1 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, June fifth, twenty twenty four. Welcome to 2 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Fish Unfiltered. My name is Isazaca Zute, joined as always 3 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: by mister Kevin Barrall and Eli Sussman. We've got a 4 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: very special guest for you guys today, the reigning National 5 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: League Manager of the Year, Marlon Skipper Skip Schumacher. Skip, 6 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: So thanks so much for taking the time, Mat. 7 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: How's it going doing well, guys, Thanks for having me 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: on again. 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Of course, Well before we get into it, Skip, you 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: guys were just on the West Coast, went to Arizona, 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: then to southern California, so I imagine you're able to 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: see some family catch up with the off Springs. 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: How were they all doing the off Springs? 14 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good, everyone's doing great. 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, it was good to be back on the West Coast. 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: My son won MVP the Trinity League, so that was 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: really cool. Got to celebrate that with him. Trinity League 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: is really stacked high school league. They had, you know, 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: the first or the last sophomore to win MVP there 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: was Royce Lewis and then the one before that was 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: Austin Hedges, so it's a really good division. So super 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: proud of him. And then saw my daughter play soccer. 23 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: She's travel soccer, so always great to see her play 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: and do her thing. And then you know, be a 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: dad and husband is what I'm most proud of. So 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: always good to reconnect out there. 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: All right, that's awesome. I'm curious skip just you know, 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: as a major league manager with the family part of it, 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: whether the team is you know, going through a rough 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: stretch or they're winning a lot of games, do they 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: treat you any differently? Do they walk on eggshells maybe 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: if the team is maybe not doing so well on 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: a five and losing streak or something like that. 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: My kids, the wife, kids, anyone in the found. No. 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: You know, I've been lucky to be here for go. 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: This is my twenty twenty third season, eighteenth professionally, so 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: they kind of know the life, the ups and downs, 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: the HIGs and lows. And you know, I don't same 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: thing as a manager. I do it as a as 40 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: a parent when they play games, and you know, I 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: don't stress over one win, one loss, five wins, five 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: five losses. 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm kind of even keeled and. 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: Just you know, try to try to be the same 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: person every single day, you know, especially to them. The 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: last thing you want to do is take the game 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: home with you. I never want to do that to 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: them as a player and as a manager. It's my job, 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: but it's you know, they mean more to me than 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: than a win or loss. 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: We appreciate your time skip coming on here. Just on Tuesday, 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: the Marlins designate Avi Garcia for assignment. He was, of 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: course around the team last year. Entering this year, he 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: had a pretty clear role coming into the season. He 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 4: was starting against lefty pitching, playing right field, and he 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: was rehabbing from an injury, thought to be on his 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 4: way back. I think people are just wondering about the 58 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 4: timing of it, and you're understanding about why it is 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: that this was the moments to move on from a 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: guy that, entering the season seemed to have this role 61 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: and was almost on his way back to being ready 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: to play again. 63 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: You know, since I've been here, Abby has been great 64 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: to me. 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: So I don't know what you know the past, or 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: you know Marlins fans or you guys or whatever, but 67 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: to me, and that's how I can judge people, is 68 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: how they treat me and their teammates around this clubhouse 69 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: and staff, he was great. 70 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: So I have. 71 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't have a negative thing to say about his 72 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: work ethic, his preparation. You know, coming in playing the 73 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: right way, playing as hard as he could, went healthy. 74 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: The guy was hurt, and he was hurt a lot. 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: He was hurt a lot last year and then coming 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: into the season, you know, we had a platoon situation 77 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: with him, and sans As thought it was going to 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: be the right move for him. And you know, honestly, 79 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: when I was in Saint Louis, we had a platoon 80 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: situation with Albert Poolholes too, So this is not like 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: a crazy situation. But the talk was and not that 82 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: he's Albert, but the talk was, play yourself into an 83 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: everyday role. Prove prove that that you can. You can 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 3: do this, because I got no problem with guys coming 85 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: in as a platoon situation and then being an everyday guy. 86 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: That's totally okay with me. 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: And so he, you know, to his credit, he wasn't 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: happy about the conversation early on about the platoon, but 89 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: he understood it and was going to do the best 90 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: he could. Coming off the bench for the first time 91 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: in his career against a pinch hitter, being a pinch 92 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: hitter against a tough lefty in the seventh inning or 93 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: whatever it was, and he did the best he could 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: and then he got hurt again whatever, you know, twenty 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: games in or whatever. It was, so working his way 96 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: back up. It just felt like the situation was where 97 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: there's some younger guys that were gonna kind of give 98 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: a shot to or give a shot to them, you know, 99 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: and Dave Myers and a couple other guys that potentially 100 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 3: could come up, and it felt like it was just 101 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: that the time was, the timing of it was. You know, 102 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: where we're at in the season, and you know, the records, 103 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: the record, I get it, but I felt like, you know, 104 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: the management felt like it was time to see what 105 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: other guys could do. And and you know, unfortunately it's 106 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: had a DFA. Abby never an easy conversation, especially a 107 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: guy that you know, I don't caay, I know what 108 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: the fans think or whatever. 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: I liked him, and uh, the production is the production. 110 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: But I liked him as a person and he was 111 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: good to me, and so those are always not easy conversations. However, 112 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: he played ten years in the big leagues. I don't 113 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: know if he's done or not yet. We'll see what happens. 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: But it's been a really good career overall for Abviy Garcia. 115 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: Being a psychond your manager's skip, there's obviously still some 116 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: things that you experienced for the first time. And just 117 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: to go back to the Luisa Riise trade when you 118 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: find that out and just seeing you know, it's still 119 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: somewhat early in the season, to see that the team 120 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: is going in a certain direction. How did you sort 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: of take that news being that situation for the first time, 122 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: and how what's the message to the guys when they 123 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: see that that move. 124 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was difficult. 125 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: You never want to, you know, lose. You never want 126 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: to start the season like how we did. It was 127 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: not an ideal start, but you feel like you had 128 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty two, right, and so there's there's 129 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: time and you always feel that as a manager that 130 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: you know, it just takes, you know, one big hit 131 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: or one shut out and you can start a winning 132 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: streak and then you get hot and then you know 133 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: what the National League is, it's super competitive, but there's 134 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: only like three or four teams that kind of separated themselves, right, 135 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: So very similar to last year, right, there's like some 136 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: really good teams and then kind of everybody else trying 137 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: to get into that third, third wildcard or whatever you 138 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: want to call it, third spot, and so you alway 139 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: feel like you're in it early until it gets to 140 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: you know, August and September, and then there's some realistic expectations, right, 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: so when that happens. First of all, I can't tell 142 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: you a bad thing about a Rise. He was my 143 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 3: favorite player. He was I shouldn't say my favorite player, 144 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: but one of my favorite players that I've coached at 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: any level, any organization, or even as a player been around. 146 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe how positive he was. 147 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: Every single day. 148 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: Like it didn't make sense how you could be that positive, 149 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: that could have a teammate every single day. 150 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: I mean, it was real. It was not fake. 151 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: I guess it's easier when you're hitting three fifty every day, 152 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: but that's but that's who he was. 153 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 2: He was a hard worker. 154 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: He influenced that clubhouse as positive as I could ever 155 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: have hoped for, especially as a rookie manager in my seat, 156 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: like he was incredible. So when you get the news, 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: it's not easy, but you don't play GM. But that's 158 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: not what I ever wanted to do. That's not what 159 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to do. So the decision is the decision, 160 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: and the where they want to go organization wise is, 161 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: you know, was going to move on from from Leuid 162 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, get some prospects that they think 163 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: are going to help the organization in the future, and 164 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: that's kind of the route you go. And I think 165 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: the main thing for me is I'm trying not to 166 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: lose that clubhouse because I'm not gonna you know, there's 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 3: a there's a shock factor when it when it happens, 168 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: and that's okay the first day or two, and it 169 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: sings a little bit as a as a staff, probably 170 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: even in the front office inside that clubhouse. But I've 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: said it before. Man, the game moves on and you 172 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: have to keep going. These guys still have careers, we 173 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: still have a job to do. We still have to 174 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 3: try to win games. I still talk to Louis almost 175 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: every day text message or whatever, and uh, because I think, 176 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: you know, this games about relationships, and we're gonna be friends, 177 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: you know, a long time after this thing. Uh, and 178 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: when I'm out of here and done with the game, 179 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: we'll still be friends. So yeah, it hurt initially, but 180 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: I think, you know, that again, we have a job 181 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: to do and we have to still go out and 182 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: win games and try to get these players better. 183 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: Yes, get you know Peter ben Ex joins this organization 184 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: first year, Just what were the conversations with you guys, 185 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: you know, from what you could share during the off season, 186 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: what do you guys say you were you know, on. 187 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: The same page, and what this season would kind of 188 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: look like. 189 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think we anticipated starting out the way 190 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: we started, So no, we didn't have that conversation that 191 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 3: you know, let's try to lose the first whatever how 192 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: many games. So no, that that definitely was not part 193 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 3: of the equation. There was a lot of just building 194 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: relationship conversation. So it wasn't a lot of you know, 195 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: players or uh, you know, not to get into two 196 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: many any too many personal conversations, but there's a lot 197 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 3: a lot of just relationships, a lot of hirings, a 198 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: lot of conversations with new guys that are coming in 199 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: as far as the front office and and just trying 200 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: to you know, kind of figure out you know each 201 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: other honestly, as far as like you know the direction 202 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: or you know the direction of the organization. You've heard 203 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: Peter many times say one eye on the future, one 204 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: eye on this team, or vice versa. And I think 205 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: that's real. I think he's trying to do the best 206 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: he can for what's right for this organization, uh, for 207 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: this year and the future. 208 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: And you can see what he's doing, which he's done some. 209 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: Really good uh, acquiring some really good players and like 210 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: Declan Cronin and Fauchet and some guys that you know, 211 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: you can see what he does that he's really good 212 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: at it, acquiring some guys that maybe some guys didn't 213 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: really think they were you know, major league ready yet 214 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: or whatever, that have been really valuable for us. And 215 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 3: then he's traded some guys that he feels like, you know, 216 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: can help the organization in the future. So I think 217 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: the but the our conversations are of haven't change of 218 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm trying to win. So that's that's 219 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: definitely what is on my plate every day. Whatever you know, 220 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: the organization wants to do. As far as the future, 221 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: that's up to them. That's not part of my my conversations. 222 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: It's our staff is trying to win every day with 223 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 3: you know, with the roster that we have, which we 224 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: feel like is good enough to compete every night. 225 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned the importance of relationships and some of 226 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: those new hires, and some of those you hiers included 227 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: Venesh Kapler, Rachel Balkovich. I'm curious ask the manager is 228 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: obviously we're not in that organization. I'm just curious what 229 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: that relationship is like with some of those assistant gms 230 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: and directors of player development, et cetera. 231 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think alignment is is key. You know, I 232 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: went to the d R on the off day two 233 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: days ago or whatever it was. Me and Pipe went 234 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: there and saw the opening ceremonies, saw the opening day 235 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: ceremonies and game. You know, met the new director down there, 236 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: Jay and who's fantastic. And I feel like it starts 237 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: from the top down and and also bottom up. I 238 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: think it's it's both. It's that's what alignment looks like. 239 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: And feel like Rachel's doing everything she can uh to 240 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: figure out exactly how to get these players better and 241 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: to make them big leaguers. And you know, it starts 242 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: with not only the guys down there, but you know 243 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: there's there's gonna be probably a different well, I know 244 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 3: there's a different draft process that's being implemented. So getting 245 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 3: guys in the system and then developing them is going 246 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: to be the the uh, you know, the lifeline and 247 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 3: the bloodline of this organization. Trying to figure out how 248 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: to get you know, major leaguers down below, you know, 249 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: develop major leaguers down below and get them up here. 250 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: So I think they're gonna try different things, new things, 251 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: think outside the box. A lot of conversations i've you know, 252 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: have had with them have been you know, they're going 253 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: to be trying new things to see if it works 254 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: down there and if it and if it does or not, 255 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 3: then they That's the thing about the minor leagues is 256 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: you can adjust down there with some ideas. If it 257 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: doesn't work, then you adjust. It's tough to do that 258 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: up here because you could it hurts you, you know, 259 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: in every win and lost matters. So you can do 260 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: stuff like that that down there. But I think, you know, 261 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: Rachel has hit the ground running and is trying to 262 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: do everything she can with different hiring, different technology being 263 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: implemented down there. And yeah, I think that a lot 264 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: of the coaches and coordinators are trying to be aligned 265 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: with with her and being on the same page and 266 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: and anybody coming in new is going to be you know, 267 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: tough to you know, making sure that you're you're working 268 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 3: together and and getting on the same page. And I 269 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: think that is happening, which is good. And then and 270 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: then see where it takes us. But I think I 271 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna happen overnight, right like you, There's 272 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: a lot of work to do. And and I think, 273 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: you know, Rachel is a really good hire and she's 274 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: gonna do really good things for this organization. 275 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 6: At MPT College Consulting, they pride themselves on helping clients 276 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 6: navigate the college application process. This includes preparation for standardized testing, 277 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 6: guidance through high school, assistance with essays and applications, and 278 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 6: choosing the right college. Their work is always geared towards 279 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 6: the specific needs of the individual client, as they strive 280 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 6: to make this process as stress free for the family 281 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 6: as possible. Visit them at Mptcollegeconsulting dot com to learn 282 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 6: more about their services and schedule a free consultation. 283 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: Skip. There are a ton of people outside of the 284 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 4: clubhouse that think they can do your job, that think 285 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 4: they can be a major league manager from AFAR based 286 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: on in the media and in fans, and I'm sure 287 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: you hear or see a lot of those suggestions when 288 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: things are going well, when things are going poorly, almost 289 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: every single day because of every decision that you have 290 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: to make in front of everybody's view. I'm wondering if 291 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: quietly you've ever seen an idea floated where somebody's ever 292 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: bugged you with something and you've actually like implemented it, 293 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: whether even if it's somebody that hasn't been a manager 294 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 4: before or who doesn't know what they're talking about, is 295 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: there any a time where that surrounding noise actually leads 296 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: to some good ideas that make the team better. No. 297 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: So I hate to do blunts, but if it's a 298 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: you know fan twitter that type, no, I don't. I 299 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: don't really write in my notebook of you know, certain 300 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: suggestions from from d MS or whatever, So that doesn't 301 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: happen if that's what you're asking. But I you know, listen, 302 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: I I am open to anything. I'm trying to get 303 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: it right, I am. I've told you this before. I 304 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: don't believe I have all the answers I'm that I'm 305 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: not naive. There's a lot of things that I am 306 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: missing that I'm trying to figure out still. I think 307 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: that's why you have a really good coaching staff. That's 308 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: why you ask analytics of what's going on? What am 309 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: I missing? I have a meeting almost every day with 310 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: analytics trying to figure out what what I should be doing. 311 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: Am I missing anything from the last game? Was there 312 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: a matchup that? You know? 313 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: Number of things I've had, you know, I've answered fans 314 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: before on certain things, sure of. 315 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: Like you know what you know, what were you thinking 316 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: or whatever. 317 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: I don't answer every one of them, but I do, 318 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: you know, try to, you know, be as good, be 319 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: as honest as I can with you know, certain decisions. 320 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: And not every decision is going to be right. I mean, 321 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: it's just what it is, and that's that is this seat. 322 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: I have to answer when it's good. I definitely have 323 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: to be held accountable when it's bad. And if I 324 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: make a bad decision, I will be the first one 325 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: to tell the players, and I'll be the first one 326 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: I tell you guys. But usually there's a reason behind it. 327 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: I just don't flip a coin. I'm pretty prepared. I 328 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: get here at eleven thirty every day for the seven 329 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: o'clock game, I'm trying to figure out tonight's game, and 330 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: all of my staff is already here. So we're trying 331 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: to figure out this thing together. And you know, it's 332 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 3: not perfect by any means, but you know, we try 333 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: to do our best to get it right. 334 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 5: We look at the starting pitching in the month of May, 335 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 5: you know, five shutouts. You couldn't asked for it any better. 336 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 5: But one of the guys that has really stood out 337 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 5: is Ryan Weathers, a guy if you've known since your 338 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 5: days in San Diego, just what has been the biggest 339 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 5: improvement you've seen from Weathers from when you were in 340 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 5: San Diego. 341 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: Up until you know today. 342 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, probably unfairly we called up Ryan in twenty 343 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: twenty d Over the year he we had a lot 344 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: of injuries, Mike Clevenger, we had a lot of guys 345 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: that got hurt that we needed arms during the COVID, 346 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: the COVID season during the playoffs. Ryan stood out during 347 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: COVID camp. I mean he was throwing it ninety eight 348 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: miles an hours and ninety eight as a nineteen year old, 349 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: blowing it by some really good players in our COVID 350 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: camp in San Diego. 351 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: He was he was elite. 352 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: But I think what happened was is elite, the league adjusts, 353 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: and so if you can't throw any secondary, there's not 354 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: too many Major leaguers that can't catch up to fastball, 355 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: Like you didn't get here not being able to hit 356 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: a fastball, and so I think, you know, the league adjusted. 357 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: And you know, he had some growing paints. I mean, 358 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: he was twenty one having growing paints. I mean, it's 359 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: okay in twenty two. I mean, it's just he's so 360 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: young still when he was going through kind of his 361 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: growing paints. To his credit, he went home, bought a 362 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: track man, bought into some of the stuff that Scott 363 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: was doing. 364 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: Obviously he was raised the right way. 365 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 3: He went home and grinded through this thing to try 366 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: to figure out exactly how to become a major league starter, 367 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 3: and was able to throw his slider inside the strike 368 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: zone for strikes. He created a little bit of a 369 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: sweeping action, which has been, you know, really good pitch 370 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: for him. Not many guys can can hit it when 371 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 3: it's inside the strike zone, and the changeup has been 372 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: really good for strikes during hitters counts and strike the 373 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: ball when he needs it. He also has an f 374 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: you mentality on the mount, like he is not scared 375 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 3: and which which you know me. I love that he 376 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: did a lot of it on his own, but you know, 377 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 3: Mel and the staff were also really good for him. 378 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 2: I think the I think. 379 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: The main thing though, is the willingness to adjust, and 380 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: not just because you're top prospect. He didn't think he 381 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: had it all figured out, and that's that's huge to 382 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: be able to do at such a as such a 383 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: young player, and you know, a top prospect being able 384 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: to do that screams volumes. I didn't know what I 385 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: was getting in spring training. I thought he might have 386 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 3: been a bullpen guy, maybe a length guide, not even sure. 387 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: And then he dominated spring training as a starter. Injuries happened, 388 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 3: he had an opportunity, and man, he's taken off. 389 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 4: Just a few more questions for you skip on the 390 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 4: topic of starting pitching. Max Meyer has been away for 391 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: a while since down just a few weeks into the 392 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 4: season to Triple A. He's been pitching once a week 393 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: down there. Had to limit his workload coming off of surgery. 394 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 4: Of course, want to work more on his change up. 395 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: There were some reasons for it, but it's been a 396 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 4: while now and there seems to be, for lack of 397 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: a better word, to avoid in the rotation right now 398 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 4: behind your top four guys that have been there for 399 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: most of the season. So what is your understanding about 400 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: how he's doing down there. We spoke with the Triple 401 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 4: A broadcaster Scott Kornberg on this podcast last week, and 402 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: he was really encouraged with where he's at. But when 403 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: do you think that Max is going to be an 404 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: option to come back up and rejoin the team. 405 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we told him early on in spring training and 406 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: even in the off season more spring training of kind 407 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: of what the plan was for him that you know, 408 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: we were going to try to protect him in a sense, 409 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: you know, coming off with Tommy John a long time 410 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: since he's pitched, you know, at the major league level, 411 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: or he needs to be built up and not just 412 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: at this level, but some real innings, didn't feel like 413 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: it was the right move just to throw one hundred 414 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: and seventy innings first year in. But I think the 415 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: when he got sent down, he was being so he 416 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: was so good here that it was tough to send 417 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: him down, and and you know, he obviously didn't want 418 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: to be sent down rightfully, so because he was he 419 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 3: was doing really well. I think the last start against 420 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: the Braves was was excellent and so he. 421 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: Probably went down there. Can't speak for it, uh, I 422 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: don't want to speak for. 423 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 3: Him, but almost a lot like Dane Myers when he 424 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: was sent down out of spring training. You know, he 425 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 3: was probably pretty frustrated, and you know the number show 426 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: when you're not you're not mentally you know, all in 427 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 3: on the decision that you know sometimes it can go backwards. 428 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: And but to both their credit, after a couple of starts, 429 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 3: they figured it out and got back on track. And 430 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: Max the last three outings has been outstanding. I know 431 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: you'll see him up here soon. I think it's just 432 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: a matter of time. But I think you want to 433 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: be able to manage his innings the correct way, make 434 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: sure he's healthy, built up the right way for this 435 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 3: year and his future. And and I think there's been 436 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: a lot of really good signs with the development of 437 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 3: his thinker. His changeup has been really good, and we 438 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 3: always know he's had his slider. 439 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: Obviously, we do expect to see Max again at some point. 440 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: And earlier in the pot you had mentioned you know 441 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: some other guys in the outfield that you might see 442 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: come up. Who are some close to big league ready 443 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: guys in the system that you and the organization have 444 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: kept your eye on and that fans might get to see, 445 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, after the trade deadline in August September. 446 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I don't want to speak for Peter. This 447 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: is this is Peter. 448 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: This is not me, you know, calling a triple A 449 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: and calling guys up right, that's not my job. But 450 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 3: Jonah Bride's been hitting the ball as good as anybody 451 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: in the minor leagues. Not sure what more he has 452 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: to prove down there, and I think he has done 453 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 3: enough to be warranted at least a shot at some 454 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 3: point up here. X Edwards has had a long along 455 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 3: road this year. You know, poor guy had a tough 456 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: spring training with the injuries, some really weird foot injury 457 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: infection that he had to like get through and finally 458 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: feels healthy. I think you see him here at some point. 459 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: Not sure what more he has to do either, you know, 460 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: after a really good year last year and even at 461 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: this level, really good. So you know, MESA is intriguing, 462 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: you know, if what he's been able to do. So 463 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 3: there's a there's guys that are down there that obviously 464 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: want to be at this level. But I'm not going 465 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 3: to tell you exactly who's being called up or you 466 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: know when that's going to happen. 467 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 2: That's not my decision. 468 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: That's not fair to the guys that are up here either, 469 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: so I think, but those guys are are definitely doing 470 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: enough to be considered and are knocking on the door. 471 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 4: At this stage. Is your mind fully made up on 472 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: being a major league manager in twenty twenty five? You're 473 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 4: in this situation. You've seen the highs from last year 474 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: and you've seen some lows from this year of being 475 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: in this position something that was somewhat new to you. 476 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 4: And I know you put in a lot of thought 477 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: before taking this job in the first place as to 478 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: whether it fit your lifestyle, fit what you were trying 479 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: to accomplish. There's a lot of ways to be a 480 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 4: baseball man outside of that, and you're in this situation 481 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 4: where our understanding there's nothing locked in with the Marlins 482 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: beyond this season, is are you gonna let things play 483 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: out a little bit more or is this everything that 484 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 4: you wanted it to be when you became a big 485 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: league manager for the first time. 486 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I am there's thirty of these jobs. 487 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 3: I know that I'm very grateful that I get to 488 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 3: manage the Miami Marlins. I'm also grateful that I this 489 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 3: is going to sound weird, but I'm grateful that I 490 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: had to go through this type of situation because you 491 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: kind of find out what you're made of. It's easy 492 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: when it's your rolling, right. I mean, come to ballpark, 493 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 3: you're wild card contender. It's exciting, new manager, new staff, 494 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: there's rises, you know, batting champion, you got cy young 495 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: year is coming up. 496 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: Like that's that's easy. 497 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: When you're getting your butt kicked, you kind of figure 498 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: out you know who you are? Do you really want 499 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: to do this? Are you finger pointing? Are you deflecting 500 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: some blame on others? You grow up quick and I 501 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 3: grew up in this seat this year, and and it's 502 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: you definitely have to make sure that you know you're 503 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: when you're a manager, it's not always going to be 504 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: you know, winning. You know there's gonna be some highs 505 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 3: and lows and and listen, I didn't. 506 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: Want to lose a lot of games. 507 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: That's not where I'm going with this, But I do 508 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: feel like I needed this also, just selfishly to figure 509 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: out exactly you know, who I am. 510 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: Am. I still you know, worth worthy of the seat. 511 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: Can I get guys to come in, still wanting to 512 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: come to the clubhouse, Still positive, still willing to work, 513 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: still trying to win even though where you know, the 514 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: record is the record, And I think the answer is yes. 515 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still loving coming to the ballpark. I 516 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: still love trying to get guys better. I'm still trying 517 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: to empower guys to become, you know, more leaders. I'm 518 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: still loving the staff I have and they're still having 519 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: a great time, you know, during the until the end 520 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: of the game, you know, lately. But but I think 521 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: the the the the willingness and the. 522 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: The energy level, all that stuff. 523 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: Man, I still love being a manager and uh and 524 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: of the Marlins. Now having said that, it's not always that. 525 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 3: All this stuff is not in my control. So, you know, 526 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: being a manager also there is if you don't do 527 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 3: the job, they'll find somebody else. I'm very aware of 528 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: how this seat works. If I wanted to be a 529 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 3: first base coach my whole life and take shint guards 530 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: and uh pat guys on the butt, I could have 531 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: done that, but you know, I wanted more of a 532 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: challenge and and more of a voice and see if 533 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: I could do it. And I feel like, you know, 534 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm very grateful for the opportunity that I got and 535 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: you know, I'm giving everything I have to it last 536 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: year and this year, and that will never change in 537 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 3: whatever position I'm in, you know, whatever that means for 538 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: my future. 539 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: But I think the one. 540 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: Thing is is like I'm not one foot in, one 541 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: foot out man, Like this is I love being here 542 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: and trying to get these guys to a position where 543 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: it's not only good for this year, but for for 544 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 3: their futures as well, for these players because they mean 545 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: a lot to me. 546 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: And so it's the staff. So having said that, like. 547 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna happen, but that but that's 548 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 3: okay too. I think a lot of managers don't know 549 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 3: what they're gonna what's gonna happen to them. 550 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: That's just part of the seat. 551 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: I think with that we can edit their skip. Thank 552 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: you so much for the time. We really appreciate it. 553 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: I know you guys have your hands full. Zach Efln 554 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: coming off the aisle today trying to split takes the 555 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: Taba Bay Rays. Hopefully we can do this again before 556 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: the end of the year, but thank you very much 557 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: again the time for Kevin, for Eli, for myself, thank 558 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: you for listening and as always go fish m.