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Speaker 1: I don't know about Some of those things were true,

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Speaker 1: No, No, he's got a hell of a puncher's chance

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Speaker 2: I mean, just going to crazy levels. So, Luke, this

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Speaker 1: It's funny that you're showing the twelfth round here, because

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Speaker 2: wilder mental you know, makeup talk for a second, Luke,

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Speaker 2: To set this up right here. What's interesting is what

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Speaker 2: But what it did, Luke was show Fury that he

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Speaker 2: Head of the first fight, they realized that Wilder does

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Speaker 2: to Luis Ortiz right. I've talked a lot about how

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Speaker 2: this is what I asked Deontay. Are you gonna use

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Speaker 1: You're definitely gonna.

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Speaker 1: We're looking more towards the Stevern Wilder.

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Speaker 3: You know, as you see my demeanor, even from the

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Speaker 3: My demeanor about myself is very calm, and and that

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Speaker 2: Luke. I want to ask you a key question about

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think he's gonna happen. Dude, there's no

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Speaker 2: I mean that that's the whole key here. This ain't

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Speaker 2: Is that smart in your eyes for Fury to utilize

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Speaker 1: Yes it is. I mean, just understand something, dude, what

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Speaker 1: the big time hammer from the right hand. Okay, fair enough,

429
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Speaker 1: and that's a good one. It's got him damn far.

430
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Speaker 1: But what's been the biggest problem, the biggest problem in

431
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Speaker 1: fight one and fight two, he just got steamrolls so

432
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: it was even hard to see. But certainly. The through

433
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: line between them is he has a hard time on

434
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Speaker 1: his own at distance creating openings. He has to wait

435
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: for openings to materialize from an extended opponent. So once

436
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: the opponent does something, sometimes he's able to react to it,

437
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: but he can't find a way to open the door.

438
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: Someone has to open the door for him before he

439
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Speaker 1: goes in. The question is is he going to be

440
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: able to do that this time? If you're on your heels,

441
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: I have a hard time. But the reason why he

442
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: just got steamrolled the second one was because there was

443
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: no orbiting space between them. Tyson was right up on him.

444
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: He didn't there there was no space to wait for

445
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: that door to be opened for you. Just getting run

446
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: over this time. I think there's going to have to

447
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: be a little bit of patience from Fury a little

448
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: bit early. I do think that Malik Scott probably tried

449
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: to show some things, including with the bodywork, to begin

450
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: to open the doors for you. So you're asking about

451
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: the same game plan, identical game plan like truly identical, no,

452
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: but with the same principles involved. Smother him, back him up,

453
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: put him on the ropes when possible, and then just

454
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: let the difference in the boxing come to life, he'll

455
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: have to have a different set of tactics involved to

456
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Speaker 1: deal with that new pressure and then again to sort

457
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Speaker 1: of figure it out late. But this the general orientation

458
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Speaker 1: of driving into him, and we did a whole thing

459
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Speaker 1: undissected for it if you want to see it here

460
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: in the morning did nicely. People seem to like that one,

461
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: so go check that one out. That was key, key, key,

462
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: And then he was always outside of the jabbing range.

463
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: He wuld double jab his way inside. Some of all

464
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: that may change, but the orientation is the same.

465
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Speaker 2: I think the body punching will be most key for

466
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Speaker 2: while they're in close, actually, because while there is like

467
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: most heavy ways to be fair even historically not a

468
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 2: good inside fighter at all, in fact, doesn't even show

469
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: good sort of basic foundational know how of how to defend,

470
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Speaker 2: especially against a bigger man. By the way, how often

471
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: is Deontay Wilder going to be in there with a

472
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 2: bigger man when he's six foot seven. But in this case, Fury,

473
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Speaker 2: in that second fight, Luke came in heavier, used the

474
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Speaker 2: bigger man tactics. I think that he was forced to

475
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Speaker 2: use out of necessity, meaning Fury and that Auto Volleen fight,

476
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Speaker 2: which now which I think was an interesting turning point

477
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: where we all thought he was gonna, you know, maybe

478
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: mop the floor with Valeen, even though Otto was unbeaten

479
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: coming in. And by the way, Otto Voaleen's got a

480
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: big fight later this month against Dillian White on his own,

481
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: so that's going to be interesting. But you know, against Voleen,

482
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: once he had that he had to fight big man style,

483
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: Suddenly he had to walk him down, lean on him.

484
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: This is where the body punching for me is going

485
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: to be key for Wilder. He doesn't have the inside

486
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: fighting like a Fury has, like a Ritick Bow has had,

487
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: like a Lennox Lewis, like so few big men in

488
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: history have had. So when they clinch, when Fury attempts

489
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: to lay on him, and let's be fair, Luke Fury

490
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 2: can do some of those Bernard Hopkins dirty tricks too

491
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: inside to try to get one up on you, I

492
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: think that's when Wilder's got to explode to the body

493
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: and let him know that you can't lean on me,

494
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 2: you can't bully me. That's key. But look, I think

495
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: it goes without saying here. Wilder's going to have to

496
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Speaker 2: gain back respect. I think as early as round one.

497
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Speaker 2: While I don't want to see a bat out of hell,

498
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: Wilder gas himself out comically going for the ko and

499
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: get caught and get floored in round one, I need

500
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: him to be the aggressor. Here's why that's most important.

501
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 2: We just established that Wilder does his best work from distance.

502
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: Without question, you cannot create that distance without landing something big.

503
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 2: And if it's not gonna come through his jab, which

504
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: I don't think he has enough confidence in knowing that

505
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: Fury has the longer reach and encounter him, it's got

506
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: to come through him landing a big right early. That

507
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: lets Tyson Fury know you can't walk me down. If

508
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: that happens, Luke, we're gonna see a hybrid of what

509
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: the first and second fight look like. And you have

510
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: to believe that opens the door for Wilder to find

511
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: success if there is a path at all.

512
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that is a that is a probable scenario.

513
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: But it just that the whole thing almost relies a

514
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: little bit too much on Tyson Fury not having any

515
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: agency here like he'll like Tyson Fury is just kind

516
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: of waiting for Deontay Wilder to do something, which again

517
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: he did a lot of that in the first fight.

518
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: Maybe he goes back to that for other reasons. Maybe

519
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: maybe some of this will involve a little bit of

520
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: ropidope where he wants Wilder to come forward and think

521
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: he can get the big body shots off, and he

522
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: just kind of rolls with it, and then Wilder is

523
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: sucking win. Because, by the way, here's the fact that

524
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about. I want to see when he

525
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: comes and weighs in on the scale. My man's been

526
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: in the weight room. Listen, Being in the weight room

527
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: is fun, especially when you get them gains. The shoulders

528
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: start to get three D, the chest starts to pop out,

529
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: the back starts to look like a turtle shell. Those

530
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: are good times in your life. But the problem is

531
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: it slows you down. It can make his stiffer a

532
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: little bit. It's hard to move. Not every time you

533
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: go to the weight room is it athletically beneficial for you,

534
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 1: especially if you're something as specific of a sport as boxing.

535
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: So I want to see what that extra weight does

536
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: for him. It's gonna make the hammer even bigger, but

537
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: it might make some other things a little bit slower.

538
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: If Tyson Ferry plays it where he wants to just

539
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: kind of roll with it. Some of those things can

540
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: get going again. Dude. Here's the thing. I can see

541
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: pieces of rounds or maybe even rounds together where some

542
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: measure of success can be put together for Wilder, And

543
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: of course he always has the great equalizer. But I

544
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 1: just feel like as each minute passes the difference in

545
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: skill level, Wilder can only swim at that level right

546
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: with the current, with that kind of speed and the

547
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: undertoe going what is going for a little while. But

548
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Fury is he's got gills, and so it's just at

549
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: some point that will give if they do it long enough.

550
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: That the task for Wilders to make sure it doesn't

551
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: go that long.

552
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: No, I think that. I think that's a good way

553
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: to look at it. As we look at the officials

554
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: for this one, Luke the Nevada Athletic Commission appointing them

555
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: two of the three judges originally chosen for Fury Wilder.

556
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: Three will score this rescheduled fight. It's gonna be Tim Cheatham,

557
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: Dave Moretti. I'm trying to track down the third. Oh,

558
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Patricia Morse Jarman will be the third one. Luke, I

559
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: believe we had a late referee change. Originally it was

560
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: Connecticut's Mike Ortega, now it'll be Russell Mora. I don't

561
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: think that changes much there. But I want to ask

562
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 2: you in regards to the to the quote unquote controversy

563
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: about the stoppage in the first in the second fight

564
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: and which of course, while they're let Mark Breland go

565
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: maybe the only voice of reason in the corner and

566
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: the team, you know, or assenting one or challenging one

567
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: looking out for his safety while they're told me on

568
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: morning combat, you know, you don't throw the towel in

569
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: in a warrior sport when you a warrior and a

570
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: king like me, I've got the biggest equalizer. I'm the

571
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: most dangerous puncher in the history of this sport. You know.

572
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: He went on to say in on the Chris Mannis pod,

573
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: which he said before you know, I'm willing to die

574
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: in the ring, Luke, if things start to go bad

575
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: for a while there, do you believe Malik Scott? You know,

576
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: is there is there a line? Could it go past

577
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 2: the line where Malik Scott throws in the towel or

578
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 2: do you think this all lies on Russell Morris's shoulders

579
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Speaker 2: to take into account this quote unquote controversy and be

580
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Speaker 2: smart here.

581
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Speaker 1: Jesus. First of all, Deontay's answer is terrible. I mean,

582
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: it's the worst for a warrior and a king like me.

583
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: You are just saying words. What does that mean? Are

584
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: you saying you have a right to kill yourself in

585
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: front of other people with government sanctioning if you so choose,

586
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying, because you don't. You don't have

587
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: a right to do that, not in this particular way.

588
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: The boxing ring is not where people can just elect

589
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: to die in front of others. We recognize that risks

590
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: happen in that way, but as a you know I am,

591
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I am electing to be permanently damaged in one fell

592
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: swoop to the point where you know, I die in

593
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: the hospital a day later, You're not. You're not allowed

594
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: to ask the government to do that on your behalf.

595
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: So the whole idea and then dressing it up in

596
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: this language of heroics is just the most demented thing.

597
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: Just be honest about to interrupt you for good reasons.

598
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: While you're right, he's not saying I will I have

599
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: that right to die in the ring, so let me

600
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: try it. He's saying, I'm a knockout puncher. There are

601
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: no scenario where I'm not out of this fight. That's

602
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: really what he's saying.

603
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, he said a lot of different things. I mean,

604
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: that is also one thing that he said. That's right.

605
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: He has dressed it up a little bit differently, which

606
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: is I've always if anyone's got knockout power late, it's me.

607
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: To his credit, we have seen knockout power for him late.

608
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: Obviously he didn't get the full knockout test and fury,

609
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: but he put him on his ass in a way

610
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: that it looked like his power carried deep in fights. Okay,

611
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: fair enough, But number one, why are you talking about

612
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: yourself in literally royal language? Do you have a palace

613
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: in Versailles? Stop that number one. Number two, he has

614
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: in other ways made the argument that if I want

615
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: to go out and die doing this, I should be

616
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: allowed to know. Dude, this memo to fighters. You're not

617
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: allowed to do that. It's a risk that is run.

618
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: But in seeking that out and in saying the guard

619
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Speaker 1: rails that we put on this to make it a

620
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: palatable government sanctioned affair, should just be thrown out because

621
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: you don't like them, where you feel like you have

622
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: a right to die in front of others. In this way,

623
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Speaker 1: it's absurd. It's the most absurd logic ever. So I

624
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: don't know what Malik Scott is going to do, but

625
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, Russell Mora has to know

626
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: what he has on his hands here. He did not

627
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: live in a vacuum. He saw what happened in the

628
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: second fight. He saw the aftermath of what happened in

629
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Speaker 1: the second fight. So answer your question, BC, Not only

630
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: do I expect Russell Mooret to be a little bit

631
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: more on edge, I probably do imagine he might pull

632
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: the trigger a little bit earlier if the moment calls

633
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: for it. But I guess, well, there's no way to know.

634
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: We'll see.

635
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless Nevada points Jack Kavorkian as the referee for this,

636
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: You're probably right. Let's put a bow on it here.

637
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: Luke can get to the prediction before we do. Quickly,

638
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to recome back to what I mentioned, circle

639
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 2: back around to the mental standing out one more quick

640
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: clip for you. Look, I'll give wi Olither of this credit.

641
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: Although he's blamed everyone but himself He did tell me

642
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: in the interview that he thinks the loss against Fury

643
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: was maybe what he needed, So there's there's some humility

644
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: in that, Luke. But he did go on to when

645
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: I asked him straight up, do you feel in any

646
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: way like you've been mischaracterized in the narratives put out

647
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: by the media and others heading into this fight. Here's

648
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: his take on this topic.

649
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: It was very unfair, you know, and that you know,

650
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: I can truly say that I brought you know, the

651
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: heavyweight division back on scene, being the first American champion

652
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: in a decade to bring it back, and you know,

653
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: and how to media cling to this english man you

654
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: know what happened to Team USA and all that. You

655
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 3: know what I mean, It don't make no sense. But

656
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: but God is good. That's why I don't deal with

657
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: a lot of people. I can't deal with fakery, you know.

658
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: I don't deal with two faced people. You know, one

659
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: minute is this way, and then behind clord doors is

660
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: next minute, and then when you see me, hey Champ,

661
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: now I get out of my face, you know, And uh,

662
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: that's just my energy. You know, a lot of this

663
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: energy I've had, I've already felt around certain people. I

664
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: knew that it would takes that. I knew it would

665
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: take that me losing or falling down for them to

666
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: show true colors. And it was only confirmation for me,

667
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. I appreciate them showing true colors

668
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: and confirmation. My grass is always cut at this point

669
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: in time. Well you know, if snakes do slither around

670
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: in it, I can least see it no matter what

671
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: color it is, and it's gonna be amazing.

672
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: You know, my spirit is very high, my energy is.

673
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: Very joyful, and my aura around me is very peaceful.

674
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: So you have a happy fighter and you have so

675
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: much positivity around him.

676
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: What could go wrong?

677
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: Look lots that This troubles me a lot. Look I'm

678
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you. If he's claiming that Fury

679
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: cheat in the second and he won't get off that

680
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: and that's what he needs to feel invincible again, I'm saying,

681
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: if that's his truth and it helps him be better,

682
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 2: we can all just go, Okay, that's fine. This is

683
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: the wrong lane for me, So let me go some

684
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: full disclosure here. What he's referencing there is he thinks

685
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: the American media should automatically like over fluff him up

686
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: because he's facing a foreign fighter. Look, he had the

687
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: same reaction after the first Fury fight when most of

688
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: the American media said, look, we thought Fury won that

689
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: and the judges got it wrong. He felt that was

690
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: a betrayal and full disclosure here, Lukey, he almost walked

691
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: out of this interview. I give him credit for doing

692
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: that with me yesterday. But when he initially heard my name,

693
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: he walked out and said, no, that guy's two face,

694
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: that guy's a snake. And we talked. We kind of

695
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: got him to sit back down. He thought maybe he

696
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: he misconstrued my name in my face, maybe thought I

697
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: was somebody else who worked for someone else. I don't know, Luke,

698
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: I don't really know what happened, to be honest with you,

699
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: but there was about a five minute gap there or

700
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: he wasn't gonna do the interview, and then he sat down. Look,

701
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: we gotta be real here. You can't be fighting with

702
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: media members. You can be fighting with me and my

703
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: basement here. You gotta go fight Fury like this should

704
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: be the least of your worries. If we turned on

705
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: you after you lost, quote unquote turned on you because

706
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: we you know scored a fight against you or thought

707
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: your reaction to it was poor. It was poor, Luke.

708
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: If this is like the road he's gonna go down

709
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: and the h the hill he has you know, potential

710
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: to fall on, this is this is the wrong lane, bro.

711
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: This is troubling to me as I really look to

712
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: handicap this third fight.

713
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Dude, I've I've seen fighters get I never bemoan a

714
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: fighter getting bitter with the media. You know, some of

715
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: them are more defensible than others. But if you'll if

716
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: you'll spar with the media number this is what fighters

717
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: just don't realize. If you'll spar with the media a

718
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: little bit and like defend yourself against what you felt

719
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: was unfair headlines, more often than not, they'll just back down.

720
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I've seen it. Not all the time, but it does

721
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: happen a fair degree and it opens the doors to

722
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: communication where it then creates fair coverage going forward. They

723
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: never seem to realize that. They just seemed to always

724
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: like want want a beef with them. I don't know why,

725
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: but uh, neither here nor there. The point being is BC,

726
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: name a fighter that you saw have a just an

727
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: unbelievable performance by holding a grudge against the media, not

728
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: sparring with them, because Floyd will spar with them. I

729
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: have seen Floyd do it to us. I saw him

730
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: do a backstage at the Howard Theater to then ESPN

731
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: reporter Dan Rayfiel about some other issues that were happening

732
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: before the Canelo fight. He'll do it, but then he'll

733
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: just talk to you later on. Again. He realizes that

734
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: you want to use them to change the narrative, but

735
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: they're not. They didn't betray you. You're not at war

736
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: with them, dude. Deontae is fully on the other side

737
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: of that, where like, literally, because we have the same nationality,

738
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: I have to give Fury less favorable coverage. It's the

739
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: most insane thing I've ever heard. And again, this is

740
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: what I mean about reconciling. When I say reconciling BC,

741
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: we should examine that for a second. Reconciling with the

742
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: second fight means probably a couple of things. One here

743
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: are tactically the things that went wrong, right Ah, you know,

744
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: I didn't see this, and he set it up that way,

745
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: getting Malik Scott to go through the x's and the o's.

746
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: That's one. The other one is just looking in there

747
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: and saying, a better guy beat me that night I lost.

748
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: He hasn't done any of that. He hasn't examined the

749
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: x's and o's Malik has. I'll give him credit for that,

750
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But the other part about a better guy

751
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: on that night beat me, he hasn't internalized that. And

752
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: why is that so important? Bec We just saw in

753
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: the wrestling world Jordan Burr. He didn't even make the

754
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: Olympic squad, but he internalized that loss, he accepted it,

755
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: and then came back around and won another world title,

756
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: his fifth world championship. That's what I'm talking about. That's

757
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: reconciling with loss and then using that to regroup, retool, reframe,

758
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: and get your athletic success going again. Wild. There is

759
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: nowhere near that again. Dude, he's got the equalizer. Once

760
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: he hits the home run, the game's over. That's how

761
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: big his power is. But Buddy, I'm telling you he

762
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: might be in for a rude awakening.

763
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: That's a that's an eye opener to me. As I

764
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: look at you know, you have to take into account

765
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: the mental state, the physical state, all of that. Let's

766
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: get into the prediction of preview here. Once again. DraftKings

767
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: has the line currently like this minus two ninety five

768
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: fear of your favorite plus two thirty five the very

769
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: dangerous Deontay Wilder, Luke Thomas, who wins? Why and when?

770
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: I I respect the power punching of Deontay Wilder. I

771
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: respect how it is historically significant power, not just big power,

772
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: not just sort of a flowery way to describe a

773
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: strong athlete. It's the kind of power that will go

774
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: down in the record books. At the same time, he

775
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: is not the boxer that Tyson Fury is, and I

776
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: don't think he ever will be. I suspect he will

777
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: have a little bit of success at certain intervals of

778
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: this fight, but over time he will be stopped. I

779
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: said on HQ around the seventh CBS Sports HQ, excuse me,

780
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: around the seventh. Maybe he'll push it to the ninth

781
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: to b C. I would be very surprised if this

782
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: fight hits the championship Browns and I would be extremely surprised.

783
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: I guess, even with that power. To be honest with you,

784
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 1: if Wilder wins, I like Tyson Fury to retain.

785
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Tyson Fury by fifth round stoppage. I

786
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: actually will not be surprised if Fury has to take

787
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: a bit of damage, even to the level of a

788
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: knockdown Luke. But we've seen the warriors spirit within him,

789
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: and if he's gonna keep coming forward on Wilder and

790
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: bullying the bully, it's gonna be I want to say

791
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: a long night, but a short one for Wilder. Give

792
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: me the Fury victory, maybe maybe in the best fight

793
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: of the three, at least in terms of compressed action.

794
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: Let's see that. Quick shout out to the undercard, because

795
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: the folks at PBC and Top Rank have conspired nicely

796
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 2: here on the off TV You'll get a Julian Williams comeback,

797
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 2: which would be good to see the former unified Junior

798
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: Middleway champion. You're also going to get knockout sensation Edgar

799
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Berlanga of Top Rank, Luke, the future potential Puerto Rican

800
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: stud there from New York City who has finished every

801
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: guy in the first round but one but Luke. On

802
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: this pay per view main card, it's all heavyweights, Fia Jogun,

803
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: Frank Sanchez, that Colemyanne should be very fun. The rematch

804
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: between Adam Kovnatski and Robert Helenius Hellnius won by upset

805
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: knockout before the pandemic. And also big baby Jared Anderson,

806
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: not the other big baby, the guy that does the

807
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: drugs against Vladimir Tereshkins. So it should be a fun night.

808
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: Let's go here. As our producers say, bro, enough boxing, Okay,

809
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: can we get to the MMA. We'll do that right now.

810
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: UFC Fight Night has Luke a not overly impressive card

811
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: for Saturday, but at main event, I want to see

812
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: you and just a heads up, you're gonna get this

813
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: boxing fight later at night, but four pm Eastern is

814
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 2: your main card. Star art for the UFC in Las

815
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: Vegas strawweights as Mackenzie Dern looks to take probably the

816
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: biggest step in her rise toward potential title contention here

817
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: at one one five when she takes on Marina Rodriguez,

818
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: the Brazilian fresh off stopping Amanda Heboss, a favorite of

819
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: this show, Luke in most tattoo circles, Hey, Luke, this

820
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 2: is a pretty damn good matchup with the grappler Dern

821
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: against the very good muy Thai of Hadriguez. What are

822
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: your thoughts entering into a very close one? Betting odds

823
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: wise on paper.

824
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: Uh, this is a great fight. This is good matchmaking.

825
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: I really feel like UFC matchmaking these days.

826
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: BC.

827
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you feel the same, but I

828
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: just feel like they're firing on not all cylinders, most cylinders.

829
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: This is a great one. Man. So I did some

830
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: watching of some fights in preparation for today's show of

831
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Durn to refresh my memory, and I wanted to go

832
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: back to her last loss and then also her last fight,

833
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: watch some stuff in between. But I watched those back

834
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: to back right because she just ran over Nina Nunas.

835
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: Granted she'd had a long lay off, but still I

836
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: want to see, you know, you don't just run over

837
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: Nina Nunas. That was the first thing. And then I

838
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: wanted to go back and look at the Amanda Heboss fight,

839
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: the one that she lost. Dude, we're talking about a

840
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: completely different fighter, especially on the feed. Obviously, her grappling

841
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: has always been good, but it's always a question of

842
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: how you apply it, how do you get there? And

843
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: what I noticed in the Heboss fight, do you was

844
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: she just didn't set up her distance at all. She'd

845
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: be far away, she'd kind of run in a little

846
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: bit and get clipped and then throw a shot and

847
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: then would be off balance. Fast forward to the answer

848
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: off for Nina Nunaz fight, and what you notice there is, dude,

849
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: she is setting things up with her kicks. Her distance

850
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: engagement and understanding is and range management like revolutionized in

851
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: terms of how much better it was, and her punch

852
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: mechanics much tighter, much crisper, much cleaner, much more linear. Dude,

853
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: she made a big leap between that Hebos fight and

854
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: this one. Here's the problem, though, dude, even with all

855
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: those leaps and she dropped who was it, Amanda Cooper

856
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: who she dropped. McKenzie's got some power too, but dude,

857
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: on the feet, you just can't imagine she's gonna have

858
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: a whole lot for Marina Hadriguez, even with all the

859
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: improvements that I mentioned, which are real and when it matters,

860
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: what matters is getting the fight to the floor. And dude, statistically,

861
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, not a great picture for McKenzie. Durn her

862
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: takedown defense by the way, granted she wouldn't necessarily fight

863
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: to take don't think she would invite it, but it's

864
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: at a whopping zero percent. It's the lowest I've ever

865
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: seen measured usually if there's no number there, it's because

866
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: they can't measure. They don't have enough here. They've measured it,

867
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: they have enough of a data set, and it's zero.

868
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: And her takedown accuracy me see Habim, is around fifty percent.

869
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can see guys in the sixty or seventy percent.

870
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: What do you think the takedown accuracy percentages for McKenzie

871
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: dern If you had to guess seventy five, try ten percent,

872
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: ten percent, she fails.

873
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say it was something

874
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: ridiculous because she tends to dominate in that regard.

875
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: Luke no take down accuracy, she is ten percent. She

876
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: mostly fails, and fails badly. In the Nunaz fight, she

877
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: got a great trip takedown to the mat and then

878
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: was able to hit a knee cut pass into mount

879
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: took the back and got the arm bar and whatever.

880
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: So again, are those better two along with the striking.

881
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: She better hope because if she doesn't get it there.

882
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: I respect her improvements, they're real, but they may not

883
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: matter against Herodriguez.

884
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the right fight to answer all our

885
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: questions because Luke the Nina Nunaz fight, which was her

886
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: which was Durn's fourth straight win. I mean, she looked

887
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: like a monster where you're like, that's a future title contender,

888
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: even with the growing striking game, which is a bit

889
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: of a deficiency at times, obviously, Luke, though there's levels

890
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 2: to this. She's won most of these fights through physical dominance.

891
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: She's a very large strawweight, very tough, strong, muscular, Luke.

892
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: I think a big key to her turnaround really was

893
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: her commitment to the weight room and fitness. I mean,

894
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: she has turned herself around, and granted, look, she came

895
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: back very quick after her pregnancy, and you know in

896
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: her loss, her lone loss sort of said was did

897
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: you come back too quick against t Bos meaning Mackenzie Durn.

898
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Was that a big thing? Well, Luke, she looks like

899
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: a different fighter in terms of her commitment since then.

900
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: But if she's got holes in her striking game, Rodriguez

901
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: is going to expose that. She's also going to be

902
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: tough to take down, as you mentioned, and stingy in

903
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: all the right areas. So we're looking at a hell

904
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: of a fight here. How tough do you think though

905
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: Driguez really is? I mentioned the stoppage when he gets

906
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: to Sparza, she bounces back from that and wins the

907
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: decision over Michelle Water. Since she's not a two fight

908
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: win streak. We've only seen Rodriguez lose to Carla Esparzan

909
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: it was a split decision, along with two draws before that, Luke,

910
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: do you feel like, whereas much as I'm saying, look,

911
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: Darren wins this, she could be on the fast track

912
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: to a title Do you think it's the same for

913
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: Rodriguez based on recent history.

914
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be. I don't have the rankings in

915
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: front of mebc SO, and I don't really pay too

916
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: close attention to him absent during this show. So here's

917
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: what it sits at currently for women's strawweight ours is

918
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: at three, yan chan Nan at four, tied for four,

919
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: not at five is Mackenzie Darren Rodriguez at six. There's

920
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: still a little bit of an uncertain scenario in terms

921
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: of how things might go. We have to have this

922
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: Rose jang Way Lee rematch that's going to happen, and

923
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: you've got at that point Yon Shannon, who I think

924
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: it's coming off of a loss and then a SPARSA

925
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: and and J check ahead, So title shot. I don't know.

926
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: I do think it's possible, and Mackenzie Durn said this.

927
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: She wants to get a win so big and so

928
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: impressive that she just leapfrogs Carla Sparza. You would have

929
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: to imagine if you're the UFC, you've given Carlas Sparza

930
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: shots before, she was a champion before, doesn't She's a

931
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: good fighter, But I think if you're thinking about popular upside,

932
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: Mackenzie Dern might be a little bit more in line

933
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: with that, especially because she's coming from jiu jitsu and

934
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: has that pedigree there. She obviously speaks Portuguese and has

935
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: an entire Brazilian family and can be popular as well

936
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: for them down there, she represents a greater commercial appeal

937
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: I think for them still though title shot pop possible unlikely,

938
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: and I think the same is even truer for Hadriguez,

939
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: even though both of these women are incredibly impressive.

940
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 2: Dern has only gone the three round distance Luke twice

941
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: in her UFC run, so she's used to physically dominating fights.

942
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 2: We've seen her as a finisher. I'm really looking to

943
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: see what happens Ifrodriguez can stuff takedowns and your percentage

944
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: thing has to be scared here, Luke, and if this

945
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: fight can go into those quote unquot championship rounds where

946
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: we really see what Dern is made of. Of course,

947
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna, you know, ask you about her accent changing, Luke,

948
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: because that's what people want me to. But I know

949
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 2: you won't really care about that, So let's instead look

950
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: at this from a betting standpoint minus one seventy Mackenzie

951
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: during your favorite according to DraftKings, Marinarodriguez at plus one

952
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 2: point fifty. Luke, I feel like I'm talking myself into

953
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 2: the underdog here, even though I've been team Dern from

954
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: the standpoint that I don't even care if she rounds

955
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: out her game, her her plan A might be enough

956
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. I can't wait to

957
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: see if it is. But man, Marina Hadriguez, when she

958
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 2: gets you up against the cage, when she can do

959
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: some of those slick things to tough out, tough out, Luke,

960
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: who do you like?

961
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: I guess i'd Here's the thing. If the durn who

962
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: fought Nunaz shows up and she gets that takedown, I

963
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: think she can beat anyone in that division. I mean,

964
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: I just don't. I'm quite certain of that I got

965
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: into my head scenario. I'll go Hadriguez. I think she'll

966
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: be able to stuff the takedowns. I think for the

967
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: most part, I could be wrong about that. I'll say this, dude,

968
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: you phrased it exactly right. Dude, this is the fight

969
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: to tell us truly about the improvement of Mackenzie Durrn

970
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Because if you can get a fighter like that to

971
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: the ground and finish them off at this stage of

972
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: both of their careers, she would have You'd have a

973
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: reason to think she could. I'm being serious, you would

974
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: have a reason to at least consider that she could

975
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: wear a belt. I'm not saying that she would deserve

976
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: the title shot or that she would beat the eventual champion,

977
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: but not in any way be crazy at that point,

978
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: and which you know, back when she was missing weight

979
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: nearly up a weight class, she was so far away

980
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: seventy pounds that did seem crazy. So all side with Hadriguez,

981
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: but I am very curious about the improvement of Mackenzie

982
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: Durna what it might mean.

983
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: I wonder if Rodriguez would get a sparza again if

984
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: she wins, you know, to try to run back her

985
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: only loss. It'd be interesting. I thought a sparsa I

986
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: should have got the title shot right now. I mean,

987
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 2: who knows could we be headed toward a trilogy at

988
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: the title level. If Rose loses that she fight as

989
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: Spars the next going to be interesting here, Luke, in

990
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: my favorite Division one one five. Luke, when we look

991
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: at this undercart, there's not a lot to talk about,

992
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: and I don't want to hold up the show, but

993
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: I am interested in seeing twenty four year old Kazakh

994
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: fighter Maria Agoppova, who came up on the scene in

995
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and looked to really be something very special,

996
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: but then had that shocking upset loss in which she

997
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: completely gassed out against Shana Dobson in August of twenty twenty,

998
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 2: got stopped in the second round. Luke, I mean it

999
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: was about as lifeless a finish after coming out hot

1000
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: as we've seen. It's stifled that that run she had

1001
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: of it initially losing on the Dana White Contender series,

1002
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: going to invicta coming on a run, coming in there,

1003
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: finishing Hannah Ceipher's looking like the real deal. Are you

1004
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: interested in this matchup here against Sabina Mazo, who enters

1005
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: as a slight favorite.

1006
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: It's beIN a Maso out out of Benagene, Colombia and

1007
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: now over with Halfel Cordero at King's Mma. She had

1008
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: started UFC a little slowly, had a bit of an

1009
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: olive oil vibe going on in terms of so the

1010
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: physical look and the and the implementation of her game.

1011
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: But she's gotten a little bit physical, more physical in

1012
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: the last few fights, a little bit meaner, a little

1013
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: bit active, and as a consequence, she's gotten better. Agappava

1014
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: to me, seems like the more frankly dynamic athlete and

1015
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: probably the probably the bigger risk taker, which sometimes will

1016
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: do good things for you, but when you're a risk taker,

1017
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: you would need that risk to kind of pay off

1018
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: relatively immediately. Hard to be a risk taker and then

1019
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: have the long view on a fight. Maso probably the

1020
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: wrong one to do that too, which is to say,

1021
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: like Agabava could come out and get a ten eight

1022
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: round and then lose the second and get stopped in

1023
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: the third. Right, I can see a scenario kind of

1024
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 1: like that. She can come out to a big lead,

1025
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: she can she can have pronounced moments, but she can't

1026
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: be the consistent applier of technical skill and strategy. So

1027
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: for those reasons, I'm gonna pick Maso.

1028
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be an interesting fight. Luke, are you

1029
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: with me? Where the fight of the night on this

1030
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 2: card could come out of the middleweight division? There where

1031
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: a fired up at Phil Haas is ready to take

1032
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: on former Golden Boy MMA standout and DC mini me

1033
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: Deran Win. I feel like I've seen Phil Hawes go

1034
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: to the same barber as Derek Brunson, Cisco, Kevin Randleman,

1035
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: and kickboxer Michael McDonald and come out with that blonde

1036
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: lock and he looks like it's firing him the hell up, Luke,

1037
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: you're looking like you don't care about this matchup.

1038
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: No I do. But Deron Win is no longer in

1039
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: this fight. Doron Winn had to be replaced late and

1040
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: so now it is Chris Curtis. The story is little

1041
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: bit more interesting. Chris curtis only one the.

1042
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Info here, folks, Okay, please thank you.

1043
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris curtis not only one on Contender series. If

1044
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: memory serves, he got a win via stoppage, didn't get

1045
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: a contractor retired. I had him on our radio show

1046
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: at the time, then years later came back and fought

1047
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: in PFL, retired one or two more times there, and

1048
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: fought in the regional scene one and then got the

1049
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: call for this, and here he is in the UFC.

1050
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: It's like one of the strangest careers I've ever seen.

1051
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: He's very good. Phil again, always had the physical potential

1052
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: and was just kind of behind technically. Now those things

1053
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: have caught up and they're a much more even. He's

1054
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: much more of a of a different product. Curtis coming

1055
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: in on the shortest of short notices, so I tend

1056
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: to think Hauge should get the win here. But Curtis,

1057
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 1: if you ask me, who is the better overall striker,

1058
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: Curtis to me is the better overall striker.

1059
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: All right, Wow, look I'm over for two here on

1060
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: these takes. Here after watching the takedown percentage.

1061
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: On the Big Heavyweights boxing, you just forgotten, You just

1062
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: forgot me.

1063
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: Well, our producers like guy, can we get through this

1064
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: segment already? All right, Luke, let's move on here. I

1065
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 2: want you to circle your calendar for January twenty second,

1066
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: UFC two seventy Site to be determined. But Luke, the

1067
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: promotion in question is targeting Hell yeah, a heavyweight title

1068
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: unification about pairing the predator Francis and Ganu against unbeaten

1069
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: interim champion Surril Gone Luke, this is the stuff we need.

1070
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: I hope it goes down on this night. Your reaction

1071
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 2: to hearing we are we're not too far away from this.

1072
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: I absolutely cannot wait. I think this fight has You know,

1073
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: we talk a lot pc about the state of heavyweight boxing,

1074
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: and it's not the nineties, but it's not a bad

1075
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: time either. In fact, it's a great time. It's a

1076
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: great time to be a fan of heavyweight boxing, even

1077
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: with all of the different issues that happen to take

1078
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: our enjoyment away. I don't think that the UFC can

1079
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: boast the same kind of moments, but this particular fight

1080
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: I would put up there with not the very best

1081
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: that combat sports has to offer, but this is about

1082
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: as good I think, on paper, on paper as a

1083
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: heavyweight fight can get these days. I missed the days

1084
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: of Kane Velaskias and what he represented. But if you're

1085
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: looking at what the modern kind of game can offer,

1086
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: Cyril Gon is really at the forefront of that. Here

1087
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: is a guy who does have power, he does have athleticism,

1088
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: but he uses it a lot for deception and fainting

1089
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: and trickery and camouflage, touching and not getting hit. In

1090
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: the words of Nazine Richardson, as often repeated BYBC, to

1091
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: swim without getting wet, all kinds of things like that.

1092
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: That is what Gon does. And then you have in

1093
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: Francis Anganu the hope of what could be the bell

1094
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: weather for what could be a future of prominent African MMA,

1095
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: particularly from Cameroon where he is from, but certainly the

1096
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: most dynamic power puncher we've probably ever had in the UFC,

1097
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: maybe even in MMA. And by the way, both of

1098
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: these guys have French origin, and both of these guys

1099
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: used to train together after a falling out Francis and

1100
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: Gano had with his old trainer. Now is over, extreme cousar, Dude,

1101
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: You've got the storyline on paper, You've got what it

1102
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: means for international MMA, You've got two incredible athletes. You've

1103
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: got one who does all the cerebral stuff, You've got

1104
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: another who is physically just an imposition of all impositions.

1105
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: What could there possibly be to not like about this fight?

1106
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: Such a great style matchup, as you just deluded to, Luke,

1107
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: I don't want people to forget that feeling we had

1108
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: watching in Ghano takedown Steepe last year and when earlier

1109
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: this year and when the belt Luke, it was that

1110
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: feeling like, oh my god, he's actually scarier than we

1111
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: ever thought he could be. Like he's he's actually like

1112
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 2: like someone learned how to put right Luke, Like, holy crap,

1113
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: the the opposite of deficiency on the ground, like the

1114
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: opposite of white belt shit. His ability to stuff takedowns

1115
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 2: and then suddenly use his side strength and athleticism on

1116
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: the ground to his advantage was like, Oh God, this

1117
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 2: is an entirely new ball game now and just you know,

1118
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 2: who knows the winner of this fight could be facing

1119
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: John Jones next year next for all we know. Despite

1120
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: all the stuff going on outside of the cage, Luke

1121
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: cannot wait for this fight. If anyone can disarm this

1122
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: guy Francis and Gano, it could be serih gone. So

1123
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna see can the chin hold up? Can he

1124
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: dance for twenty five minutes? Can you do damage?

1125
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: One thing to think about BC. We talked about Wilder

1126
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: having historic power and it carries, but with MMA we

1127
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: all know, I mean, these guys basically have bicycle gloves

1128
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: on right. I mean there's almost nothing covering their knuckles. Dude,

1129
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: Even a moderate like in terms of the intensity of

1130
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: the punch thrown, even a moderate version of that landing

1131
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: is enough to shut the lights out. Like Wilder. Can

1132
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: you imagine what he would do if he was like

1133
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: even moderately well trained in MMA, he would He'd be

1134
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: hurting people in extraordinary ways. France is about as close

1135
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: as we can get to that.

1136
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine Wilder're doing us spinning wheel kicks, Luke, that'd

1137
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: be something to behold right there, all right, luketa number

1138
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: four Beltur had a big day in the news breaking

1139
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: cycle late Wednesday after Morning Combat when CEO Scott Koker

1140
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: showed up on good friend of the program Ariel Helwani's

1141
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: MMA Hour. Luke, I'm gonna go item by item here

1142
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: and get your take on the news. The big one

1143
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 2: was interesting. We'd rumored it, we'd speculated it in the past.

1144
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: What would happen if Patricio Pitbull Freda gave up his

1145
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: lightweight title under the Beltore banner, under the auspices of

1146
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,959
Speaker 2: his older brother Patricky getting a title shot, Luke, That's

1147
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: exactly what we're gonna happen. The fight, which was already

1148
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: ordered a rematch Patricky Pitbull versus Peter Coely of SBG Fame,

1149
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: will now have the vacant one hundred and fifty five

1150
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: pound title on it. Luke, your thoughts on this decision

1151
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: by belt or very very interesting?

1152
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: I Well, it's is it? Well, it's their decision to

1153
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: make the fight, but it was obviously Patrise's decision to

1154
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: drop the belt. I think it makes sense after a

1155
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: loss like that, after all that build up, because remember

1156
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: we talked about it extensively VC. It wasn't that Patricio

1157
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: was good enough to kind of eke his way there

1158
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: on veteran savvy. He bulldozed his way to the finals too.

1159
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: It just didn't matter against a phenom in the in

1160
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: the in the likes of AJ McKee. But you know,

1161
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: this has to sit poorly with him, and I think

1162
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: it does. In fact, he has indicated that really what

1163
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: he wants is all roads lead back to McKee. He

1164
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: has to find a way to get some measure of

1165
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: redemption there. We'll see what happens. So everything about one

1166
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: fifty five became a distraction, and he even told us

1167
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: when we talked to him at the Beltore media day,

1168
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: he was looking to see if his brother could be

1169
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: get the championship at one fifty five, and that way

1170
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: both brothers could have the one forty five and one

1171
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: fifty five at the same time. So that part, to me,

1172
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm not even a little bit surprised that he dropped it.

1173
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: Not that I saw it coming, per se, but now

1174
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: that he's done it, it makes a lot of sense. And

1175
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: I guess Beltore doesn't have a better option in one

1176
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: fifty five. It's just hard to see either of these

1177
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: guys holding it long term. They're both very good. I

1178
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: don't mean to suggest that they're not, but it's they

1179
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: don't to this. To this point, they've not shown the

1180
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: kind of overall dominance of a weight class or the

1181
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: or a game to make us think that they are

1182
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: not even invincible exactly BC, but that they are the

1183
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: types to hold off a steady stream of challengers over time.

1184
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: You have to be extremely well rounded and detail oriented,

1185
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: and both guys are good, but they're not quite that.

1186
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: Are you saying without saying that the winner of this

1187
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: will hold the belt until aj McKee wants it? Is

1188
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: that what the hell you're saying, Luke.

1189
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: I hadn't eve thought about AJ going to one fifty five,

1190
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, if you're asking me what I favor AJ

1191
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: to beat either of them, yeah, I probably would or

1192
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: someone else at one fifty five. It just goes to

1193
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: show bell Tour's one forty five is strong. They're one

1194
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: thirty five is strong. They're one seventy is pretty strong.

1195
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: They're one fifty five is a work in progress. Most

1196
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: of the best one to fifty five ers are still

1197
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: over at UFC, so they got to figure that part

1198
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: out well.

1199
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: Pipoll and Quey, of course, fought in May queally winning

1200
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: by second round TKO doctor stoppage due to a cut

1201
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: that Patricky Pippoll vehemently argued against in fought. So Luke,

1202
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: not only will this rematch now have the title, but

1203
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: of course Pipple's got to do it and Kueley's backyard

1204
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: is Belatore. Two seventy, airing on Showtime November fifth, will

1205
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: eminate from Dublin, Ireland with that very good Bandamweight comin

1206
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: event of Patchie Mix and James Gallaher. So looking forward

1207
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: to this development, Luke. The second bit of news there,

1208
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 2: Chris Cyborg back to defend her Bellatoor Featherweight Championship at

1209
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: the card following that It's gonna go down November twelfth,

1210
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 2: Belatore two seventy one against Shaneade Cavanaugh also Luke of

1211
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: SBG and John Cavanaugh Fame. Luke, I had some bloke

1212
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: in my DMS on ig going, if you guys at

1213
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: MK aren't woke to the danger that Shinead O'Connor is

1214
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: going to bring to the cage here against Cyborg, then

1215
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: wake the hell up.

1216
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: Luke.

1217
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: He was, I mean he almost went as far as

1218
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: saying nothing compares to her. Luke, this girl Shanade, Okay, wow,

1219
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: can we trigger the can we trigger the nineties thing?

1220
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: I don't need to rip up a picture of the

1221
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: Pope on Saturday Night Live for you to get that joke? Luke,

1222
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: is this a real challenge?

1223
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: These are where where is the nineties counter? I mean, yeah,

1224
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: these are men's just hitting nineties reference? After not do

1225
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: the kids know about Shnead O'Connor tearing up a picture

1226
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: of the Pope on now?

1227
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: They don't need to know about that.

1228
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1229
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: As you told our producer min Each, it's not your fault.

1230
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 2: You were not born yet. For these things we're talking about.

1231
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we listen. He's uh, he was still wet behind

1232
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: the years BC listen. I don't want to completely discount

1233
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: the chance of Shanade Kavanaugh to win, but the guy

1234
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: writing us is overstating it. You know, she has losses

1235
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: his latest twenty nineteen to Leslie Smith. No, I Cyborg

1236
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't not lose that one, as she could because she

1237
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: does have some ability. It's not like a fore gone conclusion.

1238
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: But the idea that this is like Cyborg's most competitive

1239
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: fight since the Nunas one is probably overstated.

1240
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: Andnich letting us know he was born in nineteen ninety three, Luke,

1241
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: I believe that's when my armpit hair started growing in

1242
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: good stuff, right there, Belatoor two seventy one, coming to

1243
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 2: you from the Seminole Hollered Rock in Hollywood, Florida, November twelfth,

1244
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: only on Showtime. All right, Luke, one more bit of

1245
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 2: Bellator news. Scott Coker announcing, Wow, we're here, We're with

1246
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: the times, Luke. All Bellator main events moving forward, non

1247
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: title or title will be five rounds. I mean, I

1248
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: could joke about it, but about time, Luke, I'm happy

1249
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: to hear that.

1250
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand what took so long. You know,

1251
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: the promotion had clearly grown into a place where that

1252
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: was frankly necessary a while ago. But it doesn't do

1253
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: much good for Joel Romero, who is still probably sitting

1254
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: in some arena being like, where the fuck is my

1255
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth round? But next time he doesn't have

1256
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: to worry about that.

1257
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: So there is the right call. But it did feel

1258
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: like when you drove by a shady motel and there's

1259
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: that giant free HBO sign. I'm like, I better get

1260
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: free HBO at the very least here. I mean, come on, right,

1261
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Look, come on like or

1262
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: free show time. I'm sorry, Look, let me stay on

1263
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: brand a free show time?

1264
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah too, free show time exactly?

1265
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going, all right, Luke quick

1266
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: hitters to close here on segment five, I just want

1267
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 2: your quick take on this Mattroom boxing, confirming, after the

1268
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: fallout of Triller defaulting on that PERS bid for Taoe,

1269
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: Fema Lopez Junior and George Cambosos, that Eddie Herdon Company,

1270
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: which had come in second in the pers bid, will

1271
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: in fact put this fight on onto his own No date

1272
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: announced yet, I mean, do we care about this fight

1273
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 2: at this point, Luke? I mean, no disrespect, but do

1274
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: we care at this point?

1275
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: Uh? Only if Lopez loses. Other than that, you know,

1276
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: this should have happened a while ago. I'm glad it's happening,

1277
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: I guess, But Jesus, what a mess. Yeah?

1278
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: Did you see Bob Aram send my Coppinger at ESPN too.

1279
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: Hell when Coppinger was like, maybe you should have just

1280
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: paid Tao to begin with? Shut up you prick? Yeah,

1281
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: that was h that was something, Luke.

1282
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: No, Uh, shut the fuck up prick?

1283
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1284
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, prick?

1285
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, interesting boxing scenes story from minuk Acpovia poke

1286
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: my guy, our Armenian friend, right, Minuke? What yeah?

1287
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: Man Edmund Tarverdio.

1288
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, from our good friend Edmund. Uh No serious taoe

1289
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: fe Ma Lopez. Though in an interview he's in Las

1290
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 2: Vegas this week for the Wilder fight doing media rounds,

1291
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: and Luke, he said in regards to mental health, which

1292
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 2: of course is a topic Tyson Fury brings into the

1293
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: headlines rightfully so on a regular basis that three times

1294
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: over this past year in which he hasn't fought at

1295
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 2: all while going through this contract is with top rank

1296
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,919
Speaker 2: that he's considered suicide not once, not twice, but three times, Luke,

1297
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 2: for a twenty four year old that you know, on

1298
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: the surface seems to have it all new wife, new house,

1299
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: all four or three depending on your stance, lightweight titles.

1300
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: You know, even from me, a mental health advocate in

1301
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: many ways, someone who's who's you know, openly fighting the

1302
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 2: good fight. This was tough to read, Luke. I mean,

1303
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: there's this is a battle we're all facing.

1304
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it. I'm like, dude,

1305
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: if you really feel that way, you actually should not

1306
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: be fighting. So maybe cambosis has a better shot than

1307
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: we think. Or maybe I'm not here to question of sincerity.

1308
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he described it a little bit more vividly than

1309
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: it was. Maybe he was on some prescription medication for something,

1310
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: and obviously those can sometimes alter your medical state, depending

1311
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: on in your mental state, excuse me, depending on what

1312
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: you're taking. I don't I'll say this, there's a lot

1313
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: of questions that are going unanswered, and to your point,

1314
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: like no one's paying attention to it, but we would

1315
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: need to talk to him more about it.

1316
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's a veteran of this show. We had

1317
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: a very good interview with him in studio in Jersey

1318
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: City just a couple of weeks back. All right, Luke,

1319
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: let's keep it rolling here. You're October sixteenth, UFC Fight

1320
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 2: Night main event, a little bit more than a week

1321
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 2: from now in Vegas, no longer with Holly Holm. We

1322
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: already saw Misha Tate fall out of her scheduled fight there, Luke,

1323
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: Holly Holm's supposed to be fighting Norma Dumont in the

1324
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 2: main event. A knee injury will now pull her out.

1325
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 2: But how about this, fresh off of badly missing weight

1326
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: and almost passing out on the scales ahead of her

1327
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: fight against Macy Chaise on last Saturday, Aspin lad is

1328
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: going to be plugged in on short notice here to

1329
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: make this UFC Vegas forty main event happen. Luke, is

1330
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 2: this a is this smart? Is this a good idea?

1331
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is medically advisable? And I

1332
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: honestly still wonder, like, dude, she can't make one thirty five, right,

1333
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems borderline impossible. You're like, oh, well,

1334
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: she can make one forty five? Can she? You know

1335
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, let's sort of see that play

1336
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: out before we just declare that that's an obvious thing

1337
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: that she can do. I'm imagining that she wouldn't have

1338
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: taken it if she had some question about her ability

1339
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: to to make the weight. So assuming that it's medically okay,

1340
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: which again like I don't know if that is, I

1341
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: certainly wonder about it. I don't mind the call beyond

1342
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: that she home fell out, Ladd needs Lad is not

1343
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: going to get another fight at one thirty five. It's

1344
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: the gasoline rule, right, you missed it this many times.

1345
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: You have to have your next fight up a weight class.

1346
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: So if that's what it's going to be, she can

1347
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: do on a solid after kind of you know, fucking

1348
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: things up the last time. I sort of get it

1349
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: from that perspective. But A is she going to be

1350
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: in a good at one forty five? B as we

1351
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: mentioned before, is it medically advisable? Yeah, I don't know, dude,

1352
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: This is a It makes sense on some levels and

1353
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: some other ones. I'm like, h there's some more questions

1354
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: to be asked here, luc.

1355
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 2: After this, you know, unfortunate string of injuries, do you

1356
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: do you side with my conspiracy? Take that the UFC

1357
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: or maybe it's not a conspiracy. Maybe it's just a

1358
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: take that the UFC will wake up and go, you know,

1359
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: maybe we should have been putting Holly Holm and Mi

1360
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 2: shouldate against one another rather than throwing out these interim

1361
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 2: fights that aren't necessary. A rematch between these two is

1362
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 2: very sellable. It could be a let's say UFC on

1363
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: ABC main Event. I had a good chat with Brandon

1364
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: Wise the CBA Sports about that. I feel like we're

1365
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 2: gonna see this thing resurface in a key spot in

1366
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: the next six months.

1367
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: I think that's a little premature, don't you Well, now,

1368
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: hold on, let's back up a step. Let's back up

1369
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: a step. Did I not say on this show that

1370
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: I thought Tate and Holmes should fight after Tate's last win? Oh?

1371
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: Why so soon? This is why? Do these are not

1372
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: spring chickens?

1373
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,439
Speaker 2: Okay, but we don't need them against Like no, you know, sorry,

1374
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: Norma do my I don't need this fight, Luke, Okay,

1375
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: I need that, knows.

1376
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: What I'm saying. Like, do we could have just we

1377
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: could have gone, we could have gone right to that.

1378
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they wanted to drag it out because

1379
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: they had other like they have to fill so much

1380
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: inventory they can't go right to it. Maybe that's it.

1381
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: Maybe they had planned for the winner of this to

1382
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: fight later in twenty twenty two, and so it doesn't

1383
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: match the calendar. I can imagine that. But in terms

1384
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: of like the point you're raising, what was the point

1385
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: of the fight when you could have just gotten the

1386
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: tap rematch? I don't know what the point was. People

1387
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: swore there was one. I'm not secluded that there is, all.

1388
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, Luke. Former UFC Banamy champion TJ Dillashaw showed

1389
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: up on The MMA Hour with Arieljwani this week and said, quote,

1390
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: I don't even know if al Jabine Sterling is ever

1391
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: going to come back and fight, To be honest, from

1392
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: what he had done, it's kind of crazy. If I

1393
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: was him, I would have waited to get that surgery done.

1394
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: He went on to say, I think he's just holding

1395
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 2: on to this belt as long as he can. Luke,

1396
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 2: you got TJ saying the champ may never forget being

1397
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 2: the champ again, may never fight again. You think there's

1398
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: any reality to this speculation.

1399
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: We hear a lot fighters say things like this about

1400
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: their opponents, like, oh, I don't know if they're coming back,

1401
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 1: this might be the end. And usually it's so absurd,

1402
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: you're like, dude, of course the coming back. They just

1403
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 1: can't right now, this one might be a little bit different.

1404
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm saying. I believe currently that al Jamaine

1405
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: Sterling will come back. I believe currently al Jamaine Sterling

1406
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: has every intention of coming back. And I think he's

1407
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: getting a lot of he's getting beaten up in the

1408
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: media a little bit, not by the media personally, but

1409
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: by the fighters sort of re stating everything that his

1410
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: adversaries are saying over and over and over again. It's

1411
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: creating a bit of a narrative that said, dude, nerve

1412
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: and neck issues don't go away easily. So while I

1413
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: expect Sterling to return, and perhaps on the calendar under

1414
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: which he states one, the initial calendar doesn't really we're

1415
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: We're not there in that kind of a way, like

1416
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: the initial calendar was far too rosy of a picture,

1417
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 1: and trying to expedite these things and rush them do

1418
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 1: they just cannot They cannot go that way. Nerve issues

1419
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: are slow to heal, neck issues sometimes never do. So

1420
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: while I do think that he will eventually find his

1421
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 1: way back there. This one to me that you asked

1422
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: about the claims from TJ. Dillashaw, This to me does

1423
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,919
Speaker 1: not ring as hollow as it typically does when fighters

1424
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: dismiss their adversaries. There's a little bit a kernel of truth,

1425
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: as you said earlier, to this one.

1426
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, as Motley crue one saying, Luke, don't go away, mad,

1427
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: just go away. We'll see what happens with al Jamaine

1428
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 2: Sterling's future. I have no idea what that means.

1429
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,480
Speaker 1: All right, ah too literally means nothing, but okay.

1430
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely nothing. Hey Jake, Paul Luke has an idea

1431
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: to try to entice Tommy Fury, the half brother, of course,

1432
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 2: of heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, into his next fight.

1433
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: Luke.

1434
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 2: He put out a video Jake on social media that said, Hey,

1435
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: Timmy Fury, here's my deal for you. If you beat

1436
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 2: me in a boxing match, I will pay you an

1437
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 2: additional five hundred thousand dollars in top of your purse.

1438
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 2: But if I be you, you will need to change

1439
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: your last name to Tommy Fumbles legally for one full year. Luke.

1440
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 2: Jake even tweeted out a picture of a contract which

1441
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: actually said Fury would need to change his name to

1442
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: Tommy Fumbles, and as we prepared this story overnight for

1443
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: your reaction, I believe Jake put out a video celebrating,

1444
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 2: saying that Fury accepted it. Here's this video. There's no sound,

1445
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 2: but there's there's young Jake with the goggles on, looking

1446
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 2: like the guys from Weird Science when they put the

1447
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: women's underwear on their head. Luke, and well it's an

1448
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 2: eighties that's a deep cut there, Luke. Your thoughts on

1449
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: this being the next fight on the stipulation on this

1450
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 2: master troll, Jake, Paul, I mean, it looks like it's happening.

1451
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: No, I don't give a shit. I'm old and I'm

1452
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 1: not cool, and I'm not with it, and I don't

1453
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: get why he is just fanning his crotch to the world.

1454
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really understand anything that anyone twenty

1455
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: years old does anymore. Yes, it seems like we all

1456
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: kind of knew that Tommy thing was coming. We thought

1457
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: maybe there was gonna be a woody rematch, but no

1458
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: one really cares for it. I gotta tell you BC,

1459
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: you know I'll go and cover that because who doesn't

1460
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: like cashing checks? You know last thing to do.

1461
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but to pay for themselves. On my kid's mouth,

1462
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: that's right.

1463
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: Childcare of the city is expensive. Daddy has bills. But

1464
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: at the same time, like, ask me how I feel

1465
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: about it. I don't. I don't feel about it.

1466
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: It does feel like the next logical fight fight a

1467
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: real boxer. You had a guy with some vulnerabilities, it

1468
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 2: would be interesting, Luke. Will see if it goes down,

1469
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 2: and we'll see if it goes down in Showtime pay

1470
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 2: per view. Who knows, Luke. Finally, speaking of Showtime, Gervonte

1471
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: Tank Davis Luke, fresh off that that shootout with Mario

1472
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: Barrus and his last pay per view outing Excuse Me,

1473
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,799
Speaker 2: in which Tank moved up to one hundred and forty pounds,

1474
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 2: he tweeted out that he'll be back in a Showtime

1475
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: pay per view Sunday night, I believe, December sixth in

1476
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: Los Angeles the Staples Center, and that his foe will

1477
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 2: be none other than Rolli Romero.

1478
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: Luke.

1479
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,759
Speaker 2: You know I love me some Roly Romero because nobody

1480
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 2: believes in theirselves, their power, their aura more than the

1481
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,520
Speaker 2: Great Roly Romero. Luke. This one kind of has fireworks

1482
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 2: written all over it. Am I crazy a little?

1483
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: You're not as crazy as Roly Romero, who who I

1484
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: never thought beat Jackson Marinez, who is dude you know

1485
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 1: most of the time. Like, if you're looking for an interesting,

1486
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: like weird person to follow in combat sports, you'll crreby

1487
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, BC, You'll have more success finding an

1488
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: interesting weirdo to cover in MMA than you will in boxing.

1489
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: Trur or falls in terms of fighter.

1490
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: True, you got some like Alexander Usikson, like an under

1491
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: the radar weird. Oh there's a force, you know, yeah, yeah.

1492
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's there's definitely some weird ones that are

1493
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: fun on the boxing side, but you get a lot

1494
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: on the m my side. Roly Romero, if you're not

1495
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: following him on social media, is h And I say

1496
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: this as a compliment certified batshit. I mean in the

1497
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: weirdest way, in the best way possible, Like he is

1498
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: very much his own man uh and is an exciting fighter.

1499
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: He does tend to bring it. He does tend to

1500
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: swing for the fences for the bleachers. As Joe Rogan

1501
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: might say, Dude, Tank Davis is going to do terrible

1502
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: things to him. I am actually surprised. I mean, I

1503
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: get why Romero took the fight. It's a pay per

1504
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: view made event. You beat Tank does take risks. But dude, dude, Tank,

1505
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: Tank is going to decapitate this guy and it's gonna.

1506
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: Be should But we don't forget Tank small and don't

1507
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:54,520
Speaker 2: forget that Roly swings for the damn fences every single time. So, uh,

1508
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:55,879
Speaker 2: this would be interesting because.

1509
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: Shut your shut as Connor might say, shoot you melt,

1510
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 1: you know full well Tank is stretching this guy. Stop

1511
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 1: lying to the audience like you think Roly's gonna win.

1512
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 1: You don't think Roly's gonna win.

1513
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: I think really gonna make it fun, gonna make the

1514
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: promotion fun, gonna make the fight fun. But but yes,

1515
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: my early take, Luke, I think we know, uh Luke

1516
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 2: speaking of washing your man parts.

1517
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: Yes, BC, I agree. I often think about washing my

1518
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: man parts. But well, did you know, BC, what's spookier

1519
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: than seeing a black cat on Halloween? It's shaving your

1520
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: balls with anything other than manscaped. When it comes to

1521
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: below the waist grooming, Dude, I can't believe they're right

1522
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: this stuff. There's no need to carve your pumpkins. This

1523
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: Halloween because man Scaped is here to upgrade your groomy experience.

1524
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell with the Performance Package four point zero, what

1525
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: has my life become?

1526
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm not only a Manscaped user, Luke, I'm also the client.

1527
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 2: I guess we love Manscaped here on Morning Combat in

1528
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 2: all seriousness, and that's because the products work well, Luke.

1529
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 2: I've used other product before. I've cut myself before. Not

1530
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: fooling around. Okay, you got to keep your satchel page

1531
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: all in one working order, Luke, not fun, straight up

1532
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 2: slash your flick down there below the belt. Not talking

1533
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 2: about Brendan shop, Luke. You know what I'm saying here. Luckily,

1534
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 2: Manscape's got this badass technology, bro.

1535
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: That's right. So included in the Performance Package four point zero.

1536
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: I guess BC shaves his balls by stabbing them. I don't.

1537
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: But in any case, well, prior to using manscaped anyway

1538
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: is the lawnmower four point Oh. It'll help you tackle

1539
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: the werewolf in your pants. That's howling. I'm just reading

1540
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: this for what it is. It features a cutting edge

1541
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 1: ceramic blade to reduce grooming accidents thanks to their advanced

1542
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: skin safe technology. Brian Campbell the lawnmower four point zero

1543
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: easily the greatest ball trimmer on the planet. It's also waterproof,

1544
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 1: so it's great in the shower.

1545
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 2: Given your your your teen wolf's father exterior right now, Luke,

1546
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: I guarantee you have a wolf down there. Look, I

1547
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 2: guarantee you're dirty bastard, by the way, Luke. Inside of

1548
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 2: this performance package four point zoll, you'll find what they

1549
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 2: call the holy Grail of men's grooming items. It's called

1550
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: the weed Whacker, ear and nose trimmer. Luke, we're forty

1551
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: something in wash. But you don't want to be that guy.

1552
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 2: As you can say, I got a tight haircut. I'm

1553
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 2: trying to hang on hold on to sixteen as long

1554
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 2: as you can. As Mellencamp used to say, you can't

1555
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: have ear hair, you can't have nose hair hanging out

1556
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 2: unless you really are an old bastard at heart. So

1557
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 2: you get that weedwacker, think pain free, pain free. It

1558
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: does an amazing job because of the proprietary skin safe technology.

1559
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: No nicks, no cuts, no snags, no togs unless that's

1560
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 2: what you're into.

1561
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: You know what else is commonly neglected? Making sure your

1562
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: jewels smell great. In fact, when my jewels don't smell

1563
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: great and Brian's not looking, I rub my jewels all

1564
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: over his phone case.

1565
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: This you mean this case space case?

1566
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. If you were wondering why it's

1567
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: smelled like corn chips and feet, Yeah, yeah, it's because

1568
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: I dragged my jewels across from the DC. If I

1569
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: had just used the crop preserver ball Deuterate and crop

1570
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: reviver ball Toner for Manscaped, my pumpkins would have stayed fresh.

1571
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1572
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, the only thing worse in life, Luke is

1573
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: trying to sell a predatory loan. So why don't I

1574
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: tell you this? So many awesome products come from Manscape.

1575
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: Be sure to check out their new refined body wash. Hey, fellas,

1576
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 2: the ladies love their signature scent and it will scare

1577
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 2: away those vampires that are always trying to reach in

1578
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 2: and around. And if your nails are starting to look

1579
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 2: like claws, check out the Shears two point zero nail

1580
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Speaker 2: kit only from Manscape.

1581
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: All right, So go from a bite sized candy bar

1582
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: to a king sized candy bar and joined the two

1583
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: million men worldwide by going to Manscape for twenty percent off.

1584
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Speaker 1: That's one edit of every five dollars for free, plus

1585
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,919
Speaker 1: free shipping with the code combat. Yeah, same cut code

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Speaker 1: percent off plus free shipping with a code combat. At

1588
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Speaker 1: manscaped dot com, you can say trick or treat to

1589
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 1: your beautiful new halloweeny with manscaped.

1590
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 2: Wow Halloween Wow. All right, you remember that code combat

1591
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: with a K. All right, Luke, Most of what we

1592
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 2: said there was right. Some of it, though, it was

1593
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: dead wrong. Luckily we have a segment for that every week.

1594
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is where you get

1595
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: one back on us. You take us to task, you

1596
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: put us on trial. It's called dead wrong.

1597
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: Oh I have a wait, wait before we go to one,

1598
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 1: I have breaking news. So remember how I told you

1599
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: Phil Hawes was supposed to fight uh Don Winn deron

1600
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: Win gets injury. He's supposed to fight Chris Curtis. Yeah,

1601
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: Hawes versus Curtis is off. Phil Hawes did not want

1602
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: to fight an opponent on twenty four hours notice, so

1603
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: he declined to take the fight. There you go.

1604
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 2: I bet your normal Dumont wouldn't have done that, Luke. Okay,

1605
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: probably not all right, dead wrong starts like this, Mike

1606
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 2: slides in, Hello, m K. I don't know his last name, Luke,

1607
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: Mike Khunt, Mike Hunt the love. I love the show.

1608
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: But lately Luke has been using his creative license with

1609
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 2: the English language. Oh I like this. He uses the

1610
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: word comfort ability often, which is not a word. If

1611
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 2: you don't believe me, try looking it up in the oed.

1612
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: Luke also mispronounces indefatigable. He pronounces it in defeatigible, but

1613
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: that is not how it's Here is a reference for

1614
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 2: correct pronunciation. Don't hate me, hate your high school English teacher.

1615
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: I love the show. Keep up the good work. I

1616
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 2: assume there's a link here, Luke, I don't have it

1617
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 2: for you to get your shit together?

1618
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:52,799
Speaker 1: You Yeah, I got so. He can lick my balls,

1619
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: he can lick my HALLOWEENI.

1620
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, let's keep that going. Uh. This is Tyler

1621
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: coming in here during BC's many pakia career. Look back

1622
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 2: at Luke. Is there people yelling in your house? No?

1623
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: No, here's how it's pronounced. Hold on ready, indefatigable. It

1624
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: might be right on that one, but it's still I

1625
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: use the word correctly. The other one I made up

1626
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: that's true.

1627
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: Oh that was your computer talking? Yes, well, yes, I

1628
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: thought it was your wife coming in Luke Wow, okay, so,

1629
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: Luke Tyler says during BC's Pakiao retirement breakdown at the

1630
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 2: four minute mark, he said, Ken Burns made a PBC

1631
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: documentary Muhammad Ali? Did I really? That would be PBS

1632
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 2: bubba little sign of the CTE BAPA dicey BP.

1633
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: Can we stop? Can we stop? Can we stop with

1634
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: that ship? Please? Can we not be?

1635
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. Look I heard it both ways.

1636
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: I do that.

1637
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: Hey it was t.

1638
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: You know, you know.

1639
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't me, Okay, like shaggy Okay, it wasn't me,

1640
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 2: all right, Luke, Yeah, I'll take.

1641
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: Me while He was like like, yo, they even got

1642
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: you on camera. It wasn't me. They saw you in

1643
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: the shower. It wasn't me. You were fucking her. It

1644
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 1: wasn't me.

1645
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: It wasn't me, Bro wasn't it was our obviously it

1646
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: was r Kelly all right, Luke, King Tim coming in here?

1647
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: Or maybe King and Tim? I don't care. Friday's episode

1648
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: two ten, at the one twenty one mark, while talking

1649
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 2: about Dan Hooker and East Islam, Mahachev correct, right, Mahachev,

1650
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: Makachev Mahachev. Luke said that Adriano Martinz knocked out Islam

1651
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: with a head kicks one yes, but it was an

1652
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 2: overhand right that put Islam out. If memory serves correct.

1653
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 2: Luke has made this misstep before, similar to him referring

1654
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 2: to Marlon Moris as a former UFC champ on multiple occasions.

1655
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: It even though it's not real.

1656
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 2: It's okay, you big Peluca. We still love you, just

1657
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 2: like BC still loves the Monterey chicken tomatoes from seven

1658
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: to eleven though he has stabbed stains nowadays. Much love

1659
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: on your friend, Timmy, pooh, Timmy. I don't mess with

1660
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: the seven to eleven chicken, all right, bro.

1661
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: But it's also true. There's just some of these things

1662
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: I just can't I can't get out of my brain.

1663
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1664
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: Why can't get it out of my head? Yeah, all right, Luke.

1665
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 2: A bunch of people sent this in two Zach's a

1666
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 2: Nick in Austin. They said, not that it ultimately matters

1667
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 2: due to every word being made up, but in the

1668
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 2: opening of today's show on October fourth, Luke said, September fourth,

1669
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 2: and seeing that we've all agreed that these words are meaningful,

1670
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: and it is technically October. In this case, he would

1671
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: be dead wrong. Much love and appreciation for both of you. Look,

1672
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: these are the kind of submissions that people hate this

1673
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,919
Speaker 2: segment for right here, right some mantics.

1674
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that one is because I have not had

1675
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: caffeine and I don't sleep at night, but it is

1676
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: in fact the thing I said incorrectly.

1677
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: All right, Luke got one more dead wrong from a

1678
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: celebrity in these parts. Remember that man who tattooed our

1679
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: show's logo on his skin from the two nine? Remember

1680
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: that show vague Damien the Talk. Why somehow didn't make

1681
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: that one of our top twenty moments in show history?

1682
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 2: Like a like a bastard, I owe that mony?

1683
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 1: Okay, what about it?

1684
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, hey, donks, it's Damien the Donk here. No,

1685
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: not the Damien who runs a morning combat fan podcast,

1686
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 2: which in my opinion isn't really a drawl and has

1687
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: fairly messed up my tattoos. But the Damien with a

1688
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 2: terrible Instagram handle who was honored by having MK use

1689
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,759
Speaker 2: my cover. So, oh, this isn't Damien the Donk, Sorry,

1690
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: this is dam O Damo. Okay, the guy who we

1691
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 2: used the cover song of his Enrique Iglesias for the

1692
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: two hundredth episode Just Acts. J BC was dead wrong

1693
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 2: on episode two eleven at the one forty mark when

1694
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 2: referencing a brutal tackle in a rugby game. And have

1695
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: you seen this shit? BC said the eclipse the clip

1696
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 2: occurred down Under, when in reality it happened in a

1697
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: French League of Rugby union. To be candid, I considered

1698
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: taking a loyal code of Omerta as this dead wrong

1699
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 2: is considerably nitpicky and ultra specific. But hey, Luke consistently

1700
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: criticizes people's cable management, which is to be candid dumb

1701
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 2: at shit. Love you donks, Damien. Look I love this

1702
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: Damien too.

1703
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: This guy right, dude, People who don't do cable management

1704
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: for their living rooms these are people who also sit

1705
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: on lawn furniture in their living room. So guarantee you

1706
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: this guy is in there with an inflatable pool and

1707
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 1: a you know, one of those pull out chairs.

1708
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he drinks out of nothing but cups with koozies

1709
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: around them. I can tell, Luke, do you really be

1710
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 2: all serious and heart this guy Damo who sang that

1711
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: Englcia song that was a badass rendition, right, I can

1712
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 2: be your host, baby.

1713
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: Yes, for a guy who has lawn chairs in his

1714
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: living room, that's very good.

1715
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: All right. Look, there's only one thing left to do

1716
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 2: on this show on Friday besides say your name a

1717
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: bunch and piss off. John Bolton on Instagram. It is

1718
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 2: tip to tip, tip on tip, or maybe even just

1719
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: the tip, Luke. Every week we provide a suggestion a

1720
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies vinyl purchase. You should go after something, a

1721
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: TV show to watch, perhaps, Luke, what do you got

1722
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: this week?

1723
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: Has anyone bought any of your shit seventies recommendations?

1724
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 2: Yes? I get plenty of DM slides that are like

1725
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 2: holy crapyc just just look that up on you know,

1726
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 2: Apple Music or title or whatever.

1727
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: You say, plenty of I don't. I don't believe you.

1728
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: What does plenty mean? More than one?

1729
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 2: Yes, more than one?

1730
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: More than one? I am very skeptical that anyone does that,

1731
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: all right? But for mine, mine is not particularly original.

1732
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: It's the number one show on Netflix. Everyone at this

1733
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: point has kind of seen it. My wife and I

1734
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: took the plunge this week. Are you bitches out there

1735
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 1: watching squid Game? Squid Game is a Korean television show.

1736
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 1: What would you say the premise is? The premise is

1737
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of people who are down on their luck,

1738
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: who have debts that they cannot pay, Some because they're

1739
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: low life gamblers, some because they're high level business executives

1740
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: who made bad judgments or committed grift, end up in

1741
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: a kind of secret society of sorts, kind of where

1742
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: they have to play children's games, and if they don't

1743
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: play the children's games correctly, they all get ritually murdered

1744
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: in front of you. It kind of goes like that.

1745
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot more to the story, but that's the premise.

1746
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: A bit of a spoiler. I kind of ruin it.

1747
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot of death. You want to watch a

1748
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: lot of people get fucking bruly murdered in front of you. Boy,

1749
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: do I have the show for you? If this sounds

1750
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: like a.

1751
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 2: Great time out at the marriage, you know, hang out here.

1752
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: Listen. It's the number It's the number one show on Netflix.

1753
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: You have to either watch it dubbed or listen to Korean,

1754
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: which I don't speak, so I have to watch the subtitles.

1755
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: But more to the point, is beautifully shot. It's very interesting,

1756
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: and it also deals with a lot of themes of inequality,

1757
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: which we saw in the Parasite movie, which obviously must

1758
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: be a big thing happening in South Korea these days.

1759
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: Plusy add in Gungdam style, which also has inequality themes

1760
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,960
Speaker 1: into it, and uh yeah, it's a big part of

1761
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: Korean artistic you know, Milliu at this point. But in

1762
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,759
Speaker 1: any case, it's fucking good. If you ever watched Korean

1763
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: horror movies, though, the most brutal ones that are out there,

1764
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: they for some reason have an appetite for it in

1765
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: ways that most Americans don't. BC would have to watch

1766
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: this through his fingers. But I cannot say it's bad.

1767
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: It is very good. It is ruthless. It's not for

1768
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: little kids. Give Squid Game a try. Number one show

1769
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: on Netflix. There you go in the USBC, not internationally.

1770
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 1: In the US, Squid Game is number one, all.

1771
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 2: Right, see at the Waterbury Open this Saturday. All right, Luke, Look,

1772
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 2: this isn't another manscaped, pre written read. I like on

1773
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: tip to tip, of course, to give you seventies records recommendations,

1774
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: but I also like to come original and come real

1775
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: and not dodge the fact that we're most of us,

1776
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: although we have some female shout out to our female

1777
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 2: listeners who, by the way, who slipped through the cracks

1778
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 2: now and then and reveal themselves. I respect you, we

1779
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: need you. Thank you. Well. Look, most of us are

1780
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 2: like me. They're forty washed in mail, Luke. I have

1781
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 2: a history of taking off my shirt. It's been Oh god,

1782
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 2: how that should be illegal in most states to drop

1783
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: a reference like that, Luke, I have a long history

1784
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 2: of being uncoordinated, stubbing my toes. And also, look, we're men,

1785
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:19,120
Speaker 2: we're rough, we come from factory towns. We don't like

1786
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 2: do heavy toe care maintenance. Look, I mean, I'll trim

1787
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: my toenails when they're when they're long enough to climb

1788
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 2: a wall barefoot. But I'm not like looking to I

1789
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 2: don't know impress anyone, Luke. So over the years, my toes,

1790
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 2: the nails have become discolored. I've fought off some athletes foot.

1791
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 2: Maybe there's some fungus here in there, Luke. Maybe it's

1792
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: a horror show in fact, just to steal some references

1793
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: from the manscaped ad read and maybe my wife hatestrey

1794
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 2: for it, and my kids are afraid to see me

1795
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: with the sock song, Luke, I can't be the only

1796
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 2: one who's been there. So I finally bit down, bit

1797
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 2: the bullet, whatever you want to call it, visited a

1798
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 2: dermatologist and they recommended the over the counter topical solution

1799
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 2: called Jubilea jub l Ia. Not expensive, but all you

1800
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: really need to do is once a day, take the

1801
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: little brush, paint it on your toenail. It's colorless. You

1802
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 2: do that every day for like nine months. I'm you know,

1803
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 2: about six months in you're gonna see some major changes, Luke.

1804
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 2: It is a bit embarrassing to show up in flip

1805
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 2: flops somewhere, or show up and slip on sneakers with

1806
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 2: no socks, and then you go over someone's house where

1807
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, can you please take off your shoes?

1808
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, crap, how do I hide

1809
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 2: the fact that my big toe is like purple and green?

1810
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 3: Right?

1811
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 2: Because I stub it all the time and I don't

1812
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 2: take care of it, and then the nail falls off

1813
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 2: and then it grows back in and then there's like

1814
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 2: hands that come out of it. Look, I'm being real

1815
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: here with our male listeners. Tell me your feet are glorious.

1816
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 2: Please please, Luke Judge know.

1817
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: My feet, My feet are grosser than LeVar Ball's teeth.

1818
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, they look like ass.

1819
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 2: As I've talked about on the show. It just it's

1820
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: like tradition in the male side of my family lineage

1821
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 2: Grandpa Dad that just you know, you got gross toenails, right.

1822
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that guy anymore.

1823
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, do you see uh did you see our

1824
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 1: showtime producers text just now.

1825
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 2: They wrapping up. They say, you're getting.

1826
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: The light b You're getting the red light in the

1827
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: back of the room.

1828
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 2: You're He's like, we don't really have a Jubilio sponsorship,

1829
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 2: so can you wrap the show up anyway? There is

1830
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 2: there is hope out there, There is a solution. Yes,

1831
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 2: I'll show you what it looks like right now, Luke,

1832
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, all right, yeah, let's.

1833
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: Say her care comes Osama Ben Campbell, Yeah yeah, he is, yeah, yeah,

1834
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: he is.

1835
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: All right, Look, when are we gonna get some MK

1836
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 2: backscratchers on the on the thing? Right? Please?

1837
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we should do we should get some

1838
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: m K toenail cleaners. That sounds like what we need.

1839
01:31:54,920 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: A little bit. I'm gonna drag my pumpkins across your backscratchery,

1840
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: because I know you put it in your mouth, you

1841
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 1: sick person.

1842
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 2: Luke, you don't know where this thing. By the way,

1843
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: my cats love this thing. Luke, Okay, it's great. You

1844
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 2: can get there, you can get the back.

1845
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 1: Wyatch. You put it more in your mouth. You absolutely dude,

1846
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: you're the whitest person I know. Well, i'm'll put this

1847
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: on my cat's back now in my mouth.

1848
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 2: I would never put it in my mouth, dude. Let's

1849
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 2: let's not be ridiculous here out of Friday afternoon. All right,

1850
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 2: all right, our team has basically warned us to and

1851
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 2: the show or be done for good. Luke.

1852
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: You see real quick, you're going to the uh CBS

1853
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: Sports HQ studios tomorrow, are you not.

1854
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 2: I am doing that, Luke, for all things Wilder Fury three,

1855
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 2: so folks can catch my post fight breakdown there. Luke,

1856
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 2: you will also be doing an mk uh an MK

1857
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:45,680
Speaker 2: shit right right.

1858
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,680
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll be doing an mk instant reacts for the

1859
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: U for the Fury fight. I might go live, I

1860
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: might not, depends, We'll see it depends on the situation.

1861
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 1: But either way, We'll have immediate post fight coverage for

1862
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: that right here at YouTube dot com Slash Morning Combat.

1863
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 2: Up to come this weekend. Not only do we want

1864
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 2: you to enjoy the fights, but we want you to

1865
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 2: take the step forward first, like follow us, subscribe to

1866
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 2: what we're doing here in MK, we're very close to

1867
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 2: one hundred K. But speaking of one hundred you ever

1868
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1869
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1870
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1871
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1873
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Speaker 1: Combat with a K. You just get free money. I mean,

1880
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1881
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1882
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1883
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1884
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1885
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Speaker 1: free money, So come on, let's do it.

1888
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Speaker 2: You like Wilder and a puncher's chance, You like Fury

1889
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Speaker 2: to redo what he delivered in the rematch, Get on

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Speaker 2: It's magical.

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Speaker 2: You need some real By the way, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people chiming in, I know you don't believe me, but

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Speaker 2: it's true, saying, maybe you took the knee against Otel,

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Speaker 2: Maybe we need a rematch her, maybe we need to

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Speaker 2: you know. All right, So I'm saying, well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I got it's like five minutes to answer

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Speaker 1: a question that would take entire semester. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, frat guy, all right, Luke, that's it

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Speaker 2: for the show today.

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Speaker 1: You're the biggest frat guy. I know you are so

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Speaker 2: I just don't you know, we think, well, we're better

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Speaker 2: together Trevor with numbers. No you're not. You're bout you

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Speaker 2: a bunch of bunch of spineless pieces of shit. Okay, Luke,

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Speaker 2: all right, okay, all right. You know I'm the lone

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Speaker 2: ranger in this game, Luke, I don't need I don't

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Speaker 1: Get You're the fucking section. That's what you are.

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Speaker 2: the ones who told us to move on.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's it for this week special things. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: the fights this weekend. Check out Luke's i A after

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Speaker 2: the fight. May all your hosts be loyal. It's BC,

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Speaker 2: it's l T, it's MK. We out.

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Speaker 1: I got a let enemies. People don't really understand who

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Speaker 1: I am. I love you in the sports world.

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Speaker 2: didn't affect me.

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Speaker 1: mister Ripple double Dumblet got got got a lot

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Speaker 2: Of people trying to drain me in at a sentence