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Speaker 1: I am all in a kiss you. I am all

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Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. All right, everybody,

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Speaker 1: we're back for Christopher Returns. I'm Scott Patterson and this

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Speaker 1: is the I Am All In Podcast with iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: and one eleven Productions, and we are going to discuss

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Speaker 1: a I mean, just what a what a what an episode?

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Speaker 1: I mean far talk about fireworks in the Gilmour living room.

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Speaker 1: It was like an m m A fighting there amongst

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Speaker 1: the high i Q set. You know, it was like

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Speaker 1: whoa takedowns all over the place and got physical. You

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Speaker 1: got physical with what's his name? Mr? What's his name? Mr?

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Speaker 1: Hay stro Beaden, What a name? Loved the name Strobe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it got physical. Richard in in his guardag

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Speaker 1: he stood up like a grizzly bear, uh and just

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Speaker 1: grabbed that man, tossed him out of his house defending Laurel.

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Speaker 1: I what a what a what an episode? My god?

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Speaker 1: And scene was not okay, that was upsetting. It was

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Speaker 1: it was very upsetting. But yeah, the whole thing was upsetting.

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Speaker 1: But Emily, I think Emily tried to save the evening

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Speaker 1: for poor Rory in the kitchen. Was it was kind

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Speaker 1: of heartbreaking because I've never seen Emily that vulnerable where

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Speaker 1: she's just like, my god, what what? What? You know,

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Speaker 1: the trauma that this child must have gone through as

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Speaker 1: a result of perhaps Richard and Emily's actions towards their

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Speaker 1: daughter and then through through the years is now getting

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Speaker 1: you know, that same behavior is getting on Rory. So

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Speaker 1: I think she felt a little guilty about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that was a nice scene after the scarring I

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Speaker 1: experienced from the scene before Goodness Christopher returns. Boy did that?

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Speaker 1: Uh man? That guy, he just came in too hard

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Speaker 1: and too fast with the marriage thing. I wanted, you know,

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, that was aggressive, I thought, so do like,

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Speaker 1: like have a plan, you know, have a like a

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Speaker 1: six month plan or a year plan. You've been out

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Speaker 1: of the picture for sixteen years, and like night one,

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Speaker 1: So much happened in that episode because they slept together too. Sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to hurt you.

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Speaker 1: But didn't bother me. Really didn't bother me at all.

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Speaker 1: Now I underd I understood, I under stood why that happened.

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Speaker 1: I tried to. I think I was so overwhelmed by it.

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Speaker 1: I just attached myself emotionally and just sort of went

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Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, that's of course that's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Entirely predictable. It had to happen. Um, And it did.

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Speaker 1: And I was kind of glad that it did, because

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Speaker 1: if that didn't happen, then maybe they would have gotten together.

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Speaker 1: I think the very fact that he pushed it to

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Speaker 1: she she protested very strongly, um and said all the

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Speaker 1: you have demonstrated no ability to make that level of

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Speaker 1: the most heartbreaking thing about to go when Christopher arrived

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought I'd be there all night. But

426
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: it was just a fun quick day and I got

427
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: to do my little uh credit card decline, which you know,

428
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: somehow people still remember that about me, that I had

429
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: to decline Chris credit card. Well, it's nice they remember

430
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: it because the acting was good. Because you were so

431
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: sensitive and you you're sitting here trashing your acting ability,

432
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: but you you knew to not say it, even in

433
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: a normal room tone. You whispered it to him because

434
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: you wanted to spare him the embarrassment embarrassment and that

435
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: that made people love you so well. It was just

436
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: the funny party I wanted to the opposite of Usually

437
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: a lot of TV shows, certainly was a lot of

438
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: sitcoms I've washed in life. Would he'd got on the

439
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: microphone and go, you know, price check on the O

440
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: E ed you know, and I went, well, how can

441
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: I do the exact opposite of that? So I and

442
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to trash all my acting abilities, just

443
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: that I never thought of myself that, you know, I'm

444
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: like just having to be on the show and goofing around.

445
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: But it was just just a you know a little

446
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: fun thing on what Well, I'm not gonna go Chris,

447
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: your card was declined exact opposite. Um, you know, maybe

448
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: sure the second take, Um, but you handled it with

449
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: real Uh you're a real gentleman about it. I mean you,

450
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: but that's the small town value that that viewers expect,

451
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna embarrass somebody. But it would have

452
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: been funny. It would have liked you very much, but

453
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: it was it was a great choice. Um, what did

454
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: you think about Christopher's character? I thought he was great.

455
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: I I because I hadn't watched I hadn't watched the

456
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: whole episode, and I hadn't really watched a lot of

457
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: the episodes, you know, like, so let's think about your show.

458
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: And I know there's the other show of on on

459
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: Clubhouse about John Colbert is watching the shows and for

460
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: the first time, it's kind of funny to watch them

461
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: and go, oh, these are great, not just the ones

462
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: I was in that I saw my card, but I

463
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: see the whole thing. But I missed in the first time,

464
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: and I had nothing to do with me watching all

465
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: him myself. But but it was so well put together.

466
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 1: He's such a good character that you wanted more of him,

467
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: and you fully understood why he couldn't keep being on

468
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: the show. But it was just like all the moments

469
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: and you know, like I said, they're sleeping together and

470
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: it should have had a second kid, but just even

471
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: not showing up for you and just oh and then

472
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: she came back to the dinner that morning in her pajamas.

473
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: I was just like, Oh, everything came together. I don't.

474
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: I just am so impressed by how the show came

475
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: together all the time, and it didn't break your heart.

476
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: But it broke here. It it got you, like, it

477
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: just grabbed you. That's why I finally, you know, I

478
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: see all the time on the show. Yeah, poor pathetical Luke.

479
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: All right, I'm telling you that, Eide, I'm telling you, Mike,

480
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: that episode let me up. It was such a rama rama.

481
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: Don't you think it was a little it was a

482
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: little Telemundo esque. Not the Telemundo is bad. I love it.

483
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: I love those the passion of those of the writing

484
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: and the acting. But I mean, it really was. It

485
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: got fraught with you know, there was physic physical almost

486
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: physical violence. There was confrontation. There was was gonna punch

487
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: a guy. He was gonna punch of It's gonna Deckham.

488
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: There was it was, it had I don't I don't

489
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: even know if this makes sense, but there's it just

490
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: kept it kept moving and kept raising the stakes and

491
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: everything kept happening. And I went, how did this show

492
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: not how did how did Christopher Returns not be an

493
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: episode where people turned it in and said, this is

494
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: an episode that you should watch and this should get

495
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: an Emmy and people should know these characters and then

496
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: and love this show. And and it certainly already had

497
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: its flooting it. By the fifteenth episode of the first season,

498
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: it was just it was all there, all the Yeah,

499
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I guess we'll have to do another

500
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: seven seasons and drive the point home. What do you

501
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: think where Amy can? Amy can? Can she call? Is

502
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: she gonna? Is she gonna? She has your number? Tell

503
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: her to tell him? Tell her? You're ready? Seven more seasons?

504
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Seven more? So okay, so let me let me just

505
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: ask you this because I like to ask this question

506
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: and because this is really a fan generated question. So

507
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: this is from Sarah um from Little Rock. She wanted

508
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: to know, Mike, what is your favorite memory of Gilmore? Well,

509
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: I tell the story. I feel like I've told the

510
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: story a lot. But the disaster of having to remove

511
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: all my body hair for the art episode was does

512
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: That was the nightmare. If you don't mind, I'll tell

513
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: it one last time. But because I where's the camera

514
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: like I have, I'm not lacking in body hair my arms,

515
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, so I didn't know what to do. I

516
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do because I've never removed body hair.

517
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: So they say, well, you can do a lot of things,

518
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's waxing or shaving or whatever, and they,

519
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: so I bought a bottle of nare, which I don't

520
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: know if anyone knows this. It's not pleasant, but hang on,

521
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: so it grows you on the bottle. It was near neat.

522
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't mean to single out one brand. There was

523
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: a brand. Yeah, So I put a little bit on

524
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: my arm and it tells you and then you leave

525
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: it for five minutes. You take a wash off and

526
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: you wipe it off and then it works and if

527
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: it works, they go, great, you're fine. So it works

528
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: perfectly in five minutes. So I then cover my arm

529
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 1: and neat or near whatever it is leather arm and

530
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: of course it makes my apartment stink, but no offense

531
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: to their brand. And then I wipe wipe it off

532
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: and it's but I had to do my entire from

533
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: the waist up. Well, since I did it all it

534
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: was it made my skin like burn and bubble and scab,

535
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: so so I couldn't And then this is like just

536
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: before the episodes taping it, so they told me to

537
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: come in for a makeup test to do the white

538
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: statue makeup. Well, I had nowhere in my body that

539
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: didn't have blisters, so I couldn't even make the test,

540
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I don't know what you're doing. I

541
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: can't do, but I do have no body hair from

542
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: the waist up, so at least I've got that. So

543
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: I finally like, I have two or three more days

544
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: since from the makeup test of the day, I'm taping

545
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: the show and I take the show. It was a

546
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: Friday night, but it's my call time was basically twelve

547
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: thirty Saturday morning because they're gonna shoot till like six

548
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: in the morning on Saturday morning, and they have to

549
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: paint me with first white paint and then black paint

550
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: and make it marbled. And it's but I can't, Like

551
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: my skin is kind of repaired, but it's not really repaired,

552
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: like it's still blisters. But they can't. They can't. It's freezing.

553
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: Also in Burbing that maxis a dessert and it's I'm

554
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: but they can't move in by a heater because they'll

555
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: make the paint melt and they can't put a jacket

556
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: with the jacket will take the paint off, and they

557
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: can't put anything on me. So I'm sort of freezing

558
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm painted. It took like two or

559
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: three people to paint the white and then paint the

560
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: black and paint the marbling, and then I have to

561
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: wear a I wore a head thing, so and I go,

562
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: I I swear I'm not a diva. I swear I'm

563
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: trying not to be high maintenance, but I couldn't. I

564
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: sort of stand by a heater just enough that the

565
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: paint doesn't mount, and they're like, no, because the paint will.

566
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm like okay. And then they finally shot my shot

567
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: um just before sunrise, like you know, I get like

568
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: five forty five am or something. I finally do the

569
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: shot and they let me warm up by eating the

570
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: chili that was on a craft service, so that was

571
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: they did help out um, and then it took like

572
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: an hour for them. It took like two or three

573
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: people to take baby wipe, to take all the makeup

574
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: off and so but oddly it's one of those things

575
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: that was moderately unpleasant time and yet now it's the

576
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: greatest memory to have been. But it was what did

577
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: you do? I think that's when Cambell said. I got

578
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: that because I took her to the beacrom class, so

579
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: otherwise I sat in town meeting. So really it was

580
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: a fun it was a fun, fun memory to do

581
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: something different. You know, you break up your break up

582
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: your memories by having something fun, right right, right? Um,

583
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: this is a little segment we do where we use

584
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: one I want you to use one word to describe

585
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: the following characters. You ready, Okay? Here we go. Uh Luke?

586
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: Uh god, I want to say no no cell phones.

587
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: He was the boss. He was it's a boss. Look

588
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: at yeah. Alright, but you ran this, I mean you were.

589
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: You didn't run the town because that was tandard, but

590
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: like you, you were in charge of like the different attitude.

591
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: You know, even in the reboot when you're like talking

592
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: about the floaty hut and you're yelling and like you

593
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: when we were, people are all voting on who to

594
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: do things that it's our relationship, dot yours, not yours,

595
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: not yours, not yours. Don't mess with Luke? Alright, you

596
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: like it? Uh miss Patty? Oh? Fun Christopher? Oh he

597
00:34:46,440 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: couldn't declined? Taylor Dozi? Who Taylor Dozi? Oh? Yuh surly

598
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: bad bad wacky Laurela the sweet I should have all

599
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: seen you sweet for her, but she was so earnest Kirk,

600
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: there's there's a hyphenated offbeat. Uh, Mrs Kim rigid in

601
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: her beliefs. She has some from right and wrongness rules

602
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: all right? Now, So now, Mike, we are entering our

603
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: rapid fire the evening. Yes, are you ready? So I'm

604
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: gonna fire some questions at you and you answer them

605
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: best you can. How do you take your coffee? Never

606
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: had coffee in my life? Can you smell snow? Yes?

607
00:35:51,880 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: Are you? Team logan? Jess Or Dane asked, why not?

608
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: Who's the daddy? I'm going Paul. Everyone forgot about Paul,

609
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: and I think even Rory forgot Paul was the dad Paul.

610
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: He was the guy who was forgotten in the episode

611
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: that every forgot he was dating, and he was she

612
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: dated him in the reboot and and he was there

613
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: and they all forgot he was even the person. I

614
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: say it, that's perfect. I love That's the best answer

615
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: I've heard, you know, Ted Ted Rooney gave a really

616
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: great answer because he just said, I don't even want

617
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: to get involved in that. It's creepy, but but that

618
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: was really good. Paul Um, we already answered this best

619
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: memory show you you're binge watching right now. I'm just

620
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: keeping up on it. But Ted Lasso is great and

621
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: some going back and rewatching him. So Ted Lassett cast

622
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: member you texted most recently probably Reney Bell, but also

623
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: they weren't cast members with the real Dave Dawski and

624
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: I are friends, and his wife, Helen Pie, we're friends.

625
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: And you know Helen Pie's name is the anagram for

626
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: help alien. Oh really? Um? Are you familiar with the

627
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: creepy clown pillow? But I want one now? Um? You

628
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: know what I didn't ask you. I want to ask you,

629
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: so that's rapid fire, but I didn't ask you. How

630
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: would you describe the character of Andrew? This is another

631
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: fan question. This is the uh Corine Karine Karine from

632
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. Okay, well, it's difficult because I I

633
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: actually worked in two bookstores in life, so being a

634
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: bookstore employee, I totally got but I and it's not

635
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: as my own when it really the reason Like in

636
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: one of the episodes when when Jas was first introduced,

637
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Speaker 1: I said, my son said he set off the fire

638
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Speaker 1: alarms at school. And I had a son that has

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Speaker 1: just appeared. So I had a son, So I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that. I mean I had the UH and

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Speaker 1: I had the girlfriend in the dance episode who we

642
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Speaker 1: got to fight because she dated Liam Neeson? But I,

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Speaker 1: I wait a minute in the script, yeah, because I

644
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: I screamed, they said they set it up, and Andrew

645
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Speaker 1: woids a fight with his girlfriend at the dance marathon

646
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: and then we get to fight. Me and my my

647
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: date in the episode Lisa, and she said what I

648
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Speaker 1: don't I forget what I said, but to b and

649
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Speaker 1: I said, no, I can't stand Liam Neeson. And I

650
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Speaker 1: left because apparently my date had once dated Liam Neeson.

651
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: But but you think would be a more of a story.

652
00:38:51,360 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: You're almost a whole spinoff shell right there. But oh,

653
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: so you know I had I had the one date

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Speaker 1: ever leose. So but we've got in a fight, and otherwise,

655
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Speaker 1: you know, he was just as the town meeting guy

656
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Speaker 1: in the bookstore guy. So I tried to give him

657
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Speaker 1: some some gentle sweetness. But otherwise I don't I don't

658
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: have much more backstory for him. Who are your big

659
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: influences as a writer? Who did you who did you

660
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Speaker 1: Who did you love growing up? Who did you read?

661
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Who influenced you the most? Well? I watched way too

662
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Speaker 1: much TV, so like I love David Lloyd who's the

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Speaker 1: guy who wrote Chunk as the clown the show there's

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Speaker 1: a clown episode of Marytime to more episode? Like I

665
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: wanted to be David Lloyd. I wanted to write sitcoms

666
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: and write jokes and even as when I did comedy,

667
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: when I did stand up, I you know, I I

668
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: was fine, but I really was sitting around going, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing stand up hoping someone will see me, and saying,

670
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: you should be writing on a TV show. But that

671
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: doesn't happen when you're in the middle of, like doing

672
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Speaker 1: a show in oh Claire, Wisconsin. There's not gonna be

673
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Speaker 1: a producer going what are you doing here? Go? You know?

674
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Speaker 1: So um, you know. I finally got myself to Hollywood

675
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 1: anyway and did it myself. But I just always watched

676
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: TV shows like it was sort of weird. I went

677
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: to I went to Kaddy because I was a little kid,

678
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Speaker 1: and one time the teacher said, you can't just spend

679
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Speaker 1: your time watching TV. And I was a little kid.

680
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Speaker 1: I was being a wise guy but sort of meant it.

681
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: I went, what if you want to work on TV shows?

682
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Speaker 1: I guess I don't have an argument for you, wise guy,

683
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: but you know, so so I was watching TV show

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Speaker 1: with my like nwe like David Lloyd, who you know

685
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: writing TV sitcoms, and Bob Ellison was the the guy

686
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Speaker 1: who wrote on Marriage, how to Moore and wrote sitcoms,

687
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Speaker 1: and I'm like those guys. I wanted to be like them.

688
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Speaker 1: So those were your favorite shows? I mean I watched

689
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Speaker 1: them all, but I you know, I loved all in

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Speaker 1: the Family and Marriage had a more Bob Newhart did

691
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Speaker 1: I say that twice? Um? And you know, but I

692
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Speaker 1: wished happy days and work in Mindy and on and

693
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Speaker 1: on through through all the shows. And then when I

694
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Speaker 1: got to work on Roseanne, I went, wait, I'm I'm

695
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Speaker 1: writing on the number one show. How can I when

696
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: I do? I'm writing on his TV show? And so

697
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's it was kind of a fun getting

698
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: to do what you want to do. And then I now,

699
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: now I sit and write scripts. And but what was

700
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Speaker 1: she like? What was Roseanne like to work with? I

701
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: loved her like people. It's weird because she knew she

702
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: knew her character so well that the writers would be like,

703
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: here's a joke. She'd go, now, that's not I wouldn't

704
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Speaker 1: say that, and then they'd be back in the room

705
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Speaker 1: going why mun't you do the things we're writing, And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, she's not wrong. She her character knows. She

707
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Speaker 1: knows that she wouldn't say that, so I like, it

708
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: was weird that people would complain, but I went, she

709
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Speaker 1: knows the character better than we do. No offense. But

710
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Speaker 1: so if she says, well, I wouldn't say that, she

711
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say it. And that's but it's mostly the best

712
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 1: lesson I learned was her name was on the cover

713
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: of the script, so everything dealt with how she how

714
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: it affected Like I just talked about that the other

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Speaker 1: day to someone that Dan and Darlene fighting. They could

716
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Speaker 1: fight on any t show, but on Roseanne, their fight

717
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: was how it affects Roseanne. So it made you remember

718
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: the show is through Roseanne's eyes. It's through a way

719
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: of seeing the show through the stars, saying not just

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Speaker 1: a family sitcom and dad and daughter are doing this

721
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Speaker 1: and dad wants DJ to be this. It wasn't it

722
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: was how does this affect this? The star of the show.

723
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Speaker 1: And it's sort of a good lesson to remember how

724
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Speaker 1: to write characters, and even as a joke, right, it

725
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: was much easier write for a strong character like Dennis

726
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: Miller than it was for a a guy who just

727
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: goes send me some jokes. You go, I don't know

728
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: anything about you, so how you just wanted to say

729
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: something wacky and funny. But it's easier with a character

730
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Speaker 1: like Dennis Miller or Roseanne right who they are. Once

731
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Speaker 1: you know who they are, it's much easier and much

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00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: more fun. Anyway, it's been fun, and it's really been

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Speaker 1: It's been really great catching up with you, and we'd

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Speaker 1: love to have you back on. I can already. I

735
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: can hear the producers laughing through the whole interviews. So

736
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Speaker 1: but I'm glad it's talk to you and enjoy enjoy

737
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: washing the rest of shows, and I'll come back anytime

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Speaker 1: you need. All right, buddy, be well, good luck with

739
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: your projects. Let me know how I can help in anyway,

740
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: and uh, definitely, and we'll be in touch then. Okay,

741
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: all right, Well that was fun. That was Mike Gan Dolphie.

742
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: It was great having him on. Hope to have been

743
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: back on pretty soon. Um, so we'll be back after

744
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: these works. Yeah. We are joined by Lauren Wong, who

745
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: is the CEO and founder of Flex. Lauren, can you

746
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: just start by telling us what is Flex. Yeah. Flex

747
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: is a brand of sustainable period care products. We have

748
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Speaker 1: a few different products, from Menstrel disks to Menstrel cups,

749
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: flushable biodegradable wipes and foaming washes, all our plant based.

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00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: I've heard of these the cup. If I'm going to

751
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: be on us, but I'm a little nervous about it,

752
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: can you explain what it is, how it works, the

753
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: benefits of it, and maybe ease some of my nerves? Yeah, totally. Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: our first product was actually the disc because we heard

755
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: lots of that feedback about cups. People were afraid it

756
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: would get stuck. People are really afraid it would be messy,

757
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: but they wanted something more sustainable than their traditional period

758
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: products like tampons and pads, and so the disc was

759
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: designed to be the first single use products. So it's disposable,

760
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: but it can be worn for up to twelve hours.

761
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: It's never been linked to TSS and you can empty

762
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: it on the go, so it holds up to three

763
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: super tampons and you get hands free emptying when you

764
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom and your pain. Um. It empties

765
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: itself in the toilet and you can keep going about

766
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: your day up to twelve hours and then when you

767
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: get home you can remove it and toss it, so

768
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: you end up using six less waste than traditional period products.

769
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Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about, you know, and saying

770
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: out a cup in a public space, um, And that's

771
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: our best selling product and it's been out since UM.

772
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: In the cup, I get it like they look kind

773
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: of big and intimidating, UM, but I promise you that

774
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: they fit. And our cup was actually designed. It's the

775
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: only product in the world with a poll tab that

776
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: was designed actually for beginners, for people to be able

777
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: to remove it similar to a tampon, so that there's

778
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: less waste, and it helps alleviate some of those concerns

779
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: about it getting stuck. And why was this company something

780
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: that you felt was important to create, Why did you

781
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: want to create it? And what is the benefit to women? Yeah,

782
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: well we sell products to all people who went straight UM.

783
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: And for me, I was suffering from use infections for

784
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: fifteen years and I ended up trying period products from

785
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: all over the world trying to solve the problem because

786
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: a nurse practitioner told me I was getting use infections

787
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: from my tampons and pads. Also, we're pretty disruptive to

788
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: my skin. UM. So I wanted to create a brand

789
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: that would co design all of our products with real

790
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: customers and co design the products to solve real problems

791
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: that I hear from people like odor, leaking, cramping, you know,

792
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: concerns around sustainability, as I said earlier. And because we're

793
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: co designing our our period products of real customers, they

794
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: feel real benefits. And I think that's why the brand

795
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: has been so successful to date, because our products are

796
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: patented and there's just nothing else like them on the market.

797
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: It does sound like a dream come true. I just

798
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: need to give it that chance, Like I can do this,

799
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: I can do this well. If you have any questions

800
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: or you experience any issues, please reach out to our Flexperts.

801
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: They're available seven days a week, I think twelve hours

802
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: a day. They're extremely kind, extremely helpful human beings, and

803
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: they're just here to make sure that people are successful.

804
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, again, like when I very first started the company,

805
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the winning hundred number went to my cell phone, Nobody

806
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: knows that, um and I did it. I would just

807
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: pretend like a customer service person. Uh well, I was

808
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: the customer service person, but I had a team at

809
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: the time, and they did it because I really wanted

810
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: to understand some of these fears and challenges and stumbling

811
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: box that people had when they're learning to use products

812
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: like ours for the first time. Because um, we need

813
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: to improve the instructions, you need to create more content

814
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: on YouTube, we needed to build a team of flexperts,

815
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: of people that could be there in real time to

816
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: like help troubleshoot and answer questions and give people confidence

817
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: that they put it in right because I'm sure once

818
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: you do it, then you're good. Yeah, once you do it,

819
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: then you're good. So if you want a period product

820
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: that looks out for your body, your lifestyle, and the planet,

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Speaker 1: you've got to try. Flex Flex is innovating period care

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Speaker 1: with products that are body safe, made for comfort, and

823
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: made to keep you moving. There's the flex Disc, which

824
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: is one time use menstrual disk that fits perfectly inside

825
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: your body. One flex disc can be worn up to

826
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Speaker 1: twelve hours and folds as much flow as three super tampons.

827
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Speaker 1: And if you want to go zero waste and have

828
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Speaker 1: the planet will love you even more, pick up the

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Speaker 1: Flex Cup, a reusable mental cup that Cosmo rated number

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Speaker 1: one with helpful videos, in depth diagrams, even gifts and

831
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Speaker 1: flex birds available to walk you through the entire process.

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Speaker 1: You'll never go back to products from the past once

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Speaker 1: you try Flex, so say goodbye to cramps, put sex

834
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Speaker 1: back on the table, and lend mother nature at hand.

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Speaker 1: Go to flex fits dot com slash all in and

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Speaker 1: S shipping. That's code all in at flex f l

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Speaker 1: e x fits dot com slash all in. Let me

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00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: tell you something that Mike Gandolfie is one of verbose

841
00:48:51,960 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: individual with some excellent verbosity coming out of his face. Funny.

842
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: That's a great memories too, great memories that guy, That guy,

843
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 1: my god, now you know. Now it brings back all

844
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: those memories of of hanging with him on the set

845
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: because he was he was very quiet on set. He

846
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: wasn't like that, probably because he just was so like

847
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: happy to be there but didn't want to like overstep.

848
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: He seems like that kind of guy. His nair neat story,

849
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: it's just and he was so careful not to offend

850
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: the nare and meet people. But he was using his uh,

851
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: his his his hard, hard gotten, hard fought gotten. If

852
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: that's a phrase comedy chops on the road doing stand

853
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: up telling that story, man, because that's not your average

854
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of storyteller. Man. He had me in tears. He

855
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: I couldn't even speak. I imagine how funny he is

856
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: his standard routine. Oh my god, Yeah, he's great. It's

857
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: just the quality of his his presentation, his vocal quality,

858
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: the way he's telling that story. Well, that's the thing

859
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 1: that I'm so excited as we meet these people, because

860
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: even the small characters are played by these amazing people,

861
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: and that seems like a very Gilmore thing. It is,

862
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: what a funny guy. How do you feel about playing

863
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: baseball or softball? I guess it was yeah. I mean

864
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: I remember that day we we played far more softball

865
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: than ended up on screen. So yeah, it was fun.

866
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: And Kirk Kirk the heckler, the zero, so he referred

867
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: to us as zero Luke and zero zero Dean and

868
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: then he just ran away. Oh it's just classic that

869
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: he was just heckling the crap out of us. It

870
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: was so great. That was That was one of Kirk's

871
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: finer moments so far. I think I kept noticing there

872
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: was like a young girl. Extra. What's the other word

873
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: for extra? Um? Yeah's extra the right word. I don't

874
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: want to say the wrong word. But and she just

875
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: was so adorable and kept just a straight face. And

876
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: well he's doing that riving of you guys, and I'm like, God,

877
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: the thing is, what is Luke gonna do? I mean,

878
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: he's not gonna you know, he's not gonna assault him.

879
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: All right, that's it. I've had enough. And then looking

880
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: put a Richard Gilmore on him and grab him by

881
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: the lapel. Maybe does any any television moment last? We

882
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: haven't talked about that, Laura. I didn't show up to

883
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: do the paint at the diner just to do the sprucing.

884
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Yeah, we'll get to that,

885
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: but one minor and you know, you could you could

886
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: just set me straight on this. You could settle my

887
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: wagon on this one. He lives. I thought he lived

888
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: above the diner, I know, and he was walking, Yes,

889
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: why was walking in the early morning and opening up

890
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: the place? What does he have to come down and around?

891
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: But no, because later they definitely come through those stairs,

892
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, maybe who was Maybe it was an early

893
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: morning walk. Yeah, I don't know that they realized maybe

894
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: he was coming from laurelized house where he was in

895
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: the bushes. He's looking in the windows like anyway that

896
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: that's but I thought it worked for the scene for sure. Yeah,

897
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: but it's a good point for like actual correctness. But

898
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: maybe we don't we don't learn until later that because

899
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: really that stands out when Jess shows up, When Jess's

900
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: shows up, we really learned that they live upstairs, so

901
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: we will wait, Oh, this is probably another answer. The

902
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: fans already know and they're gonna shower me with emails like, dumbass,

903
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: we already know this, and don't you know this? And

904
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: Jesus do your research, your dumbass listen, I'm just watching

905
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: it for the first time. Can you please spare it's

906
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: a valid yeah, because if you've only watched the episodes

907
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 1: we've watched, we don't really know where he lives yet.

908
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: I think we're hindsight that we know later he lives

909
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: up there. So why the hell is he walking down

910
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: the side, walking on down the boulevard, keys swinging his keys?

911
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: Am I messing this? Upper? Was there a scene where

912
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 1: you were waiting for her and then at night? Yeah,

913
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: outside your own diner. That's very dramatic when you just

914
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 1: wait in the chair inside with a cup of corps,

915
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: because it gave me the opportunity to act this finality

916
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: of that moment and sort of go in and give

917
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: up and locked the door. So that was more important

918
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: than nosy continuity annoyers. You know. You know. Two questions.

919
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: Was she wearing I Love Lucy pajamas when she showed

920
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: up in the pajamas? Can we do a zoom in

921
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: on that. I'm pretty sure I caught a glimpse of Lucy.

922
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: And how did you feel when you realize she painted

923
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: the whole place? He had already figured out that they

924
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: had done the deed right, yes, because you already him

925
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: that in not such a direct way. But that was

926
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: when she was in the pajamas. He put two and

927
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: two together. That's a that's a tough one. I mean, yeah,

928
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: I recall really struggling with it because it's like, and

929
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you talk about being at the

930
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: bottom of of your feelings, they're in a situation. Mean,

931
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: good God, how devastating that you know he came back

932
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: and they slept together and he knew it, and it's

933
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 1: just yeah, it's rough because it was right as Luke

934
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: and Laura were having that that moment and then and

935
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: then he comes in. It's painted or halfway or three

936
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: quarters painted, and it's maybe all done. That's when you

937
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,479
Speaker 1: find out though, that Christopher is gone, because he said,

938
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: where's the guy? Yeah, I had to play all that stuff.

939
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: So it's like grief and devastation two acceptance too. It's

940
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: like I had to go through the five stages, but

941
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: it's like in reverse, like, hey, there's there's there's still

942
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: some hope here, I mean, poor guy. Yeah, So it's

943
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: Luke relieved to find out that Christopher has gone. Um, yeah,

944
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: for sure, but now he's got to deal with the

945
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: fact that she she went there with him, you know,

946
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: so there's that the residual effects of that that are

947
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: you known, have to clean up that mess because that's

948
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: going to psychologically be I mean, it's devastating. Yeah, it

949
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: don't take a while to get back to you know.

950
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: Now now I think it puts her on different footing

951
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, you know, this train was going

952
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: in in the right direction and it stopped and now

953
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: it's going backwards, and maybe it's the train is he's

954
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: taken out of service using a train analogy. I swear

955
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: I won't use a tunnel. There won't be a tunnel

956
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: on this analogy. She says when she's there in the pajamas,

957
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: we had a date, and Luke says, it wasn't a date,

958
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: it was it was just a thing. He's he's downplaying

959
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: it already. It wasn't he's doing that protection. Yeah, yeah,

960
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: I get why the walls are up. Luke has to

961
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: have the walls up because look at what keeps happening.

962
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: And I also think he's it's like, you know, he's judging.

963
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: He's being hard on himself too, because like, guy, get

964
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: in the fight, get in there and get with her,

965
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: close the deal. What do you know she's moving fast

966
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: with like all these guys, get in there, you know,

967
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: be meaningful in her life, be impactful. So it's like

968
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah, I'm sure he's hurt, but it's

969
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: I think it's really a wake up call. It's like,

970
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: this is life and it's moving a little faster. And

971
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: she's from Hartford and she's a country club check and

972
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: you know she wants more than I have. You know

973
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: that I have to offer maybe, so it's like, get

974
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: in there and fight for her. I also think there's

975
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: something to what you've said before about the risk it

976
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: puts because of the friendship. And I do think she

977
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: salvaged the friendship by sneaking in and painting the diner.

978
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: She maybe didn't the relationship part is still screwy, but

979
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: she definitely fixed the friendship by doing that. It's a

980
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: good point, you know what we didn't talk about too much,

981
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: and we did touch on it obviously with the declined

982
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: What is going on with Christopher acting like he's successful

983
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of alluding to that with Richard clearly were to

984
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: know that he's not successful because he couldn't even buy

985
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: the dictionary. Well, he's you know, he's getting older, right,

986
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: he's thirty two now, and he wants her back, like

987
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: he said, he he said, you're you're the girl. I said,

988
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: I've tried to date other girls and there's no magic,

989
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: and you're the magic and you're the one, and I

990
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: want you back. And that's why he couldn't wait, And

991
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: he waited the next day said I want to marry you.

992
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: So he's made up his mind. He's he's willing to

993
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: commit to that. But now it's like it's a different

994
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: equation as we've discussed. It's like, you know, how are

995
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: you going to provide? Can we trust you? I mean

996
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: it takes time. So he's treading water. He he really is.

997
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: And I think his his latest debacle in California. He's

998
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: hoping that she'll take him back and that Richard will

999
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: help him out. Yeah. So I think that was all

1000
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: an attempt to reconcile and have everybody forgive and let's

1001
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: come back as a family. And that was his sort

1002
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: of master plan, and it wasn't well thought through. I'm

1003
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: nervous for the next I didn't night dinner too, because

1004
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't see how you just bounce back from that

1005
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 1: hot mess. And wasn't it interesting how delighted the Gilmore's were, Richard,

1006
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how delighted that Christopher returned? They were

1007
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: so they were on their best manners. They were just

1008
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: energized like I have never seen them. Yeah, why do

1009
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: they love him so much? Because he's the right stock,

1010
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: he's the right d NA, he's he gets it. He's

1011
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: one of them, And no matter how much he's failed

1012
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: or screwed up, Richard still thinks that he can, you know,

1013
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: Richard can easily guide him and give him a job,

1014
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: his insurance and set him up for the future and

1015
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: save his daughter so that they can all come back

1016
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: to the country club and have celebrations and birthdays together,

1017
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: and you know, I have a normal life. I think

1018
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: they there's there's still hold onto the illusion that Laurela

1019
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: is going to come back and be the girl that

1020
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: they raised. Yeah, and Emily tried to defend Strobe in

1021
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: that kitchen scene with Rory, and then she just says

1022
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: he's an ass And you know that redeemed her a

1023
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: bit that scene. But you have to respect a little

1024
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: bit what Strobe had to say. It was his opportunity

1025
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: to get it off his chest because he's been thinking

1026
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: about it for sixteen years. You just cannot even Strobe

1027
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: could not predict that he wasn't he had That wasn't premeditated.

1028
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: It just came out of him. Yes, the inappropriateness though

1029
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: that Rory was there was probably what was so, but

1030
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. He couldn't control himself. He absolutely he

1031
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: probably wanted to and he probably discussed it with his wife,

1032
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: the Queen. Yes, she kept her mouth shut during that

1033
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: mass that she was getting ahead, but she did not

1034
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: look like she was looking forward to meeting to seeing Laurela.

1035
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: And right off the back lauraized making jokes and they're

1036
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: not they're not helping our out. They're just like you

1037
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: haven't changed at all having your Laurela. You know, this

1038
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: kind of thing. I think Strobs an ass like Stroub sucks.

1039
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: I want I appreciate your angle and wanting to sort

1040
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: of try to make sense of that. And then I

1041
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: just keep coming back to a lot of a lot

1042
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: of words we can't say on this show. One that

1043
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: starts with a d your father, you know, if I

1044
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: put that, you know, I put a lot into my son,

1045
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, and and to see him growing and learning

1046
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's a wonderful thing. And then at sixteen,

1047
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: if that was all derailed by a pregnancy, and then

1048
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: you still offered them the chance to, hey, you know,

1049
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: we'll support you. Why don't you get married and we'll

1050
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: support you and we'll and they decline that as well,

1051
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: decline um, you know, and then they go off on

1052
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: their own and and for the next sixteen years have

1053
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: these you know, these difficult lives, albeit you know, successful

1054
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: in their own what on their own right and that's

1055
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: maybe their path. But it's tough for Stroke, but it's

1056
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: tough for Richard, it's tough for Emily. It's oh my god,

1057
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: what they had and he was right. What do you

1058
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: know how humiliated we were in front of our friends

1059
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: and we still are. Families do have gross fights like that,

1060
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: They do expectations, and it seems like they were both

1061
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: only children, you know, I don't. I don't know that. Yeah,

1062
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: it's an only child you have. You have one child,

1063
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: you pour everything into her or him, and it doesn't

1064
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: work out. It's it's it's you don't have two or

1065
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: three other kids to lean on and go well, you know,

1066
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: and be practical about it and say, well, they're not

1067
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: all going to turn out, but if you have one,

1068
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: you expect that one too. I mean, you don't expect

1069
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: them to go off the rails like that. So I

1070
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: don't know, it's gonna take it can take me some

1071
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: time to recover from that scene. Yeah, I know, I

1072
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: was deeply I was. I'm telling you how I couldn't.

1073
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't get to sleep. I was tossing in turn,

1074
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: my wife kicked me, and then you know what's just

1075
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: said would you stop? Would you still? Did you tell

1076
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: her why? But it was Strobe's fault. I couldn't. She

1077
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: would have laughed in my face, she would go. And

1078
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: then it is painful when Lorelai goes into the office

1079
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: and Richard says, like, I defended it because it was

1080
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: my name, and it's like, Richard, that's a real thing.

1081
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: That's a real thing, the Gilmore name. There's so many

1082
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 1: little things in that scene too. Did you see Christopher's mother,

1083
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: Christopher your tie, your tie? Like three times your tie,

1084
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: your tie, just like different world they come from. It's

1085
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: a it's all etiquette school for President Bush. His face

1086
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: is too tiny for his head. I've never noticed that

1087
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: about any Bushes. I Oh, you know what I wanted

1088
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: to know what you thought is when Strobe says a

1089
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: blue collar position about Laurelai working at the hotel. Our

1090
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: son was bound for Princeton. Well, and she was top

1091
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: of her class, as Richard said, So she was bound

1092
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: for Harvard, Yale or Princeton, probably anywhere she wanted to go.

1093
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: It bothered me that the blue collar one. And and

1094
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: Strobe says, you seduced him. Yeah, Strobe, Yeah, it's just

1095
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: a dad who got his face rubbed in it for

1096
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: too long, and he's he little lost control. That's his

1097
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: whole life. His whole life blew up in front of

1098
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: his eyes. His kid, his kid blew up in front

1099
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: of his eyes. He never accepted it. He never. I mean,

1100
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. What kind of was

1101
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: it that Strobe and and the Hayden's and Christopher hadn't

1102
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: seen each other in sixteen years? I don't think so.

1103
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,959
Speaker 1: I think he's seen that, he's seen them. It wasn't

1104
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: like that. It's strange that they have no relationship with Rory. Well,

1105
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: it looks like she hasn't really lost out too much

1106
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: love and affection from Strobe and company. Yeah, I mean,

1107
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: I do think you could argue, but I think Richard

1108
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: and Emily are good grandparents. Yeah, they're trying. Strobe makes

1109
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: the Gilmore's, Strobe and his wife make the Gilmore's look

1110
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: like amazing, wonderful people. I mean, they took it to

1111
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: a new level of yuck. Listen, this happened in my family.

1112
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean not to get too personally here, but this this,

1113
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: I understand the resentment this breeds. Um My. My father,

1114
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, came from a long line of Harvard men.

1115
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: He really did. And you know, his his family tree

1116
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: goes back to the signers of the Constitution and the

1117
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: signers a Declaration Independence, and you know all of that stuff.

1118
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they're blue blood like you wouldn't believe. And

1119
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: he was My dad was the first Patterson male not

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01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: to go to Harvard. He ended up going to World

1121
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: War Two, getting wounded and then going to Lafayette because

1122
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: he had to stay near Philadelphia, where his family was,

1123
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: because he had met my mother at eighteen, she got pregnant.

1124
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: He was twenty one, and they had they had, you know,

1125
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 1: he had to go to work. He went to college

1126
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: on the g I bill, and afterwards he went to

1127
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: work for Campbell sup in the area. He couldn't go

1128
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: off to Harvard. He couldn't go off to do the

1129
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: things that is. And he wasn't an only child a sister. Um.

1130
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: But I know what we went through as children, and

1131
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: I know what my mom went through in the face

1132
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: of these people because they saw her as is somehow

1133
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: illegitimate and the person that ruined their son's life, who

1134
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: had so much promise, and you know, he ended up

1135
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: being a vice president of some very prestigious advertising agencies.

1136
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: So he did pretty well. Did your grandparents forgives him? Um? Yeah.

1137
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: He remained close with both of them till they both passed. Yeah,

1138
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: I think they did, but they never forgave her, and

1139
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: they certainly, you know, kept us at arm's length. Yeah. Really,

1140
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: so I lived this, I know what this breeding and

1141
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: they and there were huge arguments Thanksgiving dinner at Christmas

1142
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: because we would go over there twice a year for

1143
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner and Christmas dinner. And my mother was very

1144
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: liberal and my dad's side of the family was not,

1145
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: and they would argue over the Vietnam War and Nixon

1146
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: and this, and I mean, and my mother would just

1147
01:07:55,720 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: pound her fist on the table. And one one year, Um,

1148
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, she she said, we're leaving, Get up, we're gone,

1149
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: and we just wanked. So the takeaway is that scene,

1150
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: like you said, is accurate, shockingly accurate. Yeah. You know,

1151
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: that's probably why I bothered you so much. It really

1152
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: did it, it really really. I get that my dad

1153
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: was Christopher. Yeah that's painful, but he turned out a

1154
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: lot better than you know what I mean. I mean,

1155
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't well, give Christopher a chance, right, But I mean,

1156
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't this loser. My dad was a superstar, you

1157
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean? He was a superstar and his

1158
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: chosen profession. Um. But yeah, no, it resonated quite quite deeply. Wow,

1159
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: that kind of hits me. That's why you tossed and turned. Yeah,

1160
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: I was, I guess I was. I was rory and weird,

1161
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: weird right. Yeah, I'm Riley and this is your pop

1162
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: culture for the episode fifteen. First off, we have Laura

1163
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: Lae It's been cold pop tarts for a week. It's

1164
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: like a damn Dickens novel. And this is when she's

1165
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: talking to Suki about how things are going at home

1166
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: with Christopher Scott. We all had a ten twenty minute

1167
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: argument over this line yesterday as we were preparing to

1168
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: do the show. The pop Tarts say it one more time, Riley,

1169
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: because I still am like get it. Laura Lee says,

1170
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: it's been cold pop tarts for a week, It's like

1171
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: a damn Dickens novel. When the when the boy asked

1172
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: for more porridge? Is that okay? So Riley was right. Yeah,

1173
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: it's like rationing. Please see I abstable. So. Charles Dickens

1174
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: was an English writer and social critic. He is known

1175
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: as a novelist of the Victorian era. Dickens was an outspoken,

1176
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: outspoken social critics in general, but especially about poverty. Charles

1177
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: saved multiple lives of friends and strangers after a train

1178
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: crash and interesting fact, Dickens had pet ravens and kept

1179
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: them around even after they died. Wow, so you know

1180
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: I used to keep around my dead snakes after they die.

1181
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: I had snakes when I was a kid, and they

1182
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: would die and I keep them in the aquarium and

1183
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: I would deny that they were and then my mom

1184
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:27,839
Speaker 1: would say, you need to put them in a shoebox

1185
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: and bury him. Son said, okay, mom, Oh no, anyway,

1186
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: go ahead, Sorry, okay. Christopher says, well, I know you

1187
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 1: well enough to know that when you say no to coffee,

1188
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: especially in the morning, all is not right in Whoville.

1189
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: Whoville is a fictional town created by author Dr Seuss

1190
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: and how It grinch Stool Christmas Taylor Momson, who stars

1191
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: as Cindy lou Who and later goes on to play

1192
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: Jenny Humphrey in the hit series Gossip Girl. She she

1193
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: was a Wholl, She was a Who, and Whoville. She

1194
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: was the main who Dr SEUs has written and published

1195
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: over sixty books. And actually Dr Seus's friend bet that

1196
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: he could not write a book with just fifty different words,

1197
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: and that is how Green Eggs and Hand was born.

1198
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: All was not right in who failed? That was a

1199
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: nice that made sense. We also have another Christopher line

1200
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: and and you were the girl in the Pinky Tuscadero

1201
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: t shirt sitting right next to me and this is

1202
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: when they're sitting on the couch. So Pinky is a

1203
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: character from Happy Days and is the love interest to Fonzie.

1204
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: Pinky is played by actress Roz Kelly and Ross is

1205
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: also known for her roles in Star Ski and Hutch

1206
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: and The Dukes of Hazzard. Ros was sadly written off

1207
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: the series just after just three episodes, and she just

1208
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: never jelled with the cast. After Pinky Tusca Darrow left

1209
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: the show in season four, her younger sister, Leather Tuscadero,

1210
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 1: played by Susie Quatro, was on the show for a

1211
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 1: total seven episodes. In the Leather, Leather Tuscandero was way

1212
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: more my speed than Pink, get Leather was legit, Quatro

1213
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: had a couple of hits. Take a take a little

1214
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: download Susie Quatro. Yeah, that was legit. So we all

1215
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: loved Kirk's heckling. Kirk says, I'm dumbing it down for

1216
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: ulf That was the best line of the episode, by

1217
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: the way. So the original Falfa was played by Carl

1218
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: Dean Sweitzer from ninety nine. Alfalfa had a signature hairstyle.

1219
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: His hair was always slicked down, parted in the middle

1220
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: in a pointed piece of hair was sticking straight up. Ye, Laura,

1221
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: I says, my father almost hit someone. My father has

1222
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: probably only hit another man in college wearing boxing gloves

1223
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: and one of those Fred Murts pulled in gloves, pulled

1224
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: pull over sweatshirt. Um. William Frawley played the character of

1225
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: Fred Murtz in the fifties TV series I Love Lucy.

1226
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: Probably earned five consecutive Emmy nominations from nineteen fifty three

1227
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: to ninety seven. Sadly he never won. At least he

1228
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: got nominated. Geez, five years. Nothing can't be crying in

1229
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: his beer he got He went to the party five times, Kidney,

1230
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry for him, not one bit. William

1231
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 1: had somewhat of a bad reputation as early as Fraley

1232
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: had been fired from the Broadway show That's My Baby

1233
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: for punching actor Clifton Webb in the nose. People were

1234
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: different back then. It was a different times. Men punched

1235
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: other men, and the men didn't cry about it and

1236
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: call the cops. They just took the shot. Laura I says,

1237
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: that's not true. If Tony Randall could crank one out

1238
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: in his seventies, you have decades left to spawn. He

1239
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: actually cranked two out in his seventies, if memory serves well.

1240
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: His the first time he ever had a child with

1241
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 1: age any seven and then didn't he have an he

1242
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: had another one? He never he was married. Tony Randall

1243
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 1: was married to his first wife for like fifty years,

1244
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: and then I think she died. And then he married

1245
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: a twenty He was seventy something and he married a

1246
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 1: twenty five year old and they had two kids. I think, Yeah,

1247
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: the age gap was fifty years. He was seventy And

1248
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: why did they have to talk about I guess he

1249
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: did all the talking cranking him out, that's what they Yeah. Well.

1250
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: Tony Randall was a comedic actor, best known for playing

1251
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: Felix Unger on the nineteen seventy sitcom The Odd Couple,

1252
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: which they were not couple, so it's very fitting. Next,

1253
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: Richard says, I'm a Chuck berryman myself. Yes, Chuck Berry.

1254
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: He was all the rage when I was in school.

1255
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: So Chuck Berry was one of the most influential rock

1256
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 1: and roll performers in music history. He's known for songs

1257
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: including Mabeline and Johnny Be Good and Just Spite, an

1258
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: impressive catalog of cleverly written songs. My Daggling was Barry's

1259
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: number one hit single. The song tells of how the

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Speaker 1: singer received a toy consisting of silver bells hanging on

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Speaker 1: a string from his grandmother, who called them a dinggling,

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Speaker 1: but the lyrics, with their sly tone and innuendo, caused

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Speaker 1: many radio stations to refuse to play it. I Love

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Speaker 1: I Love my Dagling. It was a hit. That's all

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Speaker 1: we have for bob culture and dingling. Excellent, excellent. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to get my favorite line, even though you've

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Speaker 1: start my favorite Kirk's I'm dumbing it down for you, Alfalfa.

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Speaker 1: That's the best, the best, the best. But did you

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Speaker 1: just Curtesy shut up? Sorry, my lady Laura La. Although

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Speaker 1: coincidentally I'm sitting across from an amazing Christopher Legram. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What are we watching next? What's next? Our next episode

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Speaker 1: is episode sixteen. Star Cross Lovers and other strangers are

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Speaker 1: at episode sixteen already. Yeah. Really, we're jamming through season one. Alright, kiddos.

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Speaker 1: On that note, on that family friendly note, uh, what

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Speaker 1: we bid you a du It's been another rollicking roller

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Speaker 1: coaster ride off the podcast. Um, we'll see you next time.

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Speaker 1: I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All

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