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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, the daily women's

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Speaker 1: sports show you've always wanted. Even more than coach Cheryl

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Speaker 1: Reeve wants us all to stop asking about the Olympic

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Speaker 1: roster at links games.

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Speaker 2: We're going to tell you all about us at a.

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Speaker 1: Few, but first we start every show by giving you

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Speaker 1: what you need to know today. The US women's national

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Speaker 1: soccer team played its final Olympic sendoff match last night

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Speaker 1: against Costa Rica in Washington, DC, and that's it for

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Speaker 1: tune ups. Next time they play, it's for keeps. The

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Speaker 1: opening ceremony of the Paris Olympics is just over one

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Speaker 1: week away on Friday, July twenty six, but Olympic soccer

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Speaker 1: actually begins a few days before that, so the US

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Speaker 1: opens up its tournament on Thursday, July twenty fifth with

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Speaker 1: a Group B matchup against Zambia. Episode two of the

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Speaker 1: eight part Docuseriies in the Arena Serena Williams drops tonight

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Speaker 1: on ESPN Plus, and it details her struggle to keep

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Speaker 1: up momentum after her first Grand Slam, and also her

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Speaker 1: sperience competing with older sister Venus when she was the

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Speaker 1: world number one. It has been really fun to watch

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Speaker 1: so far, and it also feels really good to be

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Speaker 1: in an era where female legends like Serena are getting

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Speaker 1: their flowers while they're still here. We're only two years

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Speaker 1: removed from her retirement and we already have this multipart

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Speaker 1: doc which is so great. Cameron Brink, former Stanford women's

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Speaker 1: basketball star and rookie with the WNBA's La Sparks, did

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Speaker 1: an amazing photo shoot and interview with Flaunt magazine. Now

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Speaker 1: you should be but if you're not yet familiar with

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Speaker 1: Cameron Brink, I think this tweet sort of sums her up.

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Speaker 1: Quote it's like the Cameron Diaz Factory decided to put

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Speaker 1: out at Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 2: Just check out the photo shoot and it'll make sense.

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Speaker 1: This is just another example of the incredible versatility of

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Speaker 1: all these WNBA athletes, and especially this rookie class. They're

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Speaker 1: bringing so much flavor, so much personality, and really handling

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Speaker 1: the bright spotlight so well. And if you just remember

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Speaker 1: the early days of the w where players look like

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Speaker 1: they were exclusively allowed to shop at Ann Taylor, it

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Speaker 1: feels like things are just really different now. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we wish we were watching Cameron on the court as well,

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Speaker 1: but she's currently out with an ACL tear, and that

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Speaker 1: injury also means she's no longer able to compete in

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Speaker 1: three x three at the upcoming Paras Olympics, which is

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Speaker 1: a super bummer. Speaking of three on three, we're continuing

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Speaker 1: to get details about the thirty players that are participating

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Speaker 1: in this new Unrivaled Basketball League. We're getting one new

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Speaker 1: player named every day. And the league, if you haven't

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Speaker 1: heard about, is created by the New York Liberties Brianna

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Speaker 1: Stewart and the Minnesota Lynx is Nefisa Collier. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be a three on three format and tip off

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Speaker 1: in Miami in January of twenty twenty five. And the

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Speaker 1: cool thing about this is it's going to offer all

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Speaker 1: these WNBA players a chance to stay and play in

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Speaker 1: the US during the offseason. You could see all the

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Speaker 1: players that they've been out so far at www Dot

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Speaker 1: Unrivaled dot Basketball. We got two WNBA games tonight, and

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Speaker 1: that's before the Olympic break takes over. So Alicia Gray

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Speaker 1: in the Atlanta Dream hit the road to face the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Links. Links are without their star and Olympia and

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Speaker 1: Nafisa Colliers. She's missed the last four games with Planner

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Speaker 1: fashion pain in her left foot dream are just outside

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Speaker 1: the playoff picture right now. Meanwhile, Minnesota's flirting with third

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Speaker 1: place in the standings. Game tips off at one Eastern

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Speaker 1: on League Pass, So go ahead, take a long lunch

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Speaker 1: break and watch that. And we've also got Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: and the Indiana Fever heading down south to play Arique

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Speaker 1: Battle with the Chicago Sky for eighth seed, and that's

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Speaker 1: a last playoff spot come end of the regular season. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: the Wings are talented, but struggling and inconsistency has pushed

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Speaker 1: them down to last place in the league. The only

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Speaker 1: good news about that is producer Misha's mystics aren't last anymore.

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Speaker 1: But we'll talk some about that later. Game tips off

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Speaker 1: at seven thirty pm Eastern on ESPN. Also, of course,

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Speaker 1: WNBA All Star Game is this weekend, with the US

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Speaker 1: Olympic team taking on the All Stars. We'll get more

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Speaker 1: pumped and excited for Phoenix. Okay, okay, we've waited long enough.

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Speaker 1: Let's make this about US hi we're so excited you're here,

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Speaker 1: bring you awesome women's sports takes, debates, conversations five days

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Speaker 1: a week. As far as I know, there's never been

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Speaker 1: a daily women's sports podcast, and if you know of one,

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Speaker 1: definitely do not write in and tell me about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to know. I really want to consider

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Speaker 2: But I feel like that would be a little forward, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't even know me, and I certainly

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Speaker 1: can't introduce a whole other person already. I haven't even

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Speaker 1: for play, right, It's like, take a little moment to

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Speaker 1: get to know each other.

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Speaker 2: I'm Sarah Spain.

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Speaker 1: You might know me from seeing me on Around the

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Speaker 1: Horn on ESPN, perhaps intentionally, or maybe just at an

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Speaker 1: you saw me on Sports Center Outside the Lines. E's

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Speaker 1: sixty highly questionable Dan Levittard show, my old podcast on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: That's what she said, My.

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Speaker 1: Old radio shows Spain and Fifth it's Izzy in Spain,

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Speaker 2: YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we even listened to back when I started my

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Speaker 1: career in Chicago at ESPN one thousand or Mouthpiece Sports.

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Speaker 1: The point is, I have been at this for a while,

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Speaker 1: like twenty years, and that's included spending the last fourteen

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Speaker 1: And so between media coverage and merch and streaming services

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Speaker 1: shift in societal expectations have really changed the game entirely,

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Speaker 1: and perhaps that biggest change is society. Over the years,

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Speaker 2: It was bad. It was really bad, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, youngsters, you would not last an hour

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Speaker 2: And that's what we want to do here on Good Game.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about how sometimes things look a

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Speaker 1: right now in women's sports, we need to be coming

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Speaker 1: lore that should be common knowledge. Stories like if you

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Speaker 1: nine Ers women's soccer team. The players were stuck on

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be like a baby like. I don't know

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Speaker 1: That's sound of more like a goat, but you need

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Speaker 2: She was in diapers when the WIBA started. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: carry out.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get a little button that I can press

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Speaker 3: initial reaction, it's a necessary evil. I hate that it's

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Speaker 3: probably going to price people out of certain seats. The

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Speaker 3: little bit more affordable. But then those folks who want

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Speaker 2: Young can pay a few extra dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I always feel bad for the diehards

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Speaker 1: a lot more when it's a men's league that's been

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Speaker 1: and doing it repeatedly year after year in ways that

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Speaker 1: don't feel like necessitated by the market or any other reason.

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Speaker 2: In this case, it feels sort of necessary. But it's

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Speaker 2: a bummer. It's a bummer for a lot of folks.

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Speaker 2: But like you said, you got to get that money.

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Speaker 1: And like I think, if you ask those diehard fans

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Speaker 1: different teams that are potentially thinking about up in those prices.

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