WEBVTT - Media Mash: Expectations 0:00:01.890 --> 0:00:04.610 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys.com and the 0:00:04.630 --> 0:00:13.650 Dallas Cowboys football club. This is media match, a round 0:00:13.710 --> 0:00:17.530 table of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and offering sizzling take 0:00:17.570 --> 0:00:20.790 on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys brought to 0:00:20.810 --> 0:00:24.540 you by seat geek, the primary ticketing partner of the 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:25.770 Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:25.930 --> 0:00:28.180 Now your host, Newey Scruggs. 0:00:34.530 --> 0:00:38.080 Welcome to the Media Mash, everybody. This is a show 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:39.500 sponsored by SeatGeek. 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:41.580 It's Edward of the Hall of Famer here. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.959 We've got Chuck Taylor, former Cowboy beat writer and the author. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.160 I'm merely Nui Scruggs. We're going to carry on the conversation. 0:00:47.190 --> 0:00:49.830 Nick Harris with the day off. He's working on a 0:00:49.909 --> 0:00:52.810 deep dive piece for the Star-Teller. 0:00:52.830 --> 0:00:54.930 Does he know what happens, what the history is here 0:00:54.950 --> 0:00:55.830 when people take a day off? 0:00:56.970 --> 0:01:00.780 I see his check with your frat brother. RQQ to 0:01:00.900 --> 0:01:04.150 the good brothers. I tell you, man. You guys just 0:01:04.190 --> 0:01:06.190 want to go low. Why? 0:01:06.209 --> 0:01:07.750 As soon as possible. 0:01:07.950 --> 0:01:08.610 Why do we? 0:01:08.630 --> 0:01:10.030 We don't want to wait for the C segment. 0:01:10.250 --> 0:01:11.520 Really? 0:01:11.700 --> 0:01:15.360 Why are we doing this? We can because we can. 0:01:15.420 --> 0:01:16.920 Why are we doing this? Okay. 0:01:17.180 --> 0:01:17.500 Okay. 0:01:18.250 --> 0:01:20.230 We check receipts on this podcast. 0:01:21.709 --> 0:01:25.770 Dirtiest work is done here. Dirtiest work is done here. 0:01:25.790 --> 0:01:27.450 Can I give you the Cowboys practice report here as 0:01:27.470 --> 0:01:29.350 they get ready to face the Green Bay Packers on 0:01:29.490 --> 0:01:33.880 NBC's Sunday Night Football? Did not practice today. That would 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:39.440 be Kobe Durant. That would be Drew Shelton. Limited today 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.220 with a hamstring in Mario Novosone. Limited today with a 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:44.899 knee is Amir Speed. 0:01:45.890 --> 0:01:48.350 Both were working with Britt Brown, from my observation. 0:01:48.370 --> 0:01:49.090 It's never a pleasure. 0:01:49.310 --> 0:01:49.530 Right. 0:01:49.590 --> 0:01:51.770 How's Porter doing with his megalitis? 0:01:54.170 --> 0:01:55.030 Joey Porter, full. 0:01:55.050 --> 0:01:56.010 He's back, full. 0:01:56.530 --> 0:01:57.130 Oh, okay. 0:01:57.310 --> 0:01:57.650 Full. 0:01:57.950 --> 0:02:00.970 I never doubted you. Vaughn Miller, full. After a rest day. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.660 They may need a veteran rest day. It's okay. 0:02:03.700 --> 0:02:04.840 Vaughn Miller after a rest day? 0:02:06.180 --> 0:02:07.340 He's had a rest couple of weeks. 0:02:08.260 --> 0:02:12.079 Jonathan Ford for the Green Bay Packers defensive tackle. Calf injury, 0:02:12.139 --> 0:02:16.100 did not practice. Javon Hargrave, defensive tackle with an Achilles, 0:02:16.139 --> 0:02:19.720 did not practice. Sky Moore, wide receiver with an ankle, 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.820 did not practice. Benjamin St. 0:02:22.860 --> 0:02:24.880 Justy. How do I pronounce that? Justy? 0:02:24.900 --> 0:02:26.260 I can't remember. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:27.060 My boy Benjamin. 0:02:27.260 --> 0:02:27.810 Yeah, Ben. 0:02:28.030 --> 0:02:32.850 Big Ben. Hamstring did not practice. So those were the 0:02:32.870 --> 0:02:38.300 did not practices, but a lot of limited practices. But 0:02:38.620 --> 0:02:40.600 those of you who did not practice, and so, of course, 0:02:40.620 --> 0:02:42.000 tomorrow we'll get the whole thing about. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:43.200 Who's out? 0:02:43.220 --> 0:02:46.380 Who's in and out? Let's ask, go around the table. 0:02:46.419 --> 0:02:49.240 So Christian Parker spoke to the meeting today. Says he 0:02:49.340 --> 0:02:50.970 thinks he'll be on the sideline. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.269 Take that, Mr. Jones. Do what I want to. Either 0:02:55.290 --> 0:02:56.210 that or he's being spiteful. 0:02:57.430 --> 0:02:59.430 On Tuesday, Jerry said he's in the booth. Either that 0:02:59.450 --> 0:03:00.370 or Jerry just got it wrong. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.220 So, Tuesday, Jerry says he's in the booth. Wednesday, Shotty 0:03:04.260 --> 0:03:07.600 says it's not decided. Today's Thursday, he says he'll probably. 0:03:07.620 --> 0:03:09.900 Likely be in the. Likely be on the field. 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.019 He's like a big guy. He left himself just a 0:03:12.020 --> 0:03:12.459 little window. 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:15.440 So, Friday on 105.3 The Fan on the K & 0:03:15.100 --> 0:03:15.880 C Masterpiece. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:16.840 Jerry, we'll talk again. 0:03:16.860 --> 0:03:17.990 Yes. 0:03:18.030 --> 0:03:20.029 What do we expect? What are we thinking here, guys? 0:03:20.050 --> 0:03:22.049 I write the checks. He'll coach from where I say 0:03:22.070 --> 0:03:25.680 he's coaching in. And where did I say Wednesday? 0:03:25.700 --> 0:03:29.570 So that's my question. Where's Parker going to be at, guy? 0:03:29.590 --> 0:03:29.989 What do we think? 0:03:30.010 --> 0:03:30.730 He's going to be on the field. 0:03:30.750 --> 0:03:32.130 Yeah, sounds like it. 0:03:32.669 --> 0:03:36.150 And we haven't seen Mike Pettin yet. Two days, he 0:03:36.190 --> 0:03:39.750 hasn't been out on the field during media availability. I 0:03:39.850 --> 0:03:45.300 asked Tad Carper, the PR wizard executive here, I said, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.360 could I run upstairs and just take a quick photo 0:03:48.420 --> 0:03:49.960 of him in his office, kind of for proof of 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:55.520 life purposes? That didn't happen either. But we do believe 0:03:55.540 --> 0:03:58.580 he's here. Players are talking like they've seen him and 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:00.270 spoken to him and he's addressed them. 0:04:00.770 --> 0:04:02.710 We feel like we need to get a wellness check 0:04:02.750 --> 0:04:08.420 on this. Call the Frisco police. We need a wellness check. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:09.500 Stop, man. 0:04:09.620 --> 0:04:12.130 Christian Parker said he's been doing a deep dive. He 0:04:12.150 --> 0:04:14.070 was here in the spring, so, you know, he's not 0:04:14.110 --> 0:04:15.430 like he didn't know what's going on. 0:04:15.550 --> 0:04:17.330 Yes, it was Kenny Clark said that. 0:04:17.370 --> 0:04:20.070 He's been watching film and studying and all that stuff. 0:04:20.380 --> 0:04:23.640 But I think the whole thing of people downplaying the 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:28.180 significance of this is ridiculous. What other team in the 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:32.200 NFL this season– during the year has gone out and 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:35.919 hired a former defensive coordinator and head coach to come 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.870 in and be a quote-unquote sounding board for their first-time 0:04:39.910 --> 0:04:40.790 defensive coordinator? 0:04:42.990 --> 0:04:43.350 Nobody. 0:04:43.750 --> 0:04:47.290 Okay. So, but, no, I mean, I think it's a 0:04:47.310 --> 0:04:51.409 move of desperation. Yeah. And that's okay because you are desperate. 0:04:51.670 --> 0:04:54.650 So is trading for Joey Porter. So was a players-only 0:04:54.730 --> 0:04:55.750 meeting on defensive. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.520 Those are all signs of desperation. And, you know, the 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.909 thing about– Let me see. How do I say this 0:05:03.110 --> 0:05:06.180 so I don't offend too many people? You know, real 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.140 beat writers, real people who cover the beat, not cover 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.180 the team, because there's a difference. People who cover the 0:05:12.220 --> 0:05:15.960 team bounce from big group interview to big group interview 0:05:15.980 --> 0:05:19.810 to big group interview and produce whatever content they produce. 0:05:20.370 --> 0:05:22.969 People who cover the team, while they're having a big group, 0:05:23.230 --> 0:05:26.030 they're usually off there slinking around interviewing somebody else to 0:05:26.070 --> 0:05:28.940 get the real scoop. They make phone calls. They exchange 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.539 text messages with people in the front office, the scouting department, 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.560 other people around the league to find out. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:34.419 What the real deal is. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.920 Those people, the real beat writers, not the content creators, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.140 because they got different jobs and different roles. 0:05:41.260 --> 0:05:41.800 And they're not here. 0:05:42.420 --> 0:05:46.390 Yeah, that part. But they're out here being skeptical of 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.789 the whole situation, which they should be, because just because 0:05:49.850 --> 0:05:53.270 a cowboy says something doesn't mean it's true. I mean, 0:05:53.310 --> 0:05:55.290 it's in their best interest not to tell you exactly 0:05:55.310 --> 0:05:57.020 what they're doing and exactly what they're up to. Jerry 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:58.380 said that to us before, just because I said it 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.940 doesn't make sense. And so you should look at everything 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.770 with a skeptical eye until proved otherwise. So if you 0:06:05.810 --> 0:06:09.030 don't think any of these moves connected together are acts 0:06:09.070 --> 0:06:11.150 of desperation, then you just choose not to do them. 0:06:11.170 --> 0:06:13.289 All you have to do is watch the defense or 0:06:13.430 --> 0:06:17.410 look at how they performed, and there's nothing they do well. 0:06:18.010 --> 0:06:20.750 They don't rush the passer well. They don't stop the run. 0:06:21.210 --> 0:06:25.780 They don't defend the pass. They don't get turnovers. I mean, 0:06:25.980 --> 0:06:28.060 there isn't any single thing they do well. 0:06:28.380 --> 0:06:30.940 So it's okay to make moves of desperation. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:31.839 I think it's good. 0:06:32.220 --> 0:06:32.860 That's what I'm saying. 0:06:33.260 --> 0:06:35.990 Like, give Jerry Jones credit for it. If he did this, well, 0:06:36.029 --> 0:06:39.390 he did do it, right? At some point, whether Christian 0:06:39.430 --> 0:06:42.430 Parker said, hey, I'd like to revisit bringing Mike Pettin 0:06:42.470 --> 0:06:45.110 back in. Maybe now I could convince him to do it. 0:06:45.190 --> 0:06:48.799 Or if Shottie said to Parker, what do you think about– 0:06:49.180 --> 0:06:53.060 getting some veteran help and addressing Mike Pettin again and 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.880 seeing if he's available now and willing to come back 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.060 and coach. At some point, Jerry had to sign off 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.360 on writing that check and adding that position to the 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.640 coaching staff. Just like he invested in making the trade 0:07:04.690 --> 0:07:07.210 for Joey Porter. I mean, he is trying to win. 0:07:07.230 --> 0:07:09.910 People say they set this young coordinator up to fail. How? 0:07:10.470 --> 0:07:13.090 Howie's been set up to fail. They've made five trades 0:07:13.130 --> 0:07:15.770 for players who are starting on defense. They used all 0:07:15.790 --> 0:07:19.810 of their premium picks on starting players on defense. They 0:07:19.830 --> 0:07:22.310 went out and got this coach everybody he wanted. How 0:07:22.410 --> 0:07:24.480 is ownership failing the coaching staff? 0:07:24.710 --> 0:07:28.360 People say that? I think so. I mean, let's put 0:07:28.500 --> 0:07:29.940 his name here. I mean, it's his quotes. 0:07:30.100 --> 0:07:30.300 Who? 0:07:30.660 --> 0:07:34.230 Chill. Claire said it. Now, I think in a way.... 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:36.300 He's not the only one. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.890 Well, you know, I think you can say... When they 0:07:40.910 --> 0:07:43.740 hired him and everything was, he's the best teacher we've 0:07:43.780 --> 0:07:45.970 ever seen. He'll fix all the things that's wrong with him. 0:07:45.980 --> 0:07:47.500 The communication's unbelievable. Right. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.830 You set him up with these expectations that if you 0:07:51.870 --> 0:07:52.310 don't hit it. 0:07:52.350 --> 0:07:55.590 But this franchise has always had those expectations. Whether they're 0:07:55.610 --> 0:07:57.510 realistic or not is beside the point. 0:07:57.850 --> 0:08:00.450 Well, I mean, but still, when you say it for 0:08:00.470 --> 0:08:02.950 a guy who's never done it, who has no track record. 0:08:02.990 --> 0:08:05.030 Hey, there were a lot of people who covered this 0:08:05.070 --> 0:08:07.230 team who were saying, Christian Parker's going to be a 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.620 one-year coordinator. He's going to get a head coaching job 0:08:09.700 --> 0:08:11.320 after one season. That's preposterous. 0:08:12.020 --> 0:08:16.400 I think it was, I think all those things were 0:08:16.620 --> 0:08:19.840 about if he had success, this could happen. 0:08:20.020 --> 0:08:21.980 That's the last thing you should presume when you look 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.580 at this team's history of defensive coordinators. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:29.620 That's true, but this is a fan base and a 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:34.500 content creator base that fills their veins with hope every day. 0:08:34.540 --> 0:08:38.610 Yeah, but it's not like somebody's been a first-time coordinator 0:08:38.620 --> 0:08:40.850 and not gotten a coaching opportunity next year. 0:08:40.870 --> 0:08:44.050 Jason Garrett was right there. So it could happen. 0:08:44.850 --> 0:08:47.530 But he stayed here for 10 years. Yeah, yeah. 0:08:48.460 --> 0:08:51.260 Yeah, but he turned down Atlanta, and he turned down Baltimore. 0:08:51.300 --> 0:08:53.650 Those were his jobs, and Jerry wrote him a check, 0:08:53.670 --> 0:08:55.890 and he stayed here with Uncle Wade. By the way, 0:08:55.929 --> 0:08:58.750 the last time the Cowboys played a Sunday night football 0:08:58.770 --> 0:09:02.230 game on NBC at Lambeau Field, that was the Wade game. 0:09:02.429 --> 0:09:03.189 They lost 45-7, got five. 0:09:04.620 --> 0:09:04.800 Yeah. 0:09:05.020 --> 0:09:07.400 Was Mike McCarthy's return, that was a late afternoon game 0:09:07.450 --> 0:09:10.010 that they lost? Yes. 31-28 when they were up two 0:09:10.050 --> 0:09:11.090 touchdowns in the fourth quarter? 0:09:11.570 --> 0:09:12.670 I was there for that one. 0:09:12.690 --> 0:09:14.510 I was there for that one, yeah. But that was 0:09:14.570 --> 0:09:16.370 Sunday night, on Sunday night football. 0:09:16.510 --> 0:09:18.910 So my question to you was, because I listened, but 0:09:19.270 --> 0:09:21.290 I wasn't here to see it, how did you think 0:09:21.470 --> 0:09:23.530 Christian Parker comported himself at his. 0:09:25.010 --> 0:09:27.929 I didn't think he was defensive about that. Yeah, that's 0:09:27.950 --> 0:09:28.930 what I mean. Not to make a pun. He had 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.910 to be defensive. I don't think he was defensive about it. 0:09:32.490 --> 0:09:34.790 My question, and I raised my hand to be called upon, 0:09:34.870 --> 0:09:38.500 and somehow, despite being here since 1989, I was not 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.260 called upon in the room today. Because they don't want 0:09:40.300 --> 0:09:43.240 you to ask 15 minutes of Christian Parker access. But 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.520 my question to him was— Did you let Ted know? 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.319 I did, and I think he wrote me down. I 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:48.620 don't know Ted. I think it was Scott. 0:09:48.780 --> 0:09:49.250 Oh, Scott. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:50.890 Ah, it was Scott. 0:09:50.990 --> 0:09:57.850 Anyway, my question was to be, for purposes of clarity— 0:09:59.050 --> 0:09:59.459 Who initially. 0:10:00.300 --> 0:10:00.459 this? 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.360 I know you talked about hiring him before the season started, 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.559 but did this come from Christian Parker? Did this come 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.469 from Shottie to Christian Parker? Or did this come from 0:10:10.510 --> 0:10:15.250 the front office, Jerry or somebody? Who went out and said, 0:10:15.370 --> 0:10:19.510 we need to consider bringing in X. Mike Patton. 0:10:19.620 --> 0:10:21.220 So, Beamer. Chris Beamer. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:21.960 Did you get an answer? 0:10:22.340 --> 0:10:23.400 No, I didn't get my question. 0:10:23.940 --> 0:10:27.500 But didn't he, didn't Parker say that was what he 0:10:27.540 --> 0:10:28.470 wanted you to bring him in? 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.180 Yeah, he originally said he tried to bring him in. Yeah, 0:10:31.540 --> 0:10:33.250 he tried to bring him in when he got hired. 0:10:33.290 --> 0:10:34.989 And then he said he talked to him last week 0:10:35.070 --> 0:10:37.010 after he got back from Italy. But that doesn't mean 0:10:37.050 --> 0:10:38.890 that he's the one who initiated that. He could have 0:10:38.910 --> 0:10:41.590 been the one to make the contact. Shotty could have said, hey, 0:10:41.630 --> 0:10:43.050 we need to bring somebody else in here. We need 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.140 to go back and get a veteran in here. And 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.040 I did think it was interesting that Parker made the 0:10:47.059 --> 0:10:50.160 point that, hey, Vance Joseph has had a couple guys. 0:10:50.540 --> 0:10:52.760 When I was with him in Denver, he had Dom 0:10:52.780 --> 0:10:55.240 Capers was his guy in this regard. 0:10:56.420 --> 0:11:00.140 So it's not uncommon. And quite honestly, I talked to 0:11:00.210 --> 0:11:02.890 some people who know this organization well, who know Petten, 0:11:03.230 --> 0:11:05.290 who think that this is like a home run hire. 0:11:05.330 --> 0:11:07.990 Like this is potentially going to save. One of them 0:11:08.050 --> 0:11:10.589 said they finally hired a legitimate coach. And I know 0:11:11.230 --> 0:11:14.699 that reflects poorly on every other coach on staff right now. 0:11:14.790 --> 0:11:18.500 I get that. But he did say they finally hired 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.480 a legitimate coach and this guy is going to make 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.939 a difference. He can coach and they're going to walk 0:11:24.020 --> 0:11:28.400 away with the division now. And let's look around the division. 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.900 Starting Sunday, every team except Dallas will have started their 0:11:33.940 --> 0:11:37.870 backup quarterback because Jalen Hurts is out. And not only 0:11:37.990 --> 0:11:41.230 is Jalen Hurts out, the Philadelphia Eagles are playing a 0:11:41.429 --> 0:11:43.650 game as a sub-500 team for the first time in 0:11:43.650 --> 0:11:44.990 78 weeks. 0:11:45.150 --> 0:11:49.900 Wow. Jalen's got a blood clot, and those things can 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.439 get done quickly or they can linger because That's a 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:52.900 life and death. 0:11:52.940 --> 0:11:55.339 And Dallas plays them next week. So he can miss 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:55.920 the Cowboys. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:00.470 So going back to your social media tweet, the coach 0:12:00.500 --> 0:12:01.390 said they're going to walk away. 0:12:01.309 --> 0:12:05.570 With the division. Did you believe that? 0:12:05.590 --> 0:12:07.910 I don't think they'll walk away with it. I still 0:12:07.950 --> 0:12:09.730 think they should win it. And, in fact, if I'm 0:12:09.770 --> 0:12:12.620 Brian Schottenheimer, I kind of feel like I better win it. 0:12:13.420 --> 0:12:15.040 Had a losing season last year. We haven't made the 0:12:15.059 --> 0:12:17.960 playoffs in the last two years under two different head coaches. 0:12:18.820 --> 0:12:21.510 Jerry's gone out and made all these trades, including one 0:12:21.550 --> 0:12:25.790 for Joey Porter. He's gone and expanded the payroll to 0:12:25.809 --> 0:12:30.040 add a coach during the season. I mean, really, the Giants' 0:12:30.420 --> 0:12:33.280 first-year coach in Jim Harbaugh with Jameis Winston are going 0:12:33.300 --> 0:12:38.830 to win the division? The Eagles are down. Washington's out 0:12:38.850 --> 0:12:40.090 of it already, in my opinion. 0:12:40.510 --> 0:12:41.250 Setting Brian up. 0:12:41.510 --> 0:12:45.099 Why shouldn't he win? I'm just saying if I'm him, 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.160 if I'm him. 0:12:46.220 --> 0:12:48.020 All I was just trying to do was walk you 0:12:48.059 --> 0:12:48.660 into that. 0:12:49.540 --> 0:12:51.459 I think it's in his best interest to win a 0:12:51.500 --> 0:12:55.050 weak division. The division is winnable even at two and three. 0:12:56.250 --> 0:12:58.290 Look, this is, I mean, and right now. 0:12:58.309 --> 0:12:59.939 But the way they're playing now, they're not going to 0:12:59.960 --> 0:13:00.360 win anything. 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.760 I mean, this is seemingly watching the Texas Rangers and 0:13:02.780 --> 0:13:06.240 the Houston Astros in baseball. That's what this feels like 0:13:06.260 --> 0:13:09.300 right now. That was a bad, awful AL West. 0:13:09.540 --> 0:13:11.790 Or watching the NFC South last year. 0:13:12.050 --> 0:13:15.750 Yeah, and that's what it feels like. But Vegas had it. 0:13:16.050 --> 0:13:17.770 When they looked at the odds this year, Vegas had 0:13:17.809 --> 0:13:19.650 the winner at nine and a half. They had Philly 0:13:19.690 --> 0:13:21.820 and Dallas both at 9.5, and they had the Giants 0:13:21.860 --> 0:13:24.319 and Washington both at 7.5. Right now it feels like, okay, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.140 these people really do kind of know what they're talking 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.500 about here, and we'll see where they go. 0:13:29.059 --> 0:13:32.280 So with what just happened to the Eagles, the Eagles 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.830 have moved from plus 136 to make the playoffs to 0:13:35.830 --> 0:13:38.830 205 with the news about Jalen Hurts, which is the 0:13:38.990 --> 0:13:43.489 fifth longest odds in the NFC. Let's remind people that 0:13:43.970 --> 0:13:46.760 in the last 10 years, the duration of Dak's career 0:13:46.780 --> 0:13:50.839 was Basically, it's been Dallas or Philadelphia. Nine out of 0:13:50.860 --> 0:13:53.219 ten times they've won the division. Washington won it once. 0:13:54.540 --> 0:13:58.480 And the Eagles, only the Cardinals, Bucs, Commanders, and Saints 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:00.520 have longer odds. You want to know how bad this 0:14:00.540 --> 0:14:03.110 division is? The Saints are 1-4. They're going to New York. 0:14:03.230 --> 0:14:07.270 They're favored to win the game. The Saints are favored 0:14:07.309 --> 0:14:09.850 at 1-4 to beat the NFC East leader. 0:14:09.870 --> 0:14:12.130 Believe in Kellen Moore. How about that? How about that? 0:14:12.150 --> 0:14:12.530 Good Adam. 0:14:12.830 --> 0:14:13.570 Good Adam. 0:14:14.090 --> 0:14:14.350 Okay. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.250 I'm just saying. Not saying you should have. Saying you 0:14:18.270 --> 0:14:23.490 could have. Did a little five-minute interview with him. Ed, 0:14:23.510 --> 0:14:26.560 you're so dirty. 0:14:26.740 --> 0:14:29.520 Ed has gone to Chris Beam Sniper School. 0:14:29.540 --> 0:14:31.360 I mean, my gosh. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.060 Wow. Wow. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.840 Okay, let me get a vest on next time for 0:14:34.860 --> 0:14:37.670 this segment. Join Ed to shoot me. 0:14:39.370 --> 0:14:42.450 Who have I harmed? 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Back to Media Mash. 0:17:17.590 --> 0:17:21.600 The primary ticketing partner of the Dallas Cowboys is SeatGeek. 0:17:21.660 --> 0:17:24.560 Be good at Cowboys football seats with SeatGeek. This is 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.940 the Media Mash. Got Jacques Taylor here. Got Ed Werner. 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:27.880 I am Newey Scruggs. 0:17:28.260 --> 0:17:28.600 All right. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.600 Ed, you got fun facts for this Green. 0:17:31.300 --> 0:17:34.710 Bay hosting of the Dallas Cowboys in Lambeau Field on 0:17:34.730 --> 0:17:35.790 NBC Sunday Night Football? 0:17:35.810 --> 0:17:40.050 Yeah. Well, I think I've got a few interesting matchup tidbits. Well, 0:17:40.109 --> 0:17:42.659 we've talked to Dak today, and one of the questions 0:17:42.700 --> 0:17:46.619 I asked Dak was, did he think that it was 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:52.220 possible that the 2023 home playoff loss to the Packers, 48-32, 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.920 a game in which the Packers scored more playoff points 0:17:56.940 --> 0:17:58.869 than they ever scored and Dallas allowed the most in 0:17:58.900 --> 0:18:03.129 their history, whether he thought that had sort of destroyed 0:18:03.170 --> 0:18:07.770 the team. Because the Cowboys... were 36-12 coming into that 0:18:07.830 --> 0:18:10.889 game in the previous three seasons under Mike McCarthy. And 0:18:11.030 --> 0:18:17.270 since that loss, they're 16-22-1. Now, he denied it. He 0:18:17.290 --> 0:18:20.990 thought that loss had those kinds of longstanding, devastating consequences 0:18:21.030 --> 0:18:21.410 for the Cowboys. 0:18:21.430 --> 0:18:22.189 He's supposed to poo-poo there. 0:18:22.450 --> 0:18:25.859 But, yeah. So the other interesting thing is the Sunday 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:32.429 night window is Dak's worst of all the playing– NFL 0:18:32.810 --> 0:18:38.020 play windows. He's 13-11-1 on Sunday night football, an 86.6 0:18:38.020 --> 0:18:40.920 passer rating, his worst passer rating of any game time 0:18:40.940 --> 0:18:45.379 window in his career. He's also won 5-1 against the Packers, 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.399 including playoffs, his worst record against any non-division opponent, and 0:18:49.460 --> 0:18:52.770 tied for his most losses against any opponent. 0:18:53.270 --> 0:18:56.429 They are 1-10-1 against the Pack since. 0:18:56.609 --> 0:18:59.030 They've only won in Green Bay, what, twice in franchise history? 0:18:59.150 --> 0:19:01.520 They've won in Milwaukee, but Green... So the other interesting thing, 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.280 I think, is that Dak's record since he won that 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.669 game in 2016 at Lambeau Field against Aaron Rodgers, that 0:19:07.710 --> 0:19:10.510 was a pivotal game in Dak's career. That was the 0:19:10.590 --> 0:19:14.109 first time in all of the weeks leading up to 0:19:14.150 --> 0:19:16.780 that game in 2016 when he was a rookie. That's 0:19:16.820 --> 0:19:20.659 when Jerry stopped saying it was Tony Romo's job when 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:21.200 he was healthy. 0:19:22.340 --> 0:19:26.810 I remember that Fox broadcast because– It was Brett Favre 0:19:27.050 --> 0:19:27.370 was there. 0:19:27.450 --> 0:19:28.570 Yeah, it was Brett Favre. 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.700 So Brett's up in the booth. Troy's in the booth. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:33.800 And they're both like, you can't get the job back. 0:19:33.859 --> 0:19:35.939 You can't give it back. And then Jimmy at halftime 0:19:36.180 --> 0:19:39.159 was like, that's it. That's your quarterback. And that was 0:19:39.260 --> 0:19:40.240 really the end of Romo. 0:19:41.380 --> 0:19:43.210 He won the next week in Pittsburgh to sort of 0:19:43.369 --> 0:19:46.570 solidify it. And then it became formal after that. But 0:19:46.609 --> 0:19:49.930 it was really winning at Lambeau Field against Aaron Rodgers. 0:19:50.460 --> 0:19:53.000 that convinced this front office. The coaching staff was already sold. 0:19:53.020 --> 0:19:54.840 The locker room was already sold. He already won all 0:19:55.540 --> 0:19:58.430 that support. But it was Jerry who was the last holdout. 0:19:58.550 --> 0:20:00.389 Even Jerry in that locker room, I still remember, he 0:20:00.770 --> 0:20:02.310 used to accuse me of trying to put words in 0:20:02.350 --> 0:20:03.910 his mouth. I said, Jerry, I've known you for 30 years. 0:20:04.230 --> 0:20:05.530 The one thing I've never had to do is put 0:20:05.570 --> 0:20:06.190 words in your mouth. 0:20:06.210 --> 0:20:06.670 No. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.260 But that was the first time that Jerry finally stopped saying, 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.580 when Romo was healthy, Romo was blank. But since then, 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:23.230 Dak's 0-5-1, okay? But he's averaged 31 points a game. 0:20:23.570 --> 0:20:27.010 The Packers, in that same stretch, have averaged scoring 37 0:20:27.010 --> 0:20:30.490 points a game against Dallas. 37 points a game. 0:20:31.130 --> 0:20:32.330 I have a question about that playoff. 0:20:35.670 --> 0:20:37.050 The playoff, oh, the 48-30. 0:20:37.070 --> 0:20:37.950 When Dak lost it. 0:20:37.970 --> 0:20:40.210 When McCarthy was on the other side that year when 0:20:40.230 --> 0:20:41.609 they were number one seed, his rookie. 0:20:42.550 --> 0:20:43.609 I heard. 0:20:44.869 --> 0:20:49.090 That there was a conversation and Jerry was involved about 0:20:49.170 --> 0:20:52.810 starting Romo for that game. Dak ended up starting the 0:20:52.830 --> 0:20:55.449 game and put up good numbers. He put up some 0:20:55.490 --> 0:20:56.909 very good numbers against Aaron Rodgers that game. 0:20:56.930 --> 0:20:57.920 But I had heard that. 0:20:57.960 --> 0:20:58.780 Have you ever heard that? 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.960 You mean the game in Green Bay, the regular season? 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:01.860 No, no, the playoff. 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:06.320 The playoff game that they had that they lost. When 0:21:06.340 --> 0:21:08.860 McCarthy was the coach. Remember, that's rookie year. 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.120 Right. McCarthy wasn't the coach when Romo was. 0:21:12.220 --> 0:21:13.950 No, McCarthy was coaching Green Bay. 0:21:14.430 --> 0:21:14.590 Oh, 2016. 0:21:14.570 --> 0:21:15.760 That playoff game, 2016. 0:21:15.750 --> 0:21:17.369 That playoff. 0:21:17.390 --> 0:21:18.649 Remember the home playoff game? 0:21:19.030 --> 0:21:20.070 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:21:20.109 --> 0:21:22.379 The 33-yard pass on third and 21. 0:21:22.369 --> 0:21:23.530 Jared Cook, like, third, 26. 0:21:23.530 --> 0:21:24.550 Oh, yeah, yeah. 0:21:24.590 --> 0:21:26.050 That one, I had heard. 0:21:26.109 --> 0:21:28.869 Well, we remember that was Dak's first playoff game. Am 0:21:28.950 --> 0:21:29.580 I correct about that? 0:21:29.890 --> 0:21:30.080 Right. 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.820 And we remember they got off to a horribly slow start. 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.490 And Romo started throwing on the sidelines. And we don't 0:21:36.530 --> 0:21:39.020 know if Romo was authorized, told by the coaches to 0:21:39.060 --> 0:21:42.010 get ready, that they might pull Dak, get warmed up, 0:21:42.420 --> 0:21:45.179 or if Romo took it upon himself to create the 0:21:45.220 --> 0:21:48.310 pressure on Dak in the moment. But Dak ignored it, obviously, 0:21:48.330 --> 0:21:51.190 and came back and led his team to 30-some points. 0:21:51.230 --> 0:21:53.850 He nearly won the game. But I had. 0:21:53.570 --> 0:21:55.879 Heard that leading up. 0:21:56.500 --> 0:21:59.119 At that time, there was talk and that Jerry was 0:21:59.180 --> 0:22:04.070 involved about, hey, starting Romo and then that some people said, no, no, no. 0:22:04.090 --> 0:22:06.290 Well, what was Jerry saying publicly at the time? He 0:22:06.310 --> 0:22:07.990 was talking about what a great story it would be 0:22:08.410 --> 0:22:13.030 if Romo, who hadn't played the entire season, suddenly got healthy, 0:22:13.109 --> 0:22:14.869 came off the bench, and led this team to a 0:22:14.890 --> 0:22:17.090 Super Bowl. I mean, it had to be offensive to Dak. 0:22:17.290 --> 0:22:22.409 He just went 13-3. Right? And Jerry has having dreams 0:22:22.450 --> 0:22:23.850 about Romo replacing him. 0:22:24.170 --> 0:22:24.390 Yes. 0:22:24.630 --> 0:22:26.379 That's why I just wondered. 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.520 But I do remember that Romo is up and throwing. 0:22:30.380 --> 0:22:33.020 Like before halftime. I forgot that. I forgot that. 0:22:34.859 --> 0:22:36.620 Interesting times. Interesting times. 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:37.859 But what else you got? 0:22:37.900 --> 0:22:40.820 Fun fact. In terms of this being a tough matchup 0:22:40.900 --> 0:22:43.720 for Dallas, you know, Dallas is coming off across the 0:22:43.770 --> 0:22:46.489 board its worst offensive performance in the loss to Tampa Bay. 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:49.920 And Green Bay is coming off across the board best 0:22:49.940 --> 0:22:54.270 season highs performances for them in beating the Bears. Jordan 0:22:54.310 --> 0:22:58.330 Love leads the NFL with 839 passing yards on throws 0:22:58.330 --> 0:23:01.290 10 or more yards down the field this year. Dallas 0:23:01.330 --> 0:23:05.369 has allowed five touchdown passes with no interceptions and a 0:23:05.369 --> 0:23:10.490 121.5 passer rating on throws down the field. Only Washington 0:23:10.570 --> 0:23:13.410 and Detroit are worse. And when it comes to just 0:23:13.450 --> 0:23:17.320 pressuring the quarterback, the team without Micah Parsons for the 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:21.500 past year, has the third lowest pressure percentage in the NFL. 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:24.939 Only the Colts, who we may pick in the suicide 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.100 pool nonetheless, and the Cardinals, who also may be a 0:23:28.140 --> 0:23:31.700 factor in the upcoming picks for the survivor pool, get 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:32.960 less pressure than the Cowboys. 0:23:33.740 --> 0:23:37.200 Packers, 32nd in the league in third down percentage at 27.6. 0:23:37.180 --> 0:23:37.990 And then they are dead last. 0:23:37.900 --> 0:23:39.919 In rushing at 32nd. 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.260 But the Cowboys aren't much better. The 30th, right? 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:46.120 Yeah, the 30th. 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:47.840 And they never get off the field either. 0:23:48.060 --> 0:23:52.460 In time of possession, Green Bay's 31st. Cowboys are 30th. 0:23:52.460 --> 0:23:55.480 27 minutes of possession. The Cowboys have the... So they've 0:23:55.500 --> 0:23:58.439 got this great offense, right? Gaudy, greatest offense there is. 0:23:59.550 --> 0:24:00.449 Except they can't get on the field. 0:24:00.470 --> 0:24:01.050 They can't get on the field. 0:24:01.730 --> 0:24:05.670 They've got the fewest offensive possessions of any team that's 0:24:05.690 --> 0:24:07.450 played five games. They have 45. 0:24:07.450 --> 0:24:09.670 And the least rushing attempts, too. 0:24:09.990 --> 0:24:10.130 Yeah. 0:24:10.730 --> 0:24:11.350 So this is. 0:24:12.230 --> 0:24:14.310 They've got to run the football. At some point, they've 0:24:14.350 --> 0:24:17.370 got to create. They can't play complementary football because their 0:24:17.410 --> 0:24:20.860 defense is so bad. But imagine being Dak Prescott. Every week, 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.460 you've got to score 30 points to have any chance 0:24:24.580 --> 0:24:27.080 of winning a game. They're 1-10 when they don't score 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.379 30 points and Schottenheimer became the head coach. You've got 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.179 to score at least 30 points. Oh, and you have 0:24:32.220 --> 0:24:35.889 to do it with limited possessions and the defense is 0:24:35.950 --> 0:24:38.630 never going to get you a short field from a turnover. 0:24:38.990 --> 0:24:40.750 Good luck, sir. Oh, and you can't run the ball. 0:24:41.750 --> 0:24:43.060 Yeah, nobody's going to make an interception. 0:24:43.430 --> 0:24:46.820 Like last week, if Bland makes that pick, we're possibly 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:49.420 talking about a different outcome. And things have to change. 0:24:49.460 --> 0:24:52.060 And yesterday I was there when Joey Porter was talking, 0:24:52.580 --> 0:24:53.180 and he's like, we just. 0:24:53.090 --> 0:24:54.889 Got to catch the ball. 0:24:54.910 --> 0:24:55.810 We got to catch the ball. 0:24:56.230 --> 0:24:58.729 Quarterbacks, that was one of the few plays I remember 0:24:58.830 --> 0:25:01.629 in the game against Tampa where they actually did blitz 0:25:01.650 --> 0:25:04.810 the corner. They blitzed Reddy Stewart. that's what you have 0:25:04.850 --> 0:25:07.470 to do to get quarterbacks to make bad decisions and 0:25:07.570 --> 0:25:09.550 errant throws that you can intercept. If you don't rush 0:25:09.590 --> 0:25:11.869 the passer, they're not going to make those mistakes. 0:25:12.090 --> 0:25:15.250 Quarterbacks make mistakes under duress. That's the only time. I mean, 0:25:15.609 --> 0:25:16.750 essentially that's the only time it happens. 0:25:16.830 --> 0:25:18.710 Isn't that what Dan Quinn was all about? Yeah. Didn't 0:25:18.730 --> 0:25:19.790 he do that for three years here? 0:25:20.470 --> 0:25:22.369 Well, he was front running and then we'll blitz it 0:25:22.450 --> 0:25:23.390 and create. 0:25:23.430 --> 0:25:25.670 This is what Todd Bowles' whole career has been on. 0:25:25.830 --> 0:25:29.290 And Dak talked today about Jonathan Gannon, the coordinator for 0:25:29.310 --> 0:25:32.090 Green Bay. And Gannon knows him from Arizona. And by 0:25:32.109 --> 0:25:34.899 the way, the, Dak's lowest winning percentage against any team 0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:38.220 is the Arizona Cardinals. But also Gannon was with the 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:39.940 Philadelphia Eagles. So yeah, they're coming. 0:25:40.340 --> 0:25:40.879 They're coming. 0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:46.240 The defensive coordinator definitely well knows his opponent. He's been 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.060 in the division and like you said, he's played him 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.560 a couple times in Arizona and fared pretty well. 0:25:51.780 --> 0:25:54.580 Yeah, so the blitz is coming this week, but run 0:25:54.619 --> 0:25:57.419 the ball. And just to save your defense. That's the 0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:58.200 other thing. 0:25:58.220 --> 0:25:59.810 But you know, the problem is if your defense is 0:25:59.830 --> 0:26:01.750 so bad, then you feel like you've got to score 0:26:01.790 --> 0:26:04.399 every time and We don't have time to establish the 0:26:04.460 --> 0:26:06.420 run because if we have a couple three and outs, 0:26:06.700 --> 0:26:09.969 now we're down. I mean, it's a chicken and egg thing. 0:26:09.990 --> 0:26:11.750 The defense has to get off the field. But if 0:26:11.770 --> 0:26:15.210 you're the Cowboys, like sustained drives is a part of 0:26:15.250 --> 0:26:17.189 your success because you want to keep your defense off 0:26:17.210 --> 0:26:20.010 the field. Just as much as they want to keep 0:26:20.030 --> 0:26:21.469 your offense off the field, you want to keep your 0:26:21.530 --> 0:26:25.040 defense off the field, right? But I thought Clayton Adams 0:26:25.100 --> 0:26:29.200 made an interesting matchup this week, right? Clayton Adams is 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.160 the offensive coordinator here and in charge of the run game. 0:26:31.820 --> 0:26:34.360 was worked under Jonathan Gannon, who was the head coach 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.600 at Arizona. So these guys know each other really well. 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.899 But one of the interesting points I thought Adams made 0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.119 in talking about how poorly the Cowboys have run the 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.640 football is, you know, he said we only had 13 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.700 running plays and we lost yardage on two of them. Like, 0:26:47.780 --> 0:26:50.090 that doesn't encourage you to call it. And he said 0:26:50.490 --> 0:26:54.869 the new strategy among defensive coordinators is they'll let you 0:26:54.990 --> 0:26:58.889 operate normally between the 30s, but once you get in 0:26:58.950 --> 0:27:02.010 field goal range, they all of a sudden are emboldened 0:27:02.130 --> 0:27:04.730 to start sending blitzes and just hoping they can get 0:27:04.790 --> 0:27:06.530 a negative play that knocks you out of field goal range. 0:27:06.869 --> 0:27:09.950 That's their whole strategy now. And that hasn't always been 0:27:09.970 --> 0:27:11.390 the case, I don't think. So there's a lot more 0:27:11.470 --> 0:27:14.170 run blitzing in the league and more blitzing in general 0:27:14.210 --> 0:27:15.109 than we've seen in the past. 0:27:15.350 --> 0:27:17.889 How do they get Pickens the ball more? 0:27:18.910 --> 0:27:22.130 Well, I think it's– I don't think they care about 0:27:22.170 --> 0:27:24.090 getting Pickett's the ball. I think they care who are 0:27:24.109 --> 0:27:25.889 you trying to take away from us and we just 0:27:25.930 --> 0:27:29.460 go the other way. Meaning, CD has 17 catches. Oh, 0:27:29.470 --> 0:27:31.640 my God, we can't let that happen. So, they roll 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.040 his way and they let Pickett's free. 0:27:36.700 --> 0:27:39.020 My sense has always been that Dak's taken the guy 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:40.740 who's got the best matchup, the guy who's. 0:27:40.940 --> 0:27:43.100 You know, Dak has always been an equal opportunity thrower. 0:27:43.220 --> 0:27:45.340 He's never been a guy who said, oh, I got 0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.420 to get the ball. He's always been. 0:27:47.859 --> 0:27:50.520 He's got two number one receivers. It doesn't really matter 0:27:50.540 --> 0:27:51.140 to him, I don't think. 0:27:52.030 --> 0:27:52.919 Gotcha. Gotcha. 0:27:53.010 --> 0:27:54.470 And Jake Ferguson's got to catch the ball. 0:27:55.210 --> 0:27:55.869 And not fumble it. 0:27:56.070 --> 0:27:56.730 Yeah. 0:27:56.750 --> 0:27:58.690 Jake's not good. 0:27:58.770 --> 0:27:59.430 Not good. 0:27:59.450 --> 0:28:03.570 Speaking of receivers, I saw one of Ed's favorites last night. T.O.? Yep. 0:28:04.910 --> 0:28:06.129 I was just guessing. 0:28:06.250 --> 0:28:08.090 I was at the Tony Stewart Celebrity Bowl. 0:28:08.109 --> 0:28:10.050 I would have said Cornell Burbage, James Dixon. 0:28:10.590 --> 0:28:11.830 And my man T.O. 0:28:11.850 --> 0:28:12.360 Was in the house. 0:28:12.410 --> 0:28:15.140 And they were like, yeah, I was in the house. 0:28:15.740 --> 0:28:16.520 And somebody said, T.O. 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:16.820 's here. 0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:20.139 I was like, oh, the player's here. And he was 0:28:20.180 --> 0:28:22.560 down there. Apparently. 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:23.359 He's a good bowler. 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:24.359 He was killing it. 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:25.100 Okay. 0:28:25.260 --> 0:28:29.180 He was killing it. I mean, they had some pros there. 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:30.109 He was up there with the pros. 0:28:30.140 --> 0:28:30.290 Yeah. 0:28:30.730 --> 0:28:32.689 But he was down in Lane 27. I was out 0:28:32.730 --> 0:28:34.240 here on 14. I just stayed right there. 0:28:34.340 --> 0:28:35.800 You didn't go see the filet, man? 0:28:35.859 --> 0:28:37.140 That's my boy, dog. I know. 0:28:37.260 --> 0:28:40.360 I knew your client. We're not that close. He's not 0:28:40.380 --> 0:28:40.960 a client. 0:28:40.980 --> 0:28:42.240 That was Calvin's client. 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:47.750 That was Calvin's client. We're colleagues and associates. He's not 0:28:47.790 --> 0:28:48.330 a client, though. 0:28:48.430 --> 0:28:48.980 He ain't like Ed. 0:28:48.990 --> 0:28:51.110 I remember that time at Valley Range when you and 0:28:51.130 --> 0:28:53.470 I were both asking, and there was this thing, Ed 0:28:53.530 --> 0:28:56.110 and I, fine, we're just going to keep on firing. Fine, 0:28:56.150 --> 0:28:58.130 let's just, fine, we can do this all. 0:28:58.350 --> 0:29:01.130 I don't care. I know I'm ruining it for everybody else, 0:29:01.170 --> 0:29:02.440 but fine. Fine. 0:29:03.540 --> 0:29:05.720 Before I wrote that story that they were going to 0:29:05.740 --> 0:29:08.880 consider moving on from him in the offseason, I tried 0:29:08.900 --> 0:29:11.540 to get him to respond before I published anything, and 0:29:12.340 --> 0:29:12.979 he chose not to. 0:29:13.460 --> 0:29:16.469 My thing was they sent me to, when they, When 0:29:16.510 --> 0:29:20.540 they acquired him, they sent me to Alabama City, Alabama 0:29:20.580 --> 0:29:22.719 to write a story. And they liked it so much, 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.780 they said, well, go to San Francisco and write a story. 0:29:26.540 --> 0:29:27.940 And like that one, they said, well, go to Philly 0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:32.330 and write a story. So I became the T.O. beat writer. T.O. 0:29:32.350 --> 0:29:32.740 Whisperer? 0:29:33.050 --> 0:29:33.250 Yeah. 0:29:33.610 --> 0:29:34.030 For a while. 0:29:34.250 --> 0:29:34.950 In the morning news? 0:29:35.370 --> 0:29:35.550 Yeah. 0:29:36.270 --> 0:29:37.090 Back when they used to travel. 0:29:37.110 --> 0:29:38.970 I was going to say, nobody travels like that anymore. 0:29:39.010 --> 0:29:39.950 They wouldn't even think of doing this. 0:29:40.500 --> 0:29:40.660 This. 0:29:41.060 --> 0:29:42.200 A newspaper traveling like that? 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:45.010 That was all in about three weeks. 0:29:46.790 --> 0:29:49.810 I got sent to, you mentioned Alabama, I got sent 0:29:49.830 --> 0:29:52.910 to Alabama looking for Leon Lett during one of his crises. 0:29:53.350 --> 0:29:54.670 That's how we used to do it back in the day. 0:29:56.090 --> 0:29:56.310 Wow. 0:29:56.510 --> 0:29:57.210 That was cool, man. 0:29:57.310 --> 0:29:58.470 Yeah. 0:29:58.570 --> 0:29:59.910 That was good. 0:29:59.970 --> 0:30:01.270 I'm glad T.O. 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Does it happen if there's a loss 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.800 this week? I mean, when do we ask the questions? 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.920 Because I do go back to my first press conference, 0:33:15.940 --> 0:33:18.300 the first Schottenheimer press conference, and I asked Jerry one-on-one. 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.340 I said, Jerry, what is it you knew that 32 0:33:20.340 --> 0:33:22.660 other teams didn't because Shottie was not interviewed for another 0:33:22.700 --> 0:33:24.260 head coaching job in the two years he's been here 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:24.740 except by you? 0:33:25.540 --> 0:33:28.820 And Ben Johnson and Liam Cohen were available in that 0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:30.060 coaching cycle? Bill Belichick was available? 0:33:30.420 --> 0:33:31.680 I mean, let's just keep it real. None of those 0:33:31.700 --> 0:33:33.480 guys are coming here because they all want power that 0:33:33.500 --> 0:33:34.660 Jerry's not going to concede. 0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.120 So Bill Parcells came here. 0:33:40.260 --> 0:33:41.340 That's to get a stadium done. 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:45.080 I don't think Liam Cohen would have said no if 0:33:45.100 --> 0:33:49.440 you'd offered him the job between Jacksonville and Dallas. All 0:33:49.460 --> 0:33:50.820 these coaches get advised. 0:33:51.380 --> 0:33:54.540 If you listen to your advisors, if you have choices, 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.680 now if you don't have no choice, Shadi, then you 0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.510 take what's available to you. But if you have choices, 0:34:01.010 --> 0:34:03.230 you want to be in control of your future. If 0:34:03.250 --> 0:34:05.050 you have choices. I have not. 0:34:06.070 --> 0:34:09.489 We don't know what the conversations were, but I would 0:34:09.550 --> 0:34:15.509 guess that if ever Shottie has been uncomfortable about his 0:34:15.790 --> 0:34:18.510 future with this franchise, it would be after a loss 0:34:18.550 --> 0:34:21.940 like the Tampa game. I mean, you're playing at home 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.200 against an opponent that has a short week of preparation, 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:30.180 has to play on the road with an undrafted rookie quarterback, 0:34:30.739 --> 0:34:35.890 backup quarterback, starting against your defense, and you lose the game. 0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:37.930 You're only ahead after your first possession. 0:34:38.580 --> 0:34:40.880 It's not even close losses. 0:34:41.060 --> 0:34:43.910 He's the first undrafted quarterback to win with a winless 0:34:43.950 --> 0:34:48.770 team this late in the season in history. So I 0:34:48.810 --> 0:34:50.989 would think that would make you uncomfortable. And that's why 0:34:51.010 --> 0:34:54.890 I'm saying, well, who did go get Mike Pettin? Because 0:34:54.950 --> 0:34:59.180 Mike Pettin... Mike Pettin fits the profile that Jerry usually 0:34:59.260 --> 0:35:03.080 wants in a defensive coordinator. Last three defensive coordinators, Dan Quinn, 0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.820 Mike Nolan, in fact, four. Matt Eberfluss and Mike Zimmer 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.080 were all former head coaches and longtime defensive play callers. 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:11.120 Christian Parker's none of those things. 0:35:12.260 --> 0:35:15.899 And from an offensive side, Shadi got outcoached by Todd Bowles. 0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:19.239 So what you're supposed to do well, they didn't do 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:22.160 well on Thursday night at home in a game which 0:35:22.180 --> 0:35:23.359 they were ahead by, what, nine and a half? 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:25.759 Yeah, it was eight and a half, I think. 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:26.220 Okay. 0:35:26.460 --> 0:35:29.469 It was as big an upset from a point spread 0:35:29.489 --> 0:35:31.410 standpoint as there's been in the entire league. 0:35:31.450 --> 0:35:34.710 You have to understand what the conversation was in training camp. Well, 0:35:34.750 --> 0:35:36.850 I think this team from the front office, oh, I 0:35:36.870 --> 0:35:38.330 think this is the most talented team we've had in 0:35:38.350 --> 0:35:42.080 a long time. I think this team can really continue, blah, blah, blah. 0:35:42.180 --> 0:35:43.000 And so now. 0:35:44.460 --> 0:35:47.680 What did Shottie say himself when they made the trade 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.320 for Joey Porter last week? We're in win now mode. 0:35:50.969 --> 0:35:53.589 So if you don't win now, and you don't win now, 0:35:53.670 --> 0:35:56.310 as I was saying earlier, when the division is this week, 0:35:56.950 --> 0:36:00.590 when are you going to win? And you've had a 0:36:00.630 --> 0:36:03.610 healthy Dak Prescott for every game of your head coaching career, 0:36:03.630 --> 0:36:07.610 and what have you done with it? Yeah. And so it's... 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:10.980 So for all we know, they may be having those 0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:11.859 conversations right now. 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:14.880 And then when you talk about a first-time head coach 0:36:14.980 --> 0:36:18.170 and you look at the decisions at the Baltimore game, Yeah, 0:36:18.250 --> 0:36:19.410 how that game was handled. 0:36:19.430 --> 0:36:20.330 The game management at the end. 0:36:20.370 --> 0:36:20.529 Right. 0:36:20.550 --> 0:36:22.150 How that was handled. 0:36:22.190 --> 0:36:26.390 And then you go on a Thursday short week. And 0:36:26.570 --> 0:36:28.660 we've all covered the Cowboys. Back in the day, a 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:34.000 Thursday game usually meant Thanksgiving. But Thursday games, Cowboys, you 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:35.580 used to bank those things. 0:36:35.620 --> 0:36:37.730 It's a huge advantage to be playing at home on 0:36:37.770 --> 0:36:40.899 a short week. I think that was a far bigger 0:36:40.940 --> 0:36:42.969 factor than, oh, the Cowboys had to play three games 0:36:43.030 --> 0:36:45.270 in 12. They do that every year. Now they don't 0:36:45.370 --> 0:36:48.170 do it in Brazil. I get that. But to me, 0:36:48.870 --> 0:36:51.310 the hardship was more on the Bucs, especially given the 0:36:51.350 --> 0:36:52.370 inexperience of the quarterback. 0:36:53.730 --> 0:36:54.910 You're not supposed to lose that game. 0:36:55.430 --> 0:36:56.530 No, they know that. 0:36:56.570 --> 0:36:57.290 You're not supposed to. 0:36:57.410 --> 0:36:59.500 And that's why I say, at what point in time 0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.480 do you start to look at the head coach? 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.299 And from my knowledge, the head coach is the one 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:06.400 who wanted the coordinator. 0:37:06.420 --> 0:37:06.500 Yeah. 0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:10.339 Yeah, I think Jerry empowered the head coach. In fact, 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.359 that's what I said this whole offseason was. The best 0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.380 thing to happen all offseason for the Cowboys is Jerry 0:37:15.460 --> 0:37:19.459 trusted his head coach in a way that he normally doesn't. 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.180 And he said that vaguely. I mean, he said, we've 0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.339 done things differently than we've ever done them before. And 0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:27.860 he didn't hire a guy who fits the profile of 0:37:27.900 --> 0:37:30.910 a defensive coordinator. But he has that now. And guess what? 0:37:30.930 --> 0:37:33.070 That guy's been a head coach. What does that mean? 0:37:35.030 --> 0:37:35.330 This is. 0:37:36.030 --> 0:37:38.129 So at some point in time, we're going to– and look, 0:37:38.610 --> 0:37:40.450 for him, if he wins this week and next week, 0:37:40.469 --> 0:37:40.810 then there are. 0:37:40.770 --> 0:37:42.630 No more conversations because people are, hey, the Cowboys are. 0:37:42.590 --> 0:37:44.290 Looking good again. You're going to say you beat the 0:37:44.330 --> 0:37:45.989 Green Bay Packers and you beat Philadelphia. 0:37:46.010 --> 0:37:47.430 And three weeks ago we were saying, hey, the next 0:37:47.469 --> 0:37:50.210 three teams are 1-8 and they're terrible on the offensive 0:37:50.250 --> 0:37:52.670 line and the Cowboys are strong there. That's where they 0:37:52.710 --> 0:37:56.589 invested the most on defense. And where are we now? 1-2, 1-1. 0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.080 And when you say you're looking– when do you look 0:37:59.100 --> 0:38:02.540 at the head coach? They're looking at him now. The 0:38:02.580 --> 0:38:05.140 line of demarcation has been established. It was a Tampa loss. 0:38:05.590 --> 0:38:08.390 So now we're looking at you. What will you do? 0:38:08.430 --> 0:38:10.930 You'll either rise up and fix things or you won't. 0:38:11.110 --> 0:38:14.290 But it feels like the person who's gotten the most 0:38:14.370 --> 0:38:16.170 heat right now is the coordinator, not so much the 0:38:16.190 --> 0:38:16.610 head coach. 0:38:17.210 --> 0:38:18.730 That's what it feels like to me. You tell me. 0:38:19.350 --> 0:38:20.549 Well, understandably, right? 0:38:20.590 --> 0:38:22.250 The offense has played pretty well and is one of 0:38:22.270 --> 0:38:24.750 the best in the league, again, and has been since 0:38:24.790 --> 0:38:25.990 Shottie's been calling the plays. 0:38:26.030 --> 0:38:29.450 Here's the ultimate answer, and Ed knows this and you 0:38:29.469 --> 0:38:31.210 know this. At the end of the year, if you 0:38:31.250 --> 0:38:34.940 don't achieve your goals, say they've missed the playoffs– There 0:38:34.980 --> 0:38:37.920 will be a scapegoat, and the scapegoat will be the 0:38:37.940 --> 0:38:39.660 head coach or one of the coordinators. 0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.160 Well, it can't be the coordinator. You can't blame the 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:43.709 defensive coordinator three years in a row for missing the playoffs, right? 0:38:45.150 --> 0:38:46.469 And I still go back into this, Jacques. 0:38:46.570 --> 0:38:46.910 Okay. 0:38:47.450 --> 0:38:48.790 You said there's going to be a scapegoat. 0:38:49.190 --> 0:38:53.110 The Brazil game. The ref gives you a call of 0:38:53.150 --> 0:38:57.080 balls at the two. You got the gaudy offense. You're 0:38:57.100 --> 0:38:57.839 the coordinator. 0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.420 You're the guru. You're supposed to score. You score that, boom, 0:39:01.900 --> 0:39:02.560 end it. 0:39:02.700 --> 0:39:05.340 Instead, it was a... horrible sequence of calls. 0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:09.739 Right so that that right there so my guy is 0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.100 supposed to give me this advantage doesn't give it to 0:39:12.140 --> 0:39:14.580 me we don't you don't win the game and then 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.620 the tampa tampa game where todd bowles out schemed you 0:39:18.500 --> 0:39:19.620 he out schemed. 0:39:19.300 --> 0:39:21.900 You and they just generally didn't look ready to play. 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.860 And that's where to me that's and you know i 0:39:25.300 --> 0:39:27.300 remember last year i was like man the bears game 0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.089 i don't know how you lose the bears in carolina 0:39:29.110 --> 0:39:32.160 but the end or something were both playoff teams. Bears 0:39:32.180 --> 0:39:34.480 ended up playing in the NFC Championship game, and now 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:36.839 we see that Carolina has sustained. This is a good 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.799 football team, and they've got a good coach there. But 0:39:39.900 --> 0:39:41.859 at some point in time, we've got time. Time will 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:43.660 either expose you or promote you. And so the next 0:39:43.700 --> 0:39:46.340 two weeks, we're going to have to start asking the question, 0:39:46.380 --> 0:39:47.549 when do we look at Shoddy? 0:39:47.989 --> 0:39:49.390 I'm telling you, you're looking at him now. 0:39:49.570 --> 0:39:49.790 Okay. 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.129 You can't go three straight years without a playoff berth. 0:39:54.810 --> 0:39:56.350 Even though he hasn't been the head coach for all 0:39:56.370 --> 0:39:57.450 of those. He's been on the staff. 0:39:57.830 --> 0:40:00.049 I was going to say, he's been a part of it. Yeah, 0:40:00.090 --> 0:40:01.350 he's been a common denominator. 0:40:01.489 --> 0:40:03.509 And then you go back to the, then you'll have 0:40:03.550 --> 0:40:06.239 the same question again. What kind of coach can you get? 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:10.660 I don't think that's ever a factor really. I think 0:40:10.700 --> 0:40:13.640 it's just get rid of this one. We'll find somebody else. 0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.739 Hey, the honeymoon's over, Doug. 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:21.210 There's coaches. It's about you hiding the right one. Yeah, 0:40:21.430 --> 0:40:22.790 it's about you hiring the right one. 0:40:23.370 --> 0:40:26.830 Well, it's about hiring the right one and creating the 0:40:26.890 --> 0:40:28.710 right environment for him to succeed. 0:40:28.910 --> 0:40:31.910 I say it's the other way around. It's creating the 0:40:31.950 --> 0:40:34.890 environment that a young guy who can succeed will want 0:40:34.910 --> 0:40:39.580 to come. Because this is a different environment. 0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:40.819 True. 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.500 And again, when you get offered jobs, you call your boys, 0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:45.340 your advisors, you say, hey, what do you think? If 0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.430 I get a young reporter, if I get a job, hey, 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.080 what do you think about this place? What have you heard? 0:40:49.650 --> 0:40:51.890 And I had people call me, hey, man, this is 0:40:51.930 --> 0:40:54.310 playing like Bobby Knight at the morning news. This is 0:40:54.350 --> 0:40:56.290 not a good fit for you. I mean, seriously, I 0:40:56.310 --> 0:40:58.290 told one of my boys that. It was like, you're 0:40:58.330 --> 0:40:59.169 not going to fit here, dog. 0:40:59.610 --> 0:41:04.140 I remembered when Chris Richard, remember back then, another high pro, hey, hey, 0:41:04.150 --> 0:41:08.410 we got this guy. Chris Richard, who was in Seattle, 0:41:09.350 --> 0:41:14.680 and Chris had played for Dennis Thurman. And in a 0:41:14.739 --> 0:41:17.440 conversation we all had, he just kind of let his 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:17.920 guard down a bit. 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.880 It's different. It's different. 0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:23.879 People around the building, all that stuff. 0:41:23.940 --> 0:41:30.040 It's just like Seattle's football is a lot different. But 0:41:30.060 --> 0:41:33.410 he was kind of saying, the circus is here. And 0:41:33.450 --> 0:41:35.190 I just kind of chuckled like, yeah. 0:41:35.210 --> 0:41:37.489 The other part of that is we could tell you 0:41:37.510 --> 0:41:40.009 it's the circus and you could say, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:41:40.050 --> 0:41:43.210 And then once you get here, you're like, oh, no. 0:41:43.370 --> 0:41:46.750 It's like for real. It's more than you even thought 0:41:46.790 --> 0:41:47.069 it was. 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:50.100 I had the reverse of it because the first– professional team, 0:41:50.140 --> 0:41:52.900 football team. I recovered with the Cowboys. I was in Austin. 0:41:53.469 --> 0:41:55.410 And when they had training camp down there and they 0:41:55.430 --> 0:41:58.690 were world champs. And so I, all that it entailed. 0:41:59.210 --> 0:41:59.790 That was normal. 0:42:00.450 --> 0:42:01.370 Well, then I went to Cleveland. 0:42:02.090 --> 0:42:06.400 Where's everybody at? No, for real. Where's everybody at? 0:42:06.420 --> 0:42:07.259 Nobody covers this team? 0:42:07.460 --> 0:42:07.919 This is all media? 0:42:07.940 --> 0:42:09.700 What are you talking about? We got six guys here. 0:42:09.860 --> 0:42:11.860 Fans come up in here? I mean, it was just different. 0:42:11.900 --> 0:42:13.859 Mary Kay Cabot's there. Where is everybody at? 0:42:13.950 --> 0:42:17.090 Why is this guy Eric and PR turning the blinds 0:42:17.130 --> 0:42:17.630 down on us? 0:42:17.710 --> 0:42:19.910 It was Eric Mangini. We couldn't look outside. At a 0:42:19.910 --> 0:42:20.969 certain point in time, he had to go. 0:42:21.010 --> 0:42:21.629 Locked in a room. 0:42:21.670 --> 0:42:24.830 Right, locked in a room. It was just different. 0:42:25.750 --> 0:42:28.550 It's funny. The Dallas Morning News back in the 80s 0:42:28.610 --> 0:42:30.430 and 90s was like that. When you left to go 0:42:30.469 --> 0:42:33.990 somewhere else, you'd just be like, oh, y'all don't turn 0:42:34.090 --> 0:42:36.410 in this and you don't have three-week plans in advance 0:42:36.450 --> 0:42:38.529 of what you're doing and you don't have to put 0:42:38.590 --> 0:42:41.750 charts with every story. 0:42:41.770 --> 0:42:45.470 Is anybody good talking? Struggling for sound bites? 0:42:45.570 --> 0:42:49.840 And then the head coach was, you know, actually Bill 0:42:50.340 --> 0:42:52.379 in Cleveland was a lot better than Bill in New England. 0:42:52.460 --> 0:42:55.400 But still, it was Jimmy and Barry. 0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:56.819 It was like, oh, okay. 0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.719 To your point, Shawnee needs to start winning games on 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:03.140 a consistent basis. And now would be a good time 0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:03.460 to start. 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.110 Cause he hadn't even won. I mean, they can't even 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:05.620 win two in a row. 0:43:05.890 --> 0:43:07.529 I was going to say last year they won what? 0:43:07.610 --> 0:43:08.290 Three in a row. 0:43:08.590 --> 0:43:09.250 And then that's it. 0:43:09.250 --> 0:43:11.190 And it was the most unlikely three in a row ever. 0:43:11.930 --> 0:43:13.610 And then they lost three in a row. 0:43:13.930 --> 0:43:16.810 He could use that now. Three in a row. 0:43:16.850 --> 0:43:17.709 Time is now, baby. 0:43:18.110 --> 0:43:20.870 I mean, literally he could use that right now. And 0:43:21.270 --> 0:43:21.650 it comes. 0:43:22.610 --> 0:43:25.230 If not now, when, as you said, Jalen hurts is 0:43:25.290 --> 0:43:28.750 not playing this week. Uh, Clearly, Washington has some issues, 0:43:28.890 --> 0:43:31.550 and the Giants are out here with a backup quarterback. 0:43:31.830 --> 0:43:34.980 Jackson darts out. If you don't win, it's going to 0:43:35.020 --> 0:43:35.520 be real. 0:43:35.739 --> 0:43:38.000 New York leads the division this late in the season 0:43:38.020 --> 0:43:41.620 for the first time since 2015. Tom Coughlin and Eli 0:43:41.700 --> 0:43:44.760 Manning were the head coach and the quarterback. He's got 0:43:44.930 --> 0:43:48.229 Jameis Winston. You can't beat Jameis Winston in four months? 0:43:49.300 --> 0:43:53.609 Jameis Jameis, 30 for 30. Hey, look, if not, now when? 0:43:53.950 --> 0:43:56.210 It's going to be interesting. It will be very interesting. 0:43:56.310 --> 0:43:58.750 This is the American League West. 0:44:00.010 --> 0:44:00.780 Football. 0:44:00.860 --> 0:44:02.620 It's bad. It's not good. 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.040 It's not good. All right. 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.560 We get out of here. Let's do the survivor pick here. 0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:11.859 I'm going to take an Indy. 0:44:12.989 --> 0:44:13.850 JJT, who you got? 0:44:13.950 --> 0:44:16.810 I've been vacillating the entire show. I'm going to be 0:44:16.830 --> 0:44:19.250 with you. We can go down together. I'm going to 0:44:19.270 --> 0:44:19.850 take the Colts. 0:44:19.950 --> 0:44:22.030 You both have been down a couple times already, I think. 0:44:22.250 --> 0:44:24.330 I don't know if you've ever gone down together, but 0:44:24.350 --> 0:44:29.259 you've been down, both of you. That's what it just said. 0:44:29.390 --> 0:44:30.430 It's not. 0:44:31.660 --> 0:44:34.420 Under the guise of not being dirty. That's the worst part. 0:44:34.580 --> 0:44:39.100 I'm going to take the Colts. Really? I've already taken 0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:42.089 the Rams, I think. And Nick's taking the Rams, I think, 0:44:42.110 --> 0:44:43.029 against the Cardinals, right? 0:44:43.469 --> 0:44:44.069 Yeah. 0:44:44.090 --> 0:44:46.629 We're all betting against the— we' re not picking a team. We're 0:44:46.650 --> 0:44:47.530 picking a team to lose. 0:44:47.950 --> 0:44:48.129 Right. 0:44:48.150 --> 0:44:49.370 We're not going to try to pick the team that's 0:44:49.390 --> 0:44:50.939 going to win. We're picking the team that's going to lose. 0:44:51.020 --> 0:44:52.660 That's the game I was going to pick, the other one. 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:54.960 Yeah, Indy's— And nobody loses like the Titans. 0:44:55.180 --> 0:44:59.300 Yeah, Indy's got Tennessee. All right, Packers, Green, and Dallas. 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.490 You know, I think the Cowboys, aside from Tampa Bay, 0:45:01.550 --> 0:45:03.850 play some of the most entertaining games. I think Sunday 0:45:03.890 --> 0:45:06.840 night's going to be another one, and— I'd like to 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:08.380 see them win because I don't want the season to 0:45:08.420 --> 0:45:10.740 be over this early. But I think the Packers win 0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:11.420 it 37-30. 0:45:11.540 --> 0:45:15.660 I cannot bet on this defense, and I won't bet 0:45:15.700 --> 0:45:18.690 on this defense until they prove me wrong. And this 0:45:18.730 --> 0:45:21.069 may be the week they prove me wrong, but I'm 0:45:21.090 --> 0:45:25.209 taking Green Bay 37-30. That's what they average. Two teams average. 0:45:25.370 --> 0:45:26.930 Wow, you picked the same score. How about this? 0:45:26.969 --> 0:45:27.680 Did you pick that 37-30? 0:45:27.690 --> 0:45:28.870 Yeah, he said 37-30. 0:45:28.890 --> 0:45:28.940 34-17. 0:45:34.370 --> 0:45:34.910 Thank you, Ed. 0:45:34.930 --> 0:45:36.049 Boy, he changed that now. 0:45:36.450 --> 0:45:37.109 Wow. 0:45:37.150 --> 0:45:37.609 Bad juju. 0:45:37.630 --> 0:45:40.169 He had that on the tip of his tongue. What's 0:45:40.190 --> 0:45:41.450 Chris Beam going with? 0:45:41.489 --> 0:45:43.570 What about Chris Beam? What was he doing? 0:45:43.610 --> 0:45:44.770 I'm going to go with Indy, by the way. 0:45:44.930 --> 0:45:45.810 Yeah. 0:45:45.850 --> 0:45:47.200 Everybody's on Indy? I'm going to go Indy. 0:45:48.420 --> 0:45:48.560 Wow. 0:45:49.980 --> 0:45:51.240 A lot of pressure for Daniel Jones. 0:45:51.540 --> 0:45:51.880 Okay. 0:45:52.100 --> 0:45:55.540 CB's got Indy. I'm still undecided. That's what I got 0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:55.820 to get to. 0:45:55.860 --> 0:45:56.400 On the Cowboys? 0:45:56.540 --> 0:45:58.140 Yeah. 0:45:58.180 --> 0:45:59.180 What more do you need to know? 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:00.640 I got a whole list here. 0:46:00.660 --> 0:46:01.259 What do you want? 0:46:01.300 --> 0:46:03.500 What do you want to know? Ask me a question. 0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:04.819 I'll give you, tell you what you should do. 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:06.540 I mean, the cop out is real. 0:46:08.580 --> 0:46:08.860 I don't know. 0:46:08.900 --> 0:46:11.029 I think, I don't know. Did Damon put the morning 0:46:11.070 --> 0:46:13.200 news picks out? Yeah, I think I might've already, I 0:46:13.219 --> 0:46:15.310 think it's already committed. I think I've already committed. I 0:46:15.930 --> 0:46:19.839 think I've already committed. And, um, Did I go with 0:46:19.860 --> 0:46:21.020 that hater Calvin Watson? 0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.680 Christian Watson had three touchdown catches as a rookie against 0:46:23.700 --> 0:46:24.340 Dallas the last time. 0:46:24.500 --> 0:46:24.779 I know. 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:25.379 I know. 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:26.370 It was bombs away, too. 0:46:26.420 --> 0:46:27.680 Anthony Brown was out there. 0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:28.200 Crack, crack. 0:46:30.050 --> 0:46:31.009 Yeah, I think I do. 0:46:31.090 --> 0:46:31.330 No. 0:46:31.410 --> 0:46:31.990 Pick Dallas. 0:46:32.310 --> 0:46:35.350 Make it interesting. I might have. 0:46:35.489 --> 0:46:35.750 I might. 0:46:35.790 --> 0:46:37.930 Hey, look, it'd be good for me because it means 0:46:37.950 --> 0:46:39.690 the game's on our station and it means we got 0:46:39.730 --> 0:46:42.880 people on the hopium again all happy. 0:46:42.950 --> 0:46:43.440 Hook me up. 0:46:44.170 --> 0:46:47.790 They all want that Jerry Pack, Blue Magic Jerry Pack. 0:46:47.969 --> 0:46:51.530 Intravenous. Give it to me, intravenous. Give me the needle. 0:46:51.890 --> 0:46:56.210 Hall of Famer Edward, enjoy the game. Jock Taylor, the author, 0:46:56.450 --> 0:46:57.989 upcoming with a book here soon. 0:46:58.030 --> 0:47:00.020 It's going to be good. It's going to be good. 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:00.420 Football. 0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:01.239 It's a coloring book. 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:05.779 Gosh, coloring. Stop it. It's an iconic sports hero. 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