Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of How Men Think. And my
Speaker 1: name is Brooks Like and I just want to say
Speaker 1: last week's episode, the sex episode, was one of our
Speaker 1: hottest debated episodes we've ever had. And our producer Amy
Speaker 1: is looking at me smiling and laughing already. Well, I
Speaker 1: just like that. People had opinions and we got so
Speaker 1: many questions. I think we're gonna have to do Sex
Speaker 1: Education Part three. I think today's part two, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna to bring it back again in January. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do part two today, but we've been just bombarded with
Speaker 1: questions from you guys. Uh men at I Heart radio
Speaker 1: dot com is where you can send us her questions.
Speaker 1: And Amy is fired up because she received almost some
Speaker 1: hate mail. I hate when you guys hate on Amy
Speaker 1: because I love Amy and she's honest and she's opinionated,
Speaker 1: she's vulnerable, and you guys don't understand how hard that
Speaker 1: is to be in this community and on this platform.
Speaker 1: And I give her credence for that. I can take
Speaker 1: it because I think we got thirty emails that said
Speaker 1: mouth stuff. That's That's also one of the reasons I
Speaker 1: keep coming back is just to hear you say mouth
Speaker 1: stuff and watch you laugh every time I say it.
Speaker 1: I can't say the words, but I'm working off. I
Speaker 1: know it's so funny. Okay, So, uh, last week's episode
Speaker 1: was sex episode. We answered your guys questions and the
Speaker 1: and the biggest polarizing topic that we had was is
Speaker 1: porn cheating. Yeah, people really have opinions. People are really
Speaker 1: opinionated about that with their emails and their comments on
Speaker 1: social media. And read this one and then we can
Speaker 1: debate it. Okay, So here's one from an anonymous listener.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where to even begin. First off, if
Speaker 1: you are okay with your significant other going to another
Speaker 1: person for hand or mouth stuff, then you're not secure
Speaker 1: enough in your relationship. It almost sounds like Amy is
Speaker 1: just saying that to sound cool. I'm still young and
Speaker 1: I've been married for over a year and would have
Speaker 1: never been okay for my husband to go see someone else.
Speaker 1: That just opens up the door for an open relationship.
Speaker 1: And know, when you're significant other is watching porn, they
Speaker 1: aren't thinking of you. If they were, they wouldn't just
Speaker 1: try that, just go to you. Wouldn't they just go
Speaker 1: to you in the first place. Some of the comments
Speaker 1: just sounded naive. I would love to hear another woman's
Speaker 1: comments who is in a serious relationship, So I have
Speaker 1: a few comments. Okay, First, everybody should email us or
Speaker 1: go on the Instagram and send us their comments. I
Speaker 1: did not say I was okay with other people doing
Speaker 1: mouth stuff. Just to clarify, what I said was I
Speaker 1: was okay with porn. If a dude wants to watch porn,
Speaker 1: I don't care. And two I will admit I did
Speaker 1: say if they went to like a full body massage,
Speaker 1: I also didn't care. It was Dmitri, who isn't in
Speaker 1: here yet, who said his friend had a girlfriend that
Speaker 1: said it was okay to go to other people for
Speaker 1: mouth stuff. That was not me. But you didn't, didn't you.
Speaker 1: So in the full body massage you would say hand stuff, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: it just feels like as one of a massage. It's
Speaker 1: on the outside of your body. It felt okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So hand stuff when you pay for it, you're saying,
Speaker 1: is okay. Oh I like that you put the coveat
Speaker 1: of paying for it if you're not a lady of
Speaker 1: the evening but a massus massage therapist. But what if
Speaker 1: what if it's hand stuff that the person is not
Speaker 1: paying for that feels weird. It's their own Okay, So
Speaker 1: here's what I thought of. Here's why I do not
Speaker 1: think porn is cheating. Okay, but I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: Like I'm very open to like hearing everybody's opinion because
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Although I did ask the guy
Speaker 1: probably isn't thinking about you when they're watching porn. Probably
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'll pretend Game of Thrones. I've never
Speaker 1: watched it, but I heard it's very like sexy sexy. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm fine if you watch that, So why do I
Speaker 1: care if you're watching porn. It's just like a little
Speaker 1: bit more. Um, well, it's probably a lot more. I've
Speaker 1: never watched Game of Thrones. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: like more shows like that, but there's a lot of
Speaker 1: TV shows where it pushes it, and I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: So that's where I came to on that. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how much Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: shows because I haven't watched it. I saw one scene
Speaker 1: where some woman gave birth to like some dragons that
Speaker 1: flew out of the room, but my wife was watching
Speaker 1: and I walked in I'm like, no, I can't watch that,
Speaker 1: and then there's just there's so much has like let
Speaker 1: me think of I mean thirty Shades of Gray, but
Speaker 1: that's like for girls. I'm trying to think of like
Speaker 1: a movie that pushes it. I can't think of one
Speaker 1: emails them. But I'm okay with that. So I'm okay
Speaker 1: with porn. I'm okay with is definitely going to show
Speaker 1: you visually more. I'm still standing strong on I'm okay
Speaker 1: with it, but I would like to if I'm convinced
Speaker 1: the other way I will be. I'll read every email
Speaker 1: and be open to it. As of today, I am
Speaker 1: totally fine if anyone wants to watch porn with me
Speaker 1: without me thinking of me, not thinking of me, I don't.
Speaker 1: I really don't care. By the way, that's completely okay.
Speaker 1: We're gonna people are going to disagree. There's going to
Speaker 1: be in our people in our community that agree with you,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be people that disagree with it.
Speaker 1: Was like the olden days they could read Playboy I
Speaker 1: don't care, or read a book that's like saying you
Speaker 1: can't read like an erotic novel. I don't care, but
Speaker 1: I think okay, I get that part. I understand that part,
Speaker 1: and I think our community probably does. But it's when
Speaker 1: it comes to the paying for hand stuff. The full
Speaker 1: body massage is very controversial, very controversial. People just have
Speaker 1: to email us and give us all the sides. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that is to our listeners paying with If your
Speaker 1: significant other went to a massage place and paid for
Speaker 1: a massage and ended up getting, as Amy would say,
Speaker 1: hands stuff at the end of that massage, is that
Speaker 1: cheating or is that not cheating? Great, it's a good question.
Speaker 1: That's the questions of the community. So you can email
Speaker 1: us at men that I Heart radio dot com or
Speaker 1: find us on social How many think podcasts keep all
Speaker 1: the other questions coming because they are so amazing and
Speaker 1: people are like they have trouble with the words to
Speaker 1: the oh everyone emails and they just write the oh,
Speaker 1: you know what. I actually really enjoy these conversations because
Speaker 1: these are all things that people are thinking, all like
Speaker 1: this sex episode we just did and the one we're
Speaker 1: going to get into today. The questions, more questions from
Speaker 1: the listeners. These are real and truthful in people's relationships,
Speaker 1: and so I want to dive into these. These are
Speaker 1: things we go through I go through in my relationship,
Speaker 1: and so we're trying to like set the weapons down
Speaker 1: here and have an open conversation about topics that usually
Speaker 1: are not discussed. So the doctor back and she is
Speaker 1: amazing and she exceptional. Yeah. I can't wait to have
Speaker 1: her in here again. Yeah, okay, you ready for sex
Speaker 1: episode number two? Here we go. This is How Men Think?
Speaker 1: With growthsl and Gavin to grop and I heard radio
Speaker 1: Podcas asked, welcome to another episode of How Men Think.
Speaker 1: My name is Brooks like joined again with co hosts.
Speaker 1: You guys were so amazing last week co host Dmitri
Speaker 1: and Rick. What up in with us again? I mean
Speaker 1: to be invited back a second week As the title
Speaker 1: of co hosts, I know three whole host to co host,
Speaker 1: don't you have a host? I think you and I
Speaker 1: together are one. We have to This is really this
Speaker 1: is really how men think. Right here, we're missing Gavin,
Speaker 1: we are missing Ryan, Ryan's dealing. Your voice changes every
Speaker 1: time we're missing Gavin. We're missing Ryan texted me that
Speaker 1: now he is projectile vomiting, has been vomiting for twelve
Speaker 1: his carpets wreck. But you guys were such stellar co host.
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you back again, and I'm so
Speaker 1: proud of you for stepping up to it. And gentlemen,
Speaker 1: well you said you texted us and said more sex
Speaker 1: this weekend question, and now we were like, we're talking.
Speaker 1: Now now I'm realizing all we get as a co
Speaker 1: host and but no, your co host sheriff Badges are
Speaker 1: on their way, so we'll get you those. But also
Speaker 1: on today's so we're gonna get into more sex on
Speaker 1: today's episode. Is gonna be a follow up to last
Speaker 1: week's episode, which was juicy um. And then also at
Speaker 1: the end of today's episode, we have two very special guests,
Speaker 1: three very special guests. And then also at the end
Speaker 1: of this episode, we have three very special, distinguished guests
Speaker 1: with a extremely exciting new announcement. We can to talk
Speaker 1: about sex. That was one of them. She whispered in
Speaker 1: whispering about sex. She just and that's the cliffhanger. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to listen to the whole show and come
Speaker 1: back at the end to find out who does. But
Speaker 1: super exciting announcement coming from some very fun people. At
Speaker 1: the end of the show, m Dr Viviana is here.
Speaker 1: I just want to acknowledge you like I'm learning so much.
Speaker 1: And and because I want for everybody to feel sexually
Speaker 1: expressed and satisfied in their life that you are helping people.
Speaker 1: You keep saying, understand and talk about things and communicate things. Um,
Speaker 1: I want everybody to feel that way in their life
Speaker 1: and not to feel like they're missing out on anything.
Speaker 1: So it's so interesting because people ask me what it
Speaker 1: is that kind of got me into doing the work
Speaker 1: that I do with couples and individuals. I want people
Speaker 1: to have options. I Ultimately, I don't want anyone to
Speaker 1: feel stuck, because life is too short for that, especially
Speaker 1: when you're trying to do it alongside someone else or
Speaker 1: more than one person. Well, and isn't life too short
Speaker 1: to not be exploring sexuality as Brooks refers to it.
Speaker 1: And what's great about it is that there's so much
Speaker 1: play area that isn't go to go into something that
Speaker 1: is maybe kinky or doesn't work with your spiritual beliefs
Speaker 1: or doesn't work with your relational beliefs. There's so much
Speaker 1: fun that we can have the problem is it's funny
Speaker 1: because you said it earlier. I say sexuality because sexuality
Speaker 1: to me, and it should be for all of us,
Speaker 1: not intercourse. It is not just intercourse. When people only
Speaker 1: talk about sexuality in terms of intercourse, I kind of
Speaker 1: feel bad for them because you're missing out on just
Speaker 1: the playfulness, sexist play. I just think they're uneducated. Like
Speaker 1: you said, you need to stay. If you want sex Friday,
Speaker 1: you need to start with Monday. And I just think that,
Speaker 1: like and living in your own sexuality, there's actually enjoyment
Speaker 1: there versus just receiving enjoyment in sex. And there are
Speaker 1: so many couples, long term, happy couples who may not
Speaker 1: be having sexual intercourse frequently, but they sure do have
Speaker 1: sexuality frequently, annual sex, having annual or mouth step. So
Speaker 1: um Brooks tease this up after the break, We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about circumcision. Oh what I'm supposed to tease?
Speaker 1: You could just leave it at that. Dr Viviana is
Speaker 1: in studio with us. Dr Viviana coles in from Houston,
Speaker 1: and she's just been making it rain here with just
Speaker 1: amazing advice. Totally asked me paranoid over the fact that
Speaker 1: I texted my body, But I'm okay with it. I'm
Speaker 1: embracing its expert The internet is not it's okay. The
Speaker 1: internet is not forever. It's like the internet is like snapchat.
Speaker 1: He deleted it. He told me he deleted it. Then
Speaker 1: he must have ye, no question about that. So um.
Speaker 1: The next topic that we want to get into, we'd
Speaker 1: like to get your opinion on Dr Viviana is circumcision.
Speaker 1: So what do women think about guys who are versus
Speaker 1: guys who aren't. Obviously this is controversial, um, and it
Speaker 1: has been for centuries, um, possibly even longer. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: This is what I'll tell you about circumcision. We have
Speaker 1: to be okay with the fact that it's for vanity
Speaker 1: only because our bodies were made a certain way and
Speaker 1: you're taking something away, something that someone brought up earlier.
Speaker 1: Actually one of my cousins, he's smarty and he's a
Speaker 1: thoughtful person. He said, why do we see it any
Speaker 1: differently than female circumcision? And that blew my mind because
Speaker 1: we are all pretty I'm going to go ahead and
Speaker 1: look at all of you and say you're on the
Speaker 1: same page. Female circumcision is not okay, So why do
Speaker 1: we do this? Really, it's when they remove part of
Speaker 1: the clatorus. So what mutilation? Right? Well, they call it mutilation,
Speaker 1: But how is it different than removing the foreskin from
Speaker 1: the relating the penis. People do see it that way,
Speaker 1: so we have to either be okay that it's for
Speaker 1: esthetic purposes only because studies show scientifically that there is
Speaker 1: no strong correlation one way or the other with health issues.
Speaker 1: The Internet when I did research, says it's to prevent
Speaker 1: certain U t I s and men or this might
Speaker 1: have been in days of YR but and HPV and
Speaker 1: a couple other sort of disease preventions. So that is
Speaker 1: what is causing people to feel justified in doing so.
Speaker 1: Is that crap? It's it's crap because there's so many
Speaker 1: other reasons. You can you can teach our children, you
Speaker 1: can teach our boys and teach women how to handle
Speaker 1: uncircumcised penises and the cleanliness and the hygiene all of that. Um.
Speaker 1: That is, it's not that it doesn't happen, but that
Speaker 1: is not going to prevent those things. Got it so again?
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I have a little boy and
Speaker 1: I have a husband, and it was purely an aesthetic
Speaker 1: socio cultural thing in my culture, um meaning American because
Speaker 1: my Latino's I'm a first generation American Latinos don't tend
Speaker 1: to circumcise, right. I read that. It even said in America,
Speaker 1: and I married a seventh eighth generation Texans. So I
Speaker 1: left that up to him because that's what I would
Speaker 1: have wanted if I was, you know, having to make
Speaker 1: a decision like that. But we had to come to
Speaker 1: terms with the idea that this is for aesthetics. We
Speaker 1: are changing and altering our son's body for possibly attracting
Speaker 1: a woman in the future. So or any of you
Speaker 1: willing to reveal what you are, I'm not circumcised. I am,
Speaker 1: this is I am. Will you tell us more? Rick,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about the why, Well, my dad's
Speaker 1: not or you know my family and uh why, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think I know why, but I mean my
Speaker 1: what I did with my son was because we want
Speaker 1: to be the same. There wasn't any sort of it's vanity.
Speaker 1: So based on what Dr Vivian is saying about Vanity,
Speaker 1: Brooks and I have better looking penises than you, not
Speaker 1: at all. And then once I peel it back, and
Speaker 1: the truth is he has heightened sexual pleasure that the
Speaker 1: two of you will never have understood. So we found
Speaker 1: someone who was circumcised and as an as an adult,
Speaker 1: I don't know why and said uncircumcised was color TV
Speaker 1: circumcised black and white. That is the difference because you, okay,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm for that guy. He is his feeling was
Speaker 1: way better before. Okay. So it's just like women with
Speaker 1: the clatorial hood. When you become aroused, the clatorius swells
Speaker 1: up and the clatorial hood retracts a little bit, right,
Speaker 1: same thing when a man is erect. So all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, something that doesn't typically touch anything like underwear, pants,
Speaker 1: whatever is exposed, and so it's more sensitive. It just
Speaker 1: makes sense, like when you're driving in a convertible and
Speaker 1: you just peeled that top back and you're like, you're rick,
Speaker 1: did you ever have any like when you're in a
Speaker 1: locker room, any like insecurities about it? Or were you
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable with it? Like you played water polo, so
Speaker 1: people obviously were like around, I mean, you're showering or whatever.
Speaker 1: I didn't really, to be honest, I didn't really think
Speaker 1: about it. I mean I noticed it um, and I
Speaker 1: don't think I was very I didn't feel insecure about anything.
Speaker 1: It wasn't ntil like actually college when I noticed that
Speaker 1: somebody else, like everybody had was circumcised, so you know,
Speaker 1: but I didn't think in depth about it until college
Speaker 1: and everybody and then there were a couple of guys
Speaker 1: that were not circumcised, and I was like, it was
Speaker 1: kind of more like, oh yeah, yeah, like we have
Speaker 1: something in common. But it wasn't like a huge thing
Speaker 1: that really wasn't down And was it a discussion between
Speaker 1: you and your wife about your son or was it,
Speaker 1: like Dr Viviana said, it was really your decision like
Speaker 1: she did with her husband. We had a discussion, but
Speaker 1: it was we knew what the answer was. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: I've seen both and I like both. But that isn't
Speaker 1: typical because guys, remember, I don't know how much poorn
Speaker 1: y'all are seeing that have that have uncircumcised men in it.
Speaker 1: We just don't have a lot of visual representations, even
Speaker 1: though the vast majority of the world is maybe there's
Speaker 1: a category for it. There could be. I'm sure there's somewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So this is the thing for women. If you typically
Speaker 1: ask women, they will they will go with whatever feels
Speaker 1: less complicated, So they'll say that they prefer a circumcised man.
Speaker 1: But again, how is that complicated or less complicated because
Speaker 1: it's what they know. Because because they don't it's a
Speaker 1: visual thing. They think, okay, well what do I have
Speaker 1: to do with that or what They're just not used
Speaker 1: to it, and it's I mean, it's ridiculous, how difficult.
Speaker 1: They don't have to do anything right. I mean, my
Speaker 1: experience was when I experienced it, it was these words
Speaker 1: are so challenging for me. Aroused, it looked exactly the
Speaker 1: same as the one. The other one i'd seen, so turtleneck,
Speaker 1: it didn't. Everybody said that, but it just looked exactly
Speaker 1: the same. It's it's just like with volver variety. There
Speaker 1: are there's foreskin, and there's it all can look different.
Speaker 1: So some can be can hang past the tip, some
Speaker 1: can would never hang past some it almost seems like
Speaker 1: they're circumcised. Well, yes, I have different The person sent
Speaker 1: a picture and so I have a picture of one
Speaker 1: that is and one that isn't, and they look identical, identical,
Speaker 1: And that's not always the case, I mean not exactly.
Speaker 1: You can pick out of a lineup, I could pick
Speaker 1: each of them out. But a lot of it has
Speaker 1: to do with confidence and knowing your own body. If
Speaker 1: you can teach your partner very quickly how to do things.
Speaker 1: If it needs to be even addressed, then that's it.
Speaker 1: You don't know, it's a question, but it's more of
Speaker 1: a I have a friend that they had a baby
Speaker 1: boy and he was uncircumcised. The father and the wife
Speaker 1: was very I think she's Catholic or whatever and very
Speaker 1: religious and very one where you know, that's the way
Speaker 1: she wanted it, and so but she wanted to be circumcised,
Speaker 1: and they went and got the boy circumcised, and I
Speaker 1: just felt like that was like the biggest knock on,
Speaker 1: like the dad of like you know, and it's I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, why did he care? Why was
Speaker 1: it um? I think chances are he did care. I
Speaker 1: think he cares. But I think that ultimately she probably
Speaker 1: just came up with the with the discussion and the
Speaker 1: argument that hey, I, as a woman, if I don't
Speaker 1: find it appealing or as attractive, we don't want our
Speaker 1: son to go through that, which is a bond. It's
Speaker 1: a little weird. It feels a little like make and
Speaker 1: your daughter get a boob job. Yes, it feels a
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable. Toolutely agree, but again, this is why we
Speaker 1: have to just come to terms of the fact that
Speaker 1: you're altering somebody's body and that we should probably leave
Speaker 1: it alone. I know a set of brothers where the
Speaker 1: older brother is and then the younger brother isn't. So
Speaker 1: maybe the mom kind of freaked out, like why did
Speaker 1: I do this? And then did not do it to
Speaker 1: the younger son. Are the parents married? It's the doctor
Speaker 1: won't let you. The doctor warned you, um, when they
Speaker 1: do it, because Brooks just said, maybe the older son
Speaker 1: screamed when it happened and she was traumatized when they
Speaker 1: when the doctor does it, he warns you. He's like,
Speaker 1: because I went in there because my son was young. Um,
Speaker 1: obviously he's a baby, and so I wanted to be
Speaker 1: in there. And he's like, just so you're prepared. A
Speaker 1: lot of dad's faint. So so Ryan he's not here
Speaker 1: because he just had a baby. The doctor asked him,
Speaker 1: would you like to watch? And he said, no, I
Speaker 1: believe And he said how many dads watch? And it
Speaker 1: was like five. So that's how terrified the dads are
Speaker 1: that they're doing this thing to the kid. Well, and fortunately,
Speaker 1: because I did a lot of research on it, um,
Speaker 1: fortunately there they do use topical anesthetics. They actually even
Speaker 1: put an injection for anesthesia. But no matter what, it's
Speaker 1: our producer Danielle knows someone who did it when they
Speaker 1: were four and they remember it. Yes, so they will
Speaker 1: say psychologically that adult circumcision is much more traumatic, both
Speaker 1: psychologically and physically. So actually in a two different stories.
Speaker 1: So I'm also Latin as well, so I like you said,
Speaker 1: it totally makes sense now. So, um, one of my cousins, um,
Speaker 1: he didn't get circumcised until he was twelve, and it
Speaker 1: was yeah, and he was like, that was the most
Speaker 1: traumatic thing ever. So when he went to go do
Speaker 1: it with his son, he did it pretty early on
Speaker 1: at two months old. And when he did it at
Speaker 1: two months old, his son like a really severe reaction
Speaker 1: and the blood wouldn't stop gushing out. So literally his
Speaker 1: two months two month old baby was like pale in
Speaker 1: the face. How to rush him to the er and
Speaker 1: this whole the baby had to get a blood transfusion whatever.
Speaker 1: So literally he has had the most traumatic experience when
Speaker 1: it comes to that kind of stuff. And just because
Speaker 1: it's typically routine or it's common, doesn't mean that it
Speaker 1: has to be right. It doesn't really that we have
Speaker 1: to continue to do this again. You just have to
Speaker 1: be mindful of your reasoning. It can't. It's like some
Speaker 1: people choose to do the piercing for a little girl's
Speaker 1: years when they're weeks old, and then others wait, as
Speaker 1: it's a rite of passage. You literally lit up with
Speaker 1: that funny. It's great. Okay, so let's move on from that.
Speaker 1: So while we're on that topic, we're sort of the
Speaker 1: penis of the penis. Yeah, we're on that topic. Um,
Speaker 1: let's talk about we have some points you're in some
Speaker 1: questions from listeners. Penis size, Oh, the elephant in the
Speaker 1: room or not an elephant? It doesn't matter, It doesn't
Speaker 1: does it need to be an el It could be
Speaker 1: it could be all worry about that yours is big
Speaker 1: or small? Or what do do you do? Men worry
Speaker 1: about it for sure, of course, really, but do you
Speaker 1: worry about it once you're in a long term, committed
Speaker 1: relationship or do you worry about it when you're dating?
Speaker 1: But what are you worried about with the girl? Are
Speaker 1: you worried about it like comparing it to another dude,
Speaker 1: like where someone leans over there, like ricks is huge
Speaker 1: or they're like, I don't think I would really worry
Speaker 1: about it in a relationship with a girl. I think
Speaker 1: it's more of like when you're in the locker room
Speaker 1: or showering. I guess you know, like yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure in the locker room, you're in like I
Speaker 1: was in the locker room with twenty three dudes my
Speaker 1: whole life, Like for sure, you're like looking differences, you
Speaker 1: rank that all of them were pretty different or they
Speaker 1: all sort of is it sort of a small window
Speaker 1: of normal, and then there might be a one dude
Speaker 1: he's super small, and I was one guy, but you've
Speaker 1: got the biggest. I would say that most guys are
Speaker 1: sort of in. From my experience, most guys that there's
Speaker 1: a cluster of like they would fall into this general
Speaker 1: group or size or whatever, and then there's like an outlier.
Speaker 1: The outlier is usually like bigger, likelier, bigger. I've only
Speaker 1: ever played with one guy that was like an outlier
Speaker 1: smaller like payed with two guys. I played with two
Speaker 1: guys that I can now think of that we're outliers,
Speaker 1: small and sure for them it was an issue. It
Speaker 1: was the same. And then I do remember one being
Speaker 1: abnormally small, and then even the big one was just
Speaker 1: sort of in that still realm of same but maybe
Speaker 1: just like a hint more swollen. So circumstance, and I
Speaker 1: haven't seen or touched that many. I know, it seems
Speaker 1: like I have, but it's very low numbers. I just
Speaker 1: met you, and I totally think, you know, I've only
Speaker 1: slept with six people. Maybe seven soon, but that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that number. I feel great about that number. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is the thing. Does anybody even know what
Speaker 1: the averages? Three inches? Three three inches blasted as we're
Speaker 1: talking about it, and someone got their cell phone out
Speaker 1: and was like, it's about this laying the averages typically
Speaker 1: around five and a quarter that when it's you know what,
Speaker 1: when it's erect. Now that said girth makes a huge
Speaker 1: difference in sensation, Okay, because I have actually had a
Speaker 1: council couples through how to even begin to have penetrative sex,
Speaker 1: because I would not like that like a fireplug, or
Speaker 1: it can be or it can be too long, and
Speaker 1: it can hurt our cervix. So there is such a
Speaker 1: thing as too long. And all of you men who
Speaker 1: keep talking about how big is better and oh I
Speaker 1: wish women are not feeling that that is not what
Speaker 1: they want. They do not want, Well, it is and
Speaker 1: it's everything. That's the thing. Guys tend to boil down
Speaker 1: their worth to their penis and there's so much more
Speaker 1: to sex. Here's what I think guys like, and I'm
Speaker 1: totally fine with this. They like to act like it's
Speaker 1: big and have you go, it's big, even if it's
Speaker 1: not like that's in my sexting. I'm like the big
Speaker 1: you know whatever, even if it's just fine an average
Speaker 1: am I right, Well, that's really I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: this because this is the show in my sexting, Like
Speaker 1: one guy I'm not and I only have sex it
Speaker 1: with like four people, like I need to I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: but he said something, Okay, you guys, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say it because people need to hear this and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to be open and I need you guys to
Speaker 1: be open. They said, I'm okay, it's so dirty, so
Speaker 1: I apologize in advance. But they said, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: it in you, but it might hurt you, and it's like,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna hurt I liked it, though I was
Speaker 1: like you're psychologically kinky for totally reality, Like it's totally normal. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is the thing about I think this is
Speaker 1: the thing about that if you feed into that, sure
Speaker 1: did and if and if the truth is that he's
Speaker 1: not that big, that's sort of he's just totally normal,
Speaker 1: but maybe he's average. But overall you don't want to
Speaker 1: feed into it, like, yes, it does hurt, yes, because
Speaker 1: then if he gets off and you're not into that,
Speaker 1: then we got issues. I think that was just for
Speaker 1: the texting. Let me, she's only done five times. Let
Speaker 1: me ask the ladies in the room. Does does size
Speaker 1: to a woman make a difference? Bigger is worse? And
Speaker 1: it does it make a difference for a long term partner? Bigger,
Speaker 1: like is worse? Above can be worse than someone who's
Speaker 1: slightly below average, for sure. I think that's what women
Speaker 1: say all the time. That's what people in my office
Speaker 1: say all the time. The concern is, um if it's
Speaker 1: too small. Now there's it's clinically called a micro fallus,
Speaker 1: and that can be something that unfortunately there isn't a
Speaker 1: really good surgery out there to help that. How common
Speaker 1: is that it's not very common? Like the name doesn't
Speaker 1: help itself. Micro Well, it's literally like this and they
Speaker 1: have to release sendence through surgery. That might extend it
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it doesn't really help. But fortunately
Speaker 1: there's lots of sex toys that help with that. There's
Speaker 1: the documentary I think I mentioned before called Unhung Hero.
Speaker 1: Is that true? It's true. There's a documentary called Unhung Hero.
Speaker 1: It's about this guy who proposes to his girlfriend on
Speaker 1: like the JumboTron at a basketball game. He gets left,
Speaker 1: He gets ghosted, like right there, gets left hanging. She
Speaker 1: just walks away, Yes, she just freaks and like walks away.
Speaker 1: And then later on she the reason she gives him
Speaker 1: that she didn't get in there like except his engagement
Speaker 1: is that he didn't have a big enough penis. And
Speaker 1: then he goes on a world journey firing out like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the irony of a guy with a small penis proposing
Speaker 1: on a jumbo try And then he goes on like
Speaker 1: a world journey trying to explore and solve the problem
Speaker 1: for men that have smaller I don't know. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: he goes they don't show it, but yeah, he goes
Speaker 1: to like a condom facility too. He goes to all
Speaker 1: these different cont he didn't need all It's like the
Speaker 1: guy of the condom. He's like, yeah, you would really
Speaker 1: be smaller than average. Um. And then he explores different
Speaker 1: sizes amongst different countries. Which countries are are on average
Speaker 1: the smallest, Which countries are on average the biggest. I
Speaker 1: believe like South Korea or something was one of the smallest,
Speaker 1: and I think like Nigeria or something like that. Some
Speaker 1: reason I felt Austria. Austrians. Don't quote me on that exactly.
Speaker 1: It's been it's probably been five years since I've seen
Speaker 1: the movie. Don't quote me on that exactly. But it's
Speaker 1: it's very educational as well as like very real for man.
Speaker 1: Like this is he goes to he's in this like
Speaker 1: back alley surgery room in Philippines about to try this
Speaker 1: like crazy injection. And this is truthful, Like he's there
Speaker 1: in the moment about to do it. He's sweating and
Speaker 1: he freaks out. He's like, oh my god, I can't
Speaker 1: do this. Like it's a man's journey dealing with this.
Speaker 1: It's called unhung here. But again, it goes back to
Speaker 1: this idea of if he felt like there were options
Speaker 1: more more actually if his would be fiance felt like
Speaker 1: there were more options and you can find satisfaction through
Speaker 1: things other than pain and penetrative sex like that. That
Speaker 1: kind of opened them up to a life of like
Speaker 1: what if she had together, they could have been together
Speaker 1: by the Sorry, just hug him and say let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about it later. Don't ghost them on the jumbo try.
Speaker 1: But while we're on the topic, could we quickly talk
Speaker 1: about men's thoughts on breast augmentation? Do you is bigger better? No,
Speaker 1: there's there's too big for sure? I think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: look at it like I think. I think in general,
Speaker 1: a person should be able to jog, just truthful, like
Speaker 1: like a person should be able to work out. Okay,
Speaker 1: well yeah, exactly, like you're doing push ups in your
Speaker 1: arms are barely reading. But can you imagine can you
Speaker 1: imagine not being able to jog because of something you
Speaker 1: have augmented to your body? Like what if jogging isn't
Speaker 1: your thing? What if you know? And and then so
Speaker 1: is there little? Is there such a thing as too little?
Speaker 1: I think so too? Yeah, I mean I think what
Speaker 1: that I mean, here's the real answer is what that
Speaker 1: person is comfortable with is from so go ahead by Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, from a man's perspective, I
Speaker 1: think too big is too much, and I think either
Speaker 1: medium sized going down is the right size for boobs
Speaker 1: or penis. So really quickly before we have to wrap,
Speaker 1: I sent you all the picture of Jason Derulo that
Speaker 1: Instagram took. First of all, that thing scared me. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. But and he was lying when he said,
Speaker 1: you didn't send it to me. I don't know what
Speaker 1: this is. You have it right here in your notes.
Speaker 1: What was only semi erect? Oh semi? He was talking
Speaker 1: about it down, So I wanted to see what everybody
Speaker 1: thought about Instagram taking it down. Also, wait, is this truthful?
Speaker 1: That is he said that is his body, that's a
Speaker 1: half mast yeah, he says, out of us. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the Internet, no, no, no no, he posted the picture. He
Speaker 1: didn't use photo shot. That's the same like photo shot.
Speaker 1: I believe him that that is. It was intimidating to
Speaker 1: me either way, Like he's he knows that's probably coming down.
Speaker 1: He's throwing it up there as like I'll get this
Speaker 1: up there. It's going to get out. The Internet is
Speaker 1: gonna grab it run with it. And everything. He was
Speaker 1: very smart. Everyone is talking about exactly when was this
Speaker 1: days ago? I didn't see. I saw it. Everybody in
Speaker 1: the world used the two finger feature two enlarge, right,
Speaker 1: everybody don't. Anyone in the room that says they didn't
Speaker 1: is a giant liar. I was like, what's so different
Speaker 1: you ever watched you ever watched track, track and field
Speaker 1: or wrestling, Like guys that are in super tight water
Speaker 1: polo water polo water polo cameras in slow mold. Everybody
Speaker 1: is the two fingers on Rick speedo. I used that
Speaker 1: the three finger tap when it's like thinking, it really
Speaker 1: blows up the heart. We'll put another photo of Rick
Speaker 1: and his speedo up on the Instagram and ever this
Speaker 1: guy he was looking for attention. He got it. Good
Speaker 1: for him. And you know, I think they take it down.
Speaker 1: I think taking it down it is probably not I
Speaker 1: don't think that was right for them to take it down.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was right of Instagram to take
Speaker 1: photos of women that are up there with everything going
Speaker 1: on and half of it's covered and it's still there.
Speaker 1: But it's also what doctors. I agree. I don't think
Speaker 1: I needed to come down, but it's what Dr Viviana said,
Speaker 1: it's like here he is like, oh, look at me,
Speaker 1: I'm so big, and he's like, oh, and it's only semi.
Speaker 1: It's like he said that, yes, he said it was
Speaker 1: only semirect. Wait he said that in the post. Well
Speaker 1: I have that was because he felt Instagram was wrong
Speaker 1: in taking it down and they said, look, this is
Speaker 1: a sexual graphic sexual like you're aroused in this picture.
Speaker 1: And he's like, it's only a semi. He posted it
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh, this is only a semi and
Speaker 1: then like a sales hitch, dude, Dr Viviana, you're rad,
Speaker 1: totally rad. Marriage at first sight, married at first sight?
Speaker 1: Oh did I call? Pardon me? Married at first sight? Well,
Speaker 1: it is marriage. Do you believe that's a good idea? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I think it's nuts. Okay, so let's talk about that
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's what I feel like if
Speaker 1: they sexted me in the right way. I'm just kidding totally.
Speaker 1: I've got too much chocolate. Here are my boobs, let's
Speaker 1: get married. So married at first sight? Is this wild?
Speaker 1: Just kind of modern take on arranged marriage? And there
Speaker 1: are three experts and a ton of people that work
Speaker 1: with potential and their singles, who want to get married,
Speaker 1: who want to be committed, who have had it with dating,
Speaker 1: they're sick, they're in their thirties. Usually they want to
Speaker 1: have kids soon. They can't go through another tenure relationships.
Speaker 1: How many couples have made it work? I think we
Speaker 1: do know twelve? Well, well, what's making work? Like? How long? Like? Babies? Babies?
Speaker 1: The first season aired five years ago. Uh so, and
Speaker 1: we're about to start our tenth on January one. I
Speaker 1: haven't this is only my second season. Season ten is
Speaker 1: my second season. I came on a nine and I
Speaker 1: love your most famous girl. What's her name? Jamie Otis?
Speaker 1: So she totally made it work. Jamie was went to
Speaker 1: husband Doug really stood out because she was not into
Speaker 1: him when they first got married, Like she was on
Speaker 1: the ground sobbing after she seen him. She saw him
Speaker 1: because they get married when they meet at the altar,
Speaker 1: it's a legal marriage, and then they go through eight weeks,
Speaker 1: seven to eight weeks, and then they get to decide
Speaker 1: if they want to um stay married or get a divorce,
Speaker 1: and we get to help them along the way. We
Speaker 1: give them tools. I mean, I love that I'm able
Speaker 1: to be so direct with these people. I love telling
Speaker 1: people what to do, so no kidding, I'm never going
Speaker 1: to send my boobs again. We know that. So you
Speaker 1: sent one when we took a break, It's why did
Speaker 1: you get my text? We really try not to have
Speaker 1: people focus on the physical, so when we're looking for potential,
Speaker 1: you know, spouses, we want people who are looking past that.
Speaker 1: We want people who want an emotional connection. We want compatibility.
Speaker 1: So we try our best and then we wait and
Speaker 1: see how it unfolds. I'm impressed. How do you bounce
Speaker 1: back from her falling down crying when she sees him? Like?
Speaker 1: How does he bounce back from that? She like fell
Speaker 1: in love with him? So Jamie and died there doing great.
Speaker 1: We have so many other couples who are doing well,
Speaker 1: They're doing awesome. I'm very partial to this last season
Speaker 1: season nine, Jamie and Elizabeth. They are one of our
Speaker 1: roller coaster couples. And one of the sexual conversations that
Speaker 1: came up um and subsequently went viral, is that she goes,
Speaker 1: I don't understand how you expect me to have sex
Speaker 1: with you all the time when it's basic Caucasian sex.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? What do you think it means missionary.
Speaker 1: Remember what you did, not define it? So what do
Speaker 1: you think it means missionary? Uh? Maybe really good basic
Speaker 1: just trying to bolster right there and very in the bedroom,
Speaker 1: very basic vanilla barely took their clothes off and then
Speaker 1: boom boom, done and off they go and take a
Speaker 1: shower and barely speak to each other. Something like that. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll have to ask Elizabeth at some point. But the
Speaker 1: truth is that's what people started thinking, and it's obviously
Speaker 1: not categorically true. But then we also have you should
Speaker 1: try sexting. We also have couples who don't ever consummate
Speaker 1: their marriage during the process and wait until later or
Speaker 1: not at all if they decide to divorce. But it's
Speaker 1: a really interesting experiment, and it's not for everybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you know that you're really into looks and you're
Speaker 1: really into chemistry and all that, you don't get to
Speaker 1: choose who you're marrying, so out of your control. Um,
Speaker 1: But if it's something where you're like, I know I
Speaker 1: want to be married, I know I can be a
Speaker 1: good husband. I know I can be a good wife.
Speaker 1: You pair me with somebody who is kind, generous, sweet,
Speaker 1: and somewhat good looking. I'll make it wears and they
Speaker 1: do hard past. It's very I prefer menus with pictures
Speaker 1: on them so I can see that really fast before
Speaker 1: we go. Can all four of you answer this question?
Speaker 1: Can attraction grow? Oh? Yeah, for sure, definitely I can go. Yes.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Amy, I'm terrified of it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. For me, I'm scared of that because I
Speaker 1: think sometimes it cannot and so I'm very worried going
Speaker 1: in if I'm not a ten out of ten. So yeah,
Speaker 1: for me, it's very scary. You're worried that you can't
Speaker 1: become more attractive somebody, no more attracted attracted. So I
Speaker 1: I feel that like there's people that I've met in
Speaker 1: my life that as you get to know them and
Speaker 1: understand them and appreciate them as a human, they become
Speaker 1: more attract Brooks is really attractive to me ready, but
Speaker 1: when but I remember the first day you met him,
Speaker 1: they were like muscles. And that's the crux of this.
Speaker 1: That's the crux of this because we can put two
Speaker 1: people together who on paper are so compatible, and sometimes
Speaker 1: they will get so fixated on any little thing and
Speaker 1: we're like, why are you throwing away such an amazing possible,
Speaker 1: you know, marriage forever because they're two inches too short.
Speaker 1: That's me, So it's not for you, Amy, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm working on it. Two inches too short, were Dr
Speaker 1: viv And I wanna just commend you, and I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for traveling all the way from Houston.
Speaker 1: But I want to also just thank you and acknowledge
Speaker 1: you for what you've given to our audience today. UM
Speaker 1: for the people that out there that are listening, that
Speaker 1: have undoubtedly been blown away by you, where can they
Speaker 1: find you aside from the TV show? Where can they
Speaker 1: find you and get in touch with you? I don't
Speaker 1: often blush, and I don't even blush what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about sex stuff, but I'm blessing now. Thank you. My
Speaker 1: website it's Dr Viviana dot com, D O C T O,
Speaker 1: R V I V I A and a UM dot
Speaker 1: com and then you know, married at First Sight any
Speaker 1: I would love for you all to binge watch it
Speaker 1: get caught up because next season is going to be amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited, and I have programs online so for
Speaker 1: couples who can't come see me in Houston because my
Speaker 1: license is in Texas. Then I've programs online. Now I'm
Speaker 1: super pumped about it. I just put them up yesterday.
Speaker 1: What is a program online? So, Um, it's the Doctor
Speaker 1: Viviana Method for Intimate Reconnection. And that is for couples
Speaker 1: who can't get past the awkward hump of going from
Speaker 1: like very awkward a very awkward, like they just don't
Speaker 1: have sexual or sensual connections anymore, and emotionally they also
Speaker 1: feel disconnected. So this is a very thorough, very extensive.
Speaker 1: It is not surface. So it's for couples who really
Speaker 1: want to have their hands held through a six week
Speaker 1: program and by the end of it, because I've been
Speaker 1: doing this for years, I just finally kind of systemized it.
Speaker 1: But it's for couples who are like, we could divorce,
Speaker 1: we haven't had sex in eight years, twelve years, or
Speaker 1: even just six months, whatever it is, but they can't
Speaker 1: do it on their own. If you can't do it
Speaker 1: on your own, try it out. And then I also
Speaker 1: have a primarial counseling course that I've also been doing
Speaker 1: since I don't know when. UM, And that's that's great
Speaker 1: for couples who just need to raise their confidence in
Speaker 1: their relationship either before after walking down the album back
Speaker 1: to the first courses that you're talking about. I think
Speaker 1: that's even for people that just even want to study
Speaker 1: more of that. Yes, even if you just don't know
Speaker 1: about it or you're wanting to to kind of make
Speaker 1: sure that you prevent things in the future. Let's say
Speaker 1: you're dating and you're like, Okay, what do I need
Speaker 1: to look out for. I've seen way too many couples
Speaker 1: on the brink of divorce. I wish they would do
Speaker 1: their work at the beginning. I mean, yeah, a little
Speaker 1: preventative maintenance sort of like I want to learn more
Speaker 1: about this. I don't need to wait till it becomes
Speaker 1: really make or break in my relationship to dive into it.
Speaker 1: So I think you can at that point. But also
Speaker 1: if you, even if you have a great relationship to
Speaker 1: look into these courses and study them, thank you. I'll
Speaker 1: definitely do it. So thank you so much. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Last word for our listeners, last word that you would
Speaker 1: love to leave the people with. I think when it
Speaker 1: comes to sexuality, you've got to know yourself, and if
Speaker 1: you can't know yourself, you need to get help because
Speaker 1: it will come up in all of your relationships um,
Speaker 1: whether whether it's a small part of it or a
Speaker 1: big part of it. If you want to be with
Speaker 1: someone long term, sexuality and sensuality will become a part
Speaker 1: of it. And it can either be something that really
Speaker 1: bolsters your relationship or it can destroy it. Wow. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. Dr Viviana Jones. Thank you. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: The cliffhanger that we've left you with at the start
Speaker 1: of the show. We have them. We have three very
Speaker 1: distinguished and honorable guests in studio with us, and they
Speaker 1: have a very exciting announcement. So we have Brooke Burke,
Speaker 1: Megan King Edmonds and Leela de Ville with us. They
Speaker 1: have a massive announcement. They have a new show coming
Speaker 1: out on My Heart. It is called Intimate Knowledge. It's
Speaker 1: a show about sex. Oh, it's all about all three
Speaker 1: ladies are saying, this is a show about sex. So
Speaker 1: on this show, we just did this whole episode. In
Speaker 1: the last episode we just did, We're about sex. And
Speaker 1: what's that curiosity? Did you see how well they did that?
Speaker 1: They're like, it's intimate Knowledge. We're all like, we're talking
Speaker 1: about sex. We're like, we're like, we played around for
Speaker 1: so long with the title because it's a little bit
Speaker 1: in your face, and for us, we wanted to bring
Speaker 1: this conversation to life and do it in an educational, provocative,
Speaker 1: sort of a sensual way rather than just sex. So
Speaker 1: that's why we went with Intimate Knowledge. Ladies way of
Speaker 1: talking about sex. I love it, so I pay so
Speaker 1: I love I love this. I'm really excited actually for
Speaker 1: this podcast to come out. I'm going to listen because
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to learn a ton of this. Um.
Speaker 1: I literally before before we started recording this overbreak, I
Speaker 1: called Lee Weapon because you were so impressive on our show.
Speaker 1: I would love to have you. Bet, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: I'm kind of upset that producer Amy put you on
Speaker 1: their show. We're so lucky. Just wait, this lady is
Speaker 1: going to just just spew knowledge that just blows you.
Speaker 1: We need that because knowledge is king, and we need
Speaker 1: to open our mind and we needed to learn, which
Speaker 1: is why what you guys are doing is so cool.
Speaker 1: So that women can understand the perspective of a man. Right,
Speaker 1: So it works both ways. So I have a question
Speaker 1: for all three of you, what what is your individually,
Speaker 1: what is your mission and why you want to do
Speaker 1: this project? I mean, for me, I think that you
Speaker 1: know that sex is such a huge part of our lives.
Speaker 1: I mean, it literally is the reason we're here. We're
Speaker 1: all here on this earth. But um, it's so much
Speaker 1: more than that, you know, It's it's emotional and intimate
Speaker 1: and and physical and it's all these things, So why
Speaker 1: why don't we talk about it more? Why is it?
Speaker 1: Why is it bedroom talk? Let's bring it we I
Speaker 1: want to bring it to the table because I know
Speaker 1: I have questions and I would love to explore kind
Speaker 1: of what it means in the in the bigger picture,
Speaker 1: and so we're here to do that. And I also
Speaker 1: think this is a conversation that needs to be happened
Speaker 1: that women are having amongst themselves, but not necessarily out loud.
Speaker 1: When I think about like sensual health or intimacy, like
Speaker 1: that's sort of what we're all striving for, a human connection.
Speaker 1: I think it's why relationships work, why marriages fail, why
Speaker 1: we're struggling, what we're looking for, how we lose our way,
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to sex, sensual health, intimacy,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. But we're all talking
Speaker 1: about it. And maybe it's maybe it's because I'm on
Speaker 1: the other side of marriage right now and I'm single,
Speaker 1: and I'm in my forties and I'm sort of in heat.
Speaker 1: Girl alogetically say that, no, but I mean I'm in
Speaker 1: it right now. So Amy and I like went back
Speaker 1: and forth for over a year trying to figure this out.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, there's so much comedy and challenge and
Speaker 1: struggle and reality, and like, it's just amazing that I
Speaker 1: find myself after nineteen years of marriage now in this
Speaker 1: space smarter, with an open mind and an open heart
Speaker 1: and an heat still that do you want me? I
Speaker 1: have a lot of male followers on my Instagram? Do
Speaker 1: you want me to blast that? Probably? Probably don't. That's
Speaker 1: not that's not in my bio. Probably don't say that. Um,
Speaker 1: I was just being honest because I committed to honesty
Speaker 1: on this project. But um yeah, let's like, can we
Speaker 1: edit that out? And I'm getting no, I am you
Speaker 1: don't have to put it in your bio, but I
Speaker 1: think they're going to find out you've said it twice.
Speaker 1: I think we know your purpose, but I want to
Speaker 1: get more from you and just hear from you what
Speaker 1: is your purpose and mission? With the podcast, I get
Speaker 1: to speak about what I love to speak out most,
Speaker 1: which is sex and intimacy. And I think it's just
Speaker 1: such a beautiful offering because so often it's it's not
Speaker 1: what we're experiencing that's difficult, is that we feel that
Speaker 1: we're experiencing it. A loan and so this really cracks
Speaker 1: the open that that conversation. And yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: I think it's any in all humans, men and women.
Speaker 1: It's something we deeply yearn for and crave, is that
Speaker 1: intimate and that physical relationship. But yet it's one of
Speaker 1: the things that's very hush hush. As you said, Meg,
Speaker 1: you want to bring this to light. It's something that
Speaker 1: for some reason, culturally societally, we do not bring to
Speaker 1: the forefront enough. So we try and do that on
Speaker 1: this podcast. We try and open up a space for
Speaker 1: men to open up, take the first step in put
Speaker 1: down our weapons and say hey, this is what we're
Speaker 1: dealing with. Um. But I love that you guys are
Speaker 1: going at it in the space. We do it in
Speaker 1: many different spaces. You guys are going at it specifically
Speaker 1: through sex and intimacy. And can I just add to
Speaker 1: what you just said Leather too, because you mentioned alone,
Speaker 1: and just to be serious on the other side of
Speaker 1: what I was saying before, I think in that time
Speaker 1: and in solitude and spending time with yourself as a
Speaker 1: woman to really understand where you are and how you
Speaker 1: feel and how you think. Because when we really start
Speaker 1: to learn and so for me, I have always been
Speaker 1: an advocate for women's health and educating women and supporting
Speaker 1: women in their journey whatever it looks like. So that's
Speaker 1: really important for me to open up that dialogue and
Speaker 1: to create a comfort zone and to have those conversations
Speaker 1: that are a little bit uncomfortable but that are super
Speaker 1: important as we learn and understand our own bodies and
Speaker 1: how to connect and what we want and how to
Speaker 1: find the right words to express that, because that's sort
Speaker 1: of the struggle to even marriage and relationships for about
Speaker 1: single life, but how to communicate and how to ask
Speaker 1: and express and experiment and um, it's very taboost for
Speaker 1: a lot of And this is why I really do
Speaker 1: what I do, because I really feel that there's there's nothing,
Speaker 1: um quite that will define our lives. Then the connect
Speaker 1: the deepen connections that we have, you know, these really
Speaker 1: define like the quality of our lives in terms of
Speaker 1: our sense of aliveness and the bonding and connectivity that
Speaker 1: we have with others, I mean sex and just in
Speaker 1: relationship in general. And I just want to say, because
Speaker 1: Brooke and have worked on the show for over a
Speaker 1: year to get I'm like almost emotional about it because
Speaker 1: here I know it's like hard, and these three women
Speaker 1: are I'm so honored to work with them. And this
Speaker 1: is a show that will be produced, written, edited solely
Speaker 1: by women. The whole team is women, and these three
Speaker 1: ladies are willing to be so vulnerable and put what
Speaker 1: is very personal stuff and knowledge out there for all
Speaker 1: the women and men listening. And that's like scary. So
Speaker 1: just the last two episodes we've done, everyone was so
Speaker 1: willing to like talk about a subject that's harder to
Speaker 1: talk about, and these ladies are going to do that
Speaker 1: for the benefit of hundreds of thousands of people listening.
Speaker 1: And I'm so glad you said that. And use the
Speaker 1: word vulnerable because Omegan and I are going through a
Speaker 1: very transformative period of time in our life. I like
Speaker 1: to even think of it as a bit of a metamorphos.
Speaker 1: But being vulnerable as scary as shit, and it's hard,
Speaker 1: and I worked really hard to be able to be vulnerable.
Speaker 1: And I think in that space as women, if you
Speaker 1: can get there, and there's just so many beautiful things
Speaker 1: on the other side of that and scary, yes, but vulnerability,
Speaker 1: I think is truthful. And to kind of expand on
Speaker 1: that two brook, being vulnerable at a time when you
Speaker 1: need to be the strongest, that balance is really tough.
Speaker 1: And so to find that balance and also to not
Speaker 1: deny yourself your your feelings or your emotions and allow
Speaker 1: yourself to feel them. But also being strong, what does
Speaker 1: that mean? So that's something that we need to explore
Speaker 1: and and feel. It's beautifully said men too, because we
Speaker 1: are always trying to be strong. And I think even
Speaker 1: for a very masculine, you know, alpha man, having moments
Speaker 1: where you don't have to be so strong, I think
Speaker 1: is so powerful and sexy and so masculine and mother's
Speaker 1: businesswomen like when you learn that you can become unraveled
Speaker 1: and give yourself permission to be vulnerable. Is the first
Speaker 1: time in my life. I wasn't that woman in my marriage.
Speaker 1: Sorry David, I wasn't. But now if I knew, I
Speaker 1: then what I knew. But seriously, like vulnerability, it is
Speaker 1: strength scary. You know what I'm super excited about for
Speaker 1: you guys is have you, guys hosted a podcast or
Speaker 1: done a podcast ever before? Not together? I have, and
Speaker 1: I really know so much for me how men think
Speaker 1: for me has been more of a learning platform than
Speaker 1: a sharing platform. How much I have learned and grown.
Speaker 1: The knowledge that I've digested, the conversations were able to
Speaker 1: have has helped me learn more than I've ever shared
Speaker 1: on here. Well, I think that's the I think that's
Speaker 1: the difference is that we're not here thinking we're teaching anybody.
Speaker 1: We're here learning as well, and people are learning along
Speaker 1: with us. We're not here saying, oh, we know all
Speaker 1: the answers. We have a lot to learn, and so
Speaker 1: when we talk about these things, we too are being
Speaker 1: vulnerable and and trying to you know, realize and learned
Speaker 1: things that we don't know. And I think that's why,
Speaker 1: you know, it translates to listeners as well. Yeah, well, um,
Speaker 1: what is like the first topic you guys want to
Speaker 1: dig into? What is something you're super What can listeners
Speaker 1: expect on the first episode? What so many? I mean,
Speaker 1: we have the longest list. I mean, the craziest thing
Speaker 1: is like we have twenty shows ready to go because
Speaker 1: this is such a topic that women talk about constantly
Speaker 1: get together indition, We're like, oh my gosh, write that out.
Speaker 1: Oh we have to tell that story. Oh I forgot
Speaker 1: about There's just so many things happening right now in
Speaker 1: this chapter of our lives. What do you would say
Speaker 1: For the first episode, We're really going to dig into
Speaker 1: um the importance of intimacy and what intimacy really is
Speaker 1: to women. It's not just sex to women. So it's
Speaker 1: understanding what is it, how do we get it, and
Speaker 1: how do we sustain it, how do we not let
Speaker 1: it go away? And how do we trust someone else
Speaker 1: with our own vulnerability and sexuality. I remember our conversation
Speaker 1: on our show, and just like how powerful and how
Speaker 1: much we learned about intimacy, that it's so different to
Speaker 1: a woman than it is to a man, and you
Speaker 1: have as good of an understanding of it as anybody made. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really love to talk about the mechanics of of
Speaker 1: relationship and what what it is to be intimate, but
Speaker 1: also what it is that we desire, you know, And
Speaker 1: I actually separate those two a little bit because we
Speaker 1: both we have both of those needs, the need for
Speaker 1: love and intimacy and that relationship, but we also have
Speaker 1: an equal not it's not equal for everybody, but a
Speaker 1: charge and a desire like that desire for the connection
Speaker 1: and the unknown and the erotic, and you know, both
Speaker 1: of these things are at play, and so it's and
Speaker 1: I love that as you're saying this, I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: even within a relationship, even within a twenty year marriage, unknowns,
Speaker 1: there's erotic there's like you don't figure everything out in
Speaker 1: two years or it's not like, oh we've been married
Speaker 1: five years and everything is the same now. So as
Speaker 1: you're saying that, I'm thinking, this is a life journey.
Speaker 1: This isn't this isn't a time um stamp. Yeah, time
Speaker 1: capsule journey like discovery. I mean, just to be totally transparent.
Speaker 1: It's like, because women, we think we figure it out
Speaker 1: and then we change. So sorry guys, but it's hard
Speaker 1: to even it's crazy, like we think we get there
Speaker 1: and then our whole body, our hormones, our whole system
Speaker 1: is just ever changing. So it's like we want stability,
Speaker 1: but we won't want spontaneity like it want this ultimate contrast.
Speaker 1: It's just a complete mind blowing cast on the shop.
Speaker 1: It's like it's really really challenged. It's a dynamic. It's
Speaker 1: a dynamic experience, and it's it's like just the phases
Speaker 1: of the what women go through is just so tremendous
Speaker 1: um and how that relates with our partner and the
Speaker 1: dynamic that then creates and how then you're in alliterative
Speaker 1: process of relating, Like it isn't a stagnant thing. It
Speaker 1: isn't always, it's not constant um be kind of it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the moon, right, It's like we're going
Speaker 1: through cycles constantly. I'm excited for this. I want to
Speaker 1: listen to this because I wanted January six. Thanks for
Speaker 1: helping us launch it, and I love what you guys
Speaker 1: are doing. I want to listen to this because I
Speaker 1: want to be educated more like we have actually more
Speaker 1: female listeners. I think of how men think than we
Speaker 1: have men in the mission. I started out with this
Speaker 1: listening to like serve young man, to serve men, and
Speaker 1: we've had women in flocks tune into this show and
Speaker 1: can Lela when you were on our show, I don't
Speaker 1: think you got to saw this. You got to saw this,
Speaker 1: got to see this. But we sat there and we
Speaker 1: talked for a long time, all of us, and we
Speaker 1: didn't take any break for a while. So when we
Speaker 1: were done, all the guys went to the men's room
Speaker 1: and when we walked in there, every single one of
Speaker 1: us was like wow, like we had learned so much
Speaker 1: and heard so much from you that we didn't know
Speaker 1: and as like we had the conversation, we're learning it,
Speaker 1: but it almost like we were having the conversation but
Speaker 1: we held our breath and when we went in there
Speaker 1: after what we were like, like, it was exhausting how
Speaker 1: much we didn't know that we were learning. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: hope we get to say that too, and then it's
Speaker 1: not just a chick journey that men will tune in
Speaker 1: and that we can learn because it's really about understanding
Speaker 1: the polarity of both masculine and feminine. So that's amazing
Speaker 1: you guys. Well, then I hope that we get to
Speaker 1: say the same thing, and I think you will. I
Speaker 1: hope guys tune into it because it's I think from
Speaker 1: a cultural perspective, I think there's a stigma that um
Speaker 1: sensuality and spirituality and intimacy is a woman's thing. I
Speaker 1: think like in the locker rooms that I was in in,
Speaker 1: in the conditions and culture that I spent most of
Speaker 1: my life in, that was the consensus is that it
Speaker 1: was viewed as as that. And now being outside and
Speaker 1: removing those layers and conditions and things that were became
Speaker 1: a part of me. I'm like, so curious about this
Speaker 1: space for myself. I want to understand my wife as well,
Speaker 1: but I want to understand intimacy for myself and what
Speaker 1: does that even look like in presence in my life.
Speaker 1: So I think guys will tune into this, And if
Speaker 1: you're a gentleman listening to our show right now, I
Speaker 1: fully encourage you to listen to their podcast to explore yourself,
Speaker 1: but also to learn more about your partner and how
Speaker 1: you can communicate better with them. So I'm super excited
Speaker 1: for Look, even if you think you know, you don't.
Speaker 1: Brook said, they decide and then they change, So you come. Brooke, Megan, Leela,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. The podcast January six, and it's
Speaker 1: intimate knowledge. You can find it right here on I
Speaker 1: Heart anywhere else you get your podcast. That's it for
Speaker 1: this episode of How Men Think. We'll see you right
Speaker 1: back here next week. Till then, take care of one another,
Speaker 1: love one another. You have a lot of sex that's new.