Speaker 1: What's our family?
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, this is a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't there are no words. Yeah, they've been
Speaker 1: up since four am. I think that's partially on. I
Speaker 1: was kind of thinking a lot about what we were
Speaker 1: going to talk about today, and partially the jet lag.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to say this is a special
Speaker 1: episode because that doesn't feel right either.
Speaker 2: This is a.
Speaker 1: Tribute to someone that we all love very much, and
Speaker 1: so I got up.
Speaker 2: I was super excited to be here. That's one of
Speaker 2: the saddest parts to me is that she was really
Speaker 2: looking forward to this, and she was actually really looking
Speaker 2: forward to watching the episodes with Rose. And one of
Speaker 2: the last times I was with her, we actually watched
Speaker 2: the first two episodes together like we were freaking teenagers again,
Speaker 2: and we sat in her office and watched the episodes
Speaker 2: together before we recorded this. And I've had a little
Speaker 2: bit of time to reflect on that, and everything worked out,
Speaker 2: and I think she did as much as she could
Speaker 2: in the time that she had, but we did think
Speaker 2: we had more time. And that's the really sad part is,
Speaker 2: you know, we had big, big plans for this year,
Speaker 2: and she didn't think she was going anywhere anytime soon,
Speaker 2: and that's you know, it sounds terribly cliche until it
Speaker 2: happens to you, but you always think you have more
Speaker 2: time and life changes on a dime. But I want
Speaker 2: everyone to know she was super happy to be here,
Speaker 2: and she was really happy to watch it again with
Speaker 2: fresh eyes, as she kept saying, and she became like
Speaker 2: a fan. She watched it like an audience member and
Speaker 2: was just I don't think anybody loved Charmed more than she.
Speaker 2: And that's a fact. And it's also a fact that
Speaker 2: she's probably laughing at all of us right now being
Speaker 2: super sad. I mean, there's a degree of sadness that
Speaker 2: she does want. She wants a proper amount of mourning
Speaker 2: and crying. But there's also some parts of it, like
Speaker 2: you know, Drew race back from Italy, and she's definitely
Speaker 2: laughing at him panicking and getting on a plane for
Speaker 2: her because that was her dream, that was her that
Speaker 2: was her goal, that was her dream life. She was
Speaker 2: her next trip was going to be to Italy, and
Speaker 2: she was considering moving to Italy, and Drew scrambled back
Speaker 2: from Italy and she was definitely laughing at you running
Speaker 2: through the airport. Ye yeah, I remember I.
Speaker 1: Called one of her best friends, and I told her.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm, you know, getting on a plane
Speaker 1: from Italy right now. She goes, you idiot's laughing at
Speaker 1: you right now? Why are you doing that? I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? It's too late? But yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: to kind of piggyback on what you just said, it's
Speaker 1: about time and shoot. Then I said this to you before,
Speaker 1: and I'll share this with I know out there as
Speaker 1: listening right now. Like Shannon's superpower, one of her many
Speaker 1: superpowers was this ability to make you forget that she
Speaker 1: was sick. She operated and acted in a way whenever
Speaker 1: we were traveling together, any phone call that we had,
Speaker 1: or meal at her house or anything that we did.
Speaker 1: It was there were times where I honestly forgot that
Speaker 1: she was sick. She has this incredible ability not to
Speaker 1: ever be a victim, and yeah, you forgot it. Like
Speaker 1: when you're in her presidency was she's not sick. She
Speaker 1: feels amazing, and she has all these incredible plans and
Speaker 1: we're traveling the world and we're talking about this and
Speaker 1: that and moving and building a new house in Tennessee
Speaker 1: and possibly going and building and living in Italy. Like
Speaker 1: she acted as if and her energy felt as if
Speaker 1: she was gonna she was going to be here for
Speaker 1: as long as we were.
Speaker 2: She was going to outlive us all, and there were
Speaker 2: many times I firmly believed that. So when things did
Speaker 2: take a turn, and it happened very quickly, it was
Speaker 2: very shocking, which sounds silly to say when someone has
Speaker 2: a terminal disease, but it's still very shocking. And it
Speaker 2: was very shocking to her. And you know, she just
Speaker 2: wanted to do so much more than her body was
Speaker 2: able to let her do. And I don't think I've
Speaker 2: ever met someone who had such an enthusiasm for life,
Speaker 2: because knows I do not. I'm fairly jaded. And she
Speaker 2: just wanted to do more and more things and see
Speaker 2: more and more places. And nobody throws a dinner party
Speaker 2: like Shannon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was reminded, you know, like you just said,
Speaker 3: as a shock, because she just carried herself like we
Speaker 3: were making plans for the rest of the year, for
Speaker 3: this podcast, for her life, and she was and I
Speaker 3: guess I was kind of thinking about today as well.
Speaker 3: And I think the one thing it struck me the
Speaker 3: most about Shannon over the years is there was never
Speaker 3: I can't or it can't be done, or it's impossible.
Speaker 3: It was always like, no, we're doing this, we're figuring
Speaker 3: this out. Let's get it done. And I don't know
Speaker 3: that I've ever met anybody that had such a clear
Speaker 3: picture of being able to attain and get what they
Speaker 3: wanted out of life and squeeze it all out. It's
Speaker 3: it's impressive.
Speaker 2: There was never even an I'm not sure about that,
Speaker 2: there's you know there when it came to anything, she
Speaker 2: knew everything was possible. And that's a testament, that's a
Speaker 2: testament to her spirit. And even faced with this terrible disease,
Speaker 2: you know, she took it on like a project that
Speaker 2: she was directing. She got her crew in place and
Speaker 2: the best possible people to do their jobs, and for
Speaker 2: a long time we just talked about it very logistically.
Speaker 2: She very rarely got emotional about it, maybe only a
Speaker 2: couple times in almost ten years. And there's just something
Speaker 2: to be said for her determination and her will to live,
Speaker 2: and you know, her love for this show that outweighs
Speaker 2: everybody else's and that's why this was so important to her.
Speaker 2: She wanted to enjoy it and appreciate it in the
Speaker 2: way everybody else did. And you know, I'm super happy
Speaker 2: that you guys got to spend time with her. You know,
Speaker 2: you guys, actually looking back on it now, you know,
Speaker 2: you guys got to spend a lot of time with her,
Speaker 2: like quality time in Kentucky and Tennessee and Rose and
Speaker 2: I in Scotland and Rose actually did her first con
Speaker 2: alone with Shannon and Houston and this year and you know,
Speaker 2: they actually went out to dinner alone together and I
Speaker 2: was like, it's never happened before, and they bonded in
Speaker 2: a way that they hadn't before and developed a relationship
Speaker 2: that was actually really deep and meaningful. And you know,
Speaker 2: Rose is pretty tore up. She's kind of been my
Speaker 2: grief counselor she's a really good grief counselor if anyone
Speaker 2: needs one. It's kind of like a skill of hers
Speaker 2: I've found. And she said to me, just you know,
Speaker 2: remember she's always beside you, and you have to live
Speaker 2: for her now. And I find myself sort of of course,
Speaker 2: very defensive. And you know, I've posted a million times
Speaker 2: on Instagram because I don't think that anyone knew or
Speaker 2: understood shan in't the way that three of us did,
Speaker 2: and I would have liked them to know. So if
Speaker 2: you're bothered by my Instagram posts, you can fuck off,
Speaker 2: because there's going to be some more.
Speaker 3: I think the general public didn't understand how lighthearted and
Speaker 3: fun and how appreciative of the little things of life
Speaker 3: Shannon might have been. I think she's always pushed into
Speaker 3: the media this tough, strong woman, and she was a
Speaker 3: mush when it came to her friends and some of
Speaker 3: the fans she met personally, and I don't know that
Speaker 3: the world got to see enough of that side of her,
Speaker 3: how genuine she could be.
Speaker 2: She was very quick to laughter, she was very quick
Speaker 2: to tears, and I don't think people even now still
Speaker 2: are comfortable with seeing a woman angry or sort of
Speaker 2: or getting loud. But when a guy does it, especially
Speaker 2: a famous guy, it's totally okay. It's actually enthralling. If
Speaker 2: a guy does it, they're like, oh wow, he's really
Speaker 2: passionate about his work. But if a woman does it,
Speaker 2: it's very unbecoming even now, So imagine what it was
Speaker 2: like twenty five thirty years ago.
Speaker 3: I remember coming to this set one of the first times,
Speaker 3: being so nervous, you know, to perform in front of Shannon,
Speaker 3: who I had met before the show, and then to
Speaker 3: come coming in, I just knew that, like, I better
Speaker 3: know my lines, do my thing, and step the fuck up.
Speaker 3: And you know, luckily I did it. It was like
Speaker 3: I got this stamp of approval in a way. It
Speaker 3: was like, all right, you just keep coming in and
Speaker 3: doing what you're doing, keep performing, keep doing your thing,
Speaker 3: and you'll be all right. I'm like okay, like okay,
Speaker 3: But you know, I guess it's a testament to the
Speaker 3: work ethic. And that didn't mean not have fun or
Speaker 3: not be a part of the family. It just you know,
Speaker 3: there was a work ethic. And she was proud of
Speaker 3: what she did and how she did it and how
Speaker 3: she put effort into it, and you know, you were
Speaker 3: struck to match that energy in a professional way.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I have to consider where she came from.
Speaker 2: You know, as a child, she worked with Wilford Brimley
Speaker 2: and Michael Landon and you couldn't get more you know,
Speaker 2: professional and dedicated than those two. And so she came
Speaker 2: from that background of you must be dedicated and committed
Speaker 2: to your work above all else, and especially as a
Speaker 2: child actor. That's like it's not just ingrained in you.
Speaker 2: It's seared upon you like a brand. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of one of the reasons I didn't want any of
Speaker 2: my kids to be in the business until they were
Speaker 2: eighteen and could have a normal childhood. So just her,
Speaker 2: you know, her dedication to what she did was above
Speaker 2: and beyond most and she just wanted to be there
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten percent. And that's what's hard about
Speaker 2: Charmed for me. But you know, through all of this
Speaker 2: and all of her illness, you know, what kept her
Speaker 2: motivated and kept her going was projects and work and
Speaker 2: looking forward to the future. She's still up until the
Speaker 2: last week. I don't think took a day off from
Speaker 2: trying to work on something, So I think there could
Speaker 2: have been a little bit more moderation there, but it's
Speaker 2: just who she was, and I do believe it kept
Speaker 2: her alive as long as it did, you know. And
Speaker 2: at the same time, you guys know, you know, even
Speaker 2: things like Finley's last birthday, she was just dedicated into
Speaker 2: making it something and we all got to be there
Speaker 2: and I'm glad he got to have that time with her.
Speaker 2: And you know, she was very cognizant. I think subconsciously,
Speaker 2: maybe that it was time to make some memories. But
Speaker 2: she was always like that, so it wasn't really any different.
Speaker 2: You know, every birthday was a big deal. When we
Speaker 2: spent Christmas together, which we did many when we were younger,
Speaker 2: but we actually did last year too, And I don't
Speaker 2: think she was doing it on purpose. I don't think
Speaker 2: it was just it was just happening. And then suddenly
Speaker 2: we got to spend another Christmas getting the tree and
Speaker 2: having ridiculous experiences, and she tried to spray paint the
Speaker 2: whole thing. She did.
Speaker 1: Ye, I saw that.
Speaker 2: I found the video of her frosting the outside of
Speaker 2: the windows, like she was like in the Macy's Day
Speaker 2: parade or something. I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: She's just frosting the windows in California just could have
Speaker 2: taken her to the snow. I mean, lord, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know if I've ever asked you this, but how
Speaker 1: did you meet her? Like, what was your first meeting
Speaker 1: with Shannon?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Was it at a party? Was it it was at
Speaker 1: a bar? It was at a bar.
Speaker 2: It was that the Formosa, the Foremosa, the famous formosa
Speaker 2: is famous formosa. Yeah, And we had mutual friends in
Speaker 2: common and my husband at the time knew her. And
Speaker 2: you know, the Formosa in those days was just it
Speaker 2: was every young actor, actress, starlett playground became a little
Speaker 2: too much of a playground for us. There was only
Speaker 2: one bar fight there, just one that may may not
Speaker 2: have been started by me. And that's the funny part
Speaker 2: is that everybody thought Shannon was the crazy one. She
Speaker 2: dis covered for me a lot. You know what's funny
Speaker 2: is she got she got caught because she's so recognizable.
Speaker 2: At the time, I was still nineteen, so the bar
Speaker 2: had to cover for me and say I wasn't there
Speaker 2: because I was underage.
Speaker 1: Tell us more.
Speaker 3: No, Formosa was infamous for allowing young teenagers into the bar.
Speaker 3: Your good buddy Bat was in there when he was
Speaker 3: Oh I'm.
Speaker 1: Sure I remember. I heard stories of Eric Danes showing
Speaker 1: up in a silk ascot to the foremost.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was there that night.
Speaker 1: So that's where you guys met. I never knew that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, was it love at first sight? I'm sure
Speaker 1: Razors just both like game recognizes game is what as
Speaker 1: they say, and then instant Kay, how about you, do
Speaker 1: you remember the first time you ever met Shammon? You know,
Speaker 1: it might it might have been in the Foremosta as well.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: I knew X and then I had actually lived with
Speaker 3: Dane back in the day during those Formosa days, so
Speaker 3: we would go there a lot.
Speaker 2: They sort of had the boys house that the girls
Speaker 2: would visit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a like Warfield and that whole crew as well.
Speaker 3: But a friend of mine was married or together with
Speaker 3: one of her girlfriends and kind of friends with you guys.
Speaker 2: They weren't married yet. Jason was with.
Speaker 3: Charlie, right, and so that kind of brought us in.
Speaker 3: But that was that was later on. Maybe it was
Speaker 3: like a trader maybe it was a trader vis But.
Speaker 2: Then we would have barbecues. And that's how I met
Speaker 2: your wife before the show, because I was friends with
Speaker 2: Charlie and Rexanna and yeah, and then Shannon and I
Speaker 2: became inseparable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, game recognizes game. I could see it immediately, you
Speaker 1: two just seeing each other from across the bar and go,
Speaker 1: we're going to be friends. Shots. And this is way
Speaker 1: before Arctic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably five years before nineties. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean we just we were so content in each
Speaker 2: other's company. I mean we would go on road trips
Speaker 2: with just us in two dolls. We would play darts
Speaker 2: for hours in a bar bar ourselves and we didn't
Speaker 2: want to talk to anybody else.
Speaker 1: We would flag flag just two girls killing it on
Speaker 1: the dark board, you see that, or you see two
Speaker 1: girls like mopping it up on the pool table.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Run.
Speaker 2: We were competitive, and not necessarily against each other, but
Speaker 2: we were competitive with ourselves, and we wanted to know
Speaker 2: how to do these things. So clearly you have to
Speaker 2: spend time doing them. So I think after a while,
Speaker 2: we got a dartboard that we put in her garage.
Speaker 2: We got the whole electric situation that was in her garage. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, And we went on these road trips all
Speaker 2: the time. My mom just reminded me. We drove eighteen
Speaker 2: hours straight to see my mom staying at the County
Speaker 2: Fair in Montana in Bozeman, and we got there. We
Speaker 2: got there just as she was going on stage, and
Speaker 2: my mom said, she remembered, the whole crowd just turned
Speaker 2: away from the skate this stage and looked towards Shannon
Speaker 2: because I wasn't I wasn't recognizable at that point, thankfully,
Speaker 2: and all they were looking at was Brenda at the
Speaker 2: County Fair in Bozeman, and my mom was like, she goes,
Speaker 2: it was really great because I sucked, so it actually
Speaker 2: took some of the heat off of her.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of Brenda, I recently revealed I think it
Speaker 1: was in when we were all in Lexington just how
Speaker 1: deep my love for Shannon actually so, I think one
Speaker 1: of my first childhood crushes. Well, the show that I
Speaker 1: was obsessed with more than anything, which was part of
Speaker 1: the reason why I became an actor was Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: nine too, And my, oh my, did I love Brenda
Speaker 1: Walsh so much? Like and I don't think i'd ever
Speaker 1: told Shannon that until we were on stage like ten
Speaker 1: years later at Lexington. I was like, well, Brenda was
Speaker 1: actually one of my first crushes, so to then meet her,
Speaker 1: I think the first time we ever met was in
Speaker 1: Paris in like twenty and twelve, the year of the
Speaker 1: Power Louver. Shannon liked to go on these little like
Speaker 1: greatest hits to hit a museum, but like do it
Speaker 1: in twenty to thirty minutes, like that's this, that's that,
Speaker 1: and Okay, we're moving, we're walking, and that's the other one.
Speaker 1: All right, we're leaving. Does anyone else want to see
Speaker 1: anything good, we're.
Speaker 2: Gone, and ya will spend two to three days in
Speaker 2: the same area.
Speaker 1: So to see the louver through her her throat. It
Speaker 1: was very efficient tour. But like, I just remember walking
Speaker 1: into the green room for the first time in Paris
Speaker 1: and seeing like this woman that had the biggest crush
Speaker 1: on ever, and then we hit it off immediately, and
Speaker 1: you know, I instantly was just like high fiving the
Speaker 1: thirteen year old in me, like, oh my god, you're
Speaker 1: hanging out with Brenda and she's so cool. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a.
Speaker 2: And then you had to tell her that you made
Speaker 2: out with Donna.
Speaker 1: Oh yes you did.
Speaker 2: Sorry kid, but you did. And now Tory knows and
Speaker 2: remembers that you did. She didn't remember you.
Speaker 1: I remember this, She doesn't know. You're not spreading this
Speaker 1: is very uh Jesus, she does now I was seventeen.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, there's a lot of there's you know what, the
Speaker 1: reoccurring theme we're hearing right now is underage children in
Speaker 1: bars that should not be allowed in bars in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I think you might have been a bar fight in
Speaker 2: Montana too, but I think that was your mom's fault.
Speaker 2: It was fault. My mom was not a good combination
Speaker 2: or good influence honus. For instance, there was literally like
Speaker 2: there was a group of girls that was giving her
Speaker 2: a hard time at the Jack in the Box in
Speaker 2: La unlike PCH because probably not so unknown fact, Shannon's
Speaker 2: favorite fast food was Jack in the Box. And I
Speaker 2: don't know how somebody can spend thirty bucks there, but
Speaker 2: she can and did many a time. And say, there
Speaker 2: was some girls giving her a hard time and we
Speaker 2: were driving down PCH and they were kind of in
Speaker 2: the car next to us, and my mom was like,
Speaker 2: speed up. She was in the backseat and my mother
Speaker 2: was not to be trusted to her milkshake and just
Speaker 2: threw it at the car. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: you guys are not hanging out anymore. That's it cutting
Speaker 2: the cord. She was a good shot at that time,
Speaker 2: all over and she got it in the window.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. Yeah, I did not know that story. Also,
Speaker 1: I didn't know Jack in the Box. That's also my
Speaker 1: favorite fast food.
Speaker 2: Good to know.
Speaker 1: Two tacos and a breakfast Jack was my order when
Speaker 1: I was a fat kid. And then I'd get hash
Speaker 1: browns and then I'd put the hash brown inside the
Speaker 1: breakfast Jack put those tacos. That's real meat in there,
Speaker 1: but man, delicious, they're almost vegetarian. Put it that way
Speaker 1: exactly right.
Speaker 3: So I'd pull the lettuce out and just add hot sauce.
Speaker 1: But it has that hot sauce in there, that crispy.
Speaker 2: Yes, I have to well, I have to tell you guys,
Speaker 2: so beneficial family fact. Finley's girlfriend, his her dad, and
Speaker 2: his brother own like forty two Jack in the boxes.
Speaker 2: So free tacos for life. Oh man, I'm arranging the
Speaker 2: wedding now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can we get a taco pass?
Speaker 3: Like every time you go through the drive through?
Speaker 1: You just got like a companion card when you're flying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't like you just wave it, stop it.
Speaker 2: They haven't.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he call me coming when we're done.
Speaker 2: Shannon looked at Kaylin was like, hey, I like you,
Speaker 2: how you doing?
Speaker 4: Come on in?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so good Jack in the box tacos.
Speaker 2: He's going to kill me.
Speaker 1: I'm going to kill you. I can't believe.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: You know it was on that same trip and I
Speaker 3: think it was twenty twelve. I had brought my father
Speaker 3: with me, and I think Rosa came with Shannon. Yes,
Speaker 3: and it was right after my mom had passed and
Speaker 3: I was kind of trying to get my dad back
Speaker 3: out into the world. Then it was kind of the
Speaker 3: trip to get him going. And I'll never forget how
Speaker 3: Shannon kind of took. They kind of hit it off
Speaker 3: as well, her my dad and and she planned like
Speaker 3: a whole day and we went to Versailles, and it
Speaker 3: was it was almost like a double date. I d
Speaker 3: but she she said, we're taking your dad and my
Speaker 3: mom and we're going to her side. And she rented
Speaker 3: this car and it was like she wanted to help
Speaker 3: me help my dad, and my dad fell in love
Speaker 3: with her right there. She was so gracious with her
Speaker 3: time and uh, you know, to do that and help
Speaker 3: the situation was, you know something I'll never forget.
Speaker 5: And and.
Speaker 3: You know, didn't have one of those things you didn't
Speaker 3: have to do, and and there was we didn't have
Speaker 3: a friendship before that. They would have said, oh, this
Speaker 3: is my best friendship and let's you know whatever, and
Speaker 3: she just kind of went out of her way and
Speaker 3: made it happen.
Speaker 1: And well, that's the.
Speaker 2: Thing I think people understand is if she accepted you
Speaker 2: as part of her inner circle, she was incredibly loyal,
Speaker 2: and if you had just had some authentic moments with
Speaker 2: her in the past and doing the show, you were
Speaker 2: already there in her mind. You were already you were
Speaker 2: already a close friend.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and I'm thinking about her taste too.
Speaker 1: Just I don't know if everyone knows this, but she
Speaker 1: has impeccable taste in cars, in clothing, and art, yeah,
Speaker 1: in beds.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, she's one of the best, you know,
Speaker 2: interior designers I've ever met. Like, I don't know how
Speaker 2: she does it. She'll purposely make something crooked and make
Speaker 2: it look right, drive some nuts.
Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, and this is from this angle. This
Speaker 1: is like you walk in and you see this and
Speaker 1: that's like exactly what it's supposed to be. And you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that is exactly how it's supposed to be. I
Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't. Yeah, it just was effortless. She
Speaker 1: loved her house and she did it perfectly, and she
Speaker 1: loved her dog.
Speaker 2: More than anything any living being. I'm so worried for
Speaker 2: Bowie right now because I've never seen a dog so devoted,
Speaker 2: like obsessively devoted to her human being as that dog.
Speaker 4: Was to Shannon, I am.
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent, but I think.
Speaker 2: That is a good happy man.
Speaker 1: Like his love language is constant contact. He's so he's
Speaker 1: heard about the relationship with Shannon and Bowie and he goes, we.
Speaker 2: Were lucky enough to come up in the days right
Speaker 2: before TMZ and before camera phones, so TMZ was just
Speaker 2: becoming a thing when we were still going out, and
Speaker 2: then we started to go out a lot less and
Speaker 2: they were just ruthless with her. I mean, they knew
Speaker 2: what to say to her. They would say something about Roger,
Speaker 2: her friend at the time, who was still one of
Speaker 2: her best friends, and they would say stuff about her
Speaker 2: mom or stuff about rob like they would go her
Speaker 2: into acting out, and you know, Seam Penn got away
Speaker 2: with it all the time, but all ninety pounds of
Speaker 2: Shannon was something to talk about. And they were really awful.
Speaker 2: They were ruthless. I mean there were many times we
Speaker 2: couldn't go out anywhere without you know, being followed, and
Speaker 2: she felt so hunked up and she felt so vilified
Speaker 2: that she started to hide. And you know, you can
Speaker 2: see a lot of paparazzi shots, you know, from when
Speaker 2: we were younger, from twenty years ago where she would
Speaker 2: be hiding her face and I'd just be like, fuck it,
Speaker 2: like you can't let these people make you feel hunted,
Speaker 2: and she very much so did. And I think seeing
Speaker 2: the outpouring of love and everyone who sent messages about
Speaker 2: her and my phone didn't stop and still hasn't stopped.
Speaker 2: And I think she had no idea how literally beloved
Speaker 2: she was and is and revered and respected, and so
Speaker 2: many people who did. There are so many people who
Speaker 2: had a blast working with her, then there are people
Speaker 2: who have complaints. And I don't think she had any
Speaker 2: idea because she always felt like she had to defend
Speaker 2: herself and she always felt someone was going to attack her.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the very bittersweet things about this
Speaker 2: is that she just had no idea how loved she
Speaker 2: actually was. And even my mom said, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: getting messages from animal outreach activists that are just saying,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry for your loss. She just had no idea.
Speaker 2: And you know, one of the things she said to
Speaker 2: me in Tennessee is I just don't want to be
Speaker 2: remembered as you know, the actress who had cancer, because
Speaker 2: what was really important to her was the animal activism,
Speaker 2: and you know, she was trying to establish a sanctuary
Speaker 2: for wild horses, and she was trying to establish a
Speaker 2: foundation with me where you know, we had always fundraise
Speaker 2: for these other organizations, but we wanted to do more
Speaker 2: and we wanted it to be more direct action. And
Speaker 2: that was the stuff that was really important to her.
Speaker 2: It was that an environmental and her family and friends.
Speaker 2: As much as she loved acting and she loved being
Speaker 2: creative and she loved she loved her craft, she wanted
Speaker 2: to be remembered as something more than that. And she
Speaker 2: also really took on the role of reaching out to
Speaker 2: other people who were going through treatment. And she never
Speaker 2: hit it, you know, she bravely went through it hit
Speaker 2: on like most things in her life. And I'm just
Speaker 2: sad she didn't get to know.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, when she started going on
Speaker 1: doing cons more often and seeing the impact and the
Speaker 1: length the lines and people coming up to her and right,
Speaker 1: you know, what people don't see after is when you
Speaker 1: leave that area and you're back in the green room
Speaker 1: or later back in the hotel and out at dinner,
Speaker 1: and just how much the impact, the positive impact from
Speaker 1: connecting with all these people really had it has on
Speaker 1: all of us, but really had on her. Like she
Speaker 1: was so emotionally, I think, surprised but also fulfilled by
Speaker 1: all these people who came up and were just in
Speaker 1: awe of her and how she has handled everything in
Speaker 1: her life and how she took cancer head on. Truly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to remind her, like not to hug people.
Speaker 2: I was like, you're immunocompromised, Like you don't have to
Speaker 2: come out from behind the table and hug everyone and
Speaker 2: shake hands and then hug and then cry. And you know,
Speaker 2: she just and she would ignore me and just go
Speaker 2: out the next day and do it again. She was
Speaker 2: not going to live life in a way that compromised
Speaker 2: her beliefs, and you can't say that about a lot
Speaker 2: of people. So I mean, I'll figure out one day
Speaker 2: how to do that sanctuary and foundation for her. And
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the best things I could
Speaker 2: do for her. Absolutely, I'm producing a documentary about seal
Speaker 2: Pups up here, and she wanted to be a part
Speaker 2: of it. So we're just going to add her name
Speaker 2: because I know I already know what she would have
Speaker 2: directed me to do.
Speaker 1: Another take.
Speaker 2: Definitely take go, get the drone, go get the Cream
Speaker 2: the crane.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: God, she the directing, it's great.
Speaker 2: So wait till you see in the episode she directed.
Speaker 1: I got a glimpse of it when she was telling
Speaker 1: Bkah in one of the episodes that we were so
Speaker 1: fortunate to tape, was Bka, you gotta let's get it again?
Speaker 1: For the synopsis. Yeah, yeah, I can only imagine like
Speaker 1: actually on set like, hey, that was good, but you
Speaker 1: can do better. Let's go again, And you're like the god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I saw pieces of the Western episode
Speaker 2: that she directed. Just wait till your Western episode. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a Western, of course there is. There's that involved
Speaker 2: that has to be.
Speaker 1: It has to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did get through a rodeo phase too, so
Speaker 2: that's where that came from. That's a story for another time.
Speaker 2: It's funny. I was talking to Rose the other day
Speaker 2: and she was like, it makes me so happy to
Speaker 2: hear her laugh. And I never realized how awkward her
Speaker 2: laugh kind of is for such a pretty person. She
Speaker 2: has this really honkin sort of duck like laugh, and
Speaker 2: I was like, my goodness, and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: I've had one of my other really close friends pass
Speaker 2: away from cancer. And I remember struggling so hard with
Speaker 2: trying to remember how her voice sound and how she laughed,
Speaker 2: and thankfully with Shannon, I can't watch stuff right now,
Speaker 2: and I know there's an episode of this show I
Speaker 2: can't ever watch again. But we're left with all of
Speaker 2: this film and video and sound from her that I
Speaker 2: know if I ever really need to be close to
Speaker 2: her again, I can not like she's ever going to
Speaker 2: leave me. It's basically like a voice right here all
Speaker 2: the time, and this show was definitely a part of
Speaker 2: her heart. Speaking of a part of her heart. Come
Speaker 2: say hello to the boys.
Speaker 1: Who do we got?
Speaker 2: Come show Uncle Drew your new tattoo?
Speaker 4: Do you want to get new tattoos?
Speaker 2: Nobody likes it when you get new tattoos?
Speaker 1: I do, What did you get?
Speaker 5: I uh was riding back on the bus from base
Speaker 5: with a couple of my guys when Mom called me
Speaker 5: and told me what happened.
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 4: We got released at like three or four, and then
Speaker 4: I just called my guy.
Speaker 2: I was like, are you in? He was like yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like okay, and then we sat down and
Speaker 4: he was like, this.
Speaker 5: Guy's completely covered head to toe up to his teeth
Speaker 5: and tattoos and bawling the whole time he did it.
Speaker 5: But I texted him. I was like, yeah, I just
Speaker 5: I want to do the breast cancer ribbon, but let's
Speaker 5: do it in a way where it doesn't look like
Speaker 5: everybody else.
Speaker 4: Listen. He was like, yeah, I guess. So we sat
Speaker 4: there for a little bit and he pulled this out and.
Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, that's someone and he just didn't
Speaker 6: talk for like a good our and a half and
Speaker 6: I was like, right, I didn't start.
Speaker 4: Crying, so it was done.
Speaker 1: It's really beautiful and it's an incredible way to honor her.
Speaker 4: I'll text you there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Thanks, that's dude for sharing.
Speaker 2: Nobody could make Shannon laugh harder than Finlay, especially when
Speaker 2: he was a child and she was teaching him to
Speaker 2: say bad words. So letting Shanny Shannon babysit was always
Speaker 2: a dicey situation because there she dropped you. At least once,
Speaker 2: she let him fall off the bench at the Malibu
Speaker 2: Park and all the paparazzi caught it. It's on it's
Speaker 2: on tape somewhere. And then she picked you up and
Speaker 2: you were laughing and she was laughing, and I was like,
Speaker 2: great brain, damage all around. And that's when he looked
Speaker 2: up and he was like look and there was a
Speaker 2: flock of birds and he went, fuck of birds. And Shannon,
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you made him say that for three
Speaker 2: days straight, fucker birds, fucker birds. And I was like,
Speaker 2: can you correct him? And she was like no, it's
Speaker 2: too funny. I was like, you're fired. It's so good
Speaker 2: your babysitting days are numbered.
Speaker 1: It's a really beautiful tribute that he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that. I know we
Speaker 2: all talked about getting age of h tattoos at one point,
Speaker 2: but I think what I'm going to do is get
Speaker 2: the time that she transitioned, because that's my big gripe
Speaker 2: with this whole situation is that we both thought that
Speaker 2: we had more time and so many plans, and I
Speaker 2: hope I can carry out some of those for her.
Speaker 2: I know you will, well she knows I will. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure, but she very certain. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: get on it already.
Speaker 1: Yeah for real, Like it's Friday enough enough Friday, Okay,
Speaker 1: Like you said, how we started this thing, like definitely
Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, grieve and mourn and
Speaker 1: when we see the tears, like let it be real,
Speaker 1: but also like.
Speaker 4: Let's go yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why we're here today. You know, at first,
Speaker 2: at first I had told iHeart, I was like, not
Speaker 2: this week, not this week. And I literally heard her going,
Speaker 2: get up, make the meatballs for the kids, go out,
Speaker 2: take the kids to the beach, and get back to work,
Speaker 2: because that's what she would want us to do. And
Speaker 2: she set it up in a way that we were supposed.
Speaker 1: To and that's how she always approached everything as well.
Speaker 1: She took that moment and then all right, let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, she knew I would take any reason
Speaker 2: to sort of disappear, and she made sure that I
Speaker 2: couldn't that. I want to talk about Nashville.
Speaker 3: In Nashville, Oh my gosh, it almost happened.
Speaker 1: I almost.
Speaker 3: Seventeen year old Drew's fantasies almost happened for me.
Speaker 1: K almost. I actually to hear this.
Speaker 2: I actually, I will tell you that Shannon said that
Speaker 2: never happened. It never actually almost happened. She was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 3: I mean, there was eye contact and.
Speaker 2: The moment.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to let you forget that it was.
Speaker 3: It was working its way towards something that Holly didn't
Speaker 3: want to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see you blame me for interrupting it.
Speaker 1: For eye contact.
Speaker 3: I think it's thank goodness it didn't happen. I was
Speaker 3: just looking for the art board, yeah you, or the
Speaker 3: cool table to hustle some I think in it all
Speaker 3: and the shock of it all, you know, I we
Speaker 3: never got a chance really to thank Shannon for getting
Speaker 3: us all here and getting us to heart and having
Speaker 3: our backs and helping us take this to the next level.
Speaker 3: And it's it's kind of a bummer that she was
Speaker 3: just taking care of her people. We didn't get to
Speaker 3: celebrate it with her and really show her the grace
Speaker 3: that we all feel.
Speaker 2: And it just it's not fair, but she would be
Speaker 2: the first one to tell you that life is not fair.
Speaker 3: We carry on you guys, love you, and if I
Speaker 3: can be here at all for either one of you, please,
Speaker 3: my phone's always on.
Speaker 2: You were my first phone call, and Drew you were
Speaker 2: my second. And I dare say Rose was actually the
Speaker 2: most upset and as revealing as that was, I'm really
Speaker 2: glad they got to know each other and I'm really
Speaker 2: thankful for that connection.
Speaker 1: And I'm positive that we all will continue to honor
Speaker 1: her with what we do, how we live with that
Speaker 1: passion that she shows, that showed m.
Speaker 2: And definitely do another take.
Speaker 3: Definitely do another take, especially b K, I like getting
Speaker 3: in one. I think she liked it when I got
Speaker 3: it in one.
Speaker 1: No, I think, dude, I'm sorry, Like I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you right now, she did not like got anyone.
Speaker 2: Depth, my friend.
Speaker 3: I always need options in the editing room.
Speaker 2: Options.
Speaker 1: I always need options.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, she's definitely laughing at us and telling us
Speaker 2: to wrap it up now. Yeah, right, Jesus, keep it together, people.
Speaker 2: We're in a schedule, we really are.
Speaker 1: It's just got to keep keep it going. Well, thank
Speaker 1: you all for listening, thank you for being the most incredible, loving,
Speaker 1: supportive family that we could ever hope to have. And
Speaker 1: reading the d ms and all the tributes. It's really
Speaker 1: it's been the most amazing, heartwarming feeling so supported and
Speaker 1: loved by each and every one of you. So you know,
Speaker 1: Charmed as a fan, Charmed is our legacy, and I can.
Speaker 2: Honestly say she loved Charmed more than anyone, and she
Speaker 2: appreciates you guys more than anyone.
Speaker 4: That's all, folks,