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Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life,

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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,

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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.

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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after

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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full

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Speaker 1: episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig

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Speaker 1: into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are talking

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Speaker 1: about this week's subject of the Disgrace Sland full episode,

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Speaker 1: Lana del Rey. We're also talking about rock critics and

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Speaker 1: female artists call a rock from the nineteen eighties, and

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Speaker 1: of course we're diving into your voicemails, texts and more,

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Speaker 1: and as always, a whole lot of rosie. All right, Discos,

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Speaker 1: let's get into it. I made it through the wilderness, somehow,

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Speaker 1: I made it through. Didn't know how lost I was

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Speaker 1: until I found you. I was beat incomplete, I've been had.

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Speaker 1: I was sad and blue, but you made me feel Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you made me feel shiny and new, like a virgin.

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Speaker 1: When I'm watching my TV and a man comes on

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Speaker 1: and tells me how white my shirts can be, but

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Speaker 1: he can't be a man because he doesn't smoke the

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Speaker 1: same cigarettes as me. I can't get no oh no, no, no, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's what I say. I can't get no satisfaction. Those are,

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Speaker 1: of course, the lyrics to Madonna's Like a Virgin and

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Speaker 1: released on November twelfth, nineteen eighty four, and the Rolling

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Speaker 1: Stones I Can't Get No Satisfaction, released nineteen years earlier

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Speaker 1: that point, and the press were mostly concerned not with

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Speaker 1: The Stones' music, which in nineteen eighty four was mostly

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Speaker 1: spectacularly bad, with very few exceptions. Critics were more concerned

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Speaker 1: at the time with the bickering between Mick Jagger and

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Speaker 1: to her self titled album from the year prior, an

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Speaker 1: album that sold five million copies Like a Virgin would

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Speaker 1: go on to double that and then some It was

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Speaker 1: a smash right out of the gate. But back to

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Speaker 1: the lyrics of like a Virgin and satisfaction touched for

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Speaker 1: the very first time, Like a Virgin, when your heart

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Speaker 1: beats next to mine, and I'm trying to make some

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Speaker 1: face value, those two sets of lyrics, if you're objectifying

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Speaker 1: them completely, if you're separating them from their musical accompaniment,

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Speaker 1: from the cultural significance, from their historical context, from everything,

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Speaker 1: if you're just looking at the words, if you're just

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Speaker 1: considering the poetry of those words, if you're just looking

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Speaker 1: from one another. Sure, we can't really do that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we have all that context and knowledge to fuck up

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Speaker 1: this experiment. But imagine for a minute that you're an

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Speaker 1: all that differently. It's just pop music. One lyric talks

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Speaker 1: They're risque, but they're kind of tongue in cheek at

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Speaker 1: the same time. Okay, they're knowing they're immature pop music.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say it. Yet. Madonna's

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Speaker 1: album's male producer, Now Rogers of Chic. Not that he

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Speaker 1: the Go Goos wrote and recorded some of the greatest

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Speaker 1: They're pretty good band for a bunch of chicks, you know.

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Speaker 1: Poison Ivy of the Cramps. Okay, she should. Guitar players

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Speaker 1: Joe Strummer wasn't a great singer, Okay. Madonna like Joe Strummer,

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Speaker 1: like the Go Gos, like Poison Ivy, like Meg White,

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Speaker 1: I don't like railing at music critics. They're easy targets,

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Speaker 1: already lost the war. The issue of why music critics

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Speaker 1: is today's topic, one that we're going to get into

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Speaker 1: But I want to talk briefly about next week's episode. Okay,

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Speaker 1: next week. It's it's a special week, guys. Okay, My

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Speaker 1: I mean my whole family, right, my mom and dad,

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Speaker 1: And if you're like us, if you're an American family,

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Speaker 1: now in anticipation of next week. It is a big week.

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Speaker 1: It is the start of the twenty twenty four to

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Speaker 1: this episode, even though, like I said, there are no musicians,

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Speaker 1: this episode, but regardless, this episode is dark, twisted and

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Speaker 1: away to learn about the criminality advice that the NFL

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Speaker 1: It's all happening. We're all settling into the fall, as

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Speaker 1: And as you're listening, I want to try to think

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Speaker 1: this this list, like I said, it is long and fascinating,

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Speaker 1: little AI produced videos there, nostalgia pieces, and they're they're

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Speaker 1: just fantastic. They really drop you right in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the nineteen ninety so if you want your gen

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Speaker 1: X fix, seek those out. Seven one six texts in Hey,

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Speaker 1: just getting to the Hillsboro episode. Goosebumps and tears while

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Speaker 1: you read all the names and ages. Great decision making

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Speaker 1: with that choice, seven one six. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: I can't take credit for it. That wasn't my idea,

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Speaker 1: that said. I don't know whose idea it was. I

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Speaker 1: just know that it wasn't mine. But it was. It

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Speaker 1: was pretty effective in the production and that episode really

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Speaker 1: hit home for a lot of people. I appreciate that text.

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Speaker 1: You guys want to know what I'm talking about. It's

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Speaker 1: the Hillsboro episode on the Hillsborough disaster European football, European

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Speaker 1: soccer disaster that happened quite some time ago, a couple

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Speaker 1: feed and it's got an incredible reaction, and yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like hearing it. All Right, let's check out this voicemail

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Speaker 1: from Chad way up in British Columbia. Hey, Jake, it

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Speaker 1: is Chad calling from Yarrow, British Columbia. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you've given any thought to doing an episode on Randy.

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Speaker 2: Blich or just Straceland leaves here from Lamb of God,

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Speaker 2: but I just listened to a podcast that's kind of

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Speaker 2: It's an.

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Speaker 1: Interview that goes through like you.

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Speaker 2: Know, this whole life, childhood, the origins is Lamb of

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Speaker 2: God and his origins.

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Speaker 1: And the you know, actually a huge punk rock fan.

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Speaker 2: I think one of his favorite fans Rains, which I

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Speaker 2: think there's an episode in there too, but maybe on

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Speaker 2: like a different.

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Speaker 1: Level to Straceland be underground or something, but the story

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Speaker 1: of Randy.

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Speaker 2: Blay is pretty crazy how he ends up being pancrafts

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Speaker 2: prison in the Czech Republic and bog two.

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Speaker 1: Years after somebody died taken a header.

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Speaker 2: Off the stage one of the shows.

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Speaker 1: It would probably be a really good episode.

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Speaker 2: Cool and I just saw them live and holy shit,

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Speaker 2: probably one of the best metal bands live I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: So okay, take care, Okay, Chad, Lamb of God. Here's

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Speaker 1: the deal. I want to do this episode of Lamb

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Speaker 1: of God. People have been suggesting this from the beginning

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Speaker 1: of Disgraceland, but I got to tell you some of

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Speaker 1: it is a supreme bum out and I don't really

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Speaker 1: know how to treat this episode, but I am going

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Speaker 1: to do it at some time. You mentioned the Bad Brains.

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Speaker 1: I would love to do a Bad Brains episode as well.

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Speaker 1: I just showed my son, my oldest son, the Bad

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Speaker 1: Brains the CBGB set from I Believe It's New Year's

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. His mind was completely blown. I fucked

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Speaker 1: up though I showed him Bad Brains before I showed

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Speaker 1: him Nirvana. You know I should have eased into Bad Brains.

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Speaker 1: Shows you how much I think about this stuff. I don't.

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Speaker 1: It was on a whim okay, popped up on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: There it was. I hit play. All right, don't blame

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Speaker 1: me six one seven nine oh six six six three

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Speaker 1: eight if you won't blame me for anything else, So

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Speaker 1: leave me a voicemail, send me a text. Also, I

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Speaker 1: can be reached, as you know, at disgracelam pod on

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Speaker 1: the socials and you can also email me Disgrace lampod

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. I'll be back in just a flash.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to read some emails from you guys. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: we are back to Gracelandpod at gmail dot com. You

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Speaker 1: want to send me an email, You guys like the

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Speaker 1: long form, you like to type, you like to get

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Speaker 1: the letters going, the old school letter writing. I'm here

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Speaker 1: for just gracelandpod at gmail dot com. This one comes

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Speaker 1: from Miles Fisher subject John Coltrane message. Hey man, absolutely

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Speaker 1: love you show, but I must know when is the

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Speaker 1: John Coltrade episode episodes coming? I know it will be killing. Also,

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Speaker 1: a felonious Monk episode would be great. That was definitely

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Speaker 1: a disgrace dying in a mental hospital and all. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for your show, hey, Miles Fisher, Thank you. Here's my

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Speaker 1: thoughts on John Coltrane. Of all the music I listened

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Speaker 1: to in the course of my life, I have probably

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Speaker 1: listened to more John Coltrane than any other artist. I

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Speaker 1: listened to him, I believe daily still and have. Every

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Speaker 1: time I get a Spotify wrapped, it's John Coltrane at

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Speaker 1: the top of the list. But here's the thing. I

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Speaker 1: know very little about John Cole and I think I

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Speaker 1: do this on purpose to protect myself. I think I

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Speaker 1: don't want to know. I think I like the mystery.

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Speaker 1: I think I like that I have nothing to really

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Speaker 1: go on besides the records that I have, even though

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Speaker 1: I listen to them on Spotify, I still just listen

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Speaker 1: to the records that I have, the vinylague that will

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Speaker 1: be Blue Train, Giant Steps, Ballads, Love Supreme, the record

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Speaker 1: he did with Monk. Trying to think of what else

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Speaker 1: I have by Coltrain. I think that's about it. I

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Speaker 1: know more about Miles Davis because we did a Miles

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Speaker 1: Davis episode. We did two episodes on Miles Davis. There

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Speaker 1: are two of my favorite episodes. By the way, those

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Speaker 1: are available for you in the archive. Miles if you

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Speaker 1: want to check those out. Also got an episode on

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Speaker 1: Billie Holliday, who else from the jazz world? A couple

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Speaker 1: others that are escaping me right now. But Miles, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know if Thelni's Monk died in a mental hospital.

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Speaker 1: That is some sad shit. So maybe I'll do a

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Speaker 1: monk episode first, and maybe someday I will be inspired

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Speaker 1: to break the seal and do a cold train episode.

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Speaker 1: But I like the mystery. I don't want to give up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, This email Mike Nutt. That's his name, Mike Nutt,

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Speaker 1: subject possible episode. Hey message, love your podcast, huge fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm a slightly new listener within the last year. I've

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Speaker 1: listened to a lot. I love them all. I love music,

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Speaker 1: I love singing. I have no professional background besides some

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Speaker 1: distant family that was in the opera. However, I feel

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Speaker 1: I have great instincts when it comes to music and voices,

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Speaker 1: and I can feel it in my soul. So there

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Speaker 1: are many recommendations in my mind. However, this is a

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Speaker 1: triple threat that could turn into a three part series.

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Speaker 1: It ties into three episodes, starting with the group Guy Look.

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Speaker 1: They were brief but awesome. They started the New Jack

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Speaker 1: Swing sound in the late nineteen eighties. These guys are

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Speaker 1: responsible for some of the greatest artists and albums of

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Speaker 1: the eighties and the nineties, at the likes of Michael

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Speaker 1: and Janet. There is so much more to say, but

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Speaker 1: you will find out Number two bouncing off of that

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Speaker 1: New Edition who Guy competed with got into a fight

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Speaker 1: with at a concert, but was also influenced by guys

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Speaker 1: New Jack Swing sound? So much more there with Bobby

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Speaker 1: Brown and how the band got screwed over by multiple

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Speaker 1: labels and three boys to men whose name came from

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Speaker 1: New Edition. The crazy stories of them are too with

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Speaker 1: a bad member leaving and they're still continuing their legacy.

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Speaker 1: Would love to hear your feedback on these Have a

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Speaker 1: great day. How have I never heard of Guy g

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Speaker 1: u Y? How have I never heard of Guy being

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Speaker 1: at the start at the the the atoms splitting at

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Speaker 1: the big bang of New Jack Swing? How do I

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Speaker 1: not I've never heard this name before? That's why I

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Speaker 1: love you guys. You're turning me on to stuff. You

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Speaker 1: were keeping me curious when it comes to music, and

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Speaker 1: that is not easy to do. You probably know this,

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Speaker 1: Maybe you don't, Mike Nutt, but You probably know that

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Speaker 1: we did a Bobby Brown episode this year, came out

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Speaker 1: a couple episodes ago. That's in the archive. You can

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Speaker 1: check that out. In the meantime, I will consider this.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna check out Guy. You know, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: have a listen to Guy first tonight when I'm picking

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Speaker 1: up cleaning my room, you know, getting ready to go

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Speaker 1: to bed. I clean before I go to bed. How

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Speaker 1: does that make any sense? I should clean earlier, right,

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna put Guy on. And if it's you know,

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Speaker 1: if I'm into it, if I'm compelled, I'll get back

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Speaker 1: to you. Get back to me disgrace and pod at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Just like Jamie Griffiths, I want to

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Speaker 1: do one more email here, trying to be better about

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Speaker 1: these emails. Jamie Griffiths rites in uh suggestions. Hank Williams three,

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Speaker 1: Queens of the Stone Age, the Bronx, Jesse Dayton, Mark Lanagan,

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Speaker 1: Tom Waits, Lemmy and Mike Ness. Okay, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go in order here. Hank Williams three. I love this.

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Speaker 1: I love this. I love this, and I should do

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Speaker 1: Hank Williams two because I've already done Hank Williams one.

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Speaker 1: I should do Hank Wiams two. Then I should do

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Speaker 1: Hank Williams three. Queens of the Stone Age. Uh, that

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Speaker 1: Nick era. I don't know what's there, but for your

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Speaker 1: own entertainment here, Jamie, you know Josh from Queens of

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Speaker 1: the Stone Age. He's plays a pretty significant role in

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Speaker 1: our Anthony Bourdain episode. I invite you to check that out.

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Speaker 1: The Bronx. What are we talking about with the Bronx?

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Speaker 1: What crimes are they? Are there any there at all?

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Speaker 1: Jesse Dayton, same question. I knew Jesse back in the day,

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Speaker 1: played with him before. Mark Lanagan, totally hear you there,

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Speaker 1: Tom Waits, that would be fantastic, don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's there for crime, but I know there is some

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Speaker 1: wild living and just sonically, I know we could do

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Speaker 1: something really cool with it.

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Speaker 2: Let me.

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Speaker 1: We just released an all access episode of Motorhead, so

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Speaker 1: if you're a Patreon or Apple podcast subscriber you can

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Speaker 1: hear that. Lemmy episode and Mike Ness Yeah love Social Distortion.

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Speaker 1: That's a band I don't listen to enough band. I

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Speaker 1: really like that. I don't listen to enough. I will.

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Speaker 1: I will look into all of these that you've mentioned here,

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Speaker 1: except the ones that I don't want to look into,

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Speaker 1: and those being the more recent ones Queens of the

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Speaker 1: Stone Age in particular, and Jesse Dayton and let's get

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Speaker 1: back to me, Jamie, get back to me. Let me

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Speaker 1: know if there's something I'm missing with those guys.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the emails. Keep them coming disgracing pod at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That's one way you can support the

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Speaker 1: shows by just you know, keep keeping me going man,

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Speaker 1: sending me some info, just like Jamie here, just like

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Speaker 1: Mike Nutt, just like Miles Fitcher. I love I love,

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Speaker 1: love love the back and forth. I love the input

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Speaker 1: from you guys. I love the engagement. Another way you

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Speaker 1: guys can support the show is you can leave a review.

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Speaker 1: It's that easy Apple Podcasts. Just hit it up. Just

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Speaker 1: go to Disgraceland, leave a review for us, just like

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Speaker 1: Buddy Underscore five five five dollars sign very well done,

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Speaker 1: Buddy says, I happened upon this podcast some time ago.

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Speaker 1: I think it's been several months since I heard it

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Speaker 1: for the first time. Bobby Brown. That's the episode I heard,

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Speaker 1: and I've been listening since. It's well researched and presented.

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Speaker 1: It's like an edgy version of Inside the Actors Studio.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that review. Buddy Underscore five

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Speaker 1: five five dollars sign Buddy. Hit us up. Disgrace Lampod

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. We're at Disgrace Lampod on the socials.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you a T shirt. Guys. That's that's

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Speaker 1: how I support you for supporting us. By leaving a review,

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Speaker 1: you get some free merch whatever we get lying around

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Speaker 1: your T shirts, posters, stickers, pins, if I read your

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Speaker 1: name out here, if I call out your review, you

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Speaker 1: some free merch. Hit us up, like I said. On

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, leave a review there or on Spotify. Sarah

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Speaker 1: Jake is awesome, gen X is rock and nineties most

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Speaker 1: definitely we're the best era for all things entertainment. I too,

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Speaker 1: don't feel my age until my twelve year old starts

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Speaker 1: talking his lingo to me. How about an episode on

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Speaker 1: The Lost Boys or The Two Coreys, thanks for getting

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Speaker 1: me through my boring workdays, Sarah Hunter, you got it.

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Speaker 1: The Lost Boys that's interesting, but the two Corey's is

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Speaker 1: episode Corey Haym and Corey Felman. Sarah. Thanks, guys. Sarah.

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Speaker 1: Get in touch, by the way, Disgrace at Disgrace Lampod

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Speaker 1: out to you, Sarah. Guys, appreciate all the support. All

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Speaker 1: the engagement means a lot. All Right, this episode, Guys,

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Speaker 1: some more sort of replacements conversation here. We just released

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Speaker 1: our Replacements All Access episode and the All Access feed. Guys,

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Speaker 1: and if you're a Patreon subscriber, I'm in the chat

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Speaker 1: chopping it up. The whole community in there. It's a

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Speaker 2: The flash, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, welcome back. I'm about to get out of here.

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Speaker 1: But before I do, before next week's episode on the

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Speaker 1: NFL's Criminal Origins, there will be a rewind episode from

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Speaker 1: our archive popping up in your feeds, and guys, before that,

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Speaker 1: have you heard the news I think you have. Oasis

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Speaker 1: is getting back together. Tickets are about to go on

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Speaker 1: sale for the UK shows? Who is going? Are they

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Speaker 1: going to be US shows? Announced? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I'm on the fence. Part of me really really really

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Speaker 1: wants to see them across the pond, but then another

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Speaker 1: part of me doesn't want to duel out the cash,

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Speaker 1: wants to wait for the US dates. But can we

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Speaker 1: be sure that they are even going to be US states?

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Speaker 1: What do you know? Do you guys know stuff? Do

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Speaker 1: you know things that I don't know? Let me know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: of course my kids want to go now as well

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Speaker 1: my wife obviously, So this is likely going to be

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Speaker 1: a family affair UK listeners, which city do I want

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Speaker 1: to go see Oasis in? All right? I'm okay with

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Speaker 1: not doing London. I've done London a bunch been there enough.

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Speaker 1: Let me know at disgrace slam Pods six seven nine

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Speaker 1: the oasis? If we go at all? Or do we

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Speaker 1: wait for us dates to be announced? Anyways, rewind episode

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Speaker 1: coming your way next to the feed and you can

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Speaker 1: guess which band from the archive this is going to

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Speaker 1: be on. I know you can. So speaking of archives

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Speaker 1: we mentioned, we mentioned a lot Bobby Brown, a bunch

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Speaker 1: of others from the archive. We also mentioned the Rolling

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Speaker 1: Stones in this episode. We have a ton of Stones apps.

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Speaker 1: But if we're talking I can't get no satisfaction rolling

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Speaker 1: Stones and we were talking about the Rolling Stones. Part

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Speaker 1: one episode of Disgraceland released on June twenty third, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: That's episode number sixty and that episode deals with the

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Speaker 1: Stones in Swinging London, bona fide prison break in some

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Speaker 1: East End Gangster's. Part two is episode sixty one. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: that was released on June thirtieth. That one gets into

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Speaker 1: the first big bust I don't know if it wasn't

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Speaker 1: the first bus, but it gets into the big red

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Speaker 1: Lands bus that the Rolling Stones were part of. And

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Speaker 1: Princess Margaret is in this episode. This is Jewel Heist,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. Love these episodes. I hope you

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Speaker 1: revisit them. We also talked about the Hank Williams episode

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Speaker 1: that's in the archive as well. Who else we talked

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Speaker 1: about Madonna, Amy Winehouse. We highlighted those archive episodes recently,

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Speaker 1: so not going to give them the info here. You

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Speaker 1: guys know where to find them. Just know they're in

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Speaker 1: the archive if you want them. We talk college rock

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Speaker 1: and alternative music in the all access portion of this

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Speaker 1: episode here, and of course genres didn't unfold the way

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Speaker 1: that they did, we likely wouldn't have had Nirvana, And

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Speaker 1: we of course covered Nirvana in episodes twenty five and

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Speaker 1: twenty six back in March of twenty nineteen, so give

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Speaker 1: those episodes a listen if you have not already. All Right,

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Speaker 1: that brings us to nearly an end, folks, So let's recap,

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Speaker 1: shall we? Number one right now in your feed? A

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Speaker 1: brand new episode on Lana del Rey. Number two coming tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: A special rewind episode from our archive, and we were

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Speaker 1: talking about the gangster origins of the NFL in next

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Speaker 1: week's episode. So I want to know from you guys,

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Speaker 1: who is the most disgraceful athlete of all time? And

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Speaker 1: why what do they do? Let me know? Number three

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Speaker 1: merch Winners, get in touch. You know who you are.

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Speaker 1: Number four. Remember no one cares about great storytelling more

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Speaker 1: than you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right.

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Speaker 1: In honor of the subject of our most recent episode,

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Speaker 1: Lana del Rey, celebrating a birthday recently, we give to

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Speaker 1: you me reading you the Billboard charts and the day

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Speaker 1: Lana del Rey was born on June twenty first, nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty five. Number one Heaven Brian Adams, last week two

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Speaker 1: two weeks on chart seven, number three. Everybody Wants to

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Speaker 1: Prince in the Revolution last week's eleven weeks peak positions

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Speaker 1: full position weeks on Shirlin last Quit talking and start

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Speaker 1: mixing