1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Solid Verbo. I'll that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: for day Edith State? 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Is that? 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 3: Whoo whoom and Dan and Tie, Welcome back to the 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: Solid Burbo boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand, 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 3: joining me as always over there in beautiful New York City, 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: the one, the only, the man who unfortunately has the 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: Twitter past word, Dan Robitstein. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 4: So how are you. 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I am preparing for solo Dad Saturday 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: aka Sleepless Saturday aka what we're about to find out 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: your pitch is and then I will give you my 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: pitch Saturday. But otherwise, Ty no complaints. Life is all right. 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: It is week eleven. Welcome back to the show. Can't 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: believe we're already here in November, November, bert Tyvember, whatever 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 3: you'd like to call it. 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: We're aboard all those people clamoring for the month being 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: called Tivevember. 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: Subscribe to the show out on our website at soliverble 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: dot com. 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That 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: is actually just soliverble dot reddit dot com. So one 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: of two ways that you can get there. And last, 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: but certainly not least, if you want to call in 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: on this coming Saturday, on this coming Friday, as you're 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: watching college. 38 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: Football games, you can do so one of two ways. 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: Either four weight verbal one which is four eight eight 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: three seven two two five one. Or you can use 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: a little voice recorder, the app that every phone has nowadays, yep, 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: make a recording, a concise recording. I plead with you 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: a concise recording and then send it to us via 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: email at the reverb line at gmail dot com. That's 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: the reverb line all one word at gmail dot com. 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: We got a couple last week, so you can get 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: a couple more in week eleven. 48 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: Ten and if you want to contact tied directly six 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: one oh two, can I keep going? Okay, sorry scoundrel. 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: So what is your pitch for a week? Okay, because 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: there are some big games this week. 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some big games. This is where for 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of teams, it's not necessarily season defining. I 54 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: would say, I think there are some bigger matchups. Certainly 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: it's the biggest one in the SEC this season, but 56 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily season life time. I'm defining Penn State Minnesota. 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: You know, Minnesota can still have a good season if 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: they don't take down the Nitney Lions at home, and 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: same for Penn State. They can still have a successful one. 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: They're same for Baylor or Wisconsin against Iowa Oklahoma, Iowa State. 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: It's been a thorn, but it is where the rubber 62 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: meets the road. There is something about the ball not lying. 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: And initially my mind went to SAT Saturday a significant test. 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: It's not bad, that is not bad, but not end 65 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: all be all, but Sat Saturday, because Saturday starts with SAT. 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: It was too mushy for me, and so I'm going 67 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: with something that is a little bit more fun to say, 68 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: flows a little bit better where it's a significant test. 69 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Results don't lie. Everything's you know. You win, you win, 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: you lose, you lose, especially looking at you Wake Forest, 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. I have it Scantron Saturday. That is not 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: bad scan Tron's, especially with it being voting day this 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: past week. It's voting week, and yeah, you fill in. 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: You either get it right or you get it wrong, 75 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: and I don't think there's much room for error. That 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: is very good, Thank you very much, very good. I 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: am partial to scan Tron's Saturday. 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: My suggestion was going to be because it's a striking 79 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: week and it looks like it's got a lot of bark. 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: Maybe not striking week. Striking. 81 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: You just look at the slate before us, and it's okay, 82 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: here's some striking matchups. 83 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: I thought there was a Union reference of some kind. 84 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, nothing like that. But 85 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: it's striking Chicago teachers by the way. Hell yeah, it looks. 86 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: Like it's got a lot of bark, maybe not a 87 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: lot of bite. It's very family friendly if you look 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: at when these games are being played. I'm a little 89 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: partial to my puppy I was going to say samoids 90 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: Saturday type. 91 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: People don't even know how to spell that. This is 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: about branding. I had a winner last week. It's tough 93 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: to top what I had. It's true. Okay, Welcome to 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Scantrons Saturday, number two pencils only, yes, and keep your 95 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: eyes on your own paper. And you know you've been 96 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: You've been prepping all these things, been prepping for months 97 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: for this, so you've had time to get ready for 98 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: these big matchups. Now sit at your desk. And it's 99 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: also kind of collegiate, right Scantron's. 100 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 101 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to Scantron Saturday. 102 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 3: Welcome to Scantrons Saturday. But before we get there, I'm 103 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: not gonna yell the breaking news. My voice is ready 104 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: on its last legs. It's week eleven. 105 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: Doo doo doo, doot doot. 106 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: Trying to suckle down some of that wild sweet orange tea, 107 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: a little bit of honey key things going here. 108 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Nice, good for you. 109 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: Playoff rankings. We had the first playoff rankings that were released. 110 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: We did not have a chance to talk about them because, 111 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: like all big things in the podcast world, that happens 112 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: seemingly right after we hit stop correct sort. 113 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Of right, wasn't it last night? Tuesday night we record 114 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: Let's peel back this onion. We record the tues crews 115 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: on Mondays. We do it's up at six am on Tuesdays. 116 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't think we're pulling one over anybody. Sail early 117 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Here's your first four. We've got Ohio State one, 118 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: LSU two, Alabama three, and Penn State four. So to 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: big ten teams to SEC teams. You know, these are 120 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: like deck chairs in the Titanic at this point, they're 121 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: going to get all sorts of boggled around by the 122 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: time we get to the end of the season. Certainly 123 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: some teams in that top four are going to lose. 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: We know at least two of them will between now 125 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: and the end of the football season. 126 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: To round out the top ten, though, we have Clemson 127 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: at five, Georgia at six, Oregon your Oregon Ducks defending 128 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 3: Great box Ball champion Oregon Ducks ye at number seven, 129 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: followed by Utah, fill by Oklahoma, and followed by Florida. 130 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: Any surprises you think Penn State's the fourth best team 131 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: in the country, It's okay if you do. 132 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: I can't make a case against it at this point. 133 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe it in my bones 134 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: at this point, but I certainly understand why the committee 135 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: would go there because their strength of resumes so far 136 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: has been really, really formidable. 137 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the Michigan win is obviously doing the work 138 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: here because that's what separates them from Clemson. Through no 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: full fault of Clemson's own, their best win is A 140 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: and M, so I understand it. I don't know if 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: you have your your spreadsheet, your your mock up line 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: of like what a Penn State Clemson matchup would look 143 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: like on a neutral field, but it figured out. Yeah, 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: even with this year's results and not looking at last year, 145 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: not looking at talent level in general, I think I 146 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: have Clemson ahead of Penn State in my mind, right. 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: Neutral field Clemson by about ten. 148 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. So once you get into that double digit area 149 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: and I understand the Michigan win is, it looks more 150 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: impressive than ever. They held on to beat the Wolverines, 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: but otherwise it's been The Iowa win is I think 152 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: pretty good. They held on. They held Iowa without out 153 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: of the end zone right for three and a half corners, 154 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: so or at least maybe even more than three and 155 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: a half, So I can't really hold that much against 156 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Penn State. It's just more of an eye test thing 157 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: and that's harder to quantify. So I guess I'm okay 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: with Penn State at four. It's the first release of 159 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: the playoff rankings to make Clemson's higher quality right now. 160 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: But Penn State blows the doors off of Minnesota. I 161 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: think that's a pretty emphatic scantro on Saturday for them. 162 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: Clemson's likely going to move into the top four next 163 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: week after the Lsubama game, depending on how that game goes. 164 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: But I would say I have a pretty high level 165 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: of confidence that Clemson will be in the top four 166 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: next week. Georgia's probably blocked by the loser of that 167 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: LSU Bama game, at least for the time being. Your 168 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: Orga Ducts are uniquely positioned. If they can run the table, 169 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: if they can beat Utah whoever in the Pac twelve game, they. 170 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: Are in the top ten playoff team correct. 171 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 3: They are uniquely positioned here to maybe throw their hat 172 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: in the ring. Oklahoma all the way down at nine, 173 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: really needs a case State win over Texas this week. 174 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: They really need that. The way I see it, about 175 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 3: nine teams real shot at this. 176 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing going against Oregon right now is probably 177 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: what's out of their control and that the Arizona schools 178 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: in Oregon State are not going to come across and 179 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: they have a bye week this week as crazy impressive 180 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: to finish out the year. Whereas Alabama from this point 181 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: forward can beat LSU and Auburn, LSU can beat A 182 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: and M and Alabama, Ohio State has Penn State and 183 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: you know whoever comes out of the Big Ten West, 184 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: it looks like Minnesota, so they'll have more quality wins. 185 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: Clemson is going to struggle in that department, and Georgia 186 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: can can lay low. But yeah, they're they're blocked for 187 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: the time being. And I still think they have a 188 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: pretty good shot here after their win against Florida. So yeah, 189 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: Utah's lurking as well, and they could have a really 190 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: impressive win over Oregon in the Pac twelve championship game. 191 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: And yeah, Oklahoma needs help. And beyond that, I don't 192 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: think we're talking about playoff caliber teams. I don't think 193 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: so either. I think there's a there's a line, and 194 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, Auburn has a playoff caliber defense. I just 195 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: there's there's too many flaws beyond that line to me, 196 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: all right, Dan, time. 197 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: It is scan tron Saturday. Get those number two pencils ready. 198 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: Fill in your dots. Make sure you fill them in 199 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: completely so the scantron does not get confused. This is 200 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: all very important information. 201 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: That's true. And if you're going to a race, be 202 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: thorough What do they recommend white out? White out? Really 203 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: they don't. I don't know if they recommend white out? 204 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: What I know? You just have to really, really thoroughly 205 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: go for it, right, you can't. You can't be hazy 206 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: with your erasers. No, no, you gotta. You really got 207 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: to go for it, which is a good life lesson 208 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: to me. Don't be hazy with your erasing. Scandro on 209 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Saturday week, what are we twelve eleveven eleven? I don't know, ty, 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: I got very little sleep last night. 211 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: Let's do this. 212 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: Let's do. 213 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: This. May be the easiest. 214 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: Window of opportunity that we've had. I need, I need 215 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: to know this because it's childcare Saturday. 216 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: Exclose, single day, single dad Saturday. Excuse me, Yeah, solo dad, 217 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: solidad Saturday, not sad, different thing. 218 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 1: M h. 219 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: It's easy. It's a family friendly Saturday. I look at 220 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: the slate before us here there are a couple notable 221 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: night games. I guess I always state Oklahoma could be fun, 222 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: It's been fun in the past. I guess Missouri Georgia 223 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: has some intrigue for us here, at least as a 224 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: podcast goes, because we've been talking it up for months 225 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: on end and Notre Dame dude. 226 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, even app state South. 227 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: Carolina some intrigue there. Lower points spread than maybe people 228 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: might expect. But I think the bulk of your big 229 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 3: games are in the early half of the day before 230 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: dinner on the East Coast, and good for me, doesn't 231 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: help me much well little one people that then aren't 232 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: named Dan Rubinstein. I think your window of opportunity is 233 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 3: some time after LSU Bama go out and have a 234 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: date night. 235 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually it works out well for I'm going to 236 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: be selfish air and talking about me some more. It 237 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: works out. This is what I have to study and 238 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: everything I didn't see normally. I'm able to get up 239 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: early on Sunday mornings before the podcast and do you know, 240 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: catch up on everything I need to before we record, 241 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: So it'll just be more of a late night. So 242 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad that the action isn't always pertinent across the 243 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: board during primetime in late night, So that's good. Let's 244 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: start at high noon. It is on ABC. 245 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: It is the Penn State Nitney Lions, again number four 246 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: in the first college Football Playoff rankings this season, on 247 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: the road at the Minnesota Golden Gophers. This point spread 248 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: is at a brown six and a half seven points, 249 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: depending where you look. Of note here is that PJ. 250 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: Fleck got a new seven year deal just in time 251 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: for this game. 252 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: Dan about thirty three, mel I saw. I don't know 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: how the structure works out and how incentives work into that, 254 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: but yes he did. He started out really well. There's 255 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: sure to be interested in PJ. Fleck as jobs open up. 256 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: His enthusiasm, his passion. You know, we'll see if there 257 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: is more to PJ. Fleck than just enthusiasm and passion 258 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: against some of the lower teams in the Big Ten 259 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: as the schedule gets harder. But yeah, it was good 260 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: for Fleck and the Fleck family. 261 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 3: That is that is correct, and you know, to his credit, 262 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: there's a lot to like about Minnesota this year. They 263 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: might not be the flash last team, but thus far 264 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: they've been crazy efficient on both sides of the football, 265 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: and certainly in terms of raw atmospherics. They work to 266 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: Minnesota's advantage. Here. They're at home, it's an earlier game, 267 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: so it's a body clock situation. 268 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, people are. 269 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 4: Gonna be fired up for this. 270 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: I'd be glad if I were a Penn State fan 271 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: that it's an eleven am kick actually, rather than a 272 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, local six pm prime time. Whole place has 273 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: been drinking all days, used for the big event kind 274 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: of thing. 275 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: My problem is the matchup. Yeah, the matchup is what 276 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 3: bothers me because for starters, you look at Minnesota's resume, 277 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: you could make a case and I'm not making it, 278 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: but I'm saying hypothetically, somebody out. 279 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: There, do you want me to make a case. 280 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 3: You could make a case that their best win is 281 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: over South Dakota State. 282 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Whoa to all the haters who said that Minnesota couldn't 283 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: take down the jack Rabbits scoreboard. 284 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: They're number four in the FCS. Correct, you could make 285 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: that case. I'm not making it here, but you could 286 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: if you really tried. I do think they've gotten better 287 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: as the season's gone on, so it's not advisable to 288 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 3: take them lightly. There's just some degree of credibility missing 289 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 3: from their resume, and frankly, that's why they're eight to 290 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: zeroe ranked number seventeen in the first set of rankings. 291 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: Is that all fair? 292 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I left out Minnesota and talking about, you know, 293 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: tiers of playoff caliber teams. Minnesota wins all of their games. 294 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: It can be in the playoff. That's you know, I 295 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: would be surprised, but pleasantly surprised. Walk me through all 296 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: of the Big Ten starting quarterbacks Minnesota has faced this 297 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: year because it's none of them, Because it's Purdue, Illinois, Nebraska, Rutgers, Maryland, 298 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: all I believe started backup quarterbacks against Minnesota. Gopher's fault 299 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: absolutely not proper Gopher data, not necessarily. That's all the 300 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: point is behind that sort of snarky comment. They'll be 301 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: playing Penn State starting quarterback. They'll be playing a Penn 302 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: State offense that generally relies on explosion, bigger plays. Whether 303 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: it's kJ Hamler, Pat Fryermuth, do they call him baby gronk? 304 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: Is that a thing there? I've seen it. Yes, most 305 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: good tight ends are now known as baby gronk for 306 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: whatever reason. That is correct. So it's hard to fully 307 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: know what we have in Minnesota. They started the season 308 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: off slowly in terms of separating themselves from teams. They've 309 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: taken care of business out seeing the Purdue game wasn't 310 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: great for them, especially on defense. But you take care 311 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: of business, you win your clunkers. You're formidable. And so 312 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: as it relates to Penn State, I think the Knits 313 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: the Ninny Lions have an edge. I think part of 314 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: it is special teams. I think in order to beat 315 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: Penn State you have to do it repeatedly, putting together 316 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: drives down the field, which will become increasingly difficult over 317 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: the game. Over the course of the game, I like 318 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: Minnesota's offense, but this is a couple of tiers up 319 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: from what they've seen. I like the early kicktime for 320 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: Penn State. I think it's back and forth for a bit, 321 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: but ultimately it's the big plays from Penn State and 322 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: just the overall talent level of the backups, the threes, whatever, 323 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: they have to see action throughout a game. I have 324 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: at thirty one to twenty Penn State. 325 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: Interesting, I've got it at thirty one seventeen Penn State. Okay, 326 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: So three things that jump out at me and you're 327 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: all right. Everything you said is all right. In my book, 328 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: Penn State plays the run really well and that poses 329 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 3: a challenge for a Minnesota team that has relied on 330 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: the run to a great degree this year. I also 331 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: think Minnesota has a hard time keeping tan or Morgan 332 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: upright when they do have to pass. 333 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: I think they've been more successful passing it Minnesota than 334 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: running it, even though they've been some big numbers. I 335 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: think they've been a better passing team in terms of efficiency. Yes, okay, 336 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: but they've had plenty of games where they've relied on 337 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: that rushing attack as well. Correct. 338 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: Yes, So it's not to say that they're a one 339 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: trick pony, but I could see them trying to utilize 340 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: that run game to open things up, maybe try to 341 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: throw it downfield. I just don't think they're going to 342 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 3: have much success doing that. And I worry for Tanner 343 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: Morgan because this line has not been great at keeping 344 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: him upright. And we know it's a Penn State line 345 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: that's got a lot of bite to it. So that 346 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: that's number two. And the third thing is I don't 347 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 3: know if you saw, but James Franklin essentially made it 348 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 3: Facebook official naming Noah Kane his number one running. 349 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: Back is that? Is that a real real thing? 350 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 4: It is a real real thing. 351 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 3: Now. 352 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 4: It won't change next week. 353 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: It could change next week, but at least for this week, 354 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: he's number one on the depth chart. 355 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: That's good to see because that's actually been a place 356 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: where Penn State has struggled. If they need a four 357 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: minute drive and to really grind it out on the ground, 358 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: it hasn't always been there. 359 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: So I'm hoping now that they've kind of made this 360 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 3: commitment that it means more work for Noah King, And 361 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: if it does, it could could be a big game 362 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: for him on the ground. 363 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: I see that in his near future. 364 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: I like Penn State pretty comfortably thirty one seventeen, could 365 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: see it being close for half. 366 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm with you. 367 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: I think Penn State's a couple rungs better than Minnesota 368 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: at this point. You know, if I put my personal 369 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: biases aside, would love to see it be an awesome 370 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: story if Minnesota could pull the upset here at home, And. 371 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: What does that look like? What does that that Minnesota 372 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: upset look like? How do you beat Penn State if 373 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: you are Minnesota with their talent, their their strengths on 374 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: defense and offense. 375 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: They've got to figure out some way to rattle Sean Clifford. Okay, 376 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 3: they got to stop the run in rattle Shan Clifford 377 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: and hope that their offense can win the battle field position, 378 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: control the clock, and I think keep it relatively low scoring. 379 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: I don't think they can outscore Penn State. 380 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna need to if you want to win. Well, 381 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. Not in a shootout, right 382 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: right right, So it'll be it would be like a 383 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen win. Yeah for Minnesota if they're able 384 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: to pull it off, get a couple of big plays 385 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: from their big play receivers against a pretty good Penn 386 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: State secondary. 387 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 4: We're moving on. 388 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: Also at high noon on FS one, we've got the 389 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: Baylor Bears on the road at TCU. Okay, the revivalry, 390 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 3: as they say, yeah, two and a half points. I 391 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: hate this game so much. I hate I've heard great 392 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: things about Fort Worth. We had an undefeated Baylor coming in. 393 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: There's no love lost between these two teams. Got to 394 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: throw out the records and the revivalry. 395 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: Come on, I get in a revivalry. Yeah. 396 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 3: Oh, Yeah, I've been high on Baylor all preseason, all 397 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: regular season. I think this is a really good football team. 398 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: They've consistently gotten more consistent under Matt Rule. Sure it's 399 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 3: a thing, Okay, so good for them in terms of efficiency. 400 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: The defense has been better than the offense, which our 401 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 3: not really used to saying about Baylor. 402 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: But okay. 403 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: I like Charlie Brewer, I like the skill talent a lot. 404 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: Not crazy about their line play, but. 405 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: You get my point. I like Baylor a great deal here. 406 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: I like so much about Baylor, Yet I still feel 407 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: like TCU is going to win the game, and I 408 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: don't know how to emotionally deal with that. 409 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: What why? How score walk me through? Baylor's got Oklahoma 410 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: and Texas in the next two weeks of the season. 411 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: You think they're looking past the Frogs. 412 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: I think there's a potential here. 413 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: For a look now, Oh, get out of tech. I 414 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: think there's potential for a look ahead spot. No way, Madden, 415 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: this is a matchup that has a lot of teeth 416 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: to it. 417 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 4: Ty is it or is it not? 418 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: TCU's spot their brand to completely muck up the Big 419 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: twelve race here? 420 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: Oh? It for sure? Is Here's my general concern about 421 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: the Frogs right now. They might not have a quarterback. 422 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: Max Duggan hurt his I want to say his the 423 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: middle finger on his throwing hand as one does yep, 424 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: which if he plays, that's probably not the best way 425 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: to throw a football with twenty percent of the necessary 426 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: digits being broken. And you say to yourself, well, there's 427 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks on the TCU roster. You look at and 428 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: I think it was the reddit CFB subreddit, the college 429 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: football subreddit on Reddit. They went through the quarterback room 430 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: for TCU, and it's like next guy transferred, next guy rickets, 431 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: next guy, next guy undisclosed SCD, next guy transfer portal, 432 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: and then it's like all the way down to possible 433 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: walk on if he gets the grades or something like. 434 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: It's not great. So when a position like quarterback is 435 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: hanging in the balance to that degree, I'm happy to 436 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: just go with the other team that happens to have 437 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: a snow advisory defense. 438 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 4: Why is hold on? 439 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Then I'll play the snow advisory. 440 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: But why why is the line only two and a 441 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 3: half in favorite Baylor's at TCU? 442 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: TCU has I mean, they have good players, their defense 443 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: is fine. They they're in games. They got blown out 444 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: by what Iowa State, and otherwise they've they've been competitive, 445 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: so mean, they're coached. Well, they gave up a ton 446 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: on the ground last week, which wasn't great. I have 447 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: Baylor twenty three to fourteen. I think the Bears got 448 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: a couple of big plays through the air. TCU has 449 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: one four straight in this last year. They beat them 450 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: by a touchdown in Waco. So I get your concern, 451 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: but no, the Ricketts factor of the of the tc quarterback. 452 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: Round emotionally mentally conflicted. 453 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: Here. 454 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 3: You know my stance on TCU one night stand. Come on, 455 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: you know my stance on TCU. You know where I 456 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: stand on Baylor. I do like this snow advance, but 457 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: I like. 458 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: Coming up to Waitco Waco Rato games in Fort Worth, 459 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: but all the same game is in Fort Worth. 460 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: I think Baylor is the better team I have all year. 461 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with that. I think it's twenty four 462 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: to twenty one Baylor wins, but it's close. Okay, So 463 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 3: you have Baylor sneaking out the cover. I do, Yeah, okay, 464 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 3: I do. Maybe a little bit of a front door 465 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: cover here. Up. 466 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: You just scared some dogs. Sorry A lot of samoid's 467 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: out there. It's gone to a big Tomali Dan. 468 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 4: Three thirty. 469 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: You couldn't even raise your voice for that one. 470 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 3: Three thirty CBS NBR LSU at Alabama the Crimson Tide, 471 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 3: a six and a half point home favorite. Is this 472 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 3: one game of the century? 473 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: Is it? 474 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: Has it achieved game of the century labeling? 475 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the biggest LSU Alabama matchup since twenty eleven. 476 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: I mean we probably say that most ears, but yeah, 477 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: it feels true enough this year, two playoff teams playing number. 478 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: Two versus number three, if you want to get technical 479 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: about it, talking about the College Trooble playoff rankings, Dan, Yeah, 480 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 3: big match up here. Alabama's won the last eight, which 481 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: is wild. The last eight have gone to Alabama. They've 482 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: had a dominant run, obviously, not just in this game, 483 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: but throughout all of college football. What's meaningful to me, though, 484 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: is that, for the first time in what feels like forever, 485 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: maybe all the way back to twenty eleven, I had 486 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 3: a hard time picking a winner here. 487 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: Okay, and I know there are. 488 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: No moral victories in it's football and man ball and 489 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: sports ball and whatever else, but that in and of 490 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: itself stands for something in my book, because for as 491 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: long as I can remember now, BAMA has been so dominant. 492 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: I don't remember having that dilemma before me when looking 493 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: at this game. And I think college football is more 494 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: interesting when this game is interesting. So I'm excited. Just 495 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: I mean, this game is always interesting, It's always interesting, 496 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: but in a modern era. Yeah, I just haven't felt 497 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: in so long like this was a close, almost coin 498 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,479 Speaker 3: flippy kind of game, and that's meaningful to me as 499 00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 3: a college FOT. 500 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 1: I like LS was averaging three point three points these 501 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: last three years in this matchup, over under LSU scoring 502 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: more than three points, I'll go over. Yeah. 503 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, did you know that only three times in 504 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: the last fifteen meetings has the winning team scored thirty 505 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: or more points in this matchup. 506 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: I didn't know that exact stat, but yes, I do 507 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: know that it's been relatively low scoring. Where do you 508 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: come down here? So, first off, you didn't mention Tua's 509 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: right ankle. 510 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: I did not. I was building to that, Dan, But continue. 511 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: Okay, Well you asked me a question, so to I 512 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: had a procedure. He I believe had the tightrope procedure. 513 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: The tightrope system anchoring. And I look this up. Obviously, 514 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: the tibia and fibula together with a braided polyethylene chord 515 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: sure tie to help stimulate recovery. Okay, that sounds awkward. Yeah, well, 516 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: so that brings up a question to me, is a 517 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: hobbled to a tough better than a healthy bon Knicks? Oh? 518 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, really? 519 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm just asking the question because LSU took 520 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: on an Auburn team with an excellent defense and an 521 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: offense that was pretty inconsistent that day, and it was close. 522 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: It was tight. And so if Tua isn't as good 523 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: as a healthy bone Knicks, and Ta certainly is not 524 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: as good as Mac Jones. If he can't move, it's 525 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: a problem. It's a definite problem. So how I come 526 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: down in this game is the worries are obviously to 527 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: his ankle, and to a lesser degree, Bama's rush defense. 528 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I think they're a good enough big game team. LSU 529 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: has a very efficient ground attack. We've seen Clyde Edwards 530 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: Laire really thrive this season. He's just he's patient. He 531 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: hits the lane really hard. So he's been a pleasure 532 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: to watch. And on the other side, LSU's pass rush. 533 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: I think there's just generally an assumption that LSU, with 534 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: how well they recruit, especially on defense, and the speed 535 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: on defense that they get after everybody, they haven't been 536 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: really getting home this season. They haven't been getting to quarterbacks, 537 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: have been putting a ton of pressure, at least relative 538 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: to where they've been in previous years, and even stopping 539 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: the ground game of teams you've been able to run. 540 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: We saw some big runs from Florida from Auburn, not 541 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: all game long, but we saw some cracks in this 542 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: LSU rush defense that certainly Alabama can exploit. LSU certainly 543 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: is built to beat Alabama. I still like Alabama's secondary 544 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: a good deal. LSU is going to We've talked about this. 545 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: This is a broken record, the fearlessness, the talent at receiver, 546 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: the size at receiver for LSU, all of that is there. 547 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: But but and I did see I don't know if 548 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: you saw that Joe Burrow played in this game last 549 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: year with a separated shoulder. I saw that. Yeah. Yeah, 550 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: So that at least is further context perhaps for why 551 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: LSU struggled. But they were not the offense that they 552 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: are this year. Last year I have at thirty to 553 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: seventeen Bama. Wow, that's a pretty big margin. I'm gambling 554 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: onto A being passibly healthy. But I think it's it's 555 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: in Tuscaloosa under those weird, stupid lights that they have 556 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: in that stadium. Now I don't like them. Sorry, I'm 557 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: not a fun police officer, but it's not my favorite. 558 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: And I just think those receivers for Alabama going against 559 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: the secondary at LSU, who's so good. There's so much 560 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: talent on that secondary. But over the course of four quarters, 561 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried about this LSU offense against 562 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: Alabama's defense comparable to Auburn's defense. I don't think Alabama 563 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: has quite the talent they did last year. Quinn Williams 564 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: did so much to disrupt LSU last year, and they 565 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: don't have a Quinn Williams upfront this year Alabama. But 566 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: over those four quarters, I think Alabama and that speed 567 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: and at least a seventy five percent to this is 568 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: my pick is built around a seventy five percent healthy 569 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: TOA because you got to pick a percentage if you're 570 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: gonna preview this game and make a you know, plant 571 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: your flag. Thirty to seventeen Bama, So I do think 572 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: they get to thirty exactly. 573 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: My pick is also contingent on a seventy five to 574 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 3: eighty percent to A. Okay, I think we're looking at 575 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: a fun thirty five to thirty one game. 576 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so shootout by relative terms for this matchup, correct. 577 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 3: I want to see if Bama can run against LSU, 578 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: because if they can, if they can establish Nase Harris, 579 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: that makes their what four headed receiver. 580 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: Monster even more dangerous? Yeah, and Elsie's got a three 581 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: headed receiver monster. They do be fair, yeah, they do. 582 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 3: But I'm really excited about those Bama receivers this year. 583 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 3: I don't know how you cover all four of them. Okay, 584 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: I've got Alabama winning thirty five thirty one, but I'm 585 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: taking points here. 586 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a follow up? Please? So you're 587 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: taking points because the spread is about a touchdown? Yep. 588 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: If to A starts rolls out, rolls as ankle, which 589 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to happen, it's like, well, it's mac 590 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: joone this time. How does that alter your prediction? Receivers 591 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: are still there, defense is still there, Najah Harra is 592 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: still there. How does a mac Jones let out, how 593 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: does the mac Jones show alter? Your prediction is an automatic? LSU? 594 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: It's not automatic? 595 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: Okay, it's not automatic because if Nick Saban's proven anything, 596 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 3: it's that he can adjust. Yeah, and he's adjusted to 597 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: coaching staffs turning over year after year. He's adjusted to 598 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: a lot in his tenure at Alabama. So I don't 599 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: think it necessarily means instant death for Alabama, but it 600 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: definitely means a more conservative game plan, and certainly in 601 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: that instance, the ability to establish Naji Harris or some 602 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: sort of rushing attack would be key. 603 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have twenty seven to twenty four LSU. In 604 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: that situation, I think they adde them. 605 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 3: I tell you what the move would be, actually, Okay, 606 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: the move would be if Alabama goes up early, if 607 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 3: you got some sort of live betting app jump on 608 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 3: LSU and maybe go counter to our seventy five a 609 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 3: little contingency. 610 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: Oh, you think there's gonna be an overreaction. Alabama goes 611 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: up ten to three with still the two of possibility at. 612 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: More points, and then there's a chance that it tightens up. 613 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: If two, it gets hurt because. 614 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: Two has been locked up. Yeah, he has those ankles. 615 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: The other thing was the left ankle and the right 616 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: the right foot, the right ankle, and injury in that 617 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: area generally stepping forward, that's accuracy being able to step 618 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: into your throws, you know, planting his power hips and 619 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: shoulder whatever his power. But it's the accuracy stepping into 620 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: your throws and really staying on balance and on platform. 621 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: So if accuracy goes, could be a long day. 622 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: And also, if you are one of those individuals that 623 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 3: wants to bet on a game after kickoff, if by 624 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: the second half it looks like your BET's gonna lose, 625 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: you could always take the other side that whole thing. 626 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: Check out my bookie dot ag. 627 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Oh great call. 628 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the premier place to bet on all your 629 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: favorite sports action, especially NFL and college football every weekend. 630 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 3: You can join now. 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It is the game every 641 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: year that causes us to dig out of the archives. 642 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: The old YouTube video you put together. Uh yeah, the 643 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: nature film, the Iowa Wisconsin nature film for what it is, 644 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: the Heartland Trophy. Yes, I believe, so that is correct. 645 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: There's a Brass Bowl involved. 646 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 5: Ty. 647 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: Wisconsin's won three in a row, three in a row. 648 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if that affects how you pick this game, 649 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: but this might Iowa. For as crazy good as their 650 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: defense has looked basically all year long, their offense is 651 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: averaged less than excuse me, fewer then fewer then one 652 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: touchdown per game against the good teams that they've played 653 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: in Michigan, Penn State, and Iowa State. 654 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: So what that tells me is as at the point spread, 655 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 3: which is nine and a half, that tells me that. 656 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: Go Wisconsin here. Yeah, so we know what it takes 657 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: to beat Wisconsin at this point, week eleven. It takes 658 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: speed and downfield passing or just being the Illinois fighting alive. 659 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: That's what it takes. Iowa is neither fast or great 660 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: downfield in the passing game. For as much as I 661 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: think we both admire Nate Stanley and the best of 662 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: Nate Stanley, that's not them. That's not how they win games. 663 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: And so I think even though we have downgraded Wisconsin 664 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: a bit since that early start where people were freaking out, 665 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: like they're shutting out everybody, Oh my god, history, I 666 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: have a twenty one ten Wisconsin. 667 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: I've got it, twenty eight thirteen Wisconsin twenty eight thirteen. 668 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: That's a lot of points score against his Iowa defense. 669 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: This is a very and not only is the Iowa 670 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: defense good and your your prediction is valid, but Iowa's 671 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: defense is particularly good at stopping longer run plays by 672 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: Honky are run plays they are? And not that Wisconsin 673 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: relies on that. 674 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 3: No, but that's that's a and butter thing for sure. 675 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I just I was parkening back to 676 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 3: the old game that we played probably last week. I 677 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 3: know we played every week, but how many points does 678 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 3: iowould need to score to win here against Wisconsin? And 679 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 3: I think we agree that the answer is probably twenty 680 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: to twenty four. 681 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: They got to score more than twenty. Yeah. Yeah, the 682 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: weather's going to be fine. It'll be a little chilly 683 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: about thirty eight forty, But we're not. That's big ten 684 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: poor stuff. Yeah, No, So can Iowa get there? I 685 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: don't think so. 686 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: I think the Wisconsin defense is too much. I think 687 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: they win, I think they cover. I think it's something 688 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: like twenty eight thirteen. Jack Cohn's been good enough as 689 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 3: a passer here to give Wisconsin enough balance. And I'm 690 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: sticking to my guns. Twenty eight thirteen Wisconsin wins at home. 691 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 3: They covered the nine and a half. 692 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: You don't have faith in big game Brian Farrens's offense, No, 693 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, all right, so we agree. We're 694 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: were agreeing a lot today, which I don't like this. 695 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't like this at all. 696 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: And finally, in terms of our headliners here, we've got 697 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: a bunch of other games to get through. But eight 698 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 3: pm on Fox the Nightcap, it is Iowa State on 699 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: the road in Norman, Oklahoma against the Sooners. Oklahoma is 700 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 3: a fourteen and a half point favorite. DAN of note 701 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: here since Matt Campbell arrived in Ames. The biggest margin 702 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 3: of victory in this game ten points, only ten points 703 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: by Oklahoma back in twenty sixteen and last year again 704 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen. But you might remember two years ago 705 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: the big upset in Norman. Iowa State went on the 706 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: road in twenty seventeen, they won thirty eight thirty one. 707 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: Do we think that Matt Campbell has a little bit 708 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 3: of Lincoln Riley's number here? 709 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: First of all, put Joel Lanning's name on this matchup. 710 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: Please put his name on this matchup fair after his 711 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: performance a little ways ago. I think Matt Campbell gets 712 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: his team up for big games. I think there's almost 713 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: like a little bit of Tom Herman too, maybe played 714 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: down when you shouldn't play up when you should. So 715 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: I always say it's good enough to hang around in 716 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: this game. This is not I agree with that it's 717 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: not a bulletproof Oklahoma defense, especially on the ground, where 718 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: Iowa State has been inconsistent, But the best of Iowa 719 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: State on the ground has pretty impressive more recently. Anyway, 720 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: My problem is I don't know if the Clones have 721 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: enough firepower to keep up in a shootout. And you 722 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: could have said that about k State. That game was 723 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: in the Little Apple, though, So there is a little 724 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: bit a little more juice there, and this one's in Norman. 725 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: I think Ioways stayed in the red zone is good 726 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: enough on defense to turn Oklahoma sixes into threes to 727 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: generate some field goals or field goal attempts. Ultimately, though, 728 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma is good enough and they sort of 729 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: go as their running backs go. When we saw in 730 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: that K State game, it was sort of Jalen Hurts 731 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: and a little bit of beck Meyer syndrome having to 732 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: do it all himself, and I don't love that idea. 733 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: I have this as a front door cover for Oklahoma, 734 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of cover. Sorry dog, sorry doggies forty 735 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: one twenty four Oklahoma, but perhaps it's twenty eight to 736 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: twenty one, you know, thirty one, twenty four deep into 737 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: the game, and then ultimately it's just maybe some sort 738 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: of explosion play at the end. Oklahoma coming off of 739 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: bye week at home. I believe oklhoem is coming off 740 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: a bye week, right, yep, yep, Yeah, I'm gonna go 741 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 1: boomer sooner here, but I think it's gonna be a 742 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: fun one for a healthy chunk of it. 743 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: Oklahoma is ninth in the playoff rankings, and I think 744 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 3: they are smart enough to know that they can't take 745 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 3: any weeks off. I think Lincoln Riley looks at this 746 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 3: game and says, if I can score one hundred, I'll try. 747 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: They did have the week off to recover from the 748 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: k State loss. 749 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 4: Oklahoma's gonna win this game. 750 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 3: My problem with it as it relates to the point spread, though, 751 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 3: is that they're gonna win this game by either fourteen 752 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 3: or twenty one points and it's one hundred percent the 753 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: kind of situation where the point spread comes down to 754 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 3: the wire and there's a garbage time touchdown that may 755 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 3: or may not screw the whole thing up. So I 756 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 3: want the points here. I'll take fourteen with the little 757 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: hook at the end. I think Oklahoma wins thirty eight 758 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 3: to twenty four. But I don't like that point spread, 759 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna go iwa stay in that respect. 760 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: Here's my problem. Even though we celebrated him for an 761 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: entire month, that would be bro October. Yeah, the end 762 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: of the Oklahoma State game where Brock Party in a 763 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: close game down seven through seventeen interceptions. Do you treat 764 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: a performance like that like, well, everybody has a bad day, 765 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: and like we've said, before. Don't judge somebody on their worst. 766 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: Don't judge somebody on their best. Everything in between is 767 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: what matters. That was his worst day. Did happen relatively 768 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: recently against a team that's probably not as good as Oklahoma? 769 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: Does that color your opinion of him winning a close 770 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: game on the road. No, because we've seen it before. No, 771 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: well we haven't really seen it from brock Party against Oklahoma. 772 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 3: Maybe not, but no, I think he's a good enough 773 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 3: player that it doesn't It doesn't worry me too much. 774 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I think we agree, but I guess we agree 775 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: on the outcome of the game. 776 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 4: All Right. 777 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 3: Some other quick notables that we do need to mention here. 778 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: If we could travel back in time, Dan, if you 779 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 3: could give me the sound for a second ten thirty 780 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 3: on Friday night on FS one, it's Washington at Oregon State. 781 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: Washington's a ten point road favorite. Now of note here, 782 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 3: and I do want to mention this. In our initial 783 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: document I did forget to label this game as being 784 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 3: on a Friday night, So I appreciate you doing the 785 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 3: responsible thing and attaching the movie art from Ice Cubes 786 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 3: Friday as well as the Rebecca Black headshot. It's my 787 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: privilege and honor, just to give it a nice little 788 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 3: touch there and remind me. Also, Dan, this game starts 789 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,959 Speaker 3: at three point thirty am one time. Are you gonna 790 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 3: stay up for this one? 791 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, no, absolutely not. It's soloed out Saturday. 792 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: I'll be in bed by eight. I need everything I 793 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: can get. So, as it relates to this specific game, 794 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: it is a short week road hangover spot for Washington 795 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: losing the way they did to Utah going on the road, 796 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: and it's not a long flight to Corvallis from Seattle. 797 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: It's pretty sure. I've actually done Eugenis Seattle and it's 798 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: actually pretty scary. And the small plans that Alaska has 799 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: there is an opportunity for an all time great kung 800 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: fu cliche and student becoming the master Jonathan Smith and 801 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: Chris Peterson. And certainly Washington's offense has not been the 802 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: same since Jonathan Smith left. The Oregon State's defense is 803 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: by far the worst thing in this game. But I 804 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: cannot ignore the short week road and the hangover factor 805 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: as well. So I have this as a field goal 806 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: game for Washington. Yeah, I have this as like thirty 807 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: four to thirty one. I don't think Washington's as bad 808 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: as they've been against the better teams on their schedule 809 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: and Gallen Stanford, and I don't think Oregon State is 810 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: quite there defensively to beat at least an okay Washington team. 811 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: So they'll run a little bit on Washington because that's 812 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: what you're able to do. They have two good running 813 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: backs and Artavis Pierce and Jamar Jefferson. I hope everybody's healthy. 814 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: I did not look up Oregon State's current health, but 815 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 1: I think they're healthy. Yeah, Oregon States, wait for thirty 816 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: one Washington Shamar Smith, Nashan Wright and Kolby Taylor per 817 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 1: Don Best. I assume the master the master. 818 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I uh, they're my home dog of the week. 819 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: Actually, Oregon State, will you watch this game? You don't 820 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: sleep hoom dog of the week. 821 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 3: No, I'm not watching this game, but short week, weird 822 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 3: spot in Corvallis. The Beaver defense is capital be bad. 823 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 3: But I don't know they score points. So I don't 824 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 3: think Washington's all that great. I've been saying that for 825 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks now. I don't think they win outright, 826 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 3: that's a bridge too far. But can they cover ten 827 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: at home. 828 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they can. One of the weirder things that happens 829 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: at Oregon State games. I assume you have not been 830 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: to Corvallis No okay. On big third down plays or 831 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: big they need a stop plays on defense, they pipe 832 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: in the sound of a chainsaw, which almost doesn't make sense. 833 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: I understand how it's congruent to a beaver in you know, 834 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: cutting wood, eating wood, whatever, but I feel like the 835 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: chainsaw has replaced the beaver. So they're celebrating the technological 836 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: advancement that's putting beavers out of work and creating dams. 837 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're familiar with that. That's a 838 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: little bit just a local trib for you. 839 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 3: It's a little that's a little bit of a deep 840 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 3: cut for me. Dan, not gonna lie, no problem. What 841 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 3: is your order from Yakos? By the way, my order 842 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 3: from Yakos? 843 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're going in there, you want a quick dog, 844 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: what's what's your order? 845 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 3: I will usually get two to three Yaco dog, depending 846 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 3: how hungry I am toppings. It's usually just the Yaco dog, 847 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 3: the hot dog with the special sauce on. 848 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: What is the special sauce? That's sort of like a 849 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: chili sauce interesting like a thinner or a sledgeier. And 850 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: I say that lovingly. I love a good sludgie chili. 851 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 3: Uh, it's sort of in between, actually, okay, a little 852 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 3: bit of a little bit of a little bit of 853 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 3: bee is it? 854 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: Is it like a squiggle to it? Or is it 855 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: a squiggle? Yeah, like a mustard or ketchup squiggle like 856 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: thin enough for a squiggle. No squiggle. It is like 857 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: it's a top, Yes it is. Okay, two or three 858 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: yacos dogs, So I assume they're not super No, they're 859 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: not gigantic, right, Okay, okay. 860 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 3: Next game three thirty ABC USC at Arizona State. Arizona 861 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 3: State a two point favorite once a year, Dan we 862 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 3: gather to reflect upon Lin Kiffin getting fired on the tarmac. Yes, 863 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 3: at almost what six years now? 864 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: This one's a coin flip to me. This game. 865 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with ASU for two reasons. First Off, 866 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 3: the defense is pretty good. I don't think good enough 867 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 3: to fully stop USC, but good enough to force turnovers 868 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 3: and get Jayde and Daniels a few more bites at 869 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 3: the apple. And secondly, I think there's an opportunity here 870 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 3: for Ineno Benjamin to run the football and control some 871 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 3: of that time of possession for ASU. I think it's ugly. 872 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go twenty one to twenty Asu. I'll take 873 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 3: the points even though there's only two of them. 874 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: Okay, who's favored? So it's Asu? Excuse me. ASU's favored 875 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: by two, right, So you think they'll win by one? 876 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: So you're going to take You think it's a one 877 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: point game. You feel confidently enough in USC winning or 878 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: losing by a hair? Sure? Okay, it's reasonable enough. USC 879 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: still beat up and they're definitely in letdown, if not 880 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: body blow mode. You can play the sound. And also 881 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: it's it's possible. I don't know if I'm fully there, 882 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 1: but there's a potential bottom falling out of this USC 883 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 1: season in play? Right? Yeah? All we hear about is 884 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: will the new USC ad have permission to hire urban Meyer? 885 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: Will USC make a move sooner rather than later? Who 886 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: is James Franklin on the table? We saw James Franklin rumors? 887 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: Is he a potential candidate for USC? I saw I 888 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: think it was Pete Thamil from Yahoo said he is 889 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 1: who some people at USC If it's not gonna be 890 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 1: urban Meyer? Who makes a lot of sense interesting. Okay, 891 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,959 Speaker 1: USC struggled with a similar Colorado team. I would say 892 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: on the road that they have the potential for offense, 893 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: but there are definitely some deficiencies all over the field. 894 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,319 Speaker 1: That was just a couple weeks ago, and that's a 895 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: beat up USC. With that struggle ASU weathered. They didn't 896 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: do a great job, but they weathered the Wazoo air 897 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: raid and came away with a win. I was more 898 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: because of Wazoo's defense than anything, but still they weathered 899 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 1: it enough. I have ASU by six thirty one, twenty five. 900 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: I think it's a bad situational spot for the Trojans. 901 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: I agree. 902 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 4: I do agree with that. 903 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have ASU covering here all right, rapid fire 904 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 3: through five other games. Yeah, three thirty ACC Network wake 905 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 3: Forest at Virginia Tech. 906 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 4: Wake Forest a two and a half point road favorite. 907 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: DAN. Last time they played, Frank Beemer raised his hands 908 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: in glory about going to an overtime period at zero zero. 909 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: I believe that was a six to three double overtime thriller. 910 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: The last time they played, that's it was twenty fourteen, 911 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, twenty thirteen. It's been years, plural years since 912 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: these two teams have played. I think it takes an 913 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: offense to take down Wake. Sort of takes a village, 914 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: and I don't think from what I saw from Virginia 915 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: Tech last week, even though they're at home, even though 916 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: it's in Lane Stadium. The thing that I am worried 917 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: about though I thought this line would be a little bigger. 918 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: It surprised me too. Worry some lines you're supposed to 919 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: steer into. But I can't justify a Virginia Tech offensive 920 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: explosion because I think Wake's gonna get there. So I 921 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: have waked by a touchdown after Virginia Tech last week 922 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,800 Speaker 1: let their potential signature season win slip away. We agree 923 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: also at three point thirty ESPN two Louisville Louisville at Miami. 924 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 4: Miami is a six point favorite. 925 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 3: This is another one where I thought the line was 926 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 3: gonna be different, okay, and I think I like the 927 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 3: Miami defense too much. I really like this line for 928 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 3: the Caynes. I thought it was gonna be higher. So 929 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 3: I'm taking Miami. 930 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Miami as well. So for 931 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: similar reasons, it's a bit of a letdown spot after 932 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: the Florida State win that got Florida State's coach fired, 933 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,760 Speaker 1: or at least was the final nail. Louisville just allows 934 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: too much through the air. And I know Miami has 935 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: been up and down offensively, relying on big plays, but 936 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: they got him last week and they've gone the past 937 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: couple weeks, and so I think the Miami offensive line 938 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 1: has improved. So I think just maybe that passing attack alone, 939 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: because Louisville's defense is improved, but it's still all that good. 940 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: It's you know, your daughter has an awful, awful boyfriend, 941 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: they break up and she starts dating somebody new and 942 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,839 Speaker 1: not great, but it's better than the old guy. So 943 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: Louisville has a ways to go. They're fun on offense, 944 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: but give me Miami. 945 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 3: Here three point thirty ESPN. We've got ky State on 946 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 3: the road at Texas. Texas is about a touchdown favorite here, Dan. 947 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 3: That feels like a lot to me. Why feels like 948 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 3: a lot to me because I think k State does 949 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 3: the fundamentals quite well and they've been pretty dept at 950 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 3: controlling the clock. Still not entirely sure that they're balanced 951 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 3: enough on offense, but I feel like Chris Kleiman has 952 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 3: been working all week in his fantasy fact after the 953 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 3: Oklahoma win two weeks ago, to try and come up 954 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 3: with a game plan here for this Texas game. So 955 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 3: I think Texas may win the game outright, but maybe 956 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 3: like thirty four thirty. 957 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 1: I think it could be close. Okay, so let's not 958 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: judge Texas on their worst day, and they aren't getting healthier. 959 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how healthier they'll be in the secondary, 960 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: but this is not exactly a Kansas State team who 961 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: should be able to throw a ton. But I guess 962 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: we could have said that about Kansas. I have Texas close. 963 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,919 Speaker 1: It's they're coming off a bye week, they're at home. 964 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: It's the second straight road game for Kansas State. However 965 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: much you believe in that being an obstacle, Kansas State 966 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: probably needs to win on the ground, and at least 967 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: the ground is a place where Texas is not a disaster. 968 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: It's not bad, right, it's fine. They're fine up front. 969 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: The secondary has been just a mess. You can pick 970 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: on them all day. So I'm going to go with Texas. 971 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to take the points, though, So I think 972 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: we agree. I have Texas like thirty three to thirty. Yeah, 973 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: we agree. 974 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 3: Okay, seven PESPN Miszoo at Georgia. Georgia a seventeen point favorite. Here, Dan, 975 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 3: we've had this one circled for a long time. 976 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: I've again thoroughly erased the circle on Scandal on Saturday. 977 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a game that we had highlighted a 978 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 3: while back. It's always been a bit of an intriguing 979 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 3: matchup for me. I think George is way better than Miszoo, 980 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 3: let's get that out there. But this does feel like 981 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,720 Speaker 3: a weird game where somehow Miszoo covers the spread, keeps 982 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 3: it close even though Georgia wins. It sort of is 983 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 3: like a little bit damaging to the dogs. 984 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 1: Thirty seven thirty one Wyoming twenty one to fourteen, Vanderbilt 985 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: twenty nine to seven Kentucky. There is your road slate. 986 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 1: I know Zoo, I know in twenty ninety. 987 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 3: But yet a couple of weeks ago you said, yeah, 988 00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 3: this is the game that they're going to play him tight. 989 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: I was a different guy a couple of weeks ago. Okay, okay, 990 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,800 Speaker 1: so potential letdown spot for Georgia Miszoo though again nightmare 991 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: on the road. And this is a quote I hate 992 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: to see it was. I think it was Bury oed 993 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: and at least it was an Amazoo coach said if 994 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: we had to play tonight, it would not be Kelly 995 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: Bryant out there. He's not ready. That's a subversion of that. 996 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: That was a day and a half ago, and this 997 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: is Miszoo on the road. I don't see it. I 998 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,280 Speaker 1: think even with it being a letdown spot, maybe Georgia 999 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: starts slow like they're prone to do. I have it 1000 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 1: thirty four to thirteen Dogs. 1001 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:45,479 Speaker 3: And finally seven pm ESPN two app State. App State 1002 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 3: lost a week ago. They are on the road at 1003 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 3: South Carolina. The line is only five in favor of 1004 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 3: South Carolina. 1005 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: Dan. Yeah, this is an interesting matchup, isn't it? A 1006 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 1: team that gave up forty one to Tennessee m HM. 1007 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,719 Speaker 1: App State plays a tough brand of football. App State 1008 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: does play a tough brand of football. Their defense isn't 1009 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,919 Speaker 1: necessarily was it where it was? Excuse me under Scott 1010 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: Sadderfield and his staff, But still fine, still pretty good. 1011 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1012 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: If South Carolina wins this game, it'll be on the ground. 1013 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 1: And that's what I think happens here. App State coming 1014 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: off of a loss, going back out on the Road. Yeah, 1015 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take South Carolina. I get South Carolina by 1016 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: a field goal. Oh, so you have You're gonna take 1017 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: those points, taking the points, getting South Carolina wins by 1018 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: seven late. All right, That is all I have in 1019 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 1: my list, Dan, you got anything else? H Wyoming at 1020 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: Boise State. I know you like to ignore the Mountain 1021 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: West because you have an East coast bias, but that 1022 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: should be quite fun. I think I have Boise here, 1023 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: even after there's slow start in surviving a shootout against 1024 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: San Jose State. Just a tough place to win. A 1025 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: telemarketer from Wichita, Kansas is calling me right now. Otherwise, Ty, 1026 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: I have Duquine, Bob Morris fighting Bobbies both four and 1027 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: o in the Northeastern Conference, Kennesaw State, the Owls against 1028 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: the Campbell Camels, ow Wools, ow Wwolves, Big Big South matchup, 1029 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: New Hampshire four and one in the Colonial against James 1030 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: Madison five and oh in the Colonial the Underrated not underrated, 1031 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 1: but I have ignored this logo for far too long, 1032 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: and they also happen to be good. But the the 1033 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: Ut Martin Skyhawks. Have you ever seen the Skyhawk logo? 1034 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 1: It's amazing, It's an eagle, but the eagle has like 1035 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: those aviator goggles resting on its head with the cool 1036 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: wing situation on either side. Great logo they're taking on 1037 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: Austin p They're four and one in the Ohio Valley 1038 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:45,240 Speaker 1: ut Martin five and one and now tie your week eleven, Yes, 1039 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: headliner forget LSU Alabama Yankee Stadium tie. You know this 1040 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: game is in Yankee Stadium, right, I know. I know 1041 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: Princeton at seven and oh, Dartmouth at seven and oh, 1042 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: and there is a line. I did find a site 1043 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: five dimes. I believe FCS lines the mouthis. 1044 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,280 Speaker 3: Oh. 1045 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: I regret that weird, We'd already regret it. Three and 1046 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: a half point favorites in what I'm calling because Dartmouth 1047 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: is a New Hampshire and Princeton is in New Jersey, 1048 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm calling it the Uper Bowl. I work shot that 1049 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: name a little clunky. I work shop. First of all, 1050 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: it's brilliant, and I spent more time on that on 1051 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: any game preview fair. I'm gonna take there's something in 1052 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 1: the air in Dartmouth. There is something in the air, 1053 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: and they win on a hail Mary last week. I 1054 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 1: love Princeton. I love that offense. But the Dartmouth defense 1055 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: allowing ten a game. Give me the mouth these. I 1056 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: stand by it. Let's go mouth these. I'll do it 1057 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: double mouth. Ye a, God, regret that even more. On 1058 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:50,439 Speaker 1: that note, please drop that pulsating pounding, pure bliss, big 1059 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,319 Speaker 1: stanky drum. Five. 1060 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 3: All right, we got three games on the docket here, 1061 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 3: starting lines for these, by the way, Oh okay, starting 1062 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 3: at High New Go ahead, you read them off then. 1063 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: All right? Holy Cross the Crossaders at three and h 1064 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: in the Pat League, favored by nearly two touchdowns, thirteen 1065 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: points over the Eddies of Lafayette at noon. 1066 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 4: I go Yettes, I go big, John Burke. You know 1067 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 4: where I stand. 1068 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: As well, the true big noon Saturday game. Lee High 1069 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: at three and one at Bucknell one and two in 1070 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 1: the Pat League. But it looks I think Lehigh's is 1071 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: the Lee High. They're given four. 1072 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go Lee High minus the points. I 1073 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 3: don't usually like to take the road spot here, but 1074 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 3: Lee High has been playing pretty well last couple of weeks, 1075 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,399 Speaker 3: So let's go Tyler. Monica had a big week last week. 1076 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 3: Let's go Mountain Hawks. 1077 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna go Mountain Hawks. Engineers, whatever, you gotta 1078 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 1: call him Fordham one and two at Colgate one three Colgate. 1079 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 4: I think it's one two in a row. Mm hmmm, 1080 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 4: two in a row since. 1081 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 1: Not winning any at all for a good chunk of 1082 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,839 Speaker 1: the season. Well, they're one in three in the pat League, 1083 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: so one. 1084 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:57,959 Speaker 4: And three in the pat League. 1085 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 3: But I think I think two wins overall, and I 1086 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 3: could be wrong about that. Okay, I'm gonna go Colgate 1087 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,479 Speaker 3: here to shock the world at home. 1088 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 1: The Bronx is the center of the college football universe, 1089 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 1: obviously with Yankee Stadium hosting the Nuper Bowl. And I 1090 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: don't know if you noticed I did put a Nuper 1091 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,240 Speaker 1: Bowl sound You know I did not see the sound files. 1092 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: It's okay, we can we can play it another week 1093 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,279 Speaker 1: or play it in the recap. There's something, there's something 1094 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 1: about the Bronx. I'm gonna take Fordham here. I'm gonna 1095 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: take the for the Fordham Rams. And by the way, 1096 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: if you are going to the Nuper Bowl, La Morada 1097 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: for Mexican food. La Morada m O r A d 1098 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: a La Morada really good. Wa Hawkan food Wahawcken Wahaka 1099 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: is an area. It's a state in Mexico. It's a 1100 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 1: very specific style if you like Molais, like we've talked about, 1101 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: No I do any ingredients, sure, yeah, okay Claudas oh man, 1102 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: I wish that in an old blue Apron spot you 1103 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: had to read off that you could make Claudas t 1104 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: l a I udat. 1105 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:03,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1106 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: So I'm going in that direction also, Ty, before we stop, 1107 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: Before we hit stop on the show, I'm actually going 1108 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,479 Speaker 1: on The Lead, which is a terrific show that Wondery does. 1109 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: It's a daily sports show. They partnered with the Athletic, 1110 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 1: interviewing different writers based on the story of the day. 1111 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: So if it's a big it's a big day for 1112 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: the Lakers, they talk to the whoever's covering the Lakers 1113 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: for the Athletic. If it's a big day for the 1114 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos for whatever reason, they talk to the person 1115 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: covering the Broncos. And so I'm going on the show 1116 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,959 Speaker 1: to talk about LSU Alabama. So I figured let's let's 1117 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 1: get to know the Lead a little bit more before 1118 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: we go, since they do a terrific job doing a 1119 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 1: daily sports show. Up stuff every morning of the week 1120 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: for your commute. Have a listen, and now before we 1121 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: go on very excited to take a take a nice look, 1122 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: take a dip into the pool of our friends at 1123 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: another Wondery show, and it's Kavitha Davidson and Alters. I said, 1124 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,520 Speaker 1: Alters Honders kelto because what I did was I combined 1125 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: your names. But they host the Lead for both Wondery 1126 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: and The Athletic, and if you have not listened to 1127 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: the lead, First of all, shame on you. You are 1128 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: doing a poor job with your digital audio consumption. Second 1129 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: of all, as you probably know, they do a daily 1130 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: sports show with The Athletic and Wondery, So every morning 1131 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,959 Speaker 1: you wake up, you get on your way to work 1132 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: and boom, there is an episode of the Lead. They're 1133 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 1: talking about the biggest sports stories and talking to experts 1134 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: at the Athletic. Not that they're not smart, but how 1135 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: can you know about everything in every single sport? You 1136 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: might as well lean on the experts. So whether it's 1137 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: the Lakers, the Broncos, or Florida State or maybe the 1138 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: Minnesota Wild, I don't know. I don't know, and I 1139 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: would like to know. So Kavitha Onders, thank you for 1140 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: joining me. 1141 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having us. 1142 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: Dan, what an intro. Oh my gosh, I've been working 1143 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 1: on that all day, so I think I did the 1144 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: concept justice. And part of the reason that I'm having 1145 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: you on besides that I'm just fans of the show, 1146 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: is also I'm appearing on the show to talk about 1147 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: LSU Alabama, so I figured we'd make this official. Go 1148 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: both ways. Tell me about how the lead works, how 1149 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 1: it operates. 1150 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 5: Well, it is as a heavy lift, but it's a 1151 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 5: lot of fun and essentially we just dive into the 1152 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 5: sort of the biggest and the most fascinating sports stories 1153 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 5: of the day, and like you mentioned, we're hitting all 1154 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 5: sports and all kinds of stories. We tend to do 1155 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 5: a lot of profiles of really interesting athletes or people 1156 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 5: of note in the world of sports, but we're really 1157 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 5: just kind of curious about what's happening out there and 1158 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 5: trying to find surprising and compelling stories and then to 1159 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 5: find the best people and the best sports reporters to 1160 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 5: help us tell them. 1161 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that that's you know, if you 1162 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 2: follow what we do over at the Athletic, you know, 1163 00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 2: and I came over to the podcast from being a 1164 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 2: sports business reporter for the Athletic. You know, we've got 1165 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 2: so many reporters who have just been covering these teams 1166 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 2: for years, who are on the ground there, and you know, 1167 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 2: if something happens in New Orleans, we've got like four 1168 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 2: people that we can call on in New Orleans to 1169 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 2: come on and talk about that. And that's that's really 1170 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 2: cool to us. 1171 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: So it actually does bring up a question, how do 1172 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 1: you I know you're leaning on the experts, but you 1173 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 1: have to be able to ask smart questions. You have 1174 01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: to no context to bring information out of these experts 1175 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: in various cities. How are you able to download content 1176 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,160 Speaker 1: like I have to know about dozens, if not like 1177 01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 1: over one hundred college football teams, and that's already a 1178 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: heavy lift. How do you jump across sports to fully 1179 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: understand context to bring good information out of your interviewees. 1180 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,960 Speaker 5: Well, I'll answer that because the answer often is Kavitha. 1181 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 5: She is an encyclopedia of sports information, and we do 1182 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 5: lean on her quite a bit. But you know, it's 1183 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 5: also very much a team effort. We've got a team 1184 01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 5: of producers who are amazing researchers who create prep sheets 1185 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 5: and outlines for us and prep us for interviews and 1186 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 5: talk through story ideas with us, and you know, research 1187 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 5: is a big part of what we do. 1188 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just gonna jump in and say and 1189 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Ondrews, thank you. You know, like I've 1190 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 2: covered sports for six years now, and I'm a generalist, right, 1191 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 2: Like I've covered all sports, so I have a pretty 1192 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,720 Speaker 2: good baseline knowledge of, you know, anything that we could 1193 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 2: talk about, but you know, without going as deep as 1194 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 2: these experts go. You know, that's kind that kind of 1195 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 2: sets the foundation for you know, when we do these 1196 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 2: deep dives, and that also kind of helps for us 1197 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 2: that you know, we do have this incredible staff of 1198 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 2: people who not all of them are sports fans, so 1199 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,640 Speaker 2: they can kind of filter out, you know, the stuff 1200 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,520 Speaker 2: when I get way too much into my heads and 1201 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, you remember when this happened in nineteen 1202 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 2: eighty seven. Nobody else remembers that. I don't either because 1203 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 2: I wasn't born. 1204 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 5: And I would also just add real quickly that you know, 1205 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 5: we are both we both love sports. We're both very 1206 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 5: curious about sports, but we try to get out of 1207 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 5: the way of the story as much as possible. Like 1208 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,920 Speaker 5: the show isn't about us, it's about the storytellers that 1209 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 5: we bring on and it's about the stories themselves. So 1210 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 5: we're not out there to try and impress anyone or 1211 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 5: like validate ourselves with how much we know about sports. 1212 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 5: We're just there to try and help tell these really 1213 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 5: powerful stories. 1214 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Oh we have completely different ideologies then, because I love 1215 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: no one myself and taking some credit for everything I know, Well, 1216 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: maybe we do a little core of my being. Yeah. 1217 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 1: My final question is, and I know, Kavitha, this is 1218 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,760 Speaker 1: probably more appropriate to you. I think you're a bigger 1219 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 1: college football fan, but do you have strong LSU Alabama thoughts? 1220 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,959 Speaker 1: You know going into the game? Is there a part 1221 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: of the narrative, the storyline of the game that you're 1222 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: particularly interested? Do you have a pick? Do you have 1223 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: a hot take? How are you landing with this matchup 1224 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: of the century? 1225 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think that we've bandied about 1226 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 2: the idea of the game of the century and how 1227 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 2: many times we have had the game of the century 1228 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 2: in the last tenth of a century. It's the best 1229 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see. First of all, is too a 1230 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 2: playing do we have Do we have that confirmation. 1231 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: He is supposed to play? He is going He had 1232 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: a little procedure done the tightrope procedure on his ankle 1233 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: and supposedly will play what percentage of fully healthy tou h, 1234 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,360 Speaker 1: he'll be nobody knows which. 1235 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 5: By the way, have you guys watched online videos of 1236 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 5: the tightrope procedure? 1237 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: No, I don't. 1238 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 5: I don't know if I want to recommend that you 1239 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,439 Speaker 5: do it or not, but you will not be able 1240 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,080 Speaker 5: to unsee it or unfeel it. 1241 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Do you guys have a pick? Do you have any 1242 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 1: strong thoughts? 1243 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be LSU's year, man. I mean, 1244 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 5: they've lost, they've lost for eight straight years. They finally 1245 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 5: have the team that they've been working towards for a 1246 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 5: number of seasons. Now they've got the quarterback that they 1247 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 5: need to finally break the Nick Saban curse. And even 1248 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 5: though they're on the road, I don't know, I just 1249 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 5: think this is their year. 1250 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Didn't we do the calculation at some point in preparing 1251 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 2: for your the two of your episode that we're running 1252 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 2: that like, Nick Saban in the course of this rivalry 1253 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 2: is like fourteen and four which team he's coaching? 1254 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 5: That's right? Yeah, Yeah, you'd be silly to bet against 1255 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 5: Nick Saban if you go by the odds, but I'm 1256 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 5: going to go against the odds. 1257 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: Nick Saban and Math get along quite well. That is 1258 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 1: the lesson near All right, Kavifa Anders, thank you very 1259 01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 1: much for your time and again anywhere where podcasts can 1260 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: be downloaded and subscribed to do that. For the lead 1261 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: from Wondery and the Athletic. Thanks again, you guys, thank you, 1262 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 1: thanks so much. 1263 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 3: Dan all right, Dan Cool, I like it. Thank you, 1264 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 3: good stuff. Check out the lead another great Wondery show. 1265 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 3: We're happy to be part of the Wondery family and 1266 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 3: happy to have the lead in our feed every morning. 1267 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Good stuff. Yeah, it's I mean, I love a good 1268 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 1: podcast as service. We're just like, oh, it's always up 1269 01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 1: there for my commute. I love having that. It's part 1270 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: of the reason we do the Twoes crews up at 1271 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 1: Tuesday six am Eastern and every you know Thursday six 1272 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: am Eastern previews. So really like podcasting as a utility 1273 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: for your commute. So all in favor for sure. 1274 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 3: Well, don't forget to check that out, and don't forget 1275 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 3: to check out our week eleven recap show that'll be 1276 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 3: up on Sunday afternoon. After all the action As you 1277 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 3: are watching week eleven on this scan tron Saturday. 1278 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 1: You're okay with this? I like it? I like it? Okay, yeah, 1279 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 1: four oh eight verbal one. 1280 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 3: That's four eight eight three seven two two five one. 1281 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,479 Speaker 3: That's the reverb line. You can also record your own 1282 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 3: voice on your own phone and send it via your 1283 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 3: own email to the reverb line at gmail dot com. 1284 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 3: We're still piloting our little voice memo system with a 1285 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 3: lot of fun last week, hoping to get more concise messages. 1286 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 1: We have a signal line. Is that a thing do 1287 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: we have? Is there a soliverbal signal for encrypted privacy? 1288 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: Like if you want to be like I just have 1289 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 1: a super huge cround. 1290 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 3: I mean, if people have any scoops that they want 1291 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 3: to send us, Oh okay, we can start a signal. 1292 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,160 Speaker 1: No, I was saying, a signal for people just to 1293 01:05:55,240 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: share their secrets, but in an untraceable way. I mean we, 1294 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 1: oh god, we can do that. I don't just like 1295 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: a Late March show, we reveal verbaler's secrets. 1296 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 3: All right, I'll do it. I just learned that signal 1297 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 3: existed pretty recently. I will start a signal account for us. Yes, 1298 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 3: this is gonna get weird. 1299 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't know why we'll use it, but we'll use it. 1300 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 4: We'll figure something out. 1301 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Sure, why not? 1302 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,840 Speaker 3: All right, I'll do it. I'll do it as soon 1303 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,480 Speaker 3: as we get off here. Done for that guy there, 1304 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 3: my good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself Tied Hill the brand. 1305 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for downloading the show. We will 1306 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 3: catch you all in a few days. 1307 01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 5: Peace,