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Speaker 1: are here to real. Smith from Minnesota, long athletic, big corner.

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Speaker 1: When you see the success that the big the young

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Speaker 1: able to hold their own on the perimeter, it encourages

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Speaker 1: guys to look for more players and prospects in those modes.

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Speaker 1: Those two guys to me really really stand out in

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Speaker 1: terms of Smith is a big corner and Clark has

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Speaker 1: an experienced corner that can play in the slot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a couple of the guys that stood out to me

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Speaker 1: in terms of big, physical receivers. Talking about Justin Shorter

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Speaker 1: from Florida has made a ton of plays this week.

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Speaker 1: We were in number eighty four in the game, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a guy who didn't have a ton

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Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of and talked a little bit

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Speaker 1: about me that dk metcalf type of money style. You know,

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Speaker 1: to see guys that look like that play like that too,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's kind of what he showed us a

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Speaker 1: little bit today. I'm really intrigued by Jake Bobo. One

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Speaker 1: I thought he's been he's been a favorite target of

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Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks on the West roster this week. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a guy that's gonna make a ton of

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Speaker 1: plays in this game all over the place. And it

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Speaker 1: chronic um who ended up with the Los Angeles Rams

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Speaker 1: lot of different roles. I think Bobo, you know, depending

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Speaker 1: on how fast he runs, you know, could find his way, um,

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Speaker 1: you know into that high Day three conversation. Um. If not,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe later on in Day three or you know,

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Speaker 1: at worst he's on somebody's roster as a p F A.

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Speaker 1: But um, I think he's gonna be a draftable player.

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Speaker 1: It's got everything it takes for sure. Um, anybody else

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Speaker 1: that's jumped out want to call out at this point,

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Speaker 1: like I know your ties and I know your affinity

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Speaker 1: for the big ten, but how about big mo mo Ibraham.

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Speaker 1: When we think about running backs and yeah, running backs,

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Speaker 1: Asa Pacheco did a great job of kind of putting

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Speaker 1: himself in the spotlight, and he goes to Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: gets drafted late, but emerges as the start is really

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Speaker 1: given their offense and added dimension. You think about a

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Speaker 1: guy with uh the production. He's had three one tho

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Speaker 1: years seasons. He had over eight hundred carries, which might

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Speaker 1: does have is what I'm looking for is competitive stamina

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Speaker 1: in terms of being able to show the load and

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Speaker 1: do all those things. And when you you just think

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Speaker 1: about those kinds of guys three touchdowns, very productive. He's

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Speaker 1: someone to keep an eye on because running backs are

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Speaker 1: not coveted or valued as first round prospects, because people

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Speaker 1: believe you can find solid runners day two, day three.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on him. He's someone's very very productive

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Speaker 1: and also very effective and one guy will certainly have

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Speaker 1: our eye on. Is an edge rusher from Ferris State.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Murphy registered twenty five and a half sacks this

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Speaker 1: year on the on the Division two levels, you want

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Speaker 1: the Gene Upshaw Award as the top off defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman in Division two, he actually won the Ted

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Speaker 1: Hendricks Award as the nation's best defensive end and he

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Speaker 1: was the first non FBS player to win the award,

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Speaker 1: and in doing so setting the n C double A

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Speaker 1: all divisions record. Nobody at any division has ever had

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Speaker 1: more sacks in a season than Caleb Murphy's twenty five

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Speaker 1: and a half, So be curious to see how he's

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Speaker 1: able to put that production into good use on game

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Speaker 1: night inside Allegiance Stadium and try to get after some

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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks. All Right, I think, though we both

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Speaker 1: agree that the player that's gonna go highest in the

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Speaker 1: draft that's been here at Shrine Week has been Zay Flowers,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver from Boston College. I know he's gonna end

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Speaker 1: up in DJ's pretty high, in DJ's top fifty UM

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll be in one of your top

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Speaker 1: five receiver lists when you get your top five positional

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Speaker 1: rankings out. He didn't practice on Saturday, practiced on Sunday here,

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Speaker 1: which was day two of practice, and won't do anything

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Speaker 1: else for the rest of the week. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, even if he didn't play it down or

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Speaker 1: a snap or rep, this week was going to be

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Speaker 1: very well thought of by the NFL talent evaluation community.

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Speaker 1: And I'd be shocked if he's not the first player

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Speaker 1: that went to this game here in Las Vegas that

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Speaker 1: gets drafted. Yeah, I would. I would expect to see

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Speaker 1: him go pretty high. I mean, he's he's a very

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Speaker 1: talented playmaker. We've seen in recent years the policy wide

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Speaker 1: receivers have a tendency to jump in the league and

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Speaker 1: have immediate success. He's an outstanding we're outrunner, is very

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Speaker 1: creative and elusive with the ball in his hands in

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Speaker 1: the open field. Can play multiple spots. But I think

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Speaker 1: he will probably project as a slide receiver. He just

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Speaker 1: gets it. He has he has the in fact that

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Speaker 1: that you look for, and in a wide receiver class

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Speaker 1: where you may not have like that five star premier

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Speaker 1: playmaker that deserves to come off the board in the

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Speaker 1: top ten. A team looking for a starting receiver with

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Speaker 1: a specific skill set could fall in love with A

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Speaker 1: Flowers because he's as polished as they co. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Um, So you know, Zay certainly feels,

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Speaker 1: you know, like he's number forty one and DJ's Top

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Speaker 1: fifty which came out today. So DJ will uh definitely

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Speaker 1: have much more on that as he joins the pod

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Speaker 1: again this week from Mobile, um and as you look

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Speaker 1: forward to that game on Saturday with Anders Ciliano and

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Speaker 1: Charles Davis. So looking forward to kind of continuing to

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Speaker 1: follow these guys. But I think, yeah's A Flowers will

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Speaker 1: be up there in the draft as you mentioned, Control

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Speaker 1: Clark from Louisville will be up there when we talk

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Speaker 1: about guys that get drafted from this game, and then

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Speaker 1: who knows, you know, maybe we see a few more

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Speaker 1: before this h this day is done. But again it

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Speaker 1: doesn't you don't have to get your name called early

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Speaker 1: when you're playing here in the Shrine Bowl Game to

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Speaker 1: still have an impact, as both Isaiah Pacheco and Brock

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Speaker 1: Purty or seventh round draft picks coming from the Shrine

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Speaker 1: Game and ended up making huge impacts for their teams

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Speaker 1: as starters, and Isaiah Pacheco will still have that opportunity

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Speaker 1: as a running back for the Kansas City Chiefs. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's gonna do it here from Las Vegas. Um

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Speaker 1: any other final thoughts here, Bucky, that that you got

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Speaker 1: after watching practices and get ready for the game on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Everyone should tune it. This is a great opportunity for

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Speaker 1: uh you to kind of familiarize yourself with some of

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Speaker 1: the young talent disc going to play in the league.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys that appear to be unheralded prospects

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Speaker 1: now could really be key players for your teams in

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Speaker 1: a year or two. Thanks for you tune in the

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Speaker 1: swet frying games right now. I catch covered Let's go.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun out here in Las Vegas. So all right.

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Speaker 1: Well with that, I want to remind you that you

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Speaker 1: again can catch kick off of the Shrine Bowl eight

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Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern Time only here on NFL Network. DJ

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Speaker 1: and special guests will be BacT with another Move the

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Speaker 1: Sticks podcast episode later in the week from the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Certainly appreciate you tune it in as always for Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: I am read Lewis. If you're listening to Move the Stacks,

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