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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in fris Joan Sat and now your hosts Isaiah

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Speaker 1: stand Back Heck, My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: It's a Monday morning edition of Talking Cowboys presented by

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeomans, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back, My Harrison and

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Speaker 1: then Aaron Gonzalez run of things in the back has

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Speaker 1: his combs open in my ear throughout the course of

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Speaker 1: the show. But we've got some fun things to talk

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Speaker 1: about throughout this show as well. We'll be on for

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Speaker 1: the next hour up until twelve thirty. And we've got

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillipson studio. How about that for the first time

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Speaker 1: since the pandemic and I am super excited about that. Rob.

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Speaker 1: How are we doing today? It's good to see you

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Speaker 1: in person without a mask. I know it's kind of crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we always is one thing, but actually in studio this

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Speaker 1: is this is special. Now we need to get all

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Speaker 1: four all four. Everybody, let's get the let's get the

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Speaker 1: band back, get the gang back together, or just together

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Speaker 1: for the first time, because we've had two shows over

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Speaker 1: the course of this crew that have been in person,

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Speaker 1: and that was in front of an RV outside. That

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Speaker 1: was the only times we've ever been. It was very

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Speaker 1: frigid out there, Kyle, it was frigid. And then the

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Speaker 1: other show you were like twenty five minutes late too,

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Speaker 1: because you were running in the Tesla my zero to

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Speaker 1: sixty speed. Okay, don't you just me I'm jealous, Guys,

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Speaker 1: I want to say that right now, Rob I'm jealous

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Speaker 1: that you are in studio. Zay has been in studio.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I mean, at some point, man, you definitely

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Speaker 1: a step cousin right now. Heck, you're definitely a step cousin.

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Speaker 1: How I'm feeling, I am feeling like but listen, talk

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Speaker 1: about Hey, look when we talk about getting the band

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Speaker 1: back together? By chance, Rob P, did you get a

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Speaker 1: chance to check out the Isley Brothers and Earth Wind

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Speaker 1: and Fire on versus last night on Instagram? I would

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Speaker 1: take that as a note no, no, hang on, hang on, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what I didn't see the I didn't

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Speaker 1: have the volume up, but I sure saw the visual.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. No, man,

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Speaker 1: you talk about fun last night. I'm just for old school,

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Speaker 1: for the old school guys like myself. That Isasley Brothers,

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Speaker 1: earth Wind and fire Man. It's like those are vintage

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Speaker 1: classic groups. They had a versus on Instagrams. It's a

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Speaker 1: good night for R and B. You know, look, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a part of the TikTok generation, not either,

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Speaker 1: speaking of speaking wait a minute, Wait a minute, though,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, but got a point to speaking of

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Speaker 1: TikTok generation ologie Kyle Yeoman's Hey guys, I love you

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Speaker 1: like a step nephew, But what are you doing? What

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Speaker 1: the things you do for love? Yeah? Zaiah, his bad

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Speaker 1: card is on a ninety days to speech? Whoas bringing up?

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Speaker 1: It's ninety days? Why back for ninety days? You you

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta see it to believe it. That's

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Speaker 1: all I gotta say about it. I RS just hit up,

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Speaker 1: just hit up his Instagram story and yeah, your day's

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Speaker 1: made basically, yeah, just just it's on the Instagram. It's

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Speaker 1: also on the Twitter. There's a couple of different versions.

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Speaker 1: We get it multiple times. But I'm I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: shocked that the confidence level wasn't awarded with this because

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Speaker 1: I felt like I got out there and I owned it.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay, that's okay, I got I got some

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Speaker 1: positive feedback, that's true. That's true. That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I had some positive feedback from it. But it was fun.

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Speaker 1: Basically for those of you listen thing who you aren't

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Speaker 1: and on the joke and go follow me at Kyle

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Speaker 1: Underscore Yeoman's and go look at the video. It was

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Speaker 1: a TikTok dance with my girlfriend Laurina, who basically during

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Speaker 1: Easter dinner was like, hey, let's go out and let's

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Speaker 1: go out and do a TikTok dance. So I did,

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Speaker 1: and I owned it and it was fantastic. She was

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Speaker 1: way better than I was, which is understandable. But that's

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Speaker 1: what we did doing Eastern Gun. You're lucky. I can't

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Speaker 1: see stories on the computer. You gotta check it in

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Speaker 1: the break man. We'll pull it up and make sure

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Speaker 1: everybody does. But hope everybody had a very safe and

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Speaker 1: wonderful Easter weekend and was able to celebrate and or

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Speaker 1: relax and just have a good weekend. But well, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have another weekend on their schedule coming up in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Seventeen games approved through the NFL and

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Speaker 1: the owners meetings last week. That was something that we

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Speaker 1: really the Collective Bargaining Agreement prior to the twenty twenty season,

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Speaker 1: that seventeen games was going to be a thing. Well, Rob,

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Speaker 1: it's now a thing. And the Cowboys are going to

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Speaker 1: play the New England Patriots on the road, So nine

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Speaker 1: road games, eight home games in twenty twenty one, something

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Speaker 1: that I know the Cowboys aren't necessarily excited about, but

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Speaker 1: the NFL is pretty excited about it. Oh, it's money, money, money,

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Speaker 1: money for money, and it is one well it's not

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Speaker 1: one less preseason game this year, it will be going

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Speaker 1: forward because the Cowboys my understanding, they're still gonna have

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Speaker 1: four preseason games because of the Hall of Fame game,

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Speaker 1: you have the actual exhibition schedule. So I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: it's not Tom Brady, but it's a lot of football,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's the Pats on the road, and and

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Speaker 1: heck was going down the schedule, the road schedule, it

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Speaker 1: is not. It's not friendly for the Cowboys in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, even though they've got technically a third place

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Speaker 1: scheduled this next coming season. Oh gosh. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: look at some of the teams that they're gonna they're

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Speaker 1: gonna face, it's something that you're gonna have to be

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Speaker 1: really really on point about if you're gonna find the

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Speaker 1: way around that schedule. Is that is that a January

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Speaker 1: game in New England? We don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think they're probably gonna announce the schedule in the

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Speaker 1: last year it was right after my birthday, which is

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Speaker 1: the first week in May. That would suck. Just yes,

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Speaker 1: for those that don't have never played in New England,

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Speaker 1: were we going to say about the opponents there? No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about third place and typically you get,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe not the toughest schedule, but that is

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Speaker 1: we got a pretty were about our road games are

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty tough, so stout, Yeah, it is that, but

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Speaker 1: you know, when it comes down to the seventeen game

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Speaker 1: season when they announced it. I'm just one of those people.

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Speaker 1: And then just for my own selfish reasons, I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 1: more football. And you know, you know, the NFL is

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Speaker 1: attention to supply and demand, and the demand is there

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Speaker 1: for more football. They incorporated an extra playoff game last year,

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Speaker 1: extra game. So I'm really interested in hearing what Isaiah

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Speaker 1: to be too happy about it. Yeah. No, I mean

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Speaker 1: from the physical standpoint, obviously, I don't know all the

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Speaker 1: their health, insurance, you know, post you know, post career

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Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Those are the things that

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Speaker 1: your body's your body's done. I mean you're talking about

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Speaker 1: right so, I know fans are out there hype right now,

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Speaker 1: and now we're talking about seventeen regular season games. So

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Speaker 1: you're talking you take seventeen games that matter, right, and

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Speaker 1: then you factor in, you know, two preseason games where

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Speaker 1: you're starters, right, because everybody says, well all the starters

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Speaker 1: don't play, it's about one and a half games where

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Speaker 1: the starters playing in preseason, right, So let's call it

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Speaker 1: eighteen and a half games. And then, oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if your team is good, you go to the playoffs. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's thing called the playoffs. I know some you know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully we we learned a little bit more about that

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Speaker 1: going forward. But that gives us nineteen nineteen games twenty

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Right. So that's a lot of football.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of banging. If you're an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: you're playing sixty plus snaps a game, you were hitting

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Speaker 1: times twenty two potentially, right, seventeen Guaranteed you're talking about

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Speaker 1: obviously you've gotta most people are gonna say, hey, you

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Speaker 1: understand that, you know the demands that come with the game.

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Speaker 1: Very true. You sign a country, you understand it. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you that you become negligent when it

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Speaker 1: rebuild without Drew Brees. But yikes, I mean, Rob, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's a road team that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: to be in twenty twenty one. That sounds like a

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Speaker 1: first place schedule. Honestly, if you and if you look

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Speaker 1: Giants should be better, Eagles could be better, Washington's definitely

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Speaker 1: a improving team, Arizona, Atlanta, Carolina, Denver Raiders. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't you look at all those teams and say

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Speaker 1: that's a winnable game that's also a losable game. So goodness,

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Speaker 1: on paper, it doesn't look like an easy schedule for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys in twenty twenty one. And yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to draw a road game against Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: no matter who the quarterback is. Camp Newton's still an

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be eighteen at some point, right, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: two preseason games. But you know it comes down to money,

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Speaker 1: and look at players agree to it as what's more

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Speaker 1: money for the players. But Isaiah's right. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: September late September as well. But it's just it's the

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Speaker 1: it's the nature of the sport. It's a it's a grind. Man.

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Speaker 1: What kind of team is going to be more well

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Speaker 1: or is it gonna be fresh legs Because I kind

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Speaker 1: do say? I had twenty twelve and a half vision. Heckma, wow, gracious,

427
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Speaker 1: come on with this, with this perfect vision that I have.

428
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Speaker 1: I saw something very disturbing a second ago during the break,

429
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Speaker 1: and I happened to go to TikTok twitter account for

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Speaker 1: Kyle Human's Twitter account, and he had that he mentioned

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show. Um, and um, it

432
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Speaker 1: was terrible. It was actually terrible. It was it was

433
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Speaker 1: a it was a it was it was a lack heckmaum.

434
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Speaker 1: I know we just talked about Earth when to fire

435
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: it and Isaac brothers and how much rhythm that they have,

436
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: and this is a lack thereof rhythm. And I was wondering, um,

437
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Speaker 1: with a with a clear eyed view, did you guys

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Speaker 1: witness the same thing that I saw? Oh goodness, how

439
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: about this. I would challenge all three of you to

440
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Speaker 1: a dance off and we'll make a TikTok together if

441
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: we have to, because I feel like my moves would

442
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: still be better than both of y'all's. I can't. I

443
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: can't do better than that. I'm better. Thank you, Thank you. Rob.

444
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying it was good. I'm not saying it was good.

445
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: I still think I think my moves would be better

446
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: than all of yours and I will dance it, Isaiah,

447
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: We'll do it tomorrow. Whenever we film Hit Sticks, we'll

448
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: do it tomorrow. I'm not doing it. We're gonna do

449
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: it TikTok tomorrow. It's going to happen, wed N. It's

450
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Yes, what's what's happening? All right?

451
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: We're done talking about TikTok. We're gonna talk about the

452
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys because we have to, because you know, it's

453
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: talking cowboys, not talking TikTok. But anyways, I had a

454
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: lot of fun filming that TikTok, and we did not

455
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun watching the Dallas Cowboys in

456
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, especially when it came to the really the circle,

457
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: the revolving door, that was the offensive line, and that

458
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: was the quarterback position. I had a conversation with one

459
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: of our good friends, Jerry Matillon this past weekend, and

460
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: whenever I was talking with g Matt he said his

461
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: favorite teas of mine a year ago was whenever I

462
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: said is Dak Prescott going to be the starting quarterback?

463
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: And everybody kind of looked at me and was like,

464
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Speaker 1: what you kidding me? Well, guess what for all about?

465
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: Five games. Dak Prescott was not the starting quarterback in

466
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So that's what brings me to my next question.

467
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Speaker 1: I think we need to talk about the plan that's

468
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Speaker 1: at hand for the Dallas Cowboys. What is the backup

469
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: scenario if things go a rid again? Because right now

470
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: it looks like Garrett Gilbert and then on the offensive

471
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: line it looks like it's Titans Niseki and Terrence Steel

472
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,719
Speaker 1: and Brandon Knight again. So Rob, tell me what is

473
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: the plan for the Cowboys if things don't necessarily go

474
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: to plan like they thought, like it happened in twenty twenty.

475
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 1: I think you just said it. You got TRIPLEG in boxing,

476
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: you got double G here if things don't go well

477
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: for Dak for whatever reason. I mean, now, look both.

478
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Speaker 1: I'll qualify that by saying the draft is in a

479
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: month less than a month, and look, there might be

480
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Speaker 1: an option that comes up somewhere in the middle rounds

481
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Speaker 1: later rounds. Same with offensive tackle too. I know we've

482
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Speaker 1: debated offensive tackles. She maybe be a high draft pick,

483
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: but at the quarterback position, I'm interested to see if

484
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Speaker 1: they make a veteran signing. At this point, I'm not

485
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Speaker 1: so sure they will. They've got Garrett Gilbert's set for

486
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: nine hundred and twenty thousand bucks on his twenty twenty

487
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 1: one contract, and you're looking at some of the guys

488
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: available now in free agency, I don't know if they,

489
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: you know, depending on what they would want to spend,

490
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if you would find a major upgrade

491
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 1: behind Dak Prescott this year. So they may do something

492
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: they haven't done for most of the past decade. And

493
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: that's just kind of role with a guy who's relatively unproven. Well,

494
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: one of the things I think we learned is having

495
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: a QB one level backup quarterback is a luxury item.

496
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Speaker 1: It really is. And you know, you don't want to

497
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Speaker 1: find out once your main guy goes down, if you're

498
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: gonna be stuck with a guy that can't get it

499
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: done because our offense fell off a cliff last year,

500
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Speaker 1: once you know, Dak went down, and you know, when

501
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: you talk about luxury, it was Look. I'm reminded of

502
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: a flight that I took from Dallas to Los Angeles

503
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Speaker 1: and a guy sitting next to me had on a

504
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: Autumnar Piquette Royal Oak, which is a quarter of a

505
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: million dollar watch. That's a luxury, right, especially when you

506
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: could get a watch for five dollars from Walmartin. So

507
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: luxury versus necessity, you know, And right now those things

508
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: are meeting the road for the Dallas Cowboys because we

509
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: don't want to find out, God forbid, if that goes

510
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: down again like he did versus New York That and

511
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton comes off the bench and we're expecting him

512
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: to Wally Pip dak Isaiah and that doesn't and that

513
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Garret Gilbert, he came in and we found

514
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: out just through necessity what he can do, and I

515
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: think I felt comfortable with going with him. But I

516
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: don't want to find out over the course of eleven

517
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: games or twelve games, that Garret Gilbert is not the

518
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: guy that we thought he was. So bringing in Teddy

519
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: bridge Water, Tyrod Taylor or Jacobe Bissett, who I know

520
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: signed with the Dolphins, but that kind of a player

521
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: that has been there in a backup role and had

522
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: some success. So you know, whether it be in the

523
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Speaker 1: late rounds for the draft like Rob talked about, or

524
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: still combing these NFL rosters and finding the guy we

525
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: need to get that autumn mar Piquette for the Dallas shoot.

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Speaker 1: Can we um, Can we talk about the fact that,

527
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: first of all, I've never even heard of this watch?

528
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Speaker 1: The second of all, how that why the heck does

529
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Speaker 1: Heckman know what these watches look like? Is anybody else

530
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: not wondering about this? Can't have money? You can't have money,

531
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Speaker 1: Isaiah ESPN money, ESPN money, Exactly what it is? I

532
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: can't tell me, can't tell him nothing. No, I'm gonna

533
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna gree this with my guy heck over there,

534
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: miss fancy watch um. And I believe that if there's

535
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Speaker 1: a guy, if there's a person that, as I'm looking

536
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Speaker 1: at this free agent list over here, if there's a

537
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Speaker 1: person that I would feel confident paying a certain amount

538
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: comfortable amounts, you know, some of the along the lines

539
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: of the Gilbert uh, I would say, I will go

540
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: out and try to grab Blaine Gabbert. Blaine Gabbert is

541
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Speaker 1: a size wise, athleticism wise, um arm strength wise. I

542
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: think he's good. Oh and by the way, he just

543
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: spent a year behind TB twelve. So I think if

544
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Speaker 1: there's a person that you can go out and get

545
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: for about a million dollars, that's a guy that I

546
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: would go grab simply because he's healthy. He's healthy, he's

547
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: still athletic, and he has more wizard than he had

548
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: when he was out there at Jacksonville throwing I and ts.

549
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: So I think I would bring him in and have

550
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: him just be the consistent person that you know is

551
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: knowledgeable and experience already, just to be there at just

552
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: in case, so that you're not wasting the extra money

553
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: on guys that hopefully don't touch the field we know

554
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: they're interested in and possibly upgrading that spot. Mike mccarthin

555
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: basically said as much. But it does come down to money,

556
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't know, you know, salary cap space.

557
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: It's always kind of a moving target. They've got to

558
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: be up against the cap at this point. I mean,

559
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: when you think about they if they got a slot

560
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: eight to ten million bucks for the draft draft class,

561
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Speaker 1: I don't think unless they want to touch another contract

562
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: or two and restructure there, it's tied up against the

563
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: cap right now. And look, they spent three million on

564
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: Dalton last year. That could go up to five and

565
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: you know mentioned Brissette guys, I think he was five

566
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Speaker 1: million signed with Miami. Tyrod Taylor five point five, Mitchell

567
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: Trubisky two point five. You know, Chase McDaniel. I think

568
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: it's not for about one point one the other day

569
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 1: to go I think to La with a charger, So

570
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you go down the list. The guy that

571
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: jumps out to me is Alex Smith, and I know

572
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: he's he's coming off a major injury, and I know

573
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: he's not. He's got injury history too. You're talking about, hey,

574
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: trying to protect yourself with that coming off an injury.

575
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: But as a guy that's done it, you know, and

576
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: been in the league for a long time, he's got

577
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: a history with Mike McCarthy going back to the start

578
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: of his career. I thought he did some good things

579
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: last year for Washington. Again though, money, what do you

580
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: want to spend? And they I think I think heck

581
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: nailed the word. It's luxury. You know, is it a

582
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: luxury this year to spend as much on a backup

583
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: quarterback this year after spending the largest contract in Cowboys

584
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: history on the quarterback position earlier this month last month,

585
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: Pete Pete came, you not a four too, Like it's this,

586
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: that's the question. And I know we talked a lot

587
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: about that when it comes down to the contract. But

588
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: now that we've gotten this done, those health issues are

589
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: still there. I mean, that was a massive injury that

590
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: he had last year, right, and if he's healed from it,

591
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: all of those things he has, he's gonna be your

592
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: starting quarterback no matter what. But if something does happen

593
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: to him, we're not confident. I don't think anyone is

594
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: confident in Garrett Gilbert for whatever stretch of time that

595
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: he'd have to start. And with the culmination of injuries

596
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: that we had in twenty twenty with the offensive line,

597
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, God, it just makes me sit just thinking

598
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: about it. But if you put the same thing happened

599
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: to Gilbert this year, where you don't have an offensive line,

600
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: the defense is really we're right back to square one

601
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: on that. So I just don't think that you can

602
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: afford to give a discount double check at the quarterback.

603
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: You gotta get a guy that you know is viable

604
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: or you believe him. Well. I want to kind of

605
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate here a little bit hack up, because

606
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: maybe last year as sure a warning to say you

607
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: would rather have a starting caliber quarterback as your backup quarterback.

608
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: That one percent could be the case, but it could

609
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: also go the other way and say, Okay, we had

610
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: a starting caliber backup quarterback and we still went six

611
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: and ten and we still didn't win a ton of

612
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: games without Dak Prescott. So maybe it's one of those

613
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: things of if Dak Prescott's not playing, you may be

614
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: in a hole already to where it is a quote

615
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: unquote luxury and it's something that you don't necessarily need

616
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: to add instead add elsewhere. I think with a backup,

617
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm if you

618
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: can tread water and you go five hundred sure with

619
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback feeling pretty good. That's why Alex Smith jumps.

620
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: I know he's thirty seven, and I know I don't

621
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: even know what if he wants to keep playing, he's

622
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: still out there. They went five and four, Washington did

623
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: with him as as their quarterback last year, and you know,

624
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm with heck. I think they got to do something,

625
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: But I don't think. I don't think they can spend

626
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: unless they really dip into other money and moving around.

627
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: You know, Eagles spend three and a half million bucks

628
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: on Joe Flacco. I just don't know if they can

629
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: do that this year. Yeah, Isaiah, Yeah, that's that's why.

630
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: That's why I was going with the Blaine train, because

631
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Blaine last year made what one point he may just

632
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: over a million, Yeah, just over a million. If you're

633
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: saying that we're Gilbert, you know, nine hundred and something,

634
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about one hundred thousand dollars difference, and you

635
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: feel a lot better. But with Blaine Gabbert and his

636
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: ability seeing Gary Gilbert, I would hope. And I think

637
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: when you start looking at that backup position, you need

638
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: somebody we found out last year, you need somebody that

639
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: kind of fits the mold of what you already have.

640
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: So you need somebody who at the very least if

641
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: your office a line goes down. And I think that's

642
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: the element that we didn't bring up just a second ago.

643
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: You know, with any Dalton stepan In, he didn't play great,

644
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: but he also didn't have the best situation, and so

645
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: if that situation was to rise again, you need somebody

646
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: who could get out the pocket to make some place

647
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: right at least use their legs. And that's why that's

648
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: why I'm kind of going along with you know, I

649
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: like the tyred Taylors and things like that, but he

650
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: costs too much. So for the price you can get

651
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: you a blame for Amelie. You do that because you know,

652
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: at the very least he can at least throw the

653
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: ball down the field and he at least has an

654
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: athleticism to get out of the pocket. Now I agree

655
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: with that, Isaiah Blank, Gabert, Garrett Gilbert, whoever you go with.

656
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: And I think for Garrett Gilbert, I feel as though

657
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: him being at the foot of Kevin Moore for an

658
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: offseason and you know two of days is going to

659
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: serve him well. So if he is going to be

660
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: the guy that we're gonna go with, we still have

661
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: to remember we have been the Nucci also, and so

662
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: his look he sees so all things, all things being considered,

663
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: we still we have things there. Just you know, trying

664
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: to think of what the front office is thinking with

665
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback situation is going to be interesting because

666
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: we know what happened when Dak went down, all those

667
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: injuries hit. It was just it wasn't a good situation.

668
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: And you know you do still have Cooper Rush on

669
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: a reserve future contract. Wow, so he's an option. He's

670
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: been the backup before. Let's not forget his name, but

671
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: we if we are we off of the the Garrett

672
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: Gilbert Pittsburgh game, or if the shine kind of worn

673
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: off on that one, because I thought we all felt like, man,

674
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: that was he went out and bawled a certain degree.

675
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: But now we're kind of like, yeah, I don't know,

676
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: looking back, they lost the game. I think we got

677
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: a sample. We got a sample size. We got a

678
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: sample size. I called him, y'all, y'ah Gilbert. I felt good.

679
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we had nothing in the cover at that point,

680
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: so I just felt like, come on, man, he looked

681
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: good in the loss, right, Yes, you look good at

682
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: a loss. He made a really good HECMA made a

683
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: really good point earlier when talking about Garrett Gilbert and

684
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 1: said that we felt good about him in spots scenarios.

685
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna put him out there for seven

686
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: games and teams are gonna have film on him and

687
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 1: it's gonna be him as the backup quarterback, I don't

688
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: feel the same way. Plus, you're talking about one game

689
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: where there was zero expectation. He was coming off of

690
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: the Danucci game. Yes you serro expectations. Yeah, as long

691
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: as he didn't go out there and just all apart,

692
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: which he didn't. He didn't fall apart, credit to Garret Gilbert,

693
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: but that was the expectation was, Okay, we may have

694
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: another fall apart game against an undefeated Pittsburgh team, and

695
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: he didn't. It was like, Okay, here we go, Garret Gilbert.

696
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: This thing's legit. Like it just wasn't. It wasn't something

697
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: that's representative of what a backup quarterback should be. But

698
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: heck hit on Kellen Moore. Remember they were I think

699
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: in Detroit together for a little bit briefly, so that

700
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: was one of the reasons why I think they were

701
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: comfortable bringing him in good point. Maybe they feel like, yeah,

702
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: with an offseason, but I think Mike McCarthy, he's a

703
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: quarterback guy, and I bet you he would like to

704
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: create some more competition there if he could. We'll see

705
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: what they do. I don't think the draft is to me.

706
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't think spending a draft pick on a quarterback.

707
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it makes sense. But they have ten

708
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: of them, so you never know. Take one of these

709
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: late round guys and add another Dnucci into the factor.

710
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: After taking him in the seventh last year, Tyrod Taylor's available, Yes,

711
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: not available. I went to spo Track says he's in Houston. Okay,

712
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: that's right, exactly five point five million dollars. He is

713
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: not available. So I see people in the chat right

714
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: now saying Tyrod Taylor, Yeah, he's not available, so he

715
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: is out of the question. But I think even five

716
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: point five my goodness, that's a lot for a backup. Course.

717
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: I just mentioned him. I just mentioned him as a

718
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: guy that has done it as a backup before. Sure,

719
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: that's yes what I'm saying, And he'll move. He'll be

720
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: the safety net for whatever happens with Deshaun Watson and

721
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: Houston is ultimately what that ends up being. Really quickly, Isaiah,

722
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: you also brought up the offensive line, and we've got

723
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: about three or four minutes until we go to break,

724
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: But how are you feeling about the offensive line health?

725
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: How are we feeling about Tyrann Smith and Lyle Collins

726
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: coming back? Because I feel like we're halfway through or

727
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: I guess not halfway through the off season, but we're

728
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: a significant amount through the off season and we're starting

729
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: to look ahead till we get to maybe training camp,

730
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: and if training camp is the same as it was

731
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: last year, then Lyle Collins needs to be ready to go.

732
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: How were feeling about those two guys in the health

733
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: of this offensive line as we head into the remainder

734
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: of the off season. I don't know, Kyle, I haven't

735
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: seen them. I haven't seen those guys well, not even

736
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: just talking about it, not even just specifically on seeing

737
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: them with your own eyes. But based off of last

738
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: year going into this year, is there anything that gives

739
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: you pause about these guys? No, I mean we need them.

740
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean we definitely need them. I feel confident that

741
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 1: those guys are on the right track to becoming healthy.

742
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: If they're not already healthy, otherwise these guys, they wouldn't

743
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: have got their their their contracts moved around. I still

744
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: believe that we need a good amount of competition at

745
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: that position. Competition is good at every position, right, Let's

746
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: just let's just say that that way. We're not going

747
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: down every position saying we need competition. We need a

748
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: competition at every position. Office a line probably more important

749
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: than any other position to have the most competition aside

750
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: from a quarterback, right, just because that is the probably

751
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: the most of the next most important position are your underfield, right,

752
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: you need those guys to protect your your money man,

753
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: which is DAK. So if you have if you're two

754
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: to three deep at every position and everybody's busting their

755
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: busts and every day doesn't matter how much you're getting paid,

756
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: you have to show up and prove yourself. Then that

757
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: that creates a great environment and it's gonna match what

758
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: we're doing on the defense side of the ball. So

759
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: those guys, I think that they will be healthy coming back.

760
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: But again, just like just like we found out last year,

761
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: we need to prepare for the worst. Yeah, preparing for

762
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: the worst, and yeah, preparing for the worst is what

763
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: we what we did last year because of all the

764
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: injuries that we had. The labor for Lyle Collins scares

765
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: me and I hope that he's able to come back

766
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: from it and you know, able to start the season.

767
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith as well. I think the reputation that he's

768
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: gotten over the last five years is just not being

769
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: able to get through a full season. We know, if

770
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: Hill five games, six games, he's you know, at a

771
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Pro Bowl level every time he plays.

772
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: But that those things, we're not able to rely on

773
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: those and going into twenty twenty one. That's what we're

774
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna need is reliable guys. You know at each position,

775
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: especially with the length of the season being extended, how

776
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: much Tyrann Smith do we get. So when you talk

777
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: about that competition at every level, at every position, you know,

778
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: where do we go there? At the left tackle knowing

779
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: that that's that's the spot we definitely have to protect

780
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: dak In and especially with the money that we've played him.

781
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: So I don't even with Connor Williams and all the

782
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: other positions, be honest, I don't feel comfortable where we

783
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: are right now interior wise with our offensive line. So

784
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: it's definitely something we still have to look at and

785
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: address as well. I think Ni Seki could be an

786
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: upgrade over Kim Irvy if nothing else. Kim Irvy mis

787
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: ten games last year. It's true, and he's known. I

788
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: think he has a reputation as a pretty good spots

789
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: starter filling guy over his career. But to me, Zach Martins,

790
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: your swing tackle really comes down if it were me,

791
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: And maybe they don't want to do that, need they

792
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: they don't want to do that again, But that that's

793
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: why to me, it's like Connor McGovern is the guy

794
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: I've got my eye on in training camp preseason. Could

795
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: he be a guy if they really want to change

796
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: out two spots like they finally decided to do last year.

797
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: How do you feel about him a guard being an

798
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: NFL starter, Because when it comes right down to it,

799
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: Zach Martin playing tackle if you have to, that's the

800
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: best option they've got. And maybe Connor Williams can do

801
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: it too, But Zach Martin has proven he can play

802
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: anywhere in the NFL and play it near a pro

803
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: bowl level. If he's selfie, I feel like if we

804
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: didn't see Connor Williams at playing tackle last year, we

805
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: may never see Connor Williams play tackle. Probably not. And

806
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: I've actually heard you know, if anything, if he were

807
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: to move center might be a spot he could play

808
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: that as well. You know so, But honestly, I thought

809
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: he played pretty well last year. I know he gets

810
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, people get on him for his strength, and

811
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: he gets bull rushed and he gets tossed around at times.

812
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: But you also, Brian brought us always taught me it

813
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: comes down to you got to think of a sixty

814
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: snap game. If he has a couple of bad snaps. Yeah,

815
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: it could wreck a game, but what do you do

816
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: the other fifty eight? You know? And I thought he

817
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: played pretty well. Um, going into a contract year, this

818
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: would be big for him. It will be big. And

819
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: Connor Williams is one of those guys I thought he

820
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: played well. I know, I might be the only one

821
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: on the show. I don't know, but oh he's borderline.

822
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: That's that's the case. And right now with this offensive line.

823
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: Last year, you didn't need borderline from Connor Williams. You

824
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: needed him to take an extra step and he hasn't.

825
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: And as a second round pick, you're thinking that he's

826
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: gonna take an extra stap as a starter. He never has.

827
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: And I think that's where Connor Williams kind of catches

828
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: his his slack from it is not only because he

829
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: hasn't taken the extra step, but he's been a solid

830
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: average And that's kind of where I think we're all

831
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: looking at. Okay, don't you let Rob no, no, no.

832
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: He gots to know, you know, Pete, you know he

833
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: getting this move man where he's very empathetic and giving everybody.

834
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm not being apathetic. I honestly thought he was all

835
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: right last year. I really did. He was he was

836
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: on the field number. Yeah, well great, we love that

837
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: he was. You can't you'll get credit for that. And

838
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: the most example of bull rush Man they de run

839
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: payin from Washington. Oh my god, just tone on the tape. Man.

840
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: Connor had a He had a rough twenty twenty, as

841
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: we all did. But you know, hey, it's the contract year.

842
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be different this year. He's gonna need it.

843
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: If not, he's gonna get replaced by Rashaan Slater after

844
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: they pick him at ten. He's gonna play left guard.

845
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: That what's happened. Connor Williams will not be either starting line.

846
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just saying everybody, uh, just for just

847
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: for instance though and for numbers. But you mentioned how

848
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: much are we going to see if Tyrant Smith? Of course,

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Speaker 1: See now he's just he's just rolling us. Now, he's

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Speaker 1: just rolling us. Now. That was pretty just come. That

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Speaker 1: purposely not. He's trying to let us down. He's trying

921
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Speaker 1: to tell you, I, well, you've got another chance next week.

922
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Speaker 1: I look forward to this, man, I look forward to

923
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Speaker 1: this every Monday at twelve eighteen, and I just didn't

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Speaker 1: everyone that's listening to be able to get their copy

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927
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928
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929
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Speaker 1: It should be out this week. If it isn't, just

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Speaker 1: email Kurt Daniels. Rob Phillips even had some tight ends

931
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: to talk about. He talked about the defensive tackles as well.

932
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: You had a pretty tough task whenever it came to

933
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Speaker 1: talking about positions, because those are two of some of

934
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: the lighter ones with the exception of Kyle Pitts up

935
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Speaker 1: at the top of the tied end class. But I

936
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Speaker 1: want to talk about our pick at ten, which is

937
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Speaker 1: of course going to be the topic of conversation over

938
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Speaker 1: the next three weeks, and it has been for quite

939
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: some time. But what do we think the front office

940
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: is thinking? Because we can talk about what we want.

941
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: Of course I want Reshawn Slater or Patrick's rten those

942
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: are my two. Kyle Pitts I would be fine with.

943
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: It would be fun, but I don't necessarily want that. However,

944
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: what is this front office thinking, because nobody's really been

945
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: able to get a good read on it, about what

946
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: they may be looking at whenever their pick comes around

947
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: on April twenty nine. Well, I think the goal is

948
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 1: to take the best player, I truly, especially at ten.

949
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 1: You know, I think we always talk about best player available.

950
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: And is that a real thing or is that kind

951
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: of a myth? I think at ten you can take

952
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: the best available player and not worry about position needs

953
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: so much. And your goal is by this point you

954
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: filled all the needs you need to fill at least

955
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: to kind of cover yourself before the draft. Now, what's

956
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: up for debate is have they covered themselves at every position?

957
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know that they have. I mean, I

958
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: think cornerback, you canners wide open, you can still point

959
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: to that. I think you can still point a linebacker.

960
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Speaker 1: Even though Neil comes in as a potential weak side

961
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: guy for you. To me, there are still positions on

962
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 1: defense where you're like, they could use another more depth,

963
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: another impact guy more so than offense. But again, you

964
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Speaker 1: get yourself in trouble when you you start reaching for

965
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Speaker 1: a need as opposed to, Hey, I got a top

966
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Speaker 1: ten draft pick, I could find a perennial p perennial

967
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: pro bowler right here. Let's not mess this up, Tea Hook.

968
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: We have, Kyle. We have foundation problems here in the Cowboys.

969
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Speaker 1: Foundation got cracks in the foundation. And if you, hey,

970
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Speaker 1: if you live outside of Texas and you're thinking about

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Speaker 1: buying a home in Texas, just no, make sure your

972
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: foundation is right, because that's one of the big problems

973
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: that we have in this booming city of Dallas. But

974
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: the foundation, man and offensive line wise, has been the

975
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: foundation of our team for a number of years, and

976
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: now with injuries, that's falling apart and we're trying to

977
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: find some synergy there again, but the defensive line, I

978
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: don't think we ever found anything with our defensive line.

979
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: Even with the many the rotations that we nothing, we

980
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: could not find any impact players. I'm surprised that, you know,

981
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Speaker 1: we've got so much heat about wanting a linebacker at

982
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: pick number ten, where everyone else is trying to go

983
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: to the dB route. I look back at the draft

984
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Speaker 1: last year with Jeff Okuda from Ohio State that went

985
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: to Troy Right, Detroit gets this guy in the third

986
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 1: round and their defense was at the bottom. Last year.

987
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: They bring in a quarterback and guess where they finished

988
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: last year in the bottom again, back in the bottom.

989
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: So if you don't get a guy that's gonna make

990
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: any impacts, you don't do it through free agency. I

991
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: don't see how you can rebuild this team. And we

992
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: were just talking about the schedule that you're gonna play.

993
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna play some teams that have fortified offensive lines

994
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: that can run the ball on you. And what was

995
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: our problem last year stopping the run and getting sacks.

996
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how Patrick Cutain is going to help

997
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: us within that area. Now, if you want to say

998
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: best player available, fine, I'll go with that, and everybody

999
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: David Helman that's on the Kyle Pitts train. Cool. I

1000
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: know the guy is phenomenal, but that doesn't fix the problem.

1001
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: That doesn't fix the foundation, and you're gonna have some

1002
00:51:53,239 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: cracks if you go that route. Well, So I'm I'm

1003
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: of the mind where when it comes to the draft,

1004
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to address I don't address it. I

1005
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: don't I don't approach you with it with the mindset

1006
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: of let's get the best player. Reason being not in

1007
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: a position that the Cowboys are in. The Cowboys, we

1008
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: know the ownership wants to win. Now, let's put it

1009
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: like that. That's that's facts, right. I don't care what

1010
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: anybody wants to say. They want to win right now.

1011
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: So the best way to get to the point where

1012
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: you can win right now is secure the bag. What

1013
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean when I say secure the bag, secure a

1014
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Speaker 1: position group, Secure a position group. If you have an

1015
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: opportunity where we where's a position where we're closest to

1016
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Speaker 1: being just solid. We need one more person where we

1017
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, if we got one more dog

1018
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: in there, we can we can be all right, right,

1019
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: we can we can put this thing together. And we'll

1020
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: be a force to reckon with. You know, we just

1021
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: talked about you. Heck, we just alluded to a cornerback.

1022
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: I said it in the break name the last time

1023
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: you are afraid to throw at throw at two corners? No, yeah,

1024
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen. Right, So that's not a position

1025
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: that I'm just gonna go that. I feel like, I

1026
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: feel like I have to go acquire right now with

1027
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. When I when if I'm an

1028
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: offensive if I'm an offensive player off as a coordinator,

1029
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: I fear a solid front seven because that affects my run,

1030
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: that affects my ability to pass. So if I have

1031
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: ability to go out there and get a linebacker, if

1032
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: we can't get at KG right in free agency, then

1033
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: we need to go out there and get the dog

1034
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: on mad Man Varss. Okay, we need to get him

1035
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Speaker 1: six four, two forty five running a forty thirty nine.

1036
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Speaker 1: You get him because guess what you have three at

1037
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: that point. You have three solid linebackers right that some

1038
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: of them still need some coaching, but they're all athletic,

1039
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: and they're all big, and they all could run, right.

1040
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: So if you get three dogs in there, they are

1041
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: young hungry want to run around a hit and their

1042
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: athletic is all get out and they have size, and

1043
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: you put them behind some of what six seven, three

1044
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: and thirty pound defensive linement that you just brought in. Oh,

1045
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: you just brought it in a Now you just brought

1046
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: up a defensive and from New York. Oh, you're probably

1047
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Speaker 1: not done there either. Oh and by the way, Randy

1048
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: Gregory is some other guys. Now you're in d law.

1049
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about a front seven that can be

1050
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: feared by every appointent that you face. And you solidify

1051
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: a portion of your team that you feel one hundred

1052
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: percent confident with. Now you can go work towards the

1053
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Speaker 1: outside and start saying, hey, now this is what we Now,

1054
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Speaker 1: we have to make adjustments so that these guys don't

1055
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: receive pressure. But when you have gaping holes and you're

1056
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Speaker 1: trying to plug one hole over here, and plug a

1057
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Speaker 1: hole over here, plug this dog or a gap over here,

1058
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Speaker 1: and then worry about the little itty, bidy little pistol

1059
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: holes everywhere else, bars I feel better about Michael Parsons

1060
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: now than I think I ever have throughout this process,

1061
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: just because of the way that he would fit he

1062
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: is an off ball linebacker. He's not necessarily going to

1063
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: be an immediate impact, but he could be, and I

1064
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: would rather And I was thinking about this the other day,

1065
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: kind of after we got into our argument last week.

1066
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: But would I be okay seeing Michael Parsons on another

1067
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: NFC East team? Probably not. I'd be a little upset.

1068
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: I'd be a little scared, at least at that point

1069
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: saying I want him. I'm still saying if he's probably

1070
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: number three on my list, still behind Curtain, because I

1071
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: would rather have Treyvon Digs and Curtain and have you're

1072
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: talking about solidifying the position. They may not be the

1073
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: best duo in the league, but then they're at least

1074
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: formidable at the cornerback spot, because that's something that the

1075
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys haven't had since the early two thousands. Those two

1076
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: a bit really good to go. You're afraid? Are you

1077
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question? Are you afraid to

1078
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: throw the ball at Diggs? Be honest, no disrespect to him.

1079
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: He's learning. Are you afraid to kie? Maybe? But Diggs

1080
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: is that's the thing is he's gonna be guy who's

1081
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: our best corner right now? Who's our best corner? As yah,

1082
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: tell me I'm not. I'm not. I'm not saying to

1083
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: not address the position. Don't get my comment misconstrued. But

1084
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying you have an ability. I'm saying you have ability,

1085
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: which I think we're starting to feel better about our

1086
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: D line. And we know we're not done yet. We

1087
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: know we're not done, but we have brought in some

1088
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: veterans that are gonna have a mediate impact on his

1089
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: defensive line. Yes, I think we all feel good about that.

1090
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: The defensive and positions got upgraded, the interior D linement

1091
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: already got upgraded, and waitful guys coming back off injury.

1092
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: I think our D line is gonna be very competitive. Okay,

1093
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity now only to have those guys

1094
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: up front, but to put three large human beings. These

1095
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: aren't three young these aren't three small linebackers. Like the

1096
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: smallest of those guys is freaking Jalen Smith. And what's

1097
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: Jalen six three two forty two six three to me?

1098
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: So you got you got six three six four six

1099
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: four two two five two forty five and they can

1100
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: running hit and you have a defensive line that's not

1101
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: going to allow the officive linement to work up to

1102
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: the second level like we saw last year. That will

1103
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: be fixed with dan Quinn. Trust that that scares you

1104
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: as an offense, as an office quarter I have to

1105
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: worry about that every play, not just when I throw

1106
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: the ball. I tend to agree with you. You talk

1107
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: chicken or egg. You know what's more important the front

1108
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: or the or the back end? Yeah, I think pressure

1109
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: upfront is is most important. But what what the eg?

1110
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right, he destroyed That's right. I forgot

1111
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: about that. That was good stuff. Um So going back

1112
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: to that, like I think it's I think front seven

1113
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: is probably the most important thing. But cornerbacks a marquee position.

1114
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean it's I mean, you talk about the marquee

1115
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: positions in the NFL. It's quarterback, it's left tackle, it's

1116
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: edge rusher, and it's corner. So if you think you

1117
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: can find like a great cornerback prospect the top ten pick,

1118
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm not shying away from that. I mean, I'm with

1119
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: Isaiah on solidifying your front seven. But that area of

1120
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: the team needs help. It needs it needs depth, it

1121
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: needs another guy that can go get the ball. Games.

1122
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: You're trying to win games, You're actually trying to get

1123
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: guys who are good at their position. You're trying to

1124
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: win games or what with what the issues that you

1125
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: currently have, and I think solidifying your front seven gets

1126
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: you to w's a lot quicker than than some good cornerbacks.

1127
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: You got issues everywhere. I mean, I think, yeah, we

1128
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: have issues everywhere, but a front seven gets to the quarterback, right, yep.

1129
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: A front seven stops the run, right, which we couldn't

1130
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: do last year. Which we couldn't do last year. I

1131
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: think you're putting in you spend your top ten pick

1132
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: on a cornerback, I could still run the ball all

1133
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: over you like I did last year. You're putting a

1134
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: lot of faith into guys like Brent Urban and of

1135
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: course Robert Quinn excuse me, Dan Quinn, which is fine,

1136
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, like you're putting a lot of faith into

1137
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, once again, I brought this point

1138
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: up already, But last year I had felt better at

1139
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: this point about the signings last year with Gerald mccoin

1140
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: don Terry Poe before before this year, and right now

1141
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: I feel better. I felt better last year at this

1142
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: point than I do right now because of these signings.

1143
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: I like what Brent Urban brings is a run stuffer.

1144
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: I like what Carlos Watkins can bring as a debt

1145
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: piece with Tristan Hill and Neville Gallimore who hopefully big,

1146
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: hopefully take the next step. But if you're going to

1147
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: draft a linebacker, especially an off ball linebacker, he better

1148
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: come in and be a dog. And he's an athletic freak,

1149
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is. But I don't know if he's ready

1150
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: to be a dog right now. I don't know if

1151
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: he's ready. And I've said that previously. I don't think

1152
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: he's that great at his position. I really don't. I

1153
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: think he's a great athlete. You're not. I think he's

1154
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: a great athlete. Turn off the film, turn it on.

1155
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: But all you're asking him to do is come into

1156
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: be athletic. That's all you're asking him to do. See that.

1157
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: We tried to do that already. What happened with fifty four.

1158
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: He can't turn corners. He's supposed to be athletic. He's

1159
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: raved about their athletics. Why you get somebody who's no, no, no, no,

1160
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: no no. He has ability to run and say nothing

1161
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: kind about his changing direction doesn't work. A change of

1162
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: direction is not running. Changing directions is all about agility,

1163
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: agility and speed or two different things. Right. So he

1164
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: has the speed, he does not have agility, right, so

1165
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: he could run and hit you when he's running side

1166
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: to side. Now you give him some help where he

1167
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do that as much. Now, guess what.

1168
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: You just took his responsibilities like this and you hone

1169
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: them in. Right, So it's about plugging and playing and

1170
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: allowing guys to not have to do as much and

1171
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: not bear the weight because obviously some of these guys

1172
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: can't bear the weight. So you start bringing it in.

1173
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: Guy who are specialists at what they do. Big boys

1174
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: run stopper defensive ends. All you do is rush the

1175
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: ball and guess is rush the quarterback and guess what? Oh,

1176
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: and then you bring it dan Quinn, who guess what

1177
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put you? And I have a history of

1178
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: putting guys in position to take, accelerate and show off

1179
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: what their skill sets are and not ask them to

1180
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: do anything outside of their abilities. So I do want

1181
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: to go back to the question I posed to you earlier, though,

1182
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: just really quickly, because you're you're talking about treyvon Diggs

1183
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: and not being scared at Treyvon Diggs. Who is our

1184
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: best corner right now on the team for the Cowboys,

1185
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: Who is the number one corner? The answer has to

1186
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: be Diggs. Okay, it has to the answer is Digs.

1187
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 1: You're not gonna say Anthony Brown. Jordan Lewis was maybe

1188
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: the best down the stretch, but I think I think

1189
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: that the ceiling, it's Trayvon Dix. Well Patrick's r. Tan's

1190
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: better than Trayvon Dix right now. I mean he would

1191
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: step in and be your top corner at this very

1192
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: moment if you pick him at ten, Is Michael Parson's

1193
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: going to be your best linebacker? I don't know. Which

1194
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: is a big question mark. I don't know if that's

1195
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: necessarily case will start if he's playing. If if you're

1196
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: gonna pick a guy at ten, that guy's gonna start,

1197
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter what position it is, You're

1198
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna start him. If he can make an impact immediately,

1199
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: he couldn't. I think Sir Tam would make just as

1200
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: much of an impact, if not more of an impact.

1201
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: That's that's why I say best player available and defense,

1202
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: I say defense, heck not not pits. I don't want

1203
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: to hear about Pitts. I want to say, the best

1204
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: defensive player of elable if they draft. That's why I

1205
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: don't want to dismiss corner. I rs like if if

1206
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: they draft but any any position on defense and say

1207
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: that's the top guy on our board, we'd love this

1208
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: guy can step in and help us. I don't care

1209
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: if it's a defensive lineman, linebacker, corner, I'm fine with it.

1210
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: Let me ask I'm fine. Let me ask this. When

1211
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: you look at them around the league, on let's say

1212
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, do you think that Jalen Ramsey's

1213
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: job is easy because he's just a stud cornerback or

1214
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: because he has Aaron Donald on the inside because he

1215
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: just story because he's a stud cornerback. He was incredible.

1216
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there is such a thing he was in

1217
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. He hasn't all of a sudden been good

1218
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: because he's in LA. How much easier, you know, much,

1219
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: how much easier your job is if you're Jalen Ramsey

1220
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: if you have Aaron Donald in the interior. Sure, I'm

1221
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: saying that, like I understand. Yeah, So that's that's with anything. Heck,

1222
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: but I mean if any time you have talented people

1223
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: around you. Your job's going to be better. If Rob

1224
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: was terrible at his job, I wouldn't be as good

1225
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: as a host. But good thing Rob's freak that we're good.

1226
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: How do you think? How do you think Patrick Satan's

1227
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: job is at Alabama plan with But he was still

1228
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: better than he was still better than the guy to

1229
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: be drafted in the second round last year? Who who

1230
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: is automatically your best corner? He was already better than

1231
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: that guy, and he's gonna come in and be better

1232
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: than Kyle. All I'm gonna say is I know we

1233
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: gotta get off the air. You have a you have

1234
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: You have an opportunity to to make your defense feared

1235
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: at at at some point in the game. Right I

1236
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: step up to a line of scribation, I can fear you,

1237
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: or I can laugh at you and run the ball

1238
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: up your freaking throat like I did last year. Your choice,

1239
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: your choice. I'm not fearing too young corners. Name the

1240
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: last time the league has feared no corner. You're right there.

1241
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: That that that's I don't know how good you feel

1242
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: about in twenty twenty one, that that depth. Now you're

1243
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: looking more at twenty twenty two twenty three, where it's like, hey,

1244
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: Dix takes a step forward, whoever the corner is they

1245
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: draft if they draft one twenty twenty one, not so much.

1246
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: Isaiah is looking at Washington. I think I think you're

1247
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: looking at their defense being like, let's get some of

1248
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: let's get some of that. I'm looking. I'm looking at

1249
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: just the history of ball. I mean even my time

1250
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: with the Giants when we won the Super Bowl. Our

1251
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: corners were good, but they weren't feared. You know who

1252
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: was feared the front seven. The senl is feared, right

1253
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: also Osi and autumn guys. Those guys are feared. That's

1254
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: that's where you're scared of. Oh crap, we gotta do

1255
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: with these guys every play. Hey Isaiah, you got foundation

1256
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: problems by pool. That's what I think it's. I think

1257
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: what makes this debate so fun is because at the

1258
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: end of the day, no matter who the pick is

1259
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: at ten, you're going to be a better football team

1260
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty one. I think that's what makes

1261
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: this fun because we can argue about this all we want,

1262
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: but whether the pick is certain or whether it's Parsons,

1263
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: whether it's later, we're gonna be excited Pits. I'll even

1264
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: throw him in there. We're gonna be excited about that

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Speaker 1: pick because he's a top ten player, it's one of

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Speaker 1: the top players in the draft class, and he's automatically

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Speaker 1: gonna come in and play and start potentially for this team.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's why this is such a fun

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Speaker 1: debate and it's it gets you riled up. Sure, But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, if if Parsons is a pick,

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Speaker 1: I'm rolling with it. Let's go. I want him to

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Speaker 1: succeed because I want him to be a better player

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Speaker 1: than what I think he is now. If certains to

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Speaker 1: pick Isaiah Heck, but they're gonna roll if if Pits

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Speaker 1: is the pick, then we'll all give Dave Hellman a

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Speaker 1: high five in the hallway and we'll keep rolling with it.

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Speaker 1: So there's plenty of things that we can look forward

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Speaker 1: to whenever the draft comes around on April twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: But that's gonna do it here for us on talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: you got an extra five minutes out of us today.

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Speaker 1: But for Rob Phillips, for Heck Maharris and Isaiah's stand

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Speaker 1: back in Aaron Gonzalez back he studio, I'm Kyle yellman

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Speaker 1: saying so long, we'll see a week on Talking Cowboys.

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