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Speaker 3: Things you thought you'd never see for one hundred Alex Yeah,

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Speaker 3: welcome in an hour two of the program Jason Smith

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Speaker 3: Show with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith, He'll be

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Speaker 3: back on Wednesday. In instead Today, it's our buddy Lineman.

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Speaker 3: He's leading us through the B gap to greatness. It's

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Speaker 3: Rich Hornberger. What's going on.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it. We're rocking and rolling.

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Speaker 5: How about a quick visit from Jason Locking for absolutely

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Speaker 5: Flumbang the Dallas Cowboys in hour one, a collection.

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Speaker 4: Of indie visuals.

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Speaker 5: It's just the perfect summation of what it's been for

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Speaker 5: Dallas fans for years and years and years, just the

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Speaker 5: Des Bryan years with you know, Romo and then Dak

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Speaker 5: and then even the Zeke years with CD towards the

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Speaker 5: end there, and oh, it's just I mean, it's it's

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Speaker 5: just been a comedy of errors throughout the years in Dallas,

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Speaker 5: and they haven't been right since Aikman and Irving and

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Speaker 5: Smith left well.

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Speaker 6: As soon as Jimmy Johnson was.

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Speaker 3: Extricated from the situation or extricated himself, depending on whose

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Speaker 3: story you believe, or was it a mutual parting of

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Speaker 3: the way, because whenever you hear the mutual breakup, you

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Speaker 3: don't believe it all right, which side called it right?

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Speaker 6: Which side? You know the made the call. But ever

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Speaker 6: since then.

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Speaker 3: Right you were able to go through the last bits,

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Speaker 3: you won another super Bowl. Fantastic. Jerry got to pat

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Speaker 3: himself on the back. The problem is that made him

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Speaker 3: believe that he was absolutely right in what he was doing.

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Speaker 3: And then year after year, my ex's father told me

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Speaker 3: many years ago, residing in the Dallas area, we're never

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Speaker 3: winning again so long as he's here. Either sell the

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Speaker 3: team or you know, going to the inevitable end of

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Speaker 3: things some years later. Either way, it's a great pr

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Speaker 3: run for us every year here at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate the Dallas Cowboys and the Clown Show that

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Speaker 3: they can be from time to time. But once again,

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Speaker 3: we're in that usual dance with a superstar that eventually

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Speaker 3: he's going to get his money. It's just how long

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Speaker 3: can you draw it out to keep the audiences with you.

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Speaker 3: It's like the Hey, we have one more episode before

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Speaker 3: the season finale. Okay, cool, we'll tie it up there

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Speaker 3: and Michael will get his money. Okay, and now we'll

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Speaker 3: be ready for football. But another guy who's on the

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Speaker 3: comeback trail in a reinvention. I believe one of the

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Speaker 3: Kardashians had the Revenge Bod brand rolling.

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Speaker 6: For a while.

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Speaker 3: That's Luka Dancts of your Los Angeles Lakers now on

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Speaker 3: the cover of Men's Health.

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Speaker 6: Things that I would have thought I'd only see.

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Speaker 3: At a carnival a year ago, right, one of those

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Speaker 6: Here I am the man of the Year for Time Magazine.

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Speaker 6: Here I am.

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Speaker 3: The muscle and fitness superstar. After years of Arnold Schwarzeneger

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Speaker 3: year after Michael Finley. So famously emasculated the man in

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Speaker 3: Here he is lifting weights, doing the dead lift. The

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Speaker 6: As he takes over La.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's like a beer bun.

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Speaker 6: It's like actually done.

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Speaker 5: You know, Guy Fieri on the cover of Bonappetite magazine.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, that's no shade of Guy Field.

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Speaker 6: Can you and I meet in Vegas and go to

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Speaker 5: No, insane is a correct adjective. Flavor town, USA, no

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Speaker 4: And that's the reality.

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Speaker 5: And I think actually one of the best things for

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Speaker 5: And then pair that with being teammates with Lebron James,

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Speaker 4: Get him to take his body as part of his sport.

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Speaker 3: More more seriously, I like you getting the word fastidious

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Speaker 6: But for Luka Dongets. It's that point. You know.

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Speaker 3: We were talking a couple of weeks ago Scottie Scheffler, right,

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Speaker 3: Shut up as you're pondering, you know something beyond golf,

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Speaker 3: like he's great at it and clearly puts the work in.

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Speaker 3: But you're always looking for something more. No matter what

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Speaker 3: Be a little funnier, be a little smarter in sharp

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Speaker 3: using words like fastidious for Luka Daunchets. You're now at

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Speaker 3: Not that Dallas hasn't had its moments in the past,

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Speaker 3: glitz and glamour of Hollywood. You've got a guy Lebron, however,

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Speaker 3: he's your teammate. The expectations get ratcheted up immensely. Not

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Speaker 3: to mention again, no matter how many times I'll hear

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Speaker 6: Lean and mean for the cameras these days.

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Speaker 3: But it's those kind of things people saying they don't

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Speaker 3: It's like no folks in our business claiming they're not fans.

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Speaker 4: I think he knows that a leak.

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Speaker 5: Conditioning is the final step between being a superstar.

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Speaker 4: He's at the precipice.

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Speaker 4: And I think, I think he again, I.

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Speaker 5: Think this trade as sour and dour the mood may

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Speaker 3: Well, everybody wants to win the breakup Rich, there's no

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Quote my sleeping, my body, my everything. I felt more restored. Right,

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Speaker 3: I'm going along his journey, and certainly you speak to it,

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Speaker 3: and I'll speak for my colleague off in Detroit, mister Smith. Right,

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Speaker 5: in their pockets while their owner goes on i'm sure

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Speaker 5: lavish vacations and laughs his whole way to the bank

439
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Speaker 5: and spends pennies on his.

440
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Speaker 4: Payroll because there's profit sharing.

441
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Speaker 5: So he brings home a two hundred million dollar check

442
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Speaker 5: and I mean, I haven't looked, but I'm guessing he's

443
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Speaker 5: not even spending eighty million dollars on his payroll. It's

444
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Speaker 5: just it's despicable, it's mind games, it's a lie. If

445
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Speaker 5: you believe that that salary cap is going to make

446
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 5: for a more competitive sport, you've you've been poisoned. You

447
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 5: can't convince me that that's the path. You know what

448
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 5: would help make these these this league more competitive. Richer owners.

449
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 5: Why aren't we talking about that? How about we kick

450
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 5: out the owners who won't spend? How about that? How

451
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 5: about we get rid of the Colorado the Fisher family

452
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Speaker 5: in Colorado, and we get an owner will actually spend

453
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Speaker 5: the money that is shared with him through their profit

454
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Speaker 5: sharing program. Why doesn't that ever get discussed? Well, it's

455
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 5: because the owners are controlling the narrative. Right now, I

456
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 5: just don't see it. I just don't see it.

457
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Speaker 6: Yeah, as we look at it, here's the disparity.

458
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Speaker 3: The Dodgers and Nets up in that three thirty three

459
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Speaker 3: forty range down to the Yankees in two ninety five

460
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Speaker 3: is going off spot treck. So we'll take it all

461
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Speaker 3: with a grain of salt, rounding errors, of course. Miami

462
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: sixty eight million, the Athletics seventy seven million, White Sox seventy.

463
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Speaker 6: Eight, Pittsburgh in eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: Hey, they're much higher than I thought at ninety Colorado

465
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: actually comes in twenty first at least over one hundred

466
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 3: million at one twenty three. But that's still a two hundred,

467
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: you know, twenty million dollar gap between what the Dodgers

468
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Speaker 3: are spending and what they are. And then you talk

469
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Speaker 3: about the national revenue deals, and yes, you have the

470
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Speaker 3: competitive balance, you know, the luxury tax kind of situation

471
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 3: that's in there, and you pay into it, and certainly

472
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Speaker 3: the deferred payments is a whole other structure. Very few

473
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Speaker 3: guys are going to agree to such a deal and

474
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Speaker 3: will make you that kind of money, like the show

475
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Speaker 3: Heyo Tani deal. I have to believe in my heart

476
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Speaker 3: of hearts, with a little bit of proper investment, that

477
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: they've already made his salary for the decade right as

478
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Speaker 3: as you go through put that NASCAR in a way

479
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Speaker 3: it goes. But all of that to say, you know,

480
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: you're just in this unique space in Major League Baseball.

481
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: And Steph Curry, because we could tie the other one

482
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Speaker 3: of the other stories circulating, he had a lot of

483
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Speaker 3: things to say in an interview he did, and one

484
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Speaker 3: of them was we're probably underpaid. Talking about trying to

485
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Speaker 3: get player equity right, the long thing of hey, can

486
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Speaker 3: I get a piece of ownership now? The thing people

487
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Speaker 3: laughed at when Caleb Williams's dad allegedly asked for that

488
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 3: of the Bears last year. I'm like, why wouldn't you ask?

489
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: If the rules are against it, fine, show me the clause.

490
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: If it's just generally unaccepted, okay, then let's talk about it.

491
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Speaker 3: Like the language that the Bengals just put into Shamar

492
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Speaker 3: Stewart's contract. Everybody complains like, why would you have to

493
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Speaker 3: do that? It's like, I don't know. It seemed kind

494
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Speaker 3: of logical from a pragmatic standpoint of if the guy's

495
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Speaker 3: unavailable to me, then yeah, I shouldn't have to pay

496
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Speaker 3: him those guarantees.

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Speaker 6: Why don't we have that in there?

498
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Speaker 3: And Shamar Stewart took an extra five hundred thousand dollars

499
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Speaker 3: of his bonus early and left that in his contract

500
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: when it was all said and done. But if you

501
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Speaker 3: don't ask, it's like anything if I want an extra

502
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: piece of cake for dessert as a kid, my mom may.

503
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Speaker 6: Laugh at me, may shame me. I don't know.

504
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 3: But if I don't know, if I don't ask, same

505
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 3: right here, right, and it becomes the same argument of

506
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Speaker 3: deferred payments or equity or whatever, or maybe the rules

507
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: don't work right. I mean, we had all sorts of

508
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: laws that, after looking at them in hindsight or changing society,

509
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Speaker 3: get reworked and rewritten.

510
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Speaker 5: Profit sharing amongst owners was supposed to be less about

511
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 5: splitting profits, so to speak, and more about redistributing local

512
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 5: revenue sharing. You know, so like if you're the Yankees

513
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: and you make a killing in local revenue marketing advertising

514
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 5: things like that, or the Boston Red Sox, the Chicago Cubs,

515
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 5: they crush it in that in that standpoint, like that

516
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 5: local revenue that that that is shared, And what it's

517
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 5: supposed to do is to to stabilize week league wide

518
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 5: finances so that you're not going to have you know,

519
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 5: some of the richest owners being in the biggest markets

520
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 5: and having owners unable to spend in smaller markets. But

521
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 5: what it's turned into is owners in Miami and Oakland

522
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 5: and Colorado and Tampa sitting on their pocketbook or wearing

523
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 5: boxing gloves to the table so they can't fit their

524
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 5: fists in their pocket to pull out the wallet, to

525
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 5: open up the wallet to pay their players, and that

526
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: profit sharing has led to or that revenue share has

527
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 5: led to owners getting cheaper with the payment of players

528
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 5: as opposed to becoming more competitive and creating a more

529
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 5: compelling product. That's my big problem with Major League Baseball

530
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 5: is they created a problem with profit sharing that they're

531
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Speaker 5: trying to fix by limiting what a player can make.

532
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 4: Look in any field, whether.

533
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Speaker 5: You're a plumber or you're a lawyer, whether you're a

534
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 5: tradesman or you're a white collar office worker, if you're

535
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 5: the best and you're ambitious enough and like you said, Mike,

536
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 5: brave enough to stick your neck out and ask the

537
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 5: right questions at the right time. Hey, can I have

538
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 5: a bigger slice of cake? Well why do you think

539
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 5: you deserve a bigger slice of cake? Well, look at

540
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 5: my performance. And if you don't believe I deserve a

541
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 5: bigger slice of cake, well maybe I'll go to the

542
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 5: next table over and I'll see if they'll give me

543
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 5: a bigger slice of cake.

544
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, don't go to the next table.

545
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: We understand what you're talking about. You stay at this table.

546
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 4: We'll see what we can do with the slice of cake.

547
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 5: Well, that's how you get paid more imagine if you

548
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 5: went to the table and you said, hey, can I

549
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 5: have a bigger slice of cake? And they went no,

550
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: Well why not, Well because you're capped, you've had your

551
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 5: bigger Well I'm the best.

552
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you're the best, you're capped. Well,

553
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: I mean I'm the bad that.

554
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Speaker 3: Happened once, yeah, years ago, Like, yeah, you're in this division.

555
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: This is how you qualify, Like, and we need to

556
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: reevaluate what my position is now.

557
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 6: Don't we. And I went into the media and stopped

558
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 6: doing that job.

559
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: So and and that's and that's the thing, like when

560
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 5: when all of a sudden you run into those those ceilings,

561
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 5: you you get busy trying to find a different path.

562
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 5: And and I look, I mean, do I think it's

563
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 5: going to lead to do I think it's going to

564
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 5: lead to ruin for baseball? Like if they changed to

565
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 5: a salary cap to day and and they continued playing baseball,

566
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 5: I don't think that it would ruin baseball.

567
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: But here's the problem.

568
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 5: Trying to get a salary cap is going to, I

569
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: promise you lead to a protracted labor disagreement that's going

570
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 5: to lead to.

571
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: No baseball for a while.

572
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 5: And that my friend could ruin baseball, and they may

573
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 5: ruined it for a long time.

574
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Speaker 3: Well, we talked about the passing of Ryan Sandberg earlier.

575
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: We'll circle back to that at age of sixty five.

576
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: But he was one of the guys in that magical

577
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: eighty four run that the Cubs had to play the

578
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: padres uh and in the playoffs, was coming out of

579
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: that eighty one strike labor dispute and trying to reimagine things.

580
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: And we talk about nineteen ninety eight, We talk about

581
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 3: all of these different instances, whether it was the home

582
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: run chase or what cal Ripken Junior was doing. You know,

583
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: the guy that was the blue collar guy showing up

584
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: for work every day. Right, You find those heroes along

585
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: the way. But certainly, you know, you've got many teams

586
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: that just say we're gonna be on the dole more

587
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 3: or less and never put another dime back on the

588
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: field if we can help it. So we'll keep watching

589
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: that next iteration, But I think, yeah, labor dispute here

590
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 3: is certainly in the offing. Hey, let's start it over

591
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: to the news desk now with a legend man who

592
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: strides confidently through the studio to.

593
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Speaker 6: Deliver brilliance each and every time. It's Steve de Seger.

594
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Speaker 7: I'm just here hello, and the Mets have won seven

595
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Speaker 7: in a row.

596
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 6: There's no leading with the Mets. He's not here, damn it.

597
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: They won seven in a row.

598
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 6: It's the longest wis in baseball.

599
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: He can't hear it. He can't hurt you anymore, Steven.

600
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: I just gave him all that love, and then he

601
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: gives me a Smith update.

602
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 7: Proving for the thousandth time, we just deal with facts

603
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 7: here at the news desk, leading with the Nets, who've

604
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 7: won seven in a row, and took the lead with

605
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Speaker 7: a grand slam by Mark Fiano's at San Diego. The

606
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 7: Mets lead now five to three over the Padres in

607
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Speaker 7: the bottom of the fifth inning. The Red Sox took

608
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Speaker 7: the lead for to three at Minnesota top of the ninth,

609
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Speaker 7: but before they go to the bottom of the ninth,

610
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Speaker 7: a rain to lay still and they're still holding out

611
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 7: hope to finish up that game in Minnesota. Tonight, top

612
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 7: of the ninth inning at Cleveland, Guardians up five to

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Speaker 7: four over the Rockies. Angels lead the Rangers six to three.

614
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Speaker 7: In the top of the seventh Pirates at Giants tied

615
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 7: four to four bottom of the sixth, and the Mariners

616
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 7: are shutting out the A's three nothing in the bottom

617
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 7: of the sixth. Brewers and Cubs were tied for first

618
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Speaker 7: in the NL Central. Milwaukee at home beat the Cubs

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Speaker 7: tonight eight four. The Cubs gave team president Jed Hoy,

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Speaker 7: You're an extension today. Milwaukee tonight formally acquired backup catcher

621
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Speaker 7: Danny Jansen from Tampa Bay baseball's trade deadline as Thursday,

622
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 7: Hall of Famer Ryan Sandberg from the Cubs died at

623
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Speaker 7: the age of sixty five. The second baseman won nine

624
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 7: straight Gold Gloves through nineteen ninety one. Washington was a

625
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 7: two to one winner at Houston. That's five straight losses

626
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 7: for the Astros. The Nationals offense went four for thirty

627
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 7: one at the plate with nineteen strikeouts and still won

628
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 7: the game Houston with just four hits. The White Sox

629
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 7: beat Philadelphia six to two, the loss to Christopher Sanchez,

630
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 7: who had been nine and two who wins for Atlanta

631
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 7: and Saint Louis. Tampa Bay ended a four game losing

632
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 7: streak with a victory in New York over the Yankees

633
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 7: four to two. The Dodgers held on five to two

634
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 7: at Cincinnati. The Reds, who had won four in a row,

635
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 7: left bases loaded. In the ninth shoey Otani with a

636
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 7: two run double. Detroit beat Arizona five to one. The

637
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 7: Dbacks au Heennio Suarez left as he was hit by

638
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 7: a pitch on the hand. He said X rays word negative.

639
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 7: Baltimore beat Toronto eleven to Dallas. Cowboys tackle Tyler Geiden

640
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 7: reportedly will miss four to six weeks after an injury

641
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 7: at practice.

642
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 6: He did not tear his acl though.

643
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 7: The Colts gave tackle Bernard Ryman a four year extension.

644
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 7: We're sixty million dollars guaranteed. The Broncos gave wide receiver

645
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 7: Courtland Sutton a four year extension. The Titans waved wide

646
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 7: receiver Traylon Burks. He just broke his collar bone over

647
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 7: the weekend while making a diving catch. Return man Corderyl

648
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 7: Patterson says he's been cut by the Steelers. Tampa Bay

649
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 7: reworked the contract of quarterback Baker Mayfield. He now has

650
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 7: thirty million dollars guaranteed for next year. The Rams QB

651
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford is week to week with his bad back.

652
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 7: He did not return to practice today, and in the WNBA,

653
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 7: New York star Brianna Stewart was out tonight after the

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Speaker 7: weekend leg injury. At Dallas, the Wings beat the New

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Speaker 7: Connecticut one to one eighty five, and La Sparks star

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Speaker 7: Cameron Brink will finally play on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: She's missed over a year after a torn ACL back.

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Speaker 3: dot edu. Coming up next. We talked about it earlier

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Speaker 3: and Rich had the little side swipe of that team

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Speaker 3: that moved from San Diego. What about the other one?

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Speaker 3: Should they be in panic mode based on a bachiotomy

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Speaker 3: that needs to happen. Yeah, we'll do that next, Rich Ornberger.

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Speaker 3: And for Jason Smith on Mike Harmon, be.

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Speaker 2: Sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 2: with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Load Management in the NFL, as we get ready here

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Speaker 3: for another scintillating conversation Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 3: with Me, Mike Carmon, No, Jason Smith, it's Rich Ornbergerstead

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Speaker 3: that is right at Ornberger is where you find him,

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Speaker 3: Ohrn br g Er. For those new to the program,

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Speaker 3: you hear him san Diego in the mornings. A lot

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Speaker 3: of creative chaos. Is that the kind way to say it?

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Speaker 3: The right way to term it?

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Speaker 4: I would I would say that is the perfect way

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Speaker 4: to phrase it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go. Feel free to use that in

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Speaker 6: the marketing and advertisement.

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Speaker 5: We are occasionally light on sports, but we are all

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Speaker 5: stocked up on crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's good, and you're the ringleader, no question about it.

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Speaker 3: You hear him also Saturday mornings here Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 3: as part of the Countdown crew and joins us as

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Speaker 3: he does from time to time. We're able to get

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Speaker 3: him into the big chair. He'll be with me again

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Speaker 3: tomorrow and night as we continue some of these conversations.

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Speaker 6: But we talked about we could talk about the.

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Speaker 3: Chargers in earnest a little later on in the show

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Speaker 3: or maybe tomorrow, but as we get ready for the

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game and huge expectations for Harball year two, here, Rich,

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Speaker 3: But for the Rams side of things, talk load management

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Speaker 3: and trying to figure out how you navigate a season

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Speaker 3: with Matthew Stafford Sean McVay talking about his back injury

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Speaker 3: and ailments and stiffness and all that, and how he

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Speaker 3: may have been wrong in the way he termed it

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Speaker 3: earlier as they reported to camp now calling it a

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Speaker 3: week to week situation.

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Speaker 6: I find it.

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Speaker 3: Good theater because you bring in Devonte Adams and ship

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Speaker 3: out Cooper Cup so now you got Pukinnakua and DeVante Adams. Well,

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Speaker 3: DeVante Adams. The most lasting memory of his last stop

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Speaker 3: was jumping up and down, screaming and cursing all stuff

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Speaker 3: we can't.

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Speaker 6: Play on the air because if you bleep it, you.

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Speaker 3: Lose all the content being thrown to from Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 3: and talking about the hits he was taking and the

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Speaker 3: chances he was taking running his routes well as if

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Speaker 3: Stafford's sideline number two right now is that very same

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 6: So it makes for an interesting conversation. Should Stafford's injuries.

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Speaker 5: Keeping off the field, Yeah, it's gonna be h It's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a pretty stunning season to see some of

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Speaker 5: these different pairings quarterbacks, receivers wise, but I'm I'm particularly

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Speaker 5: interested in LA I would say from more from the

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Speaker 5: standpoint as the empire crumbles a little bit, and it's

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Speaker 5: one that was built up extremely quickly.

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Speaker 4: In Los Angeles.

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Speaker 5: We went from the less sneed f them picks days

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Speaker 5: to kind of slim pickings after Aaron Donald retired. Although

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Speaker 5: they're still finding away, I think the key is and

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Speaker 5: it will be the key, you know, moving through the

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Speaker 5: preseason into games that actually matter, is Stafford's health. I

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Speaker 5: don't think it's deniable, even as good of a quarterback

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Speaker 5: whisper as I do believe Sean McVay is the Rams.

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Speaker 5: Their only hope is is Matthew Stafford. I really feel

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Speaker 5: strongly about that. Unless there's a rabbit yet to be

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Speaker 5: pulled out of a sleeve that I'm unaware of, I.

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Speaker 4: Think that's the ticket to ride.

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Speaker 5: So I was bullish on the Rams this preseason until

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Speaker 5: you know, some of these early injury concerns. But I

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Speaker 5: don't want to say injury because I don't even know

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Speaker 5: if that's what we want to characterize.

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Speaker 4: It as yet. But it's not good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's ease in whatever term you want to use,

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Speaker 3: he's not on the field and they're using not on

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Speaker 3: the wheel to describe it.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: So while it's good Bright, the other guys getting reps

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Speaker 3: and we talked about it with the Cleveland situation of

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Speaker 3: at least you try to get some reps with, you know,

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Speaker 3: for Shadh or Sanders, whatever meaning you ascribed to them.

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Speaker 3: It's better than him throwing you an equipment guy or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The fourth ouction was like they were talking about last

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Speaker 3: week with all of those guys. But when we look

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Speaker 3: at the odds for the division, forty nine Ers are

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Speaker 3: are back as the top squad as it stands with

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Speaker 3: expectations of a return to health. The Rams second about

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Speaker 3: two to one Cardinals, and third they're the team I'm

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Speaker 3: most curious about. When you talk about the retooled defense

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Speaker 3: and such, and then Seattle, Sam Darnold comes in new

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Speaker 3: staff and you know, around him to try to push

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Speaker 3: this thing forward and a change out at the wide

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Speaker 3: receiver position. But it is curious with Matthew Stafford. Right,

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Speaker 3: the endgame last year kind of covered up the early struggles.

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Speaker 3: And I know the wide receivers were hurt, but they

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Speaker 3: were riding the defense and Kyron Williams for a good

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Speaker 3: chunk of that run. And now we look at even

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Speaker 3: the second half, it wasn't like they were a prolific offense.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was twenty eight, which is fine and respectable,

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Speaker 3: but far from world beating. A lot of that was

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Speaker 3: Jared Vers and that young defense coming through. We'll see

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Speaker 3: if they can repeat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with every thing he just said. I

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Speaker 5: think there there are some treacherous teams around this division.

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Speaker 5: I think the Cardinals are there. It's yet to be

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Speaker 5: seen if their trajectory is finished or if the growth

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Speaker 5: potential continues into next season with a healthier Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm the.

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Speaker 5: San Francisco forty nine ers looked strangely mortal maybe is

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Speaker 5: the right way to characterize it. Last year because Brock

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Speaker 5: Purdy had hiccups for the first time in his career.

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Speaker 5: They had so many injuries at so many key positions,

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Speaker 5: including the defense. I mean that was a mass unit defensively.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's put a bit in