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Speaker 1: What's that at bed It's spooky, Hey jooky. I'm really

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Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: I ghosted las nandaz.

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Speaker 2: Plle.

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Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by

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Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that

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Speaker 1: I like about the paranormal and Halloween time is over

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Speaker 1: just like that, but of course it continues on here

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Speaker 1: all year round. And I actually, you know, I'm going

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Speaker 1: on the road doing doing some ghosted Lives within the

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Speaker 1: next two months or so. So if you happen to

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Speaker 1: miss me in San Francisco and Los Angeles, that's over.

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Speaker 1: But I will be doing it in Brooklyn, that's Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: New York, on the eighth of December. That same week,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to Portland on the eleventh and the thirteenth

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Speaker 1: in Seattle. All of that stuff you can find at

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Speaker 1: linktree dot com slash Raz Hernandez for the tickets. I'm

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Speaker 1: also just doing stand up, not about ghosts, not about ghosts,

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Speaker 1: but I will be doing stand up at Good Nights

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Speaker 1: in Raleigh on the seventh of November, and I'm also

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Speaker 1: going to do a Seattle one the same night as

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Speaker 1: my ghost did, so I'd love to see you there.

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Speaker 1: I know I mentioned this stuff constantly, but it is

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Speaker 1: so interesting the way I don't know algorithm. Listen. I

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Speaker 1: can't expect people to keep up with everything I'm doing,

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Speaker 1: but I listen. I'm gonna be in Brooklyn on the eighth,

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Speaker 1: ever come to New York? I was in Philly a

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Speaker 1: comment from someone that goes, why don't you ever come

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Speaker 1: A couple of empty seats in the audience. This is

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, people, But I love to see

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Speaker 1: you there. Uh, okay, listen. It is a lovely time

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Speaker 1: There's so much ghost content and it's not even Halloween anymore.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm also doing the Haunted Doll on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Ros Fernandez The Haunted I've been loving people telling me

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Speaker 1: how much they love it. And I have now released

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Speaker 1: But this listener episode, oh god, I love talking to

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Speaker 1: should just get right into it because we've got a

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Speaker 1: with the show. Oh my god, I'm joined by me

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Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Hello, Hi, I love.

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Speaker 1: Okay, these stories you sent, there's a story about a brothel,

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Speaker 1: a former brothel, which yes, I especially living on like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. So the place that you you

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you're over here dealing with vampires. You're dealing

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Speaker 2: Well, I never encounter her, but I had one of

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Speaker 2: Exactly what I had been in in my dream. And

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Speaker 2: I was very freaked out, but also like very pleased.

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Speaker 1: He experienced Julia.

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Speaker 2: No, and he you know, I don't know if that's

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Speaker 1: She's probably cool. Yeah, these brothel goess, I feel like

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Speaker 3: I know it's jealousy.

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Speaker 2: So who knows? Yeah, super wild time that restaurant has

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Speaker 1: But what made you think that it was a boy,

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Speaker 1: It's so like would you have these moments where you're

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that little apartment, I mean that whole building.

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Speaker 2: It's like a tiny little town south of Santa Barbara. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that was, but I've never felt

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Speaker 1: And everybody kind of agreed.

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Speaker 1: Well, I bet those aliens came down because they heard

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Speaker 2: Totally not that trip they were expecting. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That town has a lot of like funny stories and

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Speaker 1: Don't know about this one. I need to look it up.

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Speaker 1: Summer Land.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a tiny it's like a town of a

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Speaker 1: Amazing. I love these like spiritualist colonies, and there's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the kind of spiritualist leader guy whose name I

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Speaker 2: can't recall, but his house is still there in Summerland,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if anybody's in there, so maybe

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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess I have to.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, this has been fabulous. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Raz. That was so much fun to talk

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Mesh. Next up is storm Miguel, who talks

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Speaker 1: to us about bumping into a ghost as a child,

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Speaker 1: a ghost who dialed a rotary phone in the seventies. Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love that, all right, Storm Megal, tell us what

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Speaker 4: Hi High Rods.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm good, thank you. I'm really excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: You got store trees. Where do we start?

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's start at childhood. When I bumped into a.

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Speaker 4: Okay? This was an Albuquerque in the house I grew

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Speaker 4: maybe about I want to say, like seven or eight.

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Speaker 4: My brother and I shugged him. We had bunk beds

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Speaker 1: What was that?

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Speaker 4: And then I get under the covers. I know it

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Speaker 4: eyes really tight, opened them. He was still there. Shut

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00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 4: my eyes really tight, open him. He was still there.

438
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 4: And eventually just like herew the covers over my head

439
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: until I fell asleep. And that was kind of in

440
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 4: the morning, like around dusk. And then one time someone

441
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 4: dialed their rotary phone in the kitchen behind me, and

442
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 4: nobody was in there, so I was like watching TV.

443
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 4: It was late at night. Everybody was asleep, and all

444
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 4: the bedrooms were like to my kind of front front right,

445
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 4: and the kitchen was directly behind me, and that's where

446
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 4: the phone was. And I was watching TV and I

447
00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: heard the and I just I just froze. I quietly

448
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 4: reached over and turned off the TV. This was back

449
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 4: in the day when you had to reach over to

450
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,719
Speaker 4: turn off TV. We didn't have them controls. And I

451
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 4: ran down to my room because I was horrified. I

452
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: was talking to a friend about it later and I

453
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, and I never saw her. My friend

454
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 4: was like, how did you know it? Was a she,

455
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 4: and then like we both just got like all sleeked

456
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 4: out about it and account did they know that? But

457
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 4: I sensed it, I guess.

458
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: So then you run to your room where the old

459
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: man is.

460
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 4: That was a different room I read, But at that

461
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 4: point I was in a different room because my sister

462
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: had left for college. So I ran down to the

463
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 4: room in my new room. I didn't have any ghostly

464
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 4: experiences in that room, just upstairs.

465
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: I just wonder about, like if you're like, say, an

466
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: old man that dies in the house, and then like

467
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: does how does it work where it's like a I

468
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like sitting and watching these two

469
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: kids sleep for a little bit, like I.

470
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 4: Know it's creepy, maybe like I feel like watching this

471
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 4: TV show that this kid's watching and then didn't get

472
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 4: out of the room in time, didn't realize it's gonna

473
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: be walking in that direction.

474
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm just always like where did that go? Like, are

475
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: they around twenty four to seven most of the time

476
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: invisible or did they just come and go? And where

477
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: do they go?

478
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, they goes in chairs in different rooms. I guess

479
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: chairs that aren't there. But the weird thing is like

480
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 4: we were the first people to live in that house.

481
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 4: I know you hear the Latin your stories where people

482
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: are like, we're the first person. And this was like

483
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 4: an old white man. He was kind of big, had

484
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: a cool headhair, silver hair, Saddy daddy for sure.

485
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: Hmm. I wonder where that zaddy came from.

486
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I heard there was like a ranch in

487
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: that part of the city before they actually developed there.

488
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

489
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: Well, tell me another one I want to hear about

490
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: this Elvis story.

491
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 4: Okay, So I've had some psychic.

492
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: Dreams, meaning what like predictions.

493
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: So predictions, but like predictions that you would never know that.

494
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: That's what it was. So okay, So I had a

495
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 4: dream one night that I was hanging out with my

496
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 4: friend and her face looked different and I couldn't quite

497
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 4: figure it out, and she's kind of sad. And then

498
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: the next part of the dream, I was filming Elvis

499
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: through like a little camera and he was performing on stage,

500
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: but I could only get parts of him. I couldn't

501
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 4: get the full guy. I can only get like a

502
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 4: little bit of his space or like his armor, like

503
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: his shoulder. And that was that. So I woke up

504
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: and I journaled. I wrote the dream down, put it

505
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: away completely, forgot about it. So about three weeks later,

506
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 4: I saw a friend of mine that was in the

507
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 4: dream and she had this scar on her chin. It

508
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 4: made it look like she had a cleft in her chin,

509
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, what happened to

510
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 4: your chin? She was like, oh, I had to get stitches.

511
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 4: I was at my friend's house and he had this

512
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 4: kind of trapeeze and I swung on it and it

513
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 4: broke and dashed into his elvis mirror and like split

514
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: my chin open, and I was like whoa, Just like yeah,

515
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 4: it was crazy that the mirror was like totally you know, shattered,

516
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 4: Elvis was on pieces. I'd forgotten about my dream and

517
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: I went home and like a few days later was

518
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 4: looking through my journal and found that dream. I mean

519
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 4: that's like, yeah, like that's kind of that's the same thing,

520
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: but not right. Like, there's no way I could have

521
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: dreamt that and been like, oh no, this person's gonna

522
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 4: hurt themselves. You know, crashed into an Elvis mirror, the

523
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 4: trapeze is going to break.

524
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: You didn't rig the trap peez so that it would

525
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Elvis mirror.

526
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 4: I mean, had I thought about if this person was

527
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: a little messy and sometimes you know, might have wanted

528
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: to do that, but no, I did not do that.

529
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: What's that? What's the FBI thing?

530
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 4: Similar situation. I had a weird dream that I was

531
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: at my ex girlfriend's house down south in New Mexico,

532
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: and when we walked in and her girlfriend like this

533
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: kind of butch dy like kind of pulled me aside

534
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: and gave me a big hug from behind and then

535
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: covered my face and then like was shoving cocaine up

536
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 4: my nose. It was a very weird dream. And then

537
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 4: the rest of the dream, I was really high without

538
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: trying to be. And I kept saying her big brothers

539
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 4: listening to us, big brothers listening to us. And I

540
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 4: was thinking my big brother in the dream, like my

541
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: big brother's listening. We can't call anyone. I can't call

542
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 4: my girlfriend. I want to tell her I'm here, but

543
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: I can't call her. And so that happened, right. I

544
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: wrote it all down, and I wrote down a bunch

545
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: of weird details from the dream. It was very vivid.

546
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: I swear. About three months later, I go to visit

547
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: my girlfriend and southern New Mexico and her and her

548
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: girlfriend and it's morning time and my ex had to

549
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: leave and it was just me and her girlfriend in

550
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: the house, and all of a sudden, here boo boo

551
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: boo boo boom, and it was the FBI, and think,

552
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: I'm like busting in the house, and they arrest my

553
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: ex'es girlfriend and I knew why because, like I that

554
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 4: she had been bringing in some marijuana across the border,

555
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 4: and so I kind of figured that was it. And

556
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 4: then the rest of the day, we were already finally

557
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 4: came over and we were all freaked out, and we

558
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 4: were drinking, and I was pretty drunk, and I was

559
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 4: trying to call my current girlfriend to tell her what

560
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 4: it happened, but I was also really nervous to I

561
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: was like, what if Thefty I was listening with Defty.

562
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 4: I was listening and I called her, and in the

563
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 4: dream I was too high to like dial the phone, right,

564
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: you know, I had dreams you can't quite dial a

565
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 4: phone number or do the thing you need to do this,

566
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: And in real life I kept missing up the phone

567
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 4: number because I was drunk, because we were all stressed

568
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: out and drinking. And then later that night, I was

569
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: writing in my journal and I just happened to like

570
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: turn back to the page like months ago and I

571
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: had talked about that whole entire dream, and there were

572
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: all these little details, like my big brother was listening.

573
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: I was afraid to call my girlfriend, Like there was

574
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: just all these details that I wouldn't have known to

575
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 4: predict what happened in us. Those are similar, right, like

576
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: just n my head.

577
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: Does this kind of a thing happen to you nowadays?

578
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: Not really. Occasionally I'll have dreams that like similar dreams

579
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 4: as a friend or like you know, I'll have a

580
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 4: feeling of something's going on with somebody in a dream,

581
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: or I'll have like just kind of a dream where

582
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: someone's sad. I have a particular friend and I'll be

583
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: like you okay, and she'd be like, shut up, how

584
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: did you know? You know? We both should do that

585
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: with each other though, But I don't do that as

586
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: much as I used to.

587
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: What's the story with you getting tugged by a ghost?

588
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: That was another house I lived in where the guy

589
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: who lived there was an apartment, had died, not in

590
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: the place, but while he lived there, he was like

591
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: in impatient care for like psychiatric stuff from what I

592
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: had heard, and I used to have weird stuff happened

593
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: in that house. And one night I was laying in

594
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,959
Speaker 4: bed and I felt like I felt something kind of

595
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: on top of me. But then it started to kind

596
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 4: of like the blanket started tightening around me, and I

597
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: was like whoa what. I wanted to like jump up,

598
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: and I was like, no, no, hold on, what is this?

599
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 4: Just like I was like, let's just be curious for

600
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: a moment. And I just felt like I was being

601
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: hugged and it felt so nice, and I was like, oh,

602
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: this is so cozy, this is weird, but like it

603
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 4: doesn't seem like mean. I was just like okay, and

604
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: it was just like hugging you and if they'll all embrace.

605
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, I felt myself kind

606
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: of rising up off the bed and then I felt

607
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 4: something like like starting to pull me, like tug me

608
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: towards the edge of the bed, and I just like

609
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: broke out, like I just kind of like jerked and

610
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 4: like was back where Like I didn't feel myself land,

611
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 4: but I also didn't feel like I woke up. It

612
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: didn't feel like I came out of sleep. I just

613
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 4: was suddenly like back down on the bed and nothing else.

614
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: That's one of those many things with ghosts where I'm like,

615
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: this could be fun and cool if we can like

616
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: figure this out, if we can, this can be like

617
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: a collaborative effort, right, Like it would be really cool

618
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: to be able to just like pick me up sometimes

619
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: and like but we'll think I'm like have magic powers.

620
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: That would be so cool, I know.

621
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: And then it had to make it weird by like

622
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: yanking my feet. I'm like, why did you have to

623
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 4: do that? It was going really well before that, you're

624
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: saying really great.

625
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they just they push their boundaries too far.

626
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 4: No tugging, no tugging, no sudden movements.

627
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: Tell me more stories.

628
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: I know. All my stories are kind of little snippets

629
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 4: of my life. I went to Alcatraz on the little

630
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 4: tour once with my friends.

631
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I've never done that. Is it good? Would you recommend it?

632
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 3: Well?

633
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: Personally, after this experience, I was like, I don't want

634
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: to come back here. Okay, it's a trip like they're

635
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: oh that place was haunted.

636
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to go. I just don't want to

637
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: be like in a tour group. I want to like

638
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: sneak off and go investigate on my own.

639
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: Well, this happened to me while I was with a

640
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: tour group. So like I was walking and you had

641
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: like this little like these little headphones. I don't know,

642
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: this is years ago, so I don't know if this

643
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: to her, really do it. I had little headphones on

644
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: and it was like kind of you're walking through the

645
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: tour and it's telling you if you look to your left,

646
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: you know, you'll see these sills in this book is

647
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: so And then at one point it was like touch

648
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: the metal bars, you know they wanted to go kind

649
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 4: of just how solid they were, and so I touched them.

650
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: I was totally fine. I was like da dah, da

651
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: da dah, this is interesting, Like okay, I touched the

652
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 4: metal bar, and then all of a sudden, I just

653
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: started bawling, like emotions just didn't even feel like mine

654
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 4: just came through me and I was just sobbing. And

655
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 4: I immediately like let go of the bar, was like

656
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: what just happened? And actually left. I went out to

657
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: the little like yard because I just couldn't be in

658
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 4: there anymore and my friend. I waited for my friends,

659
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: but I just couldn't. I was just like this place

660
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: is so sad. I can't. I can't stay here. So

661
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: it wasn't even scary. It was just like, oh my god,

662
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 4: so many horrible things happened here. Yeah, but yeah, the

663
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: times is like, it's an intense thing. But I would

664
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 4: say it's worth going once. I don't regret going. But

665
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: I couldn't even finish the tour.

666
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Okay, whatever I do when I go, I will not

667
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: touch the metal bars. That would piss me off. If

668
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: I just started crying on my vacation.

669
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: No, I know, yeah, no, it was. It was pretty intense.

670
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: I mean that was fine afterwards, but I was just like,

671
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: I'm not I don't need to be here.

672
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: I think you're a psychic.

673
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 4: I mean I used to be. I think I used

674
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: to be a lot more sensitive.

675
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: You lost it.

676
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: I lost it, and I feel like I know the

677
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 4: moment I lost it, actually what happened. Okay, So I

678
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 4: used to be very sensitive to things, right, I would

679
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: kind of have these weird ghostly experiences. But I was

680
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: also very freaked out a lot, so like just turning

681
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: the corner in a dark like you know, I lived

682
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 4: in this one house that was kind of like you

683
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: had to get there through the backyard, and whenever I

684
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: would go there at night, I would just be so

685
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 4: freaked out. I was like, something is out here and

686
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: it was just I hated how it felt was freaking

687
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: me out. Nothing ever happened. But then one time I

688
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: was in Texas staying with a friend and she let

689
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: me borrow her car and it was a little like

690
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 4: like a books writing for Vertible or something. And I

691
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: was driving back to her place and it was like

692
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 4: in the hills. It was in Wimberley, Texas, and so

693
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 4: it was really like dark, and I was driving with

694
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: the top down, and I was just like driving through

695
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: all these like dark trees in this dark road, and

696
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 4: I was feeling that feeling and I was like, oh,

697
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: there's something out here that its gross. I don't know

698
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 4: what to do with it. And then got to her

699
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 4: place and I was still feeling it, like I wanted

700
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: just to run from the car to the house. And

701
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: then I decided that I wanted to just like be

702
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: with the fear of it, and I was just like, nope,

703
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to will myself to stay in this. And

704
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: so I decided she had some land and she had

705
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: this weird little kind of this little kind of shed

706
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: that if you walked through it. On the other side

707
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: there was like really beautiful view. So I walked down

708
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: this path by myself, and every step I took I

709
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: was just like horrified because I can just whatever the

710
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: creeps I was feeling was just so intense. And then

711
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 4: I went into the little like shed, which was really

712
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 4: kind of creepy, and I got to the other side

713
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 4: and I just told myself, I'm just going to sit

714
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: here and look out to nothing, to darkness until I

715
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 4: stopped feeling afraid. And so I sat there and was

716
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: all creeped out in wonder what I was gonna see

717
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 4: in every little noise I heard just kind of freaked

718
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: me out. And then I stayed there until it subsided,

719
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: just completely subsided. I don't know what happened, but I

720
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 4: suddenly it was just like not afraid. It was gone.

721
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: And then I walked back to the house no problem.

722
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't scary going back through all the

723
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 4: kind of dark little pathways and stuff. And I swear

724
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: since then, I have not felt like the creeps at

725
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: all like I used to. Whenever I have like what

726
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: would be considered a nightmare, it's more interesting than scary.

727
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: And also, like I stopped being able to sense things

728
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 4: in the way that I used.

729
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: To what I know, so fair, I know.

730
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: I was like, wait a minute, I went too far.

731
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: I guess. I don't know. I wasn't trying to like

732
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: make those things go away, but I was just like,

733
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to feel scared anymore.

734
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: Well, that's good. That part of it is good.

735
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: It is. It is kind of nice. Yeah, I don't

736
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 4: I don't get so freaked out, I think, but I

737
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 4: do miss having the more kind of keen connection with

738
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: things on the other side or I don't know if

739
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 4: it's the other side, but just like unseen paranormal whatnot.

740
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: Well, I believe in you. I believe it's still there.

741
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: Oh it'll come back.

742
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 4: Thank you, manthee, I'll ask okay. To be honest, listening

743
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 4: to your show has kind of made me more curious

744
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: about it and kind of wanting to get back in

745
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 4: touch with it because I just haven't really thought of

746
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: it too much over the past several years, and so

747
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 4: listening to your show has been a really nice way

748
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 4: to get in touch with kind of even just that

749
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: part of myself, even if I can't fully experience it

750
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: like maybe I will. Yeah, yeah, I want to see something.

751
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes people say that listening to my podcast makes ghosts

752
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: up here. I don't know if that's true. I don't

753
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: want people to know that because I don't want them

754
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: to stop listening. But people say if they're open to it,

755
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

756
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 4: Listening to your podcasts, it's like, I think it opens

757
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: things up for people, you know, whether it's seeing ghosts

758
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: or not. But like it's like when you're sitting around

759
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: the fire and people tell me those stories, right, like

760
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 4: suddenly your senses are like really become way more keen,

761
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: and you hear every little thing and you see things,

762
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: and like, listening to these stories, I think they just

763
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: kind of open up our senses more.

764
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I will say every once in a while,

765
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: if I go to a movie theater, I see something

766
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: real spooky. As soon as I get home, I'm like, well,

767
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: the demon crawled out of the movie screen and they're

768
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: in my apartment.

769
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: Uh, all the reading style just followed you home.

770
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm fully convinced. And of course it's not the case,

771
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: but yes, my senses are heightened. M Yeah, well Storm,

772
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: Miguel brus this has been lovely. Thank you so much.

773
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you so much, Thank.

774
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: You Storm, Miguel. You know what I need a little

775
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: bit of Margaret in my life. And Margaret, this one

776
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: cracked me up. Margaret's got a story about encountering Anne

777
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: Bolin's ghost, so you're not gonna want to miss that, Margaret,

778
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: give it to us. Hello Margaret in Washington.

779
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: D C.

780
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: How are you?

781
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm good, Ross, How are.

782
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: You so good? I was laughing. Look at these stories

783
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: you sent, you wrote, I don't know what those tutor

784
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: bitches have against me. Tell me about these tutor bitches. Sure.

785
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: So the first is probably a little bit more obscure

786
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: historical reference on its reference to Mary Tudor, who was

787
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: Elizabeth the first half sister. She is the daughter of

788
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: Captain of Aragon and Henry Bates. This ties into, you know,

789
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 3: the legend of Bloody Mary, and there's obviously quite a

790
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: bit of speculation as to who Bloody Mary really is.

791
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: My family is originally from Ireland, so, you know, being

792
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: good Irish people, my grandfather always would find a way

793
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: to make the English, you know, history's greatest villain. So

794
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: as far as we were concerned, Bloody Mary had to

795
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 3: have been Mary Tutor, who did actually have the moniker

796
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: of Bloody Mary because of her campaign to basically restore

797
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: Catholicism unsuccessfully back in England. But anyway, so I'm a

798
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: little girl, I'm first starting getting into horror. I'm probably

799
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: about nine, and you know, I think, like most kids

800
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: around that age, it kind of starts with like Bourbon legends, right,

801
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: so like the legend of the hook man, you know,

802
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 3: like the babysitter, the calls coming from inside the house,

803
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: and of course Bloody Mary. And so I'm you know,

804
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: having my little friends over at my house after school,

805
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 3: and we start talking about it, and I start telling

806
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: them about Bloody Mary and how the game of Bloody

807
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: Mary goes, and of course, you know, they're like, oh

808
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: my god, like that's not real, that totally is just

809
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: a made up thing. And so of course we get

810
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: the brilliant little idea of like, well, let's test it.

811
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: So we pile into my bedroom. We shut my bedroom door,

812
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: we pulled down all the shades and the curtains, and

813
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 3: there's a mirror on the back of my bedroom door.

814
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 3: Go over to the bedroom door and we start chanting,

815
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: you know, Bloody Mary. And as we get to the

816
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: third and final time, of saying it. We start like

817
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: getting more and more ramfunctious and hugging each other on

818
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: and like, oh, are you gonna say it? No, you

819
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: say it? No, I'm gonna say it.

820
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: No hear it?

821
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: Oh, you're like an eighty. So of course we start

822
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: to say it the third time, when all of a sudden,

823
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: the shade behind us fly up violently, so loudly and

824
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: strongly that I had little glass figurines on my desk

825
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 3: in front of it. It knocked several of them over,

826
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 3: and so we never got it out the third time,

827
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: but we ran out of there screaming hysteria, you know,

828
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: like piling into the yard. I don't know why we

829
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: thought running into the yard was going to help us,

830
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: but that was our plan, because you know.

831
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: We were children, you know what. I have a theory

832
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: that's not true, but I always feel like ghosts can't

833
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: be outside. So if I'm like, because I've just been

834
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: ghost hunting and I'm like I need to take a break,

835
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: and I just go outside, it's like the ghost could

836
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: probably go outside too, I think, so bloody Mary can

837
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: find her way out there.

838
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

839
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: Did you ever do bloody Mary with a third time?

840
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: Where you said it.

841
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: No, no, because I you know, it's like there's like

842
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 3: a logical explanation is that, you know, maybe I didn't

843
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: pull down the shade correctly, like it didn't walk and

844
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: engage correctly. Although it's like kind of weird that there

845
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: was that that long of a delay before it popped

846
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: back up. But I'm like, I am not going to

847
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: try if it's just a shade, like, no, I'm good.

848
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 3: I'm not going to mess with that again. We're good.

849
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: I respect you, bloody Mary, whoever you may actually be.

850
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: Please don't come and calm my eyes out.

851
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I just have like slight memories as

852
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: a kid of like of also being like I'm just

853
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna like say it once and if she doesn't come

854
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: out then like then I'm not gonna keep going. I

855
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: don't want to bother her. I don't want to wake

856
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: her up. She's busy. She's the busy lady. There's a

857
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: lot of slumber parties going on right now.

858
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yes, she's not afraid to scare children. So yeah,

859
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: I don't think I know anybody who's ever successfully done

860
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 3: it free time either.

861
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: Well, the thought of looking into a mirror and just

862
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: seeing anybody behind you where you're supposed to be whatever.

863
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: It's so scary for sure, some spooky lady just appearing.

864
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: Oh yes, the classic or movie for per reason.

865
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So did you have other encounters with these tudor bitches?

866
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 3: I did, And so the other tutor bitch is probably

867
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: the more famous of the two Tutor bitches, Anne Bolynn,

868
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: who of course was famously executed by Henry because let's

869
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: see real, he just didn't want to be married to

870
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 3: her anymore and she had ideas and he didn't like that,

871
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: and he was a pig. So this was when I

872
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: was in my mid twenties and I went to London

873
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: on vacation and I went to the Tower of London

874
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: because I'm a big history nerd, so you know, it

875
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: was on my list of like, I wanted to go

876
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: to the Tower London. I want to see the Crown jewels,

877
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: all that other stuff, walk the ground and so on

878
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 3: there and I get the beef Eater tour and we're

879
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: walking around and you know, he's going through their history

880
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 3: and telling us all about England and about the history

881
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 3: of the tower, and you know, covers the many people

882
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 3: that had been in the tower and especially during Henry's rain.

883
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: He loved to throw people in the tower and of

884
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 3: course Amblen was no exception. She stayed in the tower

885
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: before she was executed, and like her whole execution is

886
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: like very sad, like she basically watched her brother be executed.

887
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: It's horrible what he did to her. And you know,

888
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: she thought that she was going to go to a nunnery.

889
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 3: So we thought he was really going to go through

890
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: with it and would somehow like show her mercy at

891
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: the last minute. And his idea, Murphy was like, well,

892
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: I'll just get like a French sportsman, so they don't

893
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: have to hack your head off. I'll come off in

894
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: one swo have been Aren't I a great guy?

895
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: Ah? I know?

896
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 3: And they say romances Dad ras so the theaters, you know,

897
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: winding down the tour, and he says to us like basically,

898
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: you know, you can go on your own and see

899
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: where like the big main attractions are, and you know,

900
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: like if you want to go see the Crown Jewels,

901
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: this is where you go. If you want to see

902
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: a couple other tombs, this is where you go. And

903
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: then he said, you know, and if you want to

904
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 3: go see the chambers where she was held. This is

905
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: where you go, and he says, you know, she is

906
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: known to have encounters with young women, and you know,

907
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, yeah, he's trying to do like,

908
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 3: oh spooky. And I went and saw like other things

909
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: first because I figured like it might be a little crowded.

910
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: I really definitely want to see that more than the

911
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: Crown jewels, because, like I said, I'm a big nerd.

912
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 3: So walk around a little bit, and then I go

913
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 3: into what were her chambers before her execution. And I

914
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 3: go up there and I'm reading you know, the history

915
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: of it, and you know, sort of her ordeal up

916
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: before her execution, and all of a sudden, I feel

917
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: on my right shoulder. Somebody very gently placed their hand

918
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: on my shoulder, and simultaneously I feel like the most

919
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: intense sensation of goosebumps, like but beyond goosebumps, Like it

920
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 3: literally felt like somebody had zapt me with like a

921
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 3: handheld stunner or something like stun guns. That's how violent

922
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: it was. Like it went up my shoulder, my neck,

923
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: all across my scalp and like into my face. And

924
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: I mean, this is like twenty plus years ago. I

925
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: still remember the sensation of the thing because it was

926
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,439
Speaker 3: so intense. And I whirl around like convincing myself like, oh,

927
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 3: it must be the beef theater. And he's like playing

928
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: a joke on me, or somebody from the group is

929
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: playing a joke on me.

930
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: To scare me.

931
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 3: Turn around. I'm in the chamber completely alone. There's nobody there,

932
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well me, They like ran into the

933
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 3: other room, and I didn't hear them, you know, because

934
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, there's no way like this, actually,

935
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: you know, somebody's playing joke with me. So I went

936
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: into the other room. M nobody is in the other

937
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: room either. I'm completely alone, and I just was like

938
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: okay and duly noted and just ran out of their

939
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 3: like as fast as I could.

940
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: I just took off running.

941
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: You met a famous person, You had a straight up

942
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: one on one meet and greet interaction with the ambole.

943
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: In pretty much that's cool. She was just like, run

944
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: for your life, Henry's its pig, get out of here.

945
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: Well, I think that sounds nice, Like, I mean, it

946
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: is creepy. Listen, anytime a ghost like is touching someone,

947
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: it's creepy, but like it seems like she was like

948
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: well intentioned, just like I feel like.

949
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: She was trying to scare me, because, like I said,

950
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 3: it was a very it was just a very gentle

951
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: touch on my shoulder. But what made it creepy was

952
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: just like how strongly my body reacted to it. So

953
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: like I knew even before I turned around, like, no,

954
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: you're alone in this room. There's there is nobody in here.

955
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: Nobody's playing a joke on you.

956
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get me wrong. I would run out of

957
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: there too, and I did.

958
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, my aunt, you were totally set up.

959
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: Henry's a bum bye.

960
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, tell me more, tell me more.

961
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: My other story is about a trip I took to Iceland.

962
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: And so, like I said, you know, my family's Irish.

963
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: My grandmother is from a part of Ireland that's very,

964
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: very rural, and she was incredibly superstitious, and so she

965
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: would always like tell us stories about like the little

966
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: people or leprechauns or elves and fairies, and you know

967
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: how elves and leprechauns or the little people are tricksters.

968
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 3: They're notorious tricksters, and so you know, she'd be like, oh,

969
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 3: you know, you can't make them mad because they'll start

970
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 3: playing pranks on you, and the pranks like we'll escalate

971
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: and see seriousness and you know, like basically just telling

972
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 3: these little kids stories about fays and fairies and elves

973
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 3: and how they're you know, little monsters that are just

974
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: there to like kind of mess with you. So Iceland

975
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 3: also has like a very strong culture of elves and trolls,

976
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: and you know in anavy and folklore and Irish folklore

977
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: are very very similar, and there's a strong connection between

978
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: Ireland and Iceland in particular because the Vikings went to

979
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: Ireland grabbed their drossing back to Iceland to populate Iceland,

980
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: which isn't the nicest part of the story, but it's historical.

981
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: But you know, it came up a couple of times

982
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: in conversation with Icelandic people and like, oh right, you're

983
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 3: Irish decent, like we have such a long history together.

984
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, I've heard, and so there with my

985
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 3: friend and uh like as I got there, little things

986
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: kept disappearing, like nothing serious, and it started with like

987
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: a tube of lipstick. Then it was like some paperwork

988
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: for the flight or like our hotel. I think it

989
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 3: was then it was a sock, like a single sock disappeared,

990
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: and then just like this is this is weird. And

991
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 3: then I like lost the key to the hotel, and

992
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: you know, my friend had her cart. It wasn't a

993
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: big deal, like nothing that was gonna like really trip

994
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 3: me up. But during the trip, my luggage had been

995
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: like caught in the baggage plane, so it'd been ripped open,

996
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: and I still needed like my bag and tack to

997
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: get back home. So my friend had a very smart

998
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: idea of like, hey, let's see if you can get

999
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: some surgical tape, because you should be able to like

1000
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: sort of Mickey mouse your bags so you don't have

1001
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 3: to buy a new bag, but you can get back

1002
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: home without it, you know, having to replace. And I

1003
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 3: was like that's a good idea, So get the surgical tape.

1004
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: I'm repairing my bag, and you know, she's helping me,

1005
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 3: and she gets up to like go wash her hands,

1006
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: and I put down the tape for a second and

1007
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: the tape just disappears, and you know, I'm rummaging around my.

1008
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 4: Friends like what are you doing?

1009
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: Like the tape gone. She's like, what do you mean

1010
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: the tape gone? Like the taste gone, so that's impossible.

1011
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: You just had it. I'm like, I I understand, but

1012
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: it's gone, Wendy. It's like gone into the ethers. And

1013
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: she's like, oh, this is ridiculous. So she helps me

1014
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: take apart the bed. We're looking under it, the you know,

1015
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: we're looking Edward down on our hands, knees, and she

1016
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 3: keeps saying, this is ridiculous.

1017
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: You just had it.

1018
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: This is ridiculous. I'm like, I know, I know, I know,

1019
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: but I'm telling you it's gone. Which just a bit,

1020
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: everything finally in nick defeat, like the tape has somehow

1021
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: just disappeared into thin air. And I said to my friend,

1022
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, Wendy, I got to do something, and

1023
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna probably think I'm demented, but like I need

1024
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: to do this, and she's like okay, and so I said,

1025
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 3: all right, like little people, elves, fairies, grandma, whoever's listening,

1026
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 3: but mostly elves, please stop playing pranks on me. I

1027
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: know you think this is funny, but like I don't

1028
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: want to lose my path for it. And if I've

1029
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 3: done anything to offend you, I'm super sorry, and okay,

1030
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 3: thank you much. Press Like I don't think that's crazy.

1031
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 3: I think what happened is crazy and it makes you

1032
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: feel better. And if they're punch the tape, I agree,

1033
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: like make their apologies. And we never found the tape.

1034
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: It never turned up, Like my friends still mentioned.

1035
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: It to the day.

1036
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: It's been like ten years, like that was so weird.

1037
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I agree with you, and so, yeah, I

1038
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: do not have a logical explanation for the pape. I

1039
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 3: have no idea what happened to it. And my friend

1040
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: will vouch for the fact that that tape literally disappeared

1041
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: into thin air. But things stopped disappearing after I did that.

1042
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Paspoor wallet, whatever, all that stuff I would

1043
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: be holding on for dear life. These little elves trying

1044
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: to steal that shit.

1045
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 4: Oh I was.

1046
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 3: I was so paranoid for the rest of the trip.

1047
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1048
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: So I'm so fascinated by that side of the I

1049
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: don't know, supernatural or whatever, these small, little these little creatures,

1050
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: because they're all different kinds of cultures have versions of this,

1051
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: which you know, to me is always very validating that

1052
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: so many different cultures believe in this kind of a thing.

1053
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: But do you think it's like because I mean, they're magical,

1054
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: so so they could probably be like invisible or whatever.

1055
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, how do you how do you

1056
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: think how do you think these things work?

1057
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1058
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: That's a good question.

1059
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: Like in Iceland, they take it so seriously that like

1060
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 3: sometimes in their roads if there's a rock, because the

1061
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: Icelandic mythology is that the elves live inside rocks, and

1062
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: so they will not go through the rock. They won't

1063
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: just demolish it like you would in the US. They

1064
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: like will bend the highway to go around it, and

1065
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: that people will leave offerings, but like the same thing

1066
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 3: in Ireland was like my grandmother would we we would

1067
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: leave little offerings for the little people on Saint Patrick's Day,

1068
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: and then my parents would write like a message pretending

1069
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: they're the little people, and we're like, yeah, you guys

1070
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: wrote that. And then my parents, like to the day

1071
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: they died, they're like no, no, no, that wasn't us,

1072
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: I was the little people, like they were thank you

1073
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: for the offering. And so I don't know. I guess

1074
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 3: like I kind of do like the idea because it's

1075
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 3: like harmless, right. It's like, ultimately my dad looks pretty

1076
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: much fixed at that point, and it was almost like,

1077
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: I guess, like a kid yanking your pigtail, you know,

1078
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 3: and be like that's just you know, like what are

1079
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: you going to do about it? And just playing like

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00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: little jokes on you. But yeah, I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: guess I do like the idea of them living inside

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00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: the rocks and that they take it so seriously, like

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00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: we're not just going to destroy their habitat on the

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00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: very blim chance that they are real, because we don't

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Speaker 3: want to make them mad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just don't take your chances with it, Like why not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a great life to be one of

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00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: these little creatures because like what people just do whatever

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00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: you want. They'll give you an offerings, they give you gifts,

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00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: and then you're if they don't, you're allowed to just

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00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: steal their shit, like yeah, I want that.

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00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: Let's just snatch whatever you think looks good, like I

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00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: like this, look the color.

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Speaker 1: Come on now, Okay, So tell me the story about

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Speaker 1: your father.

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00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: Oh, my dad. Uh, I was very close to my dad.

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00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: My dad was like the ultimate girl dad. He was

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00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: air Force and so that that's part of the story.

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00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 3: It's important part of the story and I'm in stem.

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00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 3: I always had a very early interest in science, and

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00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 3: he was just like, you know, yeah, she's going to

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00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: go all the way. So he'd like send me stories

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Speaker 3: from like the Air Force times about like this woman

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00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 3: did something, you know in the Air Force, and I

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00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 3: thought you would like this. I'm like, oh, thanks, Dad.

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Speaker 3: So unfortunately, he passed in two's and very ill with cancer,

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00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 3: and you know it was expected, but I had taken

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00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: care of him the last like eighteen months of his

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00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 3: life with my mom, and uh, you know when he went,

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00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, it was sad, but like

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00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 3: we were prepared for it. So I got a new

1113
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: job like ten months after he died, and then I

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Speaker 3: moved back to Washington, DC for my new job. And

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00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: so I'm unpacking in my new place and I realized

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00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: that I can't find my car keys like anywhere, and

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00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: I have a fob for my car. And of course,

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00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: like I called Triple A and they're like, oh, your car,

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00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 3: if it was a year newer, we could replace for

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Speaker 3: you for like I don't know, like eighty bucks.

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Speaker 2: Or something like that.

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00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 4: But because you.

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Speaker 3: Missed the cutoff, you have to go through the dealership.

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00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 3: I call the dealership. The dealership's like five hundred dollars,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god. And of course, like

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00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 3: I just moved, and I'm sure like anybody who you

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00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: know has ever done like an interstate move understands like

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Speaker 3: you're pretty tight on money, you know, because like you've

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00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 3: paid a whole bunch of bills just to move. And

1130
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, five hundred dollars, got that so much money?

1131
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 3: I was like kicking myself for being so careless. And

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00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 3: I had been, you know, looking for the keys for

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00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 3: like at this point, can't find them anywhere. And while

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00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking for them, I had like a very bad

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00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: habit of losing the keys, like throughout my entire like

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00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: driving life, and my dad was always like, put them

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00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: in the same place every time, and you'll never lose

1138
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 3: them again. I'm like, okay, whatever that, And of course

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00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 3: I never followed that advice. And I'm like, oh god,

1140
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: you're probably laughing and like you can't believe, of course

1141
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 3: you lost your keys again.

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00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 4: What is it with this kid?

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00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 3: And as I'm doing this, I start finding like little

1144
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: souvenirs for my dad, like things that he had given me.

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00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 3: So like I find money from the Philippines from like

1146
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: the nineteen sixties because he was there, you know, he

1147
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 3: was you know, station near there at the time. And

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00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, and I found like a coaster for

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00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 3: the DFW, and I found like his Air Force wings

1150
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: and I'm like, Dad, God damn it, Like this is

1151
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: all well and good, but this is not helped me

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00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 3: find my keys, Like if you're going to try to

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00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: help me, like buy my keys for me, for God's sake,

1154
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: And you know, very annoyed at this point because it's

1155
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 3: like I'm going to have to pay five hundred dollars.

1156
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 3: I'm so mad at myself. My dog, who has been

1157
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: you know with saying, she goes over, stares in the

1158
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: corner where there is nothing there, there's nothing. She's just

1159
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: staring at the wall, but she's looking at something like

1160
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 3: very intently and very excitedly, and she's wagging her tail.

1161
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 3: And she as my dad was dying, my dog would

1162
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 3: go in and check on him and like boop them

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00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: and like comfort them. And so she like trosts out,

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00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 3: you know, ahead of me, plants yourself in front of

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00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: my couch, stares at it and is wagging her tail.

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00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: And I took turned to the dog and I said,

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 3: you know, to the dog, I'm like, my keys aren't

1168
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: in the couch. And then I pull out my hand

1169
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: and my keys are in my hand. The dog like

1170
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: literally was like, hey, your dad just told me this

1171
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: is where you left your keys, because I checked the

1172
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 3: couch like twice at this point, and I was fully

1173
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 3: expecting to reach an air and get like a handful

1174
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: of crumbs and maybe a dime. But nope, my keys

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00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: in my hand.

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Speaker 1: That's so cool.

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 3: So after that I now have them on a hook

1178
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: in the same place every time.

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Speaker 1: Well, this has been lovely and I so appreciate your

1180
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: your historical knowledge and everything. This is great. Oh, thank

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00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: you and thanks for being a listener. Thanks Ron, Thank

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00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: you so much to Meche Storm, Miguel and Margaret. As always,

1183
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Speaker 1: I would love to have you on a future Listener episode.

1184
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: So please email ghosted by Raz at gmail dot com

1185
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: and put in the subject line listener episode and then

1186
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: just give me some bullet points like one sentence, two sentences,

1187
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, just sort of like lived in a haunted house,

1188
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: ghost walked in front of me one time and disappeared

1189
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: like something, just real simple like that, and uh, hopefully

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00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 1: we can work something out you and me. I love

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00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't

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00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me, kay By.

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Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

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00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out

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00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, So email me

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Speaker 1: Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the hair raising Hannah

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