1 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zam. 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: I'm Pinami Stevens, Mark Dufner, and John Oser are in 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: with me today as we bring you your first show 4 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: of the off season. We've taken about a month off 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: to kind of look back at things super Bowl, the 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: rest of the playoffs have gone on, so now it's 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: time to get back into what the Jaguars are doing 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: this offseason and what some of the big news that 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: happened over the past couple of weeks. So let's go 10 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: over our big things for you. Our first big thing, 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: Number one is going to be back in action. There 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 2: was a huge coaching shift throughout the NFL. About a 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: third of the head coaching positions were open this year, 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: and there was some questions about whether the coordinators here 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: in Jacksonville we're gonna be coming back now John. 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: Fortunately, looks like Grant. 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Agency and Anthony Campanila are gonna be here again for 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: their second season. John, what's a big part of why 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: it's so important to kind of keep this daft year 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: as long as you. 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: Can well continuity? 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: And I'm anxious to hear uh Duff's thoughts on it 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: because he's been in it and knows how important that is, 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 4: but look, uh, they got things going last year. Grant 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: Yudinsky is very important for his ability to uh get 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: with Trevor Lawrence during the week and show him what's 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: gonna be happened on the field. He's going to be 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: a head coach in this league someday, probably in twenty 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: twenty seven. Uh, he's too good a coach not to be. 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 4: And look Campanelli, Uh, uh duff the players. 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: I've been around a lot of coaches. 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I've been around a coach that players 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 4: love playing for and respond to and buy into quite 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: as much as camp I'm sure they bought into you. 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: But but you know there is something to that player's 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: belief in these an and the players believe in both 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: of these guys. 38 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 5: No no question about it. And I mean that's huge 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 5: for this coaching staff to stay together. Consistent consistency, which 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 5: you talked about, is the best and both of these 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 5: guys have I think, great futures right now. The energy 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: of the enthusiasm that they demonstrate the connection with the 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 5: players off the chart. And you're right, I see the 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 5: following that the players have with Campaneli, especially on defense. 45 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 5: I mean, defense is a lot of emotion and enthusiasm 46 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: and belief like that, and he certainly leads that with 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 5: this group in a big. 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 6: Big way. 49 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Bye and Ky, We've talked about it before. Everything 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: coaches do x's and o's wise is great to me. 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 4: If players believe in them, that's ninety percent of it. 52 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 4: And they believe in both of these guys. 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we saw what they did in year one, 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 2: so I'm sure we're expecting even better in year two. 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: Our big thing number two is going to be free agency. 56 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about some of the. 57 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: Big names on this team, Travis Utn, of course, Devin Lloyd. 58 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: Both those guys are going to be free agents. But 59 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: there's also needs to be a focus on this roster 60 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: building because as mentioned, this is going to be only 61 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: the second season with this current regime. 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: They're still trying to build their perfect team. 63 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 3: Duff. 64 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: When you look at the roster, where's a position group 65 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: that they need to focus on during free agents? 66 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: Well, I think you've always got to look at how 67 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 5: you can affect and protect the quarterback. So first and foremost, 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 5: I think affecting the quarterback, if we could gain another 69 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: edge rusher and also some interior defensive line help to me. 70 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 6: You know, we certainly demonstrate the ability to stop to run, 71 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 6: but to. 72 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 5: Affect the quarterback internally and externally, meaning on the edge 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 5: and inside, would be big, big things. And then anything 74 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: you can do to continue to protect Trevor Lawrence in 75 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 5: terms of the offensive line. And then I think you 76 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 5: can never not have a cornerback or a guy on 77 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 5: the edge in the secondary to help. So those areas 78 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 5: would be ones I think we should focus on. 79 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: It's gonna be interested doe what happens. 80 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: I'm not sure unfortunately that Lloyd needs to handle me back. 81 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: So if you lose Lloyd, then all of a sudden, 82 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: you know, you're wondering, do you need to bring in 83 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: a lower priced linebacker. You can find interior linebacker for 84 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: less than Devin. Lloyd will make a veteran guy who can, 85 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: you know, be savvy, who can help a Foyer get 86 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 4: the minute out of place. 87 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: But I'm with Duff. 88 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: I think interior defensive line be it by trade, be 89 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 4: it by free agency. You know, Devon Hamilton big time 90 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: year last year was probably as good as any. Nose 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: cycle penetration would really help Trayvon and Josh Haines down 92 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: on the outside. I think interior defensive line is the 93 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: area to watch on this team. 94 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to our final big thing today, 95 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: which is gonna be plans for number twelve. Now, this 96 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily news to us here and people that follow 97 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: the Jaguars frequently, but the national news reporting this week 98 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: after some reports out of NFL Network that Travis Hunter 99 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: is going to be mainly a cornerback and he'll be 100 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: featured at times as a wide receiver on offense. 101 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: John, I don't think that's necessarily. 102 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: New information to us, but it also feels like it's 103 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: a fluid situation, and from the feeling that we get, 104 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: at least I've gotten from the team is it's gonna kind. 105 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: Of change week to week. 106 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, this sounded like there may have been some interpretation 107 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 4: involved with what somebody heard. I think it's very fluid, 108 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: and I think they're definitely gonna see he's going to 109 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: be a starter at corner. Whatever that means in terms 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: of snaps every play, I don't know, but he's a 111 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 4: front line corner and he is a full time guy 112 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: on that side of the ball. But I think it 113 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: was it was it was going to start looking like 114 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: that in the second half of last season. 115 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: Anyway. 116 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: I think there might be games where he plays a 117 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: huge role offensively. There might be games where he plays 118 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: more of a uh, you know, Swiss Army Knight offensively. 119 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: But I think he's going to be an impact player 120 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 4: on both sides. Full time snaps on defense, half the 121 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 4: snaps on offense. I don't know what to look like, 122 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 4: but he's gonna matter on offense. 123 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you've got an explosive player there, an 124 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 5: elite athlete that can be a factor and a game 125 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 5: wrecker on both sides of the ball. I like the 126 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 5: focus of maybe majoring him at corner and letting him 127 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 5: go there. But I also think that, boy, you've got 128 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 5: an explosive touchdown waiting to happen on offense. So thank 129 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: god we've gone him and thank god we've got him back. 130 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 5: I mean, he's like an extra draft pick this year 131 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 5: based on his participation from last season. So amen to 132 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 5: all this. 133 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think too, Kai with Travis. 134 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 4: When he left last year meeting, when he got hurt, 135 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 4: the offense was still sort of figuring it out. 136 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: You didn't know exactly what it was. 137 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: When he comes back this year, you sort of know 138 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 4: what Jakobe Myers is, what Brian Thomas Junior is, what 139 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 4: these guys are, and how it all works. 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: I think it will be easier for them to find 141 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: the role each week for him to play. 142 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: Because it felt like they were still sort of figuring 143 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 4: it out in the first seven weeks. 144 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: So last year absolutely, and it'll be another year he's 145 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: had with the playbook as well, which we know if 146 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: he's learned two positions can be kind of difficult to 147 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: do as a rookie, so we'll keep an eye on that. 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Sam's here on jag Zam. 149 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we'll talk a little bit 150 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: about the news we've seen across the NFL the past 151 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. Welcome back in the jag Dam here 152 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: this morning, as we kind of catch you up on 153 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: some of the things that had been going on. We 154 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: haven't been around for about a month, so we're gonna 155 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: go over some of the stuff it's gone down in 156 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: the NFL the past couple of weeks. So obviously before 157 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, they had NFL honors and two of 158 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: the Jaguars were amongst the voting, Trevor Lawrence amongst the 159 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: MVP votes. I think he finished fifth, and then Liam 160 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: Cohen up woar Coach of the Year he finished second, 161 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: and Mike Rable obviously who's in the Super Bowl, and 162 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: Matt Stafford won MVP this year. Uh, John, I know 163 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: we all think Trevor's ore MVP, but it felt like 164 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: a little It's it's tough when he was playing so 165 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: well at the end of the season, but I feel 166 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: like some people get stuff in their minds earlier in 167 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: the year, so that can be kind of hard to 168 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: swigh their mind. 169 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 170 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: Uh, to get into the top five was a major 171 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: accomplishment for Trevor because of where it started. I mean 172 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 4: when the season started, he was coming off an injury. 173 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: He had had two years that I think he would 174 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 4: tell you weren't great. I thought that by the end 175 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: of the year he probably deserved to be number two 176 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: in the MVP voting. I don't think he was gonna 177 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: beat Stafford. Stafford was unbelievable and very consistent all year. 178 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 179 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: But again, to be in the top five was terrific 180 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: for him. I thought the Coach of the Year made sense. 181 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: I think Liam lost by what like four or five votes. 182 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: I mean it was very close. 183 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: Vrabel. 184 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: They finished fourteen and three to the Jaguars thirteen and four. 185 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 4: Liam's in my mind, was the best coach in the 186 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: NFL this year, or or deserved it, But I I 187 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 4: didn't have a problem with him being a narrow second 188 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: of Rabel. 189 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 3: Those two guys I thought should have been the top two. 190 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 5: Two worthy candidatesh for a coach of the year, But uh, 191 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: Liam Cohen in his first year, doing what he did 192 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 5: the way he uh, I thought, revolutionized this team in 193 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 5: a lot of ways, attitudely and every other way. I mean, 194 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 5: Jeesel unbelievable job, and uh, across the board the coaching 195 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 5: staff included uh, both worthy candidates. But I'm I'm for 196 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 5: coach Cohen just like you said, and what a terrific 197 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 5: job he did coaching. And then Trevor like you like 198 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 5: we also, I saw the evolution of this players this 199 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: season went on, and there wasn't a better quarterback in 200 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 5: the league at the end of the season. I'm with you, 201 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: Kai and that you know, sometimes it's gotta be start 202 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 5: to finish, But boy, this second half of the season 203 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 5: certainly goes down as one of the best rounds. So 204 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 5: well done by him. 205 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: If it had been the last eight games. 206 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: I think they both win the award, which to me, 207 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: the awards are secondary to the fact that I think 208 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 4: Liam is a coach for fifteen to twenty years in 209 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 4: this league. 210 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's an innovator. I think he's 211 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: way ahead. 212 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,239 Speaker 4: He's one of the guys setting the pace and determining 213 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: how offense is gonna be played. I think Trevor's gonna 214 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: ride that wave. I think they are set at those 215 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: two positions. 216 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: Liam mature beyond his years right now. And then I 217 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 5: think you've also got to mention the what I call 218 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 5: the Three Wise Men, the great job that James Gladstone, 219 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 5: Tony Bisselli and the head coach did bringing gold Franken 220 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: Sampson Murray right here to Jacksonville. I mean, look the results. 221 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm an external coach on another team 222 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 5: or a GM or something, I want to know what's 223 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: going on in Jacksonville. 224 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 6: Because it's going very, very well. 225 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have trouble looking at the selling and thinking 226 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: of him as one of. 227 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 6: The Well, let's not. I still think it's got some 228 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 6: some similarity, for sure. 229 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: That's a good analogy. 230 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: I think it's cool league wise, at least when I 231 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: look at, you know, Coach of the Year specifically, a 232 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: bunch of those guys are their first year with their 233 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: new team, like McDonald is the second year. But what 234 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: that shows throughout the league now, and I think what 235 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: we've noticed, at least with all the coaching openings, which 236 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: we'll talk about in a second, UH. 237 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: Franchises want success right away. 238 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: Like you're looking at this, You're looking at liamcong when 239 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: he Disness first year, Rabel in his first year, even 240 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson in Chicago his first year there. 241 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: It can be done. 242 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: Not trying to make it sound simple by any means, 243 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: but I've noticed a little bit of a shift and 244 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: it feels like maybe that patience isn't there as much anymore. 245 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: John Well, the patients went out the window fifteen twenty 246 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 4: years ago. 247 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 6: Got that? 248 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 3: Were you ever around a patient or you got that? 249 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's I think a lot of it is 250 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: what I talked about with Campanelli earlier. So much of 251 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: it is the coaching staff's ability, uh to come in 252 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 4: and have the total buy in and to change the culture, 253 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: and every coach tries to do it. I don't know 254 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 4: if there's something where players are connecting to the young coaches. 255 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: I think you can overplay that a little bit. 256 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: I think the person himself has to be really talented, 257 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: and to. 258 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: Me, duff being around Liam a little bit. 259 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 4: I knew in February or March of last year that 260 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: he was going to be able to call plays. You 261 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 4: could talk to anybody in the league about that. He 262 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: was going to be an ex's and o's guy. What 263 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: you don't know about a guy until they're in front 264 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: of the room or until they're in that position, is 265 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: can they steer the ship? And to me, that's where 266 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 4: Liam was off the charts. I don't know if people 267 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: who hired him knew that he was ready to do 268 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: that good a job in year one, but he is 269 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 4: an unbelievably good leader. 270 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 6: Of that well, no question. 271 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 5: And the players recognize that they can tell if you're 272 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: genuine or not. He garnered very quickly trust and respect 273 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 5: of his players. They knew this guy was a genuine guy, 274 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 5: a guy that cared about them, that cared about their 275 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 5: ability to get better each and every week. And they 276 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 5: know that when players feel that and a guy, then 277 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: they're going to follow that guy. And again, I think 278 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 5: Anthony Edinski layam all of them demonstrate those traits that 279 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 5: the players bought into and believed in. 280 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 6: That's the key. There was no phoniness. It's trust, respect and. 281 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 5: Care that made these guys successful, and they connected that 282 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: with the players. 283 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: That's interesting you say that because I've met are a 284 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: lot of coaches. I've never been around a successful one 285 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: who wasn't genuine no doubt. 286 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think what's cool just to share our 287 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: perspective because we're around them a little bit more. It 288 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: felt like whatever player, whatever level you were on in 289 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: this team, whether you're practice squad, whether you're a star 290 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: on this star on this team, someone that's already been paid, 291 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 2: if you played well and you do what they're asking 292 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: of you, you were going to get playing time. And 293 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: I don't feel it's always that way in the NFL. 294 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: I think sometimes people get tied into, oh, well, I 295 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: need to start this guy because of the optics or 296 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: it has to look like this and stuff it. At 297 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 2: least from my perspective being around Liam, it really felt 298 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 2: like the players appreciated, Hey, if I go bust my button, 299 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: do what they want me to do, I'm going to 300 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: earn playing time on the field, no. 301 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 6: Question about it. 302 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 5: And that was demonstrated week after week in terms of 303 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 5: how guys were activated. 304 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 6: How guys had participation in games. 305 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 5: And that's why this is going to be a sought 306 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 5: after destination for players in whether it be in free 307 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: agency or if I'm a draftable player. Right now, I'm 308 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 5: hoping I'm coming to Jacksonville. I've seen what they've done 309 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 5: with this roster. I've seen the participation. I can play here, 310 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: i can compete here. 311 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 6: I'm cared about here. Those are the components you're looking for. 312 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: At three names, maybe different levels. 313 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: Parker Washington, Antonio Johnson, and Matt Dickerson now great by 314 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: the end of the year. Matt Dickerson was, if not 315 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: a starter, a rotational guy in the defensive Why Antonio 316 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: Johnson nobody really knew last February if he was going 317 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: to roll on the team and Parker Washington was number 318 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 4: four receiver in OTAs major those the three guys will 319 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 4: play a lot next year, Parker and Antonio maybe second 320 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: contract guy, sure, And that speaks to what you're talking about. 321 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: There's no preconceived notions with this bunch. 322 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: Hey, if you were drafted fourth round, whatever, whatever you 323 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 4: did before, it's as much a key to what they 324 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: did last year as anything. 325 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 5: Well, well, look at also look at the participation of 326 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 5: sregaw and green undrafted guy, undrafted guys that were active, 327 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 5: that got opportunities to play, that were productive. I mean, 328 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 5: I mean again, it's up and down the roster right now. 329 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: So I think, again, boy, I think it's awesome what's 330 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: going on here. 331 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 4: I know we run along, but I want to ask 332 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: you why is that so hard? Because it's unique. It 333 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: hasn't been like that around here for a while. 334 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: You know. 335 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: I think sometimes staffs get kind of reliant on players 336 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 5: and and you know, they over they overplay them, or 337 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 5: they you know, they over use them in some respects, 338 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 5: and so you know, the easy choice sometimes is just 339 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: to go with what you know, have we done? This 340 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 5: group has been very, very good at again trying to 341 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 5: develop everybody, not just the starter, not just the star, 342 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 5: but the entire roster from top to bottom. And then, 343 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 5: as Kai mentioned, if you do put forth and you 344 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 5: do work hard, you're gonna get an opportunity to play. 345 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 6: They have not. 346 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 5: That hasn't just been words or lips. It's been the real. 347 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: Deal as well. 348 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: For the future to amen, So a little super Bowl 349 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: I always have to watch when you're not in it. 350 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: But I made some snacks, so I was happy and 351 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: I was just eating the whole time. But the Patriots 352 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: kind of losing a blowout to the Seahawks. Obviously we 353 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: played the Seahawks, John, we saw what they can do 354 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: on defense. I was certainly not surprised by that, how 355 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: dominant they were able to be. But you know, it 356 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: always feels like a little bit of a missed opportunity 357 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: when you see the play like that. 358 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: Well, especially when you felt like there were to me, 359 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: there were six teams they see all who could have 360 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: gone the Texans. 361 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: We all know the teams. Uh the Jagglers were one of. 362 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: Them, and it and it did make you thank boy. 363 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: One break here, one match up here. 364 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: Uh. I thought the Super. 365 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: Bowl was interesting in that and uh, duff, you've been 366 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: around as long as I have. The Seahawks to me, 367 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 4: felt like a throwback team, like a seventies or eighties team, 368 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 4: where all of a sudden you look up and they're 369 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: playing for field position, they're playing for field goals. They're 370 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: leaning on their defense, which is not really what's vogue 371 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: in the NFL. 372 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: Take me points. Yeah, it showed you can still win. 373 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: You can still be dominant if your lines are that 374 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: much better than the rest of the league. 375 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: Case. To me, those lines were outstanding. 376 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 5: No question, and that you know, we've always said that's 377 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: where the games are won. They're one of the on 378 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage when you see the the play 379 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: of their defense and their special teams. 380 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 6: I mean, whether it was your. 381 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: Punter, whether it was her field goal point getter, if 382 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: you will kicker, as far as. 383 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 6: That's concerned, I mean, it was awesome. It was a 384 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 6: clinic really in terms of. 385 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: You know, folloumental Yeah, correct. 386 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 5: Fundamentals that can win the game for you. And really, 387 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 5: you know, New England was similar to that too. They 388 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 5: were playing pretty close to the vest, maybe too close 389 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 5: and in a lot of ways in terms of what 390 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 5: they were doing offensively. But you know, if you're a 391 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 5: defensive coaching but tickler special teams guy, it's a pretty 392 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 5: darn good game. 393 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: I just felt like they won the mental battle too, 394 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: because I felt like as much as they got after 395 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: Drake May early on, and I know he's a young quarterback, 396 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 2: but then even by the second half when they made adjustments, 397 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't going to make a difference. 398 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: At that point. 399 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: And that's just impressive to me that they Seattle. Just 400 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 2: the way they approached that game, and probably the way 401 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: they approached the whole season due to McDonald and kind 402 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: of the way they were going about things, I felt 403 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: like they won it before it even began. 404 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 5: Well, I tell they came out right from the get 405 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: go and established it. Hey we're coming after you. You know, 406 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 5: they mixed it up in terms of whether it was 407 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 5: four man rush zone, pressures, fire zones, zero blitz, full blitz. 408 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 6: They mixed that up, and. 409 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 5: They really rush and coverage working together, the Skies working together. 410 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 6: They gave Drake me the entire book and it was 411 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 6: tough for him to operate with that. 412 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some teams. 413 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 4: I mean, they weren't particularly flashy, but I remember watching 414 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: them out here that day when they won, and the 415 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 4: entire season. 416 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: I kept saying, I know, the jay Wars can get 417 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: to the super Bowl. 418 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: You felt like they may have been able to figure 419 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: out some things against the Rams if it had been 420 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 4: the Rams, And I just kept saying, I don't know 421 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 4: how any team. 422 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 3: From the AFC. 423 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 4: As much as I would have hoped the Jaguars would 424 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 4: have won, I just felt like Seattle. It was one 425 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: of those years where I did feel like there was 426 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: a big difference between the first team and the rest 427 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 4: of the teams. Now, I know that doesn't add up 428 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: because the Rams beat them and closed between those two. 429 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: But sometimes not every year, but sometimes it feels like 430 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: the best team won it. 431 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't think you can argue that Seaws weren't the 432 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 3: best teams. 433 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 6: Ye, no, I thought they were very good. 434 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 5: But I will also say, you know, when you know 435 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 5: that we we played them, I think twenty to twelve 436 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 5: I think was our score in the game. I mean, 437 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 5: and as the season went on, shoot, I felt I mean, shoot, 438 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 5: we should have beaten Buffalo in the playoffs. I mean, 439 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 5: they didn't scare me or scare this team. And when 440 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 5: you look at it, I have great confidence, great feeling 441 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 5: that things, you know, staying strong, like they are moving forward. 442 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 6: I think the future is very bright. 443 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely's talk a little bit about some changes elsewhere in 444 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: the league. We saw a ton of head coaching vacancies, 445 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: some of them swapping head coaches, head coach going to 446 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: head coach somewhere else, to fancy going from Cleveland in Atlanta, as. 447 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: We've seen elsewhere. 448 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: From the Ravens the Giants with Harbaugh, but in the 449 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: division Robert Sallan now the head coach of the Titans. 450 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: John we gotta be fun. But I'm I don't know. 451 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: It's uh see him twice a year. 452 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: Look at its core, the NFL is supposed to be fun, right, yes, 453 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 4: And the fact that Salah and Cohen got into it 454 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 4: a little bit last year, Uh, it's. 455 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: Entertainment at the end of the day. 456 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: And I know everybody in the league, and it's it's 457 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 4: it's your profession. 458 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: It's your livelihood. It's otherworldly important. 459 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 4: But rivalries and a little drama do add to it, 460 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 4: and they make it fun. So this will be fun 461 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: to watch. Will make more of it than they do. 462 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: But that's what we do. 463 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: Duff. Yeah, no, I think that's what you do now. 464 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 6: No, No, but I you know it adds. 465 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 5: I'll promise you that it adds a lot to the 466 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 5: weekly preparation and the focus as far as that's concerned. 467 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 5: Not that you need anything to add to it, but 468 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 5: it certainly does. And what the heck I mean, we're 469 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 5: in this to win it. You know, that's a highly 470 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: competitive situation. And what the flip? You know, I didn't 471 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: like to shake hands with anybody before you play. You 472 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: worked your dad going hard. We're not going to give 473 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 5: anything away, So I like it a lot. 474 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: I love it too, and I think let's speak a 475 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: little bit to all the changes, because I won't just 476 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: pile on Sala because I think any reason to dislike 477 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: the Titans will take around here. But not only had 478 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: coaching changes. I think I don't know the exact number, 479 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: but the offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator changes. 480 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 3: Around the league. 481 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: I cannot imagine that there are many teams that are 482 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: returning all three head coach and then both coordinators. There 483 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: can't be many at this point because so many have changed. 484 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 2: We talked about that patience. A lot of people are 485 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: trying to find the magic formula. 486 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I kind of go both ways on it, 487 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 4: the old school guy and me. 488 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 3: I think teams overdo this. 489 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: I think there is a lot to be said for 490 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: you got your coaching staff, give them a chance to 491 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: have some continuity. I think Black Monday sometimes goes way 492 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 4: overboard and coaches lose their jobs that shouldn't. At the 493 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 4: same time, when you have quick turnarounds like you had, 494 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: I do think it's turning into more. 495 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: Of the NBA and the. 496 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: Hat on other sports where they change manager and coaches 497 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: and just want quick change the results. So maybe it 498 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: works stuff. I mean, you're probably as conflicted as I am. 499 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 6: I am conflicted, you know, I very much am. 500 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 5: You know, I think that sometimes I think it's just well, hey, 501 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 5: let's just do it to do it and whimsically a 502 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 5: lot of way and you know, or let's make a 503 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 5: splash right now for whatever reason we want it yesterday, 504 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 5: we want success yesterday. Well, you know, I don't know 505 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 5: that that's clearly not the answer in my opinion, and 506 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 5: I do think that it does take some time, but 507 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 5: clearly when things aren't getting done, you've got to make 508 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: the change. 509 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 6: So I mean, it's a. 510 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 5: I think you try to apply as best a logical 511 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 5: and realistic. 512 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 6: Source, if you will, or a way to try to 513 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 6: make those decisions. And I hope it doesn't have become 514 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 6: just something we're going to do. 515 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: To do it, you know, thanks to the control room, 516 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: twenty one offensive coordinator changes the season across the league 517 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: two thirds of leagues, and you look different on offenses here. 518 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: See, and that to me orders on ridiculous. It is 519 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: ridic uh. 520 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: I mean, some of that is. 521 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: Some of that is offensive ordinators being hired and says coaches, 522 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: some of that is that. 523 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: But two thirds of the league looking different is crazy. 524 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I I to me, we're sometimes coordinator storied to 525 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 4: death these days. 526 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: I grew up a huge, huge uh NFL fan. 527 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 4: Until fifteen twenty years ago, nobody who, nobody knew who 528 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 4: the coordinators were, right, and all of a sudden, they're 529 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: all mad geniuses and all this. And I get that 530 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 4: there's something to that, but I I do think overall 531 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,479 Speaker 4: the league changes a little bit too quickly on that, 532 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: looking for the next best thing. Uh but Liam had 533 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 4: the success this year, so that's what you're going to follow, 534 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: and so did Rabel, so did Ben Johnson. 535 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 3: Uh so it's not changing. 536 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 6: No, I would, I would. 537 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: I was so pleased, like I said, we were a 538 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: coach was able to keep his staff. But I knew 539 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: that there would be a major attack on this staff 540 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 5: because of you know, the success, reductive success. 541 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 6: That they had this year. 542 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 5: And uh, you know, that's that's good for everybody. 543 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 6: It's good for your staff, it's good for your coaches. 544 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: But thank god they were able to stay together because 545 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: again I said, I think there's a lot going on 546 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 5: that's very very good. 547 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 3: Now enjoy it now because it ain't gonna be the same. 548 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Jaguars enjoyed this year for sure. 549 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 2: Say well, let we're gonna do an ozone mail bag 550 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: as John Oder will give us his wisdom is answer 551 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: some of your fan questions after the break friendly. 552 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back and welcome back to Jags. I am as 553 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: we took him with a. 554 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: Zone because we always like to see what you know 555 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: and share your wisdom with the rest of us. Obviously, 556 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: the viewers always write into you and have some questions. 557 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: Let's start out with Michael from Orange Park. Is John 558 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 2: one thing I haven't seen is the possib the ability 559 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: of tagging oidter etn. What do you think obviously franchise 560 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: tag on a running back and a linebacker. 561 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, may not happen. 562 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: Look it it's uh, I would love if both these 563 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 4: guys came back. 564 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: Uh. 565 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 4: I think it's it's unlikely in my gut that either 566 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: is back because of the salary and the position, and 567 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: the tag for Lloyd would be I I should have 568 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: looked up the number four, but it's astronomical for a 569 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: a a linebacker, particularly who's not a sad guy, so 570 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: it just wouldn't fit into what you we normally see 571 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 4: around the league. 572 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 573 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: To me, the tag for somebody like Travis makes sense 574 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 4: because running back is often especially where he is going 575 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: into his sixth year, that is a taggable year because 576 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: you can you know, hey say it this way, but 577 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 4: you can run running backs out, let them go once 578 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 4: you feel like they're past their prime. 579 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: Uh. 580 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: But I don't think that will be an option. I mean, 581 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: I don't think that will be what either team does. 582 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 4: The tag window, by the way, opens today, ends March third. 583 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: I don't think you'll see it. I'd love to see 584 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: both of them back, but I'm kind of resigned that 585 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: they will. 586 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: I probably won't be. 587 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was kind of hoping, you know, for both, 588 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 6: And we'll see how develops. 589 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 3: Chart. 590 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 5: As you mentioned, Etn makes a lot of sense in 591 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 5: that regard on the tag, not only as a rusher, 592 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 5: but as a receiver, as a protector, all the things 593 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 5: that he does that I thought brought a lot of 594 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 5: value to the offense this year. So it'll be interesting 595 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 5: to see how this moves forward. 596 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see, And I'm just speculating, but you haven't 597 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 4: heard much about it yet, and usually if there's going 598 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 4: to be some momentum for re signing, the whispers sort 599 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 4: of starting not inside I'm saying from like national, So 600 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: we'll see I hope we see both of them in 601 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: Jaguars uniforms. 602 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's talk a little bit more about this new regime, 603 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: what they're going to be doing in the off season. 604 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: Mason from Palm Bay, did you guys make the trip 605 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: to Mobile for the Senior Bowl this year? Was it 606 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 2: do to not having a first round pick or did 607 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: the new decision makers not see value in attending that event? 608 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 4: Well, media wise, we didn't go, meaning Kai Bryant and 609 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,719 Speaker 4: I am. There's representation from the Jaguars at all these 610 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: off season things, but the decision makers, you know, I 611 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 4: wasn't at the Senior Bowl. 612 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: I don't think any of the top guys were there. 613 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 4: And the top guys meaning Liam and James, my understanding 614 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 4: is won't go to the combine and I'll let them 615 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 4: speak to exactly why. But it's more that they just 616 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 4: don't really believe that on you know, seeing these guys 617 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 4: run forties is not necessarily how they want to have 618 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 4: their impressions. 619 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: Madeary Olympics, so. 620 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: They don't want to have their impressions solely by non 621 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 4: football things. It's more of a philosophical point of view. 622 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 4: And the Rams do this way, Duff. They don't send 623 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: McVeigh or less need to that event. The Rams of 624 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 4: the North Star here, So I think that will be 625 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: their approach and they just choose to keep their evaluations 626 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 4: claim from that input. 627 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think a lot of teams are moving 628 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 6: in that direction right now. 629 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 5: Each and every year, less and less staffs are shown 630 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 5: up at the combine. You can get all the data, 631 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 5: you can see all the video, you know, a lot 632 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 5: of it. 633 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 6: With free agencies. 634 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 5: Looming right now, stand at home and making sure you've 635 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 5: got your ideas on your team and potential free agents 636 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 5: coming up makes a lot of sense. 637 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: So for you, you see the value in this. 638 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 6: Each absolutely, I do see a lot of it. 639 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 5: You know, again, what's most important when you evaluate players 640 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 5: is what they're doing on film playing football. The combine, 641 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 5: the measurables, the underwear work, all's part of the equation. 642 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 5: But I think that you can get all that data, 643 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 5: like I said, so it's all on video. You can 644 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 5: see every interview there. So I think stand at home, 645 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 5: continuing to work internally with what your upcoming decisions are 646 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: makes a lot of sense. 647 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: That's going to hurt the bar revenues and downtown No, No. 648 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: JG is still going jab Shatrick will be there, so 649 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: they will be just fine. 650 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: So it'll be fine. 651 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: Let's look ahead also, well looking back a little bit. 652 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: Fred from Naples says the only surefire Hall of Famer 653 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: next year might be former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. 654 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: Is this a year that Fred Taylor has a chance? 655 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: Is it going to be next year? Here's hoping. I'm right. 656 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 657 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff that goes into this, and. 658 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 4: I know, John, you're this could be a long, long, 659 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: long discussion we probably have time for on this show. 660 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: But the Hall of Fame needs to get fixed. 661 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: It is they put in voting restrictions and rules for 662 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: twenty five that has shrunk the class and I can 663 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 4: go into the details of it, but there's percentages involved 664 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: and a long story short. What used to be sort 665 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: of a guaranteed seven or eight member class has shrunk 666 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 4: to four or five in the last couple of years. 667 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: That's not the way you want to go. 668 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: This is not baseball, where there's nine players, there's twenty 669 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: two to twenty five positions in the NFL with thirty 670 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: two teams, four. 671 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: Or five players a year, in my opinion, is not enough. 672 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: I hope the Hall. 673 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 4: I hope that the fallout from Bill Belichick not getting 674 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 4: in is that the Hall looks at its process and says, 675 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: we've got to do this better. It's not the voters. 676 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 4: I know people are angry at the voters. The voters 677 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 4: are trying to do the best job they can. Their 678 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: hands were tied a little bit too much the last 679 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 4: couple of years. To me, have an avenue where you 680 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: can get at least one coach and contributor in five players, 681 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 4: a couple of senior guys. I don't see anything wrong 682 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: with honoring the people who have put this game where 683 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: it is. Fred's chances, I think will be tough if 684 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: the system stays as it is now. 685 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: I think if it opens up a little bit. 686 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 4: To me, knowing his career like I do, he's absolutely 687 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame. I think it will take the 688 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: voting system expanded for people to give him a second look. 689 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: But maybe a little bias. I think Fred and Jimmy 690 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: are absolute Hall of Famers. 691 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 5: What you just said I was very well stated, and 692 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 5: I can tell you up front, Fred Taylor belongs in 693 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame. 694 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 6: I coordinated against him, defended against him. 695 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 5: In fact, the closest we ever came, any of my 696 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 5: players ever came to him is when I came here 697 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 5: to coach and I was just close to him in practice. 698 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 5: You know, I said, my god, we never got that 699 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 5: close to you. What a great player and what a 700 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 5: great uh you know, spokesman for this franchise and absolutely 701 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 5: deserves Hall of Fame induction. 702 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll ever change, but if there's 703 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: a way to include some of the people that are 704 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: already in the Hall, because the respect that Fred Taylor 705 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: Garner's from Hall of Famers, who will come out and 706 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: tell you he was one of the hardest running backs 707 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: for them to stop, or the person they always had 708 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: the game plan for. 709 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: Because players, Yeah, yeah. 710 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 5: What you're just saying players players know all right in 711 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 5: their voice and their input I think is really necessary, 712 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 5: just as you're saying. 713 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 4: And honestly, Jimmy Smith, because he has not been a finalist, 714 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 4: has really gotten overlooked in the conversations that we had 715 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: because Fred has been closer. 716 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: Jimmy was the same way. 717 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 4: If you look at Jimmy's numbers ten years, nine thousand 718 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 4: yard seasons in ten years. One year he didn't make it. 719 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 4: He had like eight hundred and he was out twelve 720 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 4: out four games. 721 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: He's a Hall of Famer. 722 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 4: I don't know that the momentum can get him back 723 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: in that conversation, but yeah. 724 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 6: So, I mean again, a nightmare for defensive coach. 725 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 5: Is a terrific player with you all the way, incredible 726 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 5: statu money player all the time. I mean, just a 727 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 5: guy that I would have told you a no brainer 728 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 5: when we were trying to defend him. 729 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes what happens is once guys retire for some reason, 730 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 4: they get forgotten about a little bit because people walk 731 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 4: in on a stage. 732 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't have a lot of touchdowns. 733 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: But when you were covering him for four or five 734 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 4: years in the nineties, it was Jerry Rice, Randy Moss 735 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: and Jimmy Smith in terms and when you talk to corners, 736 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 4: how do we defend this guy? He was so big, combination, strength, speed, 737 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 4: You couldn't. 738 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 6: Talk to corners, talk to coaches, not even close. 739 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: We will see what things look like next year. 740 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: I do believe the Bill Belichick situation may make them 741 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: look at things a little bit differently. But say it's 742 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: here on Jackson will tell you what's coming up the 743 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: restless offseason schedule, Jaggs, fans, is time to lock in 744 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: your seats were twenty twenty six by placing your deposits now. 745 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: Next season will be played at EverBank Stadium, but the 746 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: seating capacity is going to be limited due to those 747 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: renovations that are going on right now. So don't miss 748 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 2: out on your chance to see the season's biggest matchups. 749 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: Place your deposit now on your tickets. You can head 750 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: over to Jaguars dot com slash tickets to do that. 751 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: So it's the off season now officially, officially the Super 752 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: Bowl has gone by John, what's the calendar kind of 753 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 2: looking like? We talked about franchise tag free agency up next, 754 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: and then draft at some point. 755 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: The franchise tag transition windows the next two weeks. The 756 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 4: combine will go on as planned even without me, Duff. 757 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 4: You know it's it's a UH and a free agency UH. 758 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 4: The window for for UH negotiating March ninth, eleventh, and 759 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 4: then and then the real action starts four pm March eleventh, 760 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 4: when trades can get finalized. You'll see a lot of 761 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 4: trade uh around the league in the next two or 762 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 4: three weeks. Those will all penned until four pm on 763 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: on the league year, and then uh you know, fans 764 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 4: will get to complain about whether their teams didn't do. 765 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: Though we love to do that play. 766 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: Uh well, it was it not Monday morning quarterback. 767 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: It'll be Monday morning uh GM. But duff h. 768 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 2: What is this free agency class kind of looking like? 769 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: We talked about obviously our two main free agents, but 770 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: what's the rest of the class kind of look like? 771 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 5: You Well, I think there's a lot of interesting uh 772 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 5: possibilities for teams, you know, in terms of trying to 773 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 5: improve your offense and defense with these guys that are 774 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 5: coming out. 775 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 6: So it's a it's a time right. 776 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 5: Now where the coaching staffs are doing long studies of 777 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 5: guys that are available, writing them up, giving them their 778 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 5: their opinion, their strengths and weaknesses, and how they can 779 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 5: fit in to the current rosters. So it's a it's 780 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 5: a very uh I'd loved it in terms of a 781 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 5: coach at this time trying to find out more about 782 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 5: players digging around trying to determine what kind of attitude, 783 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 5: what kind of personality, what kind of effort filled player 784 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 5: are they or are they not to bring to your roster. 785 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 5: And and I have a lot of confidence in this 786 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 5: staff right now, the the pro side and the coaching 787 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 5: staff at selection process based on what they've done so far. 788 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's gonna be interesting to see what they do. 789 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 4: I I don't think they're gonna be as high profile 790 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 4: active as they were last year, cause they don't really. 791 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 3: Need to be. But I think they will bring in. 792 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 4: A few guys at spots uh in the I in 793 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 4: the Robert Hainsey mode meaning Okay, maybe you haven't necessarily 794 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 4: heard of him as a free agent when they're saying 795 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 4: on the top fifty list, but came in and solidified 796 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 4: an area. 797 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: And I think the big thing to watch as we 798 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: move on. I don't think active in free agency is 799 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 3: as important this year. 800 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 4: Kayleab Brand saw Travis Hunter, Wyatt milem base Sheltude. 801 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: Everybody's talking about how they didn't. 802 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 4: Get a lot out of his draft class this year, 803 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 4: And I know, whatever second year jump for that group, 804 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 4: I think is the area where people are gonna overlook 805 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 4: all off season, and I think you're gonna see this 806 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 4: team getting better from a lot of these guys. 807 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a major bonus. 808 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 5: You know, those guys are somewhere unknown in somewhere areas, 809 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 5: but internally, I think there's a lot that is known, 810 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 5: and so I think you are going to see. 811 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 6: A big jump, a big production from those guys. 812 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely getting him healthy and getting a second year in 813 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: the system, second year in the NFL. 814 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: So we'll be back next week talk a little more football, 815 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: but enjoy week. 816 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for seeing us on Jags Am