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Speaker 1: so much success at the college level and they're working

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Speaker 1: right here in Los Angeles, so wouldn't be the hard

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Speaker 1: to talk to him. Similar a couple of years ago,

431
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Speaker 1: whatever Meyer was working that Fox and they could talk

432
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Speaker 1: to him too. So you even call a game on

433
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Speaker 1: the call, Sam Floor to any nineteen when USC beat Utah,

434
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Speaker 1: so that that was a weird on himself. Do you

435
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Speaker 1: think and guys talk about this in the studio here

436
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Speaker 1: often during the college shows on the weekends, do you

437
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: think Carol full in USC as a whole care as

438
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Speaker 1: much as the public does about USC football. I think, um,

439
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: they had some bigger fish to fry for a while.

440
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Speaker 1: I think they's around, She's getting she's feeling how important

441
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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, every time she would tweet something,

442
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Speaker 1: all the comments would be fire Clay Helton, Finlay Hilton.

443
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Speaker 1: Then I think maybe in the beginning they didn't quite

444
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Speaker 1: get it. And the fact that she got rid of

445
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Speaker 1: Lin Swan pretty quietly but quickly, I thought that was

446
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: a good move because I think she kind of realized, like,

447
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: he is not he doesn't know what he's doing, he

448
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: is not the man for the job. They bringing someone

449
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 1: that has experience. I think that's good and I think

450
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Speaker 1: Mike Bond wants to win. When you hear him, he's

451
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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of stuff that important to me.

452
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Speaker 1: He wants to the student athlete to be successful, lot

453
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Speaker 1: of stuff. But I think he's someone that's very competitive

454
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Speaker 1: and he wants them to win at that level. So

455
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Speaker 1: I think they're they're starting to fix the Board of

456
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Speaker 1: the trustees issues, the president, you know, kind of getting

457
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Speaker 1: her on board. It feels like they're people are more

458
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Speaker 1: on board now than probably they were a couple of

459
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Speaker 1: years ago, and that just kind of shows there were

460
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Speaker 1: just so many There were decades of bad leadership at

461
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Speaker 1: USC for at all levels. So I think they're trying

462
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Speaker 1: to get through that now and kind of realize, you know,

463
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Speaker 1: why why having a great football team would be helpful

464
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Speaker 1: to the you know, to the school, to the university

465
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Speaker 1: as a whole, and to the city of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: All Right, obviously, I know you you covering USC in

467
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Speaker 1: Pact twelve extensively, but looking across the country, are you

468
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Speaker 1: as enamored with Spencer Rattler as many people are. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm a Heisman voter and stuff, and it's

470
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Speaker 1: someone you kind of have to to look at and

471
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Speaker 1: you start wondering, like, how good are these guys because

472
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Speaker 1: of the coach and the system and all that. But

473
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Speaker 1: it's someone that I think he could be really fun,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, fun to watch the whole. It's weird though,

475
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Speaker 1: just college football in general, Like you thought Alabama is

476
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Speaker 1: the best and they look falible, Like it just looks

477
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Speaker 1: like this is kind of wide open this year that

478
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Speaker 1: we I don't know who's going to be good and

479
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: which team is gonna be good from week to week. So, um,

480
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Speaker 1: it's just an interesting time for college football. We it

481
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Speaker 1: became so regionalized and we only had like those four

482
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Speaker 1: teams that were good or five teams that were good.

483
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Speaker 1: This might be here where some other teams breaks it.

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Speaker 1: Where are saw Oregon, you know, getting to win Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how Oklahoma and Rattler and on those guys

486
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Speaker 1: continue to do. But um, yeah, to me, this is

487
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Speaker 1: could be a more interesting year in college football. It

488
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: seems like there's a lot of like hangover from last year,

489
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Speaker 1: that weird season that we have in Yeah, I see.

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Speaker 1: I've had this conversation with Ben about the quarterbacks, especially

491
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young DJ and and even in years past J T.

492
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: Daniels that these guys all played at either modern Day

493
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Speaker 1: or Saint John Bosco, and they played with Division one

494
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, so they were never touched. And I thought, like,

495
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Speaker 1: just personal opinions, as soon as they come under any

496
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Speaker 1: kind of fire, that's when they'll be in some trouble.

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Speaker 1: And I felt like that's three and why JT transferred

498
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Speaker 1: out of USC just zero protection and had everything coming

499
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Speaker 1: on the A and B gaps and see, I think

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Speaker 1: you see that now with DJ. Obviously you lose Maria Rodgers,

501
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Speaker 1: you lose Travis e t n. It was all those

502
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Speaker 1: bullets and now you're recalibrating and he's under fire. He's

503
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Speaker 1: not performing like he he should or could because he

504
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Speaker 1: doesn't have those kind of elements around him. And so

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's what the case of Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: They gotta scare from Florida, but they still manage that game.

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Speaker 1: They jumped out to an early lead and then lead

508
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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. So I just feel like

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Speaker 1: like you're going back to your point, it's more about

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Speaker 1: just kind of the game correcting itself from you know,

511
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Speaker 1: last season two this year, and I think defenses are

512
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Speaker 1: catching up a little again because you know, there was

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Speaker 1: a reason why Alabama switched to these kind of spread offenses,

514
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: athletic quarterbacks that you're moving the ball around, and um,

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Speaker 1: I think the defenses are starting to play a little

516
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Speaker 1: bit better now where you can still get the best

517
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Speaker 1: of them, right, like if everything's clicking on offense, but

518
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Speaker 1: you can get games where you shut that. You saw

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Speaker 1: that Georgia Clemson game where because they're just shutting offensives

520
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Speaker 1: down and it looks a little like more old school

521
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: college football than we've seen. So that's another reason why

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Speaker 1: where it's not just like you know, the Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: year like in say stuff even in Alabama last year.

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Speaker 1: Are we going to see that this year? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it as much. But when when

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Speaker 1: you get an offensive experience, offensive line and all these

527
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Speaker 1: NFL receivers and athletic quarterback is just distributing the ball

528
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Speaker 1: and you can take off and run and great running backs, like, yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: you can have offenses are unstoppable. But this year, not

530
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Speaker 1: seeing that as much, it seems like the defenses might

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Speaker 1: have cut up a little bit, so right. I saw

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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago there was a big story

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Speaker 1: about Alabama and in the name image likeness, the recruit

534
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Speaker 1: from Ohio State out of Texas that got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of money not to play his last year at high

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Speaker 1: school football in Texas. I haven't heard a lot from

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve. Maybe I missed it. How how has

538
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Speaker 1: that played out? And is you cover USC more than anybody?

539
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Speaker 1: The out of boosters, the whales they have in their alumni.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't this be the great you know, the great equalizer,

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Speaker 1: not the great equalizer, but the great advantage the ace

542
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Speaker 1: card for SC with the amount of money you can

543
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Speaker 1: now pay players over the table. And have they been

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Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that? Yeah, we haven't heard

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Speaker 1: a ton of announcements, to be fair then, And I think,

546
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Speaker 1: you know, Keen Slovis did sign with Clutch Sports. Who's

547
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, Lebron James, you know there there with them.

548
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: I think kav Am Thibodeaux did some stuff up at Oregon.

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Speaker 1: I think still Knight is going to be involved and

550
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Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. So I think there were

551
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Speaker 1: some big name guys that have done some things, but

552
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Speaker 1: it seems like they're still kind of feeling this out.

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Speaker 1: I think there's going to be advantages if you're in

554
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Speaker 1: a major media market, You're in Los Angeles, but you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're the starting center for USC, you probably would

556
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Speaker 1: have a better chance if you were the starting center

557
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Speaker 1: in Nebraska, where everyone's gonna know who you are. Where Like,

558
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Speaker 1: if you're Keen Slovis or you're the quarterback or wherever

559
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Speaker 1: at USC, you're probably gonna have a higher ceiling than

560
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Speaker 1: if you were the quarterback at an in a college town,

561
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Speaker 1: you know. So I think they're still trying to feel

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Speaker 1: this out, uh and see where guys go. They've they've

563
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: tried to put some infrastructure in place to give these

564
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Speaker 1: guys some assistance. But yeah, it's it's still like we

565
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Speaker 1: haven't seen it like be big on the recruiting trail

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Speaker 1: all that much on the West coast. But this signing period,

567
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Speaker 1: you come December, I think it's going to be important

568
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: and you might see some you know, Michigan State has

569
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Speaker 1: some huge class because all these recruits were going to

570
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Speaker 1: get benefits or something. That's when I think you might

571
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Speaker 1: see a little bit more of this stuff kind of

572
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: peeking out where and directly impacting these recruited classes later

573
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Speaker 1: in the cycle. So in the big picture, for the

574
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Speaker 1: packs of Larry Scott had been hanging around as an

575
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Speaker 1: albatross over the conference for many, many years, and you know,

576
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: Larry talking good game, tennis guy and all that. I

577
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to him a few times

578
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Speaker 1: over the years. He's finally gone. Now, so what is

579
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Speaker 1: the initial report card for the new guy here? The

580
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: who's out of Vegas? And and is this as good

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Speaker 1: he's he's also talked a good game. Uh? Is Canny

582
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Speaker 1: back it up? That's the question. Yeah. I like George

583
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: LAYOFCOFF so far. And we got to you know, he

584
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: came out and said, hey, we're going to do a

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Speaker 1: listening tour, and USC happened to be his first stop.

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Speaker 1: We came after one of their offseason workouts and got

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Speaker 1: to have some one on one time with him, and

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00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: it was great stuff that Larry Scott would never do

589
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Speaker 1: like he would you know, he wouldn't even acknowledge your

590
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: existence from his Ivory tower, but this was he was

591
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: down there talking to all the beat writers, talking everyone

592
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: that would cover the team. And he's done that. I

593
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: think he's almost through all of the Pac twelves campuses

594
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: and it's started. The first good you know, first weeks

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Speaker 1: there were some some good news, you know, Oregon winning

596
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Speaker 1: u C l A winning against l s U last

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00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: week was pretty foot a disaster for the Pact Wells,

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Speaker 1: So maybe that's coming back down to earth. But I

599
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, just working with the Alliance and

600
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: the big ten in the a C has been helpful.

601
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: I like, I think he's going to make some good

602
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: moves that the big ones where you want to have,

603
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Speaker 1: like the Pact of network on direct TV and things

604
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: like that. I don't think he's gonna be able to

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00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: do until those TV deals are up. But the fact

606
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: we have to watch like kind of what he does

607
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: building up to four season because that's gonna be the

608
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Speaker 1: big one. But I'd like what he's done so far,

609
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Speaker 1: so I would give him, you know, a minus or

610
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Speaker 1: something going forward. He seems like he's got things going

611
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Speaker 1: in the right direction. And like you said, he's talked

612
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: a good game. We'll see whether the results will come

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Speaker 1: probably you know, in a couple of years when we

614
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: see that new TV deal. Yeah, and with with the

615
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: SEC adding Texas in Oklahoma, planning to add those tools schools.

616
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: I did see the PAC twelve said they're not planning

617
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: to expand, but people change their opinion ten years from now, Ryan,

618
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Speaker 1: you have a crystal ball. How many teams are in

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Speaker 1: what is now known as the Pack twelve. How many

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00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: teams are in there? That's a really good question. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just feel like the whole structure is going to

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Speaker 1: be different. Um, so I'm gonna go sixteen that maybe

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Speaker 1: we'd end up in like four or sixteen like super conferences, um,

624
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Speaker 1: something like that. It doesn't seem like they're going to

625
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: expand anytime soon. And if they can get that scheduling

626
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: agreement everything done with the big tennan ECC, that will

627
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: be helpful. I think they're gonna back off the eight

628
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: conference games. I think that and get rid of divisions,

629
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Speaker 1: which would be kind of interesting. But maybe ten years

630
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Speaker 1: from now we're looking at like sixteen teams and four

631
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Speaker 1: different conferences and they finally have some kind of round

632
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Speaker 1: robin playoffs thing going on. It's a it's a lot

633
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Speaker 1: of fun. So I think that's where we'll be in

634
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Speaker 1: a decade. Ryan. Where are you at with the website?

635
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, first date from inception to where you're at now,

636
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Speaker 1: because I know you personally a little bit and uh

637
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Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, But an engineering background

638
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like poof. You're on the

639
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: beat working for for the Trojans and covering things, so

640
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: you take yourself away from from one world into it

641
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Speaker 1: and completely different sector. What's up with that? Yeah? I

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Speaker 1: went to USC of a master's and electrical engineering and

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Speaker 1: I started at USC football dot com in NINETI just

644
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: as like a hobby and then it just took off

645
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: and uh then a two thousand one, I joined Rivals

646
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: at the time and I quit my job with that

647
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: for it, but doing a full time So yeah, so

648
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: fell into journalism. It's been fun. I mean a crazy

649
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: kind of run going on here. The peat Carrel years

650
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: were great obviously, and but it's always interesting. I mean

651
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: it's been it's been fun. Um, but man, just covering

652
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: the U SU beat, there's always some weird story going

653
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: on and you know something that you have to drop everything,

654
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: and like, you know, a week ago when clayhot And

655
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: got fired, it was one of those things. It's like whoa, uh,

656
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: two games in the season they fired their coach. So

657
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: it's it's been. It's commit kind of roller coaster like that,

658
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Speaker 1: but it's been fun. That's I was gonna say. Because

659
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Speaker 1: your wife is a huge Tennessee fan, right, So you've

660
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: got the whole SEC blood in the family and you're

661
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: you're a packed twelve guy. Yeah, there's a lot. I

662
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: got to learn a lot about the SEC from what's

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Speaker 1: going on there, But yeah, I keep my ties on

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Speaker 1: here on the West Coast. Have you been impressed with

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Speaker 1: anyone so far nashally outside of what you know Alabama's

666
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: been doing so far? I mean, the Florida loss was

667
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: pretty darn good. You know, b Y look great, Like

668
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I expected them to have a huge drop off. They're

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Speaker 1: one of the few teams that lost a lot of

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Speaker 1: their starters from last year. Everyone's bringing everyone back, you know,

671
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Speaker 1: But to see what b I U was, you know,

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00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: has been able to do. Um. Yeah, there's there's a

673
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Speaker 1: lot out there. We're just kind of see. It just

674
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: seems like it's more wide open now. So where are

675
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Speaker 1: these teams gonna go? I mean, you've got the coastal

676
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Carolinas of the world. How long are they're gonna be undefeated? Cincinnati,

677
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, they've been good, and the Penn State too.

678
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: I think you know the fact that they've got um,

679
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Speaker 1: you know, the big win against Auburn this last weekend,

680
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: and they have a couple of big wins already. So

681
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Speaker 1: James Franklin, another potential USC candidate, He's got the he's

682
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: got the Minitney alliance rolling right now. Do you think

683
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: Texas is gonna be successful under Sarcasian it's deer question.

684
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean that it was a disappointing loss to Arkansas

685
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: for sure. Um, you got to give him some time there,

686
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: but um, yeah, you know, I think his offense is

687
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Speaker 1: going to work. It's probably gonna take him a little

688
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Speaker 1: bit to kind of fix whatever Tom Herman you kind

689
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Speaker 1: of did in there, though. You know, I think it's

690
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Speaker 1: gonna take a little time, but I think I'll do

691
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Speaker 1: a good job there. And Ryan, last one for me here. Ryan,

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Speaker 1: So you're a Heisman Trophy voter. Now that's a great thing.

693
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Speaker 1: And I vote for the John R. Wooden Warden basket.

694
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Speaker 1: That's my thing. But you're the Heisman guy, So what

695
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: is the method to the madness? Like, you cover USC,

696
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: but you've got to cover the whole country as a

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Speaker 1: Heisman voter. So how do you approach this every weekend? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I try not to do too much early in the season.

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00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: I want to get like kind of bias. So these

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Speaker 1: guys are the favorites or things like that, and it's

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Speaker 1: a pretty much a regional The way you vote is

702
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: very regional. Um, I like to include someone on the

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Speaker 1: West Coast at least I'm running about. You can pick

704
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: up the three if at all possible, you know. Um

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Speaker 1: there's years when you can, as years when you can't.

706
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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not big in the defensive players

707
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: unless they're scored about the touchdowns or things like that,

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Speaker 1: so I kind of keep it more to the offensive side.

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Speaker 1: I try to keep an open mind to see who's

710
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Speaker 1: really impressed me and try to watch some of the

711
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Speaker 1: bigger games. But it's it's interesting and it's a fun

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a ore like nine hundred I think

713
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Speaker 1: for the Hysman. It's not too exclusive a club, but

714
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Speaker 1: it's been fun over the years to be able to

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Speaker 1: be involved in that awesome. All right, Ryan, thank you

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Speaker 1: and anything to promote here, right, anything you want to

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Speaker 1: other than the website. You're on social media and all

718
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: that stuff. How can people keep tracking? Yeah, you can

719
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Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter at inside try I do that

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Speaker 1: a lot during the season, so we twitter lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. Our lives kind of focus around Twitter sometime

722
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: that's chilly out, but we're we're like on it all

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Speaker 1: the time. It's crazy awesome. Thank you Ryan, all right,

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Speaker 1: take our thanks. Cool and weird, awesome down