1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe. 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 3: Why did you do it? 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 4: I did it because I was foolish. 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 5: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 5: Kenny Florid. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of it. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 6: Job Corta. 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 7: A couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists. 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 5: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Floria. 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 8: Host And if you do not like the drop time 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 8: of this week's episode, you should blame Kenny Florian's new 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 8: travels schedule. It's Monday, April twenty six, twenty twenty one. 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 8: It's great to be with you, arguably never greater for 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 8: us to be with you for. 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 6: More reasons than one. 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 8: It's episode like two ninety eight of the Anak and 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 8: Florian Podcast. And there is so much to get to 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 8: after a mixed martial arts weekend that you and I 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 8: will be talking about for some time. I mean, UFC 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 8: two sixty one, singularly, for me, is the most memorable. 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 6: Live event I've been a part of. 27 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 8: And if you want to call that recency bias because 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 8: it just happened, then that's okay. And maybe I would 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 8: say it's leaning into the negative a little bit the 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 8: way this event started with these two injuries that had 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 8: people texting me that they were turning off their TVs 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 8: because they just couldn't see anymore. Right, And if you 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 8: did turn your TV off, you missed some of the 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 8: greatest championship finishes in UFC history. Ken Flow had a 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 8: busy weekend as well. You are sun splashed. 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 6: Where are you now? 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 8: Looks like a different hotel. Are you not in Atlanta City, 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 8: New Jersey anymore? 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 9: I am. 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 10: I am actually in the exact same hotel, exact same 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 10: hotel room, just with I think a little more sun 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 10: right now. It's kind of blinder, But dude, I couldn't 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 10: agree with you more. It was crazy to see just 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 10: all the fans in there. It was awesome to see 45 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 10: that things are starting to get back to normal. 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 6: It was much needed. The energy just seemed different and man, 47 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 6: what a night. 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, I guess we should start with the crowds as 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 8: we do our headlines. And I often thought about this 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 8: episode as I was going through my day with the 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 8: six pm Eastern start time, and I thought I could 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 8: just not cuss today and treat it like a UFC 53 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 8: live event, right because people are like, oh, how do 54 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 8: you not swear on air? 55 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 6: And it's like, what's really fucking hot? You know? 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 8: But no, if I don't swear today, because I know 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 8: there are a bunch of kids listen, I can do that. 58 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 8: So if you have a child who listens to the 59 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 8: show on a weekly basis, I would like to hear 60 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 8: from you at John Underscore, annek on social media. I 61 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 8: know we have some ten and eleven year old girls 62 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 8: out there that listen. Incidentally, they are my favorite listeners. 63 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 8: I put you guys ahead of my dog, who listened sporadically. 64 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 8: But if you have kids who listen to this podcast, 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 8: I want to hear from you, especially after today, because 66 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 8: I'm not going to control the language because kamorrow us fucking' 67 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 8: usman can flow like I mean, it's funny because I 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 8: saw Dana White at the post by press conference talk 69 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 8: about him being on his way to being the greatest 70 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 8: of all time, And that's kind. 71 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 6: Of what I see. 72 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 8: And you put that type of dream and legacy on 73 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 8: the line every time you fight, when you've won eighteen 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 8: in a row and you're chasing Anderson Silva's record that 75 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 8: we thought nobody would break. What'd you make of Kamara 76 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 8: Usman making relatively quick work of a very game Jorge 77 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 8: game Bred Masvidal. 78 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 10: I tell you what I noticed two things. First of all, 79 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 10: I noticed a champion in Kamara Uzman who was very 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 10: much at home. As he was walking into the yachtagon 81 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 10: and about to get to fight, he looked so relaxed, 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 10: so at ease, so ready to go. I mean he 83 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 10: was dancing his way to the y octagon literally and then 84 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 10: and just the way he was moving his body and 85 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 10: his facial expressions, he just seemed ready. Now on the 86 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 10: opposite side of things was Jorge Monsvidal, who looked to 87 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 10: me like he was tense, tentative, you. 88 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 6: Know, and didn't seem that now. 89 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 10: I don't know if that was just the area of 90 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 10: Camorrow coming in there, or Camorrow has just been there 91 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 10: so many times. But I think this is a guy 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 10: Kamara Uzman, who really is feeling himself at this point. 93 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 6: He knows what kind of fighter and what kind of 94 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 6: champion he. 95 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 10: Is, and he's coming into his own now as a 96 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 10: defending champion. 97 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 6: That is bad news for everybody else. 98 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: Man. 99 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 6: He put on quite the performance on Saturday Night. 100 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 8: I remember when he beat Hider Hassan in twenty fifteen, 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 8: thinking even then that we had a real problem on 102 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 8: our hands potentially, right. And obviously there's been tremendous skill 103 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 8: development and commitment from him. And I think it's an 104 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 8: interesting angle when you talk about Trevor Whitman and that 105 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 8: his intention to go train with Trevor preceded the Gilbert 106 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 8: Burns fight, that even though Henry hoofton theory would have 107 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 8: been in his corner long term and he is not 108 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 8: in his corner any longer, that the Trevor Whitman thing 109 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 8: was going to happen. And I mean, what else can 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 8: you say about what Trevor Whitman has done to sort of, 111 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 8: you know, take Henry hooft Dutch kickboxing style to that 112 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 8: next level with with this jab and these hands and 113 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 8: oh my gosh, man, I am just blown away, blown away. 114 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 6: Well, obviously it's working. 115 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 10: I think that Trevor is way better about the overall 116 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 10: striking game. As far as you know, it's one thing, 117 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 10: you know, to go forward and throw combinations. Anyone can 118 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 10: kind of teach that, but I think you got to 119 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 10: You got to understand the whys and the wins. And 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 10: I think the Camorrow is starting to understand that, and 121 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 10: he's way safer now when he's going into strike. He's 122 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 10: picking the right moments, he's fainting. 123 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 6: His way in. He's very loose and relaxed, which is 124 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 6: now unleashing the power within kamaraw Uzmann when it comes 125 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 6: to the striking game. Right. So I think it is 126 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 6: just it's it's worked extremely well. You know. 127 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 10: I also think that certain coaches just mesh and speak 128 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 10: the same language of other fighters. And I think, for 129 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 10: whatever reason, Trevor right because he is a very knowledgeable 130 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 10: and experienced coach, and he's very good at what he does. 131 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 10: It's speaking to Kamar Usman, and Usman is believing in 132 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 10: what he's learning. So it's a perfect match. Tomorrow is 133 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 10: no doubt a better fighter since he left Florida, and 134 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 10: it's great to see Man because now people not only 135 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 10: is the great is he a great champion, but people 136 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 10: want to see Kamorrow Uzman fight. 137 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 9: Right. 138 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 6: That wasn't always the case, so it's great to see. 139 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 8: So I don't know if you're one of those who 140 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 8: mutes the broadcast. I think I said on the broadcast that, 141 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 8: like Floyd Mayweather, allows a striking fight to build. That 142 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 8: was something Kamar Usman said in our fighter meeting that 143 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 8: he now understands how to let a striking style fight build, 144 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 8: and in a kickboxing match with no wrestling, I think 145 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 8: he's very competitive now, right. I mean he has a 146 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 8: lot of weapons and maybe before he had some of 147 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 8: the tools but he didn't know how to use it. 148 00:06:58,640 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 6: Well, well, dude, I tell you what. 149 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 10: I think that Gilbert Burns fight, that Gilbert Burns win 150 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 10: beating a guy who from what I heard, they used 151 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 10: to go tip for tat in training and it was 152 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 10: kind of back and forth wars all the time in 153 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 10: the gym. I think him getting that result in the 154 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 10: way that he did it gave him a renewed confidence 155 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 10: in his striking, where now he's like, wait a sec, 156 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 10: I can do that. 157 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 6: I know I can do that. 158 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 10: I am going to continue to do that against anyone 159 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 10: in everyone that I faced from. 160 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 6: Here on out, and the Burns win. You're so right. 161 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 8: You cannot overstate the confidence that that gave him, not 162 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 8: just in terms of the skill set, right, But that 163 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 8: was a hard fight for Kamorrow emotions now, physically and mentally. 164 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 6: This was a really hard fight. 165 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 8: And Kenny, if you saw Kamorrow's I'm not saying it, 166 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 8: it played out as a hard fight, but a hard 167 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 8: fight to prepare for. If you saw kamar Usman's postfight 168 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 8: interview with Joe Rogan, twice, he said that masiital elevated 169 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 8: his game. And the reason he says that, in my opinion, 170 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 8: is because you're not just fighting the fighter, right. And 171 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 8: you'll hear a lot of fighters say we and not 172 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 8: I in these fighter meetings, and I like those guys. 173 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 6: You're taking on Mike Brown, right, Actually, you. 174 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 8: Know what, let me go above that, you're taking on 175 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 8: Dan Lambert, okay, an owner of American Top Team who 176 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 8: has all the resources and will put all of them 177 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 8: forward to try to fucking be Kamara Usman, right. And 178 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 8: then you have Mike Brown, who's a mastermind who does 179 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 8: have head to head win wins over Trevor Whipman. I 180 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 8: know this night didn't go well, but I think maybe 181 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 8: Pourier against Gage. I don't know, But I don't even 182 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 8: know what the hell I'm saying. I'm having a bad 183 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 8: show so far. I'm a little bit all over the place. 184 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 8: But you know, you kind of know what I mean. 185 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 6: Not true, not true, No, absolutely, dude, Listen. 186 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 10: I think that anytime you're facing that level of opposition, 187 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 10: you are then going to bring everything at your disposal 188 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 10: and and seek out the resources that you need. Right 189 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 10: it becomes this war not only of one on one, 190 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 10: but team versus team and who can pool the best resources. 191 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 10: And I think that you know, for kamara Usman, he's 192 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 10: going and doing that, especially now that he's making some 193 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 10: good coin, he can go in and ring in other 194 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 10: people and do what he needs to do with this 195 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 10: guy is continuing to get better man. 196 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 6: And it's a beautiful thing because I always appreciated the 197 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: kind of fighter that kamar Uzman is. 198 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, but I tell you what, from the moment that 199 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 10: fight started, actually, for the moment he walked out of 200 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 10: his dressing room, he just looked ready. 201 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 6: He owned the moment. 202 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 10: There was no hesitation there was confidence from the get go, 203 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 10: and that was a beautiful thing. He's coming into his 204 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 10: own so watch out. 205 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 8: Biggest difference between him and George Saint Pierre is that 206 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 8: one of them loves fight night and one of them 207 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 8: did not. I mean, Camar really does like to fight, 208 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 8: you know, like he would probably enjoy getting I guess 209 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 8: I shouldn't say this, but challenged in the street right Like, 210 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 8: he is very much willing and able at any time, 211 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 8: any place. You know, he's a fighters fighter, he really is. 212 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 8: He embraces that that part of it, that one on 213 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 8: one competition. He craves it and he thrives. And it's 214 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 8: funny because increasingly, like the dance looks looser every fight. 215 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 6: To your point, like, I'm glad you high led at that, and. 216 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 10: John, you know, he is definitely embracing the fight. But 217 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 10: he's not an idiot. 218 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 6: This is a smart fighter. He knows what he's good at. Yea. 219 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 10: He knows when to do it, he knows how to 220 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 10: do it, he knows who he needs to do it against. 221 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 6: This guy is a brilliant fighter. 222 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 10: I'm telling you, Like what kind of dammage did he 223 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 10: take out there against mos Vidal? 224 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 6: How much maybe a caf kick. 225 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, that was right, right, So the thing is with 226 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 8: calf kicks man, and we're gonna obviously we can't go 227 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 8: a show. 228 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 6: Does not the fly where any low? 229 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 8: I know, I know, I know, I know, I don't 230 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 8: know what to say. But in terms of the seminal blow, 231 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 8: the fight ending shot, you know, Horney Mosfidal had absorbed 232 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 8: a couple of these prior in this fight, and it 233 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 8: looked kind of like a harbinger of things to come. 234 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 8: What were your thoughts on sort of the fight ending 235 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 8: sequence sort of you know, kind of a feint that 236 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 8: set up the massive right hand. 237 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 6: I thought it was a thing of beauty. 238 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 10: He was finding a lot of success with his one 239 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 10: two combination and was finding it a lot in the 240 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 10: form of the right hand. And to me, I think 241 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 10: the previous fight in a lot of ways, is what 242 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 10: won him this fight. I think Masvidal was expecting him 243 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 10: to wrestle so much more. 244 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 6: He was waiting for that shot. He was so prepared 245 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 6: for the wrestling that he was not prepared for the striking, 246 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 6: and I don't think he. 247 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 10: Respected the improved striking game of Kamara Uzman. Usman was fainting, 248 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 10: he was going high, he was going low. He was 249 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 10: mixing things up, but all the while keeping it simple. 250 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 10: I can do I can faint a double leg, I 251 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 10: can faint the jab, and I can do a cross right. 252 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 6: George Saint Pierre, same thing. There wasn't a whole lot 253 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 6: that he did. George A. 254 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 10: Pierre had an amazing job. He had a superman punch right, 255 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 10: and he had his double leg and there was not. 256 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 6: A damn thing you could do to stop it. Kamar 257 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 6: Luman's the same deal. Like you knew it was coming, 258 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 6: but there was nothing you could do to stop it. 259 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 10: And I think there was underestimation on the part of 260 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 10: Masvidal and there was the improvement of Kamorrow. He was 261 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 10: waiting for that shot. He was laying early, and moz Vidal, 262 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 10: to me, looked tense. He looked actually a little bit 263 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 10: slow because of that tension. Yeah, he just did see 264 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 10: them saying this is not taking away from Tomorrow, because 265 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 10: I'm not sure one hundred top a, you know, Mozvedal 266 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 10: would have been able to do anything against this uzman. 267 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 10: But to me, something was off with Mosvidal, and I 268 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 10: think it was hesitation, maybe because he was expecting a 269 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 10: wrestling heavy game plan from tomorrow and that never materialized. 270 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 8: Longdo's gonna kill me? I didn't have my phone on. 271 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 8: He's been in the waiting room for two minutes. Let's 272 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 8: get to long ago minute. Oh my god, I'm. 273 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 6: Gonna put a hole in. 274 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 5: The very long minute the John nik and Kenny Florian podcast. 275 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 8: All right, Cody, from now on, as soon as this 276 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 8: motherfucker sits in the sea, you need to start to 277 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 8: start speeding. 278 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 6: Okay. 279 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 7: Oh, well, it's recording. 280 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 6: It's okay, that's how one I want to edit it. 281 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: All right, So yeah, you well you have carte blanche. 282 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 8: You are the executive producer, which means your your power actually. 283 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,359 Speaker 6: Supersedes Kenny Florian's. 284 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 8: Three times Ken Flow fought for a fucking UFC title, 285 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 8: and Kobe has more. 286 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 6: Power on this program. 287 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 8: But it is great to have Raymond Peter Longo with us, 288 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 8: my man, and we thank you for giving us extended 289 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 8: time today because I know it has been a huge 290 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 8: ordeal over the last forty eight hours or so, and 291 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 8: all the love and respect and thought and prayer from 292 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 8: me and Kenny and the whole MMA community has been 293 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 8: with you. I mean, you were at the forefront of 294 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 8: our thoughts, of course, as we saw what happened to 295 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 8: Chris Wiman over the weekend. 296 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 6: I don't even know. 297 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 8: Where to begin, my man, but it's nice to see you. 298 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 8: I'm glad you're home safely. I'm glad Chris can drive 299 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 8: and not fly on Wednesday. How are you holding up? 300 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's you know, it's good. It's it's a little 301 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 11: surreal because you know, like again, man, everything you know, 302 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 11: it's sometimes everything you do everything right and it goes 303 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 11: wrong and you know, vice versa. But man, the way 304 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 11: coat was the best I've ever seen. The rehigh went well. 305 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 11: Is warm up in the dressing room was great. Uh yeah, 306 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 11: you know, his head was in. 307 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 9: The right spot. It just it's it's crazy and it's 308 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 9: like ten seconds. 309 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 11: So I don't even know where I was this weekend, 310 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 11: but uh, you know, just as long as he's he's back. 311 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 9: The surgery went well. I talked to Marivi last night. 312 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 11: I didn't I haven't even spoken to him yet because 313 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 11: I give him a chance to clear his sense. People 314 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 11: were telling me he was posting on Instagram and stuff. 315 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 11: So I'm glad to see he's you know, back to 316 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 11: you know, at least talking that that's got to be 317 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 11: rough man. So did you I mean, yeah, did you see. 318 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 8: What he said in the posts on U the instagram 319 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 8: posted about this injury. So essentially when they fixed the 320 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 8: tibia or the fibula, but when they fixed one of 321 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 8: the bones and put the rod in, I think they 322 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 8: went in through the knee, but the other one aline 323 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 8: kind of like on its own, naturally like, So there's 324 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 8: a chance that if that one heals properly, you know, 325 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 8: that there could be some good news here, you know. 326 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 8: So uh yeah, so and they're trying to get him 327 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 8: up and everything else, and uh, it's just and he 328 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 8: you know, he's such a positive guy, Kenny that. I 329 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 8: don't know if you saw the video ray, but he 330 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 8: said also that when he was on the ground just 331 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 8: writhing in pain, he was trying to focus on how 332 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 8: he was going to turn it into a positive, whether 333 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 8: it was documenting his recovery or because when you look 334 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 8: down and your your leg is mangled like that, right, 335 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 8: I mean, it's like how what you're trying to deal 336 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 8: with the pain if you don't go and shock, you know. 337 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 11: Without doubt, I mean, that's a you know, that's a 338 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 11: brutal injury and look the coincidence. What coincidence because we 339 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 11: were talking today in the gym, is that you know, 340 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 11: it was the second Anderson fight and this was his 341 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 11: second fight with Hold, Like the universe is speaking. 342 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 9: Type of deal. But wow, what a crazy, crazy turn 343 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 9: of events. 344 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 11: I think that's the first thing Dan has said to 345 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 11: me when he came into the octagon. 346 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 9: It's like, what are the odds of that? 347 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 11: And then and then I say, Danny was really really 348 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 11: nice in the in the in the we'll get him 349 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 11: the best doctor. 350 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 9: Nice. But uh, just. 351 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 11: Man, it's just if even if it would have happened 352 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 11: in the second round, I would have been bad, but 353 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,479 Speaker 11: we would. 354 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 9: Have It's just there was the first thing thrown. 355 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 11: It was insane, strike crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, right you said. 356 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 8: That, uh in the back and I think you said 357 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 8: I called you on my drive back from Jacksonville. He 358 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 8: took my call. Can flow By the way, for the record, 359 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 8: I'm just trying to keep it light. That's why our 360 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 8: poll question today that Cody will get to try to 361 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 8: trying to. 362 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 9: Make Chris Joe. 363 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 6: Here's it like I did that. 364 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 8: When is in a hospital in Jacksonville and I was thinking, dares, Hey, 365 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 8: sorry your your connection today, I is not good. So 366 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 8: I started talking because you went completely silent. 367 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 6: I'm trying to save the show. 368 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 8: But no, but no, Chris is obviously in a hospital 369 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 8: and on morphine. And I thought if he maybe opened 370 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 8: the Twitter machine and saw it, it would make him 371 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 8: laugh for a second. That's why I did it. I 372 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 8: could have said, Hey, who do you all think is 373 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 8: gonna win? Dominic Reyis or Yuri pro Hoska. But I 374 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 8: asked people what your T shirt size was? But hey, 375 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 8: I don't want to get to that right now. 376 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 9: I'll tell you what. 377 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 11: He will laugh at that though, because it was. It's 378 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 11: a funny, pretty funny story. Thank you, Thank you, my wife. 379 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 11: I don't know they gave me. 380 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 9: The wrong size though, how's that? No? 381 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 8: I didn't know that they gave you the wrong size? 382 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 8: That there's a story here that I didn't even know existed. 383 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 6: I was just curious. 384 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 9: The x L was like a rash going on me. 385 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 9: I'm not like this, give me a so I just 386 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 9: play it safe. 387 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 11: I swear to God, John, I go give me a 388 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 11: triple X, all right, at least it's loose. 389 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 6: God I can't. 390 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 9: And then I thought, uh. 391 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 11: Then I tell I told I said, I want to 392 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 11: double X for the dressing room, and they gave me 393 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 11: a triplex? Again, what am I going to do at 394 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 11: that point? But dude, that excel forget about it. I 395 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 11: got used to the rebox stuff. It was not that 396 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 11: would have been a disaster thrust It's crazy. And then 397 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 11: I wore a tent that was that said they had 398 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 11: to go to home war the tent maker. 399 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 10: It was either a rash guard or a moomoo there 400 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 10: or dress There's no no one between, really, no one need. 401 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 6: I was gonna come out overall. 402 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 9: You know. It was even worse to sneak my. 403 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 6: Your sneakers. What's wrong with sneakers? 404 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 9: Oh? 405 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 6: I said? 406 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 9: The size was thirteen? Was crazy. 407 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 8: I was like Bozo to clown that night. That was 408 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 8: really horrible, Kenny. I didn't know the reason I'm having 409 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 8: a hospital. I didn't know I was opening up this 410 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 8: type of can I. I saw you once and I 411 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 8: thought to myself, suret either looked way too big or 412 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 8: way too small, So maybe this would be a good 413 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 8: poll question. Little did I know that there was all 414 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 8: of this, So what's. 415 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 6: The right answer? So what's the right answer? I'm sure 416 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 6: did you wear out on fight oh, don't pause on 417 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 6: me now, mother, Hey, hey, hey, hey, you paused, Bro, 418 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 6: you're frozen. 419 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 9: Maybe we'll get a better connection. 420 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe you we're gonna we may have to hang 421 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 8: up with Ray who is just frozen. Commentary incidentally, so 422 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 8: good this weekend that Cody said it was like he 423 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 8: was frozen in time. 424 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 11: I think, Friendfield, you noticed how much better his commentating 425 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 11: on these fights was. Now that he had a successful 426 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 11: night with the PFL. I think revived, he seems exciting. 427 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 6: Look at the sun. 428 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 9: He's a different booth. 429 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 6: Look that vitamin D through the hotel window. 430 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 8: Yeah no, Ray, Ray, you cut out when you we're 431 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 8: trying to tell the audience what what size T shirt 432 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 8: did you wear out to the octagon? 433 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 9: Was a triple X? 434 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 8: Oh my fucking god, it was triple X. I'm sorry 435 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 8: about the language. Thirty point four percent of our listeners 436 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 8: said triple X. I almost didn't put triple X as 437 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 8: a choice in the poll. My wife said large. I 438 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 8: think she has a secret crush on Ray Law. She 439 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 8: had to uh, she had a dance with Bruce Buffer 440 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 8: at Zach Candido's wedding, and she's I think she's still 441 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 8: upset with me about. 442 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 6: That she would love to dance with Ray Longo. Though. 443 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 9: Listen, anyway, the exo looked like a bib on me. 444 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 6: Well, then my guess has an athletic fit. 445 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 8: A twenty years old give me, Kenny. I truly had 446 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 8: no idea. 447 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 10: It was Listen, it was an omen for things to 448 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 10: come that those the fucking size thirteen shoes, the triple 449 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 10: X l's shirt. 450 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 6: You should have known. I can't cancel the fight trip. 451 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: It was. 452 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, the only thing those peakers didn't do. We were explode like, 453 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 11: you know, like a clown at a party. I didn't 454 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 11: have bolting shoes, but they were pretty close. 455 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 6: So on my jove, did they honk when you walked? 456 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 8: Yeah? 457 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. 458 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 8: So on my drive back from Jacksonville, you said Chris 459 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 8: was just and in the best of ways, but sort 460 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 8: of bad intention right the way he was warming up, 461 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 8: just the way he trained. He Kenny, He said, he 462 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 8: hasn't trained like this since the Machieta fight in twenty fourteen. 463 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 8: You know, the desperation training every day, but training smart 464 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 8: like this dude was ready to go make a run 465 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 8: and become a world champion. 466 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 10: I tell you what I saw it in Chris's eyes. 467 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 10: The same things that I saw in kamar Uzman. I 468 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 10: saw Chris that I hadn't seen in a very long time. 469 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 10: As soon as you walked out there, I was like, 470 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 10: this kid looks focused, he looks ready, he looked in shape. 471 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 10: And then that happened, and it was horrific to watch. 472 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 10: It was for it, especially knowing all those things that 473 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 10: Ray was telling us. He was injury free, he was 474 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 10: training well, he was focused terrible. 475 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 11: I was so excited to see how it was going 476 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 11: to translate in the fight. 477 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 9: I really was. 478 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 11: And then I was like, man, I was just wacky 479 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 11: as shit I ever saw, really really crazy for that 480 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 11: time and for the whole situation, but. 481 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 9: Crazy. 482 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 8: So E'reiah hall Kenny, he didn't check the kick correct, 483 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 8: I mean to me, it looked like he did. 484 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 6: He did, okay, because he opened up his knee just 485 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 6: a little bit now even just a yeah, maybe a 486 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 6: little bit. 487 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 11: But again, like again that knee, when the knee is 488 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 11: kind of flexed, it is you might as well kick 489 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 11: like a pole. 490 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 6: That's right, especially at the point where it means right. 491 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 11: On the thigh or down by the camp. That's a tote. 492 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 11: Not that's not happening. But he just hinted into perfect spot. 493 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 11: That's what happened. That's what happened with Anderson too. He 494 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 11: knows exactly. It's not I don't think it's the best 495 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 11: thing for your knee, but you know, like again, I 496 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 11: did that to somebody like ten to fifteen years ago, 497 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 11: which jing gods on, which was crazy. But when the 498 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 11: knee is in a flexed position, it can withstand. 499 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 9: A lot of pain, man a lot. 500 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 11: And it didn't look on that side like that's what happened, 501 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 11: But that's what happened. 502 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 8: So I'm going to try to be as efficient as 503 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 8: humanly possible with these forty or so minutes that we 504 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 8: have remaining with Ray. So I want to get both 505 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 8: of your thoughts on this. Right, we talk about calf 506 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 8: kicks and low kicks in modern day mixed martial arts. 507 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 6: It's a tremendous trend in our sport. 508 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 8: There are a lot of people out there that are 509 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 8: just you know, Kenfell had some sort of funny tweets like, hey, 510 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 8: all right, everybody huddle around now, all right, no more 511 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 8: kicks like the leave of the leg, okay, right, because 512 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 8: a lot. 513 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 6: Of bad shit's happening, okay. Jim Miller I told this 514 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 6: story probably on these airwaves. Okay. 515 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 8: Jim Miller told us I believe in a fighter meeting 516 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 8: that he started working on the low leg. 517 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 6: Kicks for the Nakedaz fight. Right. 518 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 8: I believe he used them in the Joe los On 519 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 8: fight and he felt that in his shin in a 520 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 8: negative way for three years. 521 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 6: Right. 522 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 8: So when you are throwing these, we talk so much 523 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 8: about defending these kenny, right, and wearing shin pads in practice, 524 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 8: and know, you know, how do you defend them? Are 525 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 8: you tough genetically? I mean are you Are you built 526 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 8: well genetically? 527 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 6: Can you take the kick? Right? 528 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 8: But in terms of these low calf kicks, right, what 529 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 8: are your thoughts on this one in particular and how 530 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 8: it sort of relates to all of that? 531 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 10: You know, Yeah, there's no doubt about it that if 532 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 10: you are a leg kicker, that you are also taking 533 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 10: damage yourself. Okay, Just because you see one guy kind 534 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 10: of limping the other guy's kicking and he looks to 535 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 10: be okay, doesn't mean that he's not feeling it. Every 536 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 10: leg kick that every muy Thai guy has thrown also 537 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 10: hurts them to a certain extent, especially over time. And 538 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 10: you're doing it for years, so you know that whole 539 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 10: idea that you know, you know, some thaie guy has 540 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 10: like these invincible shins, they're feeling it. They're feeling probably 541 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 10: every single one of them. So you know, it's brutal 542 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 10: on everyone's body. Right, This one in particular, was just it. 543 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 10: Like Ray said, it happened to hit at the worst 544 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 10: spot possible on your eye hauls like it's like the 545 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 10: very top of the shin, bottom of the knee, which 546 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 10: is the hardest part. Like if you want to block, 547 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 10: that's exactly where you do it, right. And Chris is 548 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 10: hitting with the lower part of the lever of his leg, 549 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 10: which is the most vulnerable part, and he's swinging that 550 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 10: thing at a considerable amount of speed without it right. 551 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 10: So it's like if you saw me, like, hey, John, 552 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 10: watch this, I'm gonna kick this fire hydrant right now, 553 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 10: the same thing would happen to my leg. 554 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 11: That's kind of what it's like. And I'll tell you know, 555 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 11: you go back to even the ties. You don't see 556 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 11: a lot of leg kicks when it's tie against tie 557 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 11: because they will check them and it hurts everybody, like 558 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 11: you say, but it's funny. You put like an American 559 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 11: or another kickboxer in there. You'll see those kicks. 560 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 9: All day long. 561 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 11: They just bury it right like, because they're not afraid 562 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 11: of anything, you know what I mean, And they will 563 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 11: pick the leg, but it's still different. 564 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 9: Then it's not they're not getting. 565 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 6: Away because they don't know how to block, and becomes. 566 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 9: A mancho thing too. 567 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 11: Let me see how my shit against your your shit, 568 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 11: and I try. You know, you got to catch it 569 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 11: up on the highest part, close to the knee against 570 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 11: his weakest part. 571 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 9: It's you know, if you could place it. 572 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 11: There's accuracy involved in a lot of other things, but 573 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 11: you know, like Kenny said, nobody gets away for free. 574 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 9: I've seen after like everybody. 575 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 8: Else, right, there's some you know, nerve numbing or whatever 576 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 8: and things like that. But yeah, I just wonder if 577 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 8: it gives spiders offensively pause knowing that you catch one 578 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 8: of these wrong. You know, you don't necessarily God willing 579 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 8: break your leg. But you know, Jim Miller felt it 580 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 8: for three years, and that certainly gave him pause. 581 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 6: I think at times he's. 582 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 8: Like, the reason he didn't see me throwing leg kicks 583 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 8: in the next three fights is because you know, I 584 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 8: injured it in a fight prior offensively not taking one 585 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 8: the other way. So well, we look forward to uh 586 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 8: to Chris is documenting this. I think that's what he's 587 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 8: going to lean into. It's just sad in terms of 588 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 8: the career trajectory. But Ray, I think, uh, you seem 589 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 8: pretty bullish on the fact that you know, and especially 590 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 8: here in what I said about the surgery, like you 591 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 8: seem to think that he'll he'll. 592 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 6: Be able to fight again. Like what what do you think? 593 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 8: I know, you haven't talked to the guy, but like, 594 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 8: I absolutely think he's got one New York walk left 595 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 8: in him at least after this. You know, I just 596 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 8: think he's going to be motivated to do that. 597 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 6: I really do. 598 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, no's he's I'm going to say, I haven't talked 599 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 11: to him. He's one hundred percent fighting again. If I 600 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 11: know him, he's going to want to fight again. He's 601 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 11: not gonna want. 602 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 9: To go out like that. 603 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 11: And I think the fact that even Anderson fort after 604 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 11: his leg break is going to be more inspiration. 605 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 9: For him to go I'm going back in there too. 606 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 9: I don't think he'd go out like that. 607 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 11: And the good thing is, you know, I mean why 608 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 11: I've ben look, his wrestling is his strong point. He's 609 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 11: got great hands when he wants to use him, and 610 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 11: he could, he could, he could devise a whole another 611 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 11: game around the attributes he has, whereas really was a 612 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 11: great pickboxer, and if you take away one of those weapons, 613 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 11: it's it's worse to him. Like you know, Chris wasn't 614 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 11: the biggest kicker, even though he kicks like a mule. 615 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 11: Uh you know, we've never seen him do that. But 616 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 11: when I first started training Chris, and uh, you know, 617 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 11: he left a lot of guys laying in the on 618 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 11: the flooridacta gon with just leg kicks, And I'm really 619 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 11: glad just that. You know, if you heard Anthony Smith 620 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 11: talk about when he went down to Carolina and trained 621 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 11: with him, he said, I don't know how this guy 622 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 11: even has a fucking loss. And what he's saying is true. 623 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 11: This is he's very well trained. And that's why I 624 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 11: say when he started losing was more confusing to me 625 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 11: because I know the capabilities of this guy. 626 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 9: I was. 627 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 11: I was happy to hear Anthony Smith be and that's 628 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 11: a realistic you know, he's a great guy. I mean 629 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 11: they are friends, but he's telling it like it is. 630 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 11: I wasn't there, but I know the way the guy 631 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 11: is when. 632 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 9: He's on he's he is a motherfucker. 633 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 8: Like you know, Rogan said, I've never heard you and 634 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 8: Matt Sarah talk about an athlete the way you guys 635 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 8: talk about Wyman, and you both talk about it the 636 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 8: same way. And this was not the first time that 637 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 8: Anthony Smith had brought up Chris Wiman. He talked about 638 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 8: it with The SHMO in an interview earlier. He said, 639 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 8: I trained with the guy for two weeks, like I 640 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 8: barely got anything done in any realm of martial arts, 641 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 8: like best guy I've ever trained with by far. And yes, 642 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 8: to your point, I don't know how he ever lost, 643 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 8: But you know, I got to spend great time with 644 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 8: you guys this week, and Chris just looked so goddamn good, 645 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 8: and so did your Iyah Hall. And Uriah Hall has 646 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 8: won four in a row, and that's a whole different conversation, 647 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 8: and I hope we can have that for five minutes later. 648 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 8: But yeah, Chris just seemed really ready to sort of 649 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 8: resume his assent. And that's why I think this hits, 650 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 8: you know, even deeper for you. 651 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, No, it's just I really, I really was dying 652 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 11: to see what was going to happen, because I knew 653 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 11: where his head was at. I know him good enough 654 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 11: to know that something was different. He was just in 655 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 11: a good spot. You know. At one point I said 656 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 11: some to him, he goes to you, you know, you're 657 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 11: just trying to make me feel you know, like we 658 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 11: got that kind of relationship. But I was like, I'm 659 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 11: telling you, this is you know, I've been with you 660 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 11: a long time. I know when you're feeling good, and 661 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 11: there's times like when I walk in there and I'm 662 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 11: definitely a little nervous, and there's times when I'm not 663 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 11: nervous at all. And I was not remotely nervous. Am 664 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 11: I say nervous, I mean to an extent where you know, 665 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 11: I'm like, I hope this goes it. 666 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 9: I was. 667 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 11: I really was excited. I really wasn't to have it, 668 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 11: and I think I was in like a state of 669 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 11: shock when it happened. 670 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 9: And even when Dana was talking to me, I think 671 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 9: I zoned out. 672 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 11: Yeah, just you know, I just hope, you know, I know, 673 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,719 Speaker 11: I'm glad he's all right, And that's really the bottom 674 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 11: line for me. 675 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 8: Cody texted me Anderson silver fought seven times after the 676 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 8: wimen leg break. That was December of twenty thirteen. I 677 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 8: wonder how old Anderson Silva was probably about the same 678 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 8: age when it did happen, so as ken Flow knows 679 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 8: and Ray now knows. Nineteen eighty two, Dateline, Wellesley, Massachusetts. 680 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 8: I broke my fmur spiral fracture back then. No medical 681 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 8: treatment like they have today. Right, so I'm shitting in 682 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 8: a bedpan for eight weeks in traction at the boss 683 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 8: and lying in hospital or whatever. 684 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 9: Right. 685 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 8: But I went into shock right when my leg broke. 686 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 8: So I remember my mom and my grandmother. I love 687 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 8: you guys, but idiot sticks taking me to the pediatrician's office. 688 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 8: Can you take me to the hospital please? I have 689 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 8: a spiral fraction of my femur. Right, So they finally 690 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 8: get me to the hospital. But I remember them taking 691 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 8: me to the pediatrician first. I remember them cutting my 692 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 8: overalls with scissors. I'm five years old, by the way, 693 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 8: cutting my overalls with the cold scissors. Right, But it 694 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 8: didn't seem like Chris went into shock. It seemed like 695 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 8: he was. He was writhing in pain. Like Ray, what 696 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 8: are you thinking in the moment you said you'd like 697 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 8: you just said, it made me think of that story 698 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 8: because you said I just went into shock, like well, 699 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 8: it was very shocking. But I don't think Chris went 700 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 8: into shock. I think he was writhing in pain. 701 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 6: No. 702 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 11: I mean, look, they weren't letting me in the octagon. 703 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 11: I was just trying to glance over and make sure 704 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 11: you know he was all right. 705 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 8: But uh, did they let any of you in the octagon. 706 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 8: They didn't let wonder point No, No. 707 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 10: And Ray saw you. You saw the whole thing. Did 708 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 10: you see it happen in real time? 709 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 11: I'm gonna say, if you go back to the audio, 710 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 11: I said, great kick and then his foot hit the 711 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 11: floor and I go, right, was at his knee and 712 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 11: then then they put it up and I go, holy crap. 713 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 6: You know, it was like you can't always see everything 714 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 6: in the gun. You know the angle where you're at. 715 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 11: You see your kick, and you you know, it was 716 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 11: the thing with Anderson, like you know, obviously you know 717 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 11: all the morons on on social media go berserk, but 718 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 11: we had no idea what happened to Anderson that time. 719 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 11: Cordy just you know, got his leg checked and you 720 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 11: know whatever. I mean that was it, you know, something 721 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 11: else happened. Then you look in the screen and you go, 722 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 11: holy crap. It's one of those things that's very hard 723 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 11: to look at for anybody. 724 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't seek out the old video. 725 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 10: Go ahead, Kenny, I was gonna say for for me, guys, 726 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 10: you know, I I believe that you know, just the 727 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 10: way that Chris is built, and you know how he is. 728 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 6: I think physically he's going to be fine. 729 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 10: What concerns me is, you know, and we saw with 730 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 10: Anderson Silva, you know, even Jose Aldo for whatever happened 731 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 10: to his foot or whatever, we we didn't see him 732 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 10: kick as much, you. 733 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 6: Know in his career. 734 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 10: You know, for me, I think Anderson kind of stopped 735 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 10: kicking a little bit. I wonder when I'm concerned about 736 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 10: is how this affects Chris mentally for his next fight 737 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 10: should that happen? Is like, is he going to be 738 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 10: second guessing that kick where you know, is he going 739 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 10: to use that in the same way? And you obviously 740 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 10: know Chris better than anybody, how do you think he's 741 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 10: going to come back from this mentally? 742 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 11: Look, I think it's going to be a challenge, But 743 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 11: I don't think he even has to kick like that, 744 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 11: you know, and he's got great front kicks also that 745 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 11: he could use. You know that the solo PLEXI stabs 746 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 11: you really nice. 747 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 6: Yes he does. 748 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 11: He's got great hands and if he blends his hands 749 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 11: in with his wrestling it look on a weird way. 750 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 11: He could make him better, you know, less things to 751 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 11: think about and really isolate what you do, because he 752 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 11: should really like that fight was going to hit the 753 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 11: ground one point or another. There's nothing, there was nothing 754 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 11: anybody could do. I don't think anybody's ever stopped him 755 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 11: completely from taking him down. And if anything, he focused 756 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 11: on this camp and again I was only there for 757 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 11: a short period of time. 758 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 9: Was his wrestling. You know. 759 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 11: We had a couple of big guys that he was 760 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 11: wrestling with, and I think that got him back to 761 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 11: you know, back to you know, that type of cardio, 762 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 11: which is what he needs in his fights, is to 763 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 11: be able to do what he likes to do over 764 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 11: and over and over again. And I'm sure you could 765 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 11: talk to those wrestlers. For a guy that's thirty six, 766 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 11: going to be thirty seven, he's still hanging with tough guys. Man, 767 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 11: is is I've never seen anybody I've never seen anybody 768 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 11: piss on him in wrestling, and if they had a 769 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 11: good day, they have ten bad days in a row 770 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 11: after that. He makes that adjustment quick. His wrestling is 771 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 11: is off hook. I'm telling you he might have got 772 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 11: bored with everything at one point. Who knows, you know, 773 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 11: because it's something that like, again, I've never seen anybody 774 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 11: give him a problem. 775 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 6: He's a total phenom. 776 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 8: I mean, if you harken back to some of the 777 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 8: early wins that he had right Maya and why he 778 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 8: is a total phenom. 779 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just gonnay. 780 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 8: I didn't seek out the old video Anders and Silva, 781 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 8: but this one seemed more violent and uh and worse. 782 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 8: And you're right, Kenny, you know I'm watching the monitor 783 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 8: right because you have to. That's that's going to give 784 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 8: you the best angle. That's the angle they're getting back 785 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 8: at home. But you're right, it stands to reason that 786 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 8: Ray could have missed it. But again, we're thinking about 787 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 8: Chris a lot. And uh, yeah, you know, they'll they'll move, 788 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 8: they'll move back to South or they'll drive back to 789 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 8: South Carolina. I guess on Wednesday at least he said 790 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 8: he drove right like five hours or so ray, he 791 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 8: drove from South Carolina to Jacksonville, so he'll just drive home. 792 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 8: I guess they'll drive him home, right, and not fly. 793 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 6: Presumably I thought. 794 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 9: He flew, but I know is what his wife drove down. 795 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 8: But what he did all right, I thought, uh, I 796 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 8: thought he told me to my fat face that he drove. 797 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 6: But I've been wrong before. 798 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 11: Oh man, you know this school is crazy, right, even 799 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 11: even with uh, you know mazd Deel, who I really 800 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 11: you know, like, is a fight. I mean, you stick 801 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 11: around long enough, man, sh It's gonna happen. It's just 802 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 11: the way it is. It's the way that works. And again, 803 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 11: first time he's been knocked out in fifty fights, which 804 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 11: was surprising. But I mean, just well, the credit to 805 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 11: usman man for pulling that off. I don't think they 806 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 11: could have been a more satisfying way for him to 807 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 11: win that fight. But like again, man, this this is 808 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 11: a you know, it's not for the we caught it, 809 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 11: you know what I mean. 810 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 9: You have to be mentally squaid away. 811 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 11: You're gonna get you're gonna get swept out with the 812 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 11: current eventually, and you're not coming back. 813 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 9: All right. 814 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 8: I want to get to some other UFC two sixty 815 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 8: one things and in Jack sort of Kolby Covington into 816 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 8: the conversation and Ray certainly want your thoughts big picture 817 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 8: on Kamara Usman. But Kenny Kamara Usman and Kobe Covington 818 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 8: fought at UFC two to forty five. I would agree 819 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 8: with Dan, it's one of the greatest fights I've ever seen. 820 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 8: You go back and watch Kobe land at a ton 821 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 8: of huge shots. You know, people thought maybe I over exaggerated, 822 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 8: over exaggerated some of those shots on the broadcast, but dude, 823 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 8: he was landing bombs. 824 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 6: What do you think about Usman Covington too? 825 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 8: Ken flow as the next fight for for Kamorrow as 826 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 8: he goes for nineteen in a. 827 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 10: Row, Listen, I would have liked to see him fight 828 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 10: wonder Boy myself, just because it's a different fight. And 829 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 10: I also think it'd be really intriguing seeing the best 830 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 10: fighter in the division take on the best grappler in 831 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 10: the division, best wrestling division. 832 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 6: But there's no. 833 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 10: Question you can't deny what happened in that first fight 834 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 10: and what the second fight will most likely produce. 835 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 6: I think these guys do not like each other. 836 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 10: I'm not sure there's anyone who likes Golobi Govington, if 837 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 10: you're gonna fight him, no, But you know what I mean, 838 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 10: right exactly. 839 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 6: He has a way of. 840 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 10: Bringing out, you know, the anger in his opposition, and 841 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 10: he knows how to build a fight, whether you like 842 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 10: it or you hate it. Uh, And I think that 843 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 10: we would see a lot of that animosity. 844 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 6: Again. 845 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 10: I think these guys are both improving as fighters, both 846 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 10: kind of in the prime of their career, and I 847 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 10: think they would deliver another fantastic fight. 848 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 6: Right what you make of the Nigerian Nightmare? Nah? 849 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 9: I mean, come on, he's uh. 850 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 11: Look, the first thing I'm gonna make out of it 851 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 11: is exactly what he said. And I mean, first of 852 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 11: and hats off to Trevor Whitman, this guy's on fire. 853 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 11: He's got some crew of people over there now, fighters 854 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 11: that are crazy. 855 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 9: But but he said, stick to the basics. I love that, man. 856 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 9: The basics are where it's at period. That's it. 857 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 11: You know, we get caught up and jumping around, switching leads, 858 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 11: running all over the place. 859 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 9: But when you got a great. 860 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 11: Foundation with the basics, you are hard to beat with anything. 861 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 9: And that to me is the takeaway. 862 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 11: And I've been trying to do that with some of 863 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 11: the up and coming guys now, because you know, as 864 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 11: you're with guys for a long time, you want to 865 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 11: switch it up a little bit, or you know, you 866 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 11: have an injury, so you go south for you maybe 867 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 11: do something different. But I love what he said, and 868 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 11: I know Trevor's like that. You could see even his personality, 869 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 11: he's just you know, he's a humble guy. He's doing 870 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 11: a great job with these guys, but the basics, basics, basics. 871 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 9: You can't get enough of them. 872 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 11: And when they're downright, man, you're really really hard to beat. 873 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 11: As far as the rematch with Covington, Listen was a 874 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 11: great fight, I agree with you. The big difference to 875 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 11: me is that Busman now has fought some really he's growing, 876 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 11: he's still getting better, yeah you know what I mean, 877 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 11: And he's fought great people, you know, thinking the people 878 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 11: he's what. 879 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 9: Covington's been a little quieter, you know what I mean. 880 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 11: So hopefully he's gotten some the right working. But he's 881 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 11: going to see a totally different Usman in that fight. 882 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 11: Covington is tough though, and I like that first fight 883 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 11: was close, so I think it's gonna make for a 884 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 11: great rematch. 885 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 9: But I think the difference to me is. 886 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 11: What would usman has done and now he's in it, 887 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 11: and now he's in a different spot too with you know, 888 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 11: Trevor and Henry, and I was great to hear him 889 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 11: say that. 890 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 9: Henry texts him. 891 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 11: I know they have a great relationship, so he's surrounded 892 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 11: by great people and it shows, man, they just I 893 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 11: just I love what he said about the basics. 894 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 9: I don't think you could argue with that. If anybody does, 895 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 9: I think you're a complete idiot. And it paid. 896 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 11: Off, and it should pay off because you got to 897 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 11: pay attention to small details. Groin did I guys saying 898 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 11: you don't even want to hit the heavy big like, 899 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 11: you know, like you should be getting work in every 900 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 11: day and what everything wrestling. 901 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 9: It doesn't have to be a berserka, you know, workout it. 902 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 11: But every day you got to have that down and 903 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 11: you could get it and it's really attainable, man. And 904 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 11: I think the guys that put the work in could 905 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 11: make a make a nice little splitsch, whether they become 906 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 11: a champion or not. 907 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 8: Presumably Stephen wonder Boy Thompson was told that Kolby Covington 908 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 8: was going to get the next championship opportunity. 909 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 6: As such, he took that Gilbert Burns fight right. 910 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 8: Otherwise you probably wait, let this one marinate and if 911 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 8: it goes quickly as it did, maybe a slide in there. 912 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 8: But wonder boy has a fight on the books, all right, 913 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 8: Kenny Thug Rose nama Unis. I mean you talk about 914 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,720 Speaker 8: having a pension for coming up big with big things 915 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 8: and strikes and big moments. You know, when people would 916 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 8: ask me, like, what's the biggest moment that you've seen? Singularly, 917 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 8: it was Rose nama Unis knocking out Yo Wanna you 918 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 8: and j Check and she ends a twenty one fight 919 00:40:58,480 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 8: winning streak of jeonggwe l. 920 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 6: What do you have for me? 921 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 8: On on the New Now two times strahaweight champ Thug 922 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 8: Rose nam Unis, to. 923 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 10: Me, this was a demonstration of a martial artist defeating 924 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 10: an athlete, right because you had Hongwai Lee, a tremendous athlete, 925 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 10: very powerful, very fast. Rose noam Uni is tall, lanky, 926 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 10: doesn't look like fighter. She's this petite, you know, a 927 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 10: good looking kind of skinny girl, and she has this 928 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 10: martial arts repertoire that will absolutely decimate you if you 929 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 10: are not prepared. 930 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 6: She's intelligent. She's always training. 931 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 10: You may not see her as often as everybody else, 932 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 10: she's training and getting better all the time. 933 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 3: Man. 934 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 6: And you saw it. You saw it on the on 935 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 6: the first time you saw in the Ultimate Fight hitting 936 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 6: flying arm bars. 937 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 10: You're like, who is this girl? Like what is going on? 938 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 10: She's amazing. You saw the potential and now you're seeing it. 939 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 10: You're seeing her fulfilled and realize that potential. And it's 940 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 10: amazing to see. And you know, Joe Rogan said he 941 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 10: got emotional. I got emotional watching that. Well, to see 942 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 10: her and you know, there was a lot of pressure 943 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 10: on her, and you know she was the Chapel four 944 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 10: for her to come back, and you know, with everything 945 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 10: that she's dealt with in her life and to see 946 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 10: where she's at spiritually at this point in her life 947 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 10: and to see her get that belt. 948 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 6: Back was just an amazing thing. 949 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 10: And you know, our job is to not be biased 950 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 10: and not take sides and all that stuff, but how 951 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 10: do you not feel good about someone like a rose 952 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 10: down unis. 953 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 6: I was really moved by it. It was awesome to 954 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 6: see she's a special person and a special fighter. 955 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I did oh everything he said. But 956 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 11: what an absolute sweetheart. Her and Pat Barry just got 957 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 11: some time. We was, you know, on the same bus 958 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 11: and standing there. But just what an absolute sweetheart. I 959 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 11: love everything about her. I love to count down when 960 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 11: she's doing sin A Wanley. She's got the sticks. I 961 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 11: was glad that she put you know, I saw Craig 962 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 11: knows him back in the corner. Yeah, he's a GCNDO guy, 963 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 11: and you can I just the fact that she's. 964 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 9: Willing to do every martial art there is. I love it. 965 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 9: What could you not love about this kid? 966 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, so she's so nice. 967 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 11: I mean, it's it's it's incredible, and you know, help 968 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 11: playing the piano was was was great. So she's not 969 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 11: one dimensional. She's a person and I love the way 970 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 11: she spoke and she wants to do things. I think 971 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 11: it was for the environment or whatever it is, but 972 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 11: it's always going to be a good cause. 973 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 6: There's a This is. 974 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 9: A really really sweet person who's fucking incredible. 975 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 6: As my gosh, I got both of you guys swearing today. 976 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 11: I love it, but I don't but you know, she 977 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 11: like again, look at the footwork, the way she controlled 978 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 11: the range, at that fight for as long as it went. 979 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 9: But she does it with everybody. 980 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 6: Uh. 981 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 11: You know, I was in the dressing room with h 982 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 11: Wiley and uh and I had just left like Rose 983 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 11: like maybe the day before. She's big, man, I knew 984 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 11: that was going to be a problem. Like she's not 985 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 11: the easiest to get near. I think why probably had 986 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 11: a strength advantage, but man, it was never going to 987 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 11: come into play this kid. 988 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, yep, yeah, beautiful. The timing on that kick was beautiful. 989 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 9: And she's just a beautiful person. Little I've gotten to know. 990 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 11: I don't can't say I know her really well, but uh, 991 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 11: I've never had a bad interaction with her or Pap barrt. 992 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 11: It just sweet people like I love to see it 993 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 11: more than anything. I don't talk about the fighting, you 994 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 11: know what I mean. You know, to me, I made 995 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 11: so many new friends on this trip, and there's so 996 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 11: many nice people in this community that it's crazy. 997 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 9: But you had to be happy for her. 998 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 11: You had to be, you know, because you're not going 999 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 11: to see her acting like an idiot on Instagram. 1000 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 9: You just you're not going to see that. Man. She's 1001 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 9: a She's a sweet person. I love what she stands for. Again. 1002 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 11: I love the fact that she's a martial artist and 1003 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 11: you know, she's you know, like again even a fact 1004 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 11: with Craig Nelson still being there. 1005 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,479 Speaker 9: It was great to see. 1006 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 11: It really was, because you know, I love martial arts 1007 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,320 Speaker 11: more than I like, you know, I mean, there is 1008 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 11: a love. 1009 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 6: I love that. 1010 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 9: That's what I see her as and I think she 1011 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 9: represents that. 1012 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 11: And to me, man, I'll back her any day of 1013 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 11: the week with anything she wants to do. 1014 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 9: I think she's a sweetheart. 1015 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 8: And so are you, because you're actively making new friends 1016 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 8: in your early sixties. I was just saying to somebody 1017 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 8: the other day, like, I'm not looking for new friends. 1018 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 8: You know, I'm not looking for any new friends. Sorry, 1019 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 8: that's the best part. 1020 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 6: You're cutting out. God damn it, Ray what you're cutting out? 1021 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:30,959 Speaker 8: Man? 1022 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 6: Like you got me hanging on your every fucking word hanging. 1023 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 9: That's the best part of the story. 1024 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 11: So while I was I had the pleasure of meeting 1025 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 11: Sam Greco Kenny, who was Yes, he's still the guy. 1026 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 9: He's a beast I'm standing next to. I'm like, how 1027 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 9: fucking big is this guy? I don't even know? But 1028 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 9: what a sweethearty he is. 1029 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 11: And I guess we started talking about you know, it 1030 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 11: was like Pat Barry, me Wideman, him and Jimmy Crud 1031 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 11: who is one of my favorite people. We got to 1032 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 11: get to that, man, because these these are Australians. Man, 1033 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 11: will I tell you they are. I don't think I've 1034 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 11: met better people. I mean, I love these guys, this 1035 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:10,479 Speaker 11: whole team. 1036 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 9: But uh, we will. 1037 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 6: Get to Jimmy Cruk. We will get to Jimmy cru. 1038 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 11: Can ask me how old I was and I said, 1039 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 11: I'm going to be sixty three in a couple of weeks. 1040 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 9: And Rose turned around. 1041 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 11: She goes, no way, that's impossible. I go, no, no, Rose, 1042 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 11: Unfortunately it's true. And did you ever see me get 1043 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 11: out of it? Because ah, to see him standing here talking, 1044 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 11: that's not a good representation of anything. But hor even 1045 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 11: saying that, Horry, even even staying that to me, I'm 1046 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 11: swearing by this kid. 1047 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 9: She's my favorite person. 1048 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 6: I love it well. 1049 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 8: And before I said early sixties, I thought to myself, man, 1050 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 8: this guy is he really didn't look it. You know, 1051 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 8: I almost said late fifties. Hey Kenny, real quick, because 1052 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 8: I know you love the martial arts stuff. It's just 1053 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 8: sort of a couple of real things out just on Rose, 1054 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 8: just my notes. You know, Pat Barry texted me after. 1055 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 6: The fight that she just executed perfectly. 1056 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 8: I mean, obviously, you know there's certain things and a 1057 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 8: lot of these elite athletes are just waiting for one 1058 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 8: mistake and if it doesn't materialize, they fuck you up 1059 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 8: for twenty five minutes, and if it does, something super 1060 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 8: violent can happen. Greg Nelson, she brought him back three 1061 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 8: training camps ago just because she felt like the details 1062 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 8: were maybe getting away from her. 1063 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 6: You know, I mean, he's brought so much to your point. 1064 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 8: Chico camis just super athlete that's totally devoted to her 1065 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 8: right that gets her into her flow. It's completely catered 1066 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 8: to her. And then of course Trevor effing Witness. 1067 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 11: So I mean, you can't say anything. I mean, I 1068 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 11: don't know this guy's he's living large now. Man, he's 1069 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 11: back in it, and he's got great guys. Oose one's 1070 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 11: got to be a huge addition to that camp. 1071 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 9: And you know, I'll. 1072 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 8: Start with you on Chong Wai Lee and then get 1073 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 8: to Kenny again. I'm trying to get to all these 1074 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 8: athletes because I don't want to keep you here forever. 1075 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 8: You know Joangwae Lee, you know, linear a little bit 1076 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 8: as a striker. 1077 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 6: She got tuned up by Johanna. 1078 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 10: Again. 1079 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 6: I've watched that fight three times. 1080 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 8: I had Yo Wanna winning all three times, and I 1081 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 8: think Jong Wi Lee is going to beat a lot 1082 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 8: of people as she did to earn her championship opportunity, 1083 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 8: but they definitely have some work to do. 1084 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 6: What were your thoughts on jiangwe Leah? As sure as 1085 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 6: the fight was. 1086 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 11: Now listen, I think you know you know she's coming 1087 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 11: to fight, right, But I think I think you hit 1088 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 11: on a pretty good point. She's pretty linear. I do 1089 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 11: believe she's she's strong for her size, But when you 1090 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 11: have a person that can execute like Rose, that's never 1091 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 11: going to be a good fight for it just never 1092 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 11: will because Rose. I believe the only way that becomes 1093 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 11: a problem is if Rose can't do that for five rounds, 1094 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 11: she starts to gas out. But when she's up on 1095 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 11: a toes moving like that, she's I believe she'll be 1096 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 11: to nine out of ten times. 1097 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 8: Ken flow your thoughts on Jiangwei Lee, your appetite for 1098 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 8: a rematch? I mean, certainly there are a lot of 1099 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 8: people at one hundred and fifteen pounds. There's the Carlas 1100 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 8: Sparza Yan Chao Nan fight which is happening at UFC 1101 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 8: two sixty two. 1102 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 6: Asparsa has a lot. 1103 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 8: Of momentum, has a head to head win over rosanami 1104 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 8: Unis that was the inaugural UFC straightaway title fight in 1105 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 8: twenty fourteen. Yan Chao Nan is a really good fighter. 1106 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 8: Yowana is lurking, but has two head to head losses 1107 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 8: against Rose. Your thoughts on John Willey moving forward and divisionally? 1108 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 8: Where do these stay? 1109 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,760 Speaker 10: You know, people forget, people forget that Joangwai Lee hasn't 1110 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 10: been in this game that long. 1111 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 6: Really, you know, she won what she made her UFC debut, 1112 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 6: and then a year. 1113 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 10: Later she was champion, you know, so right, So I 1114 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 10: mean she hasn't been the game that long. She still 1115 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 10: has a lot to learn. That is both good and unfortunate. 1116 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 10: But I think that's what was exposed here against Rose. 1117 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 10: Roses footwork I think was really the difference. She didn't 1118 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 10: know when and where to enter against Rose noam Munis 1119 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 10: with that those circular half circles that she was making there. 1120 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 6: But you know, I do think that Joangway Lee is 1121 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 6: going to get better from this. She's gonna learn from this. 1122 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 10: I think it was a tough stylistic matchup for and 1123 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 10: she will be sharper. She's a tremendous athlete. She also 1124 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 10: really surrounds herself with the you know, great people. I 1125 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 10: also think she is a true martial artist as well. 1126 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 10: She has the mentality and she we'll be back strong for. 1127 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 6: This same way. 1128 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 10: You know, rose Enamiunis said they rarely is success a 1129 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 10: straight line up. You know, all of these fighters, you 1130 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 10: know kamar Uzman's side, have experience ups and downs, and 1131 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 10: from these downs, the key is to be aware, to 1132 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,280 Speaker 10: be present, to figure out what the hell you did wrong, 1133 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 10: and then you learn more from those experiences than any 1134 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 10: of your wins. 1135 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,760 Speaker 6: And I think we'll see that with shan way Lee. 1136 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, and I agree to. 1137 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 11: And I love her also because I tell you, I 1138 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 11: love watching when she's doing tai chi and I mean, 1139 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 11: it's it's it's great they had to do with some 1140 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 11: other strike look like singing to me, I don't know 1141 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,800 Speaker 11: what I was looking at, but she's uh, she's embracing 1142 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 11: the martial arts too. So I think, you know, they 1143 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 11: seem like nice people in the dressing room and you know, 1144 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 11: I wish shut a best of luck too. I mean, 1145 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 11: it's just I think this fight was just a I wrote. 1146 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 11: She's just too good at that range, man. She really does. 1147 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,800 Speaker 11: She puts the combinations, she's in and out. She's hard 1148 00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 11: to hit, she's quick, she's powerful. Uh, she's out of 1149 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 11: just a. 1150 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 9: Well rounded game. 1151 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 11: And again I'm going back to basics. It's not really 1152 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 11: nothing crazy, man. It's that you know, shuffle footwork in 1153 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 11: and bouncing on the dolls. It's just beautiful to watch. 1154 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 9: To me, it is. 1155 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 6: What would you what were the odds for that one? John? 1156 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 6: I was just gonna say. 1157 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 8: Ken Flow wakes up his daughter True on Sunday morning 1158 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 8: and says, truly, we just bought a bunch of bitcoin, honey, 1159 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 8: because Rosenami units cashed at plus one sixty. 1160 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 6: I mean, I know you picked her on the show. 1161 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 10: She wasn't she was plus okay, plus one sixty. I 1162 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 10: wasn't sure if it was one at that point or not. 1163 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 10: But it's amazing when she was able to accomplish there. 1164 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, so my notes say pfl at six fifty, 1165 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 8: we have to talk about ken Fall on the broadcast 1166 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 8: at six forty one, which means we have nine minutes 1167 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 8: to talk about Valentina, Shipchanko, Jimmy Crude and anything else. 1168 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 8: How about this crowd though, When the first athletes of 1169 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 8: the night walk out, right, do you think Bruce Buffer 1170 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 8: went into the octagon? 1171 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:55,919 Speaker 6: He did? 1172 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 8: He and he said to me after the fact, when 1173 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 8: we shared a glass of white wine as we often do, 1174 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 8: don't judge us in his hook your arms. 1175 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 9: Around, he said, freaking yeah. 1176 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 12: So he said that, He said that he was not 1177 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 12: afraid to be a cheerleader, and you can be sure, 1178 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 12: Like Ken Flow, it was commentator turned fan for me too, 1179 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 12: Like I was literally like asking for COVID, like taking 1180 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 12: pictures with fans thanking them right. 1181 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 8: It meant so much to us and obviously the athletes, 1182 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 8: and I think to suggest that the crowd did not 1183 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 8: play a role in some of these performances is not 1184 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 8: giving the fans enough credit. I'm kind of a broken 1185 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 8: record on this if you've ingested anything I've said over 1186 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 8: last week, Kenny, But like, crowd can take away a 1187 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 8: bad warm up pretty quickly and wake your ass up, right, 1188 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 8: can it not? 1189 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 6: I agree, It's totally different. 1190 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 10: You know, when I fought in the Ultimate Fighter House 1191 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 10: it was completely quiet. It was the weirdest thing. You 1192 00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 10: hear everything, the energy is completely different. And then you 1193 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 10: go out to let's say UFC fight and smaller venue 1194 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 10: where you go into that large arena, they're all different experiences, 1195 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 10: for better or worse. 1196 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 6: So for me as a fan, the energy just seemed 1197 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 6: completely different, even just watching it from from my Uh, 1198 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 6: come right, it was not dude, it was awesome. It 1199 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 6: was here with the fans and everything. 1200 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 9: It was cool. 1201 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 10: Maybe too many obs, but other than that, it was 1202 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 10: I would have never heard of whatever it is. 1203 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, get those definitely not everything's tim. 1204 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, So Valentina chef Schenko had a point 1205 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 8: to prove. If you would have told me that there 1206 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 8: would be this type of strength discrepancy between her and 1207 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 8: Jessica Andrage, I just you know, and maybe it's my ignorance, 1208 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 8: but Kenny seven for seven on takedowns and uh chef 1209 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 8: Chenko too, I have to just say, and now I 1210 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 8: can say it sits down in the fighter meeting and 1211 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 8: just seem like something was up, you know, just uh, 1212 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 8: she seemed like she was carrying extra weight in her face, 1213 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 8: you know, didn't have the color in her face and. 1214 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 6: Performed just fine on Saturday night, didn't she? 1215 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 10: You know, John and Ray Ray could probably relate to 1216 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 10: this as well. Every once in a while you get 1217 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 10: a guy in the gym who's chirping, who'd be like, 1218 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 10: I could beat that UFC guy, you know, just be 1219 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 10: my chance and Smorry, I want to go out there 1220 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 10: show what kind of fighter I am, and the. 1221 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 6: Dude just gets mauled like he's never fought before. 1222 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 10: That's kind of what Chichiko, That's kind of what Jim 1223 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 10: Tenko did to on Rage dude. 1224 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 6: It was like, oh, oh, you think you think you 1225 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 6: can beat me, that's cute. Let me show you what's up. 1226 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,920 Speaker 10: And she got I mean, she got tossed around like 1227 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 10: a piece of candy. I mean it was unbelievable. She 1228 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 10: walked through her like it was a training session. It 1229 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 10: was like a newcomer. And on Druge has been around. 1230 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 10: She's a powerful girl. She could throw people on their 1231 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 10: heads and she couldn't do anything against Chefchek like like nothing, 1232 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 10: and Chefchecko's not even known as this like big time wrestler. 1233 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 10: And she absolutely was making her an example out of 1234 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 10: Androge and kind of proving a point that was impressed. 1235 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 9: I mean I got one word assassin. I mean she 1236 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 9: really is. 1237 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 11: Somebody said it. I think I don't know where I 1238 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 11: heard it. I think I heard it. But she is 1239 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 11: the closest thing to a secret agent I've ever seen 1240 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 11: in my life. 1241 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 9: I mean she she just played me. 1242 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 11: Yeah right, I mean she's beaten half the guys at 1243 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 11: that weight, I believe. I mean she's now starting to 1244 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 11: look unbeatable at one twenty five to me. And I 1245 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 11: mean if she can't, if she can't beat and she's gonna, 1246 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 11: you know, probably shoot you from about two hundred. 1247 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 8: Well, I was gonna say it like if I really 1248 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 8: have a problem with my daughters at some point, I 1249 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 8: think I will send a message to Valentine to ship 1250 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 8: tank and say what she and her head coach do 1251 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 8: for me? 1252 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 6: Because I am so with you, Hey, real. 1253 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 11: Question, scary, she's scary good at this point, like, and 1254 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 11: what a great story with her and a sister, And yeah, 1255 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 11: I tell you she's she's Peru, Peru's own. 1256 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 8: That's right, Kergus stan Fergus Stans, Yes, of course, hey, 1257 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 8: so very quickly again, and if you have a clock 1258 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 8: on your computer, be mindful of it. But Lauren Murphy 1259 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 8: and Joanne Calderwood are going to fight, and at least 1260 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 8: right now Kenny Valentina. Chefchenko is fighting on mosfeedal headlined 1261 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 8: pay per views. Right as a champion, getting points, making money. 1262 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 8: Doesn't seem like she's losing sleep over not getting a 1263 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,399 Speaker 8: New Nest Trilogy fight, even though many believe she beat 1264 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 8: Amanda in their second meeting in twenty seventeen. Not unlike 1265 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,760 Speaker 8: Andrage being undersized at flyweight, Chef Taker's gonna be undersized 1266 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 8: at one hundred and thirty five pounds. But what are 1267 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 8: your thoughts in terms of chef Chenko and what you 1268 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 8: would do with her in three months, six months long term? 1269 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,120 Speaker 6: Geez? 1270 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 10: You know, if I'm being honest, I don't think there's 1271 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 10: a challenge out there for chef Chenko. I think she's 1272 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,360 Speaker 10: just that good. And this is no disrespect everyone in 1273 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 10: anyone in that division. I think her biggest challenges are 1274 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 10: are women outside of her division. Okay, you know, I 1275 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,240 Speaker 10: think that's the only thing you got for at this point. 1276 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 6: It's just how good she is. Everyone else is fighting 1277 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 6: for second place, and I. 1278 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 8: Just say, well, like Holly Holme and Juliana Penya, right, Like, 1279 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,479 Speaker 8: if you go and look at thirty five, Ray, she's 1280 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 8: beaten those women, like she's headlined against Julian Openya. Like, 1281 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 8: let's see how Amanda does against Julian Opinia. Like I'll 1282 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 8: bet you probably didn't finish her as quickly as you 1283 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 8: see it. 1284 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 10: Like you've seen everyone in boxing where that dude's just 1285 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 10: so good, he's got to go outside of the way club. 1286 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 6: That's chef Chenko. 1287 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1288 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, and she and she believes she beat Nunas she 1289 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 11: doesn't think she looks do you have her fight? 1290 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 8: Jermainia random me, Like you know what I mean, it's 1291 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 8: like you got to find someone at thirty five then 1292 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 8: other than Amanda, like who who she hasn't It's just 1293 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 8: a it's a tricky thing. 1294 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 9: What would you say too? Is a catchwaight at thirty 1295 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 9: I think a. 1296 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 6: Man is not cutting to one hundred and thirty pounds. 1297 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 9: No, I know what I'm saying. 1298 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 11: The MAKEU go wal if she's I don't know you 1299 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 11: that way, Yeah, I think you'll see the same thing. 1300 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 9: It's that's a close fight. It's a very technical fight. 1301 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah. 1302 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 8: Hey Jimmy Crewt, I love him, you know, twenty five 1303 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 8: year old kid twelve and one seemed like he was 1304 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 8: really rounding into form, and certainly Anthony Smith deserves a 1305 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 8: lot of credit. I could do a quarter of an 1306 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 8: hour on how much I love that guy and now 1307 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 8: he's emerging as a fighter, and Kenny footwork and stuff. 1308 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 8: He said, his coaches finally say he's a Factory X 1309 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 8: fighter because he has footwork and defense and takedowns like 1310 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 8: he's he's really he says, I'm only getting good now. 1311 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 8: Fifty fights in, I'm only getting good now. But Ray, 1312 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 8: you spent some time with the cruit corner and hopefully 1313 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 8: it's not too serious an injury. 1314 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 6: Is that You think it was the nerve or the knee? 1315 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 6: Do we have any idea? 1316 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 1317 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 11: Well, he looked like he was having a good time 1318 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 11: at the boar By there after the fight. It was 1319 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 11: it was great to see he was hanging out with 1320 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 11: Anthony Smith and his wife. So it was just great 1321 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 11: to see those guys hanging out and talk and I 1322 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 11: love like, again, it's more than fighting. It's about the 1323 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,520 Speaker 11: relationships you build even with the guys you fight, and 1324 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 11: sometimes those relationships become. 1325 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 9: Stronger because you have a different of bond. 1326 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 11: But yeah, it was great just hanging with those guys 1327 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,959 Speaker 11: when I was in Melbourne, I mean, whatever. 1328 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 9: We talked about, he just treated me like gold. 1329 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 11: I love Australia man, and those people are just great, 1330 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,760 Speaker 11: salted the earth type of guy. 1331 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 9: And you know, I wish him the best. And again 1332 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 9: Anthony Smith hats off to him too, great guy. 1333 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 11: But it was just good to see and you know, 1334 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 11: just one of the words, you know, because people don't 1335 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,959 Speaker 11: realize even with the corners. And sometimes I was dealing 1336 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 11: with some shit too, so you have to stay focused 1337 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 11: and you're really there for the athlete. But you know, 1338 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 11: Sam Greco didn't make it to the ball because he 1339 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 11: had lost his father in law that night, so think 1340 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 11: of the pain he has to go through. And then 1341 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 11: Jimmy told me that he actually told me that they 1342 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 11: have to quarantine for two weeks when they go back. 1343 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 11: So the sacrifices that a lot of people make is 1344 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 11: I just want to shout that out because I don't 1345 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 11: think people even remotely realized. 1346 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, the Aussies and the Kiwis are making. 1347 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 11: And uh. 1348 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 8: Third one and Cody is going to kick you out 1349 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 8: of the stream yard room. 1350 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 6: Unless it's Chris Wyman, you could take that one. 1351 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 8: Kenny does not befriend by the way his uh, his 1352 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 8: former opponents. I'm just he's a tremendously classy martial artists. 1353 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 8: But it's not like Ken Flow's text and Joe los 1354 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 8: On back when he texted back. Sorry, sorry, all right, 1355 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 8: So it is six point fifty on the screws, which 1356 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 8: means I want to talk briefly about pfl one. I 1357 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,919 Speaker 8: really enjoyed watching Ken Flow back on commentary. I really 1358 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 8: enjoyed watching Clay Collar and Anthony Pettis go at it. 1359 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 6: I really enjoyed watching the dude. 1360 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 8: I think Bubba Jenkins who beat Lance Bomber, I'm a 1361 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 8: fan of his can flow, but Ken Flow, like these 1362 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 8: are my twin brother Jason's words, not mine, but it's 1363 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 8: you just did not miss a beat, your ability to 1364 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 8: explain this stuff to everybody, and Adam little flavor with 1365 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 8: the humor and the energy. I just think you did 1366 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 8: objectively a very good job and you should be proud, 1367 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 8: and hopefully your wife was proud and your family was proud, 1368 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 8: and it's just good to see you back on the sticks. 1369 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 8: My man is really all I got. Ray Am, I 1370 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 8: born you're sitting back like. 1371 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure my whole family was sleepy by the 1372 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 10: time the this is a long one today, I might 1373 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 10: have drifted out there, but. 1374 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 8: Ken Flow, Hey, uh, great to get one in the can. 1375 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 8: I mean, nobody's happier than you. Obviously that pfl one 1376 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,440 Speaker 8: is in the books. I mean, how was it and 1377 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 8: what were your thoughts on everything? 1378 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 6: It was great to be back, man, it was awesome. 1379 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 3: You know. 1380 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 6: I think that we had some great fights. 1381 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 10: I think that we had some huge upsets that night, 1382 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,520 Speaker 10: which was really surprising for me to watch. 1383 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 6: And you know, we saw a. 1384 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 10: Couple of former champions go down, which was always exciting, 1385 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 10: and you know, seeing in that league format, I think 1386 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 10: that makes things a little. 1387 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 6: Bit juicier as the season moves on. 1388 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 10: And I felt out there, man, you know, I always 1389 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 10: uh feel like I could do better, and I think that, uh, 1390 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 10: I should improve as as we go on. And I'm 1391 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 10: excited to get after for the rest of the fights. 1392 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 10: And I appreciate you watching, and uh, yeah, it's been fun. 1393 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 3: Man. 1394 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 10: It was good to finally get back in there. And 1395 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 10: like you say, you know, there's nothing like watching live fights. 1396 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 6: Man, Oh, the greatest job in the world. You messed 1397 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 6: up this one jiu jitsu sequence. I'll tell you about 1398 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 6: it off the air. 1399 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 9: I don't believe. 1400 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 11: Listen, as far as I'm concerned, can cover just. 1401 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 9: Thank you, fights man. 1402 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 8: Every time I see an ankle lock like Brendon Allen 1403 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 8: got on Carl Robertson, I wonder why these people train 1404 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 8: jiu jitsu? 1405 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,760 Speaker 6: Hey, how about Randy Ruboy Brothers. 1406 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 9: Sweet? 1407 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, you recall one naked show? Uh in that seat? 1408 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,479 Speaker 6: I don't recall. 1409 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 3: See. 1410 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 6: I'm sure you've seen one. I don't know that I've 1411 01:02:59,280 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 6: seen one. 1412 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 10: Listen, man, you know, if your tie is tight enough 1413 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 10: around the neck, you know, you could shut off the 1414 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 10: blood to your brain and put you to sleep eventually. 1415 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 10: And you really don't need that much pressure. And Randy 1416 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 10: Brown is probably not your regular average dude. 1417 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 6: He's strong. 1418 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 10: He had that right around the neck of his opponent, 1419 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 10: had the other arm tied up so there was no 1420 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,439 Speaker 10: resistance with that one arm. 1421 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 6: H and he put him asleep. I thought it was 1422 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 6: a thing of beauty. 1423 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 1: Man. 1424 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 10: And to see Randy, you know, Randy, I think if 1425 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 10: you look at some of his weaknesses, maybe it's grappling. 1426 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 6: You look sharp. So it was awesome to see. That 1427 01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 6: was a great win. Man. 1428 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 8: It's time I'm telling you New York's got something. Hey, well, Jamaica, 1429 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 8: he claims Jamaica. Obviously he spent a lot of his 1430 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 8: commentive years in Jamaica. But he was born in Springfield, Massachusetts. 1431 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 8: So I asked him how a fighter meeting if we 1432 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 8: could claim him so he could be the first Boston 1433 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 8: born UFC champions. 1434 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 6: My thing is too yeah, go ahead, Oh no, I 1435 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 6: was gonna say my three older siblings claimed field. There 1436 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 6: there you go. 1437 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,520 Speaker 8: See there you go, Edgar Florian's Field, Massachusetts. 1438 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 6: You like that doctor Gus shouting out your oldest guy? 1439 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,640 Speaker 6: I got you? What was I talking about? Doctor Gus? 1440 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 6: My favorite? I got completely Randy Brown. 1441 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 8: Randy Brown, the maturity dripping off of this kid in 1442 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 8: our fighter meeting. You know, he stayed aligned with his 1443 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 8: original coaches. He now has eleven UFC fights he's quietly won. 1444 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 8: How many you think of those? 1445 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 6: Eleven? Seven and four? Not too bad, you. 1446 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 8: Know, at one hundred and seventy pounds, great frame for 1447 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 8: the division. I'm really excited to see uh, to see 1448 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 8: what he can do. All right, So I think that's 1449 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 8: all my notes. Unless I'm forgetting something. We can get 1450 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:34,720 Speaker 8: to the pronunciation of the week. Ray you have a 1451 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 8: class at the top of the hour. So we were 1452 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 8: gonna let you fly right now unless you have anything 1453 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 8: else for us. 1454 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 9: But I think we covered it all. 1455 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,120 Speaker 6: I didn't even Cody. Yes, and I want to hear 1456 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 6: this Saturday. 1457 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 7: There's a huge fight for oh this Saturday, Jim. 1458 01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 9: And I'm back on the plane ones. What am I doing? 1459 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm in I'm delirious. 1460 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 6: Thank god, we got a lot of. 1461 01:04:59,080 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 9: John. 1462 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 11: You screwed me up for an hour. Imagine I talked 1463 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 11: for an hour and we don't mention for Morob So. 1464 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 6: Five straight wins, all by unanimous decision. 1465 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 8: He's the minus two forty betting favorite against Cody's stamen 1466 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 8: huge fight. 1467 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 6: You're back on a plane Wednesday. I bet you. 1468 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 8: I bet you're probably excited to have something to shift 1469 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 8: the focus a little bit. 1470 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, no, it's looking when you do. 1471 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 11: You know, when you're coaching, I mean, you go from 1472 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 11: one fight to another, you don't really have time to 1473 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 11: lament over anything or you know, really focus. You got 1474 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 11: to you gotta keep moving or who you sink. So 1475 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,880 Speaker 11: as of as of Wednesday, this will be behind me, 1476 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 11: you know kind of and uh, and then we just 1477 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 11: move on. I'm really psyched from arob uh and it's 1478 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 11: not an easy fight, and uh it'll be a great 1479 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 11: test for him and he'll move up the rankings if 1480 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,320 Speaker 11: you wins, so you know he's gonna give it as all. 1481 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 8: Hey, So from now on, we're just gonna ask you 1482 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,240 Speaker 8: how much time you have, and we'll take as much 1483 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 8: time as you have every week because that's what the 1484 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 8: listeners seem to want. They want you to be more 1485 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 8: part of the show. So uh, we're not trying to 1486 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 8: uh lean away from what the audience wants, So uh, 1487 01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 8: thank you for the extended time. I can't believe it 1488 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 8: was a triple X shirt. I can't believe you don't 1489 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 8: tye your hair? Is your hair really that black. 1490 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 6: Thirteen shoes size thirteen shoes. 1491 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 11: Which is weird. No, don't die the hair. I think 1492 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 11: white people. I think Alexa. I think Whiteman told me 1493 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 11: was asking him if it was my real hair. And 1494 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 11: then I was sitting down, I noticed the guy was 1495 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 11: behind me. I think he was looking down to see 1496 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 11: if there was like, can't plugs this very creepy. 1497 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 9: I gotta tell you. 1498 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 10: Right right, I want to know if ship been down 1499 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 10: in the octagon and you have size thirteen shoes and 1500 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 10: you're swimming in these things? 1501 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 3: What would you? 1502 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 6: What would you? 1503 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 10: Would you have to take the shoes off and start 1504 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 10: throwing down what he was supposed to do? 1505 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 9: I would I couldn't even get up the stairs. I 1506 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 9: almost got a boy yet. Oh I was stripping over 1507 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 9: my own feet. It was pretty bad. 1508 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 6: I believe it's ridiculous. 1509 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 9: I can next time. It was crazy, weird. It was 1510 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 9: a weird attired day for me. 1511 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so funny. 1512 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 8: And I had no idea other than the fact that 1513 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 8: maybe it was a little fitting and the question just 1514 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 8: gave us a lot of great content. But like, my 1515 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,240 Speaker 8: hair is white, I shave it. Your hair is Do 1516 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 8: you have like a few white hairs or not? 1517 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1518 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 4: They were. 1519 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 9: All right. 1520 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 6: Well, I guess having daughters doesn't cause gray hand. 1521 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 9: Good fucking know. 1522 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 6: All right, we gotta go, We love you, We gotta go. 1523 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 9: This was this was beautiful. 1524 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,440 Speaker 6: This was well, not my best show, but you had 1525 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 6: a great show. 1526 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 11: Hey, let's make sure you say hi to Comosi for 1527 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,360 Speaker 11: me too. When you see him he's fighting. This will 1528 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 11: another another great guy. 1529 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, when he finishes his seventeen day quarantine. 1530 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, it has to be new Jersey has to do that, right, 1531 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,960 Speaker 11: everybody's at the end of the pandemic. Nobody's even seventeen. 1532 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 11: Why not make it? Why not make it a month? 1533 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 8: No, hey, what class got top of the hour? What 1534 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 8: class do you have? Adult kickboxing? 1535 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 3: What do you know? 1536 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 6: Just making sure it wasn't jiu jitsu, because. 1537 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 8: I want to give you time to get on if 1538 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 8: that's the case, time to get your pajamason for the 1539 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 8: gentile arg You gotta go. 1540 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 9: We gotta go. I haven't had my smoking jacket on 1541 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 9: in a long time. 1542 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 8: All right, way long, go minute, go, get your smoke 1543 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 8: your jacket. I can't believe it was a triple X. 1544 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 8: I was like afraid to include that as a choice 1545 01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,400 Speaker 8: because I didn't want to offend the guy, and he 1546 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 8: ended up wearing triple X out there all right, some 1547 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,040 Speaker 8: picks coming up in about Oh no, we got a 1548 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 8: pronunciation of the week. 1549 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,120 Speaker 6: See there he is. Well, I was going to ask, like, sorry, 1550 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 6: Cody smoked. I'm young. I didn't know that. 1551 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 7: So this episode is brought to you by Garden City 1552 01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:43,960 Speaker 7: Hair Plugs. 1553 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,400 Speaker 6: If you're head back, let's just. 1554 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 9: Plug it up. 1555 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 7: So we're gonna get to the pronunciation of the week 1556 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,280 Speaker 7: when John takes the floor. 1557 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you could fire me, except your power 1558 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 8: doesn't extend that far. So this woman pronunciation of the 1559 01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,920 Speaker 8: week time. By the way, our executive producer Cody Merrow 1560 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 8: holding this goddamn god forsake and program together today, all right, 1561 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 8: this woman charged with kicking off the main card hot 1562 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:11,600 Speaker 8: ESPN two Saturday against Luana Carolina UFC Fight Night on 1563 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 8: ESPN two. 1564 01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 6: Of whom am I speaking? 1565 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,720 Speaker 7: This fight is right before me, rob actually, so make 1566 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 7: sure you guys are tuning in early for Polianna Batello. 1567 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 6: Let's here is that? Can I hear it Againlulu? 1568 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 10: I'm kind of a stickler for Portuguese names. I don't 1569 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 10: know if I don't know if he did you say 1570 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:41,679 Speaker 10: what did you say? 1571 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 7: I said Botello, So I might I whitened up the 1572 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:45,680 Speaker 7: last name. 1573 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 6: So I think all that. Yeah, I think John's leading forwards. 1574 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 6: That's a dog. 1575 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 8: So if you notice Kenny said more like botel yo 1576 01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 8: as opposed to Botello. Right, So here's the thing. We 1577 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 8: will determine how this affects your record when I hear 1578 01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 8: how they do it on broadcast. Okay, but what I 1579 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 8: was looking for was Pollyanna boat tell yo. Okay, now 1580 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,559 Speaker 8: that's not always the case, but I know you're looking 1581 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 8: at me like I'm crazy. 1582 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 6: Well, if they go. 1583 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 8: Boat Tello, right, I don't know what you said exactly. 1584 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 8: If they go Botello on the broadcast, we'll give you win. Otherwise, 1585 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 8: boat tell you was what we were looking for, probably 1586 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 8: for me, dog, But all. 1587 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:26,760 Speaker 6: Right, we'll see. 1588 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 7: We'll see what the pole does for me. But for 1589 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 7: every pronunciation from now leading up to Houston, John, when 1590 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 7: I get to see you, right, you have to bang 1591 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 7: out shots for everyone, I get right, So I get 1592 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 7: that one right, that's one of three. 1593 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 6: That's finos baby, all right. 1594 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 7: I have not met the game bread tattoo this weekend unfortunately, 1595 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:46,719 Speaker 7: So I'm. 1596 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 8: Getting the game bread tattoo. Whether it's a bet on 1597 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,320 Speaker 8: theline or not, it's just a matter. Trevor Whitman comes 1598 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 8: up to me, He's like, what are you doing with 1599 01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 8: the game bread tattoo? 1600 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,760 Speaker 6: I was like, how much time do you have for 1601 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 6: the story. It goes to bat time as we have 1602 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:00,000 Speaker 6: this program. 1603 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,600 Speaker 8: That's right, well, Cody, thanks Cody coming to Houston for 1604 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 8: UFC two sixty two. His birthday is May fifteenth, so 1605 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,800 Speaker 8: he's going to come watch Chandler and OLIVERA and n 1606 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 8: Adz and Leon Edwards. 1607 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 6: I've never met the kid. 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John Hennick and Kenny Florian podcast. 1642 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,920 Speaker 6: Oh it is time for the Main Event Challenge and 1643 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,400 Speaker 6: my man Ian Parker is with us on social media 1644 01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 6: at Ian Parker MMA. Has to take a sip right 1645 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 6: as I intro the man update the standings real quick 1646 01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 6: before I get to. 1647 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 8: My guy, Ip Dale, put your lip in. Todd Kenflow 1648 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,760 Speaker 8: four four was last week's Team Ank Representative lead is 1649 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 8: still oursie in fifty two to forty two but it's. 1650 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:09,040 Speaker 9: Great to see you. 1651 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,759 Speaker 8: As many of our listeners know, we are very happy 1652 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 8: to see you a part of team PFL. 1653 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,599 Speaker 6: It's two to one now a couple of PFL guys. 1654 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 8: But if you want to see Ian Parker doing content 1655 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,160 Speaker 8: for the PFL, there's a pre show on Wednesday at 1656 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 8: four thirty pm Eastern on ESPN Plus. And it gives 1657 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 8: us great pleasure to see you get this opportunity. You 1658 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 8: know how we feel about you as a as a 1659 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 8: mixed martial arts mind, and that's why we gave you 1660 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 8: the opportunity and we're very happy that that others see 1661 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 8: what we saw about a year ago. 1662 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 6: I'll get us some sponsors. Just kidding. Nah, he's not kidding, 1663 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 6: but he's kidding, But he's not kidding. I'm totally kidding. No, 1664 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 6: you're talent now, you're talent now. 1665 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 4: I know now, I you know, maybe I'll get like 1666 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 4: six more followers and those sponsors will write me back 1667 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:53,719 Speaker 4: at me personal. 1668 01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 6: So has keem Flow followed you on Instagram yet? 1669 01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 9: No? 1670 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 6: All right, so are you that's so funny? 1671 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 3: Right? 1672 01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 8: My twin brother, My twin brother already has the follow 1673 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 8: So when he massages ken Flow for the broadcast. It's 1674 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,599 Speaker 8: not because he's looking for that follow But I did 1675 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 8: tape your content. I guess I should. I'm lying, right, 1676 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 8: I guess I'm lying when I say that. But no, 1677 01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 8: but I very much look forward to going back. It 1678 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 8: was a busy weekend. But checking out your stuff with 1679 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 8: is it James Lynch and the coach? Is that what 1680 01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 8: you're doing? 1681 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1682 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 4: No, No, James Lynch is doing his own social media 1683 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 4: interviewing separately, coach and I did it with Schawn and 1684 01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:32,559 Speaker 4: actually Kenny and Randy, back and forth we were with 1685 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 4: the broadcast team. 1686 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,920 Speaker 6: Okay, the it was pretty funny. 1687 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 4: Sean and the rehearsal mentioned the Duck Nation and Randy 1688 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,479 Speaker 4: had no idea what we were talking about. He's like, actually, 1689 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 4: I was a Beaver in college, so I don't know 1690 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 4: about the duck thing. 1691 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 8: How intimate is your audience that people would, with all 1692 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,960 Speaker 8: due respect to our podcast, that Sean O'Connell would liberally 1693 01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 8: drop a Duck Nation on a pfl pre show, Because hey, 1694 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 8: you think I'm dropping anakinfloring podcast on a fucking UFC 1695 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,760 Speaker 8: pre show. You know, I'll try to lose my out there. 1696 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,480 Speaker 6: You know, I didn't even have conversation. 1697 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 4: I'm the only conversation I had with Sean before was 1698 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 4: the first meeting we signed in and him and I 1699 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,560 Speaker 4: were the only two on and he was putting on 1700 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 4: his pants on Zoom and I was like, Sean, you know, 1701 01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,559 Speaker 4: before I meet someone in that situation, before you buy 1702 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 4: me dinner. And he was like zipping up. He's like, oh, 1703 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,679 Speaker 4: I know anyone was on here. I'm like, all right, 1704 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 4: well this is cool. And then the next night me 1705 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 4: the duck, So that was that was pretty cool. 1706 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,599 Speaker 8: Well, I would love to see you and Ken Flow 1707 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,280 Speaker 8: going going back and forth, but I'm very happy for 1708 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,240 Speaker 8: the both of you. But we need to move on 1709 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 8: to UFC Fight Night, Reyes versus pro Hoska, and we 1710 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 8: will start with what it's a huge fight at one 1711 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 8: hundred and thirty five pounds. We mentioned it earlier, Ian 1712 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,759 Speaker 8: ray Longo's guy, My Rob Dwallas Willie minus two forty 1713 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,160 Speaker 8: Cody Stamen plus two hundred. Last fight for Stamen against 1714 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,160 Speaker 8: Jimmy Rivera ran into a very sharp Jimmy Rivera on 1715 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 8: Fight Island last July. How do you see this one 1716 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 8: playing out? Ian Parker, And ultimately we will need a winner. 1717 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think minus two to forty's a little heavy 1718 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 4: for a rob in a fight against another wrestler who's 1719 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 4: also a really good striker speed wise, But I do 1720 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 4: think Morob's cardio and his constant pressure. As we saw 1721 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 4: what Rivera did the statement, so I'm going to go 1722 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 4: Morob here. I just think that that line is a 1723 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:10,680 Speaker 4: little heavy for a straight. 1724 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 6: Bet Ken flow. What do you think about this bet? 1725 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,599 Speaker 8: I mean, Morob has not had a knack for putting 1726 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 8: people away per se, but he has been dominant and 1727 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,680 Speaker 8: he just never stops man. I mean right, It's like 1728 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 8: I can't relate to the output of some of these guys, 1729 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 8: and I would think he'd be a hard guy to 1730 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 8: fade at the window. 1731 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 10: What do you think, Yeah, listen, I think that Cody 1732 01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 10: Damon definitely has some skills. He's a solid wrestler himself. 1733 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 10: We can't forget about that. He's developing striker. But I 1734 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 10: do think that what Morob may lack in the striking 1735 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 10: depart against someone like statement, I think he makes up 1736 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 10: for with this pressure. 1737 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 6: His pace is conditioning in his wrestling. 1738 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:47,439 Speaker 10: I think there will be a lot of moments for 1739 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 10: Stateman's going to be pressed up against the cage and 1740 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 10: you know, trying to you know, wrestle them off in 1741 01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 10: the clinch. And I do think Morob will definitely hit 1742 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,639 Speaker 10: a few takedowns here and there, and I think that's 1743 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:58,519 Speaker 10: gonna be the difference here. 1744 01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 6: I think Morob gets done as well. 1745 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,920 Speaker 8: By light heavyweight division Ewan kute Lava minus one thirty 1746 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,559 Speaker 8: his series with Maga bet Anklia have now complete, of course, 1747 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 8: taken on Dustin Jacoby. 1748 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:09,559 Speaker 6: Plus one ten. 1749 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 8: Big opportunity in for Jacoby here stepping in for Devin Clark, 1750 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 8: trying to get his second win of the year. He's 1751 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 8: got momentum overall four straight and it's a good story obviously, 1752 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,120 Speaker 8: given the time between UFC stars. What are your thoughts 1753 01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,839 Speaker 8: on h on the former quarterback. I believe Dustin Jacoby 1754 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 8: here against the Hulk Ewonelba. 1755 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,720 Speaker 4: You know what, I actually kind of like Jacoby here 1756 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,439 Speaker 4: as an underdog. I do think that his technical striking. 1757 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 4: I think I'm sorry, Kenny, you knew, come on, you 1758 01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,639 Speaker 4: knew I was going that way. Who are you kidding 1759 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,559 Speaker 4: at this? This is why you should go first, I 1760 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,960 Speaker 4: told you, But uh no, all serious. I think that 1761 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,599 Speaker 4: Iron Kutalava comes out the gate too hot. I think 1762 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 4: he throws so much and he gets tired. I just think, uh, 1763 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 4: Jacoby's technical striking output will be the game changer as 1764 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 4: long as he doesn't blow his gasket in rounds one 1765 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,439 Speaker 4: and two. I think he just has more tools in 1766 01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 4: the striking department to get this done. And I don't 1767 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 4: think he gets scared by screaming in his face. 1768 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:07,200 Speaker 8: So, I mean, I figure that guy you would focus 1769 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 8: on because you're a comic book guy. You know. 1770 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,679 Speaker 6: The Hulk, the Hulk. What do you mean you don't 1771 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,040 Speaker 6: see the Hulk's real name is Bruce Banner. 1772 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 4: It's not the whole. But I get what you're saying. Okay, 1773 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 4: that's fine, you want to. 1774 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,280 Speaker 6: I get it. Can flow? You have called fights? Can't flow? 1775 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,160 Speaker 8: You have called fights involving What are your thoughts on 1776 01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 8: on the Hulk here? I love watching the Hulk man 1777 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,200 Speaker 8: for better for I'm a fan. 1778 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 6: I'm also and Jacoby, what do you think? 1779 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,760 Speaker 10: Well, listen, dude, he's a dangerous guy and has the 1780 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 10: ability to knock out anyone in the division, but he 1781 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 10: is a little bit reckless at times, and I think that, uh, 1782 01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,760 Speaker 10: it allows for others to come in and and knock 1783 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 10: him out. I do think that, uh, you know, for 1784 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,200 Speaker 10: the majority of what Ian said, he's correct. 1785 01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 6: I think that Dustin is going to be a more 1786 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 6: technical guy. 1787 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,680 Speaker 10: I think that he might be able to catch Kotlova 1788 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 10: coming in and actually knock him out. 1789 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,080 Speaker 6: But I think if he's smart, he doesn't try to engage. 1790 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 10: He tries to play the more technical striker and out point. 1791 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 6: Of round by round, and if there's an opportunity, takes 1792 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:16,760 Speaker 6: him out. 1793 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 10: But you don't want to force it against someone who's 1794 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,680 Speaker 10: dantresses cut love all right. 1795 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 6: New main event challenge rule. 1796 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,320 Speaker 8: Whoever is losing at the time has to pick the 1797 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 8: main event first, but ken Flow gets the red corner 1798 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,200 Speaker 8: for every other selection here too, for unless the guest 1799 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,720 Speaker 8: picker is somebody who has a UFC resume better than his, 1800 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,960 Speaker 8: because we need to put some respect on the name 1801 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 8: Cub Swanson, and we need to put some respect on 1802 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,120 Speaker 8: the name Kenny Flora, and so kem Flo's gonna have 1803 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 8: the red corner for this one. But as he trails us, 1804 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,559 Speaker 8: he and I will have him lead the main event 1805 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 8: for you. He gets Chikadse minus one eighty five cubs 1806 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 8: Swanson plus one sixty will need the round. 1807 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 6: The method of victory boys, my son needs to Jesus. 1808 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 8: Chikadze has won seven in a row, Kenny, he's five 1809 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:56,839 Speaker 8: to zero in the UFC. 1810 01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,280 Speaker 6: Ian. I think he's a great fighter, He's a great 1811 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 6: human being. 1812 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 3: Love. 1813 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 8: I've love getting to know him in the fighter meetings. 1814 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,519 Speaker 8: But I think we need to respect cub Swanson a 1815 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 8: little bit here. He and I mean again, I'm an 1816 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,560 Speaker 8: amateur here, but you know, twentieth UFC fight, he has momentum. 1817 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,760 Speaker 8: I don't have to be there in Vegas to know 1818 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,720 Speaker 8: that he's putting in the work and he's in a 1819 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 8: good place. Any value for you on cub Swanson here 1820 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 8: ip against Katze. 1821 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 6: That's that's no for me, John on this one. Listen. 1822 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:27,479 Speaker 6: I love cub Swanson. 1823 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 4: What what he showed him his last fight is he's 1824 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,720 Speaker 4: still here and he still he still wants to be here, 1825 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,000 Speaker 4: and he has the skills. I just think Chikazi is 1826 01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,040 Speaker 4: a new type of fighter. The striking is just light 1827 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,519 Speaker 4: years passed a lot of people. And if he keeps 1828 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,519 Speaker 4: the fight standing and we saw his ground game a 1829 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,840 Speaker 4: little bit, I just think he's faster. I think he 1830 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 4: knows how to pick his shots and similar to the 1831 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,479 Speaker 4: last fight, we broke down just a better technical striker 1832 01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 4: as long as he doesn't brawl and be willing to 1833 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 4: take a shot from Cub, because Cub can still knock 1834 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 4: you out. I don't see how he gets outstruck by 1835 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 4: Cub Swanson, and I think he gets the win. 1836 01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:01,320 Speaker 6: Ken Flow, Giga chi Kadze Cub Swanson round Co main 1837 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,800 Speaker 6: event this weekend. Who do you have? You know? 1838 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 10: I think if it was Giga's you know, first second, 1839 01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 10: maybe even third UFC fight, Uh, you know, there'd be 1840 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 10: some hesitation there on my part in picking Giga. But 1841 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,760 Speaker 10: I think that he really is very comfortable now in 1842 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,080 Speaker 10: the UFC. I think that, uh, he's tall, he's linking, 1843 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,920 Speaker 10: and he has a crap ton. 1844 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 6: Of experience as a strucker. 1845 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:26,000 Speaker 9: Uh. 1846 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,240 Speaker 6: And I know he's been working on his introduced for 1847 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:29,080 Speaker 6: a long time now. 1848 01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,479 Speaker 10: I actually trained with him uh many years ago, and 1849 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,240 Speaker 10: so I know he's focused. I think he's going to 1850 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,759 Speaker 10: be tough in that division given his size and physical skills. 1851 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:41,760 Speaker 6: I like Giga here. 1852 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 10: I like Gigabye by decision against. 1853 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 8: Giga chikadsee for Ken Flow and Ian and then our 1854 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 8: main event, Eurie pro Haska minus one forty five Dominic 1855 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,599 Speaker 8: Rays plus one twenty five, Kenny, we'll have you lead 1856 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:57,799 Speaker 8: off here in neither round of the method of victory. Obviously, 1857 01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 8: this is the return fight for Rays since the UF 1858 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,000 Speaker 8: two fifty three loss to Jan Bohovich pro Hosco. We've 1859 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,880 Speaker 8: seen him once in the UFC. It was violent. I 1860 01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,599 Speaker 8: know you're a big pro Hosca fan. What are your 1861 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 8: thoughts on the main event and what we might see 1862 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 8: and ultimately who wins it? 1863 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 6: Well, you alluded to it. 1864 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,439 Speaker 10: You know, we only have seen him one and that 1865 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,800 Speaker 10: was very impressive as you have seen you. You know, 1866 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,000 Speaker 10: if if he's able to compete that way and show 1867 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,680 Speaker 10: that movement, I think he. 1868 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,680 Speaker 6: Can offer up a lot of problems for Donic Rays. 1869 01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:29,080 Speaker 8: Uh. 1870 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,240 Speaker 10: And you know, for Raise, we haven't really seen him 1871 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 10: since his last loss. We're not sure what he's gonna 1872 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,439 Speaker 10: look like coming back, right, we haven't seen him since 1873 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 10: his last place. 1874 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,000 Speaker 6: So I think that, you. 1875 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,400 Speaker 10: Know, I think, Uh Prosca is probably gonna be the 1876 01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 10: favorite here. 1877 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 6: I'm not sure he gets it done by knockout. 1878 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 10: I think he can, but again I'm gonna have to 1879 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 10: go with your pro Hosca here by by decision. 1880 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,639 Speaker 8: So Ian, this is a very interesting main event, hugely 1881 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 8: important fight at two hundred five pounds. And I was 1882 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,040 Speaker 8: on a podcast earlier today and they asked me to 1883 01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,080 Speaker 8: sort of handicap it, and I said, you know, sometimes 1884 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,519 Speaker 8: when I'm calling fights, I have this amazing lens twenty 1885 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 8: six out of these forty shows into these guys and 1886 01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 8: where they're at during fight week. For a fight like this, 1887 01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 8: I don't have that insight, right, I'm not there. I'm 1888 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,439 Speaker 8: not necessarily following these guyss every move the way. Maybe 1889 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 8: I have intel on Cub Swanson per se, so I 1890 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,200 Speaker 8: don't have that lens. I think it's a very close fight. 1891 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,679 Speaker 8: I would submit to you that I think Prohaska deserves 1892 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,600 Speaker 8: to be the favorite. I think some people are surprised 1893 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 8: by that. What do you see happening this weekend? And 1894 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,400 Speaker 8: ultimately on which side default. 1895 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 4: I'm actually a little surprised he's the favorite. Also because 1896 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,640 Speaker 4: in the fight against Volkan Ozdemir, that first round he 1897 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,000 Speaker 4: wasn't winning, and then Olsnemer looked like he tired out, 1898 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,160 Speaker 4: and year he caught him. 1899 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 6: You know. With Rez, yeah. 1900 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,400 Speaker 4: He lost to Yamblohovich, but look at Plouhovich has done, 1901 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 4: and he wouldn't be Israel Dasani. You know, we're seeing 1902 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 4: a different Yamblokhovitch. Maybe he doesn't get enough credit. And 1903 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 4: Rayes before that was the man. He was doing everything 1904 01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,360 Speaker 4: he was supposed to do. 1905 01:23:59,439 --> 01:23:59,840 Speaker 6: He was the pro. 1906 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,560 Speaker 4: I don't really see a reason why all of a 1907 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,559 Speaker 4: sudden we just discount him here. In fact, I love 1908 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 4: him as an underdog in this situation because one he's 1909 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,439 Speaker 4: you know, it's hard for me to bet on someone 1910 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,439 Speaker 4: who's been in the UFC one time, like literally, and 1911 01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 4: then all of a sudden he gets thrown into a 1912 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 4: big fight against the guy in Reyes, who is far 1913 01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 4: on top level competition. 1914 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:19,719 Speaker 6: You know, they make questions win over. 1915 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 4: Wiman because it was Wyman's first fight at two oh five, 1916 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,360 Speaker 4: but it was still Chris Wyman. It still wasn't like 1917 01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,960 Speaker 4: a you know, a no namer who was his first fight. 1918 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,960 Speaker 4: So I like Dominic rays here. If i'm Reyes, I 1919 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 4: try to drag this into his deep waters as possible. 1920 01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 4: I try to wrestle the hell out of this guy 1921 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 4: and knock it in brawls. Don't be cocky bouncing around 1922 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 4: trying to land that big shot, because we see Yuri 1923 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,760 Speaker 4: will land a bigger shot, and that's when he will 1924 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:42,320 Speaker 4: go night night. 1925 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go Reyes. 1926 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say fourth round TKO, unless here he surprises 1927 01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 4: us with cardio. I've heard nothing about his distance fighting, 1928 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 4: and I think Reyes can has that cardio, So I'm 1929 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 4: gonna go. 1930 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with that as my result. 1931 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,800 Speaker 8: I may just sit on the couch and get a 1932 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 8: two liter coke. Kenny's not listening, so I'll just say 1933 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 8: a large bag of nacho cheese Doritos and a two 1934 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,120 Speaker 8: liter coke and just sit on the couch and watch 1935 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,599 Speaker 8: these fights to all my social media apps. 1936 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,519 Speaker 6: You know time the meeting is on Friday. I was 1937 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 6: just looking. 1938 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:16,519 Speaker 10: I was just looking at at Ray's no record, and 1939 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,640 Speaker 10: I don't know. I don't think he's faced. You know, 1940 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,280 Speaker 10: John Jones, obviously he's paid. Was was, you know, an 1941 01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:27,600 Speaker 10: amazing opposition there, But I don't know. I think Prahasca 1942 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,720 Speaker 10: is a different kind of striker. I don't think that 1943 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,599 Speaker 10: Raise has faced anyone like him. Yeah, but it should 1944 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 10: be an interesting find out. 1945 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 8: I was joking that you weren't that you weren't listening 1946 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,840 Speaker 8: because I don't like to admit to drinking soda when 1947 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 8: you're intensely paying attention. But I'm thinking, you know, maybe 1948 01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,800 Speaker 8: no sequila this week. At weekend, maybe we just go 1949 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,679 Speaker 8: two Leader Coca Cola fucking classic, large bag of Nacho 1950 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,840 Speaker 8: cheese Doritos and get laughing gas for the children and 1951 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 8: put them down at about six thirty. I congratulations, man, 1952 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,439 Speaker 8: seriously very happy for you. I mean, you got there's 1953 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,280 Speaker 8: no doubt about it. And uh, you know, just be 1954 01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 8: you buddy. You know you can see ian pre show 1955 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,080 Speaker 8: for uh for the PFL four thirty pm Wednesday. We're 1956 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,800 Speaker 8: not talking about the PFL. By the way, next week, 1957 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:10,599 Speaker 8: no plugue, no nothing. 1958 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 6: So just enjoy this week. 1959 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 8: Next week Eddie and Parker m m A any final 1960 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:16,680 Speaker 8: party shot from you, my man before we let you. 1961 01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 6: That goes for ken Flow too. I'm sorry the usually 1962 01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 6: they just go fuck myself at this point. It's uh, 1963 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 6: I will I will say this. 1964 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 8: And I thought I congratulated him twice and maybe my 1965 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,400 Speaker 8: twin brother will tell me it's a backhanded compliment, you know, 1966 01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:29,880 Speaker 8: and I'm not. 1967 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,920 Speaker 6: You met Well, It's fine, listen, I'm joking. Was it really? 1968 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:35,679 Speaker 6: Was it really? 1969 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:36,719 Speaker 4: Eh? 1970 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 6: Look, you've already you texted me. You sent me an 1971 01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,719 Speaker 6: audio message that was very nice. 1972 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 3: Of you to do. 1973 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Maybe you don't remember it was a 1974 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 4: busy week for you. I completely understand that. I will say, 1975 01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,800 Speaker 4: this really cool experience for the first time was going 1976 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,360 Speaker 4: to be able to listen to guys like Kenny, rehearse 1977 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,240 Speaker 4: and do all this stuff. 1978 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,200 Speaker 6: Kenny, you were awesome that night. 1979 01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 4: I already texted you and I will tell you there's 1980 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,040 Speaker 4: a lot of craziness going on in the background. And 1981 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 4: then Dan to listen to Kenny live on the headset. 1982 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,639 Speaker 4: By the way, getting to hear winners before they were announced. Huh, 1983 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,720 Speaker 4: that was different. That was different from production. But we're 1984 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,320 Speaker 4: not talking about that organization. Don't worry, John, I'm not mentioning. 1985 01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,240 Speaker 6: I'm joking around. 1986 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 8: Did you watch the UFC two sixty one broadcast? I'm sorry, 1987 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,360 Speaker 8: did you watch the UFC to sixty one pay per 1988 01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:21,520 Speaker 8: view broadcast? 1989 01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 4: I mean that's that's Let me let me ask you 1990 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,240 Speaker 4: a question, How really was it with fifteen thousand people? 1991 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,559 Speaker 4: Just I mean, I'm sure, I mean, your your faces, 1992 01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 4: you corbier and rogue. You need to have your own 1993 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 4: collection of NFTs. I know Kenny probably got super excited 1994 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 4: to me mentioning that in the crypto world. But like 1995 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,720 Speaker 4: you know, rogue in grabbing you guys, like exaculated for 1996 01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:43,760 Speaker 4: the first time in his life. 1997 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 6: Was beyond it was you actually should Yeah it was. 1998 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 8: It was an incredible, incredible night. I love the fans 1999 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,519 Speaker 8: so much. I love the fans so much. Uh and no, 2000 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,439 Speaker 8: God love you, buddy. I'm trying to be nice out here. 2001 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,800 Speaker 6: Really I heard. Uh, I heard you're fighting Jake Paul 2002 01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:10,720 Speaker 6: Now me, no fighting Pat Militic. Yeah, you know what 2003 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 6: he has to do? 2004 01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,320 Speaker 8: Do you know what militant has to do if he 2005 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 8: loses this three round boxing match to me? 2006 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:17,680 Speaker 6: Oh? 2007 01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, So you stopped listening to the Anakin Flooring podcast 2008 01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:21,840 Speaker 8: now because you got signed by. 2009 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 6: I thought that was a joke. This is a real thing. Okay, 2010 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 6: you talked about it on. 2011 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,759 Speaker 8: The podcast last week, so you can rewrap last week's episode. 2012 01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,360 Speaker 8: But I don't want to waste anymore can for those 2013 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,679 Speaker 8: times or yours or yours? 2014 01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:35,160 Speaker 9: No? 2015 01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 8: I said, Militant has to wear a mask for a 2016 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,080 Speaker 8: month if he if he loses to me, He's not 2017 01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:42,960 Speaker 8: gonna lose to me. That's the rub, is it? It's 2018 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 8: it's just straight boxing, straight boxing, three two minute rounds 2019 01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:48,120 Speaker 8: you can beat him. 2020 01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 6: He's a ground guy. Beat I beat any of it. 2021 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,320 Speaker 6: But anybody put my mind to I'm not trying, you know, 2022 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:54,519 Speaker 6: I'm not trying to go oh and what. 2023 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:54,840 Speaker 3: You know. 2024 01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,640 Speaker 6: It's like I'm not trying to go oh and one. 2025 01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,680 Speaker 6: We're trying to go one and oh? How old is 2026 01:28:59,240 --> 01:28:59,519 Speaker 6: right now? 2027 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,639 Speaker 8: I got a lot of options right now on the table, 2028 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,120 Speaker 8: So I don't want to exclusively focus on Patty right now. 2029 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,439 Speaker 8: I think he's about my age, maybe a little bit older, 2030 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 8: but uh. 2031 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 9: Fifty fifty. 2032 01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,080 Speaker 8: Hey, y'all want me to face someone younger? I mean all, 2033 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 8: I just need to be the underdog. I want to 2034 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,680 Speaker 8: be the betting underdog unless it's my twin brother, and 2035 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,680 Speaker 8: that's a pick and fight. And by the way, if 2036 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 8: my twin brother says I was meeting you this week, 2037 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,320 Speaker 8: this will be the last episode of the Ane Comploring 2038 01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 8: Pop podcast I host. He'll be stepping in next week 2039 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:26,599 Speaker 8: for episode two ninety. 2040 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,519 Speaker 6: You know, and that's it. You know, you've been fin 2041 01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 6: You're not You're not You're not being mean. He just 2042 01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,320 Speaker 6: like one beer before the show. I had a bad 2043 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 6: show early, and now everybody's. 2044 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 3: All over me. 2045 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,759 Speaker 6: I have a word. I think You've been fantastic. Thanks. 2046 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,919 Speaker 6: Cody's going to give it to me later by trafficking. 2047 01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,040 Speaker 6: He's going to edit the hell out of this. Everyone's 2048 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,040 Speaker 6: gonna be great. I hope not. 2049 01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 8: Next week we're going live in the stream Yard platform. 2050 01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:50,880 Speaker 8: But we got to let you go because Ken Flows, 2051 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,720 Speaker 8: you got to show to prep four. Hey, thank you, 2052 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:54,400 Speaker 8: love you. I we'll talk to you next week. 2053 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,640 Speaker 6: Appreciate it, guys. All right, that's it for the main 2054 01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,439 Speaker 6: event challenge, and that's it for the show. 2055 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 8: Remember the show is going head to head with the 2056 01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 8: NFL Draft on Thursday night, I believe on this channel, 2057 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,240 Speaker 8: So Cody, I love you, Jay love you. Well, I'll 2058 01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,040 Speaker 8: remember the name Muhammad. I'll be watching the NFL Draft. 2059 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,040 Speaker 8: But for you mixed Martial arts fans, you can watch 2060 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,760 Speaker 8: Remember the Show on this channel. I think they're not 2061 01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:18,320 Speaker 8: going Friday, maybe because they don't want to counter program 2062 01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:18,960 Speaker 8: Ken Flows. 2063 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:20,720 Speaker 6: So I don't know what's going on. 2064 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:22,840 Speaker 8: But if you want to watch Remember the Show, you 2065 01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,719 Speaker 8: can watch it Thursday. If you'd like merchandise andachlorin podcast 2066 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:26,320 Speaker 8: dot com. 2067 01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 6: Code AFT for. 2068 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:35,160 Speaker 8: Ten percent off, and we will be back next Monday 2069 01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 8: to recap pro Haska and Reyes and then of course 2070 01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,559 Speaker 8: get you fired up for course, sand Haagan and TJ. Dillashaw, 2071 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:42,920 Speaker 8: and I did talk to Jeff Novitski, by the way. 2072 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,360 Speaker 6: TJ. Dillashaw's past like twenty four drug tests by the 2073 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 6: way already since he came back. 2074 01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,000 Speaker 8: All right, well, hey, best of luck this weekend, my man. 2075 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,000 Speaker 8: I hope I didn't offend any young children. And we 2076 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,000 Speaker 8: will talk to you next Sunday or Monday. I think 2077 01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,760 Speaker 8: we're actually gonna do the show Sunday, so you get 2078 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,320 Speaker 8: it earlier next week. And thank you all for listening. 2079 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,000 Speaker 8: For Cody again, Phil, I'm John, Thank you' all. We'll 2080 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:05,639 Speaker 8: talk to you next week. 2081 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:35,559 Speaker 3: Until that feel it, I'm Royal Oaks. Next time. 2082 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,880 Speaker 1: On Too Many Lawyers, we take on a couple of 2083 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,479 Speaker 1: villains to sort out whether bad stuff is also illegal stuff. 2084 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,200 Speaker 1: George Santos want to seat in Congress by lying to voters. 2085 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 3: But is that a crime? 2086 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,719 Speaker 1: And Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews in England. 2087 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,040 Speaker 1: He go to jail for that here in America? Did 2088 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,839 Speaker 1: he commit a hate crime? Listen to Too Many Lawyers 2089 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,040 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get 2090 01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 1: your podcasts. 2091 01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:00,120 Speaker 9: Y