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Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: Tie Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is Ty Hildenbrandt. That fine gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: As always over there the heart of the Midwest.

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Speaker 1: First day of spring were this no March the twentieth, sir,

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Speaker 1: welcome back.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm in the shadow of like thirteen degree weather,

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Speaker 1: Ty, Well, we're starting to do here on the show

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Speaker 3: Where are the.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about this.

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Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people tell me, and I'm

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Speaker 5: This is your life, this is your livelihood. Let me

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Speaker 5: that's a whole different world. Yes, And by the way,

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Speaker 1: One the Only Ryan Abraham, Sir, how you doing?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing okay. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: We're doing all right. It's it's great to have you back.

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Speaker 6: But the I.

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Speaker 1: What's your biggest question for Alex Grinch if you had

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Speaker 7: Ryan, Yeah, the turnovers were a big you know, that

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Speaker 6: Make the tackle.

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Speaker 7: To me, that's more of a saying like, hey, I

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Speaker 5: One of the things that's interesting you bring that up.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think Lincoln Riley's vision was to not

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Speaker 7: Hey, you know, this team did win eleven games and

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Speaker 1: You can, Ryan, USC had the top rated offense per

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Speaker 1: the sp plus last season, as you mentioned earlier. Look,

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Speaker 1: we know Lincoln Rilly can coach offense. If there's anything

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley can do, it's coach offense. So maybe not

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Speaker 1: a great surprise, But.

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Speaker 5: Where the hell out of avisor Tie?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where's the hell out of Advisor?

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Speaker 1: And clearly is enjoying the warm weather of southern California.

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Speaker 1: So all these things I think we know to be true.

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious from your standpoint, Ryan, how much of

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Speaker 1: what we saw last season from that offense was clever

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Speaker 1: play design and clever schematics versus an exceptional talent, a

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Speaker 1: Heisman caliber talent in Caleb Williams running around behind the

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Speaker 1: line creating hero plays, playing hero ball.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think if you just looked at the twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty two USC offense in a you know, in a vacuum,

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Speaker 7: you could say this was Caleb Williams, like he just

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Speaker 7: went off and you know, he lost top receivers from

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Speaker 7: time to time and would other guys would fill in.

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Speaker 7: You've seen multiple guys have you know, huge receiving games

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Speaker 7: where a guy like cal Ford is not even with

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Speaker 7: the program anymore, has a monster game and then he

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Speaker 7: doesn't do anything for a while. Or Brendan Rice, who's

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Speaker 7: the transfer from Colorado, has like a you know, huge

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Speaker 7: game here and doesn't show up there.

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Speaker 6: He sort of was able to do it with no

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Speaker 6: matter who was out.

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Speaker 7: There at the wide receiver spot or if they had

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Speaker 7: running backs banged up. But looking at the whole track record,

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Speaker 7: I think Lincoln Riley's proven that he's probably a big

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Speaker 7: part of why all of this is working, you know,

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Speaker 7: And the fact that he's had as many Heisman winners

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Speaker 7: and Heisman finalists as he's had, I think, and with

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Speaker 7: guys that have different skill sets, I think it shows

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Speaker 7: a lot.

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Speaker 6: And for him to come in and all the things.

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Speaker 7: That he did have to fix when he was at

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Speaker 7: USC that wasn't just things were on the field, off

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Speaker 7: the field, whatever it was the perception, and there was

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Speaker 7: a lot of problems that he had on his sheet.

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Speaker 7: He said he had like six pages of notes or whatever,

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Speaker 7: I forget what it was, and some crazy amount of notes.

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Speaker 6: He normally has like one or two pages of things

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Speaker 6: to focus on.

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Speaker 7: It was like a lot, But I think he did

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Speaker 7: a good job of, you know, putting the guys in

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Speaker 7: a good place and allowing a guy like Caleb Williams

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Speaker 7: that have so much talent to you know, look for

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Speaker 7: the first couple of reads and if things do break

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Speaker 7: down or if the offensive line isn't you know, playing

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Speaker 7: as well as they should be, he's able to go

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Speaker 7: off off script and make some sort of play down feeling.

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Speaker 7: The last time you saw something like that when Sam

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Speaker 7: Donald was at USC, I really felt like that was

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Speaker 7: an offensive just the plays never really worked and Sam

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Speaker 7: Donald just sort of took off and made things happen.

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Speaker 7: I feel like the plays had a good chance of working,

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Speaker 7: and if they didn't, Caleb Williams could go off and

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Speaker 7: make things happen.

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Speaker 6: So it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 7: I think with Donald it was just more about he

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Speaker 7: was just special and he made everything work. I feel

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Speaker 7: like you had It's sort of like you know, doubling

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Speaker 7: down when you have eleven and the dealer has a six,

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Speaker 7: like the play might work, but also you know, hopefully

503
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Speaker 7: the dealer bus and Caleb just makes a play.

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Speaker 3: What needs to get better on offense?

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Speaker 7: You know, I think this year it's going to be

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Speaker 7: on the offensive line. They one of the things that

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Speaker 7: Lincoln Riley didn't realize was how you know, good of

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Speaker 7: a veteran.

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Speaker 6: Group he had last year.

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Speaker 7: So losing a guy like Andrew Voorhees and Brett Elon Uh,

511
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Speaker 7: they bring back Justin Dida Twitch helps, but they had

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Speaker 7: some really good veteran leadership on that that offensive line,

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Speaker 7: and they didn't have a lot of depth. They didn't

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Speaker 7: have great high school recruiting from the lineman like you

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Speaker 7: had mentioned, you know, for the last few years. Now

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Speaker 7: this year they bring in like five you know, freshmen,

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Speaker 7: and they brought in three more transfers. So they're going

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Speaker 7: to have some guys that they're going to move around

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Speaker 7: for some more veteran leadership. But they're going to have

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Speaker 7: to make that work because it's a different looking line,

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Speaker 7: a lot different than it was last year. And even though,

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Speaker 7: when guys got banged up last year late in the season,

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Speaker 7: the offensive line struggled, and I think you needed to

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Speaker 7: see Caleb Williams kind of do more with his legs.

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Speaker 7: When they were all together, it was actually a pretty

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Speaker 7: well performing offensive line. So to get back to that

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Speaker 7: stage or so at least you're not going to take

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Speaker 7: a step back on the offensive line, I think that's

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Speaker 7: going to be the biggest aspect of it.

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Speaker 6: Making these guys work.

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Speaker 7: They bring in some talent, a couple guys from Florida,

532
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Speaker 7: started from Washington State. You know where those guys going

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Speaker 7: to play. But you got to make them all work together.

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Speaker 7: Like the cliche is, you know, it's like five fingers

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Speaker 7: on a hand. So getting those guys that kind of

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Speaker 7: all play together and protect Cayleb Williams.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's a proven guy. He won the Heismoot Trophy.

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Speaker 7: Just don't let him get sacked a whole the time,

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Speaker 7: and you're probably gonna be okay, Sure, who do.

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Speaker 5: You anticipate being the names on offense? Obviously losing a

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Speaker 5: couple of big ones Travis Dye and Jordan Addison to

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Speaker 5: the next level and running out of eligibility. Who do

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Speaker 5: you expect to be the the players that take on

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Speaker 5: that workload as as the offense takes the next step.

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Speaker 7: You know, I like what Austin Jones was able to do.

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Speaker 7: He's going to be a senior this year. The transfer

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Speaker 7: from Stanford. But there's a lot of people high on

548
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Speaker 7: Marshaun Lloyd, the transfer in from South Carolina. And you know,

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Speaker 7: Rayley Brown showed a lot of flash last year as

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Speaker 7: a five star freshman running back. So I'm not sure

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Speaker 7: how loud that we're going to do on the running

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Speaker 7: back spot, but I think you're going to see kind

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Speaker 7: of a combination of those guys. And you know, a

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Speaker 7: guy like Taj Washington who transferred in a couple of

555
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Speaker 7: years ago from from Memphis has you know, he would

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Speaker 7: have flashes of some really great games. And we saw

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Speaker 7: Brendan Rice have a Monster Bowl game. You know, Dorian

558
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Speaker 7: Singer that you know, he was in number two receiver

559
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Speaker 7: at Arizona in the Pac twelve last year is transferring

560
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Speaker 7: in from Arizona, and they love zachar Ya Branch, the

561
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Speaker 7: five star freshmen coming in. So I again, I feel

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Speaker 7: like there's gonna be, you know, some good spots at

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Speaker 7: the wide receiver spot at running back. They didn't really

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Speaker 7: do a lot at tight end, so you know see

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Speaker 7: kind of what they can do you know, on there.

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Speaker 7: But they Linke McCree should be back healthy and he's

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Speaker 7: someone that they people feel have a lot of upside.

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Speaker 7: But I think it's just going to be more of

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Speaker 7: kind of a spreading it around. I don't know if

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Speaker 7: they're going to establish like a clear number one guy

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Speaker 7: like when you had Addison when he was healthy last year.

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Speaker 6: I think he was that guy.

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Speaker 7: But if they can keep spreading around and keep defenses

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Speaker 7: kind of guessing, I you know, that's probably the way

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Speaker 7: they're going to go. I think the one change is

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Speaker 7: going to be they're probably going to try to get

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Speaker 7: you know, the tight ends involved more. They just you know,

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Speaker 7: they would get an occasional touchdown here or there, but

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Speaker 7: they just weren't a consistent part of the offense last year.

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Speaker 5: I'm wondering where is Lincoln Riley's had, where is the

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Speaker 5: USC programs had in terms of the Big Ten? And

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Speaker 5: obviously you don't just build for what you want to be,

583
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Speaker 5: but you build for who you're playing against as well.

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Speaker 5: And it looks like the top of the Big Ten

585
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Speaker 5: is going to be a very different style than what

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Speaker 5: the Pac twelve has offered USC these past few years.

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Speaker 5: Whether it's you know, I guess New Look Wisconsin, but

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Speaker 5: Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State. Right, this is these are

589
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Speaker 5: a lot of teams that put a lot of players

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Speaker 5: into the NFL along the trenches. Is there any eye

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Speaker 5: towards future opponents of USC in terms of where recruiting

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Speaker 5: is focused, where the offense or defensive scheme is focused.

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Speaker 5: Is there that I yet?

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Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting that you know, most of the

595
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Speaker 7: focus is on now obviously, but we've heard we've heard

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Speaker 7: that every once inle like you'd see someone like, you know,

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Speaker 7: in the Big Ten just maybe would drop that as

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Speaker 7: like sort of like a hint of what's the common

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Speaker 7: I think it's sort of where you've you know, alluded to,

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Speaker 7: is that they have to get better in the trenches

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Speaker 7: and it's just going to be a different and style

602
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Speaker 7: of football most of the way across in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 7: And no one's come out and just said, you know, hey,

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Speaker 7: we really need to do this for you know, because

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Speaker 7: of Big Ten purpose. I think you want to do

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Speaker 7: that anyway, just to be a if you want to

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Speaker 7: be a nationally competitive program, not just nationally relevant like

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Speaker 7: they become you need to get better in the trenches.

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Speaker 7: But I feel like that's where a lot of the

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Speaker 7: focus is. That they've been able to get skill guys,

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Speaker 7: and you know, you can you know, clayh Helton brought

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Speaker 7: in great skill guys, but to get elite, you know,

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Speaker 7: linemen on both sides of the ball, I think the

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Speaker 7: team has to be, you know, performing at another level.

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Speaker 7: And I feel like that's where the focus is going

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Speaker 7: to be going forward. And it's been little hints though,

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Speaker 7: Dan about people kind of mentioned in that, but I

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Speaker 7: don't have any doubt from the people you talk to

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Speaker 7: behind the scenes that they know that that's something that

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Speaker 7: if you want to be competitive in a conference like that,

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Speaker 7: and then you know, going on and trying to be

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Speaker 7: competitive in the college football playoffs with us he's never

623
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Speaker 7: made before.

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Speaker 6: You got to be better on the lines. There's just

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Speaker 6: no question about it. Ran.

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Speaker 1: How excited are you to visit Chicago in the winter?

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Speaker 5: Ryan's from Big ten country, He's from PA.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: When I would yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I know. I came out here to get away from

631
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Speaker 6: all that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, USC fans get a little dose of that when

633
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Speaker 7: they go to you know, South Bend. Well, they mostly

634
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Speaker 7: go to Chicago, but that's in October. I mean, if

635
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Speaker 7: they're going to be a Minneapolis trip in November, like

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Speaker 7: that could be.

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Speaker 6: Icy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the question is going to be, like,

639
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Speaker 7: we don't know what this schedule is going to be,

640
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Speaker 7: like what the Big ten is going to want to do.

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Speaker 7: But if you want some sort of mutually beneficial you know,

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00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 7: like Notre Dame in USC, they make it so Notre

643
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Speaker 7: Dame comes to Los Angeles in November and USC goes

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Speaker 7: to South Bend in October. If you're you know, from Minnesota,

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Speaker 7: you'd probably rather be in LA in November if you could.

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Speaker 7: And so maybe USC has more November home games than

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Speaker 7: normal and maybe more road games in September October.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious to see what they do with all that.

649
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Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, if you're in Wisconsin you want

650
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Speaker 7: to come to southern California, it probably makes sense if

651
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 7: you'd rather do it November than September when it's warm

652
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Speaker 7: where you are too. So I'm curious to see how

653
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Speaker 7: it is. But there's gonna be a lot of trips.

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Speaker 7: I got to you know, you got to increase the

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Speaker 7: travel budget. Now it's going to be a little bit

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Speaker 7: different while doing that.

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Speaker 1: What's the reaction been among the USC base. Because of

658
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Speaker 1: the USC people, USC fans, super fans that I know

659
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Speaker 1: here in.

660
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Speaker 3: PA, they're thrilled, they love it.

661
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Speaker 1: But my hunch is that people who are in California

662
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Speaker 1: maybe feel differently, maybe because of weather considerations or I

663
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Speaker 1: don't know, more travel. We're like, nobody could tell the

664
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Speaker 1: temperature of the fan base better than you where people

665
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Speaker 1: at with this.

666
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Speaker 6: It's funny.

667
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Speaker 7: In the beginning, it was pretty fifty to fifty and

668
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Speaker 7: I thought they would be overwhelming, like, you know, enthusiasm

669
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 7: about this, and then it sort of shifted and I

670
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 7: feel like there's a lot of USC fans that feel

671
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 7: like the Pac twelve never had their back when the

672
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 7: Reggie Bush sanctions and all that stuff was going on,

673
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 7: and they felt like they were, you know, carrying the

674
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Speaker 7: torch for the conference for years and weren't you know,

675
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 7: didn't really get anything out of it. And then they're

676
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 7: sort of like, hey, look now, you know, now we're

677
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Speaker 7: taking off.

678
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Speaker 6: To do this.

679
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Speaker 7: I think because it's such a football focus, that's why

680
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Speaker 7: a lot of the fans are on board. I think

681
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Speaker 7: more so than UCLA fans that I talked to that

682
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Speaker 7: USC fans for the most part, are kind of happy

683
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Speaker 7: about the way this is going. I feel like though,

684
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Speaker 7: if you're a fan of you know, like the the

685
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 7: volleyball teams and stuff like, man, it's good. I think

686
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 7: it's gonna be tough, you know, uh, you know, but

687
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Speaker 7: I think the focus for the football fans has been

688
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Speaker 7: mostly positive after kind of an initial of like there's

689
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Speaker 7: there's there's old school fans that don't want to lose

690
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Speaker 7: the rivalries with like cal and Stanford, you know, and

691
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Speaker 7: even you know playing you know the stuff with like

692
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Speaker 7: Utah or Oregon or Washington. There's just a lot of

693
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 7: history there that the fans don't really want to get

694
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Speaker 7: rid of. But they're excited about playing some of the

695
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Speaker 7: brands I think in the Big Ten as well.

696
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Speaker 6: And you know, the fact that UCLA will be there.

697
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Speaker 7: I think it's it's not like a Texas Texas, Texas

698
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 7: A and M thing where you're kind of getting split up.

699
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Speaker 7: At least you have your your dance partner for it.

700
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Speaker 7: But you know, and and the question would be, you know,

701
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 7: it would be better if there was sort of a

702
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Speaker 7: West coast pod, like if an Oregon in Washington were involved.

703
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Speaker 7: But there's also the USC fans that that really hate

704
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Speaker 7: Oregon for all the success that they've had recently, and

705
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Speaker 7: it'd rather leave them behind. So there's kind of, you know,

706
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Speaker 7: it's sort of a mixed bag. But for the most days.

707
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Speaker 7: Of course, for the most part, I think most of

708
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Speaker 7: the fans are really happy about this, after initially maybe

709
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Speaker 7: being more of a coin flip kind of thing.

710
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Speaker 1: Where yet does it make you said, yeah, let's hear

711
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Speaker 1: the Ryan abrahead where are you at?

712
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Speaker 6: Well?

713
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Speaker 7: I mean I do the podcast the Champions too, like

714
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Speaker 7: David Woods and I so he's the UCLA guy.

715
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Speaker 6: We've that's been mebe six or seven years.

716
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 7: We've done a pack to a podcast, and I've loved it,

717
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 7: Like it's helped me cover USC because all the play

718
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 7: all the teams that USC plays, I now have more

719
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 7: deep intimate knowledge of and I got to talk to

720
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Speaker 7: reporters from those markets, and I don't want to see

721
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Speaker 7: that split up. But obviously something's going to have to

722
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Speaker 7: change with with all of that. So as a collegeortaball

723
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Speaker 7: fan and just as a you know, just you know,

724
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Speaker 7: doing my job. I think it's I'm kind of sad

725
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 7: about it, you know, I don't want to see the

726
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Speaker 7: West Coast sort of break up like it is. But

727
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Speaker 7: I think, you know, as a business person, like it's

728
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Speaker 7: you know, I'm going to lose something on the Pac

729
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Speaker 7: twelve side, But my main business is USC and I

730
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Speaker 7: feel like, just from what's happened in the last year

731
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Speaker 7: and a half, it's probably going to be a good

732
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Speaker 7: thing for business. You know, playing Michigan and Ohio State

733
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Speaker 7: and Wisconsin and Penn State all the time, I feel

734
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Speaker 7: like it's going to be you know, a positive there.

735
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Speaker 7: So college football changes a lot. I you know, I

736
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 7: love the tradition of it, so it kind of makes me.

737
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Speaker 7: It definitely makes me sad to see something like that change.

738
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Speaker 7: But going forward, I mean, I feel like it's going

739
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Speaker 7: to be you know, a benefit for USC football dot

740
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Speaker 7: Com and everything. But it's it's not something I would

741
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Speaker 7: have picked.

742
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Speaker 3: I guess you could say, yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

743
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Speaker 5: Which Big ten destination should expect the biggest influx of

744
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 5: traveling Trojan fans? Where is the enthusiasm, where's the road enthusiasm?

745
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 5: Is it the Big House? Is it the shoe is

746
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Speaker 5: a Penn State? Is it Wisconsin? Where?

747
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Speaker 6: Where?

748
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Speaker 5: Who should it expect the interlopers from l A.

749
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Speaker 6: Oh, that's a good one, I would say.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think Columbus as far as like how

751
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 7: you know USC fans remember like when Matt Barkley and

752
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 7: Joe McKnight went there and with two thousand and nine

753
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 7: or whatever, And it's not as hard to get to

754
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Speaker 7: as some of the other spots, like no offense time.

755
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Speaker 6: You know, Penn State not exactly.

756
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Speaker 5: Sure, Oh my god, Penn State. I am the worst

757
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: in America. I am Ryan. How dare you? And he

758
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Speaker 5: also agrees, by the way, but I've been But.

759
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Speaker 7: I think for me personally, I've never been to the

760
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Speaker 7: Big House. I would love to do that. I want

761
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Speaker 7: to go check that out. But I the there's just this,

762
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Speaker 7: you know, this USC Ohio State thing. I I don't

763
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Speaker 7: know how they're going to pair everything up. I feel

764
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Speaker 7: like USC Ohio State are gonna get paired up somehow,

765
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Speaker 7: like that's gonna have to be a thing. And the

766
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Speaker 7: fact that US Ohio State canceled their Washington game for

767
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, my guess is they're coming to the

768
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Speaker 7: Coliseum in twenty twenty four, you know.

769
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Speaker 6: And that'll be crazy year.

770
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Speaker 7: USC starts with LSU and and Lost Vegas potentially has

771
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Speaker 7: like you know, and he has Notre Dame, and then

772
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Speaker 7: you might have Ohio State in the colosseum. But I

773
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Speaker 7: feel like the Columbus one will be a big one,

774
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Speaker 7: you know, Michigan, Ohio State, you know, at Penn State's

775
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 7: big as far as it's like environment, like going to Madison,

776
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Speaker 7: I think is going to be, you know, amazing, but

777
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Speaker 7: I think it's it'd be hard not to say Ohio

778
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Speaker 7: State at this point.

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Speaker 5: I want to finish this out just staying in your

780
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Speaker 5: backyard in LA. And this is since you mentioned that

781
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Speaker 5: you spend you know, a good chunk of time with

782
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Speaker 5: Lincoln Riley. I don't know how to phrase this correctly,

783
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 5: but is Lincoln Riley sort of getting more comfortable in

784
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Speaker 5: his own skin as the USC coach as you know,

785
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: a southern California resident, you know, he doesn't have the

786
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: history out west, you know, the entirety of his time

787
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 5: as a coach has been you know, Midwest East coast.

788
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: Does does he seem to be adapting I would say

789
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: to a pretty different way of living out west yeah.

790
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Speaker 7: I think as far as his adaptation goes, I feel

791
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Speaker 7: like he sort of raced it early. I mean, he's

792
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 7: got young kids and a wife, and they're like, oh,

793
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 7: we have the ocean and Disneyland and they're pretty I

794
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 7: think they're like buying. It's like you're on vacation, you know,

795
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 7: and a bunch of the coaches, you know. I talked

796
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 7: to Benny Wiley, the strength and conditioning coach sometimes. You know,

797
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 7: he posts on his Instagram all the time about like

798
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 7: live where people go on vacation. It's like, okay, that

799
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 7: makes sense, you know. And but for for Lincoln I

800
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 7: think he's one of this is now, you know, his

801
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 7: second time being a head coach, and I think the

802
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 7: first time when he was Oklahoma, obviously you get to

803
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 7: learn from, you know, one of the greats of all

804
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 7: time and Bob Stoops. It was a you know, pretty

805
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 7: closed program and I talked to media members that were covering.

806
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 6: There just wasn't a lot of access.

807
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 7: You never talked to assistant coaches, and USC was the

808
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 7: kind of the other opposite, you know, opposite end of that.

809
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 6: And I feel like he's adapted what.

810
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 7: He would normally do to you know, kind of USC's

811
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 7: waves where there's more open, we get to talk to

812
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 7: more assistant coaches, you can watch a little bit more practice.

813
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 7: It's still more close than it was before, but it's

814
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 7: I think he's adapted that to, Hey, we're in Los Angeles,

815
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 7: you're not We're not the only game in town. There's

816
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 7: you know, Caleb Williams won the Hydrotrophy. He's probably not

817
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 7: top fifteen sports stars in the city, right, Like, I

818
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 7: don't know, what would you say, you know, he's not

819
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 7: bigger than Lebron James or Why Leonard or things like that,

820
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 7: So like it's that's different. So I think he's adapted

821
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 7: to sort of the differences of being in a major

822
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Speaker 7: pro sports town. Uh, you know where Mike Trout is

823
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 7: walking around versus you know where you're in Norman, Oklahoma.

824
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 6: But I think the thing that he embraced the most

825
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 6: was you.

826
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Speaker 7: Have he can go to a restaurant and he's just

827
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 7: a guy and he's like everyone's dropped, you know, like

828
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 7: coming over and you'll get that. But I feel like

829
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 7: he feels like he can be more of a human

830
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 7: being in Los Angeles, where it's you're not under this microscope.

831
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Speaker 7: I don't think he's the most comfortable just being in

832
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 7: the spotlight all the time.

833
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 6: I think he's handled it pretty well.

834
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 7: But he can go about him and his family can

835
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 7: go about living their lives and not feel like everyone

836
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 7: that's going to come up to you and want to

837
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 7: say something. I think Caleb Williams had a thing before

838
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 7: he won the Heisman. He was like out the dinner

839
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 7: at some nice restaurant and there's like Rihanna's in there,

840
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 7: so like no one's coming over to him to say hi,

841
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 7: Like they're going over to that. So I think that's

842
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: one thing that they've kind of adapted to, uh, you know,

843
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 7: fairly quickly because it's you are. It's just a much

844
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 7: bigger pond, So you're not the hugest fish in a

845
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 7: small pond. People still know who you are, and but

846
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 7: it's not going to be the same as if you were.

847
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 7: You know, you're you're not an A list celebrity here

848
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 7: like you would be, and maybe more of a college town.

849
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 5: On the flip side, how is USC adapted to Lincoln

850
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 5: Riley and Lincoln Riley's what I assume to be expectations

851
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 5: and visions of a major national football program. I think

852
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 5: the last time you were on, we talked about it

853
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 5: where it's USC has a tough time competing with hiring analysts, hiring,

854
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 5: recruiting personnel, hiring nutrition, you know, overhauling facilities, just because

855
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: the cost of construction in LA, the price of the

856
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 5: cost of living in LA. You know, if you know

857
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 5: Texas A and M is going to pay a staff

858
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: for sixty thousand dollars, you just can't get away with

859
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 5: that at USC. It's not competitive given the cost of

860
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 5: living in LA. Has there been investment either thanks to boosters,

861
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 5: thanks to administration, thanks to the anticipation of Big ten money.

862
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 5: Are there dollars pouring into the USC program to compete

863
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 5: behind the scenes with Georgia, Florida, Texas, Ohio, State, Oregon,

864
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 5: all of these places that are able to have these huge, huge,

865
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 5: you know, program infrastructure budgets.

866
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's definitely been an increase in their budgets in

867
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 7: the athletic de pariment. I think when Mike Bone took

868
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 7: over a few years ago, and you know, there was

869
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 7: a lot of criticism about why aren't you firing Clailton today?

870
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 6: A lot of it was they needed.

871
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 7: To build that sort of infrastructure behind the scenes to

872
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 7: make a soft landing for any coach that you would

873
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 7: bring in, right. They were basically saying like, hey, we

874
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 7: could fire Clayulton today, but you're not high Lincoln Riley.

875
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 6: You're going to get somebody else.

876
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 7: And you know, to their credit, like they did take

877
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 7: a little time to kind of build up behind the scenes,

878
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 7: and when they did make a hire, it was big

879
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 7: and it was Lincoln Riley. So I you know, there's

880
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 7: talk about you know, facilities, They've always like you said, Dan,

881
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 7: there's sort of always been behind the curve there, Like

882
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 7: even when Pete Carroll was around. I remember talking to

883
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 7: their strength and conditioning coach Chris Carlisle and they literally

884
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 7: had the worst weight room. I mean you would go

885
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 7: in there and it was crazy. Chris Carla was in

886
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 7: a basically a closet with Reggie Bush doing like bench

887
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 7: presses right outside of his door, and they're like, you know,

888
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 7: number one in the country. And he told me at

889
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 7: the time, he's like, you know, hey, we need better

890
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 7: weight room. And he said, the administration told them that

891
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 7: we'll go win a PACTF championship. Then they did, and

892
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 7: they said, well, go win a national championship, and they did.

893
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 7: He said well, you already won, you don't really need that,

894
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 7: And it was sort of like that's sort of been

895
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 7: the attitude for years of we can make do, we

896
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 7: don't need to do what everyone else is doing.

897
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: But college football is changing. I think you have to

898
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 6: keep up with the Joneses.

899
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 7: Will they ever get to a budget like a Georgia

900
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 7: or in Alabama, I don't know that, but I think

901
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 7: they're definitely putting more resources into it. They're they've been

902
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 7: behind on the nil stuff for sure, and I'm curious

903
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 7: to see where that kind of goes, because you know,

904
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 7: they're they're more selling what you could do when you

905
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 7: get to USC and maybe that all changes now. But

906
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 7: they're they're not having programs where you know, like we

907
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 7: see at Texas A and M or Tennessee that are

908
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 7: really organized and you know, funneling money in and for

909
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 7: these players. If you're Kayleb Williams, you're going to do well.

910
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 7: He gets a lot of great deals. But you know,

911
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 7: it's LA. It's more of a star driven town. If

912
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 7: you're the you know, the starting center, are you really

913
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 7: going to get the good the same kind of stuff?

914
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 7: So that's where I think maybe you've got to look

915
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 7: at for USC needs to get better, and they've had

916
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 7: a few collective startup just in the last several months.

917
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 7: But I fill with the administration they're putting money into it.

918
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 7: The nal thing is more of a as a I

919
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 7: don't know. I mean, they could get left far behind

920
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 7: in that, or it could you know, that whole landscape

921
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 7: could change and they could catch up. But it's that's

922
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 7: one area I would take a look at that. I'm

923
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 7: not sure that they know exactly what they're doing with

924
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 7: right now.

925
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: Right Brian, what are you watching for this spring?

926
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 7: I think really mostly on the defensive side of the ball.

927
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 7: If any schematic changes are happening, you know what the

928
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 7: defensive personnel looks like with what we get to watch.

929
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 7: That the whole point if you want to get to

930
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 7: that next level, Like you know, they were just close

931
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 7: to winning a Pac Goof championship. They could have potentially

932
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 7: made the playoff and all that, but if they don't

933
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 7: have a much improved defense, I don't think any of

934
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 7: that matters. So I feel like now the schedule is tougher.

935
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 7: You got Oregon and Washington back on the schedule, So

936
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 7: if they're not going to skate through that like they're

937
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 7: gonna have to have a better defense to win the

938
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 7: Pac twelve this year. So that's what I definitely want

939
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 7: to watch for. How they how much better can they get?

940
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 7: You talk to the guys, I mean, just Lincoln Riley

941
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 7: had a lot of confidence that there's going to be

942
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 7: a much improved defensive team. So that's kind of what

943
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 7: I want to see. If they can do that, then

944
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 7: they have a real chance of actually making some more

945
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 7: national noise this year.

946
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: So as we get into spring football, then we get

947
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 5: into summer, into USC's final season fully out west in

948
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: the Pac ten twelve whatever, we have Big ten in

949
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. And that also means aside from Ryan

950
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 5: Abraham and all of the LA interlopers to the Midwest

951
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: and East coast, we are going to have fan bases

952
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 5: that are not used to coming to Southern California end up,

953
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 5: you know, following their team in for a UCLA or USC.

954
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 5: And I guess we can be specific about USC here.

955
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 5: Where should they be staying, what should they be doing?

956
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 5: You know, downtown LA might be a little bit different

957
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: than suburban Maryland or New Jersey or Minneapolis. You know,

958
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 5: what would you recommend to those coming out for a

959
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 5: USC game. How should they make make it a weekend.

960
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 7: It's so funny because I mean, you're familiar with the

961
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 7: area and when you when people come out for the

962
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 7: Rose Bowl or you're like, oh, I'm staying in I'm

963
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 7: staying in Pasadena. Is that's where everyone's staying Like, no,

964
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 7: you're not one staying in Pasadena. I were like, Oh,

965
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 7: I'm in Newport Beach. How close is that?

966
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 6: That's not very a day trip.

967
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm a beach guy, you know,

968
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 7: I'm a South Bay guy. I think if you're somewhere

969
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 7: like in the Manhattan Beach for most of beach area,

970
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 7: you're gonna you're gonna enjoy yourself, you have a good time.

971
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 7: But you know, if you're on the coast, like in

972
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 7: Santa Monica or Venice, like there's some cool stuff you

973
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 7: can do.

974
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 6: So it depends. I would love you reach out to me,

975
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 6: you know, let me know, like what are you interested in?

976
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 7: But like you're like, you're not staying in like downtown

977
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 7: Los Angeles most likely, like oh, I'm right near the

978
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 7: convention Center. Like Okay, that's probably not that fun, right.

979
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 7: I'm more I would focus more on the beaches. Dan,

980
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 7: I love when you know you're gonna come to southern California,

981
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 7: stay near the beach. There's a lot of cool stuff.

982
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 7: It's hard to go wrong with like a Santa Monica

983
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 7: or Manhattan beach something like that.

984
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 6: But just be aware.

985
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 7: This is not like I'm not going to jump on

986
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 7: a train and get to wherever I need to go. Like,

987
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 7: you could literally be staying like an hour and a

988
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 7: half away from where you need to be, and people

989
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 7: don't even realize that most of the time.

990
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would also add eat Mexican food. Yes,

991
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 5: that's the move because most likely from where you're coming,

992
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 5: the Mexican food will be nowhere near as good as

993
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 5: if you're going to UCLA game, if you're going to

994
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 5: USC game. Make it a point to uh to search

995
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 5: out the best tacos or whatever in La. That's so

996
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 5: that's that's I think the simplest move. Go stay somewhere

997
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 5: near water if you can, and seek out tacos.

998
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 7: Yeah you're the taco expert, but there's so many good ones.

999
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 7: If you're gonna be downtown, there's you know that whole

1000
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 7: district down there. Yeah, it's a lot of cool and

1001
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 7: it's funny, Lat's a big burger place, which, yeah, probably

1002
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 7: coming from somewhere that's great burgers.

1003
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 6: But there's just a lot of kind.

1004
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 7: Of cool burgers here obviously, you know, sushi, a lot

1005
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 7: of different kind of Asian cuisine you can get, but

1006
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 7: tough to beat. You know, the Mexican. You could just

1007
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 7: stumble upon a random hole in the wall Mexican place.

1008
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 6: It could be.

1009
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 7: A you know, out of this world, so I would

1010
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 7: I would definitely go with that recommendation too.

1011
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 5: Ryan Abraham Paristyle podcast usc Football dot Com is just

1012
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: one of the originals. Is an icon, is a legend.

1013
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 5: You know, if you happen to be down in the South,

1014
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 5: you'll probably run into him somewhere, because that's just how

1015
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 5: it works. Ryan, thank you so much for your time.

1016
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 6: Thank you guys very much. It's always a pleasure. Great

1017
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 6: to be on again.

1018
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 4: Thank you all right, Dary good good to catch up

1019
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 4: with Ryan Man simply the best. We haven't talked to

1020
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: Ryan and god knows how long. It is always a pleasure,

1021
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 4: it is.

1022
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: It is a moment for us as longtime podcasters to

1023
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: also talk to another longtime podcaster, because he's got the gear,

1024
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: he sounds good, he's always willing to come on. He

1025
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: knows the medium, Ryan Abraham go to USC.

1026
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, why does Why does he have the gear? Why

1027
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 5: does he have the know how? Because you gave it

1028
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 5: to him for free, ty you're giving away.

1029
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: You have figured out he's a smart guy.

1030
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 5: I think he has like a like an engineering background something.

1031
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 5: He'd be fine.

1032
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: Clearly, he'd be perfectly fine.

1033
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: We have traded tips though over the years, and it's

1034
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: always good to have him on to get his insight

1035
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: on USC because nobody is quite as plugged in as him.

1036
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna do more of this now. As we said

1037
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: at the top, it is the the reason for the season, right.

1038
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: We can't build towards twenty twenty three. We can't really

1039
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: start talking about spring football, at least with some of

1040
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: these first year coaches, until we do the debrief on

1041
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: the year that was so an as for USC, we're

1042
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: going to note that, We'll put that somewhere and we're

1043
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: going to continue getting grades on some of these first

1044
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: year coaches as we forge ahead. Look, we've got like

1045
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: six months, six.

1046
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: Months of time to kill.

1047
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe not even six months of time to kill

1048
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: before we start talking about week one. So let's do

1049
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: it responsibly. Let's get our heads in a good spot.

1050
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: Let's figure out what went right, what went wrong in

1051
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: the year that was for a lot of these guys,

1052
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: and you're one of their new stops. And let's just

1053
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: keep moving, man, keep the legs moving.

1054
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 5: Can I be so forward to ask ty is what

1055
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 5: is your opinion on the state of the USC program?

1056
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: And we record this March twentieth mid Day.

1057
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think A minus is the right answer.

1058
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 6: OK.

1059
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: And I even kind of alluded to that when I

1060
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: asked the question. I felt weird asking him the question.

1061
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: But people want to hear from the guru.

1062
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: The USC guru, what do you think about USC?

1063
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: If it's not an A, it's an A minus because,

1064
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: as he mentioned, for whatever reason, and it feels odd

1065
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: to say that USC was not really in that national

1066
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: conversation with Clay Hilton, not as often as they should

1067
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: have been anyway. So the fact that Lincoln Riley storms

1068
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: into town, the fact that he brings some of the

1069
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: best players from around college football into LA, that they

1070
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: have an eleven to one season for a long time

1071
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: down the stretch, they were part of that national conversation

1072
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: and could have very well gotten into the playoff if

1073
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: things had maybe shaken out a.

1074
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: Little bit differently.

1075
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: Obviously, kaya williams Wan's the Heisman Trophy. That's a pretty

1076
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: big deal at USC really anywhere around college football. The

1077
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: defense stank, The defense was not good. The defense needs

1078
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: to get better. I don't know where you start to

1079
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: try and fix things there, but just by virtue of

1080
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: like I think, rebuilding the culture as quickly as he

1081
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: did and making USC fans and members of the USC

1082
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: program believe to the extent that they have, that's a

1083
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: huge dub. It's a huge dumb. It can't be any

1084
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: lower than an ay minus.

1085
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1086
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: I think USC is one of the most fascinating programs

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Speaker 5: Riley's name, because of his ability to attract quarterbacks. They

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Speaker 5: have that quarterback of the future now locally in Malachi Nelson,

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Speaker 5: who is the class of the Jewel of the class

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Speaker 5: of twenty twenty three. So that's not going to be

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Speaker 5: a question to me. I think they're just going to

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Speaker 5: continually put out no matter you know, which defense they're

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Speaker 5: playing against. If it's you know, Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: I think they're gonna score a lot of points in

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Speaker 5: the Big Ten. It's going to be to me national

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Speaker 5: recruiting and defense and coaching staff. And obviously Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 5: showed a lot of loyalty towards Alex Grinch, which points

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Speaker 5: to the fact that Lincoln Riley likely felt, as Ryan

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Speaker 5: best with what they had and what they could bring

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Speaker 5: in quickly. And so so if USC is successful in

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Speaker 5: the Big Ten, if they become a perennial playoff team,

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Speaker 5: what does it look like when you go into Texas,

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Speaker 5: when you go into Florida to find, you know, the

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Speaker 5: next Leonard Williams, When you you know, try to find

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Speaker 5: the next Brian Cushing out of New Jersey. Are they

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Speaker 5: in those living rooms? Are they, you know, into December

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Speaker 5: recruiting these guys that huge programs nationally. When Alabama or

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Speaker 5: George r Ohio State is USC in that final three,

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Speaker 5: that final two, how long does it take to get there?

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Speaker 5: Pete Carroll was in that position to a lesser extent.

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Speaker 5: Lanekiffin and Steve Sarkisian. But what is what does the

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Speaker 5: Lincoln Riley recruiting profile look like? As the program's profile

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Speaker 5: has to to to be raised in the Big ten,

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Speaker 5: That to me is going to be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of news right now, if I'm

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Speaker 1: being dead honest with you, Dan, but we find.

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Speaker 5: Maybe a PAC twelve TV deal. The next week or.

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