Speaker 1: Oh we rolling.
Speaker 2: We good.
Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. I
Speaker 3: am your co host, Will Compton. My other co host
Speaker 3: today Taylor Lawe. Glennie Balls just randomly sorry. I appreciate
Speaker 3: Glenny Balls took the three of you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 3: Glenny's in town. You're doing a Sunday conversation with Caleb.
Speaker 4: Yes, you too? Who who else does they have? Chase
Speaker 4: Rice on Wednesday? And then we did Darius today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Darius Darius as you guys obviously now you
Speaker 3: heard of him. Yeah, Hoody what what what is his?
Speaker 1: What was his nickname in that band?
Speaker 4: So here's what happens. I've heard he doesn't like to
Speaker 4: be called hoody and he said he's not hoody. He said,
Speaker 4: that's just the name of the band and interviews. He said that.
Speaker 4: And I'm not gonna lie. I've been here. I've been
Speaker 4: here all weekend because, yeah, we have an interview, so
Speaker 4: why not come to Nashville. So we had the interview,
Speaker 4: and everyone I talked to you yesterday they were like, oh,
Speaker 4: why are you here? When I was out at the
Speaker 4: bars and ship, they like, oh, I'm doing an interview
Speaker 4: with Darius in the morning, and everyone's just like, don't
Speaker 4: call Hoody because you know Nashville, everyone knows everybody, like
Speaker 4: everyone hears something.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, thank god I didn't.
Speaker 4: That's like, don't call him hoody. Why didn't you tell
Speaker 4: me that I forgot.
Speaker 1: We've been texting the whole time.
Speaker 4: It's okay, we survived. Yeah we survived and did not
Speaker 4: say Hoody.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 3: So Darius, he had a Sunday conversation with the boys,
Speaker 3: Caleb and Glenny at ten am, and then Darius came
Speaker 3: on over here at eleven am. So he had a
Speaker 3: full day getting the Barceol car wash.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's Darius been in the heat, He's been
Speaker 4: on for two hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he went on the top two shows in Barcel.
Speaker 4: Whatdn't you say obviously obviously you were saying almost went
Speaker 4: on a pizza view. Who needs the pizza reviews when
Speaker 4: you got us right right?
Speaker 1: Or or the Chevy review that you're about the body bag.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm good at this.
Speaker 2: I'm good at this.
Speaker 4: So we're doing Chevy. Yeah, we're Chevy. I fact, that
Speaker 4: was bad. I don't want to like fuck up the Adams.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chevy's are our main primary there though the big
Speaker 3: they are our best friends.
Speaker 4: Am I doing the full read? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You got the read?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: I thought you said you were good.
Speaker 4: How do I start off like football season is in
Speaker 4: full blown? Okay, just bro?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe we'd.
Speaker 4: Be like, I don't even have a car. Thought maybe
Speaker 4: be like, oh, my Chevy was awesome last night.
Speaker 1: But you so what we unloaded out of my truck,
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Speaker 4: I told growing up, I was always the guy wo
Speaker 4: would raise my hand to reading class, know you, I
Speaker 4: swear to god I was. I always loved reading class.
Speaker 4: I loved it.
Speaker 3: It's kind of fucking weird. Were you guys about hand
Speaker 3: raising your hand and reading class?
Speaker 1: People did it at that point?
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's not like I was a bookwarm I just
Speaker 4: always enjoyed reading.
Speaker 1: You just enjoy reading or you wanted to show off, like.
Speaker 4: Oh I don't. I don't read books, Like I don't
Speaker 4: sit down and read books. I've read like three books
Speaker 4: in my life.
Speaker 1: You suld like to be the kid that reads in class.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if we're reading a quick passage from the literature novel, yeah,
Speaker 4: why not prayer? Yeah? I went to Catholic school, so
Speaker 4: we had we had like morality Catholic school.
Speaker 1: U until fourth grade?
Speaker 4: Oh I did all through high school?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So like in high school. Every year we've had
Speaker 4: a different we have a different category of religion class
Speaker 4: we'd take. There was like scripture, morality. I can't remember
Speaker 4: the other two. Every year we have a different religion class.
Speaker 4: And yeah, we would just rock that Bible, bro.
Speaker 1: And then you're and here you are at barstool sports.
Speaker 4: You know, they, I don't think they like it very much.
Speaker 4: The the Catholic high school, they don't like yeah, still
Speaker 4: very much.
Speaker 1: You can't go back to your old school and kind
Speaker 1: of walk the halls proud.
Speaker 4: So I went.
Speaker 1: They looked down on you.
Speaker 4: No, I went. The first time I went back to school,
Speaker 4: it was uh, I wasn't working at Parsley and I
Speaker 4: was just in college because that was the big thing
Speaker 4: was Thanksgiving Eve. You go back to Kellenberg and then
Speaker 4: you roam around Kellenberg. See all the teachers give some hugs. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then you head out and everyone goes to the
Speaker 4: bar that night, the local the local watering hole, per se,
Speaker 4: try to get with your crush from high school, you
Speaker 4: know all that. All that. Yeah, and uh, yeah, I
Speaker 4: have been back since. I did go back for the
Speaker 4: five year reunion, which was pretty awkward, but it was fun,
Speaker 4: was it?
Speaker 1: Awkward.
Speaker 4: It's just weird seeing all your teachers and ship if
Speaker 4: and everyone. I told about a five year union and
Speaker 4: everyone says, looking at me, like I have ten heads
Speaker 4: in a five year union. I think it's got to
Speaker 4: at least ten. The five I've never heard of five
Speaker 4: year Yeah we had if we have five ten, fifteen,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. But I'll be going back. I'm I'm
Speaker 4: a I peaked in high school.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: I love high school. Yeah, loved it. Well, what do
Speaker 3: you mean you peaked? What makes you think you peaked?
Speaker 3: Like athletically you peaked.
Speaker 4: Or definitely athletically? I was Were you in all the sports?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I tried off. I never played football. I tried football
Speaker 4: freshman year, got cut first cuts because like I was always,
Speaker 4: I always had sick hands, Like I I do pretty
Speaker 4: good hands, but I can't be a fucking tight end.
Speaker 4: I'm five eight and like three hundred pounds give me
Speaker 4: that end. So I tried out to be alignment. And
Speaker 4: there's never having played the line before. I got cut
Speaker 4: first cuts if it was tough, but I did.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: I did play uh cut first cut. I did play shotput.
Speaker 4: I was on the shot put team for the first
Speaker 4: year I was on the shot put team. I remember
Speaker 4: the coach. First thing he said, like when we got
Speaker 4: on the team, because he wasn't even a teacher there.
Speaker 4: He just came would come to just coach the shot put. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And the first thing he said was if you don't
Speaker 4: have a sense of humor, you're not gonna do well
Speaker 4: on this team. So we would fucking bust joke around,
Speaker 4: bust balls all the time. Whatever. And I'm not a
Speaker 4: very serious person. So sophomore year comes around, try to
Speaker 4: get on the team again. I got cut sophomore year
Speaker 4: and the guy said I joked around too much and
Speaker 4: he coming for that. I was like this, So yeah,
Speaker 4: I got cut from fucking shot put. I got cut
Speaker 4: from shot put.
Speaker 2: For being too funny, not for.
Speaker 4: Being too fighting, just for trying to be too funny.
Speaker 4: I can't say I was too funny.
Speaker 1: When how did you get the name Glenny Balls?
Speaker 4: So I don't really know. Me and my friends just
Speaker 4: like came up with it randomly one day, and I think, so,
Speaker 4: I think it's a mix of Goodfellas and Entourage subconsciously
Speaker 4: being in my brain in Goodfellas, you know the tracking
Speaker 4: scene of Good Fellas where they're going through the whole
Speaker 4: restaurant and showing everybody. They say one guy's name is
Speaker 4: Sally Balls. And then in Entourage when Billy Walsh has
Speaker 4: his when Billy Walsh starts a porn he's a porn director.
Speaker 4: His porn director nickname is Wally Balls. So I think,
Speaker 4: just subconsciously through that, I thought of Glenny Balls.
Speaker 1: So you started. This is self proclaimed. This is self proclaimed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I I got like a horse racing account,
Speaker 4: like before I even got hired at work, and like
Speaker 4: my us name on there, just made it Glenny Balls.
Speaker 4: It's just that's just that's I mean, thank god, thank
Speaker 4: god that I did because trust me, like if you're
Speaker 4: the guy at my interview with Dave, I'm walking out,
Speaker 4: walking out of the interview, and you.
Speaker 6: Gotta tell the whole story though, because you told it
Speaker 6: to me yesterday about how that happened.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a what a horrifying story. It's my
Speaker 4: heart beats every time I say it.
Speaker 1: With the context of going in the interview with.
Speaker 4: Day, just how I got hired. So I got hired
Speaker 4: when it was like five years ago, was late August twenty.
Speaker 1: Sixteen, And let's put your head back on.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I've shitty hair. I know I canna tell him,
Speaker 4: but I know, Jesus Christ, I mean, I'm no fucking Caleb.
Speaker 4: I know I got shitty hair.
Speaker 1: That's a kid show man.
Speaker 4: But so I got how I like five years ago.
Speaker 4: It was late August. I remember, it was lame in
Speaker 4: bed one night and Erica treats out that we need
Speaker 4: New York interns, that they're moving to New York from Boston.
Speaker 4: So I instantly lay in my bed, I fucking replied quickly,
Speaker 4: And I'm emailing Erica. At least I thought as Erica
Speaker 4: was emailing Erica a Barsol Sports. It really wasn't Erica.
Speaker 4: It was like our manager, our office manager, Brett, great guy,
Speaker 4: shout out. I haven't seen him in a while, and
Speaker 4: he was one of like doing like setting up the interviews. Obviously,
Speaker 4: I don't know why YIP actually thought Erica was the
Speaker 4: one like emailing interns. But so I going for an
Speaker 4: intern interview. This was September sixteen, twenty sixteen. Got the interview,
Speaker 4: thank god, and I have no idea. Once again, I
Speaker 4: still think I'm emailing Erica. So I think this is
Speaker 4: a full blown business interview, Like I wore like a
Speaker 4: button down shirt and.
Speaker 1: You're looking good.
Speaker 4: You're ready to get the known.
Speaker 1: I don't just fans, not that you didn't look good,
Speaker 1: but you're trying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember I did a one of the things
Speaker 4: I wrote in my breast it was that I did
Speaker 4: like the blazing challenge at Buffalo Wild Wings. So then
Speaker 4: they wrote back wear the blazing shirt with and the
Speaker 4: I wore butN down over that. So I ready for
Speaker 4: the day. And this was what I actually chanswer to
Speaker 4: a school in the city. So I was going to
Speaker 4: a business school in Manhattan on twenty third and Lexington
Speaker 4: Baruk and I had a miserable schedule out of Tuesday
Speaker 4: Thursday seven am, Monday Wednesday seven am. But then the
Speaker 4: Monday Wednesday class would have like a twenty minute meet
Speaker 4: up on Fridays from eleven to eleven twenty and my
Speaker 4: whole life, my mom has been off on Friday. She
Speaker 4: doesn't work on Fridays, so she would drive me to
Speaker 4: the city, wait in the car. I'd go to the
Speaker 4: twenty minute thing and we were just get a nice
Speaker 4: wonderful lunch from manattan somewhere, you know, maybe a little
Speaker 4: cats as Delis and mother son time. So she drove
Speaker 4: me that day to college, to school or whatever. Then
Speaker 4: drove me to the office. Let's meet out, and I'm like, listen,
Speaker 4: drive away, don't stay here, drive away. So I go
Speaker 4: up there to the interview. It was so so so scary,
Speaker 4: our new office office. You've been in a new office, right,
Speaker 4: He's nice. You walk in as a lobby the old office.
Speaker 4: You get off the elevator, You're just in the mix.
Speaker 4: You're just staring at people. I remember I made icontact
Speaker 4: with Fiderberg and I freaked the funk out because I
Speaker 4: was a big Barstol fan. I had the Barcel flag sweatshirt.
Speaker 4: I was a big Barsol guy. I was fucking horrifying.
Speaker 4: You walk in and then speak of mind. I forgot
Speaker 4: to mention, dude, I forgot to mention. So I'm looking
Speaker 4: at snapchat, the Barstol snapchat, and I see Caleb interviewing
Speaker 4: people like on your way yeah, on my way there.
Speaker 4: I forgot to see that. I see Caleb interviewing people
Speaker 4: like jokingly doing it for content. I had no idea.
Speaker 4: I still think this is a business interview. And then
Speaker 4: on the way there, I see that and I'm like,
Speaker 4: holy shit, I'm so scared.
Speaker 1: I'm about to get got so I'm fucking horrified.
Speaker 4: I go up there, I sit down with Caleb and
Speaker 4: thank god, this great guy Matt now I know now
Speaker 4: he texted Caleb, just the next guy you see, asking
Speaker 4: me if he's fast. So Caleb just randomly asked me
Speaker 4: if I'm fast, and I was like, dude, you know what,
Speaker 4: fro my size, i am pretty fucking fast. Like when
Speaker 4: I'm playing softball, people are shocked how quick I got
Speaker 4: down the line. Like from my size, I'm pretty pretty fast. Okay,
Speaker 4: it was just goes to me, let's prove it. We
Speaker 4: go down to the street, twenty seventh Street, and I'm
Speaker 4: not only am I freaking out about like meeting Caleb
Speaker 4: doing all that, Like what if my mom's still outside
Speaker 4: in the car elevator. We get outside, she didn't fucking move.
Speaker 4: She's right there. Like I'm like, please don't say it,
Speaker 4: Please don't say anything. Please don't say please, don't say anything.
Speaker 4: Like in the video me running down the street, you
Speaker 4: can see my mom's car. It's right there and I'm
Speaker 4: sitting there. Holy fuck, thank god, I ran down the
Speaker 4: street and kid was like, you're fast, you're hired. And
Speaker 4: then I'm like, okay, sounds good, budd He says, you
Speaker 4: gotta go talk to Dave. He brings us into Dave.
Speaker 4: I talked to Dave, which was obviously horrifying, Like it's
Speaker 4: very intimidating. I've known for five years. He's a wonderful guy.
Speaker 4: He's one of my fair people. I'm still fucking petrified
Speaker 4: with him. Yeah, but uh, and thank god we did that.
Speaker 4: He said, Cambus your boss, You're hired, and then also
Speaker 4: thank god to no end as the walking out gays
Speaker 4: just goes, do you have any nicknames? And I was like, oh, oh,
Speaker 4: my friend's called me Glenny Balls and thank god, thank
Speaker 4: god that stuck. If I don't, let me tell you,
Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck i'd bean. I didn't
Speaker 4: even have a major. I was a junior in college.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a major because I transferred and I
Speaker 4: was so bad, and man, yeah, I had to take
Speaker 4: remedial math. Didn't even take a class and then get
Speaker 4: a major. So it was bad.
Speaker 1: So it all worked out.
Speaker 4: Thank God. I truly don't I truly don't know what
Speaker 4: I'd be doing.
Speaker 1: This story should be called thank God.
Speaker 4: Like I have ten. Me and my friends are in
Speaker 4: like a ten person group chat. They're all accounts. I'm
Speaker 4: not cut out to be an account I don't know
Speaker 4: what the fuck i'd be doing.
Speaker 1: So is Caleb still your boss?
Speaker 4: I guess in a way theoretically, I mean during football
Speaker 4: season to do a sunny conversation, I'm just on the
Speaker 4: road with him all the time. So I guess the
Speaker 4: retically he's the boss.
Speaker 1: What's it been? What's it? What was it like?
Speaker 3: Like, you know, you were nervous around them meeting him
Speaker 3: for the interviews and stuff like that, Like, how's that?
Speaker 3: How's your mental on him? An idea of him shifted
Speaker 3: since working with him? Oh he's a great guy.
Speaker 4: But he's me and him. Me and him are very separate,
Speaker 4: lives on the road, you know. Yeah, Like he likes
Speaker 4: to hang out, he likes to golf and I like
Speaker 4: to full systems go. But I mean he's wonderful.
Speaker 1: He's you go out on your own.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's one thing the Sunny Cars taught me. I've
Speaker 4: I have learned to go out alone. I've learned to
Speaker 4: just the right places though, Like I could go and
Speaker 4: whenever we go to Miami, I stay in Delray Beach
Speaker 4: because I could go out in Delray Beach. I met
Speaker 4: people there. I met people here. I could go out here,
Speaker 4: like I can't go out alone in like Miami. You
Speaker 4: can't go to eleven alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I did go to eleven alone, like a month ago.
Speaker 4: I went to eleven alone and I was it was
Speaker 4: so intimidating. He was so scary. Thank god. Me and
Speaker 4: Caleb no one of the Uh, thank god, Sorry I'm
Speaker 4: saying thank you. I like Jesus. Okay, I went to
Speaker 4: Catholic High school and uh, I know one of the director,
Speaker 4: the director of operations. He like showed me around, So
Speaker 4: that was okay. At least I basically shadowed him for
Speaker 4: the night, which was pretty cool. But that's a place
Speaker 4: you can't go alone. I can't go to a club,
Speaker 4: loan do a bar, a little hockey talk feel whenever
Speaker 4: I'm in Scottsdale, a little rusty spur saloon. It's like
Speaker 4: the side of this bus. There, I could go out alone.
Speaker 4: But Miami, that's not place.
Speaker 1: And Caleb likes be in his hotel room. And then hill.
Speaker 4: Golf, Yeah, you just such a golf, like as a
Speaker 4: golf you think.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be a pro. Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 3: I do we Uh, this is a this is obviously
Speaker 3: an intro, right now, I gotta get yeah, yeah, let's
Speaker 3: get onto the good stuff. Did the tight are fucking
Speaker 3: eight and two victory Monday?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: It's victory Wednesday as you guys are listening, Uh, thank god.
Speaker 3: Their kicker sucks, man, I mean it's like they brought
Speaker 3: the kid from Nebraska up to out to New Orleans
Speaker 3: and you just shanked.
Speaker 1: Two extra points? Like yeah, what point?
Speaker 3: Like you're you're Sometimes I do feel bad for the kickers,
Speaker 3: I really do. I'm like, man, I bet there's a
Speaker 3: lot that they got there that's going on in there nogging,
Speaker 3: Like they do have some stressful, stressful times. But that's
Speaker 3: if you're missing like forty fifty yarders and game winners
Speaker 3: type shit, you're missing extra points. Like if you're Sean Payton,
Speaker 3: is it out of the question when the kicker runs
Speaker 3: off to the sideline like number one, nobody should dap
Speaker 3: you up, Like everybody DAPs up and still head butts
Speaker 3: hey my bad man, Like yeah, everybody's tight, Like, bro,
Speaker 3: make the fucking kick. And if you're a Sean Payne
Speaker 3: and he runs over, like, is he could he potentially
Speaker 3: just look at the kicker and point out him and
Speaker 3: say hey, fuck you, and that'd be okay.
Speaker 6: You definitely could. I don't know if it would be okay,
Speaker 6: but he could definitely do that.
Speaker 1: I would be so I would.
Speaker 3: I was almost pissed for the Saints, like, no, I'm
Speaker 3: stoked at the Boys one, but I'm sitting there watching
Speaker 3: due miss field goals.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how are you missing your extra points?
Speaker 4: I don't even know if I could be a kicker,
Speaker 4: solely based off the awkwardness. If you said you could
Speaker 4: be on kicker right now, I don't know if I'd
Speaker 4: do it. That must be such an awkward feeling. And
Speaker 4: go back on the Boston you're the one that missed
Speaker 4: the kicks, and shit.
Speaker 3: Bro, no doubt because they lose. They lose twenty three
Speaker 3: twenty one. My man misses two extra points, they're having
Speaker 3: to go for two.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: There, you know, wouldn't happen. The Boys would have adjusted.
Speaker 3: But based on this score, they're winning the game if
Speaker 3: they make their kicks.
Speaker 6: The misses weren't even in like high pressure situations. Man,
Speaker 6: right whether hit the kick, it's.
Speaker 3: Routine, classic New Orleans Nebraska case right here, you're losing
Speaker 3: because you can't special teams.
Speaker 1: Uh, Washington football team beats the Bucks.
Speaker 2: You said, what about Brady?
Speaker 1: Is Tom Brady? Why his father time catching up to
Speaker 1: Tom Brady?
Speaker 4: Hold the phone.
Speaker 1: You're a big time Brady.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I was at the Titans game. Yeah,
Speaker 4: today I was had a few beveragers. I didn't even
Speaker 4: look at the scores. The football team beat the Bucks.
Speaker 3: To Glen Glenny balls with this on Wednesday, just finding
Speaker 3: out that, uh, the Washington football team beats the Bucks
Speaker 3: twenty nine the night football tail to the Boys. Bro, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they beat the Bucks. Heinikey is arguably a better quarterback
Speaker 3: than Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: What the fuck, dude?
Speaker 4: I feel shocked right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at post game, you know, Brady, I saw PFT
Speaker 3: tweet like passing the torch and it's it's Tom Brady
Speaker 3: and Heinekey like hugging. That is wild though, Like I
Speaker 3: don't know, I feel like you can't panic, Like this
Speaker 3: stuff happens with any Tom Brady team.
Speaker 1: Everybody starts is he washed?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 1: This is he that? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm scared to say anything because you know he's gonna
Speaker 3: go off. You know he's gonna get hot late in
Speaker 3: the year.
Speaker 5: They play the Giants next week too, and that's oh yeah,
Speaker 5: they're gonna go.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna go Old Testament on the Giants.
Speaker 4: I would venture to make a responsible wager on the
Speaker 4: Possel Sports book.
Speaker 1: Yeah on, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 4: On the tap of Buccaneers, because that's gonna be a beat.
Speaker 4: I mean, we suck, We're really bad. Weren't coming off
Speaker 4: a bie week though, you know who Giants. I'm a
Speaker 4: Giants fan.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: That is tough.
Speaker 4: By the way, Can I just say, I know we
Speaker 4: talked about it with Darius. I think it's crazy that
Speaker 4: he thinks that Super Bowl six years old counts. I
Speaker 4: had a Super Bowl with the Giants I was I
Speaker 4: was fifteen, so I guess that's different. But six years
Speaker 4: old that I.
Speaker 3: Will say, just because it was Darius Rutger, I was
Speaker 3: like trying to stay a little more reserved. But I
Speaker 3: thought the same thing, like, I don't count my I
Speaker 3: don't count those super Bowls with the Cowboys when I.
Speaker 4: Was imagine you quite like once again, I literally love.
Speaker 4: He's been one of my fair people on the planet.
Speaker 4: After the two hours we just spat with him. But uh,
Speaker 4: he said he started being in a Doplin Salmon he
Speaker 4: was five, and then they won Super Bowl the next
Speaker 4: two years. That's it. Those are two super Bowls. Like,
Speaker 4: what don't you want to see what happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What a bandwagon?
Speaker 2: Yeah I was gonna call a bandwagon fan.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, But obviously he's riding with him now,
Speaker 1: so that's the good thing.
Speaker 4: No, I've seen him tweet about the Doplins like NonStop.
Speaker 4: He's a huge Doplins fan. Yeah, and they but yeah,
Speaker 4: his pre ten Let me tell you what, what a.
Speaker 1: Tiny zero to ten? Like he can't you can't necessary?
Speaker 4: What the time to get your first full season is
Speaker 4: the undefeated season.
Speaker 3: What a time to get involved with the Dolphins, dude?
Speaker 3: And then the Raiders. Bro the Raiders. Yeah, that was
Speaker 3: a tough loss. That was a tough loss to the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what to say about the loss either,
Speaker 3: Like I don't know if it's the Chiefs or it
Speaker 3: always sucks because I know, like following some Raiders fans there,
Speaker 3: they're getting so they get so pissed off because it
Speaker 3: seems like this is the point of the year when
Speaker 3: it happens or something starts to go hey wire and
Speaker 3: they crumble a.
Speaker 2: Little bit Jacksons.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Is a good point. I will say.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs have been winning games and Mahomes have been
Speaker 3: playing better. Did you see Mahomes the way he dapped
Speaker 3: up Jackson a couple of weeks ago. He shunned him,
Speaker 3: shunned him. Jackson would even make eye contact. Yeah, can
Speaker 3: we make a big deal about it and not actually
Speaker 3: be a real deal. Yes, But also we can read
Speaker 3: between the lines and Jackson seems like he wears.
Speaker 1: His heart on his sleeve.
Speaker 4: Jackson's got to retire, Yeah, I got it. No longer
Speaker 4: be allowed, It's easy.
Speaker 1: What what game was that too? What game were they at?
Speaker 4: They still barely won that game that was against the Giants,
Speaker 4: mother than in football, Yeah they didn't. They didn't, you guys.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he dabs up Jackson. But like that's we
Speaker 3: were talking about a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: But like, look at my man in the in those
Speaker 1: TikTok videos that are being made.
Speaker 4: That video makes me sad. I don't even want to
Speaker 4: look at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, clearly there's a conversation that happened. Okay, we
Speaker 3: we can't. We can't say that's facts, but in our
Speaker 3: universe we can kind of say that's it's pretty clear
Speaker 3: that a conversation happened because he DAPs them up and
Speaker 3: you don't see any of the TikTok videos anymore, which
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: Is the right move.
Speaker 4: That video right there with them at the bar, that's
Speaker 4: that's a man that needs a vacation away. He needs
Speaker 4: a solo vacation, and like, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like, give me out of this fucking life.
Speaker 3: Dude, that's speaking of get out, Like that's a that's
Speaker 3: a it's a get out video right there.
Speaker 1: He's just sitting there.
Speaker 4: He send help me.
Speaker 1: Out of here. Yeah, send help.
Speaker 3: Nebraskata bye week best three win two by week seven,
Speaker 3: lost team in the country. I saw somebody tweet that,
Speaker 3: and I agree wholeheartedly with that. It'll be interesting to
Speaker 3: see how they play out. They they play at Wisconsin
Speaker 3: next week. Their number nineteen, so I'm sure they'll give
Speaker 3: them a run for their money and squander at the
Speaker 3: end of the game. They won't squander it. The rest
Speaker 3: will fucking squander it late in the game. Because I'm
Speaker 3: still pissed about that PI call that they didn't call
Speaker 3: on Ohio State a couple weeks ago. Michigan beat Penn
Speaker 3: State twenty one to seventeen. I don't really know what
Speaker 3: to make of that, because it's kind of like Penn
Speaker 3: State they had hype at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 3: Who I really want to talk about Iowa. I won
Speaker 3: from two number two in the country, and now they're
Speaker 3: like a twenty Now they're like in the twenties or
Speaker 3: some shit like that. I do hope we win that game,
Speaker 3: but as I said last week's episode, I'm a little cynical.
Speaker 3: You kind of hope that Nebraska carries this torch of
Speaker 3: the best three win team in the country for.
Speaker 1: The rest of the year.
Speaker 3: Scott Frost has already coming back. It's already known. So
Speaker 3: what are we fighting for now?
Speaker 4: I don't even know. It's tough.
Speaker 3: It's confirmed, yeah, because he Scott. He fired four offensive
Speaker 3: coaches and he's coming back. I think they restructured his deal.
Speaker 3: I'm sure the buyout is now smaller to where if
Speaker 3: he has another bed year next year, he's probably next
Speaker 3: year he's gonna have to He's gonna have to win.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to put up.
Speaker 3: I was at eighteen now after they win last week
Speaker 3: against I don't even.
Speaker 2: Who was who they play?
Speaker 1: Who is in Minnesota?
Speaker 4: Have no idea, But dude, how about wake Forest at thirteen?
Speaker 4: They got a big win this week wake Forest?
Speaker 3: Dude, ACC they're the best team in the ACC right now,
Speaker 3: which how much does that say?
Speaker 4: Nothing? Honestly, AHC should be the AC this year. But
Speaker 4: still it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, wisconstant surprise of people who they played?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Was at Minnesota? Barely beat Minnesota? Like in Minnesota's not
Speaker 3: a good football team?
Speaker 4: Didn't it beat Nebraska?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Jake just coming in like I'm trying to like clearly,
Speaker 3: I'm smiling up here, making a little joke, and you
Speaker 3: gotta fucking come in there with that negative energy.
Speaker 5: But back on Iowa, Ioways gotta be cursed from when
Speaker 5: was it they beat Penn State and they were ranked
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Speaker 3: Uh, what else do we have before we get into
Speaker 3: this Darius Rutger Interview.
Speaker 1: Anything?
Speaker 6: Um do you see? Mike Vick came out and said
Speaker 6: in mad in two thousand and four, where he was
Speaker 6: like under to believe the best player in the game,
Speaker 6: he used to never plays himself. He used to plays
Speaker 6: like Peyton Manning and pocket passers.
Speaker 1: I can believe that. I can believe that. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: yeah me included.
Speaker 6: Good.
Speaker 4: Good for him honestly respect to him, because those guys
Speaker 4: are the war Were you playing a Madden online to
Speaker 4: the randoms you play with Michael Vick or Kyler? Fuck you?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But back in the day when it was oh four Madden,
Speaker 3: it was you had to play man up. You had
Speaker 3: to play like man up two man or man up
Speaker 3: three deep and have somebody spy the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I still don't know how to do it. You gotta
Speaker 4: just play with the spies. That's also could I say,
Speaker 4: one quick thing, you had.
Speaker 3: To pick a D lineman too, because you needed your
Speaker 3: backers everybody else in coverage.
Speaker 4: One quick thing? You should have be allowed to play Madden.
Speaker 4: Why you shouldn't be allowed? I don't play, but why
Speaker 4: because I football player should not be allowed to play Madden.
Speaker 4: It's literally not fair. And my buddy the reason I
Speaker 4: like w Forest. My buddy played went to wake Forest.
Speaker 4: He was like a fifth string quarterback for four years,
Speaker 4: but he still like knows football. Like playing him in
Speaker 4: Madden is like not fair because he gets to he
Speaker 4: understands the defenses, and shit, he knows how to actually
Speaker 4: do stuff. I don't know how to do stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what what do you mean?
Speaker 3: Was alliance to playing rukie mode, playing rookie mode, you
Speaker 3: feel good about to play, you just should be allowed
Speaker 3: to play. It's not fair, like you know what, when
Speaker 3: to Spy went to blitz, I'm like, what he's a
Speaker 3: calling out plays? It's not Yeah, but some dudes, some
Speaker 3: dudes like like yourself. If you're really good at Madden,
Speaker 3: there's party that wants to play football players at first,
Speaker 3: so you I'm assuming you've lost to some.
Speaker 1: Guys because at first you're probably like, oh, you all
Speaker 1: show them. I'll show this football player that I can
Speaker 1: beat them at the're kind of their own game.
Speaker 4: It's literally not fair. They haven't unfair advantage of the game.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't be a lot you play football. No Madden
Speaker 4: for you in my world.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: Let's you know. We're just meeting each other now, so
Speaker 3: you won't have to worry about that. But back when
Speaker 3: it was, back when it was you.
Speaker 4: Can play FIFA.
Speaker 1: That's a fun game. NHL is a fun game. I
Speaker 1: haven't got en a FIFA in a long time.
Speaker 4: To al FIFA is well, I'm not really into soccer,
Speaker 4: but FIFA, get you going.
Speaker 3: I gotta get this flex out there. I was a
Speaker 3: top two point eight percent in the world of mad
Speaker 3: in one year. I forget what year was. I want
Speaker 3: to say subtle golf clap. I think it was twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: fifteen six It was one of those years. That's when
Speaker 3: I retired. Hung them up, Hung up the cleats. Yeah,
Speaker 3: dud Darius was a great interview. We'll get onto that
Speaker 3: so we can knock these adds out because I don't
Speaker 3: have a whole lot of I don't have much time.
Speaker 3: I gotta get to this. Kenny Bell and I are
Speaker 3: doing this golf thing for the Big ten Network, and
Speaker 3: that should be.
Speaker 1: A lot of fun. But Darius Rutger was a was
Speaker 1: a phenomenal interview.
Speaker 4: I felt like, yeah, I mean that was that was scary.
Speaker 4: That was a timidator. I mean, you're sitting here with
Speaker 4: Darish Rucker. It's fucking Dirish Truck.
Speaker 1: Mister wagon wheel, Mister I did my best not to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 4: A whole lot exactly. Mean for me, it's mister Hooty
Speaker 4: to HOODI is like literally my favorite band. Like I
Speaker 4: was very shuck. It's that you were told not to
Speaker 4: call him Hoody. I was to say, said, don't call
Speaker 4: him Hoodia. I didn't call him whody, But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was. That was a timpating I don't get starstruck
Speaker 4: much that that was definitely a starstruck one.
Speaker 1: I want to say.
Speaker 3: It was just the energy too, like he's got the
Speaker 3: sports agency, Like he's got the negotiator vibe too, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And then we went toes on
Speaker 3: the Nebraska South Carolina. Everybody will get to listen. You said,
Speaker 3: it's a status sports argument, Like the people who listen
Speaker 3: to this, to this pot we got into Braska fans
Speaker 3: out there, They're gonna be yelling at the radio.
Speaker 4: It was a great argument, but the context of the
Speaker 4: argument was as bad as we're sitting here arguing Tennessee football,
Speaker 4: Nebraska football, South Carolina football, and Saint John's basketball. That's
Speaker 4: about the saddest four groups of colleges you can name.
Speaker 4: Right now.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what that we're proud. We're proud we
Speaker 3: put on for our squads. Anything I need to touch
Speaker 3: on that people might not know about Darius.
Speaker 4: Rutger, Oh, honestly, freaking the I had no idea about that.
Speaker 4: Frank Sinatra's birthday party, that's.
Speaker 3: I should listen. I was truly the peak I need
Speaker 3: to get out in front of this. Now I know
Speaker 3: who Freddie Mercury is. Of course I gotta get out
Speaker 3: in front of this now. It was it was I
Speaker 3: was trying to think of the question I was asking him.
Speaker 3: I don't know what equestrians was. I did not know
Speaker 3: what that was. I legitimately thought like, it sounds like
Speaker 3: a video game. I know it wasn't a video game,
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying that's what it sounded like. I
Speaker 3: did not know what a questrian championship was.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 3: That's how much Darius and I were arguing about South
Speaker 3: Carolina Nebraska. They apparently are equestrian champions and we're bowling
Speaker 3: champions and women's volleyball, which thank god, nobody fact checked
Speaker 3: me on the best volleyball team in the country.
Speaker 1: We are top five all the time. Though, we're gonna
Speaker 1: make tease.
Speaker 4: You should we should? You should make T shirts? Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: With the boys?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Why not?
Speaker 1: What do they call them? They call them the black Shorts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 3: I think the one volleyball team is like the black
Speaker 3: shorts to the black shirts. No, he said, yeah, that's
Speaker 3: off the top. Everybody listening, that's off the top. Uh
Speaker 3: still playing ball. Still playing ball. Yeah, still playing ball.
Speaker 3: I'm dabbling with a lot more of the thought of
Speaker 3: just going all energy, focusing on busting with the boys
Speaker 3: and just calling it a day because it's a weird vibe.
Speaker 3: Sitting in the middle, sitting in the gray area each
Speaker 3: and every week, because I get to get to let
Speaker 3: everybody know, to give everybody some perspective.
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 3: I go at like a week at a time, Like
Speaker 3: the weekend comes, I'm like, all right, Monday's coming the
Speaker 3: next week.
Speaker 1: That's usually when you get a call to go work
Speaker 1: out or do something.
Speaker 3: There's been a couple opportunities that popped up that didn't
Speaker 3: ultimately didn't end up working out, But Monday always comes up,
Speaker 3: and I find myself kind of like, do I really
Speaker 3: want to go play?
Speaker 1: Do I really want to actually go play?
Speaker 3: Or do I like the idea more of playing than
Speaker 3: you know, actually playing the game of ball now being
Speaker 3: like a thirty two year old and feeling it every day.
Speaker 3: But yeah, right now, still playing ball. People were curious
Speaker 3: last week talking about since Ronan Sas dropped, if that
Speaker 3: meant I was going to play somewhere. It does not.
Speaker 3: It just meant the boys we were grinding for season two.
Speaker 3: All of season two of bus Off Sessions was happening
Speaker 3: last week, so the shop was shut down for all
Speaker 3: that to happen. There's what ten or eleven artists that
Speaker 3: came through. Yeah, and that's on YouTube, soyb, I'll be
Speaker 3: able to find that. Tailgate Sunday was all time. We
Speaker 3: moved it from the rooftop down to the second floor,
Speaker 3: had a good showing after our Spootober Halloween showing. I
Speaker 3: was a little like, you know, what's it going to
Speaker 3: look like? We've been doing these tailgates all the time?
Speaker 3: Now is it can start to get a little diluted.
Speaker 1: But there were there was a lot of people as
Speaker 1: a good showing merch being sung around. It was a
Speaker 1: good vibe.
Speaker 3: And while the boys are making their layoff push and
Speaker 3: number one seed push throughout the end of the year,
Speaker 3: I expect me to be pretty packed up as the
Speaker 3: boys fucking start to get ready for the month of December.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another one this weekend against Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: Okay, Texans, either one either one brode either one bro
Speaker 3: Tailgate next Sunday gets the Texans be there. We're gonna
Speaker 3: be again slinging merch. We got some whistle Pick drink specials.
Speaker 3: Fire the Maple Old Fashion was my favorite.
Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, So.
Speaker 3: Without further ado, Darius Record episode Darius Rutger Episode Lenny Balls.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you being on, man.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me. This is a
Speaker 4: great time, Darius.
Speaker 1: Excited to have you on, Man.
Speaker 3: I'm a huge fan you, like, hey, legit, I know
Speaker 3: you get that a lot, but now that you're on
Speaker 3: Busting with the Boys, like you know, you're on something
Speaker 3: pretty prestigious as well. I just want you to know,
Speaker 3: as the host, I'm a huge fan. Did you you
Speaker 3: have fun with Glenny Balls in the Sunday Conversation?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did have a lot of fun. That was
Speaker 2: That was a lot of laughing going on in that room. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was good to watching.
Speaker 3: Uh, And I'm also a Glenny I'm a fan of
Speaker 3: the Sunday Conversation. Well, but you guys, going into the
Speaker 3: Sunday Conversation, do you know at all what Caleb's gonna
Speaker 3: ask you?
Speaker 2: No, I had no idea, and he's funny.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: But if you watched them before, oh yeah, that's that's
Speaker 4: a big thing. Like there are a lot of times
Speaker 4: when people don't watch and they go in and they
Speaker 4: have absolutely no idea, Like pac Man Jones wanted to
Speaker 4: fight Caleb really, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was the one before before the week of the fight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did it for Rocker Rowdy. He legit wanted
Speaker 4: to fight Caleb. He was scary and some people just
Speaker 4: don't know. Yeah, it's and sometimes Caleb doesn't yes crazy questions.
Speaker 3: He does, but you you would you would almost assume,
Speaker 3: like if you're gonna do a barstool segment, you would
Speaker 3: almost know what you're getting with somebody like Caleb.
Speaker 4: But the thing with pac Man two, yeah exactly, and
Speaker 4: like pac Man Effort. We watched some of the interviews
Speaker 4: with them, like we watched Ford Mayweather, we watched walk
Speaker 4: a Fu Flame and he was like, Oh, this is
Speaker 4: the funniest thing I've ever seen, and then he's fine
Speaker 4: with it. But going in blind he was mad.
Speaker 1: He had that dip into he was scary.
Speaker 4: He was ready to go.
Speaker 3: I thought the funniest question I've heard was Michael Irvin,
Speaker 3: what was it? He's like, journalists collect journals? What do
Speaker 3: analysts collect? Michael just started laughing his ass off, was like, man,
Speaker 3: how does he think of that?
Speaker 4: My favorite thing he's ever asked was fucking to Waka Flaka.
Speaker 4: In one of the Walker's songs, he says, I got
Speaker 4: a main bitch, a mistress, a couple of girlfriends. I'm
Speaker 4: so hood rich. Yeah, He's like, you're out it on yourself,
Speaker 4: just like we go to the next question.
Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious. So Darius, what what's new with you? Man?
Speaker 3: You've been in the game so long. I can't wait
Speaker 3: to dive in and peel back some layers.
Speaker 1: But what do you you have?
Speaker 2: A single masterpiece? My masterpiece. I got a record coming
Speaker 2: out sometime next year. I hope you'll get out before
Speaker 2: the tour. But uh, you know, just trying to make music, man,
Speaker 2: trying to make music.
Speaker 3: You still are you still super? I mean you obviously are.
Speaker 3: But what has changed for you? Because you're what fifty
Speaker 3: fifty fifty five now? Like, what has changed for you
Speaker 3: throughout all of these years of making music? Do you
Speaker 3: still feel the same burn or like maybe the flame
Speaker 3: burns a little bit differently.
Speaker 2: It burns differently, but it's still there. You still want
Speaker 2: to you know, I'm still trying to make albums and
Speaker 2: trying to, you know, just make music that people want
Speaker 2: to listen to. And it's still all I've ever wanted
Speaker 2: to do since I was a kid was playing music.
Speaker 2: So that was like four all I've ever wanted to do.
Speaker 2: And to be where I am right now and to
Speaker 2: still be able to do it on the stage I
Speaker 2: get to do it on is unbelievable. So I'm always
Speaker 2: burning the fire trying to do something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're going on that the intimate tour, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3: What made you want to do something like an intimate tour?
Speaker 3: Like get back to doing something a little more grassroots style,
Speaker 3: something like brought you a lot of joy back.
Speaker 1: In the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we did you know who do? He went
Speaker 2: pretty much straight from the clubs to the arenas, and
Speaker 2: we didn't really get to play a lot of those
Speaker 2: theaters that are around town, those old theaters that are
Speaker 2: around town, like the Beacon and places like that and
Speaker 2: the Orpheum Theater, and we just didn't play them. And
Speaker 2: so we were out doing festivals and and everything. It
Speaker 2: was great, and we I wanted to go out and
Speaker 2: do something just different and something small and some intimate.
Speaker 2: Don't you don't have to worry but ticket sales. Let's
Speaker 2: just go out and yeah, play some songs and have
Speaker 2: a good time. And so we decided to do like
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen dates in the winter and theaters we got
Speaker 2: I was really excited about. So it worked out great.
Speaker 3: With when you were saying, like you went from like
Speaker 3: clubs to arenas and stuff, is you guys fast tracked
Speaker 3: pretty quickly, like essentially got to skip some of these
Speaker 3: things that you're going back and doing now. Is what
Speaker 3: was like the moment or like what were certain situations
Speaker 3: that happened with Hoody and the Blowfish to where you
Speaker 3: guys fast tracked all the way to selling out arenas.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, we had been a band for like
Speaker 2: seven years playing clubs and uh, a moment that that
Speaker 2: had just changed. The moment that changed it all was
Speaker 2: when we did Letterman. Yeah, the night we did Letterman
Speaker 2: that Friday, we couldn't you know, we couldn't get anybody
Speaker 2: to play our song outside of the Carolinas and Georgia
Speaker 2: and and we did Letterman and that Monday everybody was
Speaker 2: at it. It really changed our lives.
Speaker 1: Over how'd you guys get on Letterman?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great story. Uh. He was driving home
Speaker 2: one night after filming the show, and the guy at
Speaker 2: not to see when I'm just an ali. But the
Speaker 2: guy I can't remember the big the big rock station
Speaker 2: in New York was. He was one of those DJs
Speaker 2: that just whatever he wanted, and so he heard hold
Speaker 2: My Hand. He wanted to play it on the show.
Speaker 2: And Dave was driving home and that's the only time
Speaker 2: the guy ever played the song at this point, and
Speaker 2: Dave was driving home and the guy played hold My Hand,
Speaker 2: and the legends that he pulled on the side of
Speaker 2: the road and called his booking agent and said, I
Speaker 2: want this is like a Tuesday, and said I want
Speaker 2: this is hooding the Wolfish band. And we were on
Speaker 2: that Friday. Oh got quick, Yeah, yeah, that is nuts, man.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 3: Well what was it like receiving the phone call, Hey,
Speaker 3: you guys are going to Letterman.
Speaker 2: We thought, I mean, we were such a Lettering fans.
Speaker 2: I mean we that was a religion for us. Watching
Speaker 2: Dave and and we I thought we thought our advantage
Speaker 2: was joking because we always messed with each other. Well
Speaker 2: we thought he was joking and he's like, no, let
Speaker 2: him in with you guys on Friday and the messed
Speaker 2: up thing. We had our biggest show in our hometown
Speaker 2: that same night, and so we're like a little worried,
Speaker 2: but uh, our label stepped up and said, we'll get
Speaker 2: you a plane.
Speaker 4: So they did both we did.
Speaker 2: Letterman got on the plane, landed in Columbia with a
Speaker 2: six car police escort to take us to the show.
Speaker 4: We were like, oh my god, though you know you're
Speaker 4: living as you started that story and saying ahead, I'm like,
Speaker 4: there's no way he'd played that show that night. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: That's what year was that.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody in sex back then. Ain't nobody spread the
Speaker 3: word with you gotta get to a landline. Hey baby,
Speaker 3: we're going on letters.
Speaker 4: Honestly, want to talk about vibes, talk about immaculate vibes.
Speaker 4: Imagine being on that plane top five.
Speaker 2: That was a pretty awesome ride for us. It was
Speaker 2: just us and I think one of our two of
Speaker 2: our managers, one of our managers, and it was surreal.
Speaker 2: We just played Letterman Man. We had just going to
Speaker 2: a hometown show.
Speaker 3: Truly, I know, I know, Man, you just gotta be
Speaker 3: writing Cloud nine the whole wayte being like, hey, boys,
Speaker 3: like we might start taking off, And sure enough.
Speaker 2: That's what it was like, because I mean grunge was
Speaker 2: king when this was happening, you know, and here comes
Speaker 2: this little pop rock band from South Carolina telling everybody
Speaker 2: to hold my hand, you know. And so it was
Speaker 2: really a fight for us to even Like there was
Speaker 2: even one guy at our label who right now, if
Speaker 2: you were talking to me, would claim that he signed us.
Speaker 2: I've heard him, but but the.
Speaker 1: Ya if I'm that guy too, you know, I found
Speaker 1: them boys.
Speaker 2: He actually went to our label of our he went
Speaker 2: he went to our label president and told him that
Speaker 2: if if if Atlantic put Cracked Review out, they would
Speaker 2: be the laughing stock of music if you put it out. Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 2: it's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's so It's just it's so interesting here, and especially
Speaker 3: Number one saying ninety four.
Speaker 1: I'm like five years old in ninety four, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and you're still like I was old and
Speaker 2: drunk in ninety four.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: Were there moments like with HOODI and the Blowfish. Obviously
Speaker 3: there's a plethora of moments, but were there certain moments
Speaker 3: that beat that initial like going going to Letterman taking
Speaker 3: off that stand out to you.
Speaker 2: I tell you a moment that we'll never forget. We
Speaker 2: were the Grammys and we figured we had to get
Speaker 2: Best New Artists, and when you're selling records, we had
Speaker 2: to give us best New Artist. So we don't get that.
Speaker 2: But you guys, you probably don't remember, but that's on Waterfall.
Speaker 2: But TLC was just massive that year, and so we
Speaker 2: thought we thought it was gonna win. There was up
Speaker 2: for six Grammys. We thought it was gonna win everything.
Speaker 2: And so they come up to the Best Vocal Performance by
Speaker 2: Duo on Group and we know it's our We just
Speaker 2: won the Best New Artists and so we've cloud nine.
Speaker 2: We got a Grammy. You can never take that away
Speaker 2: from us, you know. And we sit down because we
Speaker 2: have to. We think, you know, Waterfall is gonna win.
Speaker 2: And we sit there and kiss and make up for
Speaker 2: the first time since the seventies for the first time
Speaker 2: since the kiss, and Tupac's secure walk out to give
Speaker 2: this award, and so we're freaking out just because it's
Speaker 2: kissing Tupac. Yeah, kiss is one of the reasons I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there. Yeah, it was like, this is freaking Geanu
Speaker 2: sa full make up with Paul Stanley.
Speaker 1: And then around his house and all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're freaking out, and they walk out
Speaker 2: and they do the whole you know, nomination and everything.
Speaker 2: And Tupac opened the envelope and looked at the camera
Speaker 2: and said, my boys, Hooty and the Blowfish. And when
Speaker 2: he said that, that's a moment that will never I mean,
Speaker 2: that was awesome.
Speaker 1: And then you have to walk up there and accept
Speaker 1: walking seven hugging.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we hugged everybody, Yeah, hugging him tight.
Speaker 1: Trying to get away.
Speaker 4: He's like, I appreciate you, man.
Speaker 2: It was, it was, it was. That was an awesome moment.
Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 4: That really is wild. I'm thinking, like, remember your first
Speaker 4: show with the Garden was that quick after that?
Speaker 2: Uh, the Garden was probably a year, probably a year
Speaker 2: or so after that. I do remember our first show
Speaker 2: because the first show we played two shows, and it
Speaker 2: was the first time you got on the stage of
Speaker 2: the Garden. It was it was religious, It really was.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like the first time I played the Apollo.
Speaker 2: It was just it's religious. I mean, you can't believe
Speaker 2: you're getting to play these rooms that everybody plays it.
Speaker 2: And I mean if you get everybody who is somebody
Speaker 2: plays the Garden and you know, and you're not if
Speaker 2: you're not playing the Garden, you're so much.
Speaker 1: Man, that is nuts.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: Oh it was great, Like you're literally a rock star
Speaker 1: at this moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with your band too, like a group of guys
Speaker 3: because you guys are playing what what I read you
Speaker 3: guys were playing in a basement.
Speaker 1: It's a fraternity house or something like that.
Speaker 2: We played tons of Frattorney House and we were a
Speaker 2: band for seven years before we got a record deal.
Speaker 2: I mean, just playing every show. There was a couple
Speaker 2: of years we played like two hundred and fifty shows
Speaker 2: or something, and.
Speaker 3: How did you guys all know each other? Like, how'd
Speaker 3: you guys in college? Just in college and you guys
Speaker 3: could compliment each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were. We were living on the same dorm hall,
Speaker 2: me and Mark, our guitar player, And it was one morning.
Speaker 2: I thought everybody was in class and we had those
Speaker 2: prison showers, you know, yeah, just a bunch of shower right,
Speaker 2: And so I go in there and I just think
Speaker 2: I'm the only person in the dorm hall. And so
Speaker 2: I'm singing Billy Jewel's Honesty and I'm singing it to
Speaker 2: the top of my lungs. I mean, I'm really belting
Speaker 2: it out. And you know, you got the great sound
Speaker 2: in that back.
Speaker 3: It's acoustic in those locker room shower we call locker
Speaker 3: room showers, not prison showers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know.
Speaker 2: Then but uh, And I walked out to go to
Speaker 2: my room and Mark came up to me and said,
Speaker 2: was that you singing? And I was like, yeah, that
Speaker 2: was me, And you said I play guitar. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: let's get let's get together later see if we know
Speaker 2: any same songs. And the end of that day we did,
Speaker 2: and we knew a bunch of the same songs and
Speaker 2: we started playing together that day.
Speaker 3: And just imagine somebody comes in like, hey, boys, in
Speaker 3: seven years, you guys are gonna, yeah, be on a
Speaker 3: letter man, you guys are gonna be on private jets. Yeah,
Speaker 3: singing naked in a shower exactly.
Speaker 4: Seven years or so. That's crazy that that's a long time.
Speaker 4: It's a long time.
Speaker 2: It's a long time.
Speaker 4: Honestly, though, let me ask you this for let's say
Speaker 4: a month right now, if you could go back to
Speaker 4: those like first couple of years just touring down in
Speaker 4: the South and whatnot, that's what I feel like. The
Speaker 4: more money, more problems like that was probably the last time.
Speaker 2: People always ask me, I get this all the time.
Speaker 2: And you guys miss you miss when you guys with
Speaker 2: the biggest fan of the world. No, I missed when
Speaker 2: we were it was us against the world, playing the Winds,
Speaker 2: Ebber the Night and Mad Monk Tomorrow and you know,
Speaker 2: and then having to go up to Raleigh and play
Speaker 2: you know, the brewery. Those were the days.
Speaker 4: Man, that's awesome. And what was that just struck driving
Speaker 4: everywhere a vand that's awesome.
Speaker 2: The four of us and uh one another guy driving
Speaker 2: in the van really.
Speaker 3: Why why do you think that you missed those days?
Speaker 3: Because I feel the same way. Like sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, people are oh, do you miss like the
Speaker 3: best days of this and that, and you you kind
Speaker 3: of go back and like, man, you know, I wish
Speaker 3: I was back to where you're like grinding through high
Speaker 3: school or like trying to find a way to get
Speaker 3: a scholarship, or when you're in college, you're like, man,
Speaker 3: if I could just get on a practice squad, or
Speaker 3: if I could just do this, and you're kind of
Speaker 3: putting these processes together, Why do you feel like you
Speaker 3: missed those days of traveling just with the boys, Because
Speaker 3: because obviously in those days, you're like, man, if we
Speaker 3: can just catch our break one day, we'll get we'll
Speaker 3: make it. Then you finally make it, and now you
Speaker 3: actually perspective as you're missing the old days more.
Speaker 2: And I think those days, the only thing that was
Speaker 2: really important was the band. It was the four you know,
Speaker 2: the four of us were making it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I had girlfriends and everything, but you know they weren't important.
Speaker 2: And now you know, once you make it and you
Speaker 2: still get success and you're start getting married and having
Speaker 2: kids and everything just priority change and things aren't as important.
Speaker 2: You know, the music is important, but it's not as
Speaker 2: important because youve got you know, kids, and you got
Speaker 2: your wife and you got all that stuff. So it's
Speaker 2: becomes a different animal. But I remember how dedicated we
Speaker 2: were and how how close we were. That's the thing
Speaker 2: I missed the most. We were so close. It was
Speaker 2: one of those things where we go on the road
Speaker 2: for two weeks. You know, you come home, you drop
Speaker 2: everybody off, and then an hour later you're calling each
Speaker 2: other to meet up and go drinking that night. So
Speaker 2: I missed those days. But you know, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: complain about these days.
Speaker 3: I'm just always intrigued and interested, like when people have
Speaker 3: those kinds of answers, because obviously you think back on
Speaker 3: probably characteristics you guys all had individually that your band
Speaker 3: had with you know, grit, shout out, chevy, grit, determination, reliable.
Speaker 2: That's actually one of the things that always really gets me,
Speaker 2: makes me laugh, is no matter what we do, the
Speaker 2: second the four of us get back together, we fall
Speaker 2: right into the same thing. I mean, it's shocking to
Speaker 2: me how it's the high and everything falls right back
Speaker 2: into what it was and we'd go do what we do,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's just it's what it is
Speaker 2: with the four of us.
Speaker 3: And like you said, like you wouldn't trade your life,
Speaker 3: like we wouldn't trade in this stuff. But when you
Speaker 3: do fall into those to those folds of like getting
Speaker 3: the boys back together, you're just like, man, like, this
Speaker 3: is actually what we enjoyed the most, Like all that
Speaker 3: other stuff.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 3: It's not like it doesn't mean nothing, but you're like,
Speaker 3: you know, you put it on this pedestal and then
Speaker 3: once you get there, like everything else, you're like, oh, man, this.
Speaker 1: Is the stuff we love the most about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean for me it was the shows were important
Speaker 2: and great, don't get me know. That was you know,
Speaker 2: getting the go play, but like it was everything else
Speaker 2: with the four of us. I mean, just how funny
Speaker 2: everybody was. The music I got turned on too, that
Speaker 2: I would have never heard, just riding around in the van,
Speaker 2: you know, just busting each other's balls and and and
Speaker 2: keeping each other in line and having every all the nastayers,
Speaker 2: all the people tell us, you know, you can't make
Speaker 2: it out of South Carolina, all the people saying, you know,
Speaker 2: grun just king you guys are never gonna get a
Speaker 2: record deal. It's gonna you know, all that stuff we had,
Speaker 2: We follow all that stuff, and I look at it now.
Speaker 3: And you know, all right, yeah, oh yeah, man, what
Speaker 3: when you guys separated? I don't know a whole lot
Speaker 3: about that. So maybe you can teach me or educate
Speaker 3: me on how you guys separate. It wasn't just because
Speaker 3: you were gonna people were gonna do solos and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. Was there a little bit of a breakup
Speaker 3: was It wasn't really a breakup per se.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with If this hadn't happened, we just
Speaker 2: you know, we we've been playing theaters this week, and
Speaker 2: we'd still be playing. I'd be playing with but uh,
Speaker 2: one of the guys in the band just came up
Speaker 2: one day. We were on tour. We toured every summer.
Speaker 2: It was like a job, was what we did, you know.
Speaker 2: And he came up one day and called a band meeting,
Speaker 2: which we never have band meetings. Then it goes to
Speaker 2: my buss and goes we got a band, and so
Speaker 2: we go in and he said he didn't want to
Speaker 2: be in a touring band anymore, and we uh and
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 3: Because of other aspirations, okay, other things in his life.
Speaker 2: Other things in his life, and he just didn't want
Speaker 2: to do anymore. The four of us are abandoned. We
Speaker 2: can't we couldn't just go okay, We'll just get somebody
Speaker 2: else to play. That's just not what we do. And
Speaker 2: so I remember when he said it. I just thought,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm gonna go to Nasville now, because I've
Speaker 2: always talked about doing it, but there was never really
Speaker 2: any time to do it or think about it because
Speaker 2: were always doing hooty stuff. And I just thought I'd
Speaker 2: come to Nashville, and you see what happens.
Speaker 1: How nervous were you?
Speaker 2: Iant nervous because I don't think anything was going to happen.
Speaker 2: All I really cared was I wanted to make a
Speaker 2: country record. I would have been happy doing it at
Speaker 2: our studio in Charleston with my friends mm hm, you know,
Speaker 2: and my manager at the time, Doc McGee, who's just
Speaker 2: a legend in our business. I just I mentioned it
Speaker 2: to him. But I wasn't even looking for a record deal,
Speaker 2: just because I didn't think I could get one. I mean,
Speaker 2: who's going to give the black pop singer Solf kind
Speaker 2: of country music deal because back then there was anybody
Speaker 2: who look at me on country radio. And he got
Speaker 2: me a record deal. And once I got the record deal,
Speaker 2: I started talking to Mike Dungan, who's the president of
Speaker 2: university who signed me, and he was really wanted this
Speaker 2: to work. And I knew if I gave him a record,
Speaker 2: it was going to work. And you know, like he said,
Speaker 2: I gave him a record. Damn.
Speaker 3: What was it like being a black man going into
Speaker 3: the country world.
Speaker 2: I did. I did. They didn't think I would do it,
Speaker 2: but I said I would do it. I did a
Speaker 2: radio tour. I went to like one hundred and ten
Speaker 2: radio stations like three or four day.
Speaker 1: What do you do on these radio station tours.
Speaker 2: Go in and you play a song for them and
Speaker 2: their lounge, or you play a song on the radio,
Speaker 2: or you go in and you talk. If you're lucky,
Speaker 2: they'll put you on the radio and play your single.
Speaker 2: You know, so you're not even guaranteed to go on
Speaker 2: the radio that day.
Speaker 3: No, usually go on all these radio stations like let's
Speaker 3: hope they freaking put it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And it was so oh I'm out there
Speaker 2: for a couple of months one hundred and ten, and dude,
Speaker 2: I would go, there was in these three dudes, and
Speaker 2: I love these dudes like that right now, they're my
Speaker 2: they are my biggest supporters. Like if I need good
Speaker 2: number one, they'll play it two times in a row. Accidentally,
Speaker 2: you know, he's got a big supporters of my but uh,
Speaker 2: and I respect them so much for this. They said
Speaker 2: it the exact same way. All three They said, I
Speaker 2: don't think my audience, this is four to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: I don't think my audience will accept the black country
Speaker 2: scene was what I was told. And they were like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play it. I want to see you know,
Speaker 2: I'll play because I think it's a good song as
Speaker 2: a country song, and I you know, but I don't
Speaker 2: think they're gonna they're gonna accept it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, yeah, how are you reacting
Speaker 1: to hear something like that?
Speaker 3: Like you're pretty probably like you know, you're probably surprised,
Speaker 3: but also at the same time, you're like, of course
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, they're telling.
Speaker 2: Me that you don't have to when you really think
Speaker 2: about it, I thought, you don't have to tell me.
Speaker 2: You could see it. You know, it had been twenty
Speaker 2: five years since Charley Pride had his last hit. In
Speaker 2: twenty five years, nobody had a top twenty five. That
Speaker 2: was you know, Treny Triggs and all those you know,
Speaker 2: Recy Palmer and all these people, all these black countries
Speaker 2: things I knew of. I thought one guy would have
Speaker 2: slipped up and had a top twenty five. And yeah,
Speaker 2: no one even had a top twenty five since Charlie Pride,
Speaker 2: and that that was crazy to me, you know, because
Speaker 2: I honestly, I know, I have a lot of naivity
Speaker 2: to me, and I don't see things sometimes because I
Speaker 2: didn't think about the black thing. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: make country music right, And then people start talking about it,
Speaker 2: and then I start researching and you realized, wow, it's
Speaker 2: really been twenty five years and the only person who
Speaker 2: did it before me was Drawing. You know, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: So how's your mental shifting? Like when when this stuff's
Speaker 3: happening or when it starts getting played on the radio.
Speaker 3: You getting good feedback, getting good feedback?
Speaker 2: You know, I think that the Hootie thing, as much
Speaker 2: as it hurt me, it hurt me helped me because
Speaker 2: people knew me and my reputation and and so they
Speaker 2: were giving it a shot and started playing, working and working,
Speaker 2: and then when don't Think I Think. When my first
Speaker 2: single don't Think, I Don't Think about It went to
Speaker 2: number one, was when you could see there was something different.
Speaker 2: And then the second song went to number one, and
Speaker 2: then the third song went to number one, and that's
Speaker 2: when I think other labels were like, you know, we
Speaker 2: were wrong. They are accepted. That's when you know King
Speaker 2: gets his deal and Jimmy it's his deal, and you
Speaker 2: know things start to change a little.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because, uh, the only real thing I know in
Speaker 3: like the history of music and bands breaking up in
Speaker 3: a solo guy going to do his own thing. Who's
Speaker 3: the Who's the lead guy? I sound ridiculous right now?
Speaker 3: The lead guy with Queen do the Mover?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Freddie Mercury, Sorry, I know terrible right now, he's.
Speaker 2: Got a podcast that he said who's the lead?
Speaker 3: When it's going in my head and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: want to ask no question. Listen, I'm being vulnerable in
Speaker 3: front of you guys right now. But anyway, watching the
Speaker 3: movie Bohemian Rhapsody and kind of learning about the history
Speaker 3: of Queen. When he breaks off and Freddy does his
Speaker 3: own thing, he obviously doesn't have as much success as
Speaker 3: he did when the band was together. You're now you
Speaker 3: basically essentially made another career going off doing your thing solo.
Speaker 3: So did you ever were you ever nervous about going
Speaker 3: on your own from that nature, because you're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I got I had some success from Hooty and the Blowfish,
Speaker 3: but so did Freddy with Queen, but it didn't pay
Speaker 3: off for him, and it's payoff for you. And you're
Speaker 3: a black dude in country music bringing this stuff in
Speaker 3: a in a country world.
Speaker 2: I was once it really started, I was really nervous
Speaker 2: because you there's, like you said, who leaves a band
Speaker 2: that had that much success and actually has success and
Speaker 2: not just that in a whole different genre. Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: you know, and and especially going to the you know,
Speaker 2: the they call what we call them carpetbaggers and country music.
Speaker 2: You know, those pop stars like you saw a flush
Speaker 2: of it after I made it, like these big pop
Speaker 2: names saying they're gonna make their country record, you know,
Speaker 2: and country fans see through that harm. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 2: been one of those things where I was worried about it,
Speaker 2: but I really knew win or lose. You know, I
Speaker 2: was going to get to make my record and I
Speaker 2: had the label behind me, so I figured I had
Speaker 2: a good chance to win. And if I if I,
Speaker 2: if I delivered the music.
Speaker 6: Today's world where like are we accept that artists are
Speaker 6: more diverse than their musical taste, where they can kind
Speaker 6: of cross genre and everything. Do you think that if
Speaker 6: you came up with Hoody and the Blowfish now you
Speaker 6: could have also done the country thing at the same time,
Speaker 6: or do you think you still would have had to
Speaker 6: kind of like graduate from that chapter.
Speaker 2: Oh? I think if hood he came up right now,
Speaker 2: we'd have to be a country band. We would have
Speaker 2: to be I mean, there's there's no room for rock
Speaker 2: and roll in pop, in the pop world at all.
Speaker 4: I don't even know a band right now.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't man skin and the only main
Speaker 2: skin or whatever. And the only way to know because
Speaker 2: I saw the Stones the other day.
Speaker 4: With the Stones, the only band I could really name
Speaker 4: off the top of my head that's like still playing,
Speaker 4: that's on the come up is that credit Van VP band.
Speaker 4: It's crazy, but like I really don't know any bands.
Speaker 4: It's really not a thing.
Speaker 2: It's crazy to me to look at the music landscape
Speaker 2: and to realize that rock and roll is dead because
Speaker 2: for our lives growing up, rock and roll was king,
Speaker 2: you know, it was, it was, And now you look
Speaker 2: at it and there's not a rock band on pop station.
Speaker 2: It's all urban and pop stuff. And you know the
Speaker 2: tagal country song that crosses over, but it's crazy like
Speaker 2: band like us, like us, kind of CRUs any band
Speaker 2: like that. If we came out today, we'd be we'd
Speaker 2: be country because Zach Brown band in ninety four would
Speaker 2: have been selling half million records a week on pop radio.
Speaker 2: He would have been killing in on pop radio. I mean,
Speaker 2: but you know today he's a country Do.
Speaker 1: You think that stuff will come back around? Like do
Speaker 1: you think Rockell?
Speaker 2: I hope so, but I don't. I don't see it.
Speaker 4: I don't think so either. I think it's it's scary,
Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to think right now off the top
Speaker 4: of my head, like a rock band playing in a
Speaker 4: Rita tour right now, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: There's none that's not a nostalgia band. There's not one
Speaker 2: band who's like all right right right now? You know,
Speaker 2: I'm a room five. But you know, when was the
Speaker 2: last time they were rock.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like even me, I'm younger, I
Speaker 4: have like my playlists where I get like my banger's
Speaker 4: going before I go out a little pregame action. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's not one new rock song on there cause I
Speaker 4: don't even I don't know where to find them.
Speaker 2: Kids don't care. The kids aren't looking for and don't
Speaker 2: and they obviously don't care because if they were looking
Speaker 2: for it in today's climbing, you can find it, you know,
Speaker 2: it's so easy to get on line and find whatever.
Speaker 2: But they don't want it. They want rap and they
Speaker 2: want pop, and they want you know, that great Post
Speaker 2: Malone right who's right in the middle and both you know.
Speaker 4: That's DMO. People love you DM.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then also but that's the method thing. They
Speaker 2: also want to you know, they also want Miranda Lambert
Speaker 2: and they also want Luke Colmbs because nowadays you always
Speaker 2: hear that you some guys, you know, somebody to open
Speaker 2: the car and their Post Malone's playing, and right after
Speaker 2: that there's a country. So right after that there's walk
Speaker 2: a fockle, you know, and that's what the kids are
Speaker 2: doing now. But there's no room for rock and roll.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'd venture to guess, like the new rock
Speaker 4: and roll theoretically is the country music. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 4: got I think my first country guards that I went to.
Speaker 4: I went, like Jason Aldean, probably like ten years ago.
Speaker 4: I said to myself, it was just a a rock
Speaker 4: concert pretty much with some access. That's absolutely it's absolutely what.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts on post Malone's cover only want to be
Speaker 3: with you?
Speaker 2: I thought it was absolute genius. I posted man, I
Speaker 2: was for some reason.
Speaker 1: I was like, is he about say garbage?
Speaker 2: Post Man?
Speaker 1: That was absolute guard.
Speaker 2: I think I really thought it was genius. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's a buddy mine and he said, you know, send
Speaker 2: me a know. I was got a surprise for you,
Speaker 2: and it comes out and it was, you know, have
Speaker 2: somebody cover HOODI song, somebody that big to cover Hoodie
Speaker 2: song and then do it the way he did it
Speaker 2: with such respect to the song. I mean that was
Speaker 2: that was pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's got it's it's kind of like your guys'
Speaker 3: legacy going through generations.
Speaker 2: Man, it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: What uh? I see?
Speaker 3: You also have a sports agency, Yes, I do. How
Speaker 3: do you get into all this stuff outside of music?
Speaker 3: When did you start to find time to tap into
Speaker 3: other interests, like while you were being an artist.
Speaker 2: The last probably really ten or so years, I've really
Speaker 2: started to try to do other stuff just because I
Speaker 2: get a lot of offers and I always say no
Speaker 2: because it's gonna be too much work. Now, like with
Speaker 2: the sports agency. When that came around and and I
Speaker 2: wanted to get into that with my buddy, that was
Speaker 2: just a no brainer. I love the NFL, and you know,
Speaker 2: we only have the NFL. We only have NFL players
Speaker 2: and golfers. Yeah, and my two favorite things in the
Speaker 2: world NFL and playing golf. And you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: that guy. I'm not an agent. You know, I'm not
Speaker 2: even that you know, I'm that guy who just talks
Speaker 2: to the guys and you know you want to talk
Speaker 2: about you know, if you want to talk.
Speaker 1: To the closer to the closer.
Speaker 2: I've closed a couple of deers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get Darius. I know we're singing in living
Speaker 3: rooms of the family.
Speaker 2: I know we're about to close. When I get that phone,
Speaker 2: go hey, could you be on a zoom call tomorrow?
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I got a close. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: could do that. I could do that.
Speaker 3: What what makes you such a huge Dolphins fan. I'm
Speaker 3: not a Carolina fan.
Speaker 2: I was five years old and my whole family I had,
Speaker 2: my mom had two sisters, and it was fifteen of
Speaker 2: us kids, and we were having a party for the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and everybody is over at our house, and
Speaker 2: so I'm a five year old. I go around and
Speaker 2: I ask everybody who they're pulling for the Dallas. It's
Speaker 2: seventy one. I think seventy one Dallas Miami. That's all
Speaker 2: my family who they're pulling for. And everybody says the
Speaker 2: Cowboys and white sheep of the family. There of course goes, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm pulling for the Dolphins. I'm pulling for Dolphins. And
Speaker 2: I remember when they lost, crying like a little bit.
Speaker 2: I cried like a little baby. I was so upset
Speaker 2: that they lost. And then the next year, that's just.
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Speaker 2: Walking three hours pantom And then the next year I
Speaker 2: started playing Pop Warner and they went undefeated. So it's
Speaker 2: easy to be a fan. Your team's winning every week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then they go undefeated.
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Speaker 4: You gotta get your preno on this. We mentioned this
Speaker 4: in the Sunday conversation before uh Darius asked him if
Speaker 4: you'd rather see the Game Cocks winnst Championship or Dolphin
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, and he said he's seen the Dolphins Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: What you say, or it's gonna be a national championship? Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: you guys like we gotta win the national champion.
Speaker 1: That's like big enough. He throws his hand around. That's
Speaker 1: like big enough.
Speaker 4: Like I'm a st. John's just give him the sec
Speaker 4: cham Sat John's basketball fan. I know when never won
Speaker 4: in the national Championship, but one of the big East
Speaker 4: ones would That would be pretty legit. I feel like
Speaker 4: that's the same way.
Speaker 3: With yeah, but that's a little disrespectful. This is a
Speaker 3: this is a South Carolina. This is South Carolina game cock.
Speaker 3: This isn't no disrespect. But who's Saint John? Who?
Speaker 2: You played basketball?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: The biggest we played we played football in the SEC.
Speaker 2: If we win the SEC, we should be winning the
Speaker 2: national championship.
Speaker 3: The people love they said St John Saint John's.
Speaker 1: He said, man, you know a big east like who
Speaker 1: who is sat?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: Everyone knows who Sat John's.
Speaker 4: We're a good basketball school, were good in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but come on, man.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, so was tang.
Speaker 4: I would be more than happy with the biggiest championship.
Speaker 2: I would not be happy with the nasty championship and
Speaker 2: not a national championship that would not people.
Speaker 3: On the so so South South Carolina National Championship or
Speaker 3: Miami Dollars Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I've seen two Dolphins super Bowls. Wo have to be
Speaker 2: South Contern National And he says, I haven't seen.
Speaker 4: Them about before. I feel like it doesn't count. If
Speaker 4: you were six and seven, Absolutely I'm a Giants fan.
Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was ten and fourteen don't count.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 3: Like growing up, I was I was a I was
Speaker 3: a Dallas fan and I was growing up in the nineties,
Speaker 3: so I feel weird claiming.
Speaker 1: Like I got this. I got to see the Dallas time.
Speaker 2: Them both, and yep, I actually found over.
Speaker 3: Like I remember eating little smokies in the living room
Speaker 3: watching me like, yeah, the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: You know, let me rerise it. You saw them, you
Speaker 4: didn't get to enjoy them.
Speaker 2: I talked trash my friends for three hundred and six
Speaker 2: seven hundred.
Speaker 1: In elementary school.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what we did, was talk trash.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's got to be the line for the Dolphins winning.
Speaker 2: Electric football set Dolphins, and every time somebody's house, I
Speaker 2: can say the World champions the World champions are coming over.
Speaker 1: What were you gonna ask for Nebraska?
Speaker 4: I was about to say, like, would the cornhotsk Pans
Speaker 4: be hyped over a Big Ten championship today?
Speaker 2: They should be.
Speaker 3: Wa we're just taking some random as of shots all
Speaker 3: were clapping about back there. I got to play in
Speaker 3: a Big Ten championship and that was what that wasn't
Speaker 3: a that wasn't even a decade ago. Like, when's the
Speaker 3: last time once you said you wouldn't be happy for
Speaker 3: South Carolina SEC championship. When's the last time South Carolina's
Speaker 3: got gone to an SEC championship once? But you said
Speaker 3: you wouldn't be happy for a conference I want if
Speaker 3: we win the SEC, we should be winning the So
Speaker 3: you think I should be happy with just getting a
Speaker 3: Big Ten title when we've been to the Big Ten
Speaker 3: championship and we haven't even been in the Big team.
Speaker 3: We haven't even been in the we haven't even been
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten conference for like ten years.
Speaker 1: We've already been once. What's that mean? We got more
Speaker 1: We got more teams in the top ten right now
Speaker 1: than the SEC does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but none of y'all want to come play anybody success, man,
Speaker 2: We'll take y'all. Come play Vanderbilt. Okay, get out.
Speaker 1: Here, man, such a that's like a school of the
Speaker 1: that's like a school of the blind.
Speaker 3: Anybody's telling you we can beat Vanderbilt right now, that's
Speaker 3: how bad it is.
Speaker 2: We all No, man, y'all put put Vanderbilt on your schedule.
Speaker 2: Get upset for home coming.
Speaker 5: We be.
Speaker 2: We beat dogging Vanderbilt.
Speaker 6: What is this?
Speaker 4: Go do?
Speaker 2: What do you you gonna play football? We're Catholic basketball school.
Speaker 2: Partial here. We want to get play football, argue.
Speaker 1: Like you got Bama.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, well we got you what you guys got.
Speaker 1: You guys got a Davion Clowney highlight hit. What else?
Speaker 2: You guys got a lot of great fans, great women's
Speaker 2: basketball team. Yeah, we have the best women's basketball team
Speaker 2: in the in the country.
Speaker 1: We got the best women's volleyball team.
Speaker 2: In the We have the best strian team in the country.
Speaker 3: We got the best bowling team in the country with
Speaker 3: our girls riding the horse. Not everyone doesn't think I'm
Speaker 3: a real last corn huster to tell you, man, dude, seriously,
Speaker 3: our questrian team won the question.
Speaker 2: They won the question of national championship, and I get
Speaker 2: I get all the rings. Like when we win the championship,
Speaker 2: I'm a big supporter, so I get all the rings.
Speaker 2: The Equestrian National Championship ring was so gaudy. It was
Speaker 2: a freaking super bowling. It was so good.
Speaker 1: You walk around like, oh, I put it.
Speaker 2: On to go to games. I walk around like, I
Speaker 2: think it's huge from the golf course with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the final stage your life, you're be the A D.
Speaker 2: That's my goal, the a D. Just acting. I don't
Speaker 2: want to dub for a long time, just like six
Speaker 2: months to some ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two music.
Speaker 3: Careers, getting a sports agency. He knows the game with athletes,
Speaker 3: a huge fan. Sounds like a booster since he gets Natty,
Speaker 3: since he gets Natty rings. Yeah, legitimately, though, what is it?
Speaker 1: Question?
Speaker 2: The question?
Speaker 1: The question? What is that sport?
Speaker 2: Ladies ride horse? There is? It's so good. Mine's got
Speaker 2: a big ruby in the middle.
Speaker 1: A question. Yeah, I'm like thinking of a video game,
Speaker 1: like yeah, like a questrian. I don't know, like the
Speaker 1: it has the galactic questrian.
Speaker 2: This horseback riding.
Speaker 3: Oh for real, what did they call horseback riding? Because
Speaker 3: with the horseback riding chance of the country, we are?
Speaker 2: We are?
Speaker 4: Does sound the horseback ride?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're champions, champions.
Speaker 1: How do you How do you win an a questrian title?
Speaker 2: You ride horses really well?
Speaker 1: And then it's just like the look of the horse
Speaker 1: like you're kind of like it's kind of a dog show.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not judging it. He's like, I just
Speaker 2: got the ring. The ring, that's all I'm doing. The
Speaker 2: most recent ring you've gone, Uh, the there are I'm
Speaker 2: I'm the honorary coach of the of our women's golf team.
Speaker 2: So we uh won the SEC championship, and I got.
Speaker 4: A I gotta take like a Tom Brady picture.
Speaker 2: I do, right, they see that. Don't mess with our
Speaker 2: girls ride horses. You can't.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: And you're the you're the women's coach of the you
Speaker 3: said the golf team, yes for South Carolina.
Speaker 1: Yes, And you guys want an SEC title, yes, but.
Speaker 2: We got you know, Hoody the Wolfish. We have a
Speaker 2: golf tournament called the Hoodie That it's a men's a
Speaker 2: men's college golf tournament. Okay, we have last year, I
Speaker 2: think we had ten of the top twenty five. And
Speaker 2: I have a golf tournament that helped the head called
Speaker 2: the Darius Rucker Invitation, which is a women's college golf tournament.
Speaker 2: And you know, South Carolina hosts, and so I'm the
Speaker 2: honorary cap. I'm the honorary coach of the team, which
Speaker 2: is very good because I'm a very good golf teacher.
Speaker 2: And so you know, you know what sucks about I
Speaker 2: got I gotta play with you. I play with these girls,
Speaker 2: you know, I played with them once a year, and
Speaker 2: you I get out there and there's some girl who's
Speaker 2: five to hitting the ball, thirty ars.
Speaker 1: You're teaching her to do that?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, man, he's got He's got me fired
Speaker 3: up because he triggered me with all that big ten
Speaker 3: Nebraska talk. I'm just saying, and Jack, you're back there
Speaker 3: clapping and laughing. But let's not act like Tennessee's like.
Speaker 3: Let's not act like we're proud of Tennessee right now.
Speaker 5: I mean, we're putting up a fight more than Nebraska
Speaker 5: three and seven two by weeks.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, we're the best three where the we
Speaker 1: are the best three win team in the country.
Speaker 2: Though, who do you guys have?
Speaker 1: Are we about to really go toe for toe on
Speaker 1: these schedules right now?
Speaker 2: You're not You're not gonna go toe to toe on
Speaker 2: the SEC schedule? Are you kidding?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: We go SEC schedule?
Speaker 2: Can you guys beat Vanderbilt? Yes, but you can't.
Speaker 1: Yes, we could. You could bring up the schedule.
Speaker 2: We would take the I would take Vanderbilt, you name
Speaker 2: it right now.
Speaker 3: You're just talking out of your ass right now, Darius,
Speaker 3: I was gonna play wagon we after this on the
Speaker 3: way to the golf course. I ain't playing it no more. Man,
Speaker 3: No who you got be? You beat a n c State. Okay,
Speaker 3: be by Kentucky. They're not even that nice. What they're not?
Speaker 3: I will say, you put up a competitive fight against
Speaker 3: A and M because A and M beat Bama.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: You guys put up a good fight there, George.
Speaker 2: We put up ten points on Georgia. That's like fifty
Speaker 2: against anybody else.
Speaker 1: You guys lost to South Carolina, Jack.
Speaker 5: Tennessee, Yeah, Tennessee schedule. We didn't lose South Carolina. We
Speaker 5: beat South Carolina about like thirty five.
Speaker 1: Is this the right schedule?
Speaker 2: That's old?
Speaker 1: You haven't fired up for?
Speaker 2: Yeah? We beat them last year. They cheated this year.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: You sound like me.
Speaker 1: Ever, we had a podcast.
Speaker 3: We played Oklahoma, Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State, all top
Speaker 3: ten teams, and collective we lost to them one hundred
Speaker 3: and eight?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 1: Ninety two?
Speaker 4: Is the saddest sports conversation it.
Speaker 7: Is your team's got three wins and you're trying to Yeah,
Speaker 7: Darius and Will go toes on South Carolina Nebraska, the
Speaker 7: proudest guys of their schools, just arguing.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would I wish we played Nebraska this year?
Speaker 1: I do too, man, And what sucks is JP is
Speaker 1: a huge South Carolina fans.
Speaker 2: So we're playing year that would definitely be homecoming.
Speaker 3: We mind the Bollway. I was gonna say, a ball game.
Speaker 3: We ain't making a bowl game? Are you guys going
Speaker 3: to make a bowl game. It's like I said to
Speaker 3: my son the other day, we'd be Florida. My son's
Speaker 3: huge game cock Dad, we might, we might went out.
Speaker 2: I was like, we probably won't win out, but we'll
Speaker 2: probably want one more game to a shitty bulgame that
Speaker 2: you're gonna make me go to.
Speaker 3: You'll took them up with the gifts. Maybe you'll get
Speaker 3: the gifts the bowl game gifts?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, always what gets you there? What gets you
Speaker 4: to your game? Like SEC championship, you're obviously going. How
Speaker 4: often do you go every and go to every game?
Speaker 2: I can go to. I'm not working, I'm at the game,
Speaker 2: the bowl game. I'm going, Oh that's awesome, we're going.
Speaker 1: So you travel? Do you travel to their away games to?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I won't go to away games. That's just a flight
Speaker 2: waiting to happen.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a fight.
Speaker 2: Some exceptions, though, I don't go to any away agains.
Speaker 4: Never my l s U.
Speaker 2: I haven't been a l s U. But but like like,
Speaker 2: I won't go again. I've been a game of Clempson.
Speaker 2: I'll never do that again. I'm never going to game
Speaker 2: called game and Clemson ever again.
Speaker 1: And though those are those are that's the rivalry, right Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you'll never go to.
Speaker 3: A Clemson game ever again. That means you've went to
Speaker 3: a game and it ended badly. Didn't end badly, it
Speaker 3: just could have ended. It looked like for a minute
Speaker 3: it was gonna like we were gonna be in a fight.
Speaker 3: That was like, I'm you know what I'm thinking, I'm
Speaker 3: about to get in a fight at a football game.
Speaker 2: Is this really happening?
Speaker 1: Were you really getting triggered like that?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Oh we were ready. Oh I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: If we're gonna go, you know, Darius is ready.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna hit me first, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 2: that much. If I'm ready to go, if we're gonna go, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd rather not, especially a fifty five.
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 2: I mean they I mean when that show ended, I
Speaker 2: was so upset because they were so funny, and they
Speaker 2: do like this was hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, Hey, that dude got my guitar. He's
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Speaker 2: They're really doing great stuff.
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Speaker 2: they came to Nashville and said, yeah, we go to
Speaker 2: Nashville and we land. We got off the plane in
Speaker 2: the first thing, somebody said to me, we love Darius.
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Speaker 3: Oh something that's too that I wanted to ask you
Speaker 3: about because you've had your you've had your careers. I
Speaker 3: know you're you're like older in the game now, so
Speaker 3: you could probably give game seeing all this Taylor Swift
Speaker 3: stuff unfold, What are your thoughts on that, like her
Speaker 3: having the remake albums? Like, I know, it seems like
Speaker 3: anytime we've had a country artis so on, Like we've
Speaker 3: had a couple of rappers on, We've had a couple
Speaker 3: of country artis on, it seems like they're very different
Speaker 3: industries when it comes to like the labels and owning
Speaker 3: rights and owning music. We've had Jelly Roll on, who's
Speaker 3: like an independent guy. But what do you what do
Speaker 3: you make of all that to where she's remaking her
Speaker 3: albums because of who's the guy? What was the guy's name, Alex,
Speaker 3: I know you're well versed on this. Scooter Ron Scooter
Speaker 3: Brown wouldn't sell her the music or he sold them
Speaker 3: to a different label without her consent?
Speaker 1: And does that stuff happen a lot within the country world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the deal when you sign your first deal,
Speaker 2: it's always a bad deal. Really, A lot of people
Speaker 2: get screwed by that. But I love what she's doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, and the great thing about Taylor when she
Speaker 2: does stuff like that, she just it. It works. It's perfect,
Speaker 2: you know, because everybody's going to go out and buy
Speaker 2: the record, even though it's basically the same record, but
Speaker 2: they're going to go buy it because she's a freaking
Speaker 2: superstar and I love what she's doing. We record everyone
Speaker 2: and put them out and you know, then for all
Speaker 2: the stuff that's going on after that, you know, she
Speaker 2: owns the Master's perfect.
Speaker 3: Have you been like going from Hoodie and the Blowfish
Speaker 3: to you being solo? Were there certain things you looked
Speaker 3: at getting into the getting into the country world or.
Speaker 1: Getting in working with new labels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fine print of stuff being like, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna now that I'm a little bit more established,
Speaker 3: I know I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: Get out with this.
Speaker 2: Every deal, even my first country deal, Every deal is
Speaker 2: is I know what I want to own, I know
Speaker 2: what I'm I'm I'm willing to part with and I know,
Speaker 2: but so if it's not right, we're just not gonna
Speaker 2: do it, because you know, you want to own your
Speaker 2: you want to own your music. You want to you
Speaker 2: want to make money off your music, not just the
Speaker 2: label making all the money off the music. So it's
Speaker 2: it's really important, especially in the digital age because so
Speaker 2: hard to make money on records right now. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know Spotify spinning you and they're paying us points zero
Speaker 2: zero zero zero zero one cent every time somebody plays
Speaker 2: one of our songs. Really, yeah, I mean that's that's nothing,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, you gotta you gotta get a
Speaker 2: billion spins to make one hundred thousand dollars or something.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy goodness.
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting too because, uh, the scooter
Speaker 3: guy wanted the Scooter braun. He wanted her to sign
Speaker 3: like an NDA, saying he couldn't say she couldn't say
Speaker 3: another bad word about him and he would sell.
Speaker 1: Her the music. Is that right, Alex.
Speaker 3: But he wanted her to sign an NDA to where
Speaker 3: he couldn't he couldn't say anything negative. Like, I think
Speaker 3: it's interesting like being in those worlds, like you just
Speaker 3: have no clue that that's the stuff that goes on,
Speaker 3: like when you're working with big media or big labels
Speaker 3: or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a lot of stuff behind the scenes
Speaker 2: that that that's sleazy, and that's that's that's just different
Speaker 2: and and you you know, it's part of the business.
Speaker 2: We didn't none of us invented it. We'd just living it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, coming from a coming from a band with who
Speaker 3: they in the Blowfish and going to solo in the
Speaker 3: country industry, especially in an industry where they're huge on
Speaker 3: your your likeness, the way you present yourself, the way
Speaker 3: you carry yourself. Did you ever have to get over
Speaker 3: any hurdles getting into the country world. I as far
Speaker 3: as like, hey, don't say this, or you got to
Speaker 3: be like that, because in country if you say one
Speaker 3: wrong thing, like there could be so much control over
Speaker 3: you to where they can take you off a lot
Speaker 3: of things.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's amazing. Country music is amazing. How how how
Speaker 2: how you can get canceled like the Dixie Chicks thing,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean they were the biggest thing in
Speaker 2: the business and then one day and they weren't on
Speaker 2: the radio at all, you know, And that that was
Speaker 2: always crazy to me. So no one's ever said to
Speaker 2: me don't say this or don't do that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've always been a guy who keeps most stuff close
Speaker 2: to my best and I'm not you know, I'll talk
Speaker 2: and have fun and laugh and everything, but I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna right, just get serious. I'm not gonna sit out
Speaker 2: here and talk politics with you guys.
Speaker 1: That sports agency.
Speaker 2: So I just no one had to tell me because
Speaker 2: it's who it's really who I am. So I just
Speaker 2: I just go. I do what I do and be
Speaker 2: who I am, and if you don't like it, don't
Speaker 2: lest them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: I've always been fascinated with that stuff because anytime we
Speaker 3: have an artist come on, some will give us like
Speaker 3: your Jelly Jelly roll. I don't know if you know
Speaker 3: who Jelly role is, but he'll tell us like a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff because he's like an independent guy. And
Speaker 3: you can kind of tell some people who might come
Speaker 3: on where they're younger that they might not just be
Speaker 3: able to say a whole lot because of things that
Speaker 3: they have to sign or things that they've given given away,
Speaker 3: Like I can't, Hey, I can't speak on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know where I was going with that.
Speaker 2: Wheel ride, Like, dude, it's so funny. I heard that
Speaker 2: song for a decade and I never thought about cutting it,
Speaker 2: and I was, uh, because the old Crow version is
Speaker 2: so bluegrass. It's such a bluegrass song. I never even
Speaker 2: thought of it as a country song. And so I've
Speaker 2: met my daughter's high school talent show and I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm making my record. I fly from Nashville to the
Speaker 2: to the talent show. I'm flying back to gild the
Speaker 2: studio the next day, and and the faculty bands playing.
Speaker 2: It's like three teachers, two janitors. They were playing music
Speaker 2: in between them, and so they played wagon Wheel and
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that. They play wagon and I stopped playing.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, I never heard like that.
Speaker 2: They get to the first chorus and I go, I
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna cut that. And so I text my
Speaker 2: my my producer, and I'm very coachable, very coachable. I
Speaker 2: text my producer and I gay, man, remember that wagon
Speaker 2: Wheel song. And he texted me like, yeah, man, I
Speaker 2: don't know if we should mess with that. He's like,
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people have cut it. I
Speaker 2: don't know if we should mess with it. And I
Speaker 2: texted him back, Hey man, I'm not asking you, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you we're cutting this Wagonwool song. Tomorrow when I
Speaker 2: get back, and he was like, okay, we can cut it.
Speaker 2: And I remember cutting it and I thought it was cool.
Speaker 2: But then when Lyddy and a Bellum got on it,
Speaker 2: I really thought this song might get hit. And so
Speaker 2: we put out the first single and it goes number
Speaker 2: one and there we're then a meeting about the second
Speaker 2: single and one of the guys who I love to death,
Speaker 2: somebody said, well, what about wagon Wheel? And he said,
Speaker 2: we are not putting wagon Wheel out. He's like, yo,
Speaker 2: that's just so cliche, and so we he loses and
Speaker 2: we put it out and wagon Wheel is the fifth
Speaker 2: best selling song in the history of country music.
Speaker 3: That's the that's your song. That's went like a time platinum, right,
Speaker 3: So I think it just went ten.
Speaker 2: But the thing about it is, you know I didn't
Speaker 2: write it. It was one of those songs that you
Speaker 2: always say that people always say, beware what you cut
Speaker 2: because you might have to play it for the rest
Speaker 2: of your life. I have to play that song for
Speaker 2: the rest. Yes, they're playing one song in the show
Speaker 2: and have to be.
Speaker 3: It is like that.
Speaker 4: That's the the other day I was a kid Rocks
Speaker 4: Friday night and I walk in on like two am.
Speaker 4: They're closing down or whatever. This band's playing Free Bird,
Speaker 4: and I'm like they have to pay these guys so
Speaker 4: much money to play.
Speaker 3: Free Bird, right, absolutely, yeah, man, Yeah, that is the
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Speaker 2: Look. Oh oh absolutely, that was a funny thing. Somebody,
Speaker 2: one of my buddies, we were hanging out there then
Speaker 2: he said it to me. And you know, when you're
Speaker 2: in the middle of your you don't really think about
Speaker 2: your career. You just think about what you're doing. And
Speaker 2: my buddy we were drinking and he's like, you know,
Speaker 2: I was looking something up and he said, you realize
Speaker 2: that your voice is on the number five best selling
Speaker 2: country song and the number eighth best selling record of
Speaker 2: all time And I never even thought about it that. Well, wow,
Speaker 2: you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel?
Speaker 2: Oh? Wow, wow, that's crazy. It's crazy to think about that.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean all the humble beginnings and you're like of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, like of all time? Bro? Yeah, crazy man.
Speaker 1: That's incrazy, dude, the way around the banger.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Could you imagine like going like fifty five years old
Speaker 3: and you have you have something that is established as
Speaker 3: one of the greatest of all time. It'll live on
Speaker 3: for you know. However, long.
Speaker 1: Thoughts on Jimmy Allen winning New Artists of the Year.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. He deserves it. I
Speaker 2: think he's one of the best guys going. And I
Speaker 2: was really Jimmy's real good friend. I was really happy
Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, I won Best Hardist at forty one
Speaker 2: Let's go, So it was really great to see. I mean,
Speaker 2: I was so proud. I'm happy for him, and he
Speaker 2: deserved it. And he's going to be a superstar. Jimmy's
Speaker 2: going to be a superstar. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Everyone's so always so fascinated.
Speaker 3: I know when I was listening to interviews with you,
Speaker 3: everybody's always so fascinated to talk to you about your
Speaker 3: friendship with Tiger Woods because you got to meet him.
Speaker 2: At what was it, eighteen years eighteen when we started
Speaker 2: hanging out.
Speaker 1: How old were you?
Speaker 2: I was twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Dang, and you're getting to know, like you know, the
Speaker 3: goat golfer.
Speaker 2: Tiger and are pretty close, you know. I got to
Speaker 2: I sing at his wedding, singing his dad's funeral. He's
Speaker 2: my brother, and uh, getting him to start to know
Speaker 2: him at eighteen before everything happened and then to watch
Speaker 2: everything that the explosion, and to watch every the implosion,
Speaker 2: and to be a part of all that, and it's
Speaker 2: down to be to know where he is right now
Speaker 2: in his life. He's just an amazing human being. And
Speaker 2: he's a great, great guy who I love daily. And
Speaker 2: I get him and he makes me laugh and and he's, uh,
Speaker 2: this is this is the kind of stuff Tiger does
Speaker 2: to you. Okay, we're playing golf, and we're playing for
Speaker 2: some pretty good money, and of course he just beats
Speaker 2: me down. And you know, I mean, he's talking trash
Speaker 2: from the first wing to on, talking to the way
Speaker 2: the point the one time I stopped and I said, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm number seven hundred eighty seven thousand in the world
Speaker 2: and you're number one, and you're sitting here talking shit.
Speaker 2: And we go and we finish, and I pay him,
Speaker 2: and I get I'll start driving back to my hotel,
Speaker 2: and I pay him, and I get a phone call.
Speaker 2: And his phone call is him just itemizing what he's
Speaker 2: going to spend my money.
Speaker 1: How many times do you guys play golf?
Speaker 2: A lot?
Speaker 3: We play a lot of you guys bet on it
Speaker 3: every time every time I'm not Yeah, I'm out there
Speaker 3: to what's the most not it doesn't have to be
Speaker 3: to him, but what's the most money you've won and
Speaker 3: lost on the golf course.
Speaker 2: The most money I have won on the golf course.
Speaker 2: I think I won twelve grand ones playing a game
Speaker 2: that I shouldn't have been playing. And the most I've lost,
Speaker 2: I think I lost six ones. Okay, yeah, was it
Speaker 2: from Tiger? No, Tiger, we know he's taking a lot,
Speaker 2: but he hadn't. He didn't take six. I got, I got,
Speaker 2: I got, I got a.
Speaker 1: Oh, because you imagine Tiger just taking six grand from him?
Speaker 1: Like I beat you man?
Speaker 2: For Yeah, have you ever beat him? No, I've never
Speaker 2: beat him. This is this is Tiger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but he's out there competing every time.
Speaker 2: This is this is how great he is. Okay, he's
Speaker 2: beat me. We're playing one day and he's beat me.
Speaker 2: We're on eighteen and I tell him, all right, man,
Speaker 2: I will get one of the Yeah, I'll say, if
Speaker 2: if you win this, I'll give you three times. But
Speaker 2: if I would, you gotta pay me half, all right,
Speaker 2: And so we go. We hit our drive. I hit
Speaker 2: my ball of about eight feet because of course I
Speaker 2: was hitting before him because he was sixty yards in
Speaker 2: front of me and ball about eight feet and he
Speaker 2: hits it and he short sized himself into the trap
Speaker 2: and he short sided. I mean, the pin's right there.
Speaker 2: He's in the trap in the front of the green
Speaker 2: and he goes up there and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm like, make this punt. I'm getting this is I'm
Speaker 2: about to talk. She wanted to talk some ship and
Speaker 2: he got up on that saying shot, looked down there,
Speaker 2: hit it. It took one hop and winning and he
Speaker 2: looked at me and said, I told you're never gonna
Speaker 2: fucking beat me.
Speaker 1: That is fucking crazy, bro. He just looks many.
Speaker 2: I was, and yes, and I missed the putt.
Speaker 4: Oh that's funny, ship man.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's a great guy. Man.
Speaker 1: You guys, uh, you guys have anything for Darius.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you sang it Frank Sinatra birthday party? Is that true?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I'm a huge Sinatra guy. And uh. And
Speaker 2: so we're we're you know, we're huge at the time.
Speaker 2: And I meet George Slater, who's who was a who
Speaker 2: was Frank's producer, and George and I met and done something.
Speaker 2: So we get a phone call we're in the studio,
Speaker 2: get this phone call that they want us to play
Speaker 2: Sinatra's eighties birthday. Said okay, So I said, I want
Speaker 2: to do Lady as a Tramp. I said okay. And
Speaker 2: so they sent us this arrangement. Whoever arranged it. I
Speaker 2: got a handed to him. It sounded the arrangement he
Speaker 2: gave us sounded exactly like only want to be with you,
Speaker 2: But it was Lady as a Tramp and it was
Speaker 2: great and everything. But I told him. I called George, George,
Speaker 2: we don't want to do that. He's like, what are
Speaker 2: you gona do? I was like, I want to do
Speaker 2: the Quincy Jones live at this saying sixty four arrangement Lady.
Speaker 2: He said, yeah, let's do that. And so we go
Speaker 2: and we're going and it's Frank's eighty and it's a
Speaker 2: it's it's a who's who from Dylan to Rickles, it's
Speaker 2: a Springsteen, it's a who's who music at this thing.
Speaker 2: And so they start the show and Frank is not
Speaker 2: really paying much attention Ady, and people are singing, and
Speaker 2: you know, he's looking on barbers. So he's going on.
Speaker 2: So we're like, this is going to be a disaster
Speaker 2: for us. And so we go out and we got
Speaker 2: on zoot suits man, and we had Ladies of Tramp
Speaker 2: with that big band, and I mean we just went
Speaker 2: straight full Sinatra and we finished and Missus Sinatra stood
Speaker 2: up and made me come over and shake his head
Speaker 2: and said, son, that was awesome. And I'll never forget that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that. That was awesome.
Speaker 1: That is cool.
Speaker 3: Man going over Frank Sinatra and you crushed it.
Speaker 1: It's about out of your chest, Leney.
Speaker 2: You know that was. That was a moment.
Speaker 1: It might be here a while. That's man.
Speaker 2: Like the stories he's been telling. I mean, it's been
Speaker 2: pretty cool. The stuff I've gotten to do. The Sinatra
Speaker 2: moment was was crazy. You know, the Jimmy V where
Speaker 2: I got the Ric Flair road when Rick Flair was there,
Speaker 2: you know, that was. Those are moments like that, the
Speaker 2: little stuff like that, you know, like mister Sinatra telling
Speaker 2: me to make me come shake his head.
Speaker 6: That was.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's fucking Frank Sinatra, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and and that stuff like that.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't ever take that away. That's always
Speaker 2: and I'll always be.
Speaker 1: With me what you're a big Rick Flair fan. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling when you watch this? Thirty for thirty.
Speaker 2: I've known Rick a long since the eighties, and so
Speaker 2: because it really opens it up a lot of a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff that Rick is a complicated man, complicated man,
Speaker 2: and he's a he's a great dude. But uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get too much about Ric Flair, but
Speaker 2: one thing I'll say about Rick. I always say to people,
Speaker 2: if you've ever seen Ric Flair naked, you know why
Speaker 2: Ric Flair loves Ric flairn Let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't do very well.
Speaker 2: I'd hit it. H Who.
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: Very good?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on man like you.
Speaker 3: It's uh, your humble beginnings, Like I'm thinking of myself
Speaker 3: belting in the car, your music, and to have you
Speaker 3: to have a podcast bust with the boys, and to
Speaker 3: have somebody like you come on like it's it's a
Speaker 3: pretty cool moment right now. I appreciate you sharing the
Speaker 3: stories and laughing and hell going toes on South Carolina, Nebraska.
Speaker 1: It's been fun.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Yeah, Glenny, you got anything, bro?
Speaker 4: But yeah, actually coming on, No, thanks a lot man,
Speaker 4: this this has been awesome.
Speaker 2: It really has