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Speaker 1: Sable Advice. Welcome to the Naughty Man Night Show. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Rob Shooter. It's Friday, which means our friend

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Speaker 1: Corey Andrew joins us. Corey from Instinct Magazine dot com. Corey,

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Speaker 1: are you there? Of course, I'm here with bells on.

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Speaker 1: I do love your musicality. So as well as being

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Speaker 1: a fabulous writer reporter, Corey is a recording artist too.

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Speaker 1: That's why every Friday we're lucky enough to have you

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Speaker 1: sing along with all our jingles. Please sing along at home.

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Speaker 1: My first one is coming up. All right, now, what

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Speaker 1: time is it, my friends? It is tea time. I

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Speaker 1: can't help myself. It's so fair fulous, so fair fulous. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We've got this massive story at the top of the

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Speaker 1: show that won't go away about Sharon Osborne, Gail King,

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Speaker 1: Piers Morgan. So now Piers Morgan is ripping Gail King

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Speaker 1: for being Harry, Prince Harry and Megan Markles pr mouthpiece.

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Speaker 1: More so, Piers is slamming Gail, who once again is

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Speaker 1: on her morning show revealing more details about Prince Harry

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Speaker 1: and Megan. Personally, I love all the details, Gail. If

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Speaker 1: you're listening, Hello, Hello, Hello, don't stop. I love all

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Speaker 1: this gossipy gossipy stuff, although it should be pointed out

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Speaker 1: they are friends. She went to the wedding, she went

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Speaker 1: to the baby shower, So it does feel like she's

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Speaker 1: been a little bit more of a good friend than

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Speaker 1: an objective journalist. That CBS Morning Show, it's quite a

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Speaker 1: fancy show. They don't really do gossip. I once met

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Speaker 1: Gail at a party and I was like, Gail, I'm

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Speaker 1: on all these shows doing gossip. When am I coming

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Speaker 1: favor because it's not the top rated show. So it's

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Speaker 1: the Today Show, which is number one and May does

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Speaker 1: really well too that they go back and forth of

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Speaker 1: who is number Once I said again, well come on

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Speaker 1: the CBS Early Show, like I was doing a favor.

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Speaker 1: Gale was like, no, thank you. We don't do gossip.

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Speaker 1: But I got it. I respected her for it. She said,

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Speaker 1: I don't like gossip. I don't write celebrity gossip. I

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Speaker 1: a real newsperson. Well apparently not when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Harry and Megan. She's a gossip goose like the rest

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Speaker 1: of us. Piers wrote the following, Hi, Gayale, King, rather

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Speaker 1: than acting as your Six Friends pr mouthpiece to facilitate

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Speaker 1: their ongoing public trashing of our royal family, how about

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Speaker 1: you do your job as a journalist and asked them

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Speaker 1: about all the lies they told in the Operah interview.

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Speaker 1: Oh good. Gale has not responded, not responded yet. But

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Speaker 1: what Peters Is pointed out is there was lots of

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Speaker 1: inaccuracies in the interview, some little, tiny ones, some big ones.

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Speaker 1: I mean, do we readly believe she didn't google him

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Speaker 1: or knew who Prince Harry was? But there's lots and

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Speaker 1: lots of these little details. So he stormed off his

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Speaker 1: show last week after he trashed the couple. Here we've

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Speaker 1: got Gail not storming off but actually giving us more

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Speaker 1: Corey Well, I think it's kind of hypocritical for him

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Speaker 1: to accuse Gail of being friends with Megan, because Pierce's

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Speaker 1: whole position and protecting the real family is he feels

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Speaker 1: position is the exact same as hers. He's protecting his friends.

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Speaker 1: So I think he needs to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: think about that? Well, he loves a fice. He loves

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about him, He and Pius if you're listening.

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Speaker 1: He loves me and center of attention. He's a provocateur.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I so he bugs me, but I also

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Speaker 1: like the show business of him. He's sort of like

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Speaker 1: the Diddy or the Paris Hilton of journalists, Like he's

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Speaker 1: not really a journalist, he's a columnist. But it is

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Speaker 1: a tricky game, and this is the little secret about

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Speaker 1: what we do. Corey. You will agree, you've got to

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Speaker 1: play the game to get access to the stars. So

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Speaker 1: when you want to interview a big celebrity for Instinct

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Speaker 1: magazine or your podcast, you can't really ask him everything

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Speaker 1: That's why I think I show is so successful, Corey,

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Speaker 1: because all we do his gossip. We don't pretend to

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Speaker 1: have any Taty. It's terrible listening. So this brings us

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Speaker 1: to our pole. The question of the day. Ps Morgan

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Speaker 1: he right? Yes? Or no? Hey? Go vote on that

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Speaker 1: Twitter page. Naughty nice Rob or f a smoke page

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Speaker 1: which is naughty gossip. You can leave a comment there, hey,

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Speaker 1: and be sure to check back on Monday to hear

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Speaker 1: your results. While are you working on Corey Yes well,

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Speaker 1: Luendola Sepps casting a New Housewives spin off of the

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Speaker 1: Room Housewife's franchise. Of course, Page six is reporting now

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Speaker 1: the show essentially ship's Housewives from various cities after a

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Speaker 1: tropical island areak havoc, and we're told it's set to

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Speaker 1: begin shooting in April in the gorgeous Turks and Cagos,

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Speaker 1: which is a lovely, lovely place. Now the show will

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Speaker 1: feature about eight ten of the women. It will shoot

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Speaker 1: over the course of a week, and all the cast

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Speaker 1: members will be living in one house. My gosh, that

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Speaker 1: sounds like a nightmare. But the housewives, including Melissa Gorga

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Speaker 1: Atlanta version, and of course Kyle Richards and also being

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Speaker 1: considered for the cast. That sounds like gold. For Andy Cohen,

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Speaker 1: it does sound like jackpot, though I have to have

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Speaker 1: to say, what do you think about? It is a

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Speaker 1: Everybody's been on for a decade now. I used to

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Speaker 1: watch it every episode. I could tell you every franchise,

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Speaker 1: what each lady was doing. I went off in a bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite as into it as I used to be,

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Speaker 1: but I think this could freshen it all up for

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Speaker 1: me because I like the thought of cross pollinating the cities.

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Speaker 1: it sounds like really fun, even if they weren't on

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Speaker 1: all a little bit snobby about which franchise is the best,

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Speaker 1: and they quite territorial. One night, I was out having

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Speaker 1: dinner with Bethanie Francole and Ninie Leaks and had an

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Speaker 1: that's not stopping Sharon from talking about everywhere else. I

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Speaker 1: And now Sharon's in this mess. A little bit more

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Speaker 1: a racist sympathizer, as they have accused him of being.

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Speaker 1: is a very very controversial, Parson. What's going on with

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Speaker 1: Army Hammer. This is very serious, very serious story here. So,

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