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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff, that is me

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Speaker 1: three and out podcast, That is this podcast? Uh, liven

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Speaker 1: in charge? Right after this a FC South barn burner

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Speaker 1: will not really just the Jaguars beat the Titans twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: The Titans looked awful. Uh you know so well, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna dive right into Jalen Ramsay here in a second.

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Speaker 1: Uh might even touch a little bit on Marcus Mariota.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is he just not that good? I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys and Dak and I think it's

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Speaker 1: played out perfectly for all parties. Eli Manning benched, you know,

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Speaker 1: Twitter freaked, and all his former teammates are saying he's

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Speaker 1: getting the shortgun into the stick, Like, come on, guys,

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Speaker 1: they drafted a quarterback sixth overall? Why why? Why is

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Speaker 1: anyone shocked? And is Eli Hall of Famer? I'll give

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Speaker 1: my take on it because I've actually really gone back

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Speaker 1: and forth over this just over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: where it was pretty clear that we're at the end

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Speaker 1: of the Eli run and is he worthy of of

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Speaker 1: wearing a gold jacket? As always, I'll go through every game,

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Speaker 1: you know, I spent about a minute you know, just

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Speaker 1: a couple of things that stand out to me about

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Speaker 1: the games there. There are a couple we got the

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Jets, this might be an NFL

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Speaker 1: record Week three are combined a fifty five point under Duck.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how that statistically or physically possible,

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Speaker 1: but if you combine them, they're once the Jets are

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Speaker 1: combined Underdock as I last checked, I mean that number

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Speaker 1: could be like sixty by the time you listen to this.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five points two teams. That is insane, like the

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Speaker 1: for just two NFL teams in Week three. Fifty five points. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then the Middlecoff mail bag, like always at John

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Speaker 1: Middlcoff is my Instagram handle. You slide up in those

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Speaker 1: d m s and I answer them at the end

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Speaker 1: of the podcast. But let's start with this. Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: you know, the best corner in football requested a trade

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Speaker 1: after Sunday's game, and after anything like a football game. Football,

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Speaker 1: probably of all the sports, because you spend all week

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Speaker 1: That's why any player or coach will tell you there

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Speaker 1: is nothing like the feeling just in the locker room

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Speaker 1: after win, just everything you put in, just like there

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Speaker 1: is nothing worse than after a loss. It's just devastating.

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Speaker 1: And haven't been in an NFL building, Those first couple

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Speaker 1: are the worst. There's no way around it. I will

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Speaker 1: never miss that feeling of coming into the office at

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Speaker 1: after a bad loss. That's just I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what could relate to it. You know, I do my

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Speaker 1: other podcast. We get paid quarterly deals with ad agencies

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Speaker 1: and companies, and if it goes up, if it goes down,

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Speaker 1: you guys can relate if you have a good Q

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Speaker 1: costs you, like your job or your livelihood. It's not

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Speaker 1: like that devastating, you know, but that that feeling of

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Speaker 1: It's it's hard to put into words. And and crazy

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Speaker 1: shit happens, you know. I I the hard part about

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Speaker 1: comparing football to real life is you can't really mf

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Speaker 1: someone in your in your office and really be normal

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Speaker 1: after it, right, I mean seriously scream at someone, fu

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Speaker 1: on out. It is never the same. But in football

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Speaker 1: doing that with sometimes your own teammates, sometimes your own coach.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine the coach is kind of equivalent of

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Speaker 1: he asked for a trade, and I saw the quotes

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Speaker 1: that Tom Coughlin says something to him, I got news

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Speaker 1: from this now. I don't truly know the feelings inside

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Speaker 1: Beside obviously they know he's a good player. But if

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Speaker 1: the best corner in the league. And the Kansasy Chiefs

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Speaker 1: let's say we get picked two years in a row.

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Speaker 1: Is that cool? Jalen Ramsey? So yeah, your two first

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Speaker 1: He's really freaking good because so far doc seven touchdowns

427
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: just looks awesome. Throwing, you know, it feels like completion

428
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: percentage I get. Last week they're playing the Washington Redskins.

429
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 1: But you go on the road and you throw thirty

430
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: like you just watch that play, And I've watched both

431
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: their games back on, you know, Monday after the week,

432
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: because I don't get Cowboys games live where I live,

433
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: and plus I always go with one of my local

434
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: teams on one TV and then the other TV. I

435
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: got Red Zone on. But now that calln Moore's the

436
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,120
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. The Cowboys are one of my first watches

437
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 1: Monday morning. I thoroughly enjoy them. And it's pretty clear.

438
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: Doc looks unreal. Doc looks like a thirty plus million

439
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 1: dollar uh quarterback and if he does it a couple

440
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 1: more games. Jerry and Stephen, despite everything they said we

441
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: wanted to pay him, We have no trouble paying him.

442
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: They were unsure if they wanted to get married to Doc,

443
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 1: and there's nothing. And I don't blame because I was

444
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: unsure too. But with every path that he throws and

445
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: the it you just turned on the freaking game, it's

446
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: pretty clear that he's a dude, and he's a big

447
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 1: time dude. And sometimes it just takes a little longer

448
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: to prove that. It did for Russell Wilson and he's

449
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: become a Hall of Famer. You know, Cam Newton Andrew Luck.

450
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 1: When those guys go one those teams, no matter what

451
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: unless those guys sucked, we're gonna sign to multiple contracts. Now,

452
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: both those guys were really good, and it was easy

453
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: to sign to a second contract. But when you draft

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Speaker 1: a guy in the middle rounds at quarterback, given how

455
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: much money you have to pay him, sometimes you need

456
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: to see a little more. And that's healthy. And I

457
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 1: don't blame the Cowboys one bit for just letting it

458
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: play out a little bit. And I give Dack some

459
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 1: credit like showing what you're worth and if you play well,

460
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: you're worth only you're only gonna be worth more. I

461
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: actually think this for all the bs and the fluff

462
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: that happens now with the Melvin Gordon's and Zeke holding

463
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: out and Levan Bell skipping a year, I give Dak

464
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for being mature, acting like a pro,

465
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: kicking ass and taking names, dominating, I mean, throwing his

466
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: hat into the m v P mix, getting with Kellen Moore,

467
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: someone clearly he's come proable with because he's played with him, now,

468
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: he's coached him, now he's the offensive coordinator. They're on

469
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: the same page and they are They're hell to deal

470
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: with right now. I mean that they look beside the

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00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs to me just fun to watch. They're the most

472
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: fun offense. Patriots would be right there too, but they

473
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Speaker 1: the teams they play, So I guess they played the

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Speaker 1: Steelers in the first game, but once you're playing the

475
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins and the Jets, I can't even judge you. But

476
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: to me, the Cowboys are easily a top two or

477
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Speaker 1: three offense in the league just to watch and the

478
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: way it's played out, Like I I, I think it's

479
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: played out perfectly for the Cowboys too, because you never

480
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: people don't. I can't believe you're paying. Yeah, I don't

481
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Speaker 1: like paying Matt Stafford a hundred million dollars. I don't

482
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: even love paying Matt Ryan a hundred million dollars. Aaron Rodgers,

483
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Speaker 1: you got no choice. Russell Wilson, you got no choice.

484
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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Like, when you draft a guy

485
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: that high and they're good, that's what you're gonna pay him.

486
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Speaker 1: With Dak, I completely understand all sides, and I think

487
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Speaker 1: it's working out perfectly for everyone. For Jerry and Stephen,

488
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: they got their franchise quarterback. For Jason Garret and Kellen Moore,

489
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna get Jason Garrett a contract extension. It's gonna

490
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: put Kellen Moore on the freaking map for Dak Prescott.

491
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: He's bawling, He's getting a lot of praise, He's gonna

492
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: get a lot of money again. Win win, win win. Now,

493
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: it's taken them four years to figure this out, but

494
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: not everyone is love at first sight. I'm not gonna

495
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: spend too much time on Eli because listen, Eli has

496
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: been shot for years. You know, he's thirty seven, thirty

497
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: eight years old. He's a shell of himself. He can't

498
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Speaker 1: move in a league where you need the quarterback to

499
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: be more mobile than ever because there are more elite

500
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 1: pass rushers than ever. So he's a statute. He's just

501
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: an archaic version of what you need to be in

502
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: this league. But I think and I knew it was

503
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: coming that Twitter would overreact every every different way in

504
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: social media in general. One when Eli was originally benched,

505
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: the reaction, especially from his former teammates, guys like Shaun O'Hare,

506
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: a lot of former players in in the league. Their

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00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: reaction is very predictable, very very predictable. Eli. This is

508
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: the defense stinks, The wide receivers stink. This is not

509
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: fair to Eli. You can't do eli like that. It's like, hey, guys,

510
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you realize, but every penny you

511
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: ever made as a player comes from the fans and

512
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: comes from fan interest. And the moment you get apathy

513
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: set in as a team, it's when your team starts

514
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: to lose money. And that's when, if it happens to

515
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: a lot of teams, that's where the league could be

516
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: in trouble. And ask everyone at the Niners and u

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Speaker 1: c l A. Currently they employed Chip Kelly. Chip Kelly

518
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: brings apathy immediately with him because a lot of people

519
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of money. You can't have that. And when

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00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: your quarterback, the entire fans ares have never been smarter.

521
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they're always right, but it's pretty clear. Like

522
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: what am I watching the Giants game for? For sake?

523
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: Kwan for his ten rushes a game, But what am I?

524
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: What am I doing this for? Because the most valuable

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00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: thing the NFL has right now, why it's running circles

526
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: around the leagues, the NBA and Major League Baseball is

527
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: the power it has to grab your attention three hours

528
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: every week, actually way more than that. I mean, you're

529
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: gonna watch your team every week, and you're also going

530
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: to consume a lot of other teams. You're not gonna

531
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: miss the Senate night game, You're not gonna miss the

532
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: Monday night game. I'm recording this before the Thursday night game.

533
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: If you're football fan, you're gonna watch that. They hold

534
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: your attention through interest, through fun, through You just never

535
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: really know what's gonna happen for the most part. And

536
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: when teams become really boring and you have bad quarterback play,

537
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: even guys like me to do this for a living,

538
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: change the channel. You couldn't pay me to watch Eli

539
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 1: Manning right now. The Giants owed this to their fans,

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00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: and as Don Draper once said, why is he going

541
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: to act like a good guy? That's why you get paid.

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00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: That's that's that's what the money is for. And plus

543
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: Eli is not your class of classic like twenty two

544
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: year old progressive, just into himself like he was raised

545
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: the right way. He he gets it, like he's gonna

546
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: act like a pro. He is a pro. He's a

547
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: high level guy. So were them, so was his brother.

548
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: They don't just tap out when a little adversity hits that.

549
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: This isn't just Twitter. In two thousand nineteen. Oh, it's

550
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: it's over. Just leave. This isn't the NBA. Like guys,

551
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: just handle like a man. He'll be a good teammate

552
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: and he'll back him up. And again he's paid seventeen

553
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: million dollars to do that. So I'm not feeling bad

554
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,479
Speaker 1: for Eli at all. And I saw Colin said he's

555
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: the highest paid player in NFL history. I googled it today.

556
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: His career earnings after this year, in the mean, this

557
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: is pretty nuts. Are two hundred fifty two million dollars.

558
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: He's made two hundred fifty two million dollars, which I

559
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: think a lot of it he's earned. Like I'm not,

560
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm not disputing that he's stealing it. Again, he's not

561
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. He's not stealing from from organizations and universities.

562
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: He used to earn that money. Now, the last couple

563
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: of years, we could argue, you know, this is this

564
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: is the Giants problem. They got a little too emotional.

565
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: And I saw this with the San Francisco Giants who

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00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: held on the players that they shouldn't have because they

567
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: won the World Series. And the problem when you win big,

568
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: unless you're Bill Walsh, unless you're Bill Belichick, you can't

569
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: separate the two. So usually that's when you make mistakes

570
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and contracts, or when you struggle to separate from an

571
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: individual player. But I think ultimately they did the right thing.

572
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: And here's where, Like the Giants told you what they

573
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: thought about Eli, they drafted a quarterback six overall in

574
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: April like that, I don't people will get too caught

575
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: up in words. This guy said this about this guy,

576
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: This coach said, this is about this player who cares.

577
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: Just look at who they draft, look at who they play.

578
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: Look at whenever a business CEO says something, just look

579
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: at where they're allocating their money. Stop wasting your time

580
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: worrying about what people say. Nothing nothing means less in

581
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: this And I'm someone that talks for a living, But

582
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: if you don't know how I live, you could you

583
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: could just say I'm just full of hallow words. Like

584
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: if I ran a company or random business and I

585
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 1: say one thing and I do another, I'm a fraud.

586
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 1: And a lot of teams do that. They say one

587
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: thing and they do another. Like the Giants drafted Daniel

588
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Jones six overall. He was gonna play. This isn't nineteen

589
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: eight seven. Quarterbacks don't sit for years anymore. That's not

590
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: the way it works. When you draft a guy six

591
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: overall and your quarterbacks not getting it done. He's done.

592
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: The other guy's gonna play. Whether he's Eli Manning, Joe

593
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: Namath or me who it doesn't matter. And here's the

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00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: other thing, the Eli Manning Hall of Fame debate. I've

595
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: thought about this for a while because, like most people,

596
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: I think you could easily make the argument he's not

597
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: worthy of the Hall of Fame because he has been

598
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: a very, very inconsistent quarterback. Had multiple year twenty five

599
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: pick year, a twenty seven pick year, has clearly been

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00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: atrocious the last couple of years, missed the playoffs several

601
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: times in his career. But I start thinking about because

602
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: the other night I was board flipping around the channels

603
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: at like nine o'clock at night, and a I flipped

604
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: on NBA TV and it was the Jazz against the

605
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Bulls finals. And sometimes I think to myself, what what

606
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: a sports all about? Well, the number one thing pro

607
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: sports are about our money because they're a business. And

608
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: the number two part about why the players play the

609
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: sports is the win. Like that's that's the most important thing.

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00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: And I think that's been lost in the culture of

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00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: today with social media, like it's so cool to get

612
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of stats, and it's harder in the NFL,

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00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: i'd say, than the other two sports to produce elite

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00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: stats and not be a winning player. Now it can happen,

615
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, like Jalen Ramsey can play on a bad

616
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: team and he can be an elite player. But if

617
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: you're a wide receiver, if you're a quarterback and you're

618
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: putting up really good stats for the most part, you're

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00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: probably gonna win a lot. And Eli has been a

620
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: little hit or miss with that, but his two highs

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Speaker 1: of winning two championships, and again I think the NBA

622
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: is a better parallel for this. We have been just

623
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: smothered with people telling us that James hard is a

624
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: better player than Michael Jordan's, that Chris Paul is the

625
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: point God, and neither of them can win a damn

626
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: thing if their life depends on it. Every year they

627
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: try their hardest and they can never even get close

628
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: to getting over the top. They're just they're just full

629
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: of hollow. Russell Westbrooks another good example. Just a ton

630
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: of stats, they'll be Hall of famers and most people

631
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: that are eighteen years old think they're the greatest players ever.

632
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: And when it comes nut cutting time, the Warriors or

633
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: lebron just kick their ass like it's just rinse wash repeat.

634
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, Eli Manning twice

635
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: saw Belichick and Brady with all the chips on the

636
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: line and beat them. Beat them twice, not just once.

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00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: Where you go, you know, a little flukey Trent Dilford,

638
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: Brad John beat him twice with fifty million people watching.

639
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: The best coach and the best quarterback ever, he beat them.

640
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: And to get there. In two thousand seven, he went

641
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: on the road in that frigid day when Tom Coflin's

642
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: face froze off and won a game at Landbow and

643
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: like not negative forty but as most impressive stretch ever

644
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: was two thousand eleven. And then don't forget in two

645
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: thousands the Super Bowls. Technically in two thousand and eight,

646
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: beat what I think many considered the greatest team of

647
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: all time, eighteen and o. He won. He was holding

648
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: the Lombardi at the end of that game. Eli Manning,

649
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: not Tom Brady and Belichick when they were eighteen and o.

650
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: They finished eighteen and one like that happened. And then

651
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven, and it was technically two thousand

652
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: and twelve January, he went through Aaron Rodgers who just

653
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: won the m v P, and a Packer team that

654
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure was fifteen and one beat him in

655
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: a lambo. Then in the NFC Championship game, he faced

656
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: a team which in my lifetime is probably a top

657
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: five or six defense I've ever seen. Definitely from a

658
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: physicality standpoint. In Harbu's first year with the Niners, Alden Smith,

659
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: Justin Smith, Willis Bowman, Goldson Whittner, they weren't just trying

660
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: uh Ian Williams, Ray McDonald, ah Mod Brooks. They were

661
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: just trying to hit you. They were trying to inflict pain.

662
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: They were as physical and a savage of the defense

663
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: has been played in the last twenty years. They might

664
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: not be the best, but just physicality there, you could

665
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: put them on par with anybody. And he stood in

666
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: there like a champion over and over and over again

667
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: at Candlestick and found a way to win that game

668
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Eli Man. Then he went to the Super Bowl and

669
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: be Belichick and Brady again, which I mean, there's no

670
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: other way around it. That was a huge revenge game

671
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: for them and made two of the most definitely made

672
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: one of the most historical plays in Super Bowl history.

673
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: The catch to Tyree, like that happened. So in a

674
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: day and age where we love to talk about regular

675
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: season games, which you know, let's let's call it what

676
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: it is, don't mean that much anymore. And I love

677
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: it when people like try to temper down like we're

678
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: just in a ring culture. Yeah, because that's the most

679
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: important thing. Winning playoff games and winning ranks, winning important

680
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: games like Yeah, winning early game games in early October

681
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: are cool, but that's not the point of this whole deal.

682
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: It's trying to win championships. It's why the people that

683
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: we admire most in sports and just historically in sports,

684
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: whether it's George Steinbrenner, whether it's the Lakers, whether it's Belichick,

685
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: whether it's Walsh winners, Tiger Woods winners, and Eli Manning

686
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: has two seasons that you can put up par with

687
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: anybody in terms of a stretch in the playoffs. So

688
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: to me, you can't tell the story of the NFL

689
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: without putting him in the Hall of Fame. Now I'm

690
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: not saying he's a perfect Hall of Famer because by

691
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: no means he is. But when guys like Jason Taylor

692
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: are getting in and Tim Brown are getting in just

693
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: stat stuffers, and this guy has two rings that in

694
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: those two years he threw fifteen touchdowns and two picks

695
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: and at a completion percentage, I think it was like

696
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: a little over Like that's what the two two million

697
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: dollars was basically for those eight games, those eight playoff games,

698
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: and two of them were Super Bowls. That's if you'd

699
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: ask John Marr the two fifty two million dollars, if

700
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: you had to put it in a pie chart where

701
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: the majority of it were worth, he'd be like, well,

702
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: about fifty million was just Eli carrying himself with class

703
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: and represent our organization. But probably about two million dollars

704
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: were for those eight games. Every stink in penny was

705
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: worth it, every stink in one. So I I got

706
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: no problem with Eli one day going to the Hall

707
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: of Fame, uh Because at the end of the day,

708
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: the whole point of everything, especially what I'm talking about,

709
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: is trying to win a ring, and I think that

710
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: gets lost in just the culture of today and just

711
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, participation trophies and Kobe's dealing with it with

712
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: his uh, with his little girl's basketball team. But I

713
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: tipped my hat for those eight games for Eli Manning

714
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: because theyre as good as that's ever been played. Okay,

715
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: let's go game by game. There's a couple of good

716
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: college games on Saturday. Oklahoma State at Texas, Uh, Notre

717
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: Dame at Georgia, even though I think George is gonna

718
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: kick their ass, and uh, that's about it. But it's

719
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: kind of a it's kind of a week called college

720
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: kind of line up, and there is. I'm actually pretty

721
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: excited for USC taking on Utah. So if you're listening

722
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: us on Friday that they're playing tonight, if you're listening

723
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: this over the weekend, the game already happened. But I

724
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: think Utah kicks are asked too. But let's dive into

725
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: the NFL games like I always do. I just wrote

726
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: down every game and I'll just try to spend like

727
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: less than a minute just the first thing that comes

728
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 1: to my mind. Denver at green Bay. I mean green

729
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: Bay's defense this year has been on real. Denver, you

730
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: know should have won the game. If always just blasting

731
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: Garrett Bowls like John you drafted the guy so yeah,

732
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: he holds a lot that that's on you. I just

733
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: I have a hard time the line seven and a half.

734
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if green Bay's blowing at anyone because

735
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: their offense has kind of been hit or missed. But

736
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing Joe Flacco going on

737
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: the road against the top five defense and getting to win.

738
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: I just I don't see it happening. So I like

739
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: green Bay to win this game and start three and

740
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: oh Lions at Philly line six. The the Eagles have

741
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: they weren't able to actus on Wednesday. They have so

742
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: many damn injuries. Uh, Carson Wentz can only do so much.

743
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Lions are one of those weird teams. They do have

744
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: some talent, but I mean, no one trusts the coach.

745
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: I would say this is a winnable game, but as

746
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and the Lions, I don't care how injured

747
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: the Eagles are going into the link and getting a win.

748
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: I can't see it. So while I don't like the

749
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: Eagles and the six points just because of how many

750
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: injuries they're dealing with, I think the Eagles win this

751
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: game to me easily the game of the week from

752
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: just kind of a cool interesting standpoint. Ravens chiefs uh

753
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes versus Lamar, Andy versus Harbaugh. I I just simply

754
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: can't wait for this. I I simply can't wait. We

755
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: know Mahomes a star, but I think Lamar and I

756
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: know the Chief's defense is not the eight five Bears,

757
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: But if he goes on the road to Kansas City's

758
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: home opener and you know, throws for three or four touchdowns,

759
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to just you know, I've

760
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: been hesitant to do it. Just called the guy superstar

761
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: at Anna at Indie. This is an interesting game because,

762
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't take Atlanta seriously after week one.

763
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: Even last week it took a fourth and four quick

764
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: screen to Julio to win him the game. I think

765
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: Indie is kind of shown that they're not the best

766
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: team in the league now with luck on, but they

767
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: might be the most mentally tough team. You just you

768
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: can't break them, you did, They're really tough to beat.

769
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: I love everything that Indie stands for. I love Chris Ballard.

770
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: I just like the culture that they've implemented in that organization,

771
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: the opposite of the Lucy Goosey terrible culture that Ryan

772
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: Grison had implemented. Ballard's gone the other way. Indie's given

773
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: up a point and a half, Atlanta's the wide receiver's stars.

774
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Julio Ridley s new But I just like

775
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: Indie in this game. But this is a tough game

776
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't bet this game, but it's a It's

777
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: a fun game to watch Raiders at Minnesota. Gruden's in

778
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: year two and already week three, He's a nine point underdog.

779
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: I like Minnesota to kick the crap out of the Raiders.

780
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: Good stat today by one of the local guys here

781
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: in the Bay. The Raiders on their first drive of

782
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: the game average like, you know, two points of possession,

783
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: and that was like fifth in the NFL. Over the

784
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: last two years after that, they averaged like seven in

785
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: the league. So it's pretty much Gruden's a great first

786
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: fifteen coach. But after that, the offense sputters. I I

787
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: don't see any chance on God's Green Earth the Raiders

788
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: go into Minnesota and win, let alone even stay close.

789
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota destroys them. Then we got two games,

790
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: which might be a record for Week three. The Jets

791
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: and the Miami Dolphins both in Obviously, the a f

792
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: C East are a combined fifty five point underdog. Fifty

793
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: five point underdog. I wouldn't. I don't even know what

794
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: to say the Jets in New England. I'm not gonna

795
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: watch one snap of that game Miami and Dallas. I'll

796
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: probably watch negative snaps of that game. I would say

797
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: New England. I have zero reservation that they're gonna to

798
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: take the Jets seriously, because they take every opponent seriously,

799
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: so they're gonna try. My one thing with Dallas is

800
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: are you telling me that Amari Cooper and Ezekiel Elliott

801
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: and some of the younger guys on Dallas's defense are

802
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: taking the offense seriously? Like I know Dak will, but

803
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: I can see like Zeke not having the best week

804
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: of practice, and that's not a criticism. If you put

805
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: me in Zeke's body, I wouldn't be able to take

806
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins seriously. This is a tough week for Jason

807
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Garrett to keep his guys focused against the team that's

808
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: actively tanking. That's been an embarrassment so far on tape

809
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: at least, like the Jets try. You know, the jetice

810
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: aren't any good because their quarterback made out with a

811
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: chick and his mono, and they're playing with Luke falk

812
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: Levan Bell's running hard, Jamal Adams playing hard. Like the

813
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: Jets try. They just have way too many injuries. They

814
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: just stink right now. The Dolphins to double whammy, they

815
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: don't try, and they traded all their players. So again,

816
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: these two teams, the Jets and the Dolphins on the

817
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: road are combined fifty five point underdog. That is insane.

818
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Giants at Tampa interested to watch Daniel Jones and his

819
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: first start. The one thing I said during the preseason

820
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 1: is Daniel Jones is playing like guys that are selling

821
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: insurance right now. So to try to translate his preseason

822
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: play to this game, I think it's really tough, especially

823
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: against Todd Bowles, who is one of the better defensive

824
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: coordinators in the league who brings constant pressure. It's not

825
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: like the Bucks have the two thousand one defensive roster,

826
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: but they will fly around. I think that Daniel Jones

827
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: gets humbled a little bit in this game, and I

828
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: like Tampa to kick their ass. Here's the other thing

829
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: with Tampa. You got Atlanta, which I think is a

830
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: pretty not a fraud but I just don't think they're

831
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: that good. Uh. You have the Saints that there might

832
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: be screwed, right, they lost Drew Brees for potentially six weeks,

833
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: might be more. And then you have the Cam Newton

834
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: lists uh Carolina Panthers that are also screwed. I don't

835
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: think it's insane. Now I would say it's still unlikely,

836
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: but Tampa could be a sleeper divisional champ, you know,

837
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: like eight and eight, nine at seven, because they do

838
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: have some players. If they can just keep Jamis on

839
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: the straight and narrow. The coaching staff is really good.

840
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you just keep an eye on Tampa

841
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: Bay Panthers at Arizona. You know, Kyle Allen. Uh, this

842
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: game interests me very little. I probably won't watch much

843
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: of this game. Saints that Seattle is interesting for a

844
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One, Seattle wins the game the three

845
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: and oh and you're like, god, are they don't lock

846
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: playoff team because that's how they're kind of feeling. Sean

847
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Payton has kind of refused to name a starter. Now

848
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: they're paying Teddy Bridgewater what like seven and a half

849
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: million dollars to be the backup, so it would be

850
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: a pretty alarming if Teddy Bridgewater what didn't start this game.

851
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: But this Taysom Hill character is a pretty interesting guy.

852
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: I think that both those two guys are gonna play

853
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: a lot in this game. This kind of a big

854
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: muscle flex game for Sean Payton, Like can he function

855
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: without Drew Brees He's never really had to. If he

856
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: could go on the road with some combination of Teddy

857
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: and Taysom Hill and beat Seattle at home, that would

858
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: be really really impressive. Now I like Seattle in this game.

859
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: I think just it's you're not going to Seattle with

860
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback and winning. I doubt that's how in

861
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: the peat Carroll era. Uh, but if anyone could do

862
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: it would be a guy like Sean Payton. Houston at

863
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: almost at the Clippers. Whenever I see L A. C.

864
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: I think the Clippers. I just don't think Houston is

865
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: that good. I mean, they have a couple I've changed

866
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: my opinion on them the last couple of weeks. They

867
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: obviously have a couple of elite players. Deshawn's special, DeAndre Hopkins,

868
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: a baller. J J. Watt kind of looks like a

869
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: shell of himself. Listen, I get that Bill O'Brien didn't

870
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: like Clowney in the weight room and he didn't lift

871
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: hard enough, and maybe he didn't practice hard enough. But

872
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: you know what Jadeveon Clowney did the last two years

873
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: for the Texas on Sundays, he wrecked shop. He dominated.

874
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: They're missing him right now and at the end of

875
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: the day, Laramy Tunzel was a really good player. But

876
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: you can only impact the game so much as one

877
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: individual offensive lineman because really the offensive lines played as

878
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: a unit. Like you can impact the game a lot

879
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: as a defensive lineman, while the defensive line is played

880
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: as a unit. If you're an outside pass rusher, you

881
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: you have a lot of control over what's going on.

882
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: If you're the left tackle, like you can't help that

883
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: the right guard sucks or the center is getting smoked

884
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: or right to accle can't move. But if you're just Clowney,

885
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: you could get two sacks in the game or just

886
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: dominate that they can't run to a certain place. You

887
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: you can change the game. And that's what Clowney did.

888
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Now that the Chargers again almost said the Clippers have

889
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: a ton of injuries. This is a big game. It

890
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: really is both these two teams or one on one.

891
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: Whoever wins this game is gonna be feeling pretty good,

892
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: especially I just I don't know about the Chargers. I

893
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: would have said when we were going into training camp

894
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: the Charges were locked lock playoff team. Then during when

895
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: James goes down, there left tackles nowhere to be found.

896
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry's now out. I'm not I'm not feeling good

897
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: about either one of these teams. I'm really not. I'm

898
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: pretty fascinated by this game. I just I wouldn't bet

899
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: it the Chargers, you know, just home favored by three points.

900
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: But I don't feel very good about it at all. Okay,

901
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: let's get into the the old Middlecoff mail bag and

902
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: we do that and on Instagram at John Middlecoff, you

903
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: get up in those d m s and I answer

904
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: your questions here. So let's fire away. Steelers Fan been

905
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: listening to podcast almost a year now and figured i'd

906
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: send a d M. I was wondering your thoughts are

907
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: on Mason Rudolph. I thought he was a steel in

908
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: the third round, and I like what I've seen so

909
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: far against the Seahawks and in the preseason, but it's

910
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: still a small sample size, So I guess the question

911
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: is what do I think. I would say, Well, I

912
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: didn't really watch teor preseason, so and I think we've

913
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: seen over the years. You can't put any stock into there,

914
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. I went back and watched Getting

915
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: Ready for the Niner game. The he was pretty good

916
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: in the second half. He's cool, calm, collected. He's a

917
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: big guy. He obviously I think has small hands. That's

918
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: going to be a concern as they get into colder

919
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: weather games. But this is a pretty big first test.

920
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: You go on the road in a game against the

921
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: defense that's pretty good. Their pass rush is really good.

922
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: Watching the Steelers, one thing that jumps out is a

923
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, they were an elite offensive team.

924
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: They had been. They had Antonio Brown, Uh, they had

925
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: Levan Bell. They were just elite. And now I'm watching

926
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 1: them like I like juju. But they got Johnny Holton,

927
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: they got Vance McDonald. You know, they got James Conner.

928
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: The weapons aren't quite the same, and clearly the defense

929
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: isn't that good, so it's not gonna be easy. He's

930
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: not walking into Mike Wallace. You know, Antonio Brown and

931
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: Levian Bell that's just that's not the case here. So

932
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a big I don't really have an

933
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: opinion on him. Beside, I'm with you. I like what

934
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: I saw in Seattle, uh, but I don't know what

935
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: really to make of it. He was at home, but

936
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: it was off the bench. Anytime you come in up

937
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: the pine mid midgame and look, you know, serviceable, that's impressive.

938
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: I know people were sending me tweets and d ms

939
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: that the Steelers said when they drafted him that they

940
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: had a first round grade on him, so that they

941
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: valued him now. They passed on him twice, but obviously

942
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: been a couple of years ago, was younger. I say

943
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: the one concerning part would be last year he couldn't

944
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: beat out Joshua Dobbs, which you know, coming from Oklahoma State,

945
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: maybe the transition was harder than they thought. They clearly

946
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: liked him a lot more in Joshua Dobbs this year,

947
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: having traded him to be Minshew's back up now, so

948
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: I I would say that I am optimistically excited to

949
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: watch him play. My expectations that aren't very high. I

950
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: would say they're oh and two right now. If he

951
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: goes seven and seven, the rest of the season and

952
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: they go seven and nine that that would be pretty impressive.

953
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: That would be pretty impressive. What's up, John? Huge fan

954
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: three and out and you've inspired me to get into

955
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: this podcasting business. I'll be it on an amateur level.

956
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: You're a huge role model from me. I appreciate that.

957
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever been called a role model. Uh,

958
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: thank you. How do you think the Eagles measure up

959
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 1: to the rest of the NFC and do you trust

960
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: Doug and Carson to elevate their individual talents to ultimately

961
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: weather the Jackson and all Shan storm. I would say

962
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: they measure up when healthy as good as anybody they are.

963
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: I put them right up there. You have New England

964
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, cream of the crop in the a

965
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: f C. And then to me the NFC is the

966
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: Eagle unhealthy, the Eagles, the Cowboys, sorry, Saints Sea, maybe

967
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: the Rams, and then who knows in the NFC North.

968
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: I'd say it's just to me, the Eagles the Cowboys,

969
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: the two best teams went healthy right now. The Cowboys

970
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: are a little more healthy, but they're kind of banged

971
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: up too. But the Eagles weren't shambles. I mean they're

972
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: starting two wide receivers, second tight end. That's a really

973
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: good player didn't get to play. They're one Kryptonite is

974
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, the corners. I would say

975
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: this though, like you said, can those guys elevate? That's

976
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: why how he drafts players like the running back from

977
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: Penn State J j R. Take a white side. That's

978
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: why they had still kept Nelson Akolar on the squad.

979
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 1: It's why they have zach Ertz. It's why they keep

980
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Peters and draft Andre Dillard like they

981
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: are equipped. They have a lot of bodies they can

982
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: keep throwing out. Uh. Doug's proven to be one of

983
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: the best play callers in the league. And like I said,

984
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: under under the older guys over thirty, you know, the

985
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and older guys, there's no one with the

986
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: high end of Wentz beside Mahomes. So you're looking at

987
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: like Lebron and Kevin Durant. Like that's how I put it.

988
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: You know, if I think Mahomes can kind of beat

989
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: the Lebron, but Wentz would be like Durant, So Wentz

990
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: can be that good. And I think he saw in Atlanta.

991
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: They went into a hostile environment with kind of some

992
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: crazy circumstances right before the game, and they probably should

993
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: have won the game, you know, if they just can

994
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: somehow tackle Julio in a fourth and four. I mean,

995
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: you gotta give Atlantic credit. They called the perfect play,

996
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: but that they were in position to win. That's all

997
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: you can ask for given those circumstances. Now, the injuries

998
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: are a problem, like how long are these guys are out?

999
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: And here's the thing, like Deshawn's thirty two years old,

1000
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: so he might miss time, you know, as can as

1001
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: al Sean gonna miss a week or is he gonna

1002
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: miss like a month? Are those two guys gonna miss

1003
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: a combined two games or are they gonna miss seven combined? Right?

1004
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: So I think it's that's where it gets interesting. They

1005
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: still got a good defensive coordinator, They got a really

1006
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: good defensive line that they could get to nine ten

1007
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: wins worst case scenario, no matter what. So I trust

1008
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: Doug and Carson for sure. Beside Kellen Moore, what o

1009
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: C quarterback coaches are at the top of their games

1010
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: future head coaches? Uh? I was thinking about that. Besides

1011
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, I don't know if there really are the

1012
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: quote unquote future head coaches right now in the league.

1013
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: I know Eric b Enemy with with Andy and Kansas

1014
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: City is gonna definitely get some love if somehow that

1015
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks, you know, when eight nine games.

1016
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: I think Byron Leftwich will get some love under Bruce Arians.

1017
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: You know, if Kyle Shanahan this year is able to

1018
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, he's got a bunch of minions, little

1019
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: right hand guys that would would get some pub for sure.

1020
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, I mean ship you worked for Sean McVeigh.

1021
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: Jed Fish with Sean McVeigh may get a shot. But

1022
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as clear as it was like

1023
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: three or four years ago when it was like Kyle

1024
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 1: Naggie McVeigh. There was kind of a group of them

1025
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: right before, like when Adam Gates was coming up, like

1026
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: it was clear there's not really that guy. And don't

1027
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: forget this, Kellen Moore's thirty one years old. I just

1028
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: don't think even if the Cowboys, let's say, won the

1029
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this year, even though by the time they

1030
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: were on a Super Bowl run, he'd be getting interviewed.

1031
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, he's thirty one years old,

1032
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: he comes from a coaching background. I don't think he's

1033
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: just This isn't some money grab to me, there's what

1034
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: separates people in life. I say this all the time

1035
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: about me, and I think you see this a lot

1036
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: of people that get into pro sports, whether it's through

1037
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: media or wanted. Like I never got into this for

1038
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: the money. This was my only option to Like, this

1039
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: wasn't a side hobby. This is my life. So it's

1040
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: easy when it's your life, it's easier to make big

1041
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: picture thoughts in big picture decisions, or have big picture

1042
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: thoughts to enable you to make big picture decisions. Like

1043
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore already has some money. He played in the

1044
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: league for a couple of years, So that means that

1045
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: mintal Movie has been making five six under grand He's

1046
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: now the O C and he was a quarterback coach.

1047
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: He's made some cash. I don't think he's just in

1048
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: this huge rush to be a head coach. I could

1049
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: be wrong. Like when Matt Naggy became the head coach

1050
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: to Chicago Bears, he'd been working under Andy Reid for

1051
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: eight years, you know, maybe nine. You know, Doug Peterson

1052
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: had been in the NFL and been an assistant coach

1053
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: for a while, like Adam Gates has been an offensive

1054
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: coordinator multiple spots, and they were pretty young, like Sean

1055
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: McVeigh was a little bit of an outlier. But Sean McVeigh,

1056
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: when he got done playing in Ohio, immediately went into coaching.

1057
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: So he got his job at what thirty one years old?

1058
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: He was in the league apprenticing under Gruden Shanahan and

1059
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: Gruden uh the other Gruden for a long time, you know,

1060
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean ten plus years, not that long, but long enough. Really,

1061
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has been coaching. This is his second year now.

1062
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: He's been doing it and thinking about his entire life.

1063
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: But I bet he'd tell you, like, I still want

1064
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: some more reps, and I got news for He's got

1065
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: a pretty good gig. You ever heard of Jerry Jones. Guy.

1066
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: You can pay him a lot of money. So maybe

1067
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: Kellen interviews somewhere just to get a little bump in

1068
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: a raise, and maybe they pay him two or three

1069
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. But I would be my take

1070
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: right now, as of September nineteenth, at nine sixteen at night,

1071
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if Kellen Moore is a head coach

1072
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: next year, not because he wanted options, but because I

1073
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't see it with p I

1074
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: of be in reviewable. Do you see teams having the

1075
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: backup come in and chuck Haile Mary's on third and longs.

1076
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: It happened with Seattle against the Steelers on a week call.

1077
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: But the letter of the law, the refs have to

1078
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: call it. Uh. The one thing I would say is

1079
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: that I've seen some people throw flags on p I plays.

1080
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: The point of the rule is for for egregious p

1081
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: I plays, not Tiki tax stuff like Gruden last week

1082
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: through one on a Tiki tach play and they're not

1083
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: overturning Tiki tax stuff. And it's a cop people like

1084
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: tweeted at me, it's black and white. You either did

1085
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: p I R. That's not what the rules for. They

1086
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: even said when they changed it. It was for the

1087
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: Rams Saints type play egregious errors. This football. You're allowed

1088
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: to hand fight a little bit. You're allowed to be

1089
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: there a little early. You know, I I have no problem.

1090
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: I like to give the defensive player a little room

1091
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: for error. A defensive holding is my least favorite penalty

1092
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: in all of football. Because like, what the hell is

1093
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: the defensive guys supposed to do? Now, if it's blatant

1094
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: defensive holding, I get it, but just the occasional kind

1095
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: of touch yea and grabbing your jersey, Like, what are

1096
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: they supposed to do? Do you see Jerry ponying up

1097
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: to keep Kellen as an o C until it's time

1098
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: to move on from Garrett or do you see him

1099
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: trying to scoop him up next season? So it's kind

1100
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: of a Kellen Moore the one caveat could be And

1101
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't see this happening just because I think Jerry

1102
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: loves Jason Garrett. Would Jerry Jones make Kellen Moore of

1103
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: the head coach and just let Jason Garrett walk? My

1104
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: gut would be if they you know, if they win

1105
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: the East and they win a couple of playoff games

1106
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: or just hell, they lost in the NFC Championship game,

1107
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Garrett would get an extension and Kellen Moore would just

1108
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: get a race. Now there is a chance. I just

1109
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: think Jerry's too old to do something kind of crazy,

1110
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: and he knows like there's a floor, like his teams

1111
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: are gonna be solid with Jason Now, he could take

1112
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: a swing for offense, but he's seventy seventy seven years old.

1113
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: If it went poorly, it could cost him a lot.

1114
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: It's Kellyn just not ready, and it's I always defend Jason,

1115
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: Like to me, there's stuff that kelln can learn from Jason,

1116
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: just how to run an operation, how to stay cool,

1117
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: just all that stuff. That's why I think, actually it's

1118
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: a good guy for him to apprentice under because X's

1119
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: knows why is like Kellen is gonna be on top

1120
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: of that, he's he's special, But some of the other

1121
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: stuff you can always just be around. A guy like

1122
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: Jason is a good program guy. I don't know if

1123
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: he's a great individual. X's nose guy, which is kind

1124
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: of ironic because he was an Ivy League quarterback, but

1125
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just not his strength. Ben supporting you since

1126
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: the beginning, appreciate that, uh, forty Niners are looking good

1127
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: despite Gucci Garoppolo needing to knock off the Rusk. If

1128
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: he can stay healthy and continue to build himself back

1129
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: into previous form, are the forty Niners actually a potential

1130
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: wild horse? Stark horse hard to believe, I'm asking this,

1131
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: but the Seahawks, assuming they don't land Ramsey look vulnerable

1132
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: and right now the forty Niners look better overall, just

1133
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: got me a little shook. Hometown bias, society your thoughts.

1134
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: I actually think Seattle looks solid. Uh, They're not like

1135
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: just some team that's gonna dominate anyone. But like I

1136
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: said last week, their records since two thousand, twelve and

1137
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: seventy six and thirty through six excuse me, seventy seven

1138
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 1: and thirty six, all they do is win like it's

1139
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: not gonna look pretty, and at the end of the

1140
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: year they're gonna have ten wins. I think the question

1141
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: is how many games the Rams gonna win. I think

1142
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: they'll beat the Browns this week, but sums off about

1143
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: them because Girl is not the stame now. Mcveigh's stud

1144
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: god still solid and they can pass the ball, but

1145
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: their secondary is not great. The pastor I mean Aaron

1146
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: Donald at any moment can just take over a game.

1147
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: Could all three teams come from the NFC West. I

1148
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: would say a little unlikely because the Eagles and the Cowboys,

1149
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I think the

1150
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: division is gonna come down to this. If any of

1151
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: the team, if any of those three teams slip up

1152
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: to Arizona, which all three of them should sweep. And

1153
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: then what do they do against each other? Does any

1154
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: of the three teams go four note, you know, just

1155
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: like the Rams beat Sweep, then Iron sweep Seattle or

1156
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: vice versa, right, or does one team go three and

1157
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: one and the others go too and two? That could

1158
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: be a win game and that I just don't know,

1159
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: Like I'm not I can't annoint and feel good about

1160
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: the Niners being a wild card like making the wild card.

1161
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 1: But if they win this weekend, I feel pretty confident

1162
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: they're in the wild card mix. And to me, the

1163
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: wild card mix is probably ten games. You know, nine

1164
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: ain't getting me in uh with Dallas, Philly, Seattle, l A, Niners,

1165
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, and I mean nine

1166
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: might win the division in the South, but these other teams,

1167
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: I think to get the fifth and six wild card spot,

1168
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to win at ten eleven games.

1169
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm from Seattle and a Homer's Hawk fan. Does it

1170
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: seem like once again everyone isn't talking about Seattle. Here's

1171
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: what's funny? Or just giving them credit since the Niners

1172
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: and Rams are doing good and are in the same division.

1173
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: I feel like every year Russell gets shaded now with

1174
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Lamar killing it. Yeah, I mean I think

1175
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: he's a star, man. I I think he's an absolute star.

1176
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: So I don't shade Seattle at all. To me, they

1177
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: are They're one of the standards in the league. Obviously

1178
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: the Patriots are the standard, and then there's just next tier.

1179
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: And I put right now that the next tier kind

1180
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: of has two teams, maybe three teams that are kind

1181
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: of establishing themselves. Now, this is how he Doug run

1182
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: Andy Beach in Casey and Seattle. I think mcveigh's throwing

1183
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: their hat in the ring if they make the playoffs

1184
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: again this year, you know, even the Saints, we'll see,

1185
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: like they lost Breeze, can they withstand it? Can the

1186
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: Steelers lose Ben and withstand it? It's hard, you know,

1187
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: that's it's hard to just be look at the Packers,

1188
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: they haven't made the playoffs in a couple of years.

1189
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: A couple of things have gone wrong. It's hard to

1190
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: kind of battle through the adversity. Uh So, it's it's

1191
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: just really difficult to just maintain winning. And I'd say

1192
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: the most the two most consistent teams these last five

1193
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: or six years, beside the Patriots obviously have been Seattle

1194
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. What's up, John? Do you think college

1195
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: football expanded the playoffs that the teams would be more

1196
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: inclined to play a tough schedule. One loss wouldn't be

1197
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: a c Z and killer. It seems like a fair

1198
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: amount of games are wasted playing terrible, unranked teams. Who

1199
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: wants to watch fifty five and nothing blowouts? I would

1200
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: agree to that. I think that's a huge It's kind

1201
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: of an epidemic right now, like an epidemic in the NBA.

1202
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: This guy sitting the epidemic and college football are teams

1203
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: refusing to play anyone in nonconference, especially the SEC teams.

1204
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I I think there's an easy fix that

1205
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: that you maintain the n C double A passes a rule.

1206
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: If you play twelve games and nine of them are conference,

1207
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: and you get three nonconference games or eight year conference

1208
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: whatever mandatory, you play two Power five teams non conference mandatory.

1209
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: Then the third you can play cal Poly. You know,

1210
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: some teams still might play like a Nevada or something,

1211
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: but it's mandatory you play two Power five teams. I

1212
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: think that would help solve it. So basically, the month

1213
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: of September is Alabama playing Washington? Is Iowa playing USC?

1214
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: You know? Is is Clemson playing Penn State. It's Georgia.

1215
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I give Georgia credit. They do it, Notre Dame.

1216
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: It's you know, b y U play in Utah. You

1217
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: get those type games, and I think we all want it.

1218
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: That's what we want to see, and who knows. I

1219
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: doubt it happens, though. Should the Bears orchestrat to trade

1220
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins to get Josh Rosen. Trabinsky has looked

1221
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: like hot garbage and not long term solution and is

1222
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: holding back at top ten ross top ten, I mean,

1223
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: I think it's top five roster in the league or

1224
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: are my blind is a Bears fan of the Packers?

1225
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: Plus the Broncos have elite defenses to look okay enough

1226
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: to considering he was too good to play preseason football.

1227
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: Uh well, we get to see him on Monday Night football,

1228
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: and I think this week's pretty pretty black and white.

1229
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: Trabisky has gotta play better. He's I'm not a football

1230
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: against the Washington Redskins, Like it's time to play better,

1231
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: like top ten roster that the Bears have a top

1232
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: five roster. If you put kel Gardner Minshew on that

1233
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: team right now, I think they'd win twelve games now.

1234
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: They won twelve last year. But Mitch isn't playing as

1235
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: well as he did last year. He's just got to

1236
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: step it up. And I think we'll know here pretty soon.

1237
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: Seahawks fan here, what are your expectations? Kind of just

1238
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: talked about that. Plus why does Russell Wilson get lost

1239
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: in the great quarterback discussion? It's a hell of a question, man.

1240
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 1: I think sometimes you just do it over and over

1241
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: and over again, and your your Super Bowl was five

1242
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: or six years ago. Now people just don't talk about

1243
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: you as much. Plus I got news for you. When

1244
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: you're on the West Coast, you don't drive conversation. I mean,

1245
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: that's what makes Colin unique is he's one. He's the

1246
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: biggest national brand by far, But most national brands ride

1247
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: the East Coast. They ride for those you know, the Eagles,

1248
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: the Giants, hell, they talk about the shitty Jets before

1249
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: they talk about the good Niners. Just it's just the

1250
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: way it is. You know, only in basketball, if the

1251
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: Warriors are that good, like even when the Giants were

1252
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: winning World Series. Out here in the San Francisco people,

1253
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: we're still talking to Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs. There's a

1254
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: real thing for East Coast bias, and part of it

1255
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: is just a numbers game. I think six of the

1256
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: population lives. Is it west of Chicago or something. It's

1257
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: just nature of the way guys are wired. And the

1258
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: most of the bosses, the North Northeast intellectual elites, uh,

1259
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: in the media companies or from New York or Boston

1260
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: or Philly or Washington, they just give a shit about us,

1261
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: which is fine because I don't really care that much

1262
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: about them, though I do enjoy watching and talking about them.

1263
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: But I ride for the West Coast, and uh, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you this, I'll go to the mat for Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the best players I've ever seen in

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Speaker 1: any sport. And there's no one that I would want

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Speaker 1: to if my days of being a fan or longover.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up a Niner fan, but when

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Speaker 1: I worked in the league and even now, like I

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Speaker 1: just don't care as much now the Niners are good

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Speaker 1: for my business. On my other podcast, hayrom Middlecoff, the

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Speaker 1: better they do the better my business is more people listen,

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Speaker 1: So I mean I want them to do well. But

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Speaker 1: I don't live and die with the games anymore unless

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Speaker 1: I bet it. You know, we're unless like I get

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Speaker 1: more juiced up when I see Matt naggy Win or

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Speaker 1: when I see Andy and Beach crushing it. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's who when I get joy of Hell. I Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 1: I don't even talk to you anymore, but I root

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Speaker 1: for that guy. Guys that I've known, you know, guys

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Speaker 1: that I just like Hell. I like Vic Fangio. I

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Speaker 1: want to see Vic Fangio do well. I really just

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01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: more root for people. But you know, if I'm a

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Speaker 1: Niner fan and I can put that fat that hat

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Speaker 1: back on, Russell Wilson be one of the last guys

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Speaker 1: I want to see. If Tom Brady's one hell My Home,

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Speaker 1: it might be one to Russell Wilson be top two

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Speaker 1: or three. I mean, he scares the jeebus out of me.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about doing a live podcast breakdown

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Speaker 1: a game? Joe Rogan does a similar thing with the

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Speaker 1: Fight UH Companions for UFC events, and they're huge, hugely popular.

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Speaker 1: He gets some friends together, has a few beers and

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Speaker 1: provides different take on the usual commentary. I haven't sounds

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Speaker 1: a little interesting. Uh, I don't know exactly how I

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Speaker 1: do it. Sometimes I go live at halftime, like on

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Speaker 1: on Paris Gope for Twitter. Uh but yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I would definitely be open to that. You grab some beers,

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Speaker 1: you know, just blastom people wh while the game's going on.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, just but I'll be honest, Sometimes I just

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Speaker 1: like watching the game and that's I do like watching

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Speaker 1: the game and then reacting like here. But I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to that, and that's clearly something Barstoold

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Speaker 1: does some stuff like that. Sometimes I watched stuff like

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Speaker 1: that and that kind of just wears me out. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Now again, I I despise the majority of announcing crews.

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01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: So I think when you look at the way the

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Speaker 1: business is going, stuff like that is where we're headed.

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Speaker 1: But I think it has to be done right. And

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Speaker 1: uh but yeah, I'm not. It definitely crossed my mind

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Speaker 1: at many different times. How can I sit up and

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Speaker 1: do something like that? But I'll be honest, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure Rogan's kind of like this. I would never aspire

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Speaker 1: to be an analyst like mine would be pretty low key,

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Speaker 1: just probably talking a lot of ship and just blasting

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Speaker 1: and just having a good time. So if that's what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about, then yeah, I think about it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Uh see if I can find any more d m

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Speaker 1: s here. Do you think the Colts are a legitimate contender?

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Speaker 1: Brissette looks good, the on line is one of the

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Speaker 1: best in the league, and they're d is solid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the way I would describe that

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Speaker 1: division if they keep Jalen Ramsey. The Jacks are interesting,

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew's no joke, The Titans Mariotte is just not

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Speaker 1: good enough. The Texans are an extremely flawed, yet talented team.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Colts have the most heart, desire

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Speaker 1: and just natural coaching, and they have the organizational kind

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Speaker 1: of metal. I mean, they're GM's the real deal, the

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Speaker 1: guys they've brought in or the real deal. I was

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Speaker 1: dming with someone, the guy that just DM me a

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Speaker 1: question about the Colts and we just go back and forth.

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Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes you DM me at the right time

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Speaker 1: and I'm on it. I'll just we'll just start talking.

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Speaker 1: And I was telling him, like, the thing that's most

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Speaker 1: impressive about Chris Ballard. Bill Polian is a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: He was like a home run hitter, and when he

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Speaker 1: hit a home run, it'd be like it'd be like

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Speaker 1: Joe Carter walk off World Series. You know it was.

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Speaker 1: It was incredible. I mean, from Peyton Manning and then

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Speaker 1: to all the other guys, the Reggie Waynes Harrison's the

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Speaker 1: Harrison might already been there, but Dallas Clark's too, to

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Speaker 1: Dwight free New Robert Mathis. But they were an extremely

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Speaker 1: flawed team. They had holes everywhere. Remember Peyton Manning's offensive

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01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: lines weren't that great. Their defenses, beside the two pass rushers.

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Speaker 1: If Bob Sanders was hurt, was always holes everywhere. Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard's team is kind of the opposite. His star player

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Speaker 1: is one he inherited, t Y Hilton. Most of the

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Speaker 1: guys he has are just solid. Now you could argue

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Speaker 1: Quenton Nelson's a star. But for the most part, if

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Speaker 1: if if Andrew Luck in like two thousand three, would

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Speaker 1: have been Bill Pollion's quarterback and just retired, Bill Pollion's

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Speaker 1: team would have won three games Andrew luck retired, and

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's team is prepared to win nine or ten games.

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Speaker 1: To me, I think that's a that's an that's a

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Speaker 1: positive indictment. I don't even is that an oxymoron. It's

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Speaker 1: it just shows how impressive Ballard has been on Bill

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Speaker 1: thing this team, and how good Frank Wright and his staff.

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Speaker 1: I can never say I always get Frank right like

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Speaker 1: R I G H T. But it's Frank Witch, Frank Witch,

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Speaker 1: and how good his staff and Uber Flus remember who

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Speaker 1: was hired by Josh McDaniels, has really been. But I

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Speaker 1: think the guy at the top of the pyramid Ballard

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Speaker 1: the type players. If you had to describe Chris Ballard

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Speaker 1: as a baseball player, I would describe him as Tony Gwynn.

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Speaker 1: He's up there just hitting singles and doubles. He ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna hit a home run, but he's gonna hit three

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Speaker 1: eighty and he's headed probably the Hall of Fame because

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Speaker 1: he's just always gonna be on base. And that's what

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Speaker 1: Chris Ballard's drafting strategy is. And I used to be

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Speaker 1: more my philosophical belief in drafting was a little more

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Speaker 1: like Poleon. Take swings, take swings, take swings like big swings.

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Speaker 1: I think I'd go the opposite. I would try to

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Speaker 1: become Ballard and it's hard. I mean, I I was

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Speaker 1: raised round coach. Read now. I like the flash Man,

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Speaker 1: I love the Mahomes, I love the Shawn's, I love

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Speaker 1: the Sammy Watkins and the Tyree Kills and the Shadies

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Speaker 1: like I like that. But the ballot third way, unless

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Speaker 1: you get them Homes is a little safer. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's just taking guys with really high floors, and the

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Speaker 1: majority of guys he picks, and remember the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years they've been winning, so he's been picking at

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Speaker 1: the end of the round, or at least the last year. One.

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Speaker 1: When you pick at the end of the round, if

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Speaker 1: you take some flyers and take some swings and you miss,

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Speaker 1: it's a disaster. But he's just taking guys like worst

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Speaker 1: case scenario will just be a solid starter. So all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, he has a draft and he hits

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Speaker 1: on like six of his nine picks, and they're just

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Speaker 1: starters or rotational guys. He's in pretty good shape. Then

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Speaker 1: you look at like two straight drafts, you're like, god,

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Speaker 1: he acquired fifteen NFL players, were most even a good

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Speaker 1: drafter after two drafts? Like I got four starters and

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Speaker 1: two Pro Bowlers. He's like, well, I got fifteen players.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I think he's really separated himself. Is

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Speaker 1: this the amount of guys he's able to kind of

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Speaker 1: acquire because he just doesn't miss that often. But he's

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Speaker 1: also like t Y Hilton, the flashiest guy is someone

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Speaker 1: that you know he probably would not draft. And the

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Speaker 1: one thing I'll give him credit like he took Eric

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Speaker 1: Ebron that everyone's like bus bus bust and then he

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Speaker 1: just rehabs and changed his career. Now, Ballard didn't do that,

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Speaker 1: but to me, the organization and the philosophy and the

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Speaker 1: way they think about it did. So when you have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of solid guys, you can take some flyers

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Speaker 1: on like other bus, like an Ebron type, and then

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Speaker 1: you're gonna hit on him. And he was smart a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago when he traded for Jacoby because

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Speaker 1: they have a functional quarterback on a really solid team.

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Speaker 1: That's what If you take a step back and he

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Speaker 1: went Andrew Luck had been healthy and he had been

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Speaker 1: on this Colts team, I think we'd be saying there

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Speaker 1: are three teams in the FC. If Andrew Luck was

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Speaker 1: healthy and playing right now, you go the Patriots, cream

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01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: of the crop, defending champs, they get the once lot.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs are really are really good, and they'd be

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Speaker 1: the two. But you'd be like, I think Indy. I

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Speaker 1: know Bills handled Indie over the years and Andy kicked

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Speaker 1: their ass last year, but you're like, wow, if they

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Speaker 1: just you know, you can't, you can't just discount them. Now,

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Speaker 1: they would still be the clear three, but they would

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Speaker 1: be the three. Right now, there is no three in

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Speaker 1: the FC. Maybe it's Baltimore. We'll find out it for

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Speaker 1: this weekend. But yeah, I think it's a long winded

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Speaker 1: way of saying I think the Colts could easily make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yes, because I think they can win the division.

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Speaker 1: I think the division might be one by nine and seven.

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Speaker 1: I'm not that big on the Houston Texans right now.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, Have a good weekend, and uh, enjoy

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Speaker 1: the football and tell all your friends about the three

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Speaker 1: and our podcast because I want more people to listen.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone. God speed, see you safe safe travels. Uh,

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Speaker 1: just enjoy the weekend. Audios