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Speaker 1: From the Berkshars to the sound from wherever you live

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Speaker 1: in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give

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Speaker 1: us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop

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Speaker 1: on major League Baseball. Now, here's Baseball Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: voter number seventy, Rob Parker.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host, Rob Parker, with a February edition of

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Speaker 3: Inside the Parker. Yes, pitchers and catchers, we'll be reporting

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Speaker 3: this spring training in a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: What a show we have for you. Today, we're gonna talk.

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Speaker 3: With a former major league outfielder, Jack Jones. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: about some things going on in Major League Baseball this

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Speaker 3: past all season. Also, we're gonna go in depth with

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Speaker 3: Ned Keletti, the former Los Angeles Dodger GM listener.

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Speaker 1: Here comes the big interviews. Listen and learn. So good.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's welcome into the podcast former major league outfielder

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Speaker 3: Jock Jones. Courtse who played for a number of major

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Speaker 3: league teams, broken with the Minnesota Twins in nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: Also played for the Cubs, the Tigers, and the Florida Marlins.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the podcast, my man, Jock, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Rob I'm doing fantastic man. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: And I got a chance to chop it up with

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Speaker 3: you in two thousand and eight in Detroit when you

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Speaker 2: No doubt you did.

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Speaker 4: I just told Dusty about that yesterday when I was

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Speaker 3: Yeap, oh yeah, that was that was good times. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's talk here, Jock. First, you're getting into the media landscape.

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Speaker 2: You have a new podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, former picture La Troy Hawkins real well as well.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about the podcast and what do you guys

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Speaker 3: are doing, because I know you talk about everything.

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Speaker 2: It's not just a baseball podcast, right.

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Speaker 4: So I pitched a La Troy right around the time

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Speaker 4: of was was intrigued by his story mainly because one

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Speaker 4: world stops. Literally, the world stopped for him, right, everyone's

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Speaker 4: pulling for and praying for him. And then all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, the funds in his foundation shot up to

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Speaker 4: ten million dollars, right wow, which is great. It's all

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Speaker 4: great and not complaining. People do what they want with

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Speaker 4: their money. But my point till Latroit was Latroit, we

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Speaker 4: as athletes get bad raps. As you know, if something

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Speaker 4: happens to us, it's world news, especially a lot of

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Speaker 4: negative things, right, and not enough things get pushed about

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Speaker 4: what guys like to do, or what where guy's parts are,

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Speaker 4: or who guys are as people. We're fixated on them running, throwing, hitting,

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Speaker 4: catching and doing things like that. And so I said, hey, man,

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Speaker 4: I want to I want to bring a podcast to

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Speaker 4: of being athletic. So that's where our podcast came to Fruition.

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Speaker 4: It was born and you know, fixed in with Jack

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Speaker 4: and Hawk. We've been having a great time with it.

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Speaker 3: And where can people get it and sign up? Is

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Speaker 3: it everywhere you could get podcasts?

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Speaker 4: Yes, people can subscribe to it where we're on a

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Speaker 4: Spotify and Apple or wherever you can get your podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's pretty awesome. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean and and you're right, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: And I say this, and you know this. You've been

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Speaker 3: Almost forty years and the hard thing that what people

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Speaker 3: don't understand is news is usually something that's unusual, different, right,

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Speaker 3: that that people flock to. Right, Jock, You've never read

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Speaker 3: a story that said every plane landed safely at La

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: Because that's the expected Exactly, there's a plane crash.

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Speaker 2: It's a story because that's right.

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Speaker 3: Had I once had this conversation with Rob dibblewhen I

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Speaker 3: And I said, Dibbs, you're so good, right, I know,

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Speaker 3: You're so good that we expect you to close the

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Speaker 3: to us what ha happened? Because the last twent of

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you get it done?

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Speaker 3: For sure, it comes off as negative, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like all these guys only come over here

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Speaker 2: But that's the reason why you're so good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean, it's it's a situation that's tough

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Speaker 3: it's a part of the business. But a couple of

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Speaker 3: let's go around the diamond. H Juan Soto was traded

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Speaker 3: from the Padres, your hometown San Diego, right for Padres.

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Speaker 2: He got traded there by the Nationals.

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Speaker 3: He was okay, I don't think he was the same

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty million dollars guaranteed now here he comes

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Speaker 3: going to be in the Bronx and the Yankees, not

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Speaker 3: But did he blow his opportunity of making a half

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Speaker 3: To when you saw that seven hundred million, just be

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And it's gonna keep going up. Man, It's

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Speaker 2: They told me baseball was dead.

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Speaker 4: No it's not. It's alive and kicking, man. And they

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Speaker 4: I don't think the owners want to stop. I don't

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Speaker 2: Ay All Star team, maybe All Star team.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it's gonna be interested to see in

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Speaker 2: The Texas Rangers.

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Speaker 3: I picked him before the season to win the division

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Speaker 2: They didn't lose a road game. I mean, you don't

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Speaker 4: That was crazy that the home teams didn't lose on

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Speaker 2: That just doesn't happen in baseball.

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Speaker 4: She was going to be the opposite man, and it was.

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Speaker 3: The last American league to repeat as champs or the

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Speaker 3: do not the seventy five seventy six Cincinnati read the

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Speaker 2: Can you believe that no national team has repeated the seventies?

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Speaker 4: if the Yankees and the Dodgers and the Raves and

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Speaker 4: putting it back into your team. God bless you. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, looks like.

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Speaker 2: They've thrown the talent.

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Speaker 3: Schurser older pictures. Right, they had one one hundred and

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Speaker 2: It all blew up in their face.

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Speaker 3: Now it looks like they've pulled back and and like

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Speaker 3: I've heard from met fans saying, this is the least

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Speaker 4: Hey man, sometimes Rob, it has a weird way of unfolding,

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Speaker 4: right with so much expectation, like you said with with

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Speaker 4: it started with when Diaz went down in the World

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Speaker 2: Man, they just never in the celebration. It wasn't even an.

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Speaker 2: There, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the Dodgers spent like one point one billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it show. Hey, yeah, I'm a Moto

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the Dodgers are the Evil Empire I'm

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Speaker 3: are they still the best team for sure? I mean,

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Speaker 3: we got I'm Amoto's got to make up. Uh you

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Speaker 3: know an adjustment coming to the United States.

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Speaker 2: We already know that show Hay is not pitching this year.

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Speaker 3: Will he be one he comes back from you know,

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Speaker 3: nobody was paying attention. Now you're in LA. I know

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Speaker 2: It's still the Braves?

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Speaker 4: Hey? On paper they're the best team, right, but they

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Speaker 3: No, it's hard to argue with that, but you do

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Speaker 2: All the stuff, stepping out on every pitch.

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Speaker 3: And also I want to announce that the Jack Jones

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Speaker 4: Thank you man, thank you for the invite.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you and we'll be in touch and talking

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Speaker 3: to you as the baseball season. Spring training is about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, coming up pretty soon. All right, my man, appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Rob, Thank you man.

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Speaker 1: When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto.

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Speaker 1: If I'm writing, I'm ripping. Let's bring in a writer

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Speaker 3: All right, now, let's welcome into the podcast, Ned COLLETTI man,

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Speaker 3: this guy's got forty years of Major League baseball, but

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Speaker 2: Ned, Welcome to the podcast. What's up buddy?

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Speaker 6: Hey Rob? Good to see you, Good to hear your voice.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, man, We got stuff to talk about. Do

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Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 3: When you see Yamamoto was the last one they signed

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Speaker 6: It was. I can't tell you. I was surprised.

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Speaker 5: I you know, I worked for Mark Walter for a

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Speaker 6: That, and I know how he thinks.

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Speaker 5: To a certain extent, I should say that he you

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Speaker 3: Now with the show Hay deal ned, obviously they did

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Speaker 5: any professional sport, in this country is going to have

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Speaker 5: to be collectively bargained, I believe so.

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Speaker 6: I think that it may.

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Speaker 5: Happen like that, But again, it's so far out of

443
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Speaker 5: the box. And I think it showed a lot of

444
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Speaker 5: people a lot about Rohi too, that his appetite for

445
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,479
Speaker 5: victory was so much that he was willing to defer

446
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Speaker 5: that amount of money to years eleven through twenty. I mean,

447
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 5: that's a while from now. And again, the Dodgers are very,

448
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 5: very bright. They know what they're doing, and I think

449
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Speaker 5: when you think about what they'll do with the sixty

450
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Speaker 5: eight million, you know they'll more than make that up

451
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Speaker 5: and how they manage it. So I think it's a

452
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Speaker 5: genius deal on all points. I think it allows the

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Speaker 5: Dodgers to add Yamamoto for one, and maybe some others

454
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Speaker 5: along the way. But I just thought it was a

455
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Speaker 5: genius deal, very unique and back in the day. Back

456
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Speaker 5: in the day, it would be tough to get an

457
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Speaker 5: agent to go for that and the player let alone

458
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 5: perhaps suggested, But I think it tells you how what

459
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 5: his appetite is for winning and how he he doesn't

460
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Speaker 5: want to stand in the way of this organization because

461
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Speaker 5: of what his salary is going to be from being

462
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Speaker 5: as good as it can be in adding players that

463
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Speaker 5: are at the at the highest level. So you know,

464
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Speaker 5: congrats to him because that was that was a great,

465
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Speaker 5: great decision on his part.

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Speaker 3: We did hear a baseball analyst say it was the

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Speaker 3: greatest signing by the Dodgers in its history, in the Dodgers' history,

468
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Speaker 3: and people stopped and said, as great as it was,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't Jackie Robinson. They've had two great right of

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Speaker 3: Mede like, it was a great signing, But Jackie Robinson's

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Speaker 3: signing by the Dodgers is the all time greatest.

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Speaker 5: I think that's that's one of the greatest signings in

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Speaker 5: the history of the world, let alone baseball. I guess

474
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Speaker 5: if you want to separate Brooklyn in Los Angeles, maybe

475
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Speaker 5: that's the way to get that one in there. But

476
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Speaker 5: Jackie Robinson's signing was historic in so many ways.

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Speaker 2: I don't change the country, right, change the world.

478
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Speaker 5: I was dear friends with the great Don Nukeomb.

479
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 6: I love Don nukemb and I.

480
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Speaker 5: Spent many years talking to him pregame, a little bit postgame,

481
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Speaker 5: and he was We would talk for an hour at

482
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Speaker 5: a time, sometimes longer depending on schedules, and we talked baseball,

483
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Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, but we also talked Jackie Robinson,

484
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Speaker 5: We talked Roy Campanella, we talked Doctor King because they

485
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 5: all knew each other and they all worked for the

486
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Speaker 5: good of unity and to give everybody an opportunity. So

487
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Speaker 5: many of my conversations with Nuke were wrapped around Jackie Robinson,

488
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Speaker 5: what he went through and also what he stood for,

489
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Speaker 5: and also Doctor King and Campy. So there'll be no

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Speaker 5: signing ever as big or as life changing, world changing

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Speaker 5: as signing Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: Our guest is Ned Colletti, former Dodgers GM of course

494
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Speaker 3: worked with the San Jose Sharks now Pepperdina University.

495
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: Uh but forty years in baseball and did.

496
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Speaker 3: Spectrum spectrum sports, spectrum tv LA for a long time.

497
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Speaker 3: Just stop doing that as analyti should watch you all

498
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Speaker 3: the time after the games or whatever.

499
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Speaker 2: But now the Dodgers got all this, all these great players.

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Speaker 3: The last two years have been disasters, over one hundred

501
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 3: wins where they ran through the you know, the regular

502
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Speaker 3: season and ran into a buzz song.

503
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Speaker 2: You said it earlier.

504
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Speaker 3: The Arizona Series was probably bad enough to lose to

505
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Speaker 3: the Padres two years ago, get swept, lose that series,

506
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: I should say, but the Arizona where they didn't even

507
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: lead like they were they were annihilated. How much pressure

508
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 3: is now on Dave Roberts. I don't think there's any excuses.

509
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: If you don't win, and you've just spent over a

510
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 3: billion dollars and you have pitching and you have an

511
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: unbelievable lineup, it's almost like you can't lose.

512
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Speaker 5: Well, you can always lose. You're gonna have to win

513
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 5: playoff games.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't lose it and keep your job. It's

515
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Speaker 2: probably what I've met. Well.

516
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Speaker 5: I really hope that doesn't happen because I have so

517
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Speaker 5: much respect for him and love my conversations with him

518
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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 6: You know, you can't predict the sport.

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00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 5: That's why people go to games, and you don't know

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Speaker 5: what's going to happen between now and October. People will

522
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Speaker 5: get hurt, people make other deals, don't We don't know necessarily.

523
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Speaker 5: Is there gonna be added pressure?

524
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think so. But this isn't a team.

525
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Speaker 5: That is like come out of nowhere, and so now

526
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Speaker 5: they're going to be an environment that is new to them.

527
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 5: They've been this way since, going back to my time there.

528
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Speaker 5: So this is who the Dodgers are. They expect their

529
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Speaker 5: expectations are always at this level, and Arizona down for

530
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 5: a while, came back, expectations different, San Diego different. With

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers and their players and their staff, they've lived

532
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 5: with this rout for well over a decade, so this

533
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 5: is really nothing new, and if anything, it may sharpen

534
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: their preparation a little bit, sharpen their presentation a little bit,

535
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 5: but I think the bandwidth and the knowledge inside the organization,

536
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 5: including in the dugout, is as good as it gets.

537
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 6: And one other.

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Speaker 5: Little editorial comment, I guess you know, when a manager

539
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 5: gets let go because players don't perform, I always have

540
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 5: to examine that because for me, if a man, if

541
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Speaker 5: the players have continued to play hard for the manager

542
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 5: and for the team, for the city and for the

543
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 5: organization and all that, and for their team mates, that's

544
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Speaker 5: not on the manager. Players stop being fundamentally sound, players

545
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 5: start to walk to positions and start to take it

546
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 5: easy and things like that. Okay, that's on the staff

547
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 5: in my mind, but it's not on the staff. If

548
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 5: everybody plays hard and everybody's doing all they can and

549
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 5: something just happens. You can't control some things that happen.

550
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 5: But you know, the manager is the one that always

551
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 5: always sits in the in the focus of these types

552
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Speaker 5: of conversations. I never thought it was really a fair evaluation.

553
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 5: If teams play hard for the manager, that's that to

554
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Speaker 5: me is one of the great qualifiers to take and leaving.

555
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: I agree with that, But we do give managers credit

556
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Speaker 3: like they like, this is the one pushback.

557
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: I'll have with that. Well, he not the guy who

558
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: made an error.

559
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: Well, he didn't strike out in the bottom of the

560
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: ninth But when the guy hits the Grand Slam home

561
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: run in the bottom of the night and and the

562
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: picture strikes out the side in the ninth inning, the manager,

563
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: they win, he gets credit, He gets the new contract things.

564
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 6: See, gets a little bit of credit.

565
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: Well, he gets credit. All I'm saying is, can't have

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Speaker 2: it both ways.

567
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Speaker 3: Like when the players don't perform, it's all, well, they

568
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: didn't perform, and when they perform while.

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Speaker 2: The manager's pushing all the right buttons. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like there's gotten to be some sort of gauge for manager, whether.

571
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Speaker 6: Or not right, no doubt.

572
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 5: But you know, like, well you just said it to

573
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Speaker 5: pushing the right buttons.

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Speaker 6: It's not that easy.

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00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 4: I know.

576
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Speaker 6: It's I'll give you one more thought, more thought on this.

577
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 5: And it's it's an interesting I think it's an interesting

578
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 5: way of looking at things. It's always okay, let's fire

579
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 5: the head coach, let's fire the manager, let's fire the

580
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Speaker 5: person in.

581
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 6: Charge of the people in the uniform.

582
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 5: Well that's the first half. The second half is you

583
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 5: better have somebody far better than that person that's sitting

584
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 5: at youir next, not an equal, and not somebody that

585
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 5: that doesn't have the experience of doing it, because you'll

586
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 5: be the next one leaving if that's how it goes.

587
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: So there's always two parts to this equation.

588
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Speaker 6: In my mind.

589
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 5: Okay, you run your course with a head coach or manager.

590
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 5: Before you decide that somebody else is gonna sit there,

591
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: you better know know that the next person sitting there

592
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 5: is gonna be outstanding at what they do.

593
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: And you know this being in the NHL, they fire

594
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: coaches like they changed socks like that.

595
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: It is unbelievable in the NHL, Like I just can't.

596
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: Get over how often coaches are changed like more so

597
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: than any other sport I've ever seen.

598
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: Last thing. I'm gonna let you go, net, I appreciate

599
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: your insight.

600
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: When Clayton Kershaw is healthy, is there a spot for

601
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: him on the Dodgers or not.

602
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 5: I think there'll be a spot for Clayton Kershaw for

603
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 5: as long as he wants to pitch and he's healthy.

604
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 5: I think his desire is most likely to stay with

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Speaker 5: the organizations. One of the few players in this in

606
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 5: the last maybe fifteen to twenty years that could say

607
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 5: he started with one team and finished with that team

608
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 5: and there was no interruption to it. I'd have to

609
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 5: think he's excited by the moves as everybody else is.

610
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 5: And again, as we get into the season and it's

611
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: it's not even it's you know, February in the beginning,

612
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 5: We've still got two months before we get into the

613
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 5: first you know, the first six months of a season.

614
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 5: A lot is going to happen between now and then.

615
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 5: Having him fresh, if it's after the All Star break

616
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 5: and healthy, I think.

617
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 6: Is a great addition.

618
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Speaker 5: I think it'd be tougher to trade for somebody providing

619
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 5: he's healthy and providing all those things. It'd be tough

620
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 5: to trade for somebody at that point in time, and

621
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: everybody gets banged up as the year goes on, and

622
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: especially you're pitching. They get tired, they get worn down.

623
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 5: You're going to add him fresh and ready to go

624
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 5: with six weeks to play or eight weeks to play.

625
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 5: I think I think that that just fits right with

626
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 5: how they think and most likely what he's gonna attempt

627
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: to do. I think it'd be a great addition. You

628
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 5: won't find many players you'll trade for if he's ready

629
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 5: to go, better than Clayton Kerbershaw.

630
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: Last question, just to yes or no answer. The Los

631
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: Angeles Dodgers are now officially the Evil Empire?

632
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 6: Yes or no? Ned, I'd say it, of course, okay,

633
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 6: and that's it.

634
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

635
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: Proudly didn't they they more proudly as the Evil Empire.

636
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: I think the Dodgers are the Evil Empire.

637
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 6: Yes, and I think they're happy being.

638
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: It, no doubt. All right, Ned, Kaletti's our guest.

639
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 5: Ned.

640
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, my man. I appreciate your time and

641
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: we'll talk down the road, buddies.

642
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 6: Stay well, thank you, appreciate you.

643
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: In the words of New York team legend, the Lady.

644
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time until

645
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: next time.

646
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: Rob Parker out d can't Davin? This could be an

647
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: inside of Parker.

648
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: See you next week, same bat time, same bat station,