Speaker 1: But we were just talking about the draft.
Speaker 2: So that is what we're gonna be talking about today
Speaker 2: on this episode of this League. We are talking about
Speaker 2: the only thing that really matters, which is fucking off season.
Speaker 3: Moves, draft, and soon free.
Speaker 1: Agency will start on August second.
Speaker 2: And they affect one another. We already have one massive trade.
Speaker 2: I am so excited to get your thoughts on. This
Speaker 2: is the trade Memphis gets. Memphis trades with New Orleans Pelicans.
Speaker 2: Memphis trades Jonas Valanciunas the seventeenth pick, the fifty one
Speaker 2: pick in exchange for Eric Bledsoe, Steven Adams, the tenth pick,
Speaker 2: and the fortieth pick in this year's draft. But they
Speaker 2: also get the lakers twenty twenty two first round pick,
Speaker 2: which is also sneaky meaningful. Boy, I did not see
Speaker 2: that trade coming whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean there was that report that they
Speaker 3: really wanted to move Bletsoe and were even willing to
Speaker 3: like move down in the draft to offload them, which
Speaker 3: makes a little sense. I love this for the Pelicans.
Speaker 3: I love it. I mean, a you're swapping Steven Adams
Speaker 3: out for valent JUnit. I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 3: shot on Steven Adams too hard, but he and Zion
Speaker 3: just doesn't work. It just didn't then, Jonas Jonas, I
Speaker 3: think he's better than Steven Adams. First off, he can
Speaker 3: spread the floor. He's just a way better fit for
Speaker 3: that team. And you offload bletsoe you move back in
Speaker 3: the draft from ten to seventeen, but you really only
Speaker 3: give up one first round pick and you upgrade like twice.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. I think it might
Speaker 3: be a win win. Isn't a win. I think it's
Speaker 3: a win win I get. I mean, if Memphis really
Speaker 3: likes someone that they think they can get at ten
Speaker 3: and not at seventeen, then yeah, which they probably do.
Speaker 3: That's probably, you know, the that's exactly what I see.
Speaker 3: Memphis won.
Speaker 2: They knew that they were gonna have to pay Valentuni
Speaker 2: sets point. Zion obviously will fit better with Valentnist than
Speaker 2: Steven Adams. Valentnis obviously opens up the floor a lot
Speaker 2: for Jaw and Stevens right now is going to be
Speaker 2: a straight laying clogger. So I think that they probably
Speaker 2: try to go and move Steven Adams, and apparently.
Speaker 3: Steven Adams is like shooting.
Speaker 1: I think I said Stevens, but I mean Steven Adams.
Speaker 2: Anyways, So apparently Steven Adams is shooting like a million
Speaker 2: threes now in practice. I don't believe it to become
Speaker 2: like the next Brook Lopez. But they get better on defense, right,
Speaker 2: like Memphis was not a great defensive team in the perimeter,
Speaker 2: I mean or in the interior. They're okay with Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 2: They definitely get better on defense. I think they have
Speaker 2: to move bledsoe I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean I saw a tweet that like,
Speaker 3: they're not They're not. Eric doesn't expect to stay there,
Speaker 3: in which I mean he's a clutch athlete, so we
Speaker 3: all know where this is going.
Speaker 2: He is a backup point guard. This is how I
Speaker 2: would describe him as a backup point guard with not
Speaker 2: only who is undersized and obviously strong, but poor decision
Speaker 2: making and cancerous to any organization that he goes to,
Speaker 2: including a team with Giannis, which is just sort of stunning.
Speaker 2: And he cost twenty million dollars and he cost twenty
Speaker 2: two million dollars.
Speaker 1: But getting the tenth pick in the draft is fucking great.
Speaker 2: If you have someone in mind and the name that
Speaker 2: I think they might have in mind is either Dwarte
Speaker 2: or Kaminga.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think Kaminga is going to be there.
Speaker 3: I think someone's going to try to take him. But
Speaker 3: I like Dwarte.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dwarte and Dylan Brooks.
Speaker 3: Ooh oe, ooh oie. This is what the athletic.
Speaker 2: So the thing about the move for New Orleans is
Speaker 2: that they want to go out and get Kyle Lowry.
Speaker 2: But they could have gotten and been able to pay
Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry without all of these moves.
Speaker 1: And this is what the Athletic said about that quote.
Speaker 2: A Senate could point out and it's like, that's me,
Speaker 2: that's me, Trista cricktcinec New Orleans had a means of
Speaker 2: generating almost the same exact cap space by using the
Speaker 2: stretch provision on Bloedsow. They could have done that and
Speaker 2: kept Adams, who makes three more than Valentunis, but and
Speaker 2: allowing the cap higher cap hold for pick number ten
Speaker 2: versus pick number seventeen, Pelicans would have had twenty six
Speaker 2: million in room just there for a Lowry chase. And
Speaker 2: of course, if the Pels end up keeping ball in heart,
Speaker 2: cap room will end up being irrelevant since they can
Speaker 2: resign them both with their burg rights. It is a
Speaker 2: confusing trade to me. The craziest thing though, now, is
Speaker 2: that the backup center that you thought you had in
Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes is now probably going to jail.
Speaker 3: Yep, facts like actually jail. They drafted him in ate.
Speaker 2: The breaking news is that he recently got into an
Speaker 2: altercation I think last night a couple of nights ago
Speaker 2: with there was like a disturbing the peace or just
Speaker 2: domestic disturbance call.
Speaker 1: Police came over.
Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes didn't want to allegedly allegedly didn't want to
Speaker 2: let him into the home, and then he then he
Speaker 2: beat a police officer's ass, yeah, and put him in
Speaker 2: the hospital and then.
Speaker 1: Had to get taste and then he was taking the hospital.
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't sound like a funny story, and
Speaker 2: it's not, but it kind of is, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: it isn't and it is, but he's They need to
Speaker 2: find a backup center now in the draft.
Speaker 1: So seventeen maybe Kai Jones, I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 3: They eighteen's early twenties. Both Texas boys, well Texas boys.
Speaker 1: Only a few big men expect Kai Jones to be
Speaker 1: on the phone with David Griffin.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, I heard you guys are in the market
Speaker 3: for a big man.
Speaker 1: I know. Sick humor, sick humor.
Speaker 2: Also, you have to lock up Yodas Valenciunas he's his
Speaker 2: market value is gone up as well. You need to
Speaker 2: just re sign him a sap Rocky. You have no one, now,
Speaker 2: you have no one. Now let's talk about the draft
Speaker 2: in general right now. Consensus Top four Kay Cunningham Oklahoma State,
Speaker 2: Jalen Green from G League Knight, Evan Mobley from USC
Speaker 2: Jalen Hugs.
Speaker 3: As an aside, Jalen Rowe should be proud.
Speaker 2: Jalen Rose Kid's mom birthed the name Jalen, and now
Speaker 2: we have two Jalen's going in the top four of
Speaker 2: the draft. My favorite, personally is Jalen Suggs. I've said
Speaker 2: it once, I've said it a million times. I like
Speaker 2: a two way player. He's sneaky, athletic, he's very competitive.
Speaker 2: We know that he's got the clutch gene.
Speaker 1: He's one of the freak I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: ever heard the story kids from Minnesota.
Speaker 3: He played a million sports.
Speaker 2: Every time he tried one, he was like the best
Speaker 2: athlete on the field or court or anything. He played
Speaker 2: soccer for the first time, and the coach said, could
Speaker 2: be myth, could be not myth that in the middle
Speaker 2: of the first practice, Jalen Suggs is the best soccer
Speaker 2: player on the field in the middle of the first practice.
Speaker 1: So I like his athletic ability. Six' five is fucking.
Speaker 1: Big he doesn't look six' five to be uh six
Speaker 1: four sixty five two. Way guard and he is Cousins With,
Speaker 1: terrell suggs which means he's a fucking hard rock and
Speaker 1: anyone Related To, TERRELL suggs i.
Speaker 3: Trust in he's your number one in the. Whole. Draft
Speaker 3: now he's just.
Speaker 2: My, my favorite like, can't miss like any team could plug,
Speaker 2: and play you KNOW what, I mean like not everybody
Speaker 2: outside of Like maybe portland or, something like, but still,
Speaker 2: UH yeah i. LIKE him i like HIM for i
Speaker 2: like him for. ALMOST everyone i think he'll go number Four.
Speaker 2: To toronto Playing In tampa bay is kind of like
Speaker 2: they should get the number, four spot but they won
Speaker 2: a championship two, years ago so number four for them sort.
Speaker 3: Of strange but the.
Speaker 2: New rumor Is That golden state is going to trade
Speaker 2: seven and fourteen and maybe a piece to Like the
Speaker 2: calves to take the number three spot And draft, jalen
Speaker 2: sucks which would be fucking Heartbreaking for toronto because you
Speaker 2: Don't Want.
Speaker 1: Evan mobley you Don't.
Speaker 2: WANT jalen i don't know who you would get at,
Speaker 2: that POINT but i don't think you. Already Have pascal
Speaker 2: siakam probably is on, the MOVE but i think it
Speaker 2: just fucks up all.
Speaker 1: Your plans that's. What.
Speaker 2: Happens yeah the closest to me out of those four
Speaker 2: of not panning Out Is evan mobley out OF se
Speaker 2: i just think, big, men skinny big men Out Of.
Speaker 2: Southern california just the closest out of all.
Speaker 3: OF them I get i. GET it i like WHAT
Speaker 3: he i like what he. Gives you. ON defense i
Speaker 3: think HE showed i mean he has the ability to
Speaker 3: develop into a score and not saying that, he WILL
Speaker 3: but i like what he could bring athletically, and DEFENSIVELY
Speaker 3: so i THINK he i kind Of think mobley's an
Speaker 3: immediate impact guy with the ability to get. Way better
Speaker 3: who is your favorite out of? THOSE four I LIKE cad,
Speaker 3: I mean i you are just jizzing All.
Speaker 1: OVER kate I.
Speaker 3: LIKE kate i mean what he can do in all
Speaker 3: three levels at. Six,' eight uh he's shown. Flashes of playmaking,
Speaker 3: he's he's big HE'S got. An nba body he's not
Speaker 3: gonna get like tossed around on defense unless he's just like,
Speaker 3: a total shithead, which COULD be but i don't. Think He, Is,
Speaker 3: UH yeah No, I like, KATE i like i really like.
Speaker 3: All these, Guys It's tough Like i'm glad I'M not
Speaker 3: a gm right now in this draft because it's tough.
Speaker 3: At the top tough, at the top.
Speaker 2: But we all know kind of where it ends up
Speaker 2: in the top four unless. Somebody goes insane like the
Speaker 2: one guy THAT could potentially i don't know IF you
Speaker 2: saw espn plus put out a whole. Like scouting report
Speaker 2: the one guy who is kind of like a wild
Speaker 2: card to potentially fuck up the top of the draft
Speaker 2: Is This.
Speaker 3: Guy alpern Shngoon.
Speaker 2: Out, of turkey yeah who is ESPN's number one, overall
Speaker 2: practic prospect which we will.
Speaker 3: Get to him and he's like.
Speaker 2: Apparently quote unquote could Be the next jokic and people,
Speaker 2: HAVE him, going i, know you're.
Speaker 1: Like the guys are darting, back and forth like fuck.
Speaker 2: Is, this guy look he Is, a strange no it's,
Speaker 2: a strange thing but he could EASILY. Like a gm
Speaker 2: there could be gms hiding in the weeds pretending. To
Speaker 2: love whoever We'll Call, it evan mobley and actually they
Speaker 2: end up, Just saying no i'm gonna take a flyer.
Speaker 2: On this guy, if that happens obviously all. Kinds of
Speaker 2: chaos we'll pan. Out after that after, the TOP four
Speaker 2: which i think, is largely Set.
Speaker 1: You've Got James book Night yukon from yukon six three,
Speaker 1: and a half one of the best handles.
Speaker 3: In the Draft.
Speaker 1: Played at yukon been moving up the draft board because
Speaker 1: his workouts.
Speaker 3: Have been.
Speaker 1: Phenomenal he's streaky.
Speaker 2: THOUGH he's streaky i think the best fit for Him
Speaker 2: Is probably golden state.
Speaker 3: At seven potentially what do you? Like about HIM WHAT
Speaker 3: do i i. MEAN he's shifting i actually think he's
Speaker 3: a little. TALLER than that i have him at six five. In,
Speaker 3: SOME things yeah i mean his shooting is, a LITTLE
Speaker 3: streaky but i think his. BODY'S pretty good i like
Speaker 3: him in that. LIKE lottery range i think that's the
Speaker 3: exact type of player you hope to get in.
Speaker 2: THE mid lottery i think he's like could, Be HUGE
Speaker 2: upside like i have huge draft, analyst type friends like
Speaker 2: they're they live and breathe this stuff AND they're like
Speaker 2: i like This. Book night kid he looks bigger than
Speaker 2: six three and a, half, for sure.
Speaker 1: Slender but yeah he could go anywhere from.
Speaker 2: SEVEN to twelve i could Also see potentially memphis taking
Speaker 2: him at ten.
Speaker 1: To, go with jaw which, is A possibility maybe.
Speaker 2: ORLANDO at eight i don't want to see any of
Speaker 2: these Guys, Go, TO orlando honestly I don't.
Speaker 3: What i mean the funny thing Is, LIKE will, well
Speaker 3: i mean everyone's A fit in orlando because. They need
Speaker 3: everything everyone is a potential Landing.
Speaker 2: Spot is ORLANDO but like i Just don't want if
Speaker 2: you need a lot of development time and a lot,
Speaker 2: of development energy you Shouldn't. Go to orlando you Should
Speaker 2: Go to San antonio Or miami or Golden Not.
Speaker 1: Even Golden, State, GOLDEN state no i mean.
Speaker 3: Just hasn't really shown the ability to. Develop, anyone, DEVELOPED
Speaker 3: yeah Yeah I mean ola depot's the closest and like
Speaker 3: they got rid of him like before he became before
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 2: LIKE fully baked i think possibly the only reason that he,
Speaker 2: really panned out is because he ended Up Going to
Speaker 2: oklahoma city And Then. To, Indiana Sospel yeah oklahoma city
Speaker 2: a great landing spot if you. Need to develop they
Speaker 2: are not committed to, winning anytime soon.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna get a lot of reps to.
Speaker 1: Try Shit out corey KISPERT kid is i think going
Speaker 1: to move up into one of Those Roles like joe
Speaker 1: harris or.
Speaker 3: A pat conatent he's, six Y, Six like joe white guys.
Speaker 3: Who can shoot white guys that can.
Speaker 1: Shoot the shit out of the ball off the dribble
Speaker 1: spot up fifty to forty Ninety, guy potentially, gonzaga fully
Speaker 1: formed twenty two year old like that guy could fit
Speaker 1: into pretty. MUCH any roster I Think probably golden state
Speaker 1: would make, somewhat Of sense or indiana Or Maybe. The
Speaker 1: washington wizards and yet of course.
Speaker 3: To see him in a pacer like he's Already Built, For,
Speaker 3: YELLOW yeah no i mean he's just he's a. Really
Speaker 3: good shooter he shot uh eighty eight percent free. Throws
Speaker 3: last year like that's which is THAT'S kind of i
Speaker 3: read like a. Long time ago that's what gms like
Speaker 3: look for more in like can they develop a shot
Speaker 3: is free throw rather than field goal in three point, percentage,
Speaker 3: because shots like over the course, of a game they'll
Speaker 3: get better at, taking contested shots but free throw shows
Speaker 3: like just like raw. Ability to, shoot yeah, yeah, SO
Speaker 3: yeah no i like what. HE can bring i mean the,
Speaker 3: twenty TWO thing But I mean cam johnson was twenty
Speaker 3: two when, he got drafted was twenty three maybe when,
Speaker 3: He got drafted so that's actually maybe a decent. Comparison for, him, two,
Speaker 3: yeah six. Yeah six' six he's a i don't think He's.
Speaker 3: AS athletic as cams i don't, think he, is, either, but,
Speaker 3: like no no no he can't move like see can
Speaker 3: you SEE. Him dunking On Pj tucker.
Speaker 1: LIKE cam johnson did.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, BUT to be Fair I didn't
Speaker 3: think cam johnson. Could do that either so one.
Speaker 2: Of My favorite players, and i'm super biased Super Soon
Speaker 2: super biased chris, torte six fucking. Six he's twenty four.
Speaker 2: He's an old head we, even said it best like if, you,
Speaker 2: want to win. Now you take me if you want
Speaker 2: a little baby that you need to develop and feed
Speaker 2: them milk and put him in, the in the stroller
Speaker 2: like you take. Those eighteen year olds i'm gonna be able,
Speaker 2: to contribute right, away ready to play probably one of
Speaker 2: the most ready to play.
Speaker 1: Guys in the. Draft he's super athletic he, can shoot
Speaker 1: a lot not As Well. As Like Dylan brooks like
Speaker 1: dylan brooks has DEVELOPED into a much i.
Speaker 2: Think a better shooter There's a potential that memphis could
Speaker 2: take Him Again. At ten golden state The whole thing
Speaker 2: about memphis potentially moving up to ten Might have Been
Speaker 2: For dorte because golden state. Is salivating. After him at
Speaker 2: fourteen portland would be. Perfect Spot for him but portland,
Speaker 2: has zero draft picks So we will not we.
Speaker 3: Will not Get him, he's super bowl, too he's.
Speaker 2: Twenty, four twenty four downside he's not really big enough
Speaker 2: to HANDLE.
Speaker 3: Large forwards u d But If, you're with dylan.
Speaker 1: Brooks doesn't really matter there's a Lot of guys.
Speaker 2: In Memphis can guard ALL i'm saying is i don't
Speaker 2: Think It matters that chris dwarte is not super big
Speaker 2: enough to handle THESE LARGER forwards on d a lot
Speaker 2: of places.
Speaker 1: Want him a lot of what do you think you just?
Speaker 3: Think, He's too old no i'm not like down. ON
Speaker 3: him at all i mean he is. Like, a little
Speaker 3: old like if you're at the top of the draft
Speaker 3: and you're looking to, do a complete rebuild you may
Speaker 3: want to go. With a younger, guy, but for Like
Speaker 3: Yeah like a golden state or a team that you
Speaker 3: think is like close, to maybe getting there and this
Speaker 3: guy can, be like, a reliable you know bench. Player,
Speaker 3: TO start out.
Speaker 2: YEAH i like him I Forgot to say Chris. Darte
Speaker 2: went To, Oregon He. Did ducks go ducks.
Speaker 3: Let's talk ABOUT guys who are.
Speaker 2: I think big risks i think that's probably what people,
Speaker 2: really want to know is like when, you see these names?
Speaker 1: Should YOU be concerned and i. THINK the biggest one
Speaker 1: i bounced. AROUND with this. GUY i bounced, around i.
Speaker 3: Was like is?
Speaker 2: HE a sure thing i thought it might be a,
Speaker 2: sure thing AT first and then i did SOME more research, and,
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 1: OH i.
Speaker 3: Took him i was he was, in the.
Speaker 1: Trouble category and then he went into, the wild card
Speaker 1: category and then he went into, the shirt thing.
Speaker 3: Category and then he went back. To the Trouble category.
Speaker 2: So, he's he's six seven Two Twenty, five from florida.
Speaker 2: State Nineteen years old scottie barnes consensus top five pick
Speaker 2: and maybe one of the RISKIEST top five picks i
Speaker 2: have thought. ABOUT in a minute i don't know about,
Speaker 2: that high much hyperbole but to, take him top five,
Speaker 2: given who he is it's sort of. Fucking crazy to
Speaker 2: me the Guy Is like. A ben, simmons esque i.
Speaker 3: Mean he can't, shoot he can't. Shoot he doesn't shoot
Speaker 3: he has More Offensive.
Speaker 1: Moves than ben simmons he can pass Cross Court.
Speaker 3: More than ben simmons.
Speaker 1: He doesn't shoot particularly well from.
Speaker 2: The free throw line he's a sixty percent, of free
Speaker 2: throw shooter which does not bode WELL, If you're a,
Speaker 2: gm as you said you watch his, highlights, and you're,
Speaker 2: like man he's, athletic, and you're like damn he shoots
Speaker 2: twenty nine percent from three sixty percent from.
Speaker 3: The freeme eather line and now, there's scouts being like
Speaker 3: his whole entire shot. Needs to? Be, RECONSTRUCTED sound, familiar,
Speaker 3: yeah i mean ugh they call? Him for, top, FIVE
Speaker 3: oh lord. Uh, i, DON'T know yeah no i would not.
Speaker 3: Take Him At, Five if i'm orlando THAT'S THAT'S not
Speaker 3: who i i Would be a very. Orlando, move, sort of,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah They could They could i'm not i'm not
Speaker 3: predicting what, will or won't happen but THAT'S that's not
Speaker 3: who i WOULD be. Looking, at a five no they.
Speaker 2: Said He's A combo Of Draymond, green AND pascal siakam, and,
Speaker 2: i was like Yeah If you take Draymond Green's offense, and,
Speaker 2: Passcal siakam's, defense maybe like no, like he, has tools
Speaker 2: he's athletic but like that's the riskiest pick.
Speaker 3: Maybe, IN the. Lottery yeah i did it'd be hard
Speaker 3: to like, say definitively, Like no you're wrong he's he's,
Speaker 3: a risky for sure and like where, HE'S slated to
Speaker 3: go i think. HE may be right i would love.
Speaker 2: To see him in A, place like the spurs like
Speaker 2: a place where, you could develop him or a place
Speaker 2: like if he was going further down and they didn't
Speaker 2: have Any Other needs like jalen suggs, that they NEED
Speaker 2: him but Like I could see nick nurse trans trying
Speaker 2: to like, work on, his Shot You know like, Nick
Speaker 2: NURSE has Transformed like I think fred van fleet, shot
Speaker 2: a little bit and so.
Speaker 1: He's known for that but.
Speaker 2: Like, some place Not, orlando like not orlando they're not,
Speaker 2: going to develop.
Speaker 1: Him not going. To not going to I'm Very.
Speaker 2: Worried About scottie barnes jonathan kaminga SIX eight two.
Speaker 3: Twenty g league guy this Is The.
Speaker 2: PROBLEM with jonathan kaminga i again one of those, guys,
Speaker 2: where you're like oh he has such upside and then
Speaker 2: you watch him and, you read, about him and like
Speaker 2: here's here's.
Speaker 3: The book, on him.
Speaker 2: No motor raw, athleticism he's, twenty two no, motor but
Speaker 2: raw athleticism doesn't try. Sometimes takes plays off has elite
Speaker 2: defensive potential if he ever decides to lock in mentally,
Speaker 2: and improve his fundamentals capable of, someday shutting, down smaller
Speaker 2: quicker players if he decides. To play with intensity and.
Speaker 2: Those were his pros that Was. The positive on kaminga
Speaker 2: the downside.
Speaker 1: Is his decision making he gets flustered when his. First
Speaker 1: read isn't available he ends up jacking up a ton
Speaker 1: of contested shots instead of looking for a pass or
Speaker 1: creating higher, Quality shot for himself?
Speaker 3: Like, What, THE fuck yeah no i mean the THING
Speaker 3: about him that i think that gms kind of have
Speaker 3: a feel on him for is that like, when he
Speaker 3: looks good. He looks really good and. When he looks bad,
Speaker 3: he looks really bad and he just looks lost and
Speaker 3: makes a lot of mistakes and doesn't really use his
Speaker 3: body in a way that he should and should, be
Speaker 3: looking TO do, WHICH is, I mean i mean i
Speaker 3: mean he's. HE'S eighteen years old I don't think it's
Speaker 3: i actually kind. OF like his upside i like HIM
Speaker 3: way More Than i. Like, SCOTTY barnes personally yeah.
Speaker 2: I think IF you Are A, gm like oklahoma city
Speaker 2: maybe maybe like you've, got a million picks got? A,
Speaker 2: Million of them no you've got like literally twenty picks
Speaker 2: from now, until twenty twenty seven so like you have
Speaker 2: the ability to go for someone With high upside maybe
Speaker 2: sacramento where, people go to, die like good Fit but
Speaker 2: like if i'm a team, who needs something now like
Speaker 2: you have no time to waste and kaminga not.
Speaker 1: Not not the one but.
Speaker 3: We're, talking about, trouble here so yeah all.
Speaker 2: These.
Speaker 3: Guys Are trouble Uh. Davion mitchell from baylor he's six.
Speaker 3: Feet in high heels. He, COULD be great yeah, i
Speaker 3: mean he's tiny.
Speaker 1: But he is.
Speaker 3: Little yeah he is.
Speaker 2: He plays a, lot, He's a winner Right, he's played,
Speaker 2: at baylor, one chip very nasty plays a little like
Speaker 2: drew on the, ball into your.
Speaker 3: Body very good at getting to the spot.
Speaker 2: ON defense before you I, saw him shut, cad cunning
Speaker 2: him down which Is fucking crazy because kate hunting him is?
Speaker 3: What, six to seven yes?
Speaker 2: Six, Seven six eight okay so you got a little
Speaker 2: tiny Guy, putting CLAMPS on cad which i think is a.
Speaker 3: Great sign he's skilled he's like a Smaller.
Speaker 2: Quote unquote donod mitchell they say maybe Say they say.
Speaker 3: D mitchell and they. Both, wear forty five. Yeah. IT'S
Speaker 3: actually confusing uh i think if he was six three.
Speaker 3: HE'D go top three i don't know about top three because.
Speaker 3: He still is old he's like he's like. Twenty, three
Speaker 3: to two true but he would. Definitely, be going higher
Speaker 3: yeah he's actually a weird one because he shot really
Speaker 3: well from three and. Not from, free throw uh so
Speaker 3: which means maybe.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: Won't, translate correct yeah no he's he's a big risk
Speaker 3: and he probably. Will Go top ten like i've seen him. Linked,
Speaker 3: Till like eight yeah i've seen Him Link to, like
Speaker 3: GOLDEN STATE maybe which.
Speaker 2: I i don't Like that doesn't, make here's the thing
Speaker 2: only Certain Players fit for golden state guys that are going,
Speaker 2: to contribute for sure guys that are. Gonna, help them
Speaker 2: win now if, they're keeping those picks we. Already know
Speaker 2: this problem we. Talked about that before.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna Come in, and like clay's Healthy
Speaker 1: we Think, and steph and wiggins who knows what's, gonna
Speaker 1: happen with him.
Speaker 3: Probably gonna get.
Speaker 1: Discarded you need someone you don't need, another undersized guard now.
Speaker 3: You DON'T need that and i don't think he's gonna
Speaker 3: be able to.
Speaker 1: Get a shot off there's a potential, you're SIX feet
Speaker 1: flat AND i just don't i.
Speaker 2: Just don't see it he Could End up like trey.
Speaker 2: Burke just, Bouncing, AROUND.
Speaker 3: He could yeah i mean if your shot Doesn't Translate
Speaker 3: what like trey burke's, like, didn't like yeah no. You're.
Speaker 3: Looking AT that yeah so.
Speaker 1: I could see him and there's, not that many people
Speaker 1: there's not that many teams, that really need him need him.
Speaker 3: In the TOP ten so.
Speaker 2: Like i can see him actually falling down To, like
Speaker 2: FIFTEEN to washington which i think would.
Speaker 3: Be, a decent. FIT yeah he could i. DON'T think
Speaker 3: He will i just i've just Seen, him IN enough
Speaker 3: mox which i know is, not A good reason but
Speaker 3: i feel like someone in. The lottery's taken him let's
Speaker 3: Look at.
Speaker 2: These pick let's look at the, draft order really fast
Speaker 2: because once you, start getting, DOWN there you're, like i
Speaker 2: don't know so you've got we know the top Four are,
Speaker 2: Spoken for, Orlando Five oklahoma, Six golden state seven, orlando
Speaker 2: again at Eight which.
Speaker 3: You think orlando will? Take him at eight good depends on.
Speaker 3: Who they take It If.
Speaker 2: They take scottie barnes let me, just Say this Now
Speaker 2: If orlando Takes Scottie barnes and davion mitchell, In this
Speaker 2: year's draft i'm. PUTTING out a state i mean this
Speaker 2: is that would be a Laughable Travesty such An Orlando magic.
Speaker 3: Slash sacramento Kings Move, thankfully the.
Speaker 1: Sacramento kings so okay but, Then at at nine sacramento,
Speaker 1: doesn't need a guard, So, they Have uh Orlando Or.
Speaker 1: Sacramento has buddy healed at The Two they have tyrese Haliburton,
Speaker 1: and they have fox so We know for sure sacramento is, not, drafting, A, Guard,
Speaker 1: Correct right yeah No then you've. Got memphis at ten
Speaker 1: Are You Gonna pair Memphis John.
Speaker 3: Morant, with davion mitchell no.
Speaker 2: Don't make no Sense then You've, got charlotte A Plethoraw,
Speaker 2: You've got DeVante Graham You've, got uh terry Rosier And,
Speaker 2: you've got LaMelo ball so they're not gonna. Take another
Speaker 2: point guard then you've got a bunch Of Point. Guards
Speaker 2: in san antonio all we don't know what's. Gonna happen
Speaker 2: with them But You Got, De jon ta murray you've,
Speaker 2: Got What's His. Name KYLE derek white so i don't
Speaker 2: know What say if san antonio, DECIDES to do. THAT
Speaker 2: i don't Think i don't SEE popovich being or rcbu
Speaker 2: for being super interested an. Undersized guard like that so
Speaker 2: then Now, you're talking about indiana is he GOING to in.
Speaker 2: The i don't know, like you've got guys And Then
Speaker 2: you've got golden state popping around at fourteen And what,
Speaker 2: If thwart day's there Then now.
Speaker 3: You've got, washington, Fifteen so Yeah no i'm not i'm.
Speaker 3: Not Huge on him so i'm that wasn't. Me vouching
Speaker 3: for him i've just seen him in the LOTTERY just.
Speaker 3: MOST places i, look, i feel Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah we'll see, franz wagner, another risky risky pick Mostly
Speaker 2: Because he, is, mo wagner's brother, right and, we, know
Speaker 2: we KNOW man?
Speaker 3: What do i say?
Speaker 2: You need to say he has NO real bag and,
Speaker 2: i love, the, bag you know, personally no offensive, moves
Speaker 2: no shaking bake no creation.
Speaker 1: Of his own shot he's never going to be a
Speaker 1: go to. Scorer in the league.
Speaker 3: He's pretty good shooter, pretty good shooter though.
Speaker 1: Good spot up shooter good. Off, the bounce shooter.
Speaker 3: Yeah if he can if he can DEVELOP into like
Speaker 3: an nba, ready like defensive player. He's got a role
Speaker 3: he's got should, probably have a role probably. A pretty
Speaker 3: good role if he can. Become really good, defense.
Speaker 1: If you are you could Be Like. A, better, duncan, robinson.
Speaker 3: Yeah better, way bigger and. Bigger bigger for sure? What
Speaker 3: is he six he's like Six, Nine Six nine yep duncan,
Speaker 3: robinson's six. Six yeah.
Speaker 2: Six seven, good defender can score but not score SCORE you?
Speaker 3: Know what i, mean you can.
Speaker 2: Score, Not Score score uh golden. STATE maybe at fourteen
Speaker 2: i think he would have a great. Role There at
Speaker 2: fourteen if torte, IS gone at ten i think he.
Speaker 3: Would Immediately Contribute there the golden state thing IS so
Speaker 3: weird because i mean it's. Hard To imagine them and kevin,
Speaker 3: O'Connor said this too and saying something like it's hard
Speaker 3: to imagine them Playing. Two, rookies and wiseman well They're Not,
Speaker 3: going to?
Speaker 1: KEITH wiseman are they.
Speaker 3: I mean, THEY could i mean i haven't. Heard much
Speaker 3: chattered lately steph is.
Speaker 1: Going to be unhappy.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be unhappy.
Speaker 2: They're trying to MOVE they, better get i mean, if
Speaker 2: they got sugs.
Speaker 1: That would, be nice you know, that would be.
Speaker 2: NICE that would, help i don't know if you got
Speaker 2: fourteen and seven, traded up to Three maybe gave him
Speaker 2: wiseman and then like they knew that they Weren't Going
Speaker 2: to keep jared allen and so they.
Speaker 1: Just, KEPT wise men, yeah i. Don't know.
Speaker 2: It's weird IT'S weird another guy i think Is Not,
Speaker 2: VERY Good isaiah, todd g league guy maybe THE Worst of.
Speaker 3: The, g league guys well it was funny because they
Speaker 3: were all, on the same team and he's the one
Speaker 3: that kind of like, no one cares, about, no one
Speaker 3: talked yeah no one. Hears About, yeah yeah, amongst yeah
Speaker 3: in reality If we're being blunt No One.
Speaker 2: Cares about isaiah todd he's slated to go in the mid.
Speaker 2: Early to mid twenties, not a good shooter and the
Speaker 2: book on him, just like athletically gifted as a lot
Speaker 2: of guys that.
Speaker 1: Are six' eight Are this is what the. Scouty report
Speaker 1: says on him the.
Speaker 2: Cons are his shot selection he settles for contested mid range.
Speaker 1: Jumpers, When he should pass okay.
Speaker 3: So it's a bad trade what? Does that mean?
Speaker 2: To, me bad, decision maker right not, thinking not A.
Speaker 2: Good thinker not great iq then. These two really concerned
Speaker 2: me prefers to play on the perimeter and doesn't make
Speaker 2: much of an impact rebounding the.
Speaker 3: Ball or.
Speaker 1: PROTECTING the basket hold pause.
Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking but there's another one that
Speaker 1: will make. You think it even more lacks.
Speaker 2: Toughness defending on the interior biggs plow, through them underneath
Speaker 2: the basket so we.
Speaker 1: Soft, and not very smart.
Speaker 3: Yeah and if, you're not contributing much rebounding that's a
Speaker 3: problem for a. Power. FORWARD center, for, sure yeah i mean.
Speaker 2: Yikes when you're not going top five to ten and
Speaker 2: you've PLAYED Significant, minutes in the g league and, no
Speaker 2: one cares about you and, you're MEASURING up against men
Speaker 2: which i think raises your stock because they just kind
Speaker 2: of like change the, Scale, that, you're, evaluated on like
Speaker 2: oh yeah you're. You're eighteen playing against men.
Speaker 3: It's. Not, a good sign no no he actually shot
Speaker 3: like okay in the g he shot like. Thirty six
Speaker 3: Percent from three.
Speaker 1: He should he wants to stay on, the perimeter, all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Right exactly and like what, they said about decision making like. He,
Speaker 3: WOULD settle for shots honestly i can kind of see
Speaker 3: how you could RUN Into that in the g league
Speaker 3: because it's not like because it's not like you're playing
Speaker 3: in college and you like really, give a shit about
Speaker 3: wins and like you got a bunch of fans that
Speaker 3: really care if, you win and if not like they're
Speaker 3: gonna Be, mean to, you on twitter and shit you're
Speaker 3: really there to put. Up NUMBERS and get stats so
Speaker 3: i can see how, LIKE a nineties.
Speaker 1: Suck passing i, need, TO just, shoot This right i
Speaker 1: mean and.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's good i'm not trying to, like
Speaker 3: MAKE excuses for that but i could see how a
Speaker 3: nineteen year old could FALL Into that in the g, league.
Speaker 2: Facts because nobody's like Hey Did you see What isaiah
Speaker 2: todd did on Tuesday Night.
Speaker 1: Against, the fucking iowa energy yeah And.
Speaker 3: You see in the summer. LEAGUE all the time too
Speaker 3: i mean to like maybe, Actually probably a similar extent
Speaker 3: Like they're not carry.
Speaker 1: Anthrety simon's put up like Fifty. Points, in, the summer.
Speaker 3: League yeah no you're getting your. Stats, his stat padding.
Speaker 2: SITUATION yeah Best landing spots i think brooklyn nets. Could
Speaker 2: be A good one isaiah, Or, DJ's on, the move.
Speaker 3: Yeah i mean that'd, be sick if they could if
Speaker 3: they could get. SOMEONE with that potential there. I think
Speaker 3: he might be i think he might be someone. Someone
Speaker 3: takes a.
Speaker 2: CHANCE on You think so i think clippers could. Use,
Speaker 2: him at twenty five yeah that would be an interesting because.
Speaker 2: They're good At developing guys. You got jerry in there.
Speaker 1: THEY need A big. MAN i think ebachus probably. I,
Speaker 1: THINK he might.
Speaker 3: Retire, really i don't. Know DAMN it's, not good.
Speaker 1: It's, i, mean he's not healthy right. So they need,
Speaker 1: Someone else maybe it's.
Speaker 2: Him Maybe It's not him wild cards alprin Shng goon. SIX'
Speaker 2: ten from turkey EIGHTEEN i think He Was. The, mvp
Speaker 2: of the turkish league yeah uh insane, if you've watched
Speaker 2: him at all his footwork for.
Speaker 3: Being that.
Speaker 1: Tall is fucking.
Speaker 3: Absurd he's massive he, his footwork he.
Speaker 1: Can just.
Speaker 3: Spin change pivot foots he can he's got.
Speaker 1: So much touch around, the rim he. Has a little
Speaker 1: tiny baby jumper i've.
Speaker 3: Definitely seen him.
Speaker 2: Shoot threes before i've seen him he, does have a
Speaker 2: crossover step back which is kind.
Speaker 1: Of wild for someone his Size he could be like. A,
Speaker 1: vosovich or some bonus Though. UPSIDE the absolute ceiling is.
Speaker 2: JOKIC i, don't think that's happening I don't but We
Speaker 2: didn't think joki would be yokich either at forty four.
Speaker 3: Or whatever you got drafted, ON one of the draft
Speaker 3: comparisons I Saw, he was compared to tom, googliata who
Speaker 3: is my favorite player who was. My FAVORITE player as.
Speaker 3: A child, so, I enjoyed THAT uh yeah no i
Speaker 3: mean i he. Shot super well from the field he
Speaker 3: shot Like Sixty, eight PERCENT in the turkish league SO.
Speaker 3: I Hope. HE won uh mvp yeah no i think
Speaker 3: he's a nice player that probably develops into at least
Speaker 3: like a decent role player like someone will like if
Speaker 3: he finds, his, way on a good team like. SOMEONE
Speaker 3: will find something to do i think this.
Speaker 2: CLIP is gonna get used again i think we're, at
Speaker 2: this moment Where you're, like he. COULD be we'll See
Speaker 2: We'll see i think possibly, oklahoma city might sneaky. Get,
Speaker 2: him Like maybe at six yeah Maybe Memphis is traded
Speaker 2: for uh steven adams And Maybe he plays.
Speaker 3: Four and, STEVEN adams plays. FIVE who knows i don't.
Speaker 3: Know i would love him there. Charlotte, Would, Be Incredible.
Speaker 3: For him lamello hayward.
Speaker 2: Miles bridges that's a, Fun team the kid can pass,
Speaker 2: he's got a.
Speaker 3: Lot of touch he can rebound. He also is quick to.
Speaker 3: Snatch he has got some toughness he's got some Toughness. For,
Speaker 3: LIKE a, GUY in europe yeah i mean i mean
Speaker 3: if he develops, his passing and like all that then
Speaker 3: He could become like a, diet, yokic kind of, That's,
Speaker 3: like yeah if he could yeah if. He could do something,
Speaker 3: like that it's a little. Slower but, not, by, a
Speaker 3: lot yeah Yeah Which. Yeah you can change. Jenny shorter
Speaker 3: he's not as big he's not gonna be able to
Speaker 3: like shoot over guys like.
Speaker 2: But he's he's you can develop a quick twitch like.
Speaker 2: You can, Fix THAT a little oh sure. SO i
Speaker 2: like him a lot i. Think Somebody might reach for
Speaker 2: him joshua giddy.
Speaker 1: Another guy who's moved UP. The draft boards from the, nbl.
Speaker 3: Cue The.
Speaker 1: Down onder music six' Eight, australia he's looked Great IN.
Speaker 1: The olympics. Look great against team usa ShredIt.
Speaker 2: Us he put, up fourteen against nigeria, he can pass
Speaker 2: he's got.
Speaker 3: COURT vision he's, got like decent floaters, i would say.
Speaker 2: Not a.
Speaker 3: GREAT shooter but at shooter yeah no i wouldn't say,
Speaker 3: shooting is necessarily, A strength right now but yeah no.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna go fairly high i, think he's probably.
Speaker 3: LOOKING at DEFINITELY lottery maybe top ten i.
Speaker 1: Think i think, somebody could end up reaching we'll say
Speaker 1: sort of a. REACH and sort of not a reach.
Speaker 2: I think any guy that's playing in the, pros and
Speaker 2: doing well like he's playing you Deserve A, Little More,
Speaker 2: credit than fucking scotty barnes Like orlando Why don't YOU
Speaker 2: take josh giddy over Scotty Barb, i hate Being Mean.
Speaker 1: To scotty barnes but like josh giddy don't you Think That's.
Speaker 3: A bit BETTER upside than. Scotty, BARNES i mean i probably.
Speaker 3: DO yeah I Mean he's just eighteen, i know, scotty, barnes, is,
Speaker 3: young Too but yeah no no no what i've seen of.
Speaker 3: HIM and like play professional ball already.
Speaker 2: I It Could be like a little diet Karis lavert
Speaker 2: Or or Or. Fit WITH fit With lavert and brogden
Speaker 2: but I think pacers could Be An.
Speaker 3: Interesting i, hate to, say joe, Ingles but yeah that's
Speaker 3: like it's okay it's So It's like the People That,
Speaker 3: said devin booker was like klay thompson like. Just, because
Speaker 3: he like looks, like, him.
Speaker 1: Yeah You Know it's like oh like Does davion mitchell
Speaker 1: really reminds you of?
Speaker 3: Drew or do they just look similar like?
Speaker 1: Are?
Speaker 3: They, JUST kind Of similar.
Speaker 1: Guys uh yeah i, think pacers could be interesting at
Speaker 1: thirteen but they.
Speaker 3: Might go? He Might, GO top five.
Speaker 2: Who knows usman garuba i.
Speaker 3: Think nobody, knows What. To make of this guy the
Speaker 3: spaniard there's, not a, lot of tape On. Him six' eight.
Speaker 2: Powerful playing in europe kevin O'Connor likes him kevin, O'Connor
Speaker 2: says that he, plays with elite effort elite intelligence that's
Speaker 2: good not, great at putting the basketball. In the hoop
Speaker 2: not ideal for playing basketball apparently he.
Speaker 1: IS a pretty, bad free throw shooter too i don't
Speaker 1: know is it worth taking a flyer. On a super
Speaker 1: athletic defender With Problematic.
Speaker 3: Offense.
Speaker 1: IT'S like, another situation like ben simmons again.
Speaker 3: I mean if he's just a bruiser and can go
Speaker 3: and give you like fifteen minutes where he's just, snatching
Speaker 3: every rebound and just knocking people around maybe maybe He's
Speaker 3: not a. BAD spot, for, like a clinton over Sure
Speaker 3: I mean yeah if, you, CAN get CLINT capella in
Speaker 3: the Twenties Yeah.
Speaker 1: I Mean i were like. A, DREW gooden drew gooden
Speaker 1: was a bruiser noah. I, mean, He, WENT like four
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 3: YEAH yeah no i mean he's not. SOMEONE i WOULD
Speaker 3: reach on by any stretch i think i think he's
Speaker 3: someone that like a, good team takes that a playoff
Speaker 3: team takes, like in the twenties or something like that
Speaker 3: statues him for a. LITTLE bit, and, Sees what he
Speaker 3: can do i think, okay se could maybe take. Him.
Speaker 1: At eighteen that'd Be a good. Fit atlanta maybe at.
Speaker 3: Twenty atlanta like that atlanta is interesting because they. Have,
Speaker 3: Like the freedom to do basically anything, yeah like they
Speaker 3: don't have any glaring holes so they kind of just they.
Speaker 2: Almost have too many people at every position they could
Speaker 2: kind of just decide to take a flyer that they think,
Speaker 2: has tremendous.
Speaker 3: UPSIDE and, Just.
Speaker 1: Say fuck it fuck it i, mean lakers At, twenty
Speaker 1: two could be interesting could be. Yeah, he does, have The.
Speaker 3: ABILITY to fall yeah give me give drummonds i actually. Do,
Speaker 3: LIKE him kind of In a. Way, yeah i, Kind Of,
Speaker 3: DO drummons.
Speaker 1: Minutes yeah this, kid, Joshua Primo a, lot of, DRAFT
Speaker 1: projections bammable bama bama boy six' four a.
Speaker 3: LOT of projections have him going.
Speaker 2: Late first round, i think he has a higher ceiling
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 3: Though he's got he's got.
Speaker 2: A good shooter's mentality he's not small six,' four i
Speaker 2: think his First step is slightly slow Which, is why
Speaker 2: people are but.
Speaker 3: They said that about luca they.
Speaker 1: SAID that the belt i'm, not comparing by, no MEANS
Speaker 1: i Just want to Say.
Speaker 3: By no means.
Speaker 2: Am i Comparing joshua primo to luka doncics at all
Speaker 2: but what i'm saying, is when people say that? Your
Speaker 2: FIRST step is.
Speaker 3: Slow like do they REALLY know like I, don't know.
Speaker 2: You had all this mvp, tape on luca and that
Speaker 2: was the. Book on him was that. His first step
Speaker 2: was slow. So, maybe, it's not slow maybe. We're evaluating
Speaker 2: him incorrectly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah this guy. Can THOUGH yeah He can hit
Speaker 3: yeah he can hit.
Speaker 1: So i think houston could be interesting at twenty three, nuggets.
Speaker 1: COULD be really interesting at twenty six sixers.
Speaker 3: Too sixers i Like it depends, On where he felt
Speaker 3: like even like phoenix could, maybe like, it really just
Speaker 3: depends on WHERE he falls because like this is another
Speaker 3: guy that i think someone may just fall in love
Speaker 3: with him in pre draft and like. EITHER trade up
Speaker 3: and get him or something like. THAT i think he's. Actually,
Speaker 3: a decent, candidate.
Speaker 2: For that i think, so too yeah he's smart he
Speaker 2: can shoot from deep he can.
Speaker 3: Create AND can get his own shot off the balance like.
Speaker 1: I think he.
Speaker 3: Could end, UP really helping a team with his Offense.
Speaker 2: So, yeah i think he would, be great in phoenix
Speaker 2: yeah like As a succession.
Speaker 3: Plan, HE probably won't last. Till that.
Speaker 1: LONG twenty nine no. I don't think so.
Speaker 2: FLYERS guys i have. Zero Clue there's no best fits I.
Speaker 2: Have No idea isaiah jackson six' ten freshman at kentucky
Speaker 2: apparently coach, cal Is Like he has so much more upside.
Speaker 1: To. Go like coach kel gives him the stamp of.
Speaker 2: Approval downside he is, SIX ten and two o six.
Speaker 2: As A as a comparison i look This up Earlier
Speaker 2: today DeAndre ayton.
Speaker 3: When he, got, to.
Speaker 1: The university of arizona was two Thirty.
Speaker 2: GAINED no yeah gained twenty pounds his freshman year at
Speaker 2: arizona i know he's seven. To one and he became
Speaker 2: two fifty on the. WAY out so this, kid is.
Speaker 2: Two six And Six ten? I mean he's tiny. He's
Speaker 2: THIN what is kevin durant two i.
Speaker 3: Couldn't tell you. I'm i mean The kids the kidny's
Speaker 3: hgh he DEFINITELY doesn't he does not. He does not
Speaker 3: shoot threes like i don't think he shot he May.
Speaker 3: Have shot like one or two like all season at
Speaker 3: kentucky and that's a massive, Problem for bigs that you're
Speaker 3: not even taking them in college like. You're not even
Speaker 3: taking what if coach cal, didn't let him that doesn't
Speaker 3: sound like SOMETHING he, would do unless he's, just so
Speaker 3: bad that like i mean. Which which, either way like
Speaker 3: it just proves that he's bad so yeah, that's just,
Speaker 3: that's a that's a problem in a developing.
Speaker 2: Player say though and coach cout is known for, developing
Speaker 2: guys and so if you don't have a shot? NOW will,
Speaker 2: You have a shot three. Four years from now i
Speaker 2: mean DeAndre eighth, was hitting threes he doesn't. Even need
Speaker 2: to shoot. Threes now but he can take threes he. Can,
Speaker 2: Hit threes i've seen it. With My own two Eyes.
Speaker 2: Man i'm gonna, Butcher this name. IO desumo OUT of illinois.
Speaker 3: Six, to three ye.
Speaker 1: Flashy guard i think i said it.
Speaker 2: Right, hard working junior uh so he's a little old
Speaker 2: six three probably, Closer to six to one and a
Speaker 2: half six.
Speaker 1: To two so he's he's they're probably lying about his age.
Speaker 3: Anyone who's like anyone who they don't say a.
Speaker 2: Six, three AND a half is. REALLY probably under sixty
Speaker 2: three yeah maybe i. Don't trust it a. Wild fucking
Speaker 2: passer all over the place scouts like his, Defense do
Speaker 2: you think that scouts are overrating. DEFENSE right now like
Speaker 2: just where we are in the moment i think.
Speaker 3: It always just becomes a thing in the draft, process
Speaker 3: just because you're trying to look at anything and everything
Speaker 3: and like, you maybe, do that because you're trying to like.
Speaker 3: Balance out you know how good you, think a player
Speaker 3: is but at the end of, The day like they
Speaker 3: got to be able to make, baskets like even if
Speaker 3: you are drafting them for their defense. They got, to,
Speaker 3: BE able to like kind of make baskets. And, YEAH
Speaker 3: no i think that's something you definitely run into yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean when the downside people are saying.
Speaker 2: Is, WHETHER you can get open looks at the next
Speaker 2: level yeah i mean they're lying about your, HEIGHT there
Speaker 2: this stages are and he. Turns the ball over i
Speaker 2: don't know where He's gonna go.
Speaker 3: But this is actually one of the guys, i'm looking
Speaker 3: AT for for for ME mix a little bit which,
Speaker 3: because i know he'll actually. I don't know he'll. Be
Speaker 3: there but he might be there? Chance, HE'LL be there
Speaker 3: do you think. He will fit in maybe i mean
Speaker 3: probably not right away i'm Not Saying he'll come, in
Speaker 3: AND like get minutes on the western conference. Champions immediately
Speaker 3: but i kind of like what.
Speaker 1: He.
Speaker 3: Could do this is maybe my personal most.
Speaker 2: Intriguing pick Uh, he's Probably gonna go into the second
Speaker 2: round and if, portland if portland somehow someway CAN get
Speaker 2: a second round pick this would.
Speaker 1: Be the. One I would want them, To use.
Speaker 3: It on i'm excited.
Speaker 2: Isaiah livers okay six seven michigan forward he would have
Speaker 2: a hundred percent been. A first round pick if he
Speaker 2: wouldn't have fractured his, foot and now. He's a mid
Speaker 2: to late second round pick which is wild that disparity between,
Speaker 2: foreshore first round and mid second round for a, Foot
Speaker 2: break it's not.
Speaker 3: Even any look at its tear babies. Like it's just
Speaker 3: bones now.
Speaker 1: That shit is, coming right back you're gonna snap right back.
Speaker 3: He is long he can shoot forty. Three, percent from
Speaker 3: three he. Can definitely shoot fill it, up yeah and that?
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter like that little foot Break what does. That matter,
Speaker 2: very Good defender cost me. My michigan futures, Bet OH gosh.
Speaker 3: Your michigan futures. Bet Downside he's twenty. THREE but, i
Speaker 3: don't give a, fuck damian lillard's thirty, one i mean
Speaker 3: when you're picking late, WHEN you're picking late like especially like.
Speaker 3: In the second round i think you, stop thinking about age. You're. Really,
Speaker 3: Only THINKING about the, Age LIKE the tottery lottery.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah so i like, him like i think he could.
Speaker 2: BE really good for us.
Speaker 3: Like a like? A six seven i LIKE that six. Seven,
Speaker 3: who can shoot Ye Like. An mp mpj but thicker
Speaker 3: yeah We talked about isaiah jackson He's, like twenty pounds,
Speaker 3: heavier than isaiah jack, At, SIX seven yeah.
Speaker 1: SIX seven yeah. Two thirty something.
Speaker 2: Right yeah i like that i like that. That concludes
Speaker 2: it that concludes. The draft portion of the, show gonna
Speaker 2: be interesting to? Watch if you had one surprise what
Speaker 2: would your surprise be you have to give me just
Speaker 2: one thing that, You. Think might happen.
Speaker 1: THAT is like. GONNA shake shit.
Speaker 3: Up kley that's SO tough I think it i think
Speaker 3: we might See Like i mean i kind of. Or
Speaker 3: said it like isaiah todd somewhere to him going. Earlier
Speaker 3: but that, wouldn't like really move. THE needle, that.
Speaker 1: Much won't splash me that's? NOT splash me i.
Speaker 3: Mean would you? Consider, kaminga, AT five i would consider.
Speaker 1: That a splash.
Speaker 3: Then yeah okay i think That's Very.
Speaker 1: Possible comminga at five.
Speaker 2: I've got two splashes one detroit. Tray's the number, One
Speaker 2: pick i've, BEEN saying it all year.
Speaker 3: If it happens if. It happens, i need you to
Speaker 3: just text me right away oh yeah just.
Speaker 2: Text, me right away with like a smiley emoji or something.
Speaker 3: Well usually by this point it's like there there's, like
Speaker 3: been talks of like, oh like their contracts almost said
Speaker 3: or like stuff like that Or like oh like we
Speaker 3: saw like kid, like talking with detroit on the phone.
Speaker 3: Or something, LIKE that AND we haven't we haven't seen
Speaker 3: That so Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think i saw something there was like, detroit likes
Speaker 2: kate still.
Speaker 1: NOT committed one hundred percent to him.
Speaker 2: STILL evaluating all options i think that would shake shit
Speaker 2: up i Think Then that would Fuck, all OF the
Speaker 2: Plans up that golden state Has with cleveland because i,
Speaker 2: think cleveland Might try to grab Kate and maybe who
Speaker 2: knows maybe then Houston Ends up taking evan and then
Speaker 2: he Goes, three to jalen green ends up going, three
Speaker 2: to the pistons And That's who they. Wanted all along
Speaker 2: kind of like a celtics sixers trade.
Speaker 1: Scenario one of those things that would shake Shit Up
Speaker 1: fast that would put.
Speaker 2: A wrench in anything that golden state Would Want to
Speaker 2: do i think the second.
Speaker 3: One is, that golden, state. End up like moving, those
Speaker 3: picks oh yeah they yeah yeah we could see that.
Speaker 2: Either Moving them and Getting sugs or moving them all
Speaker 2: together with wiggins, and WISE men and then end.
Speaker 1: UP getting, some major player which I think would be.
Speaker 3: Dun't i mean that'd be a bit you. BETTER get,
Speaker 3: all star level, Player IF you're sending that much i.
Speaker 3: Mean that's facts facts.
Speaker 2: SO i think that would be it that's my main surprise. I,
Speaker 2: KNOW that there will be One That we cannot foresee.
Speaker 3: Yeah i want to talk about cam thomas for a,
Speaker 3: second little tiny SCORING Guard, HE actually he's not that
Speaker 3: Tiny But guard. At lsu yes i think, he HAS
Speaker 3: like lou williams. Potential he can fill.
Speaker 2: It up so i Think You're right he will not
Speaker 2: start though he is will. Lou williams POTENTIAL in the
Speaker 2: sense That He can get buckets the. Thing i don't
Speaker 2: like about cam thomas is around the, rim it always
Speaker 2: feels like he's an under the rim scorer like he's.
Speaker 2: Always coming down when he's when he's finally, Letting IT
Speaker 2: go his.
Speaker 3: Lay a package needs work for. SURE but i mean
Speaker 3: he's got a great. Mid, RANGE game i think he.
Speaker 3: Could really help the team yeah i? Think he could
Speaker 3: help where Do? You think he'll he'll go do you?
Speaker 3: Like him for phoenix do you, think, he'd go. Twenty
Speaker 3: nine because that would. Be a great good Great spot,
Speaker 3: he's definitely one OF those.
Speaker 2: He feels like a phoenix player you. Know what i
Speaker 2: mean he's like great in the mid range he has
Speaker 2: an interesting shot like sort.
Speaker 3: OF two piece.
Speaker 1: Two piece has he like.
Speaker 3: But, once he i don't know he's got. An interesting
Speaker 3: like rise but, his like release is, like THAT.
Speaker 1: He has a smooth release but, the rise pause which
Speaker 1: i think is.
Speaker 3: Great, for mid range but. HE he pauses.
Speaker 2: EVEN from deep, Yeah he kind of does I like.
Speaker 2: Him i like him but you you're for THE lsu.
Speaker 3: GUYS i'm not, so IT'S a LITTLE bit of lsu
Speaker 3: bias i WON'T lie but i just i he's falling
Speaker 3: on boards. And, i don't? Really know why? Because of
Speaker 3: his layup package yeah who? Else, do you like give
Speaker 3: any OTHER names before we go no you kind of
Speaker 3: covered like i actually. KIND of Like Some of the.
Speaker 3: GUYS that You Don't like i, think isaiah, todd has.
Speaker 3: POTENTIAL i think isaiah jackson does have you know decent potential.
Speaker 3: I don't, really have any other names To Really. THROW
Speaker 3: out i mean. What's the duke. Guy, like jalen johnson
Speaker 3: i think he's interesting he is interesting yeah but even,
Speaker 3: though like a lot of. People now, THINK he can't
Speaker 3: shoot he's falling a little bit but like i think.
Speaker 3: Someone's gonna, be happy with The Value they get.
Speaker 1: With him one question do you think ben simmons's playoff? Performance?
Speaker 3: Changed at? All? HOW people saw. PROSPECTS in the draft yes.
Speaker 2: Or no, yeah i did too i, think it changed
Speaker 2: everything They're like if you're not gonna shoot you.
Speaker 3: Could be a max guy in big. Moments and you.
Speaker 1: Would just pass it all the way up, if you
Speaker 1: can't shoot?
Speaker 2: Free throws AND you're not gonna shoot what are, We
Speaker 2: Doing and, that's, I Think, It's changed, My, mind Too Like.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh scotty bars i'm like nope not scottie
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