It's smart. 661 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: And I also also think it speaks to the quality 662 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: of those two guys as people as teammates because you 663 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: know they've had to sit a lot, and I mean 664 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: you just mentioned Peterson. You go somewhere else, you probably 665 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: get more opportunities, but they've been willing to wait and 666 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: be patient and their time might be coming very soon. Yeah, 667 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: and you know Mickey brought up to the point about 668 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers than him going down and Romo going down 669 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: twice in one season with the color Bone. Of course, 670 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: Tony Romo was the commentator on No, he wasn't. It 671 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: was a fragment. But then there were some swirlings about 672 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: Tony Romeo returning, going to the pack. You know what, 673 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: any other team, any other team, I would maybe entertain that. 674 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: But know when the people in Green Bay, that's not 675 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: their mo that they're they're more of a Brett Hundley 676 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Well, no, they're more of a let's 677 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: draft our guys, let's develop guys, let's let our guys play. 678 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: That's kind of their thing. Now, if they lose two 679 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: or three games, maybe that narrative will change. But I 680 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: just feel like though that with ted Thompson, what I 681 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: know about Teddy, I just don't see them. I don't 682 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: see them entertaining that thought. And that injury should only 683 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: reinforce Romo's reason why not broadcast booth Already that offensive 684 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: line is horrible and it's gotten worse. He lost two 685 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: more guys starter and a backup in that game. Layne 686 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: Taylor got hurt in that game. Last week. I want 687 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: to see Rome will just run out of the booth 688 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: and go start playing. I have three reasons why I 689 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: don't ever see that happen. Don't ever leave Jim nann one. Yeah, absolutely, 690 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: that's one of them. Though. I think he's found a 691 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: calling there as a guy that's going to be in 692 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: that booth for a long time. They might name a 693 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: video game after him one day. It might be Romo 694 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: instead of Madden. The offensive line in Green Bay is poor, 695 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: that's not exactly ideal for him. And the back thing, like, 696 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: it's not just a guy coming out of retirement quote unquote, 697 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: it's a guy with a major back injury that I 698 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: wonder how much he's been strengthening that and doing those 699 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: exercises and being ready to play. Like it's not just 700 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: he's had the injury. Thing with the back to me 701 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: is just I think he's That's why I've always thought 702 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: he's done. Yeah, play again, but we'll see. Somebody was 703 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: saying today, of course, the first game that Romo will 704 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: be broadcasting will be at at and T Stadium against 705 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and people were saying, I hope the defensive 706 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: coordinator for the Chiefs is not you mean here it 707 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: at and T Stadium. Yeah, what did I say, first 708 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: game he'll be broadcasting. Yeah, first for the Cowboys. I 709 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: met with the Cowboys. With the Cowboys, I thought he 710 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: was doing the Chiefs Chiefs game, that's first November fifth. 711 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, cool. Is it not correct? Yeah it is. 712 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: But I thought for some reason he was doing the 713 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day game. I think the Chiefs before that. Oh, 714 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: sure it is. Yeah. So I was saying, you know, 715 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: it's a little bit tricky with these guys. Yeah, he 716 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: has these psychic abilities, if you would, he just needs 717 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: to keep doing what he's doing. Yep, that's exactly right, exactly, 718 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: And we need to hear from the fans. Now we 719 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: have a caller, Jimmy from Colorado is on the line. 720 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: Each party, guys, uh the show. I just had a 721 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: quick question about Rob Smith. Do you think he'll have 722 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: a bigger role in office? That's my question? Thank you, 723 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I think we touched on that. Jimmy 724 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: had just a little bit ago and it sounds like 725 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: you were driving, so yeah, you didn't hear us. But yeah, 726 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: I think that they'll they'll work him in there. I 727 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: think that he'll he'll get some touches, maybe more than 728 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: he's gotten. I mean, everybody can't touch the ball. I 729 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 1: don't know they're gonna do it three guys, but um yeah, 730 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: I could see them using him. Whoever, the most physical 731 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: back they have that can carry the football and do 732 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: it consistently is who they need to play. He's a 733 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: physical back. And if if it means you know, if 734 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: if it's INDI indication of what we've seen from the 735 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: training camp, I have no problem hinting the football to 736 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: Rod Smith. And can he be a down after down 737 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: after down player? Can he? You know? Obviously Mickey said 738 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: he's been in the third down packages, blitz pick up stuff. 739 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: Obviously he could catch. We saw that in the Green 740 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: Bay game. So but whoever they play, let that guy 741 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: be really the identity of what they've trying to do here. Yeah, 742 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: don't go soft. Now, pick the guy that has the 743 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: physical nature and we'll go and finish runs. That's going 744 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: to be important for this team. I just you stand 745 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: next to him, and I enjoyed visiting with him last week. 746 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: He's six three, he looks like he played tight end 747 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: for you. I mean, he is a big, physical running 748 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: back and he made this team not just as a 749 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: special teams guy. I think they really like his potential 750 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: as a runner. Obviously the other two guys have more experience, 751 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: but I think you can find a role for him. Yeah, 752 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: and I remember when he first got on this team, 753 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,479 Speaker 1: Brian kept saying, well, you know his brother Jalen. He's 754 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, he's pretty good. You guys should probably 755 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: watch him this season with Notre Dame and then look 756 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: at how the story unfolded here. Yep, yeah it is. 757 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: They just need they need to get back to where offensively, 758 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: where they have that balance. Nicky said it early. You 759 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: just can't put so much even though the quarterback is 760 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: playing very well, you can't just keep piling it on 761 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: him and say, and we did that with Tony Romo 762 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: for thirteen fourteen years. It just kept piling on and 763 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: piling on and piling on him, and then you had 764 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, it just was too much. Yeah, and that's 765 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: you know, that's where that's where you're at right now, 766 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: and that's where the other tape Romo needs to pull 767 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: out in case he has an inkling to go back 768 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: out there. Just grab that twenty eleven season and see 769 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: how he got beat up when you didn't have an 770 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, it'll say, yeah, Jim, let's go out 771 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: for coffee. I ain't going anywhere. I appreciate you got 772 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: dinner tonight. Yeah, he's too good in the booth too, 773 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: know what, you know what, you know what he's a 774 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: reminding me. And I haven't heard this, but this is 775 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: what Switzer's doing. He's doing this coaches, h not corner coaches. 776 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: They go to a casino in Oklahoma, imagine that, and 777 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: it's like three of them and they watch the game 778 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: as they're kind of commentating on it themselves, and people 779 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: are tuning in online to listen to them. Well, that's 780 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: the feeling I get with Romo, Right, he's like doing 781 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: the game, but he's not playing, you know, mister broadcaster. 782 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: It's like he's sitting on the couch with me. We're 783 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: just shooting the bull on the game. Yeah. I think 784 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: he's really good at it, you know, and just get 785 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: away from I think he says good stuff and he 786 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: sees good stuff, but it's the casual delivery. Because too 787 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: many guys that first start off in TV, they want 788 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: to play mister TV man. It's like, this is what 789 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: you're supposed to do and how you're supposed to say it. 790 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: I like how he uses the tellustrator right before the 791 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: snap too really fast. Yeah, and again actually circles where 792 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: he's supposed to circle. There's not just a circle in 793 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: space too. But you drop a dumb and dumber reference 794 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: in the middle of an NFL game that good you're 795 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: in You're good in my book. So what did you say? 796 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: It was just a very subtle line that you have 797 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: to be a huge fan of the movie. But that's 798 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: why I asked what cracked me up? Because I was 799 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: watching it. Well, it went, Rob, You're always good in 800 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: my book because when we come back from our final break, 801 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: we'll have your poll. I know you're always on top 802 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: of that. 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To learn more, visit better Money habits dot com. 845 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: This is talking cowboys, and it's a tradition on talking 846 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys that we talk Papa John's pizza because of that taste, 847 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: the ingredients like the veggies, never frozen pepperoni, pork and beef, 848 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: and when you have ingredients like that you have better pizza. 849 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: And then when they offer you buy one, get one free, 850 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: that's got to be Papa John's making it up, by 851 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: the way. No, I saw it on Sunday? Are you sure? Yes, 852 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: you watch the ads when you watch the games. Not 853 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: remember that one time that that Brian kind of teased 854 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: us Mick and said, hey, does everyone like cold pizza? 855 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: And we were like yes, and we thought we kind 856 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: of have it waiting for us. We didn't. Still hasn't 857 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: showed up, has it? But maybe you could? You could, 858 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: I'll get you free, right, Yeah, yeah, we can all 859 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: I thought you were making that buy one get one 860 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: from No, it's on it's on their deal. How many 861 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: games had I watched? I watched two at once, then 862 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: the three o'clock game, and then the seven thirty game 863 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah, after watch every after watching two games 864 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: at once on Saturday. Because I get the honor of 865 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: sitting next to Mickey in most press boxes, not usually 866 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: on the road, he's far away from me, is designed, 867 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: but you know, at home he's pretty much stuck with 868 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: me right there. And it is a true treat to 869 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: see him and we talk about it and he's very 870 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: patient with me. Usually has headphones on and I'll tap 871 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: him and he takes the headphones off. But I've would 872 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,879 Speaker 1: have given anything. You know. He's talking about watching coach 873 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: switcher Switcher to talk about this and to have that filmed, 874 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: making you just sitting there on your coaches cabana. It's 875 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: called it just hit me, you know, and to see 876 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: what make you with money? Yeah, you have to zoo 877 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: stuff on you. Shale tries to get you to do 878 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,959 Speaker 1: some honey dudes, and you're like, you could have seen 879 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: me sale the San Francisco Washington game when the regular 880 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: game finished and they went, sure we got we got, uh, 881 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: what do they call it? Bonus coverage? San Francisco got 882 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: So what's the word for the S word on? Man? 883 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: So messed on? Yeah, yeah, it's second and ten. They're 884 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: down twenty six twenty four DoD you guys see it. Yeah, 885 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty four, second and ten at the Washington forty. 886 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: So they are like nearly close enough to try a 887 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: fifty eight yard field. Go. I don't think Robbie gould 888 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: to get out there. But there was snow any mi. 889 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: So they're gonna throw heat throws. Bethard throws a slant 890 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: to Pierre Garson, and they're running. The running back behind 891 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: the slant and coming this way, and the linebacker that's 892 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: trying to cover the running back runs into Garson. Garson 893 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: didn't try to block him. He's trying to get two 894 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: balls in the air. He's trying to get to the ball, 895 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: and here comes the flag ten yards offensive interference that 896 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: accused him of running a pick play when it wasn't 897 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: a pick play, and you could watch it on I 898 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: would have been beside myself. It was the It was 899 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: the most horrendous call because if they got the ten yards, 900 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: they're in field goal, or even if it was incomplete, 901 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: at least they all they had to pick up was 902 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: five more yards and it's a fifty three yard field goal. 903 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: And and that's how close they were to winning. Anybody 904 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: close every dang game. And anybody that thinks, you know, 905 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: this is a cakewalk for the Cowboys, beware because the 906 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: last five losses by no more than three points, and 907 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: that one was two, and they should have been able 908 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: to attempt a winning field goal in the last seconds 909 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: on the road by the one. It's an NFL record, 910 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: by the way, Yes, I saw that five straight three 911 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: or less man. Yeah, so when you see things like that, Yeah, 912 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: I was talking to the TV because it was I 913 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: would have it wasn't right. I mean, it was just horrible, 914 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: bad job. Mickey Dolly, Zach Brown was the linebacker. He 915 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: ran into good band. Alright, alright a pole. Yes, we 916 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: spent most of last segment talking about the Cowboys running 917 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: back situation. Close pole today, yikes, simple Cowboys best running 918 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: back is blank, Darren McFadden, Alfred Morris or Rod Smith. Well, 919 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: before you say that, we have some breaking news from Twitter. 920 00:46:55,600 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, breaking fifth Circuit denise nfl PA his motion 921 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: to recall the mandate, but says Union can still seek 922 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: in bok E N space b A nc rehearing. So 923 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: they're they're saying, basically, we're not in a hurry to 924 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: get to it, so we are not giving you an 925 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: injunction to allow him to play. So now it comes 926 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: down to what happens in New York Ork. Yeah, yeah, well, okay, 927 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: those in bank hearings are very rare, right, yes, yes, oh, 928 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: actually what they they? Yeah? I think what did I see? 929 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 1: There was two hundred request for him and only six 930 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 1: ye got to be heard, and I don't know how 931 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: many they overturned the decision. It sounds like it takes 932 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: a lot of time and effort. Yeah, like, what's the 933 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: timeline on something? You just said all the judges, Well, 934 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how many judges. Say, there's ten judges 935 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: in the court. I don't know how many of there are. 936 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 1: You got to get all ten together? Yeah, at the 937 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: same time. Well Rob not on vacation. Like the judge 938 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: in in in New York is gone. Yeah, the lady 939 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 1: judge Folia and so. Now, so she was appointed by 940 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 1: Obama and the other guy, whatever his name is, who's 941 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna hear it now, was appointed by Bush. So you 942 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: know you're such set about along party party lines. Yeah, 943 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: so you know, is one gonna for the people or 944 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: for the business? Yeah, we'll see how how that turns out. Which, 945 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: by the way, they're meeting in New York to the 946 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,879 Speaker 1: league today. Oh, we're gonna get into that. But let's 947 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: get to Rob's pole. Oh yeah, because I wanted to 948 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: say that because now it's looking more and more likely. 949 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: You know, Oh, he's only got one more shot shot, right, 950 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: But let's get to Rob's holden. We can definitely get 951 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: to the NFL Owners Meetings close pole Essentially, who would 952 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: you pick to be the backup behind Zeke? Forty two 953 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: percent said Alfred Morris, thirty seven percent said McFadden, twenty 954 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: one percent said rod Smith. It is close, and I 955 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: think that maybe Alfred Morris kind of edges out McFadden 956 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: in that one simply because of his long run and 957 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: what people have seen. It's very much what have you 958 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 1: done for me lately? Sure, but I think you know 959 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: the fact that rod Smith gets twenty one percent, I 960 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: think that speaks to what we talked about last segment, 961 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: that I think you could find a way to use 962 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: all three of these guys and be productive. Yeah, I 963 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: think that that's what you're gonna You're definitely gonna see that. 964 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: And I think you're gonna supplement also too with some 965 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: of your running game, maybe even with Ryan Switzer. I 966 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: know it sounds crazy, but it might be two or 967 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 1: three snaps, whether it's the jet sweep, whether it's putting 968 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: him in the backfield, toss sweeps, crack tosses, whatever. So 969 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna have to piece this thing together 970 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: for six weeks. They've got, you know, competent backs to 971 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: do it. They just don't have the Now we'll see, 972 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: they don't have the physical finisher. It might be it 973 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: might be Smith, but they're gonna have to find a 974 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: way to get back and recapture that identity that they 975 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: once had running the football. About Keith Smith, Oh, Keith 976 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: Smith used in the passing game and a matter of fact, 977 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: in the San Francisco game last year, I watched some 978 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: boot action, waggle action, throwing him the football in the 979 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: flo got a first down out of it. I mean 980 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: there's yeah, so that than shot yardage situations. Yeah, Keith 981 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: Keith Smith is tough enough to do it. Yeah, you know, 982 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: if you want to line him up and go yeah, absolutely, 983 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: But whoever it is, they cannot fall back into that 984 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: where we saw two years ago, three years ago where 985 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: third and one became a hold your breath down and 986 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: last year it became like a no brainer. Even this year, 987 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 1: go four on fourth and one. You're one of the 988 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: you're one of the best teams in the league when 989 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: it comes to running that ball in third and one, 990 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: third and short. There's no doubt about it, no doubt 991 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: who ran it? Was it last night? Procent tried to 992 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: run it. Yeah, and they didn't hand it off again, 993 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: he tried to run a bootleg. How about this, I'll 994 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: just give you an example, just for my for my 995 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: fourth and one conversions, Cowboys are first in the league. 996 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: They've done it one hundred percent of the time. They've 997 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: converted one hundred percent of time. League average is right 998 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: at seventy percent. What do they have like four? Uh 999 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,799 Speaker 1: that I don't have the value? Yeah, they've got more 1000 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,160 Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, big game. Yeah, and it's and you 1001 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: don't see Jason Garrett hesitating either a lot of now 1002 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: twenty one you're going to talk about last night the 1003 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: Titans today there's six of ten on fourth down, so 1004 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: probably all the one guard ones they got. Yeah, they're 1005 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 1: able to really work a balance between Derrick Henry and 1006 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray over there. So we'll see, we'll see. But 1007 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,879 Speaker 1: making you did hint at it. The NFL owners are 1008 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: meeting in New York, very close to the court. Well, 1009 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: Zeke's final decision will be made, but they're not really 1010 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: focused on Zeke. They're focused on much bigger manners. This 1011 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: matters this week and a lot to do with certain 1012 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: policy changes and different things like that. Jerry Jones, a 1013 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: big presence up there. Well, they listed NFL put out 1014 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: a release that listed the players that were there and 1015 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: the owners, and there was eleven owners and Jerry's name 1016 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: wasn't listed. I can't imagine he's not there. No, he's 1017 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 1: definitely there because some people saw him at the Yankees 1018 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: game last night. Yeah, maybe he just well, I'm just 1019 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: wasn't in the first meeting. I was like, heaking over 1020 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: your shoulder. They're making him look and it looks like 1021 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: they get a live or port from ESPN and they 1022 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: said that protesters were, uh were after him as he 1023 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: came into the meeting. So we'll see. Well, I think 1024 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 1: I think when Mickey and maybe I'm wrong, but I 1025 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: saw a list too, but that looked like the one 1026 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,400 Speaker 1: that was discussing owners and players meeting on the National 1027 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: Anthem Decision policy. Yeah that's what Arry wasn't involved, but 1028 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,240 Speaker 1: there's other meetings going around. Yeah, but I would imagine 1029 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: he's in on. I thought I thought he would be too. 1030 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: I thought he would be too. So two day assembly, 1031 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,879 Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. Yeah, Yeah, can I just finish 1032 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 1: up real quick on this tay too and offense third 1033 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: and one conversions eighty five point seven percent. Where is 1034 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,879 Speaker 1: that rank that's tenth in the league. League average in one, Yeah, 1035 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: third and one. League average is league percentages sixty eight 1036 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: point nine. So think about that. Eighty five percent of 1037 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: a time you hand the ball that guy on third 1038 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: and one, you were going to get the first down 1039 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: a conversion. So and if not on fourth and one, 1040 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna get it. Yeah, there you go. If you're 1041 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: if you, if you if tempt it, if you're going 1042 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: to attempt it. Right, I have to use that stat today, 1043 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: and mccollumn unless you're going to use it that you 1044 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: take it from. You got it, man, you got it. 1045 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 1: There's footnotes, you know, you can put a little asters. 1046 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: I'll mention Brian, now you don't have to, Yeah, will, 1047 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: of course I will. It's a shame, but I mean, yeah, 1048 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: this whole thing with the the you know, it's hey, 1049 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: it's good that the owners and the players are getting together. 1050 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, if you're going to have a meeting, 1051 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: get everybody involved, talk about what's going on. You've been 1052 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 1: to a few of these owners meetings. I'm sure you 1053 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 1: guys have two, I you know, but most recently you 1054 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: were at the one in Phoenix, Yes, Phoans, and you 1055 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,439 Speaker 1: know they're long days for these guys. And even Jerry 1056 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 1: Jones has shared stories of these types of owners meetings 1057 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: before where there's been something of a hot topic that 1058 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: he needed to discuss, and no matter if he's in 1059 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 1: the meeting or not, he usually gets his opinions heard 1060 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: and everyone knows where the Dallas Cowboys stand. Absolutely. These 1061 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: meetings are a little different because there's there's about a 1062 00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 1: dozen players that were invited or volunteered to go along 1063 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 1: with uh Demorris Smith, the NFLPA president, and the two 1064 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: people that are I guess executive vice presidents. Uh. So yeah, 1065 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: it listed the too, Yeah, An Kwon Bolden Uh, names 1066 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: that you would need recognize, Russell Okung, Kenny Stills, Um, 1067 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins, Chris Long, Eric Read, Josh Norman, Mark Hurlslick. Uh. 1068 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: And then they listed eleven owners. So that in this 1069 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 1: meeting with all the players and the NFLPA and normally 1070 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: the things that you know we've covered the NFL owners meetings, Uh, 1071 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 1: there's no players invited to that, and I don't think 1072 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: the NFLPA has invited either. No, this is a little different, 1073 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 1: so maybe they can all get together and come up 1074 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 1: with uh some I don't know that. They just have 1075 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: to come up with a plan, a better plan than 1076 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,760 Speaker 1: what's going on right now. And we're heading right into 1077 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 1: the storm here this Sunday in San Francisco. Ye, So 1078 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,279 Speaker 1: it always seems that way. It always seems that way. 1079 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: But you know, man, it's if this team was five 1080 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: and zero and different things. Yeah, it's a shame that 1081 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of things that off the field 1082 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 1: that might be affecting the way they're playing on the field. 1083 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: I still think though, the bigger thing is the fact 1084 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: that on the field performance hasn't been as good. It's obvious, 1085 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: but but you know, the players, if that's their sanctuary 1086 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: to get on the field and play, then then we've 1087 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 1: seen not so good there. You know, you can't let 1088 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: the off the field things the track from how you're 1089 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,879 Speaker 1: supposed to perform on the field. For the most part, 1090 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing that every single player on this team 1091 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: has played poorly, but a large number of them have 1092 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: and that's and that's hurt the team. And that's why 1093 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: that you have the record that you have just simple executions. 1094 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 1: What you're saying, there's a lot I mean compared to 1095 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: last year, you can throw a blanket over it. I mean, 1096 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: had the coach has been perfect, no, had the players 1097 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 1: been perfect, No, but a lot of things, you know, 1098 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: and I keep saying this, I felt like they just 1099 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: threw away the last two games. I really do, you know, 1100 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 1: they they just have not played well enough when they 1101 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: needed to at the end of those football games to win. 1102 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 1: And you know what. And interviewing Witton for the Jason 1103 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 1: Garrett Show this weekend, his point was just that because 1104 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: we're two two minute drives, one on offense, one on 1105 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,760 Speaker 1: defense away from being four and one right, and didn't execute, 1106 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: didn't didn't pull it off. And and that's how close 1107 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 1: it is. That margin for air in this league's very small. 1108 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: And that's why you're setting up the rest of our 1109 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: shows this week to actually be good when we can 1110 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: actually get into some real football talk. And you're talking 1111 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: about a team that's almost very similar to the I mean, 1112 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna win one. That's that's why I was. I was, 1113 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, Washington, we're gonna win one. Get your win 1114 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 1: out of the way. And this team's close to winning. 1115 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 1: And I got a feeling they're gonna have a little 1116 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: extra kicking him with this CJ. Bethard at quarterback. Just 1117 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: the way he played his nature, I was finest. Check 1118 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: it out tomorrow. He's one of my guys. We'll talk 1119 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, under the radar guy tomorrow. He comes 1120 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,840 Speaker 1: in the first time in the NFL and nineteen of 1121 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,760 Speaker 1: thirty six for two hundred and forty five yards a 1122 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: forty five yard touchdown pass and the interception was at 1123 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: the end of the game in desperation time. Sounds next 1124 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: and he was down seventeen to nothing when he came in, 1125 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,919 Speaker 1: and he scored seventeen straight points to get the game tied. 1126 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,920 Speaker 1: And they were that close to that play that I 1127 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: explained to you of being able to win one. So 1128 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: you know how it is. You get a new guy 1129 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: in there, and it's a week of practice too, and 1130 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: now he because eating't practice last week right now, they 1131 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: just threw him in there and they liked what they 1132 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 1: saw to the point like on Tuesday, there's Monday, they're saying, yeah, 1133 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: he's my quarterback. Yeah so my quarterback. Yeah absolutely, Well 1134 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: this is my podcast and we'll be back tomorrow. We're 1135 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: done already. That was a quick hour. Time flies. That's 1136 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: why we find maggot, we shouldn't be away for all 1137 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: these days in a row. That's true. We'll be back tomorrow. 1138 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: Join us then. Thank you so much for tuning in today. 1139 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1140 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.