WEBVTT - Reckless Replay: Older Don't Mean Better

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Canfully Reckless, the production of iHeartRadio and the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Effects, And.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like that, we're back on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Yeat another cafully Reckless episode with your

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<v Speaker 1>girl Jess Ilarious. I'm gonna jump straight in, just fix

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<v Speaker 1>my mess again. We got some voice notes this time, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, because I'm getting tired of reading y'all long

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<v Speaker 1>gas Synopsiss. All right, y'all, don't be spelling right or nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I keep telling y'all to proof read or sending your

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<v Speaker 1>voice but I love y'all either.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, so I guess I'm just have to keep reading.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Jess, I've been listening to your podcast since the

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<v Speaker 3>very beginning, and I've always wanted to send in something,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just never had the courage.

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<v Speaker 4>So today I'm doing it. So I'm twenty three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Old and I've been dealing with the guy for five

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<v Speaker 3>years now, actually yesterday made it fin years.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been on and off.

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<v Speaker 3>We somewhat have a relationship, and I will break that

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<v Speaker 3>down to you, but I believe me, being young and dumb,

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<v Speaker 3>I've accepted this and allowed it to go on way

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<v Speaker 3>longer than it has and I really think I know

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<v Speaker 3>what's best, but due to also doubted myself, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So I really like advice on this.

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<v Speaker 3>So the guy I've been dating for the last five

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<v Speaker 3>years talking to, I will say when I met him, initially,

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<v Speaker 3>I was twenty years old and by the time he

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<v Speaker 3>was thirty eight years old. So fast forward, I'm twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three today and he's forty one. I know, huge huge

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<v Speaker 3>age gap.

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<v Speaker 4>Between the two of us. We've worked hast had.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really never been a problem for me, the age thing,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's never been a problem for him.

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<v Speaker 4>But relationship wise, since day one, since.

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<v Speaker 3>I've known this man, he got my number, we went

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<v Speaker 3>out and the until I went to his house, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's been like this ever since.

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<v Speaker 4>He'd call me every day. We call each other every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it went from him calling me baby pretty face.

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<v Speaker 4>To telling me this is forever.

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<v Speaker 3>So now I'm believing in my head this is a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>This man wants me forever, and you know, I should

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<v Speaker 3>be acting as if I want to be wanted forever.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I should do my wifely duties. Now, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm thinking. So for the past five years, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I've been doing. Although we don't live together, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>at his house a lot. He will come and get

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<v Speaker 3>me and I'll be there for maybe sometimes up to

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<v Speaker 3>a month. I'll be you know, with him, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever may be the case. I am a mother, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I have my own schedule. Of course, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing my thing on the side as a mother. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never you know, selected on my mother skills to be

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<v Speaker 3>with him. But this relationship has taken a lot from

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<v Speaker 3>me in my twenties. You know, I've been only about him,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's been feeling weird. These are red flags that

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<v Speaker 3>I know I should have paid attention to a long

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<v Speaker 3>time ago, but he has filled my head up with

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<v Speaker 3>so many excuses that I thought it was normal. So

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't met his mother, I haven't met his sister.

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<v Speaker 3>He only has one sibling. I've never met any of them.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't post me on social media. It was hard

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<v Speaker 3>to get a date out of this man. And literally,

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<v Speaker 3>as I'm sitting here telling you this story, like I know,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, literally, yeah, it's time for me to walk away.

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<v Speaker 4>Fast forward five.

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<v Speaker 3>Years later, I've been sucking and sacking this man.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've been doing all that to.

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<v Speaker 3>Him I've been cooking and cleaning, and I come to

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<v Speaker 3>his house and wash his fucking walls, and clean his

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<v Speaker 3>fucking shower and make them dinner, bake up cakes, like all.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the above. And I know I'm doing too much.

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<v Speaker 3>And as a twenty three year old, there's so much more.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much more to be experienced in life. And

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<v Speaker 3>why I said, you know, it hasn't been a full

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<v Speaker 3>blown relationship because, like I said, nobody knows we're in

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<v Speaker 3>this relationship, literally except for us, you know, And that

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<v Speaker 3>seems weird in the year of twenty twenty two. I

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<v Speaker 3>just don't think it's okay to I understand being private,

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<v Speaker 3>but this is a secret.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a secret. This is in privacy anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Anytime I brought up the fact that i'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>meet as parents, we never spent holidays together. Anytime I

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<v Speaker 3>bring things like that up, he tells me, I'm being childish.

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<v Speaker 4>That's little shit, and I need to get over that.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it important to me his family when his

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<v Speaker 3>mama don't really care to meet nobody else, She don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to meet no more women, things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're telling me that we're gonna be together forever.

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<v Speaker 3>You're even doing the things to you know, we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>the things to make a baby here, you know. So

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's time to stop fooling around and to

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<v Speaker 3>just grow up. And although he's gonna tell me whatever

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<v Speaker 3>I need to hear to stay, I'm really.

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<v Speaker 4>Ready to walk away.

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<v Speaker 3>We had an actual talk yesterday and he told me

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<v Speaker 3>finally that he wouldn't be able to marry me, not

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<v Speaker 3>right now at least, and I really feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>need to take that as face value and get the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck away, Jess, help my mess. As side know, he

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<v Speaker 3>is a wealthy man and at this point he's a

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<v Speaker 3>shiny ass penny. Yes I said it, regardless of what

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<v Speaker 3>he has or how good he looks, or why they

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<v Speaker 3>bloa say, the way he has treated me has been

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like mental mind games and that sick me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I feel like he's better than that and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>better than that, and I should do us both a

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<v Speaker 3>favorite and walk away. But Jess, I need you to

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<v Speaker 3>straighten me up. I need you to tell me this.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I think about answering those calls again, when

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like talking to him, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, we're not doing that. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>be done. I need better.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be a wife. I want to find

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<v Speaker 3>my husband, and I really do bad all by myself

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm not gonna be a wife. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>need some encouraging words. Please, yes, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So girl, I'm gonna beat you down, then I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>build you up and encourage you and send you on

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<v Speaker 1>your way because you asked for.

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<v Speaker 2>This, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you already know because you kept saying

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<v Speaker 1>it while you were telling me. You know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what type of man this is, you know, And he

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<v Speaker 1>caught you very, very young. He caught you when you

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<v Speaker 1>were eighteen. He was thirty eight. What the fuck are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? What a baby?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I've done this as well. When I was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a relationship with.

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<v Speaker 2>A thirty I think he was thirty eight too. I

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<v Speaker 2>met this man when I was fourteen. He was thirty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was twenty years older than me, twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>older than me when I was sixteen. So I absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly how you feel. I know your pain. That

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<v Speaker 1>shit makes you feel special. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in your little young mind. I'm speaking to eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old you and your young mind. Oh you doing

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<v Speaker 1>a damn thing, cause you got a nigga that drive,

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<v Speaker 1>and he older, and he is and he that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is and he that, and you know what that

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<v Speaker 1>has done is kind of took you out of the

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<v Speaker 1>dating pool to date your age, or to date a

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<v Speaker 1>little older than you, and to even experience what peer

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<v Speaker 1>love could be like.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't even get to experience what you don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, or what turns you off

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<v Speaker 1>about an older guy because you ain't never been dating

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<v Speaker 1>no younger guys, you know what I'm saying. Now, you

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<v Speaker 1>said you have a baby, and apparently that's not his baby, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm very glad that it's not. So apparently you've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing some other fucking and sucking outside of this man,

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<v Speaker 1>And I listen, more power to you, because you do

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<v Speaker 1>not need to be with him. You didn't have no

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<v Speaker 1>business being with him. He was eighteen. He didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>no business fucking praying on you when you were eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Now listen, this is something that he does.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna say this because this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that I was dating when I was sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>did as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You think you're the only one, and you're not. He

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<v Speaker 2>has a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Of y'all little young girls, and I think he also

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<v Speaker 1>may be married as well. He's probably bored in his marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably is never gonna leave his wife or whoever

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck he got at home, which is why you

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<v Speaker 1>never see him on holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>But you are his fun now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been doing this for a long time, so he

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<v Speaker 1>knows how to keep up these relationships and make each

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<v Speaker 1>one of y'all feel like y'all are the priority.

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<v Speaker 2>You said.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks to you every day, y'all flirt every day

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to see him. You just don't get to

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<v Speaker 1>spend the times of the year that means the most

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<v Speaker 1>to people usually, and that those are holidays, birthdays and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. He's keeping you exactly where he wants

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<v Speaker 1>you to be. He's gonna tell you anything you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear to get you to never leave, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what he was doing when he met you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why he prays on y'all so young. That's why he

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<v Speaker 1>dates y'all so young. Now, mind you, I'm saying y'all

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not the only one. That should be evident

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<v Speaker 1>enough this is me straightening you up. That should be

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<v Speaker 1>evident enough for you to be like, oh, yeah, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're not his only little young baby. And while

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<v Speaker 1>he's not old enough to be a sugar daddy, oh

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<v Speaker 1>he on his way. Now I can say you're a

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<v Speaker 1>sugar baby, not be a sugar daddy. But baby, you

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<v Speaker 1>are a sugar baby. Believe that that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know what to do. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you said, oh, I want to be a wife. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be married. Yes, I want, I want, I want,

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<v Speaker 1>But not at the expense of your hearts, not at

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<v Speaker 1>the expense of who you are, your mind, your dignity. Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>do not rob yourself. You're dodging a bullet leaving that

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<v Speaker 1>shit alone. You're doing him a favor, and you a favor,

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife a favor, or his girlfriend a favor.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing a favor for all three of y'all at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. But the fact that you've been cooking and

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<v Speaker 1>cleaning and like, this motherfucker is training you to be

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<v Speaker 1>a wife that you'll never be. So actually he trained

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<v Speaker 1>you for somebody else, you know, because you're gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>someone a very lucky husband one day. It just cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be that, nigga. It cannot and it won't be. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's anything I can do with my power, I will

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<v Speaker 1>not let you do that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell no, you're twenty three. You're supposed to be worrying

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<v Speaker 1>about what fucking career choice you want to pick. Your

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be worried about, you know, like, come on

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<v Speaker 1>now and then you in your early twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>We are in different times.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're supposed to be thinking about starting the fucking business,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to school if that's what you.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to be worrying about other shit, how you

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<v Speaker 1>can get ahead in life, how you can be setting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself up so you can be well off in your thirties. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to be going to parties and shit. You're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be dating around, not waiting for an old

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<v Speaker 1>ass man to leave another woman, because that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>you will be waiting for, And you don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you will be signing up for. Don't nobody

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<v Speaker 1>know about you. It ain't nobody going on about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine him bringing your little young ass to his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine that he wouldn't do that if he wasn't with

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<v Speaker 1>another woman. You're too young. I would feel hard as

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<v Speaker 1>a forty one year old man bringing my twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>year old girlfriend to meet my mother. What it's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that he can even learn from you. A relationship is

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<v Speaker 1>given to take everything. It's benefit for both everything. I

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<v Speaker 1>want a man I can learn from, but I also

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<v Speaker 1>want my man to learn from me. It ain't nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that he can learn from your little ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that you're dense, or you're stupid or

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<v Speaker 1>not intelligent or anything. No, uneducated. That's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>that he has been twenty three before. And I understand

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<v Speaker 1>you're very mature dealing with his old ass, but you

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<v Speaker 1>still can't teach him shit. That's why he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>control the situation because you know he manipulates you. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't teach him anything. You're not even in control of

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<v Speaker 1>the situation. But you're gonna take control. You're gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>that ass. That's how you get revenge, that's how you control.

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<v Speaker 1>You leave it and let him deal with any other

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<v Speaker 1>little young girl he gonna deal with. Let him sell

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<v Speaker 1>them dreams to somebody else. Okay, seriously raise your baby

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<v Speaker 1>and date date. I don't feel bad telling young girls

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<v Speaker 1>date around, date a round? How the fuck you know

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<v Speaker 1>what you want if you never had nothing to compare

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<v Speaker 1>it to? How the fuck you know you comparing everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>This old ass man girl? What somebody gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Meet you and rock your world?

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<v Speaker 1>Sweep you off your fucking feet, Beautiful, don't let it go?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? I love you, like literally like I love

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<v Speaker 2>you up.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up, I know this shit getting good, but listen

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<v Speaker 1>to just a couple seconds of a commercial.

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<v Speaker 2>If you love me, you'll listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, this is an update, and then she has

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<v Speaker 1>another problem that she would like for me to fix.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, Hey, Jess, I was just listening to you on

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<v Speaker 3>the No for Sure podcast, and it reminded me that

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot to actually fucking update you. But I listened

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<v Speaker 3>to your advice, and you know what, I literally put

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<v Speaker 3>my pride aside for no reason. I had always, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to hit them up, but I was just scared

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>And once I heard.

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<v Speaker 3>You say, you know, either pray for new friends to

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<v Speaker 3>come into your life or hit them up because you

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<v Speaker 3>missed them or whatever, I literally was crying and listening

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<v Speaker 3>to it because, like I genuinely really missed them, like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a part of me is grieving because I

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<v Speaker 3>missed them so much. So I did what you said,

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<v Speaker 3>and I texted both of them, and one of them

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<v Speaker 3>was like, she was like awkwardly texting me as if

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<v Speaker 3>like why are you texting me?

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<v Speaker 5>Or like what did you hear?

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<v Speaker 3>So I just stopped texting her, and the other one

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<v Speaker 3>left me on red. So I just want to thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for taking the time out to listen to my

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<v Speaker 3>story and.

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<v Speaker 5>Help me with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna pray for some new friends because some

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<v Speaker 3>homes is not shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bydy exactly, Baby, I love you too, and listen, that's

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<v Speaker 1>no love loss there. If you want to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>pray for those ladies, you can. If you just want

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<v Speaker 1>to leave it there, leave it there. Don't reach out again.

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<v Speaker 1>You missed them so much and you love them still

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<v Speaker 1>with everything in you because you guys grew up together.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were your.

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<v Speaker 1>First real fucking friends. But people grow up and certain

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<v Speaker 1>people evolve and some people don't. When you grow, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>won't grow with you. Unfortunately, everybody grows at their own pace.

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<v Speaker 1>Those girls are still stuck in the motherfucking hood, fighting

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<v Speaker 1>and shit. They want some zoos network shit. Naw, you

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<v Speaker 1>on some HBO shit. Baby, Go ahead, keep on going,

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<v Speaker 1>keep on fucking going. Okay, no love loss, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>even regret hitting them, because maybe that's the closure that

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<v Speaker 1>you fucking need a lot of people don't realize. Closure

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to always be positive. Closure does not have

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<v Speaker 1>to always bring you back together, because if it's closure,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's not closed. You're reopening, you're rehashing. No closure

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly what the fuck you got? All right, left

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<v Speaker 1>me all read? All right, I reached out. I love you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna love y'all from a distance.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you still choose to but you said it, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Them holes ain't shit and it wasn't shit before, but

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<v Speaker 1>you loved them. Y'all had a relationship. You know, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>had friendship, and it's nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>They just gave you the closure that you needed. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you have another story. I'm gonna play hejus.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm back, and I just want to get your

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<v Speaker 3>advice on the situation to see if it's really the

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<v Speaker 3>deal I'm making it or if I'm overreacting.

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<v Speaker 5>So to give you a little background history.

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<v Speaker 3>I met my man about four years ago and we've

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<v Speaker 3>been in a relationship for three years together. We have

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<v Speaker 3>one kid, but but he came with one and then

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<v Speaker 3>I had one, so we have three kids all together.

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<v Speaker 3>The relationship is really well, it's a typical relationship. We

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<v Speaker 3>argue some days, but we're always good most of the time,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's really good. He's a good man. He's good

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<v Speaker 3>to me. He really does a lot for me, for

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<v Speaker 3>my son. We all love him, but I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>feel like, in a way, he belittles me, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>honestly starting to fuck with me. He's a few years

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<v Speaker 3>older than me, like about five years older than me,

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<v Speaker 3>so he has some more experience in life, and I

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<v Speaker 3>never take away from him. He did like three years

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<v Speaker 3>in jail, so he has a lot of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is when it comes to me expressing anything

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<v Speaker 3>to him, I feel like he makes it seem as

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm dumb.

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<v Speaker 5>He belittles any knowledge.

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<v Speaker 3>That I talk to him about, and it's kind of

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<v Speaker 3>starting to put me in a place where I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't want to be with this man

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<v Speaker 3>because he doesn't look at me as smart. Like sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>when I explain things to him, it's, you know, easy,

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<v Speaker 3>but other times it's like he's trying to belittle what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying or my point of view.

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<v Speaker 5>So for instance, I was talking.

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<v Speaker 3>To him because he's in jail now, and no, I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't meet him in jail. He just went to jail

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<v Speaker 3>this year, so don't do it.

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<v Speaker 5>But so for instance, he's in jail, so of course

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>Any access to any internet or anything. And he said

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<v Speaker 3>that the TV is always on sports. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>telling him about the ten year old boy who killed

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<v Speaker 3>his mom in Missouri, and I was telling him, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what the news reporter said. I constantly stated what the

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<v Speaker 3>news said, or what the article said, or what this

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<v Speaker 3>this nest said.

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<v Speaker 5>And then it's like I was like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a little bit emotional because I'm a mom

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<v Speaker 3>myself and I have two kids, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it was just like heartbreaking as a mother.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was talking to him about it. I was

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<v Speaker 5>really vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really bothered me, something that still bothers me

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<v Speaker 3>because it's really new.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's kind of like he brushed off how I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was feeling, and he was just saying, you know, will

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what happened, but I don't believe everything

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<v Speaker 3>that be on the news.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like people.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe anything somebody tell them, and I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 3>always like that. Even when he explains things to me,

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<v Speaker 3>he starts talk by saying, will I know you don't know?

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<v Speaker 5>Or I know you don't think like this, or you know.

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<v Speaker 5>He basically just always tries.

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<v Speaker 3>To make it seem like I'm this dumb ass bitch,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's honestly starting to bother me. Like I told you,

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<v Speaker 3>We've been together three years, so this is three years

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<v Speaker 3>of this shit been built up. We have talked about

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<v Speaker 3>it multiple times, and I have told him that I

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<v Speaker 3>would prefer him not to say those type of words

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<v Speaker 3>before we're discussing anything. Don't tell me, well, you know

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think like this, or you know, because you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what the fuck I know, you don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how the fuck I think. And it's really starting to

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<v Speaker 3>bother me to the point where I'm starting to for

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of love with him because I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't look at me as a black educated woman

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<v Speaker 3>that I carry myself to be.

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<v Speaker 5>And usually people break up with people.

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<v Speaker 3>For cheating or being abusive and it's literally none of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I've asked one other person besides you,

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<v Speaker 3>and they said that, you know, it's just how he

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<v Speaker 3>is because he was in prison. You know, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people who went to prison before are really educated

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't have anything to do but read and

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<v Speaker 3>learn upon things, which is also true.

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<v Speaker 5>He is a you know, educated black man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's highly educated, and I give him that props, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like when it comes to me, it's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing like he belittles me all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>No matter what we're talking about. I always feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he just puts me down when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>being educated, and it's starting to bother me. When I

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<v Speaker 3>do tell him stuff like what's bothering me or what

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying that he shouldn't say, he does apologize, and

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<v Speaker 3>he honestly takes my feels is in consideration for the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>and he might not say it for about a week.

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<v Speaker 3>But then it's like when we're talking about something else

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<v Speaker 3>that's going on in social media or for our future,

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<v Speaker 3>he always mentions that, you know, I know you don't

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<v Speaker 3>think like this, and it's just starting to like annoy

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<v Speaker 3>the hell out of me, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be with him. So I just want to come to

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<v Speaker 3>you and see if I'm overreacting. Is it not a

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<v Speaker 3>big deal? Because, like I said, I carry myself as

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<v Speaker 3>an educated black woman.

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<v Speaker 5>I am young.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm only twenty one and he is twenty six, so

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<v Speaker 3>we do have like a little bit of an age difference.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know that could be not a big deal

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<v Speaker 3>to most because I'm considered younger to him.

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<v Speaker 5>And I haven't been through that much in life.

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<v Speaker 3>But I still feel like I carry myself well and

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<v Speaker 3>I would like other people to notice how educated I am,

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<v Speaker 3>especially my man. If nobody else noticed, then I would

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<v Speaker 3>at least want my man to know, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a beautiful black woman who is also educated.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't want him to just think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just dumb bitch.

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<v Speaker 5>And even if he doesn't think.

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<v Speaker 3>It, because he always says that's not what I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not what I mean, I just don't like the

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<v Speaker 3>tone when we're talking. It's to the point where I

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<v Speaker 3>have just stopped talking to him about shit that I

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<v Speaker 3>know he would respond in that type of manner about.

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<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, girl, I just want to know am I overreacting?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it not a big deal. Am I doing too much?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, we have been together for three years,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm just annoyed as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we got a commercial and if you click off

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast, I swear I'm gonna beat your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, I don't think you're overreacting at all. I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the rest of the listeners could agree

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<v Speaker 1>with me as well. I don't think you're overreacting. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is something within himself. He's not happy in

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<v Speaker 1>his life where he is. Anytime he has to just

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<v Speaker 1>keep telling you you don't think like that, or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't listen everything that happens. Obviously you don't listen, and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you don't know everything, or you would know how

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<v Speaker 1>to keep that asside of jail. Damn, how about that?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Listen, while people do go.

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<v Speaker 1>To jail, and that's where a lot of men and

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<v Speaker 1>women both are taught a lot of things because right

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<v Speaker 1>they don't really have a lot of things that they

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<v Speaker 1>can do, a lot of activities that can get into

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>They're in prison, so they do read.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people do ready, and they educate themselves

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<v Speaker 1>and they even have classes in prisons, you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>jails so much, but in prisons, you know, they got

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<v Speaker 1>classes you can take it and all that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting anything past how educated he is or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also feel like that he plays on the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you are young, five years younger than he is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like you're kind of letting that play

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<v Speaker 1>on you as well, because I've even heard you say

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't really been through much in life.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're letting him make you think that way

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<v Speaker 1>of yourself. You maybe have gone through different shit than

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<v Speaker 1>he has gone through, for sure, because he is in

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<v Speaker 1>and out of jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't go to say you haven't been through anything.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't talk like that, don't you know? And it is

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<v Speaker 1>not what he say is the way he says it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I do understand that could be a point

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because you're just like, look, don't tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what the fuck I know.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't tell you what you know. And yes, you

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<v Speaker 2>do want to be supportive.

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<v Speaker 1>You do want to feel like your man is confident

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<v Speaker 1>in you, just as you're confident in yourself. I am

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful, black, educated woman, and yeah, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>queen by my side.

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<v Speaker 2>She's smart, she knows some shit. You know. We both

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<v Speaker 2>don't know everything, but we know a little about a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I always say. I don't know everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know a little about a lot, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So I don't want to ever tell

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<v Speaker 1>someone to leave someone unless they're being physically harmed or

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<v Speaker 1>mentally abused. But I do feel like he has to

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<v Speaker 1>take a break from the relationship and get his own

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<v Speaker 1>self together. Mentally, there's something he's battling and something that

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<v Speaker 1>is weighing on his heart and over his head about

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<v Speaker 1>his own life. I strongly feel that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that is. You've been with him for three years.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been with him longer, so you would know. Then

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<v Speaker 1>before y'all got together, I imagine that you guys were just friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I can't assume I don't know, But

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<v Speaker 1>you know him more than I know him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know him more than the listeners know him.

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<v Speaker 1>You would know if there was something that he was

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<v Speaker 1>suffering with, or that was something that he was just

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<v Speaker 1>mentally battling. And unfortunately we as girlfriends can always help

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<v Speaker 1>our men out with that. They have to get professional help.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to actually go and seek help on their own,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're just running away from their problems. They're masking

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<v Speaker 1>their problems and then internally shunning them, like internally shutting down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then projecting what they're going through on others. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's not good either, because now you're blaming everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>for your issues.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that's what he does.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can bet you it's very very difficult for him,

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<v Speaker 1>or very rare that he accepts accountability for shit that

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<v Speaker 1>he does, or you know, just anything that he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Why he's in jail while you guys argue why he

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<v Speaker 1>treats you the way that he does things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should take a break from a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>have him get hisself together. He in jail now, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>he got nothing but time and books to read. Get

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<v Speaker 1>yourself together? Why he on the inside and he need

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<v Speaker 1>to get hisself together? Why he's away from you, and

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<v Speaker 1>then revisit it. But I don't think that it's really healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you've been in this for three years and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just now.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting to fuck with you. Oh baby, listen, you're young.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be doing so many other things right now

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<v Speaker 1>instead of trying to pick a man's fucking brain apart

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<v Speaker 1>to see why he doesn't think you're smart. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>You're twenty one, all right. Get yourself together and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>he gets hisself together. Check back in with me, girl

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<v Speaker 1>now listen. That is the end of this episode, y'all.

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