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Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome back to the Carol Marco's show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: I got a listener note recently that I wanted to answer,

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Speaker 1: and it's been on my mind because this is a

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Speaker 1: topic that everybody's talking about. So let's get into it. Hi, Carol.

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Speaker 1: You talk about not losing your friendships over politics, but

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Speaker 1: I have two friends who have fallen deep into the

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Speaker 1: rabbit hole of conspiracy podcasters, and I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: to do. These friends were moderate or right of center,

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Speaker 1: and it's not that we have policy disagreements. It's that

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Speaker 1: they don't believe anything they hear other than from podcasters

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Speaker 1: who are obviously lying to them. One of the friends

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Speaker 1: has mentioned Jewish power to me, and while I'm not Jewish,

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Speaker 1: it was jarring to hear my normal friends say something

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Speaker 1: like this. What do I do? So it's true I

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Speaker 1: have often talked about not losing friendships over politics, but

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Speaker 1: I do think that some things are transcending of politics,

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Speaker 1: and that when you go too far and it's no

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Speaker 1: longer about just policy or supporting a politician or a

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Speaker 1: policy idea or any kind of thing like that, then

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Speaker 1: it's a different step. Bridget Fetisi had this great line

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Speaker 1: on x. She tweeted, it's actually like being in a

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Speaker 1: zombie apocalypse movie, and when someone you love starts talking

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Speaker 1: about the Zionists, it's them pulling up their sleeve to

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Speaker 1: reveal they've been bit and you're like, oh shit, not

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Speaker 1: you too. That's what rings true to me. It's not

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Speaker 1: that you disagree with them on politics, it's that they

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Speaker 1: are going through something. I like to imagine that maybe

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Speaker 1: people can come back from that zombie apocalypse, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen it happen yet. Bethany Mandel once wrote

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Speaker 1: a piece titled It's time to start befriending Neo Nazis Now.

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Speaker 1: I was never in full agreement with her about it,

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Speaker 1: because when someone shows me they oppose me, I don't

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Speaker 1: go to great lengths to earn their support. But I

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Speaker 1: do get her argument. In the bigger picture, we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: throw away people who have been led astray. We should

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Speaker 1: try to help them. So do you cut off your friends?

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Speaker 1: I admit that I have definitely distanced myself from people

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Speaker 1: who have made these kinds of nods towards the conspiracy right, because,

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Speaker 1: like you say, it's not a policy disagreement. If you

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Speaker 1: oppose the war in Iran and I support it, we

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Speaker 1: can still be friends. If you oppose it because you

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Speaker 1: think Jews are conniving con artists who have tricked our

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Speaker 1: president into defending Israel, then no, we can't be friends.

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Speaker 1: The point that I come back to again and again

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Speaker 1: is that the people who end up on the wrong

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Speaker 1: side of the Zionists are out to get us. They

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Speaker 1: ultimately end up betraying a hatred of America too. The

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Speaker 1: most disgusting episode of this whole podcast is Dan Saga

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Speaker 1: is Can't Just Own, suggesting that Erica Kirk might be

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Speaker 1: involved in the murder of her husband Charlie. Another gross

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Speaker 1: one is Tucker Carlson going to Russia and marveling at

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Speaker 1: it in the most just left wing sucker way. Now,

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Speaker 1: neither of these things involve Jews or Israel, and to

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Speaker 1: me they are evident that yes, Jews may be the

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Speaker 1: target now, but it never ends with just us. So

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Speaker 1: your choice is obviously to keep your friends and try

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Speaker 1: to change their minds or cut them off. And it's

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Speaker 1: not really a decision that anyone can make for you,

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Speaker 1: or advice that somebody can give you, because you have

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Speaker 1: to decide whether there is something to lose if you

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Speaker 1: no longer have these friends, and the question you need

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Speaker 1: to ask yourself is do your values still align with them?

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Speaker 1: It really might be an easy out if you realize

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Speaker 1: they do not. Thank you so much for writing in.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to write in, you can email Carol

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Speaker 1: Markowitzshow at gmail dot com or check out on my

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Speaker 1: ex page. I sometimes post a link to the anonymous

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Speaker 1: place where you can submit a question. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: my interview with Philip Raikhart. Staying right here, Hi, and

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: My guest today is Philip Raykart. Philip is the.

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Speaker 1: Founder of a new online magazine called Juneto. So nice

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Speaker 1: to meet you, Philip.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Carol, how are you doing.

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Speaker 2: So, I've been.

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Speaker 1: Hearing about your magazine from you. I would love to

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Speaker 1: hear what you're planning to do and what the impetus.

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Speaker 2: Was for this.

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Speaker 3: Sure, So, I've been working in media for a long time.

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Speaker 3: By my standards, I'm fairly young compared to most of

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Speaker 3: the people who work in media. But I've been working

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Speaker 3: in media for a while and I've noticed we have,

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Speaker 3: at least within you conservative circles, we have cles of

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Speaker 3: consensus and debate, But especially now as we get increasingly

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Speaker 3: have these debates amongst ourselves with people who should be

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Speaker 3: these people, you know, should be ideologically aligned with us

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Speaker 3: at least most of the time. But we're not really

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Speaker 3: having those debates we are. We're separating into into silos.

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Speaker 3: We're talking to people who agree with us, and if

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Speaker 3: it's like dunking on Twitter, right, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's very productive.

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Speaker 1: So is the magazine going to feature a variety of viewpoints?

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Speaker 1: Is Juneto going to be I don't know, a magazine for.

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Speaker 3: All it's I wouldn't well, I would be open to

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Speaker 3: having quote all if if it is presented in one

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Speaker 3: good faith and two if you can rely on the perspective.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I don't necessarily appreciate about

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Speaker 3: think that sometimes the framing that the left has through

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Speaker 3: maybe no fault of their own, but maybe through through bias,

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Speaker 3: they don't cover right wing issues correctly. And I think

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Speaker 3: they have their context to do so even when they try,

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Speaker 3: even when you know, you take a capital Jay journalist,

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Speaker 3: they just don't. They don't know what they're talking about,

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Speaker 3: necessarily with intra conservative debate. So I would be hesitant

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Speaker 3: the good faith you know, provision is somewhat normal. I

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Speaker 3: think we're all trying to either advance our own perspective

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Speaker 3: within conservative discourse or be just you know, talk with

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Speaker 3: people who should be our allies. So it is. It

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Speaker 3: is a magazine for all, at least within the conservative debate.

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Speaker 1: Yes, expect liberals or leftists to write for you, like,

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Speaker 1: do you think they'll expect to pitch us?

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Speaker 3: For sure? I think I think, I think, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: even with conservative journalists, there is always a push to

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Speaker 3: the want to be acknowledged by institutional media from right

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Speaker 3: It is almost tempting, I think for a liberal or

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Speaker 3: just somebody who pays attention to want to be, you know,

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Speaker 3: commentating on these issues. So I do expect, assuming there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I have never wanted to be published in Washington Post

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Speaker 1: or New York Times. I just never had the like

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Speaker 1: urge for it. In fact, as you were saying that,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, what I'm most proud of, Like when

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Speaker 1: I'm most proud of my work is when I self

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Speaker 2: Really blowing up, like becoming very big.

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Speaker 1: Look, it's easy to when you write for the New

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Speaker 1: York Post or Fox News, your pieces, you know, get

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Speaker 2: It's great. I love it. I love it a lot.

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Speaker 2: I love both of those outlets as my home outlets.

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Speaker 1: But I feel the most pride when I like substack

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Speaker 1: something and it explodes. And that, to me is the

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Speaker 1: opposite of wishing to write in the Washington Post or

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. It's like building your own audience

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Speaker 2: Do you feel that.

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Speaker 3: I think, whether good or bad, if you're writing for

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Speaker 3: an outlet, they are your contractor they are hiring you.

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Speaker 3: To write this, presumably because they want that position to

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Speaker 3: the right person to do that, and it may be

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Speaker 3: even sometimes even a novel viewpoint, but at the end

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Speaker 3: and you don't really see that on substack sometimes Twitter too,

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Speaker 3: guardrails on either end, and it does blow up. I

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Speaker 3: think that does two things. One, it's obviously incredibly satisfying

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Speaker 3: to have your ideas validated. But two, I think that

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Speaker 2: So what are you going to do differently from other

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Speaker 3: What's the thinking, Well, I would like to have when

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Speaker 3: we have intraconservative debate. And the hard thing about this

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Speaker 3: Some people will say and see that Mike Huckabee just

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Granted, this probably isn't the best business model, but you know,

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Speaker 2: So how will you make money?

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Speaker 3: We will, We will do our best. I think the

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Speaker 3: that people When I consume media, I granted I work

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Speaker 3: to be challenged. I want to learn something. I want

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Speaker 3: People do want to confirm their priors. They do very much.

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Speaker 3: It's been really good. It's been it's been mixed on topic,

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Speaker 3: but it has been really good. I mean, within we

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Speaker 3: Well, this is kind of cheating. I think this prediction

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Speaker 1: I've loved this conversation, Philip. I think you're very interesting

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Speaker 1: Leave us here with your best tip for my listeners

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Speaker 3: Sure, so, I'll lead it with a very quick story

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Speaker 3: two reasons. One, America is obviously prosperous and we have

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Speaker 3: a commitment to the rule of law and all of

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Speaker 3: these things. But more importantly, whenever there is a crisis

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Speaker 3: like that, I'm not saying we have an inherent obligation

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Speaker 3: to fix it, but whenever there's a crisis like that,

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Speaker 3: if someone is going to be the mediator or the

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Speaker 3: force that fixes it, it's going to be America. So

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Speaker 3: I think one thing that all Americans could really take

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Speaker 3: away from is just a very intentional, you know, being

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Speaker 3: thankful of America. Because I don't know exactly why you

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Speaker 3: do what you do, but I do what I do

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Speaker 3: because it's all oriented around service to country. And I

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Speaker 3: think whether you're a mother just you know, raising the

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Speaker 3: next generation, or whether you're a pundit like selling takes

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Speaker 3: on Twitter or whether you're a Fox News host, all

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Speaker 3: of that has to come from America. First.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I love that answer. I think that is so right on.

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Speaker 1: What we have here is so special and different. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we're recording this right after the US men's

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Speaker 1: hockey team one amazing win against Canada.

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Speaker 2: This is going to air in a few weeks. But

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Speaker 2: it's a very raw, raw America.

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Speaker 1: Day, and I love the idea that we should appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on. He is Philip Breakhart.

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Speaker 2: Check him out at Junto Magazine.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you,