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Speaker 1: It is a Monday, a very very busy Monday. Half

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Speaker 1: dozen ugly blowouts, but some defining moments with the top

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Speaker 1: players and the top teams. We're live in Chicago. It's

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Speaker 1: The Herd one hour from now. Where Colin was right,

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was wrong, There's a lot of both.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: There are certain teams that are good all year, but

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Speaker 1: people they don't have the right feel they're right. Look,

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Speaker 1: they're winning a lot of close games. I think people

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Speaker 1: have finally come to terms with two teams in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: the Bears and the Denver Broncos. You may want to

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Speaker 1: stop doubting the Denver Broncos. This Green Bay defense elite.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley defensive coordinator elite, and Bonnicks and Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: carved up this Green Bay defense He's athletic, he's clever,

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Speaker 1: he's deceptive. He doesn't get sacked. Sean Payton has been

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Speaker 1: texting me for two years. I got myself a star.

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Speaker 1: The headline here can't just be Packers lose Watson and

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. Yeah, it's awful. Jeff Hafley in the last

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Speaker 1: two years, his faced CJ. Stroud goff hurts. Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: Bonnicks in the last two years is the only quarterback

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense has faced that's thrown four touchdown passes

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Speaker 1: to four different wide rous. So too many people I

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Speaker 1: said this last week have just sort of made up

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Speaker 1: their mind on bow Knicks. I think he reminds me

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Speaker 1: of a right handed Steve Young. He is way way

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Speaker 1: more athletic than anybody gives him credit for. Dad was

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Speaker 1: a coach. Never get sacked, Never get sacked. I've said

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Speaker 1: this about Kayleb Williams. Doesn't throw many picks. Bow Knicks

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Speaker 1: never get sacked. And since he didn't fit in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: he's twenty two to nine with more touchdown passes in

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Speaker 1: that span than Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: And remember this, bo Knicks in a division with great

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators like Jesse Minter and Steve Spagnola. So Denver

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Speaker 1: was down nine in the third quarter, and they needed

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks, the second year quarterback from Oregon, to be

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Speaker 1: a star. And that's exactly what bow Knicks was. Three

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Speaker 1: long drives, playmaking, rolling left, rolling right, deceptive, big time

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Speaker 1: throws up the sideline, great on fourth down again, eight

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Speaker 1: for twelve. Throwing downfield, that's always been the knock. Well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't throw the ball down the field did yesterday

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Speaker 1: against arguably the best defense he's faced all year. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what he needs to do to impress people.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I mean a lot

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Speaker 1: of times it's first impressions and his first month in

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Speaker 1: and then the biggest arm his first month, five weeks

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Little choppy, Get over it. He's really

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Speaker 1: really good. Well, he wouldn't be that good without Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, wouldn't have been that good without Jimmy Johnson. Marino,

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Speaker 1: maybe not that good without Don Shula. I mean, every

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Speaker 1: great court. Tom Brady probably wouldn't win all those rings

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Speaker 1: without Belichick early in his career.

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Speaker 3: You got to get over that.

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Speaker 1: The kid is top five and wins top six and

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Speaker 1: total touchdowns and he's third in dropbacks. They're not babysitting.

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Speaker 1: This is not Big Ben early years in the NFL

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Speaker 1: whole playbook, motions sets forty throws in a really good

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator division. So the Denver rosters excellent. We know

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Speaker 1: that the coach is excellent. The only question has been, well,

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Speaker 1: what do you do with bow Knicks? Well, you know

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Speaker 1: he has twenty seven touchdowns. You know who else does?

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Speaker 1: Drake May? In my opinion, Drake May was talked about

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Speaker 1: a week ago as the MVP candidate Bo Nicks. You're

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Speaker 1: not sure about I don't know what I watched yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It's time to be sure. Add this, exactly fifty percent

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Speaker 1: of the wins Denver's wins have come on a game

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Speaker 1: you define that the it quality. He is really good

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton on his young quarterback star.

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Speaker 4: The thing about him is like he loves playing, you know,

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Speaker 3: For Green Bay, it's just one of those years.

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Speaker 1: Kraft gets hurt, Christian Watson, who's been banged up since

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Speaker 1: Bay is still good, but it's hard to lose those

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Speaker 1: But I mean, yesterday was a game I thought there

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Speaker 1: had a great first half. But Denver and they've done

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Speaker 1: this how many times they've done it this year, eight

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Speaker 1: third quarter and they take over games. Got to stop

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Speaker 3: A lot of stars got hurt yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Before that, this year didn't feel right for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: and the year didn't necessarily feel right for Patrick Mahomes. Yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was clearly the best quarterback on the field,

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Speaker 1: and Mahomes and Andy Reid and Chris Jones and Travis

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Speaker 1: Kelcey kind of feels like they all got really old,

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Speaker 1: really fast, and it's hard when you draft at the

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Speaker 1: Rams will go out and get a Devonte Adams. You

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Speaker 1: hard to get him in the draft. So Kansas City

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Speaker 1: They have had a ton of success, but they're trying

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Speaker 1: to they're struggling to develop new characters. The way I'd

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Speaker 1: put it, they just don't have enough elite players. It's

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Speaker 1: don't blame the coaches. Small Hulk isn't isn't working quite

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Speaker 1: like they thought. I mean, here's where Kansas City is

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Speaker 1: foot out the retirement door. I mean, that's where that's

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Speaker 1: where Kansas City is right now, and you start looking

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Speaker 3: Denver's roster.

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Speaker 1: And I said this, the reason most dynasties last isn't

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Speaker 1: the minute Texas came in and Kirby Smart went to Georgia,

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Speaker 3: And I know it's hard to.

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Speaker 1: Take away Grandpa's keys when he's the only guy in

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Speaker 1: town that's got a ride, right, He's gonna drive everybody around.

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Speaker 1: But it's this is the reality of what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's not pretty. And I've said this for the last

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Speaker 1: three weeks. I've asked every guest rebuild or retool. I

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Speaker 1: think it's more of a rebuild I mean their second

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Speaker 1: They got a really good corner Mahomes down surgery. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a bit of a rebuild now. The good

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Speaker 1: news is they're getting more draft picks up near the

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Speaker 1: Wink wink, nudge, nudge, and they keep that draft pick

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Speaker 1: moving up. That's what they need. That's what it feels like.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, it hasn't felt right the last

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Speaker 1: three seasons. They're sixteenth in scoring and seventeenth in yards

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Speaker 1: it kind of like even though even Vegas doesn't know

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Speaker 1: what to do with him. Yesterday they were a four

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Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Chargers were the better team

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Speaker 1: and the better quarterback. And here is Chris Jones finding

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Speaker 6: We're all competitors here, especially me, you know, especially with

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Speaker 6: so much as state. It was tough. I think the

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Speaker 6: score was thirteen and thirteen, thirteen and ten. So still

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Speaker 6: have a fighting chance? Are we out of the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: We are? Okay.

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Speaker 1: You kind of knew when they let Joe tooney Go

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Speaker 1: was going to be bumpy. But going back to what

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Speaker 1: It just feels Lebron dominated the East for years because

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Speaker 3: It doesn't quite feel the same.

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Speaker 1: So I think if I was Kansas City, I'd give

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Speaker 1: the old guys a day off. I'd try to secure

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Speaker 1: that top seven to eight pick, rebuild quickly. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Kansas City at eleven. Rams have the Atlanta pick. That

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Speaker 1: almost seems unfair. They're ten with their stack roster. But

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Speaker 1: this thing is, we've been kind of convincing ourselves. Even

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Speaker 1: the guys in the dead Desert Vegas have been convincing themselves.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not that far off. I think it's

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Speaker 1: more of a rebuild than people think. J Max, you

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Speaker 1: were right on that from the very beginning. I had

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Speaker 1: him as a wild card team. You didn't think they

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Speaker 1: and that's what backup left tackles. So it's just a reality.

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Speaker 1: This dynasty thing is really really hard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they had a great run and it's over. And

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Speaker 5: I think the real question Colin is and I think

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Speaker 5: you alluded to it. Okay, so you got a bunch

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Speaker 5: of old guys. Let's say Kelsey retires and they move off,

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Speaker 5: Chris Jones, what about Andy Reid? Is he sticking around

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Speaker 5: for a long rebuild? Because this is probably not like

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Speaker 5: you said last week, Hey, we got a little touch

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Speaker 5: ups here and there. They've got like half the rosters

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Speaker 5: probably getting turned over. If you look at their salary

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Speaker 5: cap calling it's not pretty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, next year, I think they have the I think

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Speaker 1: they're second most over the cap of any team. Now

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Speaker 1: can to manipulate the cap and the but this happens.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's always been a marvel that Brady

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Speaker 1: Go get him, Go get them off one great Thursday game.

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Speaker 1: Much like the Denver Broncos people, didn't quite know what

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Speaker 1: I've said this, Ben Johnson is the best first time

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Speaker 1: And here's the coach.

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Speaker 8: After, I think we got a really good big picture

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Speaker 3: Not really, We're just we're on to the next one.

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Speaker 8: It's uh ten ten's great, but it's not enough.

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Speaker 1: So much in this sport, we talk about it all

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Speaker 5: Well, let's go to the Philadelphia Eagles. Colin Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 5: the Raiders. It's good to hear someone in that locker

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Speaker 1: I almost look at Raider games is they don't count.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is Cincinnati yesterday looked like they almost quit.

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Speaker 3: Listen, it's a nice win. You take it.

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Speaker 1: They're easily the most talented team in the division, and

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Speaker 5: Well, we could take some positives. Hurtz was running more

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Speaker 5: it was a great win for the Eagles. The Dallas

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I would take the Eagles in that game

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Speaker 5: And I think the Packers, I don't want to talk.

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Speaker 1: It's really the Rams, right yeah, And I I just

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see the Seahawks and the Rams

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Speaker 5: Top of the AFC, without questions, without question, totally next story,

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Speaker 10: Don't go number when you get these losses. You know,

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Speaker 10: well we'll just like it should it should burn it you,

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Speaker 10: what probably the top of the NFC looks like right now.

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Speaker 10: That's that's them, you know, And so now you know,

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Speaker 3: It looks like.

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Speaker 1: Listen, that was a really good swing. I think what

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Speaker 5: I was impressed the Rams. It looked like at halftime

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Speaker 3: The Rams will go in and.

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Speaker 1: Dominate a lot of teams, but you'll be holding on

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Speaker 5: End, and we should have talked about the Devonte Adams hamstring.

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Speaker 5: Still no word on how long he's going to be out.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's a couple of weeks a month.

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Speaker 5: Hamstring's are tricky. Colin a soft tissue. It's dicey. They're

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Speaker 5: not going to have him, probably against Seattle this week.

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Speaker 1: He's probably back for the playoffs. I think you probably

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Speaker 1: they have enough depth offensively, especially at tight end and

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Speaker 1: running back. Blake Corham is starting to pop a little

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Speaker 1: bit the fo he looks. He looks really quick. So

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Speaker 1: I think you can get away without Davonte for three weeks,

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Speaker 1: but you'll need him in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Listen, it's not victory lap Monday, but two guys

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Speaker 5: on this show did call the Lions pullback losing Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 5: and we were taking heat for it the first month

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Speaker 5: of the season, right, but first six weeks reality said

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Speaker 5: in Detroit, you gotta fix that offensive coordinator spot. Final story, Colin,

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Speaker 5: Let's go to my guy Barock party. A spectacular performance,

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Speaker 5: I mean, downright heroic. Perdy was just masterful. Three d

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Speaker 5: and thirty nine total yards, three tunnies. Niners scored on

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Speaker 5: their first five possessions and dispatch the Titans. Listen, they're

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Speaker 5: a quiet ten and four and I think not not

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Speaker 5: a lot being talked about the Niners because of all

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Speaker 5: the injuries.

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Speaker 3: Coaching of the year in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean listen, let's be route. When you lose Kittle,

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Speaker 5: they lost party for like half the season.

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Speaker 3: War Bosa, how are you doing this?

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Speaker 1: Just great coach? I mean you I watched last night

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Speaker 1: Minnesota in Dallas. What Minnesota's offensive coaches have done to

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy in three to four weeks. I mean he

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Speaker 1: looked like a complete bust and last night he's playing

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Speaker 1: with a ton of confidence.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't just learn how to throw. That's coaching. San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: This staff if they gave out coaching staff of the year.

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Speaker 1: Considering the injuries, it goes to the Niners.

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Speaker 5: I saw as stat that is troubling for Sala's defense

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Speaker 5: is that Tennessee had one of their best success rates

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Speaker 5: on the ground all season. Yeah, I mean, listen, what's

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Speaker 5: the ceiling for the Niners if they can't stop the

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Speaker 5: run of Tennessee. Like, there are some concerns on my

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Speaker 5: end with the Niners their offense, though, They're gonna keep

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Speaker 5: it in playoff games.

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, I mean they feel like a team

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Speaker 1: capable of winning a playoff game.

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Speaker 5: Can they get to the Super Bowl? No?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they can get to the conference championship

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Speaker 1: with that defense. Remember, when you go to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: you're facing the best coaches. That's not what Tennessee has.

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Speaker 1: You're facing the very best coach. I mean, yesterday, here's

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Speaker 1: Kansas City reeling.

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Speaker 3: Has to win.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Jim Harbaugh shows up with Herbert and Jesse Minner.

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Speaker 1: They can't move the ball again. So again, the playoffs

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Speaker 1: just look different. Young teams get nervous. I mean, Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams first playoff game, it's gonna feel different. So and

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Speaker 1: that's why people say, well what about Denver? Let me

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Speaker 1: tell you something. Denver's got an advantage. It's called the altitude.

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Speaker 1: And Sean Payton in the playoffs. So the playoffs though it.

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Speaker 5: Well, actually that's a great point. Niners Bears in the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: I'm riding with the Niners.

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Speaker 9: In that one.

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Speaker 3: I'm riding with the Bears.

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Speaker 5: Quick brock perty our staff built, yes, built a graphic

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Speaker 5: for brock Purty. Colin through his first fifty starts, he

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Speaker 5: is second in NFL history, NFL history in passer rating,

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Speaker 5: second in NFL history in yards per attempt, and fourth

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Speaker 5: in NFL history in completion percent.

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Speaker 3: He looked great yesterday.

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Speaker 5: He looked fifty starts. That's not just yesterday, fifty starts

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Speaker 5: five to zero. My friend Patrick Mahomes, I don't know

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Speaker 5: where he is on here. I don't know where bo

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Speaker 5: Nicks is not sniffing top ten on this stuff.

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Speaker 7: My guy.

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Speaker 1: J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and

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Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by the.

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Speaker 2: Heard line news.

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Speaker 1: When you never rely on athleticism, right, and you're an

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Speaker 1: old quarterback and you come back and you're a little

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Speaker 1: less athletic, what's it mean? I mean they've done studies

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Speaker 1: on people who are born blind and they have a

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Speaker 1: greater heightened sense of smell and touch and feel because

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Speaker 1: they have to. So Philip Rivers has always been really

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Speaker 1: good pre snap, the thing Tom Bradyoways talks about. Tom's

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Speaker 1: always like, you can get yourself out of mistakes before

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Speaker 1: the ball is snapped because you know what's coming. So

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. I said this on last week's show. I said,

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Speaker 1: what if he's just like the old Philip Rivers. He

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Speaker 1: can still throw it. He was the least athletic quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league when he left. Well, I watched yesterday

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Speaker 1: pre snap, toughness, accuracy. I mean, I don't know, he's fine.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll maybe he'll be tired next week, won't get

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Speaker 1: to nap in before the game.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He looked fine to me, despite the fact there were

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Speaker 1: nine field goals in that game. And let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: let's be fair about this. Sam Darnold did have the

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Speaker 1: game winning drive. Sam Donald didn't throw an interception. Seattle

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Speaker 1: came in with a super conservative game plan. We talked

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Speaker 1: about that last week. Seattle didn't want to give Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers a win. They were conservative, no big risks. Seattle

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Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of penalties. They were very efficient,

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Speaker 1: very bland, very vanilla, and Seattle won the game. But

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Speaker 1: the whole Philip Rivers thing, I mean, he got rid

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Speaker 1: of the ball quickly, he got the offense in the

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Speaker 1: right spot. So much this is what Tom Brady has

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Speaker 1: been banging on for two years on Fox. So much

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Speaker 1: of this sport for quarterbacks isn't running around. You gotta

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Speaker 1: win from the pocket, and you gotta win before the

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Speaker 1: ball is snapped.

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Speaker 3: That's what he did. Have them on track.

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Speaker 1: I have said, I like their roster, their old line

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Speaker 1: give him time to throw. So I thought it was

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Speaker 1: I mean, again, if if there are certain professional athletes,

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Speaker 1: if they don't relying on athleticism, I saw Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: last week on Thursday, was chopping it up. I saw

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Speaker 1: Brady at forty four Stafford couldn't even practice in the

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Speaker 1: camp because of.

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Speaker 3: A bad back.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you master the pocket, if you're if

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Speaker 1: you've seen every defense, you're you're gonna be okay. And

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Speaker 1: here's Philip Rivers after a pretty I mean, it didn't

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Speaker 1: throw for a lot of yards, but it was a

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Speaker 1: pretty impressive performance.

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Speaker 3: It was a blast.

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Speaker 11: It was a blast, but obviously the most was now

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Speaker 11: our disappointment, right disappointment. You know, I'm this isn't about me.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 11: We got a team that was scrapping like crazy to

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Speaker 11: trying to stay alive and get in a postseason. If

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Speaker 11: I can if stay healthy like I feel good, you know,

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Speaker 11: and it's gonna get better as we go.

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Speaker 3: But the catch and that is we got to win.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't really matter if it's getting better as we

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Speaker 11: go if we don't win, because it's going to be

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Speaker 11: over three weeks.

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Speaker 3: And this is something again that we spent.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I love that Bo Nix and Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: are athletic. I think in your first three years in

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Speaker 1: the league, as you're learning defenses, if you can augment

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Speaker 1: your pocket stuff, picking first downs up with your legs,

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Speaker 1: that's great. But by like late year three or year

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Speaker 1: four or five in this league, you gotta be good

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Speaker 1: from the bucket. You gotta be good pre snap if

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Speaker 1: you want to hoist trophies. Here's Tom Brady on.

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Speaker 12: That we just exploited the weak parts of defense, and

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Speaker 12: the problem in the NFL today is guys aren't doing that.

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Speaker 12: Guys aren't being developed through college and then when they

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Speaker 12: get to the pro they're so far behind that the

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Speaker 12: coach feels like, okay, I need to control this game

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Speaker 12: from the sideline. So the teams that I think have

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Speaker 12: a great advantage going forward are the ones with the

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Speaker 12: older quarterbacks who the coaches do give them the autonomy

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Speaker 12: to say, Okay, whatever you see out there, you can

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Speaker 12: change the play.

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Speaker 3: You can get us in the right play.

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Speaker 10: We trust you.

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what the Colts did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, considering there were nine field goals,

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Speaker 1: it was pingpong at the end. I found that to

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Speaker 1: be a wildly entertaining game. Seattle came in, only allowed

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Speaker 1: one sack, you know, not a lot of penalties. Darnold

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Speaker 1: didn't throw a pick. You knew Seattle was going to

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Speaker 1: come in with the Rams on deck Thursday. Not unveil

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Speaker 1: the playbook, try to stay healthy, run it a lot,

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Speaker 1: a lot of completions, get out of this game with

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Speaker 1: no injuries. And that's what Seattle did. But I thought

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Speaker 1: it was great. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. Top of the Hour,

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Speaker 1: Albert Breer stops by, we may have some coaching changes

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Speaker 1: this week or next. The latest on the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific.

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Speaker 5: What's better than a saturd? How about a Super Saturday

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Speaker 5: with an NFL doubleheader. First it's Eagles versus Commanders, then

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Speaker 5: the Packers take on the Bears for control of the

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Speaker 5: NFC North. Pregame coverage begins at four pm Eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: I've compared Denver and the Bears a lot where nobody

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Speaker 1: quite believes them. They both have young quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: year two that are hyper athletic. It is amazing. One

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Speaker 1: of the great things about the NFL. You can't really

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Speaker 1: do this in the NBA because players that come into

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Speaker 1: the NBA through the draft, you know, they're usually not

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Speaker 1: quite ready to be dominant. Also, a coach has limitations

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Speaker 1: in basketball. Ben Johnson has no limitations. College football coaches

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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti has made Indiana power and so one of

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Speaker 1: the great things about football college or pro if you

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Speaker 1: get the right coach.

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Speaker 3: I mean, think about this.

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears have been mostly lost offensively since the mid seventies,

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Speaker 1: and now they're excellent. Like it just takes the coach

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Speaker 1: and hopefully you get a good quarterback preferably young, so

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Speaker 1: you can afford other great players on the roster.

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Speaker 3: But it is, it's kind of magic.

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Speaker 1: In baseball, there's limitations based on how much your owner

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Speaker 1: is going to spend. In basketball, there's limitations that drafts

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Speaker 1: a bunch of nineteen twenty year old kids not ready

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Speaker 1: to dominate. It's amazing when you look at Chicago last year.

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Speaker 1: In Chicago this year, it's like two different franchises. Get

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Speaker 1: the coach right, get the staff right, elevate the young quarterback,

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Speaker 1: spend some money in the right places interior o line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Denver in Chicago a month ago.

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Speaker 1: We were like, oh no, I don't know, I buy

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Speaker 1: both all right.

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Speaker 3: Dallas loses last night.

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Speaker 1: They had extra time to prepare, so they were inexcusably

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Speaker 1: awful on third down, and there's very there's a handful

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Speaker 1: of coaching staffs in this league where you've got a

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Speaker 1: great head coach and one all star coordinator. England, Rams,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, Green Bay, Chicago. I think Minnesota is one

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Speaker 1: of those teams. We don't think eber Flus and Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 1: Jerry's always gone cheap on coaches. He's never truly respected coaches,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like Parcels and Jimmy Johnson. Those guys

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Speaker 1: wouldn't pander to Jerry Jones and they left and they're

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Speaker 1: both all time coaches. So you know, it's been some

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Speaker 1: chan Gaily and Brian Schottenheimer. I'm Mike McCarthy had a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but I feel like the Cowboys are six

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Speaker 1: seven and one. The over under in Vegas was like

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Speaker 1: seven to seven and a half macro. This is what

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Speaker 1: they are. They've got one win over a winning team Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: which has been hot and cold and can't quite find

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Speaker 1: their right way. I think what you watched last night

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Speaker 1: was elite coaching in Minnesota. JJ McCarthy was, I mean

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Speaker 1: lost a month ago, looked like an absolute first round bust.

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Speaker 3: That kid is now playing.

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Speaker 1: With so much much confidence now, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think the coaching staff in Minnesota love that dance, but

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Speaker 1: he is playing with a ton of confidence. That's coaching.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy didn't just learn how to throw football. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about it. Coaching is like forty percent in the sport.

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Speaker 1: But a great coordinator, Robert sallin San Francisco, what a

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Speaker 1: year he's having. And I just thought on display last

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Speaker 1: night was what a great staff can do to a

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Speaker 1: struggling quarterback and what a mediocre staff can do when

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Speaker 1: you have a quarterback as good as Dak Prescott, extra rest,

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Speaker 1: nice weapons, Dallas was awful on third down, wasn't good situationally. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Sean Payton gets empowered by his owner, right

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Speaker 1: like you hope the best owners want a head coach

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Speaker 1: to be a leader of an organization. It feels like

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Speaker 1: Jerry wants his coach to be an employee of his organization,

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Speaker 1: and so I think six seven and one, it's what

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Speaker 1: they are.

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Speaker 3: Here's Jerry after.

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Speaker 9: We certainly didn't think we'd be here in this kind

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Speaker 9: of shape with three games ago and have be behind

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Speaker 9: the eight ball the way we are. It's very disappointing.

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Speaker 9: I'm really obviously very disappointed for our fans. I'm disappointed

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Speaker 9: for these players. I didn't expect that. I thought we

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Speaker 9: could come out here and on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 9: make a better accounting of ourself. Minnesota did the best

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Speaker 9: job out there today on both.

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Speaker 3: Sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's time to spend twelve to fifteen million

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Speaker 1: on a coach. I mean, think of what a mess.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball inherited with the Chargers, they were I mean,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, they had a totally broken culture.

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Speaker 3: Two to three weeks later.

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Speaker 1: Players are talking about it's a new day. Look at

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Speaker 1: what Sean Payton inherited that cap hit from hell in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Like the reality with NFL coaching, Like Matt Lafleur a

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Speaker 1: month ago had a broken offense. You gotta fix stuff

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Speaker 1: in two weeks. You don't get an off season, and

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches are really good at it. It is remarkable

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Speaker 1: to watch JJ McCarthy now from three to four weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was gone.

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Speaker 1: They looked like Jared Goff's rookie year. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna work at all. So I thought he

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Speaker 1: played to me. It wasn't the arm strength. He just

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Speaker 1: played with confidence. He played like he had a really

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Speaker 1: good coach in his ear, slowly patiently dialing up the

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Speaker 1: right things that he would be good at. The play

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Speaker 1: calling was excellent, situational football at its best. So I

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Speaker 1: do think you just get to a point. We've said

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Speaker 1: this for years. The Lakers were a mom and pop shop.

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Speaker 1: Finding the bus family sold, it feels different. The new

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Speaker 1: owners aren't beholding the Lebron It's Lucas team, and I

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Speaker 1: feel the Cowboys little insular mom and pop shop. I've

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Speaker 1: liked a lot of the deals they have done, the

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Speaker 1: Quinn Williams deal like, but but you got to spend

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Speaker 1: money on a coach. Look around right now what Vrabel

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Speaker 1: did now? People could save Rabel lost yesterday. New England's

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Speaker 1: still honestly in a rebuild. Their offensive lines missing a

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Speaker 1: couple starters. They're all line in the second half. Couldn't

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Speaker 1: do anything. It's not a knock on Brian Schotenneimer. He

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Speaker 1: wouldn't a candidate be a head coach for fourteen years,

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Speaker 1: and eventually in the NFL Week fourteen, with Week fifteen, Week.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen, the truth comes out.

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Speaker 1: And there's just too many great coaching staffs, especially in

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Speaker 1: the NFC, the Bears, the Vikings, the Rams, the Niners, Seattle.

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Speaker 1: It's just the standard is way up here, and I

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Speaker 1: just don't feel like Jerry is willing to spend big

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Speaker 1: money and empower a Harbaugh of rabel A Sean Payton.

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Speaker 3: I mean, never forget Mike.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy had this job and walked away on his terms.

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Speaker 1: Almost never see that in the NFL, where a coach

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Speaker 1: making eight figures is.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm out.

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Speaker 1: You got a good quarterback, got a star receiver, got

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Speaker 1: a star edge rusher, I'm out. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: fair to say it's time to step up. The world

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Speaker 1: has changed, got it. This has never been a coach

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Speaker 1: has never been more valuable. And all you have to

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Speaker 1: do is go look at Chicago, j Matt Colin Wright,

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Speaker 1: Colin wrong, next hour. Some devastating injuries, obviously, Mahomes that's

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Speaker 1: probably about a nine month rehab. Micah Parsons a non

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Speaker 1: contact injury. That's tough because he felt like that was

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Speaker 1: one of the better trades. Green Bay doesn't make a

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Speaker 1: lot of those big trades. They don't do that a lot,

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Speaker 1: So it was a bit of a dice roll. They

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Speaker 1: gave up a couple of first round picks.

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Speaker 5: They can't get pressure without him Colling, I mean, and

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Speaker 5: offensively without Watson. They had fifty five yards from the

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Speaker 5: early third quarter when he went out, I mean, they

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Speaker 5: were up twenty three to fourteen. Hit the ball, Jalen

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Speaker 5: Hurts tries to throw a bomb. That's trying out, Jellen Hurts,

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Speaker 5: Jordan Love, Jordan Love sorry and Sir Tan intercepts it

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Speaker 5: and lambs on Watson. Yeah, their offense did nothing the

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Speaker 5: rest of the way and no pressure without Micah. I

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Speaker 5: think they're cooked.

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Speaker 3: Tonight.

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Speaker 1: Dolphin Steelers, I think Miami's gonna be pesky. The Finn

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Speaker 1: suddenly like that cold weather. Some coaching changes in the

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Speaker 1: offing power two neck