WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Hard Knocks & Mojo Moments

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge,

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here we are Players Lounge. It's a little delayed,

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<v Speaker 1>but but it's okay. We had our we had a

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<v Speaker 1>mojo moment, but we're all good. We got a mojo

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<v Speaker 1>moment here. We lost that mojo moment. That was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>our Mojoe moment for a week right there. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Players Lounge bought you by Hotels dot Com. New We Scruggs,

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<v Speaker 1>longtime Cowboys reporter, joined by two four Dallas Cowboys safeties,

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Church and Danny mc cray. And yes, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to hit up hard knocks as HBO's outstanding series made

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<v Speaker 1>its debut of the Cowboys Episode one last night on HBO.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mojo moment was the thing that I was glad

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<v Speaker 1>they got inside to understand show us what Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about with the Austin powers and everything that

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<v Speaker 1>went into it, because while I was at camp in Oxnard,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard it, you didn't kind of know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He explained it a little bit, but it was better

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<v Speaker 1>to see exactly how it all unfolded. So, gentlemen, right

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gate, I'm gonna start with you, Danny McCrae,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your thought to the way Mike McCarthy was

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<v Speaker 1>portrayed in Hard Knocks? Okay? I thought she's about to

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<v Speaker 1>ask about the Mojo moment because not sure if it

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<v Speaker 1>hit the way that he thought it was as I

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<v Speaker 1>watched it. But you know, listen, whatever whatever you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do to get your team hype and helped them

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<v Speaker 1>understand the situation that you're trying to put them in

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<v Speaker 1>to make them better, well, you know, whatever you gotta do,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta do it. I mean, this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>said was going to happen to coach McCarthy once he

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<v Speaker 1>got on this TV show. It was going to show

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<v Speaker 1>that he is not really doing much if really, the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing you could say that he did on that

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<v Speaker 1>show was come up with the Mojo moment. Other than that,

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<v Speaker 1>it showed that him and Dak might not be as

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<v Speaker 1>cool as they should be right now. They showed the

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<v Speaker 1>Special Teams Coach More having more of a personality with

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<v Speaker 1>his players. They showed Jerry and then the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>it was the dak in a Zeke show. So it

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, hopefully in the next couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>we see a little bit more of Big Mike. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that one, you know, it really didn't didn't show much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it kind of came off. The mojo moment

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<v Speaker 1>came off as it's just kind of gimmicky, just a

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<v Speaker 1>little gimmicky. Um. I mean we saw, you know, last

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<v Speaker 1>Hard Knocks when when Gruton was up there talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, knock if you hear him, or knock on

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<v Speaker 1>wood or something like that. Tallest players. So to me

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<v Speaker 1>that that mojo moment, it was it was kind of gimmicky,

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<v Speaker 1>but real quickly, let me ask you when they when

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<v Speaker 1>they go to this mojo moment, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this little situational thing. Is it like a stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>three plays, is it like a full series or they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing like a two minute drill or or a red

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<v Speaker 1>zone you know, red zone drill or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how does each mojo moment you know, break down

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<v Speaker 1>on the field or is it just a one off?

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<v Speaker 1>Like all right, it's it's awesome, powers time, it's mojo,

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<v Speaker 1>It's mojo. Get your mojo whatever. Ready, let's go on

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<v Speaker 1>this field for this one play, Like, like, how does

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<v Speaker 1>that break down as far as that mojo moment that

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<v Speaker 1>that sequence of events. Yeah, he'll tell you exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>situation and how much time it is and where the

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<v Speaker 1>ball is going to be. So you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>through that um One of them that I that they

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<v Speaker 1>showed last night was where the offense had to get

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<v Speaker 1>you have eighteen seconds left or whatnot, but you had

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<v Speaker 1>to get the ball in the end zone and Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>Gilbert couldn't get it done. Another mojo moment, de Nucci

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<v Speaker 1>ended up throwing one in the end zone and and

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<v Speaker 1>CD Lamb caught it in the offense one. So so

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<v Speaker 1>they were they've been trying to have competitive situations throughout

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<v Speaker 1>camp where the offensive defense are going back at it

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<v Speaker 1>and the defense is fair. Fair to me, the defense

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<v Speaker 1>when I was out there, got the better of the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive overall. But there were a couple of these times

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<v Speaker 1>in these mojo moments, in these final um seconds that

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<v Speaker 1>the offense ended up looking good. So that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what you saw last night that you know, Gilbert

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get it done. But it's tough and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>know from a defensive standpoint, it's tough when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's say I'm Michael Parsons gets there, or

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive lineman gets there, but all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback can spin out and still throw a ball

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<v Speaker 1>in the end zone and make a you know, make

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<v Speaker 1>a play. But yeah, he's trying to do something different.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to hate when when they used to do

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<v Speaker 1>that with Romo, that we'd be a two minute drill.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, deep ware get off the edge easily, easily

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<v Speaker 1>could have sacked the quarterback, but they didn't blow a whistle.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Romo gets a little pass off and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the offense celebrate. It's just to get their confidence up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, man, that place should have been dead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. That's the reason I hate two minute

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<v Speaker 1>drill is when you're doing camp and it gets the

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<v Speaker 1>offense because it's always catered into we got to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>it's over. It should be over, coaches, No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we still got time. We got time for another sequence,

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<v Speaker 1>we got time for It's always cater to let the

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<v Speaker 1>offense win. But overall, when when it came to that

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<v Speaker 1>hard knocks, NUIs Danny to y'all, who who in that

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<v Speaker 1>first episode besides McCarthy, who stuck out the most as

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<v Speaker 1>a player when you were looking at I know it

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<v Speaker 1>was the Dock and the Zeke Show, But has anybody

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else kind of stuck out to you when you

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<v Speaker 1>were watching that Hard Knocks, I say, you know, most

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<v Speaker 1>of the other part of the show focused on Michael Parsons. Hum.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a high energy guy. You can tell he really

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<v Speaker 1>loves the game of football. He's kind of all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place, kind of like most rookies are right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I can kind of understand the conversation that we

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<v Speaker 1>had a few shows ago where they were saying, we

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<v Speaker 1>just we're gonna tone it down a little bit. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like get you into one position and let you

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<v Speaker 1>focus on playing football and playing fast so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about should I should I hammer or

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<v Speaker 1>should I spill? Should I force them inside? Should I

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<v Speaker 1>force him outside? Just get out there and just play

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<v Speaker 1>fast like you did. That made you, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick, which is interesting. I will say this

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<v Speaker 1>so long because this mojole moment, I can't let it die. Okay, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think many coaches you know, whatever, they may

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<v Speaker 1>do it a different way, but nobody's reinventing the will,

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<v Speaker 1>right the mojo moment Church, But we know is got

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<v Speaker 1>to have a situation, all right. It's the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>we used to do when JG was here, And but

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<v Speaker 1>I think his was more sporadic because you would have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy to have a situation, you know, four or

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<v Speaker 1>five times a practice. Hey man, look it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>d Ware to go up against Tyrn Smith. And you

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<v Speaker 1>would see that like day in the day out, just randomly, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, if we're gonna stop everything, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>see one on one, got to have it who his

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<v Speaker 1>dad's gonna go against as a cornerback, Just to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of build up that this is a competition. Everything is

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<v Speaker 1>a competition, and we're here to compete. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>reinventing the will. So you know the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>came up with something to make it seem a little different,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more power to him. It's just us as players,

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<v Speaker 1>just how we're looking at it, you know. But if

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<v Speaker 1>it works for him and his team, then that's that's great. Okay, Danny,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just get straight to it. Thumbs upper, thumb down

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<v Speaker 1>on the mojo moment, the name thumbs down. I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go thumbs down on the name, but I'm not in

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<v Speaker 1>that locker room. They had a whole conversation about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I do love Austin Powers. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it fits. The mojo moment to me is like

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<v Speaker 1>if you got mojo, that means you got some swag.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't really translate into a swag moment. It's true,

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<v Speaker 1>got to have it, Like what are we gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a situational moment, But you know, if it sticks,

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<v Speaker 1>it sticks. Well, well, let me ask both of y'all

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<v Speaker 1>this question real quick from from what y'all saw from McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, through the first episode of that Hard Knocks,

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<v Speaker 1>do y'all think this guy can be a good motivator

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<v Speaker 1>of men? I mean, I know, you know, Garrett kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got that. That label is he can't motivate his

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<v Speaker 1>guys to go out there and win. And he has

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<v Speaker 1>a stack team, but you know, nobody wants to play

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Do you see McCarthy being that great motivator,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy that can get the most out of each

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<v Speaker 1>and every player? Nui, Danny, anybody you know knew he

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna answer that question. I'll start, I will, I

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<v Speaker 1>will start right here. I am not sold on Mike McCarthy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, I gotta see it. I'm just not sold. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy is able to carry in something that most

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<v Speaker 1>coach in the National Football League cannot carry into a

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, is a Super Bowl ring on his finger.

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<v Speaker 1>But my question with Mike McCarthy has been seriously this.

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay identified him as the problem with their organization.

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<v Speaker 1>They fired him. They've gone twenty six and six without him,

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<v Speaker 1>and played an NFSC championship game twice, and Aaron Robers

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<v Speaker 1>won another MVP. So how much of it was Mike

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<v Speaker 1>and how much of it is you got number twelve now?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he brought up a really good point on

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<v Speaker 1>hard Knocks. He says it takes seventy seven guys to

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<v Speaker 1>win a Super Bowl, at least it did for him

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<v Speaker 1>with a Green Bay. And I remember even during that

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl game, they were losing dudes. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>lost Woodson during that game of Donald Driver. So Mike McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>he had found a way to utilize several people. He

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<v Speaker 1>had Ryan Grant, who was running really good that year.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember him in some fantasy leagues, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a really good job. They lost him. They went

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<v Speaker 1>through a bunch of running backs. So Mike McCarthy has

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<v Speaker 1>been able to build a championship team. But it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where, hey, look, somebody can have a

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<v Speaker 1>good record, but can you can you continue to make

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<v Speaker 1>good records? You know, you have to hit home, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a whole lot of thing to be a

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<v Speaker 1>hit hit artist, you know. You know, can you be

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<v Speaker 1>Stevie Wonder who's been good year after year after year,

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<v Speaker 1>decade after decade. Are you like Belichick who's been good

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<v Speaker 1>year after year, Tom Landry same thing? Or it's Mike McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who just had one great run in him,

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<v Speaker 1>such as Rick Carlisle had with the Dallas Mavericks. That's

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<v Speaker 1>been my question with Mike McCarthy right now. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>sit up here and tell you that I'm sold on

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy to be in the guy. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>asked Jerry Jones that very question when I interviewed him Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>the first Sunday at training camp. Do you have the

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<v Speaker 1>right guy? Because I said the same thing, hackers when

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six and six without this dude, So what am

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<v Speaker 1>I supposed to say? And Jerry says he's sold sold,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said he's not gonna count last year. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's whole thing. He's not counting last year. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboy fans are accounting last year. Six and ten? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hany one that six and ten bull Jade. And you

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<v Speaker 1>got to see, you know, because if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>it his career with the Packers, I mean, he had

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<v Speaker 1>two Hall of Fame quarterbacks throughout his whole tenure with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the Packers, I mean he had Brett Favre

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<v Speaker 1>and then he had Aaron Rodgers and he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to amass one Super Bowl out of that. But you

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<v Speaker 1>got a thing. I mean, they say, he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this great play caller, his offensive mind, he's a genius

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and we've yet to see that as well

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<v Speaker 1>because he has Kellen Moore, you know, calling all the

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<v Speaker 1>shots out there. So I want to see this season

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got to see it this season. Is what

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<v Speaker 1>type of coaches McCarthy is He Is he a coach

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<v Speaker 1>that can can motivate his teammate or can motivate his players,

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<v Speaker 1>even though the lesser players to play, you know, beyond there,

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<v Speaker 1>beyond their skill set. Can he be that type of

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<v Speaker 1>coach or is he the type of coach that you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's along for the ride. I mean he has a

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<v Speaker 1>loaded team right now with the Dallas Cowboys and he

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<v Speaker 1>has to simply manage them in the right direction. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he can be that that motivator, that manager

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<v Speaker 1>of this team to get them to play to the

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<v Speaker 1>peak of their abilities. I don't think we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to see that from Mike McCarthy. Um. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that issue on offense because of the players

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<v Speaker 1>that you have, and we know the type of leader

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<v Speaker 1>that Dak is and we know that everybody's gonna follow him.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna follow Zeke. You kind of got a receiving

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<v Speaker 1>corps that they know what to do right. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a Marii Cooper leading leading that bunch. You don't see

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<v Speaker 1>them getting any issues and they're productive. And then on

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<v Speaker 1>special teams, we know that that that fossil is a motivator.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to motivate his guys to get out there

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<v Speaker 1>and play. He's gonna come up with creative things to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that they feel like they're a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the game and making those plays. And I'm gonna call

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<v Speaker 1>this man just like uh like like you called himself

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<v Speaker 1>my man DQ, my man DQ. Dan Quinn seems like

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<v Speaker 1>he has the guys fired up and ready to get

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<v Speaker 1>in their tackle, make their be on their assignments, make

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<v Speaker 1>plays on the ball. As NEWI said, if you've been

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<v Speaker 1>watching training camp, the defensive being has been getting the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the offense. And so I don't think when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it, you have to see McCarthy being

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<v Speaker 1>the motivator of men, because these guys in their position

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<v Speaker 1>and coaches, their coordinators are going to have them ready

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<v Speaker 1>to play when it comes game time anyway, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you're gonna see it, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl Trophy. It's heavier than just pointing that

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<v Speaker 1>to your point. I love what you said about Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn because you see it in these practices. You see

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<v Speaker 1>it while they were out there and Ox started, and

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<v Speaker 1>even in the preseason game that these guys, these players,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys on the defensive side of the ball, they

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<v Speaker 1>seem to believe in Quinn. They seem to believe in

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<v Speaker 1>what he has going for him. You see these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fired up. There's not a lot of coverage busts

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<v Speaker 1>out there now. I don't know if you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>implementing his whole defense yet or they're just dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the super basics right now, but you haven't seen any

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<v Speaker 1>coverage busts out there. These guys are flying around to

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. And one difference I've seen. I know it's early,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we only got a short sample size, but

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<v Speaker 1>from that Steelers game, you saw those guys swarm into

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. There wasn't just you know, one guy trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make all the players or one guy tackling in

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<v Speaker 1>an open field. There was one, two, three, four different

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<v Speaker 1>hats to the ball at a time. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's what you gotta have on a defense, is

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<v Speaker 1>that swarming mentality. I think last year we had it

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<v Speaker 1>was just too many one on ones. There was just

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<v Speaker 1>too many open fields just one on ones. And that

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<v Speaker 1>to me, as we both know that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>hardest things to do in football is to tackle somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the open field. So I'll do to your point

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<v Speaker 1>saying that Dan McQuinn eat or dan quinn mc quinn

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<v Speaker 1>has definitely got the belief of these young boys, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're rolling. All right. We gotta take we gotta take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. There's one player that I almost feel has

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<v Speaker 1>been forgotten about, and we should not forget about this

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<v Speaker 1>player because this player has played a key role before

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<v Speaker 1>for the Dallas Cowboys. I'll tell you who it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Who this man to the Cowboys from the Raiders, And

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<v Speaker 1>I say this man saved Jason Garrett's job. Save Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett's job took the Cowboys to the playoffs, but people

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<v Speaker 1>have forgotten about that. But not me, baby, not me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm there with you, Coop, the man pulling about the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah about fourth and five? Okay, all right, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>And what was you about to say? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>about to say about my boy? I'm good. It's good

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<v Speaker 1>to know, Danny McCrae. Some trains run on time. I

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<v Speaker 1>bring up Cooper here comes to negativity trains. But that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. Coop understands what was it. Cooper understands what

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<v Speaker 1>it was going on, and that's why he said he's

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<v Speaker 1>about to have the best season of his career. He

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<v Speaker 1>is about to go ahead and get He about to

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<v Speaker 1>go out here and get his game on. And so

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen and eighty eight are going to have the potential,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, the potential to have some big seasons

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys. Look potential. I'm with you on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, definitely a CD. I think for

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<v Speaker 1>Shaw CD throughout this camp and you'll see the early

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<v Speaker 1>part of the season, I think CD will solidify himself

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<v Speaker 1>as being that number one option for Dak Prescott as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the passing game is concerned. But what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing though, is you know, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, CD Lamb and Amari Cooper. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do this, We're gonna do that. We're gonna destroy the game,

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the best duo. We're gonna be the best

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<v Speaker 1>duo in the National Football League. But I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was a trio. I thought this was the receiving crew

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna all go over a thousand yards. Nobody can

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<v Speaker 1>stop us. Won't be amazing. People seem to forgot about Gallup.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just people his own teammates seem to

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<v Speaker 1>have forgotten about can't. I don't. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, man, because because because this, this, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. This is what we know about about Gallup. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a certain certain type of ball. No, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just your just your thing a little bit. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>certain type of ball that h that Michael Gallup usually

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<v Speaker 1>makes a spectaclar play on, and that is the deep ball,

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<v Speaker 1>usually on the sideline, not up through scene. Ceedee Lamb

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<v Speaker 1>is usually doesn't run those routes, and Mark Cooper usually

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<v Speaker 1>isn't running those routes. When you need a deep ball,

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<v Speaker 1>got to have it, it's Michael Gallups. So you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's a one trick pony. No, No, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna be forgotten about it because we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be in situations where we need to have that deep

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<v Speaker 1>guy to have it passed, and Michael Gallop is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the guy to go make that part. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think do you think this will affect the room overall? Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if if ceedee, Lamb's getting first five games, ceede,

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<v Speaker 1>Lamb's got fifty targets, a Mark Cooper got sixty targets,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know he's sitting over there with Gallop

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<v Speaker 1>in a contract year. I might add in a contract

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<v Speaker 1>year with you know, fifteen targets here there. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that will affect the round. I think it will

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<v Speaker 1>affect the room, But I think that this is what

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<v Speaker 1>makes that a great leader, and I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>he will allow that to become an issue. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see Michael Gallup only getting you know, fifteen twenty

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<v Speaker 1>catches while the rest of these guys are making those

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<v Speaker 1>type of plays because we know defenses are going to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who they need to focus on, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallop will get more opportunities. He may not get

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that way. He's just gonna have to make

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<v Speaker 1>those plays to bring his name back into the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>What you think NEWI Hey, look, my weekend got Pat

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<v Speaker 1>Donney over the NBC five called Michael Gallop elite. He

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<v Speaker 1>said the cat was at three elite receivers. And my

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<v Speaker 1>first thought is, look, I like Michael a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a fun guy to talk to, But there's

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<v Speaker 1>no way in the world we can call Michael Gallup elite.

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<v Speaker 1>Elite means that you are the best of the best,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's a guy who's a number three target on

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<v Speaker 1>his own team. And if we start talking about touches

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<v Speaker 1>with Ezekiel Elliot, he's even further down the list because

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<v Speaker 1>they were running a whole lot of screen game here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I expect to see Ezekiel Elliott heavily involved in

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<v Speaker 1>the passing game. We've seen Blake Jarwin out there making

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<v Speaker 1>some nice catches, and Dalton Schultz has been a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that these backup quarterbacks have really relied upon him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't know how much juice and how many

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<v Speaker 1>balls are gonna be out there for Michael Gallant when

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<v Speaker 1>you need a play you just thought the cee lamb

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<v Speaker 1>and he's catching him. Amari Cooper is still a guy

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott trusts, and I think that matters, And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we talk about that enough. Nineteen is a

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<v Speaker 1>dude that he's been trusting with. So you take nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight, two guys he can trust, you play twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one and the way you need to do and get

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<v Speaker 1>him some touches here. I don't see how Gallup is

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<v Speaker 1>really going to be able to get these balls that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to. When people talk about this guy's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sign some deal next year for a thirteen or fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars and he's gonna be a number one somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>How are you going to be a number one somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>when you can't even get to be really be at

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<v Speaker 1>two If both guys are healthy in this offense and

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably the fourth or fifth option depending on who

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<v Speaker 1>you play and how this game plan is going. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and to me, it's gonna come down to whether Gallup

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<v Speaker 1>is the ultimate you know, team guy, whether he's you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's in a contract year, he has an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to make that Dennis Shrewder before he got that up,

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<v Speaker 1>he got an opportunity to make those those big bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I had to throw that shooter in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do it. It was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest gaffs I think I've ever seen when it came

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to negotiating and making money. You pass up eighty four,

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you're left with five. But anyways, Gallup, I think I

0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.160
<v Speaker 1>think if he listens out to to to the media

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 1>people like if he listens to guys like us out here,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna start getting to him and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it might affect the room. But you know, hey,

0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:51.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll see where it goes. Money money changes minds a lot.

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna be fine. He's not a number

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<v Speaker 1>one receiver, definitely not. Not not at this point of

0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 1>his career. He's not. If he makes some improvements and

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and he he's able to get some more balls thrown

0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:03.680
<v Speaker 1>as way, he makes some more spectacular catches than maybe.

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think he just needs to settle into the

0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.280
<v Speaker 1>road that he's been playing. Ceedee Lamb was the first

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 1>round pick last year. He came on the scene. He

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:13.560
<v Speaker 1>got he got, he got a lot of a lot

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.399
<v Speaker 1>of looks. Mary Cooper is going to give a lot

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>of looks, and Gallup is going to get the spectacular plays,

0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.119
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to give him the opportunity to go

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.719
<v Speaker 1>down there and make those thirty and forty yard catches.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see, we shall see. I'll give you an example.

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you an example of a great trio. And

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys may remember it. A guy named Jake Reid

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.680
<v Speaker 1>who's a North Texas resident. Jake Reid played on some

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:43.040
<v Speaker 1>great Vikings teams with Randy Moss and Chris Carter. Jake

0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>was a really good football player, but he just wasn't

0:22:45.840 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 1>those two guys. And obviously he's not those two guys,

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>because those two guys are Hall of famers. I'm not

0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 1>calling Cooper, not calling Lamb hall of famers, but I

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>believe that you're talking about guys who are a step

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<v Speaker 1>above Michael Gallant. And I think Michael Gallant maybe an

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<v Speaker 1>a different off in someplace. Maybe he can become a one,

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>but I just don't see him getting a thousand yards

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>or having to be this big option like they're talking

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>about here. Twenty one looks good fellas Okay, he really

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>does look good. And the screen game I saw. If

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.119
<v Speaker 1>this offensive line is healthy and there, and if they

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>can get this screen game out there, and then some

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.159
<v Speaker 1>of the routes they have him running, twenty one is

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.399
<v Speaker 1>gonna be something to deal with. Okay, that's where I

0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 1>just don't see gout getting getting his love. They put

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.160
<v Speaker 1>him on him cover to me, you guys, so that's nice.

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>You know they're trying. They're trying to make them feel good,

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 1>but there's just too many mouths to feed. If this

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>offense is doing everything that we believe it can be

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and live up to, I mean, don't tell you right now.

0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Blake Jarwin looks nice. He looks nice, and for some

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>reason there's no animosity or in between he and Dalta

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:50.679
<v Speaker 1>Schultz at all their buddies. They're trying to push each

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.880
<v Speaker 1>other here, and Dalta's Schultz is not trying to sit

0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>up here. Just give this thing away to Blake Jarwin.

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>He's look good as too. So you're killing Moore man.

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You've got options. We ain't even talk about twenty Pollard here, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>not even talked about Stop it, Neui, stop it. He

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.880
<v Speaker 1>does not need too many options Okay, we already talked

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>about what Listen, we talked about this before. Dak had

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to show the string, go into these first games, run

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the ball, and then you know, let these other options

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>feed off whatever Zeke does. He don't need too many things,

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>too many people to focus on. Hey man, let's get

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 1>jar one. Let's make sure we take care of shows

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>because he did do something for us last year. Oh yeah,

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 1>we gotta fit Tony Pollitt and then somewhere and also

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 1>don't let Michael Galli get too upsets, so make sure

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>let's not let's not do that. Okay, you said twenty

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>one looks great. Focus the offensive around twenty one each

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Dak back into it, and Coop and UH and and

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>CD will get their touches. And then you know, Michael

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 1>gallup when we need that that we got that third

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and twenty toust the ball, tom My man, Michael galler Man,

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>let him go out there for the play. Look, I

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>think we can all agree that it's a good problem

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys that have all these you know, options,

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and that you know, it's gonna be hard for defenses

0:24:58.400 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 1>to match up with them because they have so many

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:02.400
<v Speaker 1>miss match nightmares out there. Tight end wherever she running back,

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you call it, they got the mismatch forward. But I

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 1>want to pivot a little bit, just a little bit

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>right here, because knew what you were there at practice,

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>You were there when the Rams came to town. How

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 1>did the big hog Molly's up front? How did those

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 1>giants in the trenches? How did they look out there

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>against a vaunted Rams rush? I mean, you got Aaron Donald,

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you got Lennon Floyd out there. If you got some

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>guys that can get after the pass rushing or can

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>get after the quarterback. So to me, how did those

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>big boys look once the Rams got Oh? I did

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>see that it was a great takedown on Aaron Donald. Yeah,

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 1>he had good for him. But if you continue to

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.880
<v Speaker 1>look at it, Aaron Donald jumped on him real quick afterwards.

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 1>And if his boys ain't hop in, I don't know.

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>But you know, how did they look out there to do? Yeah?

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>They look okay? So so Church, you're telling on yourself

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>because clearly you didn't watch any of my reporting. I

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:56.119
<v Speaker 1>want you to explain to the to the audience. I was,

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was at the Pro Football Hall of

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Fame and Canton, Ohio sad today and Sunday for for

0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>for for the speeches. So I didn't see what I

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 1>can't see. So here's what I did say though, And

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.640
<v Speaker 1>this was absolutely the craziest thing and why Jerry Jones

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>is truly the man. So at the Pro Football Hall

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of Fame Stadium, they had a whole locker room they

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 1>converted into the Cowboys Club full of food, all you

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>can drink, TVs solfas. So I'm sitting next to Clarence

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Hill and Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones somehow had the feed

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>of the scrimmage piped into the locker room where we're

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>watching this at this Cowboys Club waiting on Cliff Harris

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>and Jimmy Johnson and get their speeches. And so we're

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>just asking Jerry about stuff we're seeing and it isn't

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, first off, I'm like, how in the world

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>did Jerry get this thing pumped in here? But he did.

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>So we watched it from there, and Jerry candidate made

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.160
<v Speaker 1>a play out there. He was big on him, saw

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the fight. Um, Jerry didn't comment

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:04.959
<v Speaker 1>on that at all. And and so I didn't get

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>to see the scrimmage to ask you answer your question.

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>But Jerry. Jerry was a fan of what he saw

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 1>a little bit that he saw there by the way

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that Matthew Stafford could sling it, My gosh, that kid's

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>got an arm. Yeah, and we had back Yeah after

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 1>watching the backup quarterbacks that I saw an ox star

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>when that went down to see Matthew Staffords, it was

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, oh, my gosh, like that, that's a

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 1>wicked throat. So I didn't. I did not get to

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>see how how they stacked up against the Rams. So

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't because I was hanging next to Jerry and

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>uh enjoying, uh, enjoying everything at the Cowboys Club before

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>we walked out there and uh watched some speeches. It

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>was good stuff. Man. Was that rollo with Jerry is

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>a good thing? Was that was that McDonald's on U

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.120
<v Speaker 1>hard nuts last night? Was he eating the McDonald's saying

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.320
<v Speaker 1>would you when he was in his office with a mcgriddle?

0:27:55.560 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh not No, that was something from the hotel hotel,

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's what I said. Somebody told me it was.

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, the way you did watch you know,

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>like the rest of like the rest of us, you

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>did watch the Hall of Fame game you did. You

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to go see the Hall of

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Fame game, So I gotta I gotta know what your

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>what's your early thoughts on one are first round draft

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>picked Parsons? And two what you think about those backup

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that uh we talked about here on the Players

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Lounge last week? So let me let me know your

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on those. One, Michael Parsons was drafted too low, Okay,

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe they are eleven football players better than

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons. In fact, he told me said I should

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>have gone top five. So that's my first take on

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons. I think if you're a Cowboy fan, you're

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be happy if this kid stays healthy. He

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>has the desire, the right frame of mind sets. Kind

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of talking to him in cd Land, these are two

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>guys who both really want to be very good in

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>their careers. And as far as the Hall of Fame

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>game goes with the quarterbacks, I'll just maintain what I

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>said before right now on the players round too, the

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>backup quarterback for this football team is not on this roster.

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, many y'all gonna do that, Dan, let

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>me hear what you think about exactly? We had three points. Okay,

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>my man, your man Double G had he had a

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>decent drive and the other than that it was nothing.

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>It was nothing. I don't I don't like what I saw.

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>And if they're you know, knocking on wood, this is

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>just whatever. If Dak has to miss any time, I

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>am not confident in what we have as the backup

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>right now to be able to hold it together until

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>he until he returns. Well before I go in on

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Double G here, what do you think about Parsons and

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 1>his ability out there for a couple of series, we

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>did see him at the Hall of Fan game. Man,

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy because it's gonna sound like it's a knock

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>on Jalen. But I was like, this is what I

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>thought when Jalen returned to his former self how he

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>was in college. I was like, this is this is

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>how Jalen's gonna look. Right. The dude looks fast, does

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>he looks agile. He looks like he can get around blocks.

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>He's running past guys who are trying to block him.

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>He's chasing down, giving effort on every play, and he's

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>just high energy. Dude. The dude looks if he figures

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>it out and he knows where he's supposed to be

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>when he's supposed to be there, and he's able to

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>play fast and free, Oh he's gonna be nice. Somebody's

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>spot is getting taken, and somebody's spot is getting taken

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>for sure, you count that out. Somebody's off the field

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Well, my thoughts on on on Parsons man like, Look,

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>if this guy can stay healthy through seventeen games, if

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>he can stay healthy, I think the sky's limit for

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>this kid. I mean you can even though we have

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>a small sample size so far of him. He flashed,

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>he popped off the tape. I mean you can you

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>can feel his speed on the game film, and he

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>sideline the sideline. He was just there, and so I think,

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, even though it's early, it's really early, you know,

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>small sample size. I do think this guy can be special,

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>and I do think that he can be a huge

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>reason to why you know, this cowboy's defense makes a

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>turnaround in twenty one. But back to my boy Double G.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>All Right, y'all was over here talking all types of

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff about Double G. Last last last time we were

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>on the players, and I was still were still talking,

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 1>still talking about and I was with y'all a little

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>bit because it was nervous. I heard the reports out

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>of practice, and I was a little bit nervous for him.

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, man, this guy is a gamer,

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>all right. Some guys show up the practice and they

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>practice well. Some guys come up to the game and

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 1>they just play well in the game. And I think

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>DOUBLEG is one of those gamers. I mean, we saw

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>what he was able to do against the Steelers, the

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>undefeated Steelers at the time. And look, I mean that's

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>all we got right now. Double G as the Steelers

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and in this preseason game, and y'all can't tell me

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 1>through this preseason game, nui, Danny, y'all can't tell me

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Double G didn't look like he had some pocket presents

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>back there. He was putting the ball where only his

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:43.959
<v Speaker 1>receivers could catch it, and he was letting them run

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>with it afterwards. It was the Hall of Fame game, yes,

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and he was playing with who he could play with.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>The guy was out well. I mean, if he's out

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>back on the quarterback, then he should have been looking great.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>If he looks like that behind that offensive line, just

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>imagine Zach Martin Tyren Smith like l Collins zeke in

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the backfield, that's what that's re receiver. That's what me

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and new He telling you, Bro, we don't want to

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>imagine that that tenfolds which but if it were to happen,

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Double can do a stay back there. He has a game.

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I remember when when Dak was having his contracts talk,

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<v Speaker 1>contract talks. Uh, my man Church was over here kind

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<v Speaker 1>of putting it out there that that Double G might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to step in and and and then he

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<v Speaker 1>went down to justin fields. But you knew Double G.

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<v Speaker 1>You have some real confidence and Double G just like

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<v Speaker 1>you had in the Nucci before you saw y'all saw

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.479
<v Speaker 1>the Duci out there that even here getting brought up

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>on the show right now, Double he is a game.

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you this guy's a game. I'm not saying

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>he's not a gamer. We just saying knew he. Like

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Newy our backup quarterback who we need

0:32:52.680 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to depend on if something goes wrong, it's not on

0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.959
<v Speaker 1>the roster and that includes Double GN. What you think, NW,

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>what you think? Yeah, the Nuci is getting cut so

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and let you know that right now he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>cut and maybe maybe they bring it back on the

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>practice squad at this point time. Unless Cooper Rush turns around,

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>he'll get cut too. And I think they'll keep two quarterbacks.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.479
<v Speaker 1>They'll keep Dak and they'll kick. They'll kick. Garrett Gilbert

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and Will McClay will be out there looking. But that's

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 1>just how I see, just based off one preseason game

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and and and what I've seen so far. So we'll see. Um. Looky,

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, man, I know you like I know you

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like Garret Gilbert. I like he's a nice guy, a

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>nice guy. It's a nice young man. But you know,

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, man, I'm sorry. I mean all like to

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>quote the great Bill Parcels. All I can go by

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>is what I see. I saw three points at the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. I was falling asleep in the fourth quarter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was falling asleep the press box in the fourth Quarterback. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>want to I want you guys to tell me what

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this on the Players Lounge the last

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<v Speaker 1>time and I want to come back to it. After

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<v Speaker 1>a practice, I see Dan Quinn and Mike McCarthy walking

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<v Speaker 1>with Micah Parsons. They walk all the way down the

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<v Speaker 1>football field. They stopped talked for a little bit. They

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>walk all the way back, then we see him playing

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 1>major minutes in the Pro Football Hall of Fame game

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and he was wearing the Green dot call and plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they ended up taking them out after they felt

0:37:25.560 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>like they saw enough of him because Mike McCarthy said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get guys some playing time and Kenton,

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, he wanted to make sure

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>they had some juice to get ready for that Rams

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 1>scrimmage on Saturday. So fellas based on that walk, based

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>on what you've seen so far, what kind of plans

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>do you think the Cowboys have from Micah Parsons at linebacker?

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:50.359
<v Speaker 1>They have the usual, the usual plans for their high

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 1>first round pick. I remember, I believe was it it

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>was Mo Clayborne who came in, and you know, they

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>had two solidified starters that were here already. Those starters

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>were the upset and they were making sure putting in

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>all the extra time that they could to make sure

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>that Mogat caught up to speed so he was ready

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to play in that first regular season game. So it

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>feels very similar, very similar to that, and that's why

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.879
<v Speaker 1>I believe that somebody's spot is going to get taken.

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that he's going to be taking a

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of Randy Gregory's reps over rushing off the edge.

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be vander Esh or it's gonna be

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Jalen Smith who's losing out on some of those nickel reps. Yeah,

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm right there with you on that. When you

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>see you know, the defensive corder, not the position coach,

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>not the linebacker, the defensive coordinator, you know, walking them

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 1>with the first round pick up and down the field

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.560
<v Speaker 1>after practice as if I'm in you know, Vanderesh, or

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>if I'm in Smiths shoes, I'm sitting there like all right, man,

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 1>one of us is up out of here. Or because

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>they I don't think they got in the room to

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.800
<v Speaker 1>keep all three and even if they do, somebody's reps

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 1>is getting taken. I mean you already seen it the

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:54.759
<v Speaker 1>writings on the wall when they were in that preseason game.

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, all three of them want to feel that

0:38:56.920 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 1>at some point, but then sometimes it was just you know,

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Vanderesh and Parsons, and then sometimes it was just Smith

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and um Parsons. So he's eating into regardless of whatever happens.

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Whatever whatever happens is far but weak one he's eating

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>into somebody's reps, whether it be Gregory off the edge

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>one of these linebackers. And if he keeps making plays

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and being around the ball like we saw in that

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>in that Steelers preseason game, I mean he might take

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>them off, you know. So it's gonna definitely gonna be tough.

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>But if I'm looking at that and seeing him walk

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>up and down the field with the coach and they're

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 1>doing everything that they can to make this guy special

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and make this guy be able to be on the

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>field as much as he can. So that's that's what

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that's what that is. That's all that is. And watch

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the relationship between Dan Quinn and Michael Parsons versus a

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>relationship you see between Mike McCarthy and Dak right. But

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.320
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn calls Michael Parson, Hey, man, come to the phone.

0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Hey who is this? He this DQ? Yeah, you know,

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, you know what you're doing wrong? Yeah, I

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 1>gotta play outside. All right, that's cool. Now we don't

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>let you go back in the game and you're gonna

0:39:56.400 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>chill out peace, phone up. That was good. So you

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>know that they're they're getting close and he has their

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 1>respect for dan Quinn knowing that he's going to put

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>him in the right position, and he trusts that when

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the season comes, dan Quinn is gonna get him out

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>there on the field. We know this, all right, so

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm expecting to see big things out of him, you know. Unfortunately,

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the at the cost of somebody else's

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Ribs professional football festival. Well so you guys had brought

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>up Dennis Shrewder who was with the Lads, and he

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>turned down an eighty four million dollar contract during the season,

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 1>And I just simply want to say this, While that

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>was dumb and yes, that was bad, that is not

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the worst contract turned down I've ever seen. A couple

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of years ago, there was a kid that the Mavericks

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 1>traded for from Philadelphia who was I think the third

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 1>pickover on the draft a few years before, named Nerlands Noel.

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Now by the time they got Newlands Nowell, here's the

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>guy who was a big disappointment. He never averaged a

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>double double at all. And Mark Kuban, against the advice

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of his own people, offered him seventy two million dollars

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe a seventy three, and Norland said no, he wanted

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>a max deal. And I'm thinking to myself, way, you've

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:11.479
<v Speaker 1>never averaged a double double in anything in your NBA career,

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and somebody's offering you seventy three million. You're about to

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>hold out because you want more, and wait, here's more food.

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Came to training camp out of shape, came to training

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>camp out of shape, turning out seventy three million dollars,

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 1>and so they made him play it out. First of all,

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 1>he fired his agent because he thought that the agent

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>should have got him a backs contract. So he fired

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the agent, picked up Lebron's guy. Lebron's guy called the

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Maps and they were like, yeah, man, we're not about

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to pay him anymore. We've come to our senses. He

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>played out the year. In the next season, he signed

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>a two year contract, which was basically one plus one

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 1>with a player option with the Oklahoma City for two

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 1>million dollars. I mean, you hate to see it, and

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, man, I don't understand, I don't understand

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like these But then again, I so you can see

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>like you got your like shrewder. He's seeing some of

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>his peers making hundreds of millions of dollars and he's like, well,

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm as good as him, or I'm as good as

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Chris Paul. I can I can go out there and

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 1>get you know, just as much money as they do,

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and you end up fumbling an eighty four million dollar bag.

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't understand it. You need the right in

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>your ear telling you the truth about what you are here,

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>what your work right, Because if you're telling yourself, then

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you think you Chris Paul, You think that you Steph Curry,

0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>that you find to get two hundred meals. You know

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. If you're just if you're the only

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.800
<v Speaker 1>person around that can tell you something that that you

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 1>know that has some validity, I will say, this is

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>another shocking thing that I saw. I'm not even sure

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>how long a good has happened, but my man, uh,

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Joe Looney goes to New York. He's there for one day,

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you know. He I think they had to run sprints

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>or something, you know what they got out there and

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>he's like, look, let me tell you something. My body,

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>my body is not gonna let me perform at that,

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the at the rate that I that

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was so peace Joe was about. I

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh man, I ain't signed up for none

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>of this be a backup anyways. Nah, I'm about of here, man,

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>And I tell y'all, the grass is not always greater

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.360
<v Speaker 1>side like the Cowboy everybody thinks, you know, and everything's

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>just like the Dallas Cowboys organization, and I'm telling you,

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm here to tell you it is not all right.

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>It is nowhere near the level that the Dallas Cowboys

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>organization is. So be wearing all those young free agents

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 1>out there, y'all cats, the grass is always not greener.

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>On the other side, I'm seking that I can second

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>bet and I broke my ass right back right, Coach,

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you got something, whatever you gott I'll take it to

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 1>get me out of here. Well, keep your mind. It

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.880
<v Speaker 1>was like maybe three or four giants, who quick, man,

0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm good about not about this life, man, not about

0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this life. So um, that's that's kind of funny because

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:03.919
<v Speaker 1>apparently they still have yet to give out the number

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 1>seventy three with the Cowboys, so maybe maybe Joe could unretire,

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, make some type of trade something. Anyway,

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it was it was hilarious to to see that the

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Giants and Joe Judge out here running guys off and

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>who knows what kind of you're they're gonna have, because well,

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>let me ask a question real quick, what makes y'all think, Well,

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 1>what y'all think makes these players, these veteran players. You're

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>already in the camp, you already did OTA's mini camp,

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 1>You're in the training camp right now. What makes you think, Well,

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.439
<v Speaker 1>what makes those players think all right, well I'm gonna

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.280
<v Speaker 1>wait all the way into the last minute to retire.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't think they had these thoughts you know

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in OTAs in mini camp, Like I wonder what you

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>know goes through their thoughts to where at training camp

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 1>they're just like, you know what, it's over. Yeah, I

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know why why Joe would do that, because I

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>know that him and j G would have had to

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 1>have some type of conversation to get him to come in.

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>And my thing is, no matter who it is, JG

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 1>or not, I'm just like, hey, man, you agree to

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 1>this as a a man's and say, hey, this is

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 1>what I want to do. I'm gonna come in and

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>this is what I agree to for one day. Yeah,

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, like one day I see you're having a

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>bad season, you know, like my boy was my man,

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>say man, I ain't going back out at the bad time,

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I'm staying in the locker room, you know.

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>But he went through the season and he was having

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 1>whatever thoughts or whatever. My land Joe was there for

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours. It wasn't like he was there, you know,

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>through all OTA's mini camp and then you know how

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I got that long break before camp. He was with

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>his family and he was like, you know what, I

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 1>just can't do it now. He was he was just

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>there for one day. Just don't come on. Yeah, I

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:38.480
<v Speaker 1>don't understand that at all, man, at all. All right,

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:40.800
<v Speaker 1>here's my thought, and this is just my thought that

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Jason convinced him. You know, he's been talking to him

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and talking to him and talked to him and then

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:47.520
<v Speaker 1>convinced him and he went up there and he got

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a taste of him. Now I'm gonna go right on

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>back here to grape Vine, Texas and uh lived the

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 1>rest of my life. I'm good. I don't need this.

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:59.120
<v Speaker 1>And I remember talking to Bart Scott once. Bart told

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>me the reason he didn't go back and play. At

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.000
<v Speaker 1>the end, he said, man, they were offering a million,

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>two million dollars and he said, after taxes for everything

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that I gotta put my body through. Is it worth that?

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 1>He said, no, it's not. It's like, you know, my

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>body's worth more than a half million dollars. Yeah, and

0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then or a million when you consider

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>just everything else. And he talked about I have to

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>move to a different place. My family's not going to

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>be here and around me, and he just at the

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, for him, he said it wasn't

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be worth the cost. And if a team

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to meet his number to come play, he said

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 1>he drew it. Team never met his number, so he

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>decided to retire and he got into broadcasting. That was

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 1>just a smart move. I mean, like like you said,

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>after you go through to everybody looks at that that

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that big number that jumps out all. He signed a

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>one year from you know, three million dollars or something

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>like that after taxes, depending on where you're playing. That

0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 1>let's just say you're playing in New York Man after

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the taxes, and you know, after you got to pay

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 1>taxes in each place you play in, and agent fees

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and all that and probabe costs of living and on

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 1>us stuff, it dwindles extremely fast. So you know, I

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>definitely can can believe when these older guys move on

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 1>at the last you know, last couple of years of

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>their career and they start thinking, you know, is it

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 1>is it worth? You know, they say three million, but

0:47:09.600 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>it's really gonna be around one point five one point one?

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it really worth putting my body, you know, through

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>six months of hell for that and leaving my family

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of these cats got you know, kids,

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and kids start in school and you're missing out a

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of that. So I guess that also has to

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:23.720
<v Speaker 1>go into it with these veteran guys. But I always

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 1>never understood, you know, why go in at the last

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 1>minute and then just retire right before the season. Never

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>understood it for me. Well, But I also go into this,

0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>and you guys know it well because now you both

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 1>have children. Is when you're away from your family, all

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the things that you put on your wife to handle,

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 1>that's true. And if you've got small kids, that's a lot.

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And if you're someplace you really don't want to be.

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And if you're doing any in like Barry, you had

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 1>secure the bag. So if you secure the bag, then

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 1>that's where you decide to say, man, is it really

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:58.800
<v Speaker 1>worth it. And that's where bart was. Barted secure the

0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 1>bag from the jet. So it was kind of thinging, man,

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to do it for this. And I

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, Barry, but you know, for a

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>guy like bart he thought about, hey, how many more

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.319
<v Speaker 1>hits to my putting all my body and how much

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>of the how many of those hits could result into

0:48:14.920 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 1>some longer term damage for my health and safety, and

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>he just felt for that money it wasn't worth it.

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you felt the same way when you just signed there. Yeah,

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm right there with bart On that one. I had

0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>offers from Seattle, offers from Washington once I was done

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 1>with the Jacksonville. But when you start thinking about it

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 1>and you know you gotta move, like you said, you

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 1>gotta move, and after taxes and all that stuff, and

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>then your body, your body's talking to you as well.

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's days I get out of bed and

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 1>for no reason, my toes are hurting, my ankles are hurt,

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, man, what, And then you get to

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:45.399
<v Speaker 1>the practice facility and you're like, how am I gonna

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 1>get through this practice? Like one of my my body

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:50.919
<v Speaker 1>is hurting and it talks to you after a while,

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 1>and then that's when a lot of guys, you know, say,

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what, money ain't even worth it. I'm gonna

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and call it a career. And then there's

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>some guys that go ahead and keep playing. And then

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 1>next thing, you know, those guys, you know, as they

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 1>get older, they have health problems. So definitely got to

0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>look out for your body. That's the number one thing

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're doing this NFL thing as a career. Man,

0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely a tough, tough career. Hey, that's the players Lounge.

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.440
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0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>our mojo moments try to make this thing go. But

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:22.160
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0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody here Dallas Cowboys dot Com behind the scenes and

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.279
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