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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of play in Book

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Speaker 1: is underway right now. Thank you for being with us

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Speaker 1: from all across the country. The phone lines are open

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Speaker 1: eight hundred two eight to two eight eight two US call.

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Speaker 1: Let us know what to think about. Well, what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the world right now? We were going to

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Speaker 1: get to some Ukraine, China, Russia, see where I guess Russia, China, Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: I think we probably doing that order situation. You've got

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Speaker 1: world leaders talking about World War three. You've got people

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Speaker 1: talking about nuclear exchange possibility in the future. Nuclear exchange

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Speaker 1: a tremendous euphemism for thermonuclear warfare that would destroy US cities,

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Speaker 1: among others. So the stakes are as high as they

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Speaker 1: get for anything to get the situation in Ukraine right. Increasingly,

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing this argument that if we don't win in Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: then we'll have to fight in Ukraine, which to me

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Speaker 1: seems um well, we'll return to this, Clay, I want

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Speaker 1: to return to that that point, but something else that

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Speaker 1: we had mentioned. I want to bring us back to

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Speaker 1: US politics here for a second. Um Rona McDaniel on

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Speaker 1: CNN's State of the Union. That's still a thing apparently,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't know. I wasn't aware. CNN still chugging along.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Donna Bash, Dana Bash. I think I

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Speaker 1: called her Dana, and then everybody was like, it's Dana,

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Speaker 1: which like, DA got Dana Perino spelled the exact same way,

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Speaker 1: and then you got Dana Bash at CNN. So it

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Speaker 1: feels like that you should agree and it should be Dana,

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Speaker 1: but Dana, I believe miss miss bash. Yo with that one,

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Speaker 1: asked the RNC chair. Will will candidates be required to

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Speaker 1: sign a pledge saying that they will not sorry sorry

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Speaker 1: sorry scratch that that they will support whomever becomes the

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Speaker 1: nominee in order to get on the Republican debate stage

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Speaker 1: play it. We haven't put the criteria out, but I

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Speaker 1: expect a pledge will be part of it. It was

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Speaker 1: part of twenty sixteen. I think it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: no brainer, right, If you're going to be on the

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Speaker 1: Republican National Committee debate stage asking voters to support you,

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Speaker 1: you should say I'm going to support the voters and

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Speaker 1: who they choose as the nominee as R and C chair.

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Speaker 1: If I said I wouldn't support the Republican nominee. I

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Speaker 1: would be removed from office. Anybody getting on the Republican

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Speaker 1: National Committee debate stage should be able to say I

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Speaker 1: will support the will of the voters and the eventual

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Speaker 1: nominee of our party. How do you enforce it? Once

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Speaker 1: you get to the point where there is a presumptive nominee,

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Speaker 1: the debates are going to be over. So how do

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Speaker 1: you enforce this? We're saying you're not going to get

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Speaker 1: on the debate stage unless you make this pledge. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to get on the debate stage unless you

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Speaker 1: make this pledge. Clay, we all know who. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anyone's worried about Nicky Haley running third party. I

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Speaker 1: think we could all say that that's pretty clear. This

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Speaker 1: is about the possibility of a Trump primary not going

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Speaker 1: his way and then playing spoiler it. Enforcing this is

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Speaker 1: an interesting question, But I think more to the point,

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Speaker 1: this isn't like will you accept Hillary's win in twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen from the opposing party and he said, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see this is will you accept your own party's nominee?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? What do you think about how

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Speaker 1: this plays out well. So Trump famously refused to raise

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Speaker 1: he would agree to support the nominee in the event

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Speaker 1: that he was not the nominee. And at the time

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Speaker 1: I thought that was a good move by Trump because

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Speaker 1: he was an outsider who was not a part of

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Speaker 1: the political game. He's not an outsider anymore. He is

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Speaker 1: the former president of the the United States who has been

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Speaker 1: duly elected as the Republican nominee. So the idea that

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Speaker 1: the event we're not him, I think is a really

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Speaker 1: bad look for Trump. I also think it increases his power.

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Speaker 1: So I can understand why Trump Trump might say, my

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Speaker 1: the Republican debates. To me, this almost gives Trump an

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Speaker 1: out buck. And let me explain what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: Trump can say, I am by far the best candidate

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go on my campaign trail. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that the people need to hear from me in

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Speaker 1: else who's running can have the debates. I've already done

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Speaker 1: then he doesn't in any way have to sign any

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Speaker 1: sort of agreement. I also don't know, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: What do you what's the recourse if Donald Trump signs

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Speaker 1: right In twenty twenty two, Trump put up Sonny Purdue

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Speaker 1: destroyed Sonny Purdue. I think he beat him by fifty points.

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Speaker 1: Sonny Purdue was the hand selected choice of Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: to be the Republican governor of Georgia, and Brian Kemp

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Speaker 1: on to face Stacy Abrahams and Trump came out and

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Speaker 1: I think every way that he handled Brian Kemp, and

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Speaker 1: my concern is that was about Trump being upset at

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Speaker 1: We had Nicky Haley on the program the week that

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Speaker 1: she announced for the presidency. I don't think Buck, unless

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I don't think we've had Trump on the

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Speaker 1: program since November of twenty two, right right, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, we haven't had him on since.

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Speaker 1: Open invite. I'll reach out to his team and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: But I think this is the essence of the question,

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Speaker 1: which is if Trump were not the nominee, if somebody

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Speaker 1: else beat him, might be rand to Santos, maybe somebody

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Speaker 1: And it's also a lost opportunity, right, there's opportunity cost

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Speaker 1: these people and acknowledge what they are dealing with? And

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Speaker 1: then that is a default recognition that they blew it.

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Speaker 1: And so now I think they're just hoping this story

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Speaker 1: will go away. I think it's going to be an

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Speaker 1: issue for them for quite some time because Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: built his entire political career on the pretense that he

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Speaker 1: is a blue collar, working class guy who knows the

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Speaker 1: folks and cares about the folks. And you know, we

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Speaker 1: all know that he does this, you know, sometimes in

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Speaker 1: a blue collar on, blue collar off, depending on the circumstances,

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Speaker 1: but pretends to have this common touch. I mean reality,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has been living not just on a Senate salary,

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Speaker 1: but as a millionaire for a long time. I do

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Speaker 1: think there should be a little bit more interest from

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Speaker 1: where did all this money come from? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of weird hunters getting millions of dollars. And

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Speaker 1: also what about Joe's brother. There's some interesting stuff going

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Speaker 1: on here. So there's no interest as we know in

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Speaker 1: any of that. And also, Clay, notice how little you're

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Speaker 1: hearing about any kind of criminal anything about Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: at this point, it's just faded away. It could come back,

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Speaker 1: but it has faded away entirely. But Joe Biden hasn't

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Speaker 1: cared about working class people except when it comes to

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Speaker 1: fooling them in devoting for him in fifty years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is not the reality of who he is as

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Speaker 1: a person. Joe Biden moves among and is of the elites.

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Speaker 1: He is the ultimate Democrat machine politician. You know who

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Speaker 1: his real constituency is credit card companies based in Delaware.

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Speaker 1: That's who Joe Biden really has represented. By the way,

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Speaker 1: a lot of what the credit card companies were doing,

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Speaker 1: if they didn't have so much cover, would have actually

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Speaker 1: been criminal. Moving dates around so people have to pay

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Speaker 1: higher interest after they change the due date without really

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Speaker 1: telling anybody about it, accepting a letter that you may

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Speaker 1: or may not get. Joe Biden was enabling all that

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Speaker 1: for those of you who ever had problem with the

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Speaker 1: credit card companies and wondered, why isn't this, you know,

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Speaker 1: considered loan sharking. Basically, so, yeah, that's who Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: really is a fraud and he's Palestine. I think just

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Speaker 1: shows it no doubt. But James Clyburne made the decision

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people vote based on optics and

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Speaker 1: doddering old Uncle Joe was the Democrat's best option in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty because he seems unthreatening, even if the apparatus

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Speaker 1: that surrounds him is quite threatening to what many Americans

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Speaker 1: believe in. And this is where Joe Biden's own dementia riddled.

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Speaker 1: At times, it certainly appears public persona may even work

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Speaker 1: in his favor, because it's hard for these casual voters

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Speaker 1: out there that aren't paying a lot of attention on

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Speaker 1: a day to day basis to think that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is competent enough to be truly a bad and unfortunately

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Speaker 1: disaster of a president. He just seems like somebody's you know,

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Speaker 1: doddering old grandpa at Thanksgiving and that works to the

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Speaker 1: Democrat advantage as a result, And that's what they're going

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Speaker 1: to try to run again in twenty twenty six. That

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Speaker 1: is there twenty twenty four, to get him all the

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Speaker 1: way into election until he's eighty six years old. That's

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Speaker 1: our plan. Let me speak to all the gun owners

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Speaker 1: your skills sharp. It's just really expensive. Nine millimeter MO

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Speaker 1: five five six MMO. I got some cases of it

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Speaker 1: is going up in price. It's like the stock market,

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Speaker 1: except that's in the wrong direction. You can thank the

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Speaker 1: recession for that, the rising costs of ammunition. So how

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Speaker 1: do you keep your skills and ability to aim in

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Speaker 1: Listen to the program live, catchup on any part of

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Speaker 1: it part of a welcome back in Glay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sex and show Close enough the Monday edition of the program.

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Speaker 1: Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. Search up

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Speaker 1: my name Clay, Travis Buck Sex and no guests today.

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Speaker 1: Did take some of your calls? Appreciate all the involvement there.

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Speaker 1: We will are are scheduled to have Florida Governor Ron

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Speaker 1: De Santis on with us tomorrow. That should be interesting.

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Speaker 1: We will see what, if anything, we can clean about

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Speaker 1: his plans for twenty twenty four, as he will be

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Speaker 1: discussing the release of his newest book and as theoretically

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Speaker 1: a presidential campaign maybe inching closer there from him. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: when we were talking about off the air, I saw

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Speaker 1: this on Friday. So OutKick the company that I sold

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Speaker 1: the Fox couple of years ago, sports media company, and

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Speaker 1: check it out. OutKick dot com hired Kurt Schilling, who

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Speaker 1: should be in the Hall of Fame. Do you know

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Speaker 1: Kurt Schilling at all? Buck is yes, and you are okay.

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Speaker 1: So Kurt Schilling became, for those of you out there

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Speaker 1: who not super baseball fans or supersports fans in general,

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Speaker 1: very famous with the so called Bloody Sock Game when

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Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox finally ended there their long running

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Speaker 1: see A futility as it pertained to winning the World Series.

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Speaker 1: He was the pitcher on a team that was very

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Speaker 1: important to making that happen. And so as I was

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Speaker 1: rolling into the studio at Fox on Friday, there was

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Speaker 1: a Media Matters story. Now, Media Matters basically is just

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Speaker 1: a left wing propaganda outlet that is constantly obsessed with

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Speaker 1: trying to shut down anybody who is anything other than

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Speaker 1: far left wing. And so they had an article ripping

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Speaker 1: us for hiring Kurt Schilling, and I thought this was great.

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Speaker 1: I'm only mentioned as one sentence in the article, but

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Speaker 1: here's how I am described. This is on Media Matters website.

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Speaker 1: Right wing conspiracy theorist and sexist commentator Clay Travis founded

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Speaker 1: the site, so I couldn't help but laugh as I

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Speaker 1: was reading their article ripping us for hiring Kurtschilling. The

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00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: only mention of me is right wing conspiracy theorist and

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Speaker 1: sexist commentator Clay Travis. I mean, I am jealous by

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Speaker 1: the way. That's an awesome way to be described by

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Speaker 1: the left. The more when the Libs hate you and

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00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: don't even feel the need to explain why they can

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Speaker 1: call you the things that they do, that's when you

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00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: know you've really made it. You know, that's so funny

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Speaker 1: about it, Like there's no description of any of that.

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Speaker 1: It's just like I am those things they are labeling them,

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Speaker 1: and the funniest response I saw was, Oh, you should

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Speaker 1: just read this as sexiest commentator, which is I'm certainly

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Speaker 1: not true. But we could ask if you're gonna cally

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Speaker 1: change the impact there, if you're going to call somebody

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Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist, I think as a general rule you

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Speaker 1: should have to at least cite what the conspiracy theory is, because,

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Speaker 1: I mean, in your case, I'm assuming they probably were

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Speaker 1: pulling that from from COVID in some capacity, right, that's

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Speaker 1: the most likely site. I don't even know the show

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Speaker 1: with me for two years. Can you think of anything

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Speaker 1: that I've said on the air that you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a big conspiracy theory thing, Like just what we

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Speaker 1: both said about vaccines and masks and things that have

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Speaker 1: now all been proven to be correct or certainly much

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Speaker 1: more correct than what was being said by the Fauci consensus.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, to me, it just goes to show you, Clay,

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Speaker 1: when you're over the target, you're taking flat my friends,

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Speaker 1: so so good for you, Good for you and getting

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Speaker 1: that one and getting some heat. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: I had to tweet up a second ago, but Ann

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Speaker 1: Applebaum is a well known Soviet historian, and has written

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Speaker 1: some very highly regarded books history books. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I know of her from that. Specifically, I think on

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Speaker 1: Ukraine and the Holidame or the famine, the forced famine,

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Speaker 1: it should be noted by the Soviets in Ukraine as

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Speaker 1: part of a effort to a liquidate the Kulaks and

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Speaker 1: Ukrainians in general. She was somebody who, in response in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, in response to the COVID Wuhan lab leak theory,

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Speaker 1: called it Soviet level propaganda. In twenty twenty, in response

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Speaker 1: specifically to Tom Cotton talking about it on TV, why

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Speaker 1: why don't people feel any shame for this? Like if

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Speaker 1: I had accused somebody of Soviet level propaganda and they

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Speaker 1: were entirely right, I may not like them, but I

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Speaker 1: would at least say you were right. I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't. I shouldn't have said that that was And

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Speaker 1: I'm just using her as as a stand in for

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Speaker 1: the entire Democrat media apparatus. No, none of them feel

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Speaker 1: the need to say they were wrong about this. None

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Speaker 1: of them feel the need to say I'm sorry. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there were fact checks written about me, there were attacks

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Speaker 1: on me in the New York Times that were total bullcrap.

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Speaker 1: And on top of that I was right and they

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Speaker 1: were wrong. Are there any apologies? I mean, we just

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Speaker 1: got attacked the Times. I was attacked the Times before that, though,

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Speaker 1: and you know I was attacked by PolitiFact. You're now

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Speaker 1: being called a conspiracy theorist by it? Was it a

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Speaker 1: media ite or Media Matters, all Media Matters, Media Matters? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that's the you want your own vertical

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Speaker 1: at Media Matters, you know what I mean, You need

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Speaker 1: to have your They need to devote someone to just

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Speaker 1: this show. If they're not already, I think they might be,

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Speaker 1: because when the pseudo public interest and education group of

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Speaker 1: Media Matters starts attacking you, then then you know you're

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Speaker 1: you're doing God's work because they're the worst. They're the

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Speaker 1: worst alleged media organization or supposed media organization I think

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Speaker 1: of all of them, and they're laughably grotesque in what

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Speaker 1: they do. And I just think that we still need

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Speaker 1: to get people to come clean on how they were

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Speaker 1: wrong about all this stuff, because you can still go

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Speaker 1: out and find it out there. They basically slandered people,

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Speaker 1: and they don't they don't seem to care. There's no

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Speaker 1: there's no problem whatsoever with and I think that that's

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Speaker 1: something that it's not okay for that to stay out there.

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Speaker 1: And if we had gotten something really wrong about COVID,

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Speaker 1: I'd come on the show and say it. No. In fact,

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Speaker 1: people try to get people fired for saying the right

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Speaker 1: things about COVID and they feel no remorse whatsoever because

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Speaker 1: it was just attack the enemy with lies. Whatever you

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Speaker 1: have to do, attack the enemy. And you and I

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Speaker 1: are the enemy, my friend, the enemy of the commies,

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Speaker 1: which is a good person to be the enemy of.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm happy to be out there taking

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Speaker 1: you know, shrapnel every single day over this stuff. But

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Speaker 1: what I see is the attacks are increasingly a rear

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Speaker 1: guard action as they are trying to retreat from the

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Speaker 1: battlefield because they've just been swamped with the actual truth.

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Speaker 1: And the way that I think that's best to explain it,

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Speaker 1: Buck is no one is getting any of these COVID

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Speaker 1: shots anymore. No one there is. Well, we can maybe

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Speaker 1: have some fun tomorrow with a woman who told her

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Speaker 1: story of getting COVID despite getting six booster shots and

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Speaker 1: wearing masks while she's outdoor swimming, which is a doctor really,

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Speaker 1: But when you look at the earnings reports, and I

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Speaker 1: was reading. Over the weekend, Maderna came out with their

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Speaker 1: earnings report. They made twenty billion dollars in profit off

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Speaker 1: of the COVID shots. That's our taxpayer dollars. They now

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Speaker 1: are warning that their profit is diminishing rapidly because nobody's

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Speaker 1: taking these shots. So even people who are out there arguing, oh,

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Speaker 1: the COVID shot is one of the greatest scientific advances

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Speaker 1: of all time, they're not taking it. Even in fact,

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Speaker 1: there are going to be tens of millions of dollars

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Speaker 1: in Maderna Fizer vaccine doses that are never used because

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Speaker 1: the gig is up. People have recognized that they've been

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Speaker 1: lied to. I guess getting shot number twelve not such

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Speaker 1: a good idea